Mason tends to save best when called upon most

OK gang, I have a trivia question for you. Without looking it up, tell me how many seasons have the Atlanta Thrashers finished with a 30.0 SA/G or less since the lockout?

I know, I know…most of you in the Thrasherville blogosphere can respond correctly in about 0.27 seconds…but for those of you that haven’t come up the answer yet, let me help you out. Hold up the total number of fingers that you normal display after you’ve been cut off in traffic. Now, take that finger down.

What you’re left with is the answer today’s quiz. Zero…none…zilch…nada…goose egg.

In fact, there has been exactly one time in the Thrashers’ history in which they have had a sub-30 SA/G for an entire NHL campaign. That came in 2003-04, the last season prior to the work stoppage, when they allowed an average of 29.4 SA/G.

Yes, historically the Thrashers give up a lot of shots.

For this reason, most fans in Thrasherville underline the need for a strong presence in goal. When news broke of the Chris Mason signing, most voiced their approval… even if it was coupled with a statement like, “But let’s see how he holds up when force to endure all the shots he’s gonna have to face”.

That’s not an unfair observation to make given the workout a Thrashers goaltenders can expect to get on any given night. As I like to quip, goalies in Atlanta tend to take more rubber to the face then a possum on a Georgia county road…they see more shots up around the eyes then an aging hollywood starlet. 

But let’s see if history can be a guide when it comes to forecasting how Mason might hold up in what has proven to be in the past a very busy Thrashers goal. For this exercise, I’m gonna set the bar at 33 shots…roughly the average SA/G the Thrashers have allowed in the five seasons since the lockout.

Mason has played in 63 regular season games in which the skaters in front of him let 33 or more shots get through on goal. His record in those games is an impressive 38-16-9 with a .931 SV% and 2.50 GAA. Seven of those games were shutout victories, including a 47-save gem over Nashville in November of 2008 while playing for the Blues. After turning aside every shot he faced over 65 minutes of play, he then denied both shootout attempts by the Preds…including one by Rich Peverley…to procure the 1-0 victory.

Last season with the St. Louis Blues Mason was 10-3-4 in such games with a .933 SV% and 2.51 GAA. Four seasons ago while with Nashville, he compiled a record of 16-3-1 with a .940 SV% and 2.18 GAA when face with 33+ SOG.

In comparison, his counterpart Ondrej Pavelec…whom hildymac of BWA has recently posted a very thoughtful blog about…hasn’t faired quite as well as his new teammate. Opie is 11-13-5 with a .912 SV% and 3.48 GAA when he’s faces more than 32 shots in a game.

As I always like to point out, past performance does not necessarily guarantee future returns. Plus when discussing the stats of goaltenders, one has to take into consideration where the shots are coming from, rebound control and other factors. But having a man between the pipes who seemingly thrives when forced to face so many shots can only be a benefit the team.

Also it’s worth noting that, unless and until there is another trade or signing, the current Thrashers blueline closely resembles that of one that finished off last season…minus one Pavel Kubina and plus one Brent Sopel. Certainly there is the hope and expectation that Craig Ramsay and his coaching staff can successfully address the SA/G problem that has plagued the Thrashers for so long. But I think it’s a stretch to assume this current crop of defenseman can tuck that number under 30 this coming season.

And if the numbers of the past do prove to be an accurate indicator of what’s to come, then Rick Dudley’s decision to bring in Chris Mason will look all the much better given his ability to perform at his best when he’s called upon the most.

115 comments Add your comment

Smoothie

July 26th, 2010
12:30 pm

Let’s hope Rammer can help teach the boys better D so they keep the shots down around 30 / game if not lower. If nothing else, Ramsay has proven he can get a team to drastically alter their style of play both in Tampa and then again in Boston. Look at Boston’s stats the year before Rammer was brought in and you see, well, you see the Thrashers!

GaVaHokie

July 26th, 2010
12:44 pm

Great research Tiller!!

localmouse

July 26th, 2010
12:47 pm

For the record, Pavelec’s write up on BWA was penned by hildymac, not falconer. They’re both good, however.

Rawhide

July 26th, 2010
12:52 pm

localmouse – Ouch! yes…you’re correct, my error. I’ll fix the post accordingly.

Apologies to my good friend hildymac

mrhockey

July 26th, 2010
12:53 pm

Buzzeng

July 26th, 2010
1:00 pm

I seem to recall the beginning of last season, when we were off to a pretty good start despite a lopsided SA/G metric. There was a lot of debate about whether or not to worry about it, and several said that only the win-loss counts. I can’t help feeling that the SA/G finally caught up to us and eventually kept us out of the playoffs. Hopefully, a boost in the net with a stiffer D will compensate this year. Now…if we could only address the GPD…

Brendan

July 26th, 2010
1:01 pm

Rawhide, we’ve talked about GA before. And certainly Shots Against has a correlation to GA. I was a bit ’shocked’ to learn last year’s GA was 256. While the reaction by someone reading this comment outside of Thrasherville might be, “Wilikers, Batman! That’s awful!,” it’s something like 3rd best in franchise history. I’m so used to us being upwards of 280, I had initially hoped we’d get GA down to 250 this year. But now, 250 from 256 doesn’t look like much of a goal to set for oneself. I have revised the ‘wishful thinking’ figure to 226.

If Ramsay and his assistant coaches can get a team defense concept in place for Atlanta, perhaps 230 really is in sight? And if so, this team becomes viable for the playoffs. Pavelec is just 22, and will only get better in net. And if he has meltdowns, Chris Mason should be expected to carry the load.

My wish is 237 GF with 226 GA for this upcoming season. If we get there, noticeable achievement would have occurred.

Dwayne

July 26th, 2010
1:13 pm

74 days till the puck drops for real!!!

hip czech

July 26th, 2010
1:18 pm

Good read here – http://www.fanfeedr.com/nhl/2010/07/26/goal-differential-what-the-non-playoff-teams-must-do on goal differential.

If the above numbers are correct (the +42 difference between last year and this year) then you need to tweak you wish a little bit Brendan…237/226 would only yield a +33.

So how about 240/220…

Brendan

July 26th, 2010
1:24 pm

Hip Czech, your link suggests a +20 differential is what is needed, in terms of a line of demarcation. So, I’ll revise to 246 GF and 226 goals against. But how are we gonna score 246 goals, without Kovalchuk, or three players who’ll replace Kovalchuk’s numbers. We’d have to get a Frolov in here. And if the Kovalchuk contract holds in NJ, maybe show some interest in Zajac in a trade. The Devils will have some cap issues still left to resolve, moving forward.

Joe Friday

July 26th, 2010
1:36 pm

“I think it’s a stretch to assume this current crop of defenseman can tuck that number under 30 this coming season.”

It’s beyond a stretch, it just ain’t gonna happen unless we bring someone else in. Kubina out and Sopel in weakened our D (but saved money). Mason in and Moose out is a push (meaning Mason will give us similar play to Moose’s last year, which was decent). The changes at forward are going to cost us goals, so I don’t see us a playoff club right now. Coaching did improve, but this lineup is a not a threat right now. Let’s pray that there’s more moves to be made once they know what Ladd’s bill is going to be (is that tomorrow?).

Rawhide

July 26th, 2010
1:46 pm

Meanwhile, on “As The Kovalchuk Turns”….

The National Hockey League Players’ Association (NHLPA) released the following statement today:

“The NHLPA has filed a grievance disputing the NHL’s rejection of the Standard Player Contract between the New Jersey Devils and Ilya Kovalchuk. Under the terms of the CBA, the NHLPA and Mr. Kovalchuk are entitled to an expedited resolution of this matter. The NHLPA will have no further comment until this matter has been resolved by an Arbitrator.”

Joe Friday

July 26th, 2010
1:54 pm

Rawhide, it’s a no brainer that the arbitrator will rule in Kovy’s favor, the league has no leg to stand on rejecting that contract given that they approved, Hossa’s, Luongo’s et al, given that Chelios just played at 48 yrs old and Recchi will play this year at 43, and given that there’s no specific language in the CBA to prevent the contract. He’ll be a Devil this year and probably with that contract as it stands.

hip czech

July 26th, 2010
1:54 pm

Zajac would be a nice pickup…another player I’d love to see here is Tomas Fleischmann, has an arbitration date with the Caps coming up.

Somehow I think Dudley gets another forward here. The Bruins, Devils (if Kovalchuk does eventually wind up there), and Blackhawks (still) are going to have to move some pieces.

I disagree that Mason and Moose are a wash…as good a year as Moose had last year I still think Mason will be better.

glovesave29

July 26th, 2010
2:02 pm

Opie is out of control…flopping about and overcommitting as he comes across. Because of that, many second shots are coming from the danger areas as Pavalec does anything he can to stop the initial shot. A goalie who is calm and quiet can control the rebound and send the puck into the corner…thus fewer shots against. The style of the goalie need not matter, as long as the fundamentals are there…Hasek’s flopping, Brodeur’s classic style or Roy’s butterfly – when the save was made, the goalie was squared and prepared. Think of it like a baseball hitter…there are hundreds of different swings in MLB – some hold the bat high, different stance, have a trigger, etc – but as they swing through the zone, the swings pretty much similar. Same for goalies. A panicky netminder like Pavalec can often create his own disasters. The skills are there – let’s see how he matures.

St. Louis – not St. Luis…cmon Bill!

glovesave29

July 26th, 2010
2:08 pm

JF – I disagree. I can see the arbitrator going either way…but the spirit of the CBA was definately violated, and that language IS in the CBA. You cannot puposely try to subjugate the cap. With 98% of the payment in the first 67% of the contract – and with the cap hit at times is $5.5M less than the actualy salary…then yes, the spirit of the agreement is being violated. No other contract is so front loaded or has such a large discrepancy in the hit vs. salary. Plus, the buyout for the contract over the final 7 seasons can cost NJ just $50k for 14 years to buy him out. My guess is the arbitrator will either shorten the contract of increase the payments in the final seasons. Either way, the cap hit goes up and I see NJ walking away.

kracker

July 26th, 2010
2:35 pm

The other end of the ice is just as important in reducing our SA/G average. Maintaining control of the puck through the neutral zone and in the attacking zone would go a long way toward making our defense look really good. How many times have we seen the opposing goalie face 5 shots or less 3/4 of the way through a period? Frequently it’s the first period.

Dumping all the blame on our defensive corps completely ignores our yearly inability to ice a decent forechecking group that can run the cycle, pass in the zone, etc….which yes, does necessarily also include good play by the defensemen on ice for that shift.

Rawhide

July 26th, 2010
2:44 pm

I seem to recall the beginning of last season, when we were off to a pretty good start despite a lopsided SA/G metric. There was a lot of debate about whether or not to worry about it, and several said that only the win-loss counts.

Buzzeng - You remember correctly. In fact, I believe it was our good friend Joe Friday, (then “Bob”), who was among the first to sound the alarm bell that the SA/G problem would eventually bit us in the butt-ox.

Mason in and Moose out is a push (meaning Mason will give us similar play to Moose’s last year, which was decent).

JF – I’m gonna side with the arguement that this was an upgrade, (keep in mind this is coming from a huge Hedberg fan). I think the consistent overall number back that up. We’ll find out soon enough once the season gets into full swing.

A panicky netminder like Pavalec can often create his own disasters. The skills are there – let’s see how he matures.

GS29 – You and I agree when it comes to Pavelec. All the natural talent in the world, but….

He’s still got age on his side and plenty of time to “mature” into the role. crossing fingers

The other end of the ice is just as important in reducing our SA/G average. Maintaining control of the puck through the neutral zone and in the attacking zone would go a long way toward making our defense look really good

kracker - Spot on.

Great research Tiller!!

gavahokie – awwwwxxx shux…’twernt nuthin’.

Smoothie

July 26th, 2010
3:09 pm

Mason > Moose…no contest. I love Moose, but c’mon.

Problem is the number of times our goalies have to face 35-45 shots. A lot of goalies are better when they face a lot of rubber. But a lot more goalies wear down more quickly if they face so much rubber on a consistent basis.

Just for point of reference, last season our average shots against was just a hair over 33 at 33.02 when adjusted to take out EN goals. If this number can just be reduced down to 30 / game over 82 games, that is 240-250 fewer shots. The league avg for SV % seems to be around .910 sooooo, then we can expect a reduction of 20-25 goals.

To kracker’s point, it’s more about the team playing better as a whole and doing what it takes to limit second-chance opportunities or shots to begin with. More puck possession and fewer turnovers = fewer shots on our goalie. But there is no doubt in my mind that we are better between the pipes now than the end of last season. No offense to Moose.

Joe Friday

July 26th, 2010
3:19 pm

“In fact, I believe it was our good friend Joe Friday, (then “Bob”), who was among the first to sound the alarm bell that the SA/G problem would eventually bit us in the butt-ox.”

Yep many years of hockey have shown me that 10 or 20 game segments that are aberrations always get evened out and the odds get you over the course of the long grind of the season, and even though the usual suspects were all blowing sunshine telling me I was crazy to be concerned about it, the proof was once again in the pudding as dear old Mom used to say.

Keep in my mind my point of reference here re Moose. . . Moose had a great year last year, if you’re expecting Mason to be a significant upgrade over the performance of Moose last year, then I guess you can just wait for that pudding as well . . .

GaVaHokie

July 26th, 2010
3:22 pm

I believe the discussion last year regarding SA/G was that it wouldn’t be a surprise with Anderson’s system, because the Defensemen would be joining the rush more often.

Joe Friday

July 26th, 2010
3:22 pm

I still like having Mason this coming two years over Moose, however, as I don’t expect Moose to be able to keep up that great year he has last, in the future . . . wish we had an upgrade in goal, but at least we didn’t step back like we did at D.

“Dumping all the blame on our defensive corps completely ignores our yearly inability to ice a decent forechecking group that can run the cycle, pass in the zone, etc….which yes, does necessarily also include good play by the defensemen on ice for that shift.”

this is a good point. Just today I read an interview Red Light did with Coach a while ago, and Coach says the same thing about pushing the opposing team’s best players back into their own zone and forcing them to play there. Said Mario hated to play in his zone, but that’s what they made him do, good strategery

Jack

July 26th, 2010
3:29 pm

WOW saying Mason is not an upgrade to Moose. Thats like saying spolied milk tastes better than regular milk. Moose rocked but the Mason Patrol will rock the house.

Joe Friday

July 26th, 2010
3:29 pm

“I believe the discussion last year regarding SA/G was that it wouldn’t be a surprise with Anderson’s system, because the Defensemen would be joining the rush more often.”

You may have talked about that different subject with someone, but what Buzzeng and Rawhide referenced above is exactly what we talked about several games into the season and the usual suspects all poo pooed me when I said “watch out, that will bite us over the long haul” and it did. . .

Zombie Steve

July 26th, 2010
3:30 pm

“goalies in Atlanta tend to take more rubber to the face then a possum on a Georgia county road”

Thanks Rawhide – I just spewed coffee all over my monitor. lol!!

Joe Friday

July 26th, 2010
3:34 pm

Johan Hedberg ‘09-’10 season 21-16-6 record, 2.62 GAA, .915 SA%
Chris Mason ‘09-’10 season 30-22-8 record, 2.53 GAA, .913 SA%

If you think Mason is a significant upgrade over Moose’s performance for us, last year, well, don’t cry when you taste the pudding this winter . . .he’s status quo for us in goal

TableHockey

July 26th, 2010
3:34 pm

Apparently Wheeler and the Bruins are heading to arbitration – depending on what Wheeler is awarded with the B’s may not be able to afford to keep him.

I wonder if Ramsey would consider picking Wheeler up?

kracker

July 26th, 2010
3:35 pm

Same, Smoothie. I love the Moooooose but Mason is hands down the better goalie. He’s in Atlanta and not in St. Louis only because the Blues upgraded with Halak. JF defeats his own argument by continuing to stress that Moose had a much-above average year for him (he did.) Mason’s personal averages for a team that has struggled in recent years is his norm. So unless Mason’s performance drops off significantly, and that is possible, we are considerably better in goal.

And not just because Mason > Moose. Almost as importantly for consistency in goal is now Pavs realizes he does not yet possess the working skills to be a #1 goalie. Realizing that should allow him to properly practice and learn from Mason and (factor #3) also from whoever we hire as a part-time goalie coach that should nonetheless be a better coach than was Weeks.

Cornbread

July 26th, 2010
3:37 pm

“I think it’s a stretch to assume this current crop of defenseman can tuck that number under 30 this coming season.”

What is Mason’s record when the team gave up less than 30 shots a game? That is the real number we should be concerned with.

Cutting shots against has as much to do with team defence and the system played as it does who the D-men are. I’d argue more so. I can’t count the number of games I watched last year where the Thrasher D-men would clear the puck to the winger on the half wall only to have them pressured big time because they had no break-out support from the centerman or weak side wing. Or, in Kovy’s case, was skating into the neutral zone before it was 100% for sure that the puck was going to be cleared. This should go without saying but is the leading cause of turnovers, not clearing the zone, shots against, and ultimately goals against.

The Thrashers have most recently been one of the top offensive teams in the league. Where has that gotten them? There are plenty of teams that score less and play a better all around and more responsible game who make it to the playoffs every year. The Thrashers will play that way under Ramsay.

The D-men that the Thrashers do have, even with out Kubina, are solid. Hainsey, Oduya, Enstrom and Bogosian are all capable number 2 or 3 D-men in the NHL. The Thrashers have never had a better shut-down D-man than Sopel (who was also a solid number 2-3 at one time in his career). Signing him made Kubina expendable, as much as that hurt. Still, it’s arguable if Kubina, as good as he is, is a true number 1, at least in the mold of a Lidstrom or Keith, or a Pronger for that matter. Most importantly, Sopel brings leadership and the experience to mentor the PK units along with Bogosian, Valabik, and Kulda. None of these three have hit their potential and in a year or two will be solid shut-down guys themselves.

The Thrashers may not score as much as they have in the past but they are not going to give up as many either. Signing a high scoring winger would be nice but not just for the sake of signing one to score goals who does not fit into the system that they are clearly building. The Thrashers just signed 5 of the most recent Stanley Cup Champions, a proven number 1 goalie, and a respected Head Coach. When has that ever happened, with any team?

The Thrashers are a better team than they were last year at this time. Others will take them seriously for a change.

Cornbread

July 26th, 2010
3:38 pm

Is Kovalchuk the new Russian spokesperson for Direct TV?

kracker

July 26th, 2010
3:39 pm

Sorry, Joe, I hadn’t read your disclaimer on Moose as I typed the previous comment. I’m still happy to have Mason.

Jack

July 26th, 2010
3:44 pm

Mason’s stats slightly better, but remember he played many more games than Mr.Moose

Smoothie

July 26th, 2010
3:56 pm

Yeah, Moose had a career year last year. He was playing above his head. The chances of him maintaining that level of play is higher in NJ where he will typically face 25-30 shots on goal and not an avg of 33. Actually, Moose typically faced closer to 32 / game where as Opie typically faced closer to 35. Don’t know if the difference was Moose’s stick-handling / ability to read the play, but look at this juxtaposition of stats from the miserable month of December:

Pavelec – SA avg of 37.52; SV % of 85.9; GAA of 5.29; 1 – 6 – 0 record
Moooose – SA avg of 28.22; SV % of 91.4; GAA of 2.44; 3 – 4 – 1 record

Talk about your crazy statistical anomalies!!

Rawhide

July 26th, 2010
3:57 pm

Per Kevin Allen twitter:

“Ryan Parent signs two-year deal with Predators for $1.85 million. Yearly salaries are 850K and 1 million”

Midfield

July 26th, 2010
4:00 pm

Cornbread, correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t you predicting a cake-walk all the way through the first round of play-offs after Kovy’s trade? I mean, I’m all for healthy optimism, but rational people only pop up champaign when they seat pretty looking at the good looking score board.

Cornbread

July 26th, 2010
4:08 pm

No Midfield you are wrong. I maintain that the number one reason the Thrashers were not in the playoffs last year is because of Ilya Kovalchuk. As far as his record with NJ, let me add that I’m pleased with the outcome. The Thrashers got the better end of that trade.

Midfield

July 26th, 2010
4:25 pm

And you’re saying that while praising the trade you did not say that the team was definitely play-off bound? Hmmm…

Smoothie

July 26th, 2010
4:42 pm

For those who would like to see a statistical comparison of Moose and Mason, I present to thee:

Moose – 272.35 games played; SA avg of 29.33; SV% of .900; GAA of 2.93
Mason – 228.85 games played; SA avg of 29.40; SV% of .914; GAA of 2.53

But don’t let any facts get in the way of a good argument. Mason is not hardly an upgrade over Moose. ;-)

I was actually kind of surprised to see that Mason’s avg shots faced was as high as Moose’s for his career. I thought it might be closer to 27 or 27.5 due to the time he spent in Nashville. But alas, if Rammer can get this team to where they’re only giving up 30 SOG / gm, then we may end up very pleased with the results.

glovesave29

July 26th, 2010
4:53 pm

If we average 30 shots against per game x 82 games = 2460 shots against for the season. Take Mason’s 0.014 better SPG and that comes to 34 fewer goals against per season.

We all liked Moose and wish him well. Last year was a career year for him and he parlayed it into a nice contact with the Devils…good for him. Mason is DEFINATELY an upgrade over Moose.

Smoothie

July 26th, 2010
5:01 pm

gs29 – I’d be happy with just a 1% improvement without the 4 thousandths on the .914 as he will likely face a slightly heavier work-load playing for the Thrashers. Even at an avg of 31, that’s a potential improvement of 25 fewer goals. Of course, Pavelec will be playing for 25-30 of these so….who knows?

Barry

July 26th, 2010
6:03 pm

The more I read about Mason the more I’m glad he’s our #1 goalie. We have been needing a solid somewhat veteran goalie for a while who can be a #1. Nothing against Moose but he’s primarily been a career backup. Now I know our defensemen are just about all the same this season I can’t really put the blame on them for the GA/GF differential. For the sake of argument let’s say that Bogosian rebounds and has a good year again. The main issue for a long time has always been the lack of defense from our forwards and the lack of sustained forechecks. If this seasons team along with the knowledge of Rammer and Torchetti can get this team to play a better all around sound defensive team game I think Mason and Pavelec won’t be seeing quite as many shots this year. We can always hope…

Brendan

July 26th, 2010
6:24 pm

I hate to bring this sore subject up again, but Evgeni Nabakov’s cap hit turned out to only be $4.0 million, playing in the KHL. That’s what comes from six years /$24 million. Of course, at 35 years of age, that pays him until he’s 41. I’m not too sure we’d really want to be paying Nabakov much past 39. Looking at the cap space Atlanta has … that contract was “doable.” We had the room. Bygones. In theory, Pavelec, 22 years of age, is our # 1 goalie for the coming years. As such, we really don’t have room for a $4 million back up, for 2-3 seasons. If we had committed ownership, we’d have just signed Nabakov, if his agent didn’t hang up on our phone calls, and bought him out at 38, 39, or 40 years of age. I’m sure Nabby would have insisted on a “no movement clause,” so that he couldn’t just be stashed in the minors. Atlanta could attempt to waive him, in hopes he other team claimed him off waivers or re-entry waivers at half-price.

When I looked at the UFA goalie crop this year, I had my eye on Marty Biron as something “plausible.” I cast glances at RFA’s Jeff Leslauriers and Josh Harding, as well. As well as Ersberg and Quick, in Los Angeles. But, ultimately, Chris Mason isn’t a bad choice. And if Chris Mason had signed elsewhere, I’d seriously be looking at Jose Theodore and seeing what it would really take to land his contract.

Rawhide

July 26th, 2010
6:33 pm

For those of you hopeing for Alexander Frolov to be signed here, this Scott Burnside tweet may break your hearts…

“New York Rangers and unrestricted free agent Alexander Frolov are nearing a deal. Have to work out term”

World Be Free

July 26th, 2010
6:36 pm

Defense was Ramsay’s strongpoint as a player. I would expect his forwards to be more dedicated in the defensive end of the rink.

As for John Anderson’s style, I will go on record right now and state that Anderson will never get an NHL head coaching job again. Anderson’s game philosphies were minor league, his defensive schemes as a team invited 30+ shots/game. So Anderson meets the same fate at Curt Fraser.

Mason is a good choice.

Brendan

July 26th, 2010
6:38 pm

Really, truly, Atlanta doesn’t have much money tied up in goaltending. God forbid a situation where “he who shall not be mentioned” happened, we still have plenty of money to go get another goalie during the season. Boston would love to be rid of Tim Thomas’ salary, which is a downward sliding pay scale, and so would Chicago like to be rid of Cristobal Huet’s contract. Marty Turco is still un-signed. Vesa Toskala … I don’t think … has re-signed anywhere yet. I could be wrong on that one.

Re: Hedberg, I urged that we move Moose, while he had put up such a *gift* of a season for us. His trade value would never have been higher for us. During the offseason, we speculated a 7th rounder would be all we got for Moose, if we dealt him. Certainly, we would have done better than that at the trade deadline. Then again, what message does that send to the fan base, when the # 1 goalie is traded during a playoff run? Well, it would have told me that we sized up the situation and decided to see what Pavelec could do. And if he couldn’t handle it, we’d have our answer, while salvaging an asset in Hedberg, in a year where 8 teams were competing for 3 open playoff spots. If there were 5 open playoff spots at the deadline, I would have screamed if we moved Hedberg. But eight into three sports isn’t good odds. We rolled the dice. We took our shot. It was what it was.

World Be Free

July 26th, 2010
6:39 pm

The Rangers are going to have to move salary to sign Frolov and resign Staal. Redden to the minors is a must.

World Be Free

July 26th, 2010
6:47 pm

Moose will be a great backup in Jersey

Red Light

July 26th, 2010
6:55 pm

I hope Redden takes Rozsival with him! That would free up $10.5 million in cap space for the Rangers. It’s simply amazing how much money that team has wasted over the years, before and after Sather!

Red Light

July 26th, 2010
6:56 pm

Since Moose will only play at most 22 games and Marty 60, both should be better off this season. And, I don’t think there’s any way that Lou walks away from the Kovy deal. That is the true double-edged sword no matter what direction the arbiter takes it.

Smoothie

July 26th, 2010
7:16 pm

If NYR sign Frolov to a deal, should we entertain slapping an offer sheet on Marc Staal just for grins? Drive up the price at least so they won’t have as much flexibility next year when Dubi or Callahan is due? I can’t remember exactly but I think one may be up for a new deal next year.