Prospect camp observations and comments

First off…I hope everyone had a great weekend. I suppose a lot of you spent at least some of it at prospect camp in Duluth. If so, I look forward to reading your thoughts and observations. As for me…well, after spending Thursday and Friday out there I dealt with a few issues at home. Older son’s car had a water pump go out on it Friday night, and while that was being replaced we were out with the younger son looking for a car for him.

Ah…the joys of having teenage sons.

Anyway, here are a couple of quick remarks/comments about a few of the players that I was looking at during prospect camp.

I was impressed with the raw skills and talent possessed by Alexander Burmistrov. Very fast, smooth skater who seems to have good vision on the ice…head up and quick reactions.

However, I have to admit that I still feel the same way as I did before in regards to him playing in a Thrashers uniform this fall. Simply put, I don’t think he’s as far along as Evander Kane was this time last summer. When I first saw Kane at camp last year, there was this “something” about how he conducted himself on ice that just struck me…told me he had no business going back to Vancouver of the WHL. And since he could not go to Chicago because of that league’s age policy, it was all but certain he’d be in Atlanta.

I didn’t get that same vibe from Burmistrov.

JLH…a frequent contributor of this bog…pointed out to me that he though the number-eight overall draft pick appeared to be “trying too hard” out there. It was, he said, almost as if he were trying to work his way onto the team as opposed to just allowing his skills to do all the talking.

That may or not be so…but if the biggest knock against an 18-year old kid is that he’s trying too hard, that’s a forgivable sin in my book. Let’s see what he looks like with the bib boys at training camp.

Speaking of working and trying hard…that’s exactly how I would describe John Albert, the 5’-10”, 180-pound center who was the Thrashers 6th round pick in 2007, 175th overall. Albert was all hustle all the time out there and others had to work hard to keep up with him.

In the past three years at Ohio State he’s scored 21 goals and 69 assists in 122 total games. However, Hockey’s Future describes him as a “playmaking center with sufficient quickness. Has a better shot than his statistics show”. I have to say that I can see what they mean, so keep an eye on this kid.

In between the pipes…I went to camp looking at goalie Ed Pasquale, but I must admit that Chris Carrozzi caught my eye while there. This guy is a competitor who you could tell expects a lot from himself…very sharp and focused while on the ice.

Last season with the Mississauga St. Michael’s Majors of the OHL, Carrozzi was 19-10-5 with a 2.36 GAA and .916 SV%.

Patrice Cormier really impressed me with his play. Depending on whatever moves Rick Dudley makes between now and September, there very well could be a spot on the roster for him. I still think we could see a 4th line made up of him, Eager and Boulton/Thorburn.

Not surprisingly, Carl Kingberg was very impressive as well…great skills. Another year and we should be talking about whether or not he could make serious bit to play in Atlanta. As C-Viv reports, he’s looking for more ice time…either in Sweden or over here at the AHL level.

On defense, the best player in my opinion was Paul Postma, the Thrashers 205th overall selection in ’07. His 6’-3” frame brings with it a big presence on the blueline. Last season he had 29 overall points, was a +5 with only 24 PIM in 63 regular season games with the Wolves.

While there’s no room for him at Thrasherville’s Blueline Inn this season, look for him in the next coming seasons to make a serious push for the NHL.

And finally…I saw Angelo Esposito workout between sessions Friday. He looked good on the ice, no favoring the knee that has suffered injuries over the past two seasons. But then, he’s not participating in prospect camp because it’s still not 100% yet, I’m told.

This will be a very big year for him in Chicago. Whether or not he can make it through the season injury-free could very well determine his future hopes at the NHL level.

193 comments Add your comment

Zoomo

July 12th, 2010
11:29 am

John Albert…impressed many folks. Many comments on him on other blogs. My thougths were that he was clearly the hardest worker on the ice and has a great pair of hands – he was great in drills at getting the puck on net from close in situations.

Spud Webb

July 12th, 2010
11:44 am

Went out for a bit yesterday. To be honest I couldn’t tell who was who, I noticed Cormier and Burmistrov. Burmistrov is very, very fast, we knew that though! One thing I did notice is the size we seem to have in these young kids. Some biggins out there who could move. I did get a chance to talk to redlight, who seems to think the Ohio State kid looked really good.

Spud Webb

July 12th, 2010
11:45 am

Also, my women said as we pulled up, “I thought this wasn’t a hockey town”? lol, place was pretty full! I love it, middle of summer, 4pm on a Sunday afternoon and a great crowd shows up for “prospects”! Nice

The Smooth Spark

July 12th, 2010
11:48 am

“Simply put, I don’t think he’s as far along as Evander Kane was this time last summer. When I first saw Kane at camp last year, there was this “something” about how he conducted himself on ice…”

Could not agree more Rawhide. I remember watching Kaner with you at Camp last year and telling you that he just seemed to have “it”, whatever “it” is that means the difference between just having potential and being ready to make the “show”. Burma isn’t there yet. Although I would have liked to have seen him play yesterday as he apparently was much more relaxed and comfortable out there. But alas, I think he will benefit from a year of getting stronger and more skilled in the OHL.

“On defense, the best player in my opinion was Paul Postma…While there’s no room for him at Thrasherville’s Blueline Inn this season, look for him in the next coming seasons to make a serious push for the NHL.”

Not sure if I agree whole-heartedly here. Unless we go out and purchase a $850 k UFA d-man to bolster our depth in the pressbox, I think Postma has a shot to make the team this fall out of camp. Especially with Valabik’s return a big question mark as to when he’ll be ready. Postma may get a month or so as our 7th d-man with several chances to prove himself early on in the season. Obviously, you want a player as skilled as him to play a lot to keep getting better so he may not stick in the NHL as a 7th man as it would be a bit of developmental waste. But I think he could start out in ATL before getting shipped off to CHI.

Rawhide

July 12th, 2010
11:49 am

I think Postma has a shot to make the team this fall out of camp. Especially with Valabik’s return a big question mark as to when he’ll be ready.

The Tall Smooth One – The way I have it, the seven I’d put on the bluline roster are…Enstrom, Hainsey, Oduya, Bogosian, Sopel, Kulda and Valabik. But as you said, if Boris isn’t ready or is used as trade bait, then yes…I would think Postma has an opening to prove himself worthy.

Also, my women said as we pulled up, “I thought this wasn’t a hockey town”? lol, place was pretty full!

Spud Webb – I see that you wrote “womEn”….plural. Nice.

Spud is the stud!!

Zoomo – Glad to see you’re back in town. I heard the RnR HOF was a cool place. Must get there sometime.

The Smooth Spark

July 12th, 2010
12:02 pm

Tall? Hardly! The Slightly Above Average Smooth Dude is more like it.

World Be Free

July 12th, 2010
12:23 pm

It is always a bonus when you can get an 18 year old rookie on your roster. Bogo and Kane were high picks and the general feeling about this draft was that there was a dropoff after the 4th player taken, especially in NHL readiness. So I can’t say I am disappointed that Alex is not ready to go yet. It’s tough to be both young and small when you are playing against men, no picnic going into corners with guys that are 40-50 lbs heavier than you are. Let Alex stay in juniors one more year and have a steady diet of milk shakes and Tim Horton Donuts.

Spud Webb

July 12th, 2010
12:26 pm

ahahahaha, oops, woman, sorry about that!! Far, far from a stud!!

Paminski

July 12th, 2010
12:30 pm

At Saturday’s 4-on-4, Postma was definitely a cut above the rest. Mr. Paminski noted his confidence and ease of movement and I agreed. The Mr. also took note of Samuels, but I thought he was a bit raw and lacked focus. Klingberg also seemed to have something more than other participants.

World Be Free

July 12th, 2010
12:44 pm

The organization should promise Klingberg 1st line participation in Chicago (if they can) to get him here. The sooner he comes to North America, the sooner he will be ready to play in Atlanta. There are times when I believe Dudley will add another veteran, then I change my thinking to giving guys like Postma and Cormier a chance. Cormier will be in Atlanta and he will be a force. Toughness makes up for alotta shortcomings. I’d like to see the kid here versus some veteran scrub.

glovesave29

July 12th, 2010
12:56 pm

It’s being reported on TSN (.com not .ca) that Mike Stothers has been named an assistant coach for the Thrash.

World Be Free

July 12th, 2010
1:07 pm

Looks like the Kovy offers from LA and NJ are alot less in years and dollars than what Atlanta offered. I guess I am not insulted.

Any way you cut it, Kovalchuk will be giving up a number of years and a slew of dollars to NOT be in Atlanta. Kinda like what Lebron did.

R. Stroz

July 12th, 2010
1:17 pm

WBF – Yeah, but Florida doesn’t have a state income tax and California is nearly bankrupt with a high property and state income tax burden.

Maybe LeBron is smarter than Kovy when it comes to business decisions.

Riceowls

July 12th, 2010
1:31 pm

Burmistrov looked good sunday, until he tried to go wide on Postma. Postma pushed him into the corner and ended the threat. So maybe Burmistrov isn’t quite big enough yet. I also thought Chiarot and Paquette looked much better than last year.

And man, do they all look big.

Old Time Hockey

July 12th, 2010
1:35 pm

World Be…unfortunately your quote on adding weight to these kids is more the norm than the exception. Nutrition and proper workouts are soooo important these days and just not focused on enough…yet. I know top end trainers who get guys ready for the combine. With proper plans, they add 20-30 lbs of muscle (totally clean) and get faster and stronger in 6 weeks. But for some reason the teams themselves tend to stick with what they have always done. Same for the performance mouthguards…they work (the Saints were all wearing them), but try to convince a team trainer. You would think with the money they spend on running teams the owners would want the best and latest.

Rawhide

July 12th, 2010
1:39 pm

glovesave29 – C-Viv confirms the Stothers hiring.

Also…Chris has a nice write up on prospect Akim Aliu’s attempt to put his reputation behind him.

Jack

July 12th, 2010
1:50 pm

any thoughts on Stothers hiring. Also they may not hire full time goalie coach. Any thoguhts on this, as I see this odd with Pav on the team.

Rawhide

July 12th, 2010
1:57 pm

Jack – Personally, I have very little knowledge regarding Stothers. I’ve started some on-line research and this is really all I’ve found so far. The one thing of note here is that he played defense with the Flyers and Maple Leafs prior to his coaching days.

As far as the goalie coach situation…yes, I have heard the same thing regarding the team hiring a part-time consultant instead of a full-time coach.

World Be Free

July 12th, 2010
2:10 pm

Old Time-problem with Alex is that he is so much smaller than the other players. It will take some time before he get the bulk/weight needed to by in the NHL. He reminds me alot of Petr Svaboda, drafted by the Habs in 1984. The kid had talent, but it took him some time to get the minimum size to compete without getting his head knocked off.

I remember Stothers when he played for Tronna. Hope he’s a better coach than he was a player, but the Leafs were pretty bad back then too.

Old Time Hockey

July 12th, 2010
2:22 pm

WBF-I’ve seen high school seniors go from 185lb to 225-235lb in 6 weeks and improve strength and lower their 40 times. And it’s not anything exotic, just scientific. Everyone needs their own plan, and they are all a little different. Going to the weight room 2-3 times a week and doing the same workouts that have been done since I was in high school just isn’t the best that they can do. How many times have you heard them say “He just needs to fill out a little bit” or “he’ll have a better chance when he adds 20 pounds”. Frustrating to hear because it should not be an issue these days.

Jameson

July 12th, 2010
2:28 pm

I’m planning on going tomorrow. About how long did the scrimmage last yesterday?

da' boomer

July 12th, 2010
2:33 pm

jameson – sunday afternoon they played (2) 15 minute periods of 4 of 4 with a short break in between periods

Nate

July 12th, 2010
2:52 pm

Great crowd yesterday! I thought hockey in Atlanta was supposed to collapse after Kovalchuk was traded…

World Be Free

July 12th, 2010
2:55 pm

Old Time-go from 185 to 225 for football or hockey?
I don’t mean to split hairs because they are both physical games. But I have seen some hockey players have issues with abdominal muscles when they bulk up too much for their frame too quickly. Alex will bulk up in his time; I am leery of having 18 year olds in the NHL because of the physical and metal demands. I think he needs to be a kid one more year.

Flames

July 12th, 2010
3:03 pm

I think Burmistrov is only a year away from the NHL. I was told that he weighted in at 167 lbs at the prospect camp. I think the kid could hold his own at 185 lbs. He looked really good Sunday at the Scrimmage. It was nice seeing a crowd Sunday. I’ve seen practices where C-Viv was the only person in the stands.

Smoothie-I would be real surprised if Max came back this year….I still have my fingers crossed.

glovesave29

July 12th, 2010
3:05 pm

Hearing the Hawks are going to match the Sharks offer and will keep Hjalmarsson. Supposedly Chicago is shopping Campbell (no, thanks) and Sharp (YES, YES – oh hale YES please).

I mean, why not…half the Hawks are here now, so what’s one more?

Make that signing and I am heading to the ticket office today for my season tickets!

JC

July 12th, 2010
3:19 pm

My thoughts exactly. If the ‘Hawks match, let’s get Sharp. What are you hearing Flames?

Red Light

July 12th, 2010
3:23 pm

So, you think the Hawks will match the sheet and unload Sharp? Puhleeze! They’ll send Huet to the minors instead and no worries.

The Smooth Spark

July 12th, 2010
3:24 pm

Flames – not getting my hopes up at this point, but I’d welcome Max’s return considering the rugged make-up of the rest of the squad. We have very few “floaters” on the roster if any. Standing pat thus far may really work to our advantage if indeed sharp is on the market too. Go get his a$$ if you can. Hell, I’d even be willing to give up Cormier along with C-Mac and a draft pick. Do not give up Postma or Kulda tho.

R. Stroz

July 12th, 2010
3:29 pm

I’m all for disposing of the digestive duo: Mac-Cheese & Charmin.

World Be Free

July 12th, 2010
3:31 pm

Smoothie-Floaters are an endangered species with Dudley in control.
I.D.W.T.

Rawhide

July 12th, 2010
3:33 pm

The Smooth Spark – Keep in mind that when Dudley and the Blackhawks were negotiating that deal that brought in Sopel, Byfuglien and Eager…Sharp was discussed as well. But they wanted Cormier in the deal in order for Sharp to be inculded on their end. If Duds wasn’t willing to part with him then, I don’t think he’d want to now.

R.Stroz – Let’s be careful using the term “Charmin” right after a comment containing the term “floaters”…Hmm-K?

Brendan

July 12th, 2010
3:50 pm

TSN.ca is reporting that the Blackhawks have matched San Jose’s RFA offersheet for Nic Hjalmarsson. http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=327374

glovesave29

July 12th, 2010
3:50 pm

If Eklund were the source…I’d dismiss it. This nugget came from LeBrun, who’s usually pretty well connected. Huet’s gonna be buried in the minors so the contract does not count against the cap, that is a long foregone conclusion. The Sharks threw a wrench in all this for Chicago, as I am sure the Hawks budget for this season was not being set expecting such a huge raise for Hjalmarsson. While their demands were once much higher for Sharp, the recent change in the team payroll status may require them to lower their expectations. They got a good haul in prospects and picks from their trades with Atlanta and Toronto, so they may be a bit less inclined to take another, and open to ideas such as taking a current NHLer.

Brendan

July 12th, 2010
3:55 pm

Guys, I doubt we can get Sharp. He’s a UFA in two years. http://www.nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?team=CHI&season=0910. Chicago would probably give us Campbell, however, but Campbell has that NTC. And that would be that, I suppose.

Eileen

July 12th, 2010
3:55 pm

Does anyone know what time prospect camp starts tomorrow? Thanks.

Brendan

July 12th, 2010
3:58 pm

Glovesave29, they’d do Huet for Pavelec, then, and jump up and down over the savings.

Rawhide

July 12th, 2010
4:06 pm

Eileen – The morning sessions will run between 9:00 and 11:00. The afternoon session will have both the blue and white squads on-ice together between 3 and 4. The 4 on 4 will start at 4:00.

Here’s a link to all the info you’ll need.

Brendan – regarding Campbell…on first thought I would venture to guess Campbell would not waive his NTC to come here. However, consider the fact that 4 of the players he skated The Cup with are already on this team. He would make 5…or 1/4 of the lineup. Is it that odd to think maybe he would consider wanting to re-join them?

Just food for thought….

glovesave29

July 12th, 2010
4:17 pm

Brendan…no way Dudley makes that move. No way ANY GM makes a similar move. No one is going to do the Hawks any favors on either Huet or Campbell. They are stuck with those two contracts. You take advantage of a team in a cap bind…don’t rescue them.

The amazing thing about all this is is that the Hawks were 13 seconds away from blowing it all against Nashville. Hossa scores in OT when he should have been tossed in regulation. It makes this partial dismantling easier having just won the Cup. Can you imagine if this were all happening after a 1st round defeat? Moot point I know…but still fun to speculate.

The Smooth Spark

July 12th, 2010
4:18 pm

Wow, guess the Hawks were really afraid of the potential fall-out from letting Hjalmarsson go. But they are in troubs-ville with their payroll for shizzle. Even if they demote Huet to the minors, they will still only have $5.7 M to sign Niemi, who is due a big raise, a back-up goalie (unless they promote Crawford at $800 k), 3 or 4 forwards and 2 d-men (that is unless they are willing to go with 6 only until they need a call-up). But I would think they would want at least 13 forwards for depth and flexibility then.

If you subtract out $2.75 M (at minimum for Niemi) and $800 k for Crawford, that leaves them $2.2 M for 5 other players. Problem is that’s not enough money as the league min salary is $500 k and they would need $2.5 M for 5 players. But top prospects Beach and Skille are more expensive as Beach makes $1.2 M with bonuses and Skille is due a 5% raise as an RFA. They will still have a hard time getting under the cap even with sending Huet down. And if they want any kind of veteran depth on the bottom 2 lines other than Reasoner and Kopecky, then they will still need to make a move or two.

Old Time Hockey

July 12th, 2010
4:31 pm

WBF—The ones I’ve seen were football, lacrosse players. My point is, if the kid needs 20lbs to have a shot at making the team, should not be an issue. If they don’t add it the right way, there can be issues, but from what I’ve seen, done the right way there are less muscle pull problems. It’s not something everyone can do. It’s HARD work and proper diet. Sounded like this kid is smart and ready to go. Some kids definitely need to mature (mentally) a bit, but it didn’t sound like that was a problem for him. Bottom line is if it’s a lack of strength, it is achievable…if it’s a maturity thing then wait a year.

As far as Campbell…he did not, in any way, prove that he is a 7.1 million dollar a year guy. 7 goals and 31 assists? Virtually identical stats to Kubina. Toby had 12 more points than Campbell. That is money better spent elsewhere. That would be asking for the same problems the Hawks are facing. Over-valued players you can’t move.

R. Stroz

July 12th, 2010
4:39 pm

Irony

Campbell used the Thrashers to get a huge contract from the Blackhawks. The Thrashers used Campbell’s contract to take a quarter of the Blackhawks team.

World Be Free

July 12th, 2010
4:44 pm

Old Time-understood and agreed.

Stroz-The Campbell and Huet contracts are the reasons why the Black Hawks did not trade with Tallon in Florida-Tallon and his stupid contracts are a part part of the reason that the Hawks have had to sell off so many assets.

Red Light

July 12th, 2010
4:49 pm

A former 9th round pick in the 1994 NHL draft has managed to play 846 games, tallying 660 points and played pre-lockout when clutching and grabbing were prevalent. At 5-9, 155 pounds, Steve Sullivan is now entering his 14th season and you guys are worried about a 6-2, 175 pound center not being big enough at 18 years old?

I’m more concerned about whether or not Burmistrov will compete, not his size. Actually, I’m not really concerned about that either. Give him two years. This kid can play. And while we’re at it, what’s the hurry?

The Smooth Spark

July 12th, 2010
4:53 pm

I say to heck with Cormier if we can get Patrick Sharp! What has he proven other than how reckless he can be? Everyone wants to bequeath the 3rd line C position to him, but Jimmy Slater’s improvement and efforts are completely forgotten? I’m perfectly comfortable with a 3rd line of Ladd-Slater-Little if our 2nd line is Pevs-Sharp-Kaner.

Are you kidding me? That is a line-up that can contend NOW! And that’s exactly what we need to do. I think Dudley was smart to posture earlier about Cormier. Wait till they’re nice and desperate again and then remind them how much they wanted Patrice. Then you need not part with any draft picks. Cormier and C-Mac for Sharp. Done deal. Saves the Hawks $1.5 M and allows them flexibility to sign Niemi and an inexpensive FA or two. That Campbell contract is going to look worse than even the DiPietro contract if they lose yet another key core piece.

Tom

July 12th, 2010
5:00 pm

According to NHLSourcesSays the Thrashers are showing interest in Pavol Demitra.

Pavol Demitra has 2 KHL offers aswell as considerable interest from 2 NHL teams, the Rangers and Thrashers.

R. Stroz

July 12th, 2010
5:01 pm

Since we’re discussing stupid contracts, can anyone think of one that was worse than Yashin’s contract?

Red Light

July 12th, 2010
5:03 pm

Cormier reminds me of a very young Ryan Walter, except bigger, who came into the league and was very combative and then settled down into a nice defensively responsible center who contributed nice offensive numbers too. He’s not flashy but is excellent positionally. Looked good in the face-off circle, actually dominant yesterday. You know I love Sharp, but the Hawks can’t weaken themselves anymore than they already have in the middle. Still think he’s a Blackhawk for awhile.

R. Stroz: Jon Koncak?

R. Stroz

July 12th, 2010
5:04 pm

If the Thrashers are looking at Demitra, Waddell is involved in player decisions.

R. Stroz

July 12th, 2010
5:05 pm

Red Light – I should have qualified my question to stupid hockey contracts.

glovesave29

July 12th, 2010
5:13 pm

Stroz – Rick DiPietro. Especially in light of the fact the Isles drafted Luongo and DiPietro in consecutive years with their first pick.

Red Light

July 12th, 2010
5:14 pm

OK, how about Michael Nylander (Wash.), Markus Naslund (NYR), Sean Avery (Dallas), Wade Redden (NYR), Vincent Lecavalier (TBL) JS Giguere (Ana) and Rick DiPietro (NYI)? All look pretty bad in retrospect, but it’s tough to top the Yashin deal for sure.

Red Light

July 12th, 2010
5:15 pm

Shawn Horcoff, Oilers?

Red Light

July 12th, 2010
5:19 pm

Not-so-honorable mention?
Joffrey Lupul (Anaheim): 4 years/$17M
Jeff Finger (Toronto): 4 years/$14M
Thomas Vanek (Buffalo): 7 years/$50M
Chris Pronger (Philadelphia): 7 years/$34M
Chris Drury (NY Rangers): 5 years/$35M

World Be Free

July 12th, 2010
5:23 pm

Horcoff’s may be the worst contract in the game today. Yashin’s was just plain stupid. How about 1/2 the guys the Leafs have signed in the last 5 seasons?

R/L started it-Derek Lowe’s contract is pretty awful if you consider the number of current Braves’ pitchers that are better.

Red Light

July 12th, 2010
5:33 pm

World Be Free: His contract can’t hold a candle to these ex-hurlers: Wayne Garland, Len Barker and Mike Hampton!

Darkhorse

July 12th, 2010
6:10 pm

Let’s not forget about Joe Johnson new deal indirectly affecting the Thrashers by ownership not having enough cash to pay for a full-time goalie coach. Kidding, but wouldn’t be surprised.

So what is Sharp. Is he a true 2nd-3rd line center, or does he have enough upside left to be a legit 1st line player/all-star type? I’ve always liked his game, and if we could get him for a pick and a few mid-level prospects, why not? If the asking price is too high, then it’s too high, but Chicago isn’t exactly in the drivers seat when it comes to demands.

Would you folks be willing to pay the price for him, IF he’s available, or rather sign Max, or Demitra, Poni, or some other tier two forward to complete the roster?

Brendan

July 12th, 2010
6:27 pm

Eric Brewer, defenseman, is making $4.5 million in St. Louis. Brad Richards is making $7.8 million in Dalllas. Yes, the contract Jay Feaster gave him flush out of the lockout to prove to the Tampa season ticket holders that the Bolts were committed to Championship form. That was a bad contract. $7.8 million for Richards, for six years. At the time, $7.8 million was the league max under the initial $39 million cap. That stupid decision forced Nicholai Khabibulin out of Tampa Bay, and over to Chicago. And now, he’s in Edmonton.

Sheldon Souray’s deal, for a cap hit of $5.4 million, looks pretty bad. Blueliner Tom Gilbert, Edmonton Oilers, makes $5.5 this year, and $5.0 next year, and $3.5 in 2013. Truthfully, I don’t even know who he is. And for that kind of money, I should. Dustin Penner’s $4.25 million is bad contract, spawned of that Kevin Lowe RFA offersheet variety.

Daymond Langkow, in Calgary, is making $4.5 million. Iggy is making $7.0. Those are some borderline bad deals. Rene Bourque is making $4.0 million for the next few seasons. All of those are Calgary Flames deals.

As bad as that Brad Richards deal was, I still gotta go with Wade Redden’s deal as one of the worst I’ve seen in the post lockout. $6.5 million in cap hit, pretty much since the lockout. In 2013, the figure dips to $5.0 million. That’s more buyer’s remorse than a drunken night out at the Pony or the Horse.

In Phoenix, they’re shelling out $6.0 million for Jovanovski. That’s a lot for a JovoCop. He’s a UFA next year. He’s only 33 or 34, if you can believe that. I thought he was nearly 40. Chris Drury makes $8 million this year and $5 million next year. And I like Drury … but he’s overpaid. I’m on record as saying the Sabres should have kept Drury and let Briere go. After last year’s playoffs, where Briere was almost the Conn Smythe winner, I do stand corrected.

For the Islanders, it’s the duration of the Dipietro contract that bothers me the most (15 years). $4.5 million, when DiPietro is healthy and playing well, doesn’t seem that egregious.

If there’s a contract that nudges against Drury’s and Brad Richards’, it’s Scott Gomez’. He’ll make $8 million this year, $7.5 million next year, and $5.5 million the year after that. That’s a horrible contract. In NJ, there’s Brian Rolston and his $5 million. Plus Zubrus, at $3.4, for the next 3 seasons. In Minnesota, D-man Nick Schultz and his $3.6 million seems a bit misplaced. He’ll be making that until 2013.

Ya know something folks, Vinny Lecavalier will be paid until the Year 2020. Ten more years, at a cap hit of $7.727 million. He’ll make $10 million-per-season until 2016. In 2017, it slips to $8.5 million. In 2018, it falls to $4.0 million. In 2019 he’ll make $1.5 million. And in 2020, he’ll still be hitting the Lightning’s cap for $1.0 million. I think Vinny Lecavalier is a wonderful player. He’s won a cup. He’s a Tier I player. He’s very decorated, in terms of medals and awards in International play. But at $10 million a year, until 2016, methinks the Bolts overpaid. And they have young Stamkos and Victor Hedman to lock up, as well. The Bolts are paying Mr. Meszaros a shiny penny until 2014. And they just locked up Marty St. Louis. The result? They have no money for goaltending. They have to tough it out with Smith and Ellis. In time, those deals for St. Louis and Vinny Lecavalier will hurt the Lightning.

Brendan

July 12th, 2010
6:39 pm

Glovesave29, I agree that it’s unlikely that another GM will help Chicago out of the Huet deal like that. Especially by surrendering a fine young prospect like Pavelec, in the exchange.

Still, I bet fans in Atlanta would jump up and down to get a player like Brian Campbell here. Those fans don’t know what the salary cap is or means in Atlanta. They’d just be happy that he’s a Thrasher. They way they see it, Campbell makes our team better. Well, it’s hard to argue that he wouldn’t. But, he’s a bad contract, with many, many years left on it. Campbell gets paid $7.14 million until 2016. And he’s already 30. This is the “sting” of free agency. Everyone loves their brand new, custom made house, with an inground pool, fenced yard and an 11 room basement, with six bedrooms and 4.5 baths, on a private, 2-acre, wooded cul-de-sac lot. And then … the 3-year ARM is gone and those mortgage payments crush the family budget. You put the mansion on the market, and are looking at a loss of 30% or more off what you paid for it, just 3-years ago. You thought you were making a sound investment in the future. “Seemed like a ‘good idea’ at the time, right?” That’s free agency, in hockey. To the L.A. Kings credit, they see this … and are trying to be ‘prudent’ with Kovalchuk.

World Be Free

July 12th, 2010
6:46 pm

Let’s go way back to Derek Sanderson’s deal with Philly in the WHA in the early 70’s. Sanderson signed a 7 figure contract at a time when NHL players were making peanuts in comparison. Sanderson partied the contract away and ended up broke.

Tronna and the Rangers can fill a lineup with bad free agent contracts. Sather is senile.

Red Light-any A-Rod contract, especially when you consider his performance after the 7th inning of most games. There was a kid named Rasmussen with the Hawks about 25 years ago but never played (help me here Stroz). Speedy Claxton with the Hawks just a few years ago, another stiff.

Red Light

July 12th, 2010
7:08 pm

Blair Rasmussen stole money in Atlanta. No question.

World Be Free

July 12th, 2010
9:16 pm

There’s a couple Steve Sullivans, Danny Brieres and Martin St. Louis’ in the league that’s for sure. All 3 guys are small but also very talented. But small, successful guys are not commom; teams that win the Stanley Cup normally major in size.

I played at about 150# in high school, rec and regional hockey leagues. I got knocked around alot, so I understand what someone like Toby goes through as a smallish player. Looking back, I would have preferred to have been heavier back then and lighter now.

Blair Rasmussen

kracker

July 12th, 2010
10:55 pm

Jon Kontract…hehehe. Not his fault. He was mis-drafted too high (#5 in 1985 out of SMU), somewhat like Patrik Stefan wasn’t a true #1 but he was the consensus pick in his draft year. The real blunder with Stefan was he was the inaugral pick on an expansion team and was thrust into being “the guy” when he should have waited a year or two to play in the NHL or be developed as a 2nd/3rd line center on an established team.

Whatever….As for Koncak, well, he was a blunder draft-wise but you can’t blame him for the Hawks making a bad call at the draft. Nor can you blame him for the Hawks matching the outrageous free agent offer made to Koncak by the Detroit Pistons.

I just read that SMU retired Koncak’s jersey in 2008. Nice

Brendan

July 13th, 2010
1:17 am

Rawhide, it is interesting to think about the possibility of Campbell waiving his NTC to go elsewhere. Indeed, several of his teammates are here. But, we have to weigh that against what Campbell wants. I’ve always said, “UFA’s sign where they want to play.” So long as Campbell still wants to play in Chicago, where ownership is committed to winning, he holds all the cards. That is the power unrestricted free agency holds. Now, I know what some people will say. “Wasn’t Atlanta the runner-up bid to Chicago, in Campbell’s unrestricted free agency?” The technical answer is, “yes.” But I think most of us know that Campbell’s agent was using Atlanta to drive up the price that Chicago paid.” That’s my opinion, anyway. Had Campbell actually wanted to play in Atlanta, the Thrashers offered more ‘guaranteed money’ than Chicago did, for a lesser cap hit, by extending the contract by one year. I repeat, UFA players sign where they want to be. Atlanta’s ownership is not ‘committed enough’ to winning, and the players all know that. Dudley has brought players to Atlanta, not off the free agent market, where it’s the player’s choice, but by trade. Trouble with that strategy is … what happens when these traded players reach UFA status? History tells us, “they all bolt from Atlanta.” (Except for Kozlov, Boulton and Slater.)

Segue to Kovalchuk. Unless I’m totally misreading this situation, Kovalchuk and his agent have more than ‘tipped their hand’ that Los Angeles is where the talented Russian sniper intends to play. How else can we describe what’s happened? Twice Los Angeles made overtures, and twice they said, “no,” due to price. And yet, Kovy’s agent persists and they made a trip to Los Angeles to try to persuade the Kings that Kovy really is worth the money. Did they do that with the NY Islanders? No, they didn’t. Did they do that with the NJ Devils? I’m not too sure, but I think the answer is “no.” So, am I horribly offbase to say # 17 intends to play in Los Angeles? But the issue is years and price tag. As of 9PM on the night of the 12th of July, TSN.ca reports that “no deal is imminent” with the Kings. Kovalchuk’s agent is clearly trying his level best to convince the Kings that the “going rate” for a Tier I left winger is $10 million. In the Kings shoes, I’d smile and nod, “I’m sure it is. Good luck finding that GM willing to pay that. Our offer is 13 years at cap hit of $6.5 million. If your client likes our city and organization, that’s the price. Nothing prevents him from putting pen to paper other than pride.” It’d be pretty hard to ignore the interest-level of Kovalchuk and his agent in playing in their market. The Kings should stick to their guns. The Kings have Doughty, Johnson, and the goaltender Bernier to lock up, down the road. The truth is, the Kings don’t need Kovalchuk to win. They’ll win without him. It’s up to Grossman and Kovy to realize the situation … and alter their price, to play in L.A.

kracker

July 13th, 2010
7:15 am

Humorous twitter – dchesnokov Kovy’s mom with another quote: “No one in the world knows what the Gagarin Cup is. And everyone knows about the Stanley Cup.”

I take it the Gagarin Cup is awarded to the winner of the title series in the KHL? Kovy’s mom is right.

World Be Free

July 13th, 2010
7:48 am

Brendan-when all is said and done, it looks like Brian Campbell still may have a better contract that Kovy will get in L.A. Some people on this blog have disagreed with me on Campbell’s value in Chicago; I think he’s a number 4 defenseman at best on the Hawks while he is making #1 money. That was all very well before the Hawks won the Cup, but now that they have won, the carnage is on in Chicago and it is not over yet. As the Edmonton Oiler fans how painful it is to see your star players sold off and winning on other teams for seaosn to come. Six more years at $7M + and a no trade clause; all the reasons not to let Dale Tallon negotiate a contract for your team. Let’s hope he hasn’t learned his lesson and he gives Stephan Weiss a similar deal to handcuff the Panthers for a few seasons.

rob

July 13th, 2010
8:26 am

Tim Horton’s certainly helped me put on some weight!!! Dam donuts!!! Thankfully there are none here.

Rawhide

July 13th, 2010
8:40 am

kracker – Yes indeed…the Gagarin Cup is the trophy awarded to the KHL champions. It is named after Soviet Union cosmonaut Yuri Gargarin, the first man to travel into space.

World Be Free

July 13th, 2010
8:44 am

Rawhide-I did not know that. And we don’t have an Alan Sheppard or John Glenn trophy to counter such a space honor?

glovesave29

July 13th, 2010
8:53 am

Gagarin died as a test pilot.

Cant remember where I read it…it was years ago. But Boris Mikhailov, the great Soviet winger told of a story where Yuri Gagarin skated with the national team. He was a huge hockey fan. The players were as in awe of him as he was of them.

Rawhide

July 13th, 2010
8:56 am

Rawhide-I did not know that. And we don’t have an Alan Sheppard or John Glenn trophy to counter such a space honor?

WBF – Nope, but I’m quite sure there have been many rookie goalies who have recited Alan Shepard’s prayer prior to their first NHL start…the same prayer uttered by the astronaut while awaiting blastoff on May 5, 1961.

“Dear Lord, please don’t let me &$#@ up”.

Red Light

July 13th, 2010
9:00 am

The Gargarin Cup carries the same weight as the Suzy Kolber Sideline Reporter of the Year Award doesn’t it?

Tony C.

July 13th, 2010
9:08 am

Because U.S. doesn’t have nearly the sense of history/national identity as Russia does. Since the advent of color TV it’ been a consumable/disposable culture. Seriously, ask anyone 28 or under who Alan Sheppard is and I’ve got $20 that says 9-out-of-10 have no clue. On the flip side, I’d be willing to bet they know “Snooki”s real name.

If you don’t know who Snooki is, trust me, count yourself blessed.

DWTOO

July 13th, 2010
9:12 am

What was that Alan? Everything is A-OK! Best line in both the book and movie “The Right Stuff”.

R/L – bad comparison between a brave man and a person whose sole acheivement is looking cute.

Tony C.

July 13th, 2010
9:12 am

9-out-of-10 maybe a bit cynical… seriously, I would bet 40% wouldn’t be able to even produce a close guess

R. Stroz

July 13th, 2010
9:17 am

Someone who signed in under Head of NASA was alluding to the KHL Cup on the last blog:

http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/2010/07/09/thrasherville-gets-torched-and-im-not-just-talking-about-the-weather/#comment-32070

I wonder who would do that?

Rawhide

July 13th, 2010
9:29 am

Tony C. – Sad commentary…but oh so very true. But I promise you that both my boys could tell you not only who Alan Shepard was, but also who John Glenn, Virgil I. (Gus) Grissom, Scott Carpenter, Walter (Wally) Shirra, Gordon (Gordie) Cooper, and Donald (Deke) Slater Slayton are/were.

They could also tell you which one of those seven never flew on a Mercury Project mission, which one died on the launch pad during the Apolo I fire and which one became a U.S. Senator… and from what state.

Problem is, they are in the minority these days when it comes to such things…and for the very reason you cite. People today could care less about things that happening that have a direct impact on their lives…but they sure as hell wanna know what Lindsey Lohan had on her fingernails last week.

Oops…did I just go there?

stepping off soapbox…

glovesave29

July 13th, 2010
9:36 am

Uh, Rawhide…it’s Deke Slayton…not Slater. That’d be JIM Slater.

I can buy the 9/10. Hell, 40% of Americans cannot find Nebraska on a map. So knowing our space pioneers is probably even worse….sigh.

World Be Free

July 13th, 2010
9:41 am

James Garner recited Shepard’s prayer in “Space Cowboys”.
Tony C.-I think you are right on about 9-10 not knowing. To make it worse, I bet alot of them don’t know any of the astronaut’s names, missions, the horrible events of 1967 or maybe even the Challenger disaster. But that’s for another blog-don’t get me going.

Rawhide

July 13th, 2010
9:42 am

GS29 – Oh Gawd…see what happens when I get worked up! :lol:

DWTOO

July 13th, 2010
9:45 am

Ok – Since I’m part of the 10% I’ll ask – what kept Slayton from flying?

Any of you remember when everyone would be herded into the school auditorium to watch the balstoffs and touchdowns?

GS29 – Sad state of affairs here. Reminds me of the time I was bored and watching some sutpid quizz show. Bimbo had no idea of a basic history question and had to have help, but, absolutely nailed the Desperate Housewife question (which I had absolutely no clue).

Red Light

July 13th, 2010
9:46 am

Sorry DWTOO, I was just pointing out that the KHL is a non entity in the grand scheme of things in the hockey world.

I have had an opportunity to think about the Sharks’ offer sheet for Niklas Hjalmarsson and am thrilled about the entire saga. Stan Bowman rode in on his father’s coattails. Yes, he paid a few dues along the way but this is a classic case of nepotism and trying to impose will on a franchise.

From the club’s website: “Bowman played an integral part in the recent major free agent signings of Marian Hossa, Tomas Kopecky and John Madden in 2009, and Brian Campbell and Cristobal Huet in 2008 while weighing in on the decision making that brought players such as Patrick Sharp, Kris Versteeg and Andrew Ladd to the club in trades.”

His dad was named senior advisor, hockey operations on July 31, 2008.

My point being, Tallon and Dudley lay most of the groundwork, and then the Bowmans come in looking like knights on a white charger when the Hawks win the Cup, taking credit for everything that transpired.

During the draft, I saw an interview with Tallon, and the TSN guy said Tallon was “the architect of Stanley Cup Champions,” to which Tallon said rather curtly, “Thank you.” It was as though he was surprised anyone remembered what he had done in Chicago, which is what I think the Bowmans wanted to have happen. They were the chosen ones by John McDonough IMO.

OK, so back to the Hjalmarsson offer sheet. Sharks had cap space and they knew the Hawks didn’t. It was fabulous use of leverage on Doug Wilson’s part, who ironically played 14 seasons for the Blackhawks before playing in San Jose his last two seasons as a player. The ass’t GM in San Jose, Wayne Thomas, played for Bowman the Elder in Montreal in the early 70s.

In the end, Wilson further weakens the Stanley Cup Champions roster, which was well within his rights to do so. But what I find really interesting is that Dudley improved his own roster and provided the Hawks with the ability to do what they wanted, to get draft picks, prospects, less expensive players and to free up cap space, whereas the conference rival tried to stick it to ‘em.

More of these kind of moves by conference rivals could be even more entertaining than the games.

Rawhide

July 13th, 2010
9:57 am

DWTOO – It was a heart murmur. He served as NASA’s director of flight crew operations after that…however, he was cleared to fly years later.

He did get to go to space in 1975 as the docking module pilot during the Apollo-Soyuz mission.

R. Stroz

July 13th, 2010
10:11 am

With the current state of NASA and it’s new stated objectives, the only semblance left will be history courses.

kracker

July 13th, 2010
10:16 am

Snooki?? No idea who this is. A rapper?

Rawhide

July 13th, 2010
10:19 am

New York Yankees owner George Steinbrenner dead at age 80.

3stripes

July 13th, 2010
10:39 am

There was an early buzz (Saturday maybe) about John Albert. Can anyone give an update?

The Smooth Spark

July 13th, 2010
10:45 am

From new assistant coach Mike Stothers: “The Thrashers organization is a first-class organization and I’m happy to be here.”

Somebody please alert Ilya Kovalchuk, Slava Kozlov and Colby Armstrong along with posters SoB, LAC, EastPointBob etc and the AJC press-corps of opinion mongering, Bradley and Schultzie, the Thrashers REALLY ARE a first-class organization!! Who knew??

Red Light

July 13th, 2010
10:47 am

3stripes

He will almost assuredly be going back to Ohio State for his senior season. As Rawhide told us, he looked really good over the weekend but probably doesn’t project as a “keeper” at this point. He could be a 2011-12 prospect, but more likely 2012-13 after a full year of professional hockey after graduation.

Brendan

July 13th, 2010
10:52 am

I don’t know who Snooki is either. And, upon blogger advice, I’m glad I don’t. But I do remember gathering in a school assembly for a space launch and, occasionally, a landing. I remember the Challenger explosion all too well. Back in those days, we didn’t sit around the breakfast table saying, “Oh look, a space shuttle exploded, killing everyone. Pass the sugar.” We’re so desensitized to tragedy, that the SEARS Tower could come crumbling down and people in America might say, “Pfft. We’ve seen this, before. Can’t the terrorists come up with anything new? This copycat stuff is for the birds. Are you gonna eat that biscuit? ‘Cuz if not, give it here. MMMMMM.”

Red Light, I think it was James Duffie who complimented Tallon on his work building the Stanley Cup champions. Tallon seemed ‘appreciative’ that someone was willing to point that out. On TV. I can’t say as I blame him. Tallon’s approach has been one of, “If you want out of South Florida, that can be arranged.” And off went Nathan Horton. And if Stephen Weiss says the same thing, I suspect he’d be moved, as well.

WBF, Campbell might wind up with a better deal than Kovy. It’s possible. I personally think Kovlachuk’s eventual deal with be a cap hit of $8.5 or better. But, I really, truly wouldn’t blame Kovalchuk to do some one-year deal with either L.A. or Detroit … just to see if he can win that Cup next year. I’ve said it before, “There’s nothing Kovy cannot buy in life, except a living, breathing pet dinosaur for his daughter.” So, … what difference would it make if Kovy signed with Detroit for $4.5 million, just to see if might result in a Cup? What’s the harm? He’s 27. He’ll be 28, and a UFA next year. GM’s will still be just as interested in him then as they are now. Kovy’s PRIME YEARS still very much lay ahead. He hasn’t, and won’t lose a step in a year or so. Ilya Kovalchuk may not be a complete player, but he is, per Mario Lemieux, “the best pure sniper in the NHL.” I don’t disagree. Kovalchuk has amazing shooting skill, and the skating ability that is necessary to compliment it.

Rawhide

July 13th, 2010
10:52 am

3stripes – What Red Light said….

3stripes

July 13th, 2010
10:55 am

Cool. Thanks, guys.

Brendan

July 13th, 2010
10:56 am

Rawhide, OMG. I knew Steinbrenner was getting up there, but I didn’t know he was 80. At least the Yankees won one last title before his passing.

The Smooth Spark

July 13th, 2010
11:04 am

“At least the Yankees won one last title before his passing.”

Yes, because six wasn’t enough before that. ;-) It will be interesting to see if his son ends up destroying the Yankees with his knuckle-headed decision-making.

R. Stroz

July 13th, 2010
11:07 am

The Smooth Spark – What did you expect him to say?

So, who put a sock in Grossman’s mouth? J.K. Sockey?

Anyone, one week without Grossman’s BS on twitter.

Man up Grossman, you screwed your client.

The Smooth Spark

July 13th, 2010
11:13 am

Huh? Are you referring to the Stothers quote?

It was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek humor. I wasn’t serious.

C’mon, you know me better than that!

Dwayne

July 13th, 2010
11:13 am

Isn’t Alan Sheppard the guy who threw hambuger meat, mashed taters and cheese in a bowl and called it a pie?

Russ

July 13th, 2010
11:14 am

Smooth Spark – As long as baseball doesn’t institute a salary cap the Yankees will be fine. Being able to spend twice what anyone else does and 7-8 times what a lot of other teams do covers up most bad decisions. Teams like Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Oakland, etc are basically just minor league teams that develop talent for the Yankees/Red Sox/Mets of the world.

Dwayne

July 13th, 2010
11:15 am

Worst contact EVER….Don Wadells

Dwayne

July 13th, 2010
11:25 am

Tony C.

July 13th, 2010
11:28 am

Mr. T-That your boys could probably give a very interesting and informative lecture on our space explorers, I have no doubt.

I’m also wondering/hoping if this is the year we finally see the offer sheet come off the “no fair” list. Sure, it’s a an almost guaranteed way to make an enemy of a fellow GM, but hey, man isn’t it your job to ice the best squad you’re able to if you’re an NHL GM? If so, I wonder if Duds feels he’s got enough mojo to throw one down in front of Bobby Ryan? Because I think that’d be cool and that Ryan is the type of guy that Duds likes AND we need. I just don’t have as much faith in our O-ffence as it stands right now that Dudley apparently does.

Tony C.

July 13th, 2010
11:29 am

Ms. Trixie-Can you clean that up? 86 the italics I mean?

World Be Free

July 13th, 2010
11:34 am

Brendan on Campbell/Kovy contracts-

Soupie’s no movement clause tips the scales on his deal. I think Kovy’s contract will be an equally high cap hit, high enough that he will be impossible to move. Sports should eliminate all no-trade / no-movement clauses. Getting traded is part of any team sport and no player should be exempt from it.

Steinbrenner / “The Boss” is gone-talk about a guy that changed sports.

Spud Webb

July 13th, 2010
11:38 am

Koncack, If I rememember correctly, the pistons gave him the offer sheet, forcing the hawks to match or let him walk…thus making him a giant roll of charmin and a rich sob.
RedLight, lay off Vanek! Edmonton offered, we had to show the fans (agree or not) up in Buffalo that we’re a legit franchise (insert joke there) & we matched it. The Koncack affect. D&mmit.
RIP for the Boss, love or hate him the guy is a legend.

Spud Webb

July 13th, 2010
11:40 am

As far as other bad contracts, what about that David Beckham character, isn’t he ripping off that LA team? Torn achilles & drama with Donovan, for 10 million or so???????????

The Smooth Spark

July 13th, 2010
11:42 am

WBF – I agree with you on NTC. This AIN’T the real world. Athletes need to get over it and realize they are the privileged few. If they can’t deal with moving a few times throughout their careers as a twenty-something, then that’s their problem. I moved for jobs several times in my twenties on my own accord so what’s the big deal? You’re getting paid millions of dollars to play a game and you should be set for life if you manage your money wisely. Should not be hard to do.

Yes, the “Boss” changed sports quite a bit. Not sure if it was for the better or not. And that’s coming from someone that USED to be a die-hard Yankees fan growing up. RIP

kracker

July 13th, 2010
11:44 am

The guy that changed sports was Curt Flood (and Marvin Miller) by challenging baseball’s reserve clause. The ensuing legal battles and controversy ultimately resulted in the reserve clause going bye-bye and players were able to shop their skills to the higest bidder.

If you love the free agency system, buy some Curt Flood memorabilia.

Red Light

July 13th, 2010
11:51 am

Alright Spud Webb, I’m getting a little sick and tired of a hoops name on Rawhide’s blog, so I’m suggesting a new, more catchy one, and a more suitable hockey moniker like…former Sabres left wing, Morris Titanic.

As far as Vanek is concerned, he leads the league in feigned injuries. Must have played soccer as a child.

Hockey Steve

July 13th, 2010
11:53 am

“It will be interesting to see if his son ends up destroying the Yankees with his knuckle-headed decision-making.”

One can only hope… =)

Hockey Biltong

July 13th, 2010
11:56 am

Let’s watch Boston, to see what happens there…

World Be Free

July 13th, 2010
12:15 pm

Red Light-you must have borrowed Mr. Peabody’s Way-Back Machine on this one-Morris Titanic!? Talk about a total BUST! One of the few busts of the Punch Imlach era-the guy could not skate, which makes it tough to stay in the NHL.

Kracker-totally agree on Curt Flood and Marvin Miller, they both changed Baseball and were significant contributors in sports. Steinbrenner changed all of sports by being the first owner to really want to spend money to win. Many people dislike the Yankees for the free-senders they have become, but we would all love to have an owner in any sports that was so dedicated to winning. He made mistakes, threw money at bad players and gave up young talent that turned out to be stars. But he always wanted to win. I think he bought the Yankees for $14M; my guess is they are worth a little more today.

The Smooth Spark

July 13th, 2010
12:15 pm

Morris Titanic?? Wow, that’s some name! How did I miss that one being a Sabres’ fan. Must not have played very long?

R. Stroz

July 13th, 2010
12:21 pm

The Smooth Spark – Sorry, there are some things you can’t see through a blog post.

Trixie (Rawhide's Secretary)

July 13th, 2010
12:27 pm

Mr. Tony C. – Italic mess cleaned up for you sir. You will have to pay more attention in my next Text Enhancement class. Honestly, I thought you would have the last time… given the fact that Mr. Rawhide told me how interested you were in my enhancements.

Tony C.

July 13th, 2010
12:30 pm

Who would you send to Philly for Gagne? Right now they’re $1.4M over the cap with several players left to sign…

World Be Free

July 13th, 2010
12:30 pm

If my memory serves me right Titanc was the Sabres’ 1st pick in the ‘76 draft. I believe he played 19 games with no goals and no assists. and that my friends is a bust in any era.

Tony C.

July 13th, 2010
12:32 pm

…thanks…

World Be Free

July 13th, 2010
12:33 pm

I won’t go for Gagne. Injury prone, 1 year left on his contract at $5.25 mil. Philly needs to dump him to sign a goalie, maybe. So why help Philly or any Eastern Conference team who has cap issues? Just my thoughts.

Spud Webb

July 13th, 2010
12:35 pm

Steinbrenner bought the yanks with investors, 8.75 million. WOW
I’m also not familiar with Morris, but now I will look him up! Didn’t hurt too bad RLight!

World Be Free

July 13th, 2010
12:52 pm

We should ask Dudley and Ramsay about Titanic, since they played in Buffalo about the same time. Morris was they guy Sabres’ fans hoped would take them to the Cup; I was wrong about the year, 1973 not 1976.

http://www.bestofwny.com/sports/lukow/titanic.htm

What a name to go through life with. Fortunatly, his mother didn’t name him Adolf.

glovesave29

July 13th, 2010
12:57 pm

I would not sent anyone to Philly for a oft-injured player with just one year left on the contract.

That is a classic – Morris Titanic. I mean, how often is a word both a players name AND a description of his career. I can see it now…”with the first pick in the 1999 draft, the Atlanta Thrashers select Patrik Futurebust”

I don’t mind free agency – but then there should be no NTC’s. If the owners talk it is collusion…if the players talk it is a union (dont get me started there!). The playing field needs to be levelled. I also have no problem with non guaranteed contracts, or the ability to re-negotiate a contract mid-stream. Owners need to be able to reign in costs, and get out from under bad decisions. Bowman should be able to tell Campbell, “Well Brian, I’d love to keep ya, but we need to renegotiate this deal, or we are sending you to the Islanders.”

Tom Lysiak

July 13th, 2010
1:05 pm

Since the conversation of bad contracts is covering other sports too… you gotta mention JaMarcus Russell. $61 million contract, $32 million guaranteed. Three year record as a starter, 7-18. Currently out of football and actively acquiring the ingredients for “purple drank”….allegedly.

Wee Willie

July 13th, 2010
1:08 pm

Trixie, will you be offering Male Enhancement classes?

kracker

July 13th, 2010
1:12 pm

Wee Willie, check your junk email folder….

World Be Free

July 13th, 2010
1:12 pm

Tom-how could we forget JaMarcus and his alleged new drink of choice.

schroeder

July 13th, 2010
1:15 pm

The biggest thought on guaranteed contracts that comes to mind are Zhitnik and A CERTAIN #12 that I dare not speak his name. This is my prime arguements for NO GUARANTEED CONTRACTS!!! Lets see a show of hands,how many of you have one? Anyone? Anyone? ….. “Bueller, Bueller”

Wee Willie

July 13th, 2010
1:15 pm

Don’t need too, I see boarder line “junk” e-mails are only allowed for a selected few.

ChippersLoveChild

July 13th, 2010
1:28 pm

My observation was watching Eric Boulton sitting their watching the players on Sunday… must be scouting out who will be making him sit in the press box this year ;)

schroeder

July 13th, 2010
1:34 pm

NTC’s on the other hand,are a tough call.I think that each player should have the right of first refusal, or a list of teams that he would consider.Elimination of ntc would border on the changing the Curt Flood decision. The balance between the players holding owners hostage versus the owners viewing players as mere “owned property” is a delicate situation,but now it seems the balance of control has decidedly shifted from the owners of the ’60s to the players of today. The answer to this is way above my pay grade. I do not advocate players becoming endentured servants of the owners,by the same token the CBA has created this mess and I am thankful that it has not put us in the same mess that Chicago is now facing. But,guaranteed contracts IMO don’t work. Anybody need a soapbox,I’m done.

ChippersLoveChild

July 13th, 2010
1:40 pm

“Irony

Campbell used the Thrashers to get a huge contract from the Blackhawks. The Thrashers used Campbell’s contract to take a quarter of the Blackhawks team.”

This made me laugh, nice post, R. Stroz.

Red Light

July 13th, 2010
1:41 pm

Morris outscored Eric Vail when they played together for the Sudbury Wolves as a 19-year-old. He had 61 goals and 60 assists in his last year in junior, He was the 12th overall pick in the 1973 NHL draft, when the Sabres could have taken Rick Middleton, Darcy Rota, Ian Turnbull or Vail instead.

Can’t blame that one on Regier!!!

rob

July 13th, 2010
2:09 pm

Chipper,
If the guys are getting bigger and meaner, he may end up facing a few in camp so he needs to see what he can expect.
On another note Cormier’s case rest for Sept. Think it would be beneficial to him and the team to get it done now instead of dragging it into the start of camp as added distraction IMO. Unless he is hoping it is dropped??

Hockey Biltong

July 13th, 2010
2:35 pm

I believe Boston will unload, in a similar fashion to Chicago… maybe not as many players,but perhaps there is a quality pickup for Le Thrash.
I’m just sayin’

World Be Free

July 13th, 2010
2:35 pm

Red Light-nice numbers, yeah we knew Titanic was a fine junior player when drafted. His game didn’t translate to the NHL. Very happy that this was one of Punch Imlach’s few mistakes. I never mentioned Imlach and Regier’s names in the same sentence. They hold the same job, but that is where the similarities end believe me. Punch drafted Rammer and signed Dudley, he was a real hockey man.

I am old school when it comes to NTC. They shouldn’t exist; sign your contract and play to it or get cut/traded. Isn’t bad enough that the contracts are guaranteed? Team before the player not the player before the team. Curt Flood just wanted the reserve clause removed.

R. Stroz

July 13th, 2010
2:53 pm

Here’s a thought:

Did the Thrashers keep Bolts to teach Cormier the proper code for tough guy conduct?

glovesave29

July 13th, 2010
4:05 pm

Schroeder…removing NTC’s would not be same as going back to the days of the reserve clause. Players today, once they are through with contracts, and have met all of the stipulations, are free agents and are therefore free to sign wherever they please. Prior to the Curt Flood decision, players rights were owned in perpetuity by the club that initially signed them, or until such time as that player was traded to another team.

Flames

July 13th, 2010
7:14 pm

Chipperslovechild- That wasn’t the reason Boulton was at the Ice Forum. His two sons were having hockey practice on the other rink. I spoke to Boults and he really likes Cormier/Eager. He can’t wait for the season to start. Duds loves Boults toughness. Duds is putting together another version of the Broad Street Bullies.

Jack

July 13th, 2010
7:25 pm

Thanks Flames. Reading the chatter, serious of clubs are waiting for the kovalchuk signing process to end, before making there own signings. Are you hearing the same?

Pittsburgh Pirate Fan

July 13th, 2010
7:35 pm

Not much from Sage these days.
I miss his posts; I need something to laugh at.

Flames

July 13th, 2010
7:59 pm

Jack-That is what I’m hearing as well. I think everything is kind of on hold. Rumors are the Kovy will go to L.A.

Smoothie- I know that Sharpe’s name is being thrown around a lot lately. Torch is very very high on Sharpe. That would be real nice pick up for us.

Rawhide- is right that I don’t see Duds giving up Cormier for him, but there is other prospects and draft picks.

Alan R.

July 13th, 2010
8:39 pm

“not confirmed yet but hearing that Kovalchuk to Kings is dead, this time for good. the reason: Kovalchuk wouldn’t compromise on money.”

From Helene Elliot’s twitter.

Smitty

July 13th, 2010
8:41 pm

I remember Morris Titanic as a jr playing for the Niagara Falls Flyers in the OHA. Played with an edge as a junior and he had a pretty good offensive side. Pretty obvious he did not turn out to be worthy of a first round pick. As many have mentioned, it is a hit or miss on many of these kids. I wonder if any of our statistic gurus have the prcentages of first round picks that make it to the bigs.

World Be Free

July 13th, 2010
9:10 pm

Smitty-the big difference between today and the 70’s was that players were draft at 20 years old; that’s 2 more years to grow as a player, physically too. Even so, there were enough duds (not to be confused with Dudley) drafted back then that did not make The Hockey Show. I did not see Titanic in juniors but heard he was pretty good.

I just wonder how much Sharp is going to cost, if he is the guy traded? How about taking Campbell and his contract-for nothing? Or take Campbell and Chicago’s #1 next year for nothing? Giving up and number one pick to get rid of Campbell’s contract is better for the Black Hawks than losing another core player in exchange for a possible/future player.

Tom Lysiak

July 13th, 2010
9:17 pm

Flames, any idea what might be the price for Sharp? I’ll take the heat for this, but I would be very interested only for the right price. Sharp is a tremendous player and would add much needed talent, experience and legitimacy to the team. But, we have already parted with some highly regarded prospects and next year’s 2nd rounder. I also understand the edict is to win now. But, I want to keep some of the future too. I know you can’t have players of his caliber for nothing, but I want them to walk that tightrope carefully. Let the bashing begin…..

Tom Lysiak

July 13th, 2010
9:18 pm

WBF, sorry but I was eating and taking my time typing. Didn’t mean to pile on yours.

Flames

July 13th, 2010
10:33 pm

Tom-I think it will take to much to get him. Probable a 1st round draft pick and a prospect. This may be the difference between making the playoffs and going deep in the playoffs. There is some major decisions being made. They want him, but at what costs. It would be nice to get him. I haven’t heard that L. A. pulled out of negotiations with Kovy

Hockey Biltong

July 13th, 2010
10:42 pm

What about David Krejci[sp?] from Boston???

Tom Lysiak

July 13th, 2010
10:44 pm

Flames, thanks for the reply. I totally agree that it would be nice to get him. I just don’t want to overpay and completely mortgage the future. I would not be opposed to incremental improvements over what has been assembled thus far. Just my humble opinion….

Flames

July 13th, 2010
10:59 pm

TOM-ASG wants the team to win now. I’m really not sure if Duds is going to completely sell out to win this year. I just don’t see him doing that. He wants to be here awhile. Plus he has surrounded himself with his people. I think we will add one more piece to the team. I’m waiting to hear if Kovy agent contacts the team.

R. Stroz

July 13th, 2010
11:02 pm

I think Todd White would look really good in a Blackhawks uniform.

R. Stroz

July 13th, 2010
11:04 pm

I’m waiting to hear if Kovy agent contacts the team.

Flames – That would be very interesting.

Jack

July 13th, 2010
11:15 pm

Todd White would look great in a Rangers uniform :)

Tom Lysiak

July 13th, 2010
11:16 pm

“I’m really not sure if Duds is going to completely sell out to win this year. I just don’t see him doing that. He wants to be here awhile. Plus he has surrounded himself with his people.”

Flames – I hope you are correct. Reminds me of a previous trade of a young defenseman for an old defenseman, in order to win then. While that old defenseman might have provided some immediate help, we all know how the story ended.

Flames

July 13th, 2010
11:32 pm

With all the trades and signings We are still a young team. I think Jack/R Stroz favorite player Mr. White is the old man on the team at 35.

Jack

July 13th, 2010
11:43 pm

Well the fact that I hate the Rangers, plays in it too. Of course I would not mind Savard coming back, however the chances are slim and none, and slim just left for the beach.

litz

July 13th, 2010
11:56 pm

Increasingly, at least from Dudley on down, the Thrashers are indeed looking more and more like a 1st class organization. Ownership is most definitely still a circus …. but …. if they’re too busy sniping at each other to waste time screwing up the team, who are we to complain?

Dudley’s making moves, and so far, I think my only complaint is, why couldn’t we have done this 5 years ago?

Rawhide

July 14th, 2010
12:07 am

Todd White would look great in a [INSERT NAME OF ANY TEAM NOT NAMED "THRASHERS" HERE] uniform.

Jack & R. Stroz – There…I fixed that for you two.

Brendan

July 14th, 2010
12:09 am

Smoothie, if you think about it, Steinerbrenner spent how many billion between the World Series win in 2000 and the next one he finally got in 2010?

Brendan

July 14th, 2010
12:17 am

WBF, we saw how TB handled the NTC/NMC with Dan Boyle. They told him, flat-out, if you don’t waive your NTC, we’ll put you on waivers, and with six years left on your deal, you’ll be trapped on a bottom-feeder team. And there’s nothing Boyle could do about it. Other than what he did. And that was to accept the trade to San Jose. It was that, or BEG the team that claims him to trade him.

It’d be a pretty bad situation for Kovalchuk, if the team who signs him feels so badly about the contract they made with him, that they’d actually put him on waivers, down the road. How hilarious would it be … if some team waives Kovalchuk and Atlanta reclaims him? Okay, look. That’s not gonna happen. But I’d laugh, if it did. Then again, if Kovy were doing that badly, that a team’s only option with him was to waive him, then something went terribly wrong with his skills, and I’m not too sure it’d be wise to claim him, at what would be a hefty price tag.

Brendan

July 14th, 2010
12:34 am

Last I heard on Simon Gagne, he changed his mind about waiving his NTC. But, there was a time he was amenable to that during this offseason. I have no idea what team he had in mind, but he must have had some team in mind, or he wouldn’t have tempoararily decided to waive it.

I would think that the asking price for Gagne will be steep. I don’t anticipate the Flyers moving Gagne at the trade deadline. I see Philly as a playoff team next season. And because of that, he’ll stay in Philadelphia, at least through the year. Okay, look. If the wheels fall off, that changes things. Of course, they’ll move him then. Maybe even in a ‘rental’ situation. If I were the Flyers, I’d try to lock up Simon Gagne for at least another 3-4 years. He’s still relatively young. And just look what he did in the playoffs this year.

I don’t think Atlanta could get into trade discussions with Philly. We’re not close enough to be making a run at the Cup. And rent him for all of one year, at the cost of a 1st and 3rd, plus a prospect or some other conditional draft pick, is not the way a team that’s still building should proceed.

World Be Free

July 14th, 2010
5:39 am

White to the Rangers-that might be a possibility if you look at the contract the Rangers just gave Booghard.

Tom-getting Sharp would be a very good thing.

Biltong-I think Krejci is off limits with the Broones; he would be if I ran the club.

Red Light

July 14th, 2010
7:50 am

Happy Bastille Day!

Krejci is definitely off limits. Philly’s price for Gagne keeps going down because of his cap hit number. They need to shed money and he’s a much cheaper alternative to Sharp in terms of what you’d have to give up to get him, and I don’t think it’s anywhere near what Brendan suggests.

Seems like the NHL has become very strange in terms of contracts. They’re either really long-term deals or one-year deals. The most ridiculous one? A one-year deal with a no-trade clause.

I think Moose got one of those. What, 60 days in another city is too much to ask for him to pocket $1.5 million? Amazing. He’s a career back-up. What’s he done to deserve a NTC? He’ll be in Jersey seven months. Hell, I lasted 17 years there. Where else can you go and identify yourself with an exit number. Moose: You’re exit 14!

World Be Free

July 14th, 2010
8:06 am

Brendan-I did not realize the Lightning forced Boyle out of Tampa Bay, only months after signing him to a long term deal when he could have been an unrestricted free agent. TB may consider that as good business, but it is bad player relations. We keep talking about making Atlanta a preferred destination for free agents. Part of that comes with winning (like Detroit), the other part of the equation is treating players correctly. The Slava Kozlov situation could have been real ugly, but both sides, management and Slava handled it pretty well-in my opinion. You can’t underestimate the power of chatter between players and agents when it comes to picking a new city.

Kovy has painted himself into an unfavorable situation. The “painting” started months ago with his approached the Thrashers and their fans. He kept saying he wanted to be here when in truth, he did everything he could to get out o here. Other general managers took note of his double talk, which is why he is where he is today. Waddell gets most of the blame here, but you have to also include the Kovalchuk camp – it takes two to tango.

I just don’t like no-trade clauses and I wouldn’t sign players who insisted on them. Pay the players well and make them work every day.

Darryl Sutter

July 14th, 2010
8:10 am

Enough of the “Todd White will look good in so-and-so’s uniform”! I am trading Iggy to secure the invaluable services of Mr. White and placing him on a line with Jokinen and Tanguay.

Badger Bob

July 14th, 2010
8:18 am

My favorite quote on players contracts comes from John Schuerholz. When asked about giving a young player a mid-season raise because of his outstanding play, he says something like “The day a guy having a crappy season comes in my office and requests a pay cut is the day I renegotiate a players contract because he’s having a good season.”

Jay Feaster

July 14th, 2010
8:28 am

Oh, do you don’t Darryl, I AM in charge here now!

rob

July 14th, 2010
8:29 am

So the Kovy drama is holding up a bunch of deals as we all wait to see where he lands……sad that players today see the money as so much a part of it. How many MILLIONS and MILLIONS of dollars are enough for one man and his family? He can’t go to a winning team and demand so much money over a long time….there will be none for the rest and he will be right back where he started, a one horse show figure skating around and getting nothing accomplished other than a few nice goals. Unless he just whores himself out to teams for a season or two at a time….

rob

July 14th, 2010
8:31 am

Tom,
I agree Sharp would be a nice pickup but at what cost? Obviously he won’t be cheap…..and maybe it’s just me but I think we have enough players from Chicago now. We obviously needed a major overhaul purging the team of players who did not fit a mold Duds envisions but I don’t want it to seem as though we took all our players from Duds old team and transferred them here. I wouldn’t mind rolling with what we have now and seeing where it gets us. If it is obviously not working then look at other parts being brought in but I think we have a good group that should make for a very entertaining season that brings HOCKEY back to the ATL.

Red Light

July 14th, 2010
8:38 am

I’ve got one in purgatory from about 45 minutes ago. Help Trixie!

rob

July 14th, 2010
8:39 am

Trixie,
Can you help me out? I think I know what caused it but wasn’t thinking when I wrote it. How about “soliciting” instead? LOL

Badger Bob

July 14th, 2010
8:49 am

NHL article on Burmistrov – nothing new, but a good read (sorry if it’s been posted already):

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=534317

Trixie (Rawhide's Secretary)

July 14th, 2010
8:57 am

Mr. Red Light & Mr. rob - Your posts have been freed from Blog Purgatory.

Red Light

July 14th, 2010
9:07 am

Merci beaucoup!

rob

July 14th, 2010
9:13 am

Trixie,
Thank you ma’am, no need for the “Mr.” part though, only my kids friends call me that :)

World Be Free

July 14th, 2010
9:15 am

On contracts-Ricky Henderson was once asked why negotiations were so difficult on his new contract-his response was-

“I don’t know why, I am only asking for what I want”. Seems reasonable-Ricky “I am the greatest” and he is also very humble.

Sparky Anderson once stated that he wanted an entire lineup made of players in the last year of their contracts.

Badger Bob

July 14th, 2010
9:26 am

WBF – gotta love Sparky! Keeping them on a short-term leash certainly has some appeal. Along those lines, looking at 2011 team salaries has to make Flames fans even madder – $50M already committed to just 14 guys for a mediocre line up! Not much chance to remake that team for a couple more years…

World Be Free

July 14th, 2010
9:48 am

Badger-does this mean we might even hear a fan boo at a Calgary Flames game? Doesn’t happen too much-Flames fans need to get angry and demand change. Calgary is like some other Canadian cities-fans show up no matter how bad the product is and do not demand change. Fans invest int he team, time and money and should receive value for their entertainment dollar. Time to get off the soap box.

The Smooth Spark

July 14th, 2010
10:05 am

“Smoothie, if you think about it, Steinerbrenner spent how many billion between the World Series win in 2000 and the next one he finally got in 2010?”

Brendan – so true, so true. Much easier to be a Yankees fan when they won titles in ‘96 and ‘98 mostly with their own prospects like Jeter, Bernie, Rivera, Girardi, Posada etc. But then again, they had their fair share of free agents like Key, Cone, Boomer, Brosius, Knobby etc. However, they weren’t buying every top-flight free-agent out there at the time…they seemed more selective than after the title in 2000. Of course, once Clemens became a Yankee, I was done. Hated him.

Flames – so sorry I didn’t know you’d be at prospect camp, but then again, we need to protect the identity of our resident mole! I’m glad to hear we are interested in Sharp should he become available. And how could you not be if you’re the Thrashers!? To heck with 1st rounders if that’s what it takes. Sharp is a PLAYER. If we get him, you’ve got to think we are a near lock for the playoffs and then what are we really giving up if the 1st round pick is in the 2nd half of the draft? Like you said, they want to win now. And if Duds gets them in the playoffs and wins a series, then he’ll probably have enough leverage to become our GM in perpetuity!! Do whatever it takes to get Sharp as long as it doesn’t cost Kulda, Postma or Burmistrov.

Adam

July 14th, 2010
10:08 am

“I wouldn’t mind rolling with what we have now and seeing where it gets us. If it is obviously not working then look at other parts being brought in but I think we have a good group that should make for a very entertaining season that brings HOCKEY back to the ATL.”

Rob – The problem with that decision is that by the time we know it’s not working the player(s) we could have pursued will be under contract somewhere else already. Teams will have to be under the cap by opening night. So any deals we make will need to be made by then, or sooner to get full benefit of camp.

The Smooth Spark

July 14th, 2010
10:13 am

“Where else can you go and identify yourself with an exit number. Moose: You’re exit 14!”

R/L – that was priceless. Bet you don’t miss those jug handles!!

Badger Bob

July 14th, 2010
10:22 am

WBF – You are right that there’s no chance of booing or boycott in Calgary (or TO or Edmonton, for that matter). Just lots of grumbling. Sagebrush would go absolutely NUTS in those markets! Perhaps the lack of “need” to perform is partly responsible for the lack of recent Stanley Cup champions up north.

Get The Puck Out

July 14th, 2010
10:27 am

Well –There’re at it again. Quebec City says they are going to get a new Nordieque team. GUESS WHO? On hockeyindependent.com they say an offer of 180 million has been put on the table. Check it out.

TableHockey

July 14th, 2010
10:27 am

I think tomorrow (the 15th) the deadline for our RFA to accept the offers that are on the table? Can anyone confirm that?

Tom Lysiak

July 14th, 2010
10:29 am

rob – Agreed. But again, if the price is right, go for it. While we got some great assets from the Hawks, it seemed like we paid a hefty price. Not what some envisioned as the “fire sale” that would be required to give them the cap relief they needed. What scares me is Sharp is arguably the “pick of the litter”. With several teams interested, the price might get ridiculous. Determine his real worth to the organization, and don’t exceed that price in a bidding war. Admittedly, from a mere fan’s point of view…..

The Smooth Spark

July 14th, 2010
10:31 am

TH – yes tomorrow is the deadline for accepting QO’s. But most of them don’t and negotiations begin in earnest to avoid arbitration which starts on the 20th and runs through August 4th I believe. Last year we signed our RFA’s right after prospect camp so expect some activity towards the end of the week. Pavelec and Little may take longer.

TableHockey

July 14th, 2010
10:34 am

thanks Spark!

Tony C.

July 14th, 2010
10:34 am

Looks like Sterling has found a new home… I hope it works out for the guy-I always felt he was mis-used when he was called up here.

Tom Lysiak

July 14th, 2010
10:37 am

Trixie, did I lose one in blog purgatory or is it lost in space?? Thanks

World Be Free

July 14th, 2010
10:44 am

The Yankees got back in the World Series hunt when they rebuilt their farm system. Steinbrenner and company got in alotta trouble during portions of the 70’s and 80’s by always trying to go for the quick fix, letting guys like Willie McGee go in exchange for washed-up vets. George got out of the way (as much as he could)and let the baseball people develop players like Phil Hughes, to compliment the free agents. Baseball and hockey require sound scouting, drafting and farm systems for success.

The Smooth Spark

July 14th, 2010
10:52 am

Just for reference, here are the dates on which we announced the re-signing of our RFA’s last summer:

7/15 – Lehtonen, 1 yr $3.0 M

7/16 – Armstrong, 1 yr $2.4 M

7/17 – Lehman, Lewis & Stapleton (all RFA’s) re-signed to 1 year deals

7/20 – Evander Kane signs his ELC (we can prolly expect Burmie to sign his sooner as he is slated to return to Russia after camp)

Rawhide

July 14th, 2010
10:54 am

GTPO – Sounds like a bored blogger to me. I mean…someone overheard someone while out at dinne? Whatev…

And now gang, for something only slightly off topic…All-Star Games determining home field advantage. Good idea or not?

The Smooth Spark

July 14th, 2010
10:54 am

Ooops, left off Vlabby. Boris re-upped on 7/21. So there you go. The next 7-8 days should prove to be quite busy for Dud-Wad and newsworthy for folks like us dying for some Thrashers news.

How many people here think we’re seriously considering Demitra?

Jack

July 14th, 2010
11:11 am

Rawhide since the nat’l league won and Braves are contender I would say yes. However I think the best record should determine who has home field advantage.