Approaching the Thrasherville summer solstice

Back on the tenth of April the Atlanta Thrashers finished off their 2009-10 NHL campaign with a 1-0 win over the then-defending Stanley Cup champion Pittsburgh Penguins. Looking forward, on October 8 they will open the coming season with a home game against the Washington Capitals who have won the Southeast Division three years running.

This means that in just a few days, we in Thrasherville will be right at the midpoint of our offseason…the Thrasherville solstice, as it were…marking the time equidistant from the end of the season last spring and the beginning of the new one this fall.

So where do the Thrashers stand at this sort of milestone in the middle of summer?

First off, three Thrashers RFAs filed for arbitration prior to Monday’s deadline…Clarke MacArthur, Ben Eager and Andrew Ladd. Last season these three players earned $1.4 million, $1.0 million and $1.6 million respectively.

Clarke MacArthur scored 3 goals and 6 assists in 21 games since the Thrashers traded for him last March. Monday the restricted free agent filed for salary arbitration (AP Photo/Chris O'Meara)

Clarke MacArthur scored 3 goals, 6 assists and was a -2 in 21 games since the Thrashers traded for him last March. Monday the restricted free agent filed for salary arbitration (AP Photo/Chris O'Meara)

Eager and Ladd have yet to play a single game in a Thrashers uniform, having recently been traded for from Chicago. MacArthur came this way last March 3 from Buffalo in exchange for a third and fourth round draft pick.

It should be noted that no player in the franchise’s history has ever actually gone to an arbitration hearing…settling instead before getting the third party arbitrator involved. Just last season Colby Armstrong filed before agreeing to a one-year, $2.4 million contract. So we’ll see if Rick Dudley can continue that trend by getting them to put ink to paper in the coming days.

With that…and with the dust settling a bit from last Thursday’s start to UFA signing season…the Thrashers currently have the following players under contract.

Forwards: Nic Antropov, Evander Kane, Dustin Byfuglien, Todd White, Rich Peverley, Jim Slater and Chris Thorburn.

Defensemen: Ron Hainsey, Tobias Enstrom, Johnny Oduya, Zach Bogosian, Brent Sopel and Boris Valabik.

Goalie: Chris Mason.

Those player’s salaries bring the Thrasher cap hit to right at about $35 and a half million.

If you add in last year’s pay of the those who filed for arbitration as well as RFAs Bryan Little, Nic Bergfors and Ondrej Pavelec… that would add another $7 mil-plus to the payroll and bring the total cap number to just shy of $43 million.

It would also bring you to the exact number needed to ice a squad…12 forwards, 6 defenders and a pair of goalies. Toss in…say… an Arturs Kulda, a Patrice Cormier and a Spencer Machacek to round out the roster and now you’ve got players on the ice and healthy scratches in the press box.

Boris valabik and the Thrashers will likely see Ondrej Pavelec return to Atlanta's goal. The question is, will he start or backup up the recently acquired Chris Mason (AP Photo/John Amis)

Boris Valabik and the Thrashers will likely see Ondrej Pavelec return to Atlanta's goal, given the RFA did not file for arbitration. The question is, will he start or backup up the recently acquired Chris Mason? (AP Photo/John Amis)

You’d also have a payroll at about $45 million…give or take… and would leave Dudley and the Thrashers about $14 million below the cap. Of course, once we know what the RFA contracts are worth, those numbers will surely adjust.

As for putting together lineups from that list of players…rubbing chin, adjusting glasses, tapping pencil on desk…I guess up front you could do something like Bergfors-Antropov-Little…Kane-Peverley-Byfuglien…Ladd-Slater-MacArthur…and Eager-Cormier-Thorburn. This would allow White and Machacek to sample the press box buffet spread. Maybe Machacek could play his way into the lineup and then we would see MacArthur park himself next to Todd.

Looking at that… I would really love to have Maxim Afinogenov back.

On defense, well…Hainsey-Enstrom…Oduya-Bogosian…Sopel-Kulda with Boris upstairs. I think the young Kulda would benefit greatly working with the veteran Sopel.

And finally…prospect camp at the Thrashers practice facility in Duluth will open up this Thursday and run through Tuesday the 13th. Here is a list of those expected to participate as well as the schedule. The on-ice sessions are open to the public and admission is free.

:!: UPDATE 7/6 9:45 pm: Eric Boulton re-signs with Thrashers…one year deal at $650,000. Last season he made $600,000. That’ll shuffle my projected lines a bit, eh?

202 comments Add your comment

Jack

July 6th, 2010
6:24 pm

. Firstlooks like we could make it work, even without Kubina. But bringing max back would be a plus

World Be Free

July 6th, 2010
6:34 pm

So what would it take to bring Max back? Time for Duds to talk about the future and what else can be done to round out this roster.

Red Light

July 6th, 2010
6:38 pm

Bill: Machachek and any other young player will never sit in the press box unless for a very short period of time. The Thrashers have proven that they won’t keep any young player under the age of 25 here and “healthy scratch” them. It’s counterproductive to their development, in their minds at least, when they can play every day in the minors.

In terms of Pav’s arbitration, I don’t think he’s eligible. It is my understanding, that a player who signs a standard player contract (SPC) at the age of 18 or 19, must have four years of professional experience (10 NHL games per season) before becoming eligible for arbitration. Including bonuses, last year he made $1.7 million. I expect him to get a similar deal.

And, guys don’t worry about Todd White. If he doesn’t fit by September, he’ll be waived, the cheapest of alternatives. He might be playing in the AHL with former Senators teammate Wade Redden (hopefully).

Your lines look pretty good, but Dudley keeps hinting that Cormier will play center. We’ll see soon. I still say the six RFAs will cost the Thrashers circa $12-13 million.

Sunday looks like the perfect day to be in Duluth! Hope to see you there.

Jack

July 6th, 2010
6:45 pm

Thanks Red light on the pav information

Hockey Biltong

July 6th, 2010
6:51 pm

I thought Mac would be better. He didn’t suck out loud, but he didn’t give me that “he’s a keeper”, feel either. Blame it on the coach, the system, whatever, if we can package him and White outta here for a solid player with some upside, then by all means we should do it.
Bill, I’m with you on Max. He is an interesting wild card.I just don’t see offering him more than 2/3 years.I’m guessing he wants more.
I believe we are still in the hunt for a Frolov type O guy and a cherry pick dman from an over capped team. Just a matter of time before we figure out who has to unload from getting K’chuk..

Hockey Biltong

July 6th, 2010
6:55 pm

Oh and ESPN can take a flying *&^% through a rolling doughnut for saying absolutey nothing about hockey during one of it’s more exciting moments of the year…

World Be Free

July 6th, 2010
6:58 pm

MacArthur was marginally successful in Buffalo under Lindy; I am hoping The General gets his act together under Rammer. I agree with you Biltong, he didn’t suck out load, but it is clear that is not one aspect of his game that sticks out. He’s not unique, just a 3rd or 4rth liner that will struggle on a good team. And I think we will be a good team this year.

Rawhide-is the Torchetti thing dead now? This looked like a done deal and that has moved to barely alive.

Bring back Max!

World Be Free

July 6th, 2010
7:17 pm

I have divorced ESPN after 20+ years, took them off my Blackberry. Screw them

Red Light

July 6th, 2010
7:41 pm

Guys I couldn’t be happier about the anti-ESPN/Disney sentiments. Just let me point out one major thing: They single-handedly want control of all thing sports. And guess what absolutely no one seems to remember: they dictate time, place and most of all money. When all things media have suffered over the past few years, they are seemingly recession proof, and MLB, NFL, FIFA, NASCAR, the NCAA, etc. etc. etc. are to blame. ESPN is nothing more than a bookie with a lot more glamor. They spend money on content and then sell that content to the idiots who keep buying commercials on their monopoly of stations.

Wake up and smell the coffee. They are robbing you blind and eventually it will come back to haunt you. It already is haunting the sports consumer. Check your cable or satellite bill.

Brendan

July 6th, 2010
7:49 pm

I think I stopped watching ESPN SportsCenter in 2003. I get just as good, if not better coverage from the Internet. I find ESPN to be “too New York-Centric.” They should just call that channel, ESPN-NY. Their biases are on full display. Like any news channel, they claim to be the informational leader, and to be impartial. Yeah, anyone buyin’ that line, in 2010? Their shows and channel exist to make money for its ownership and/or to sway public sentiment.

Rawhide, I loved this blog topic. I think we’re at about $45 million right now, including bonuses, if the RFA players salaries are figured into the equasion. I don’t know where FUBAS will set their internal cap, but I’m thinking somewhere around $49 to $50.5 million. I’d feel a whole lot better about $55 million, since the cap limit is $59.5 million. If it really is $49 million, at least until the trade deadline, that’s at least $5.5 million over the FLOOR of the cap.

Now, let me ask you ALLL something … and I appreciate an HONEST response. If you were the GM, or Dudley, how would you FEEL about having to compete with the other 14 clubs in the East … at a team cap payroll $9-$10 million below the cap limit? ($49.5 million, for example, is $10 million BELOW the ceiling of $59.5 million.)

Are you doing cartwheels yet? Or, are you thinking, “Don’t expect playoffs with this budget?” See, with Waddell, I’m guessing that he sat there with this statement to ownership, “Oh yeah. No worries. We’ll get in the playoffs at the floor, or just above it. We can get this done on a shoestring budget. You can count on 2-games’ worth of playoff revenue.” And ownership probably sat there, mulling it over, then saying, “Good enough, Don,” while thinking, “At least we’re not blowing a budget for no playoffs. We’ve covered either way. We didn’t spend, and we’ll get revenue-sharing dollars, if we aren’t a playoff team. And if we are, so much the better.”

There’s no doubt in my mind we could afford Max. I think the issue with Finny is the length of the contract. GM’s like Max on a 1-year. GM’s kinda like Max on a 2-year deal. GM’s have seen Max on a 3-year deal, and it isn’t pretty. That’s probably why he’s un-signed. They’re waiting for desperation to kick in. They might wait all the way to September.

Re: Andy Sutton … last time around, Sutton waited ’til August for Waddell to reach out to his agent, before Mandy finally figured out we weren’t interested in him, and the Islanders turned into his best option at 3-years/$9 million. Somebody will sign him. When late August/early September rolls around, and teams start weighing their options, Sutton will get contract. He’ll have to take what he can get. Or play in Europe.

World Be Free

July 6th, 2010
8:12 pm

Totally agree guys on ESPN. They were first class way back when, but the good reporters have been replaced by the screaming idiots. Brian Kinney is the ONLY reporter on ESPN worth watching, but he is starting to change now too. All the garbage going on in the NBA, the “star player” BS is all ESPN driven.

Brendan-ESPN’s world evolves around NY, NBA, the Dallas Cowboys and the Washington Redskins. Not that I have anything against these 2 teams, but there’s more going on in the sports world today. But they do control mainstream sports reporting, Ask Tommy Tubberville who openly critisized ESPN 2 years ago and has been effectively blackballed by the network.

Our Cap-it will be around $50M, about $10M below the ceiliong. Nashville seems to able to field a competitive team (in the West no less) spending about that. It is what it is, get a cross section of vets and young players, with a good coach and we may make some noise this season.

Getting Max back would be great-I didn’t say that 1 year ago!

Rawhide

July 6th, 2010
8:14 pm

Bill: Machachek and any other young player will never sit in the press box unless for a very short period of time. The Thrashers have proven that they won’t keep any young player under the age of 25 here and “healthy scratch” them. It’s counterproductive to their development, in their minds at least, when they can play every day in the minors.

Red Light – Point taken. Like I said…maybe he could work his way into the lineup replacing Mac. Put Max back in the lineup and we could move Spencer off.

Rawhide-is the Torchetti thing dead now? This looked like a done deal and that has moved to barely alive.

WBFshrugs…I dunno. I have barely heard a peep since the night we learned about Ramsay being named head coach. It’s been speculated $$$ was an issue. Also I’ve heard that the Blackhawks were not happy about him leaving to make a latteral move…although I’m not sure what, or if, there is anything they could do about it.

Brendan

July 6th, 2010
8:21 pm

Look how dead it is on the UFA market. http://tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=25880. Ummn, who got Nabakov? Still no definitive word on the Kovalchuk contract.

ThrashDawg

July 6th, 2010
8:41 pm

Man, I am glad that I am not the only one who gets sick and tired of ESPN. They have turned sports into a tabloid story….the whole LeBron thing makes me sick along with the Red Sox and Yankee crap! Absolutely no hockey news…even worse is the NHL Network having very little coverage or hot stove conversation…getting tired of watching the old playoff games while trying to read the bottom scroll for new signing information..piss poor for a network that is owned by the NHL…Sorry to rant, you guys just touched on a sore subject. In addition I have DISH for my satellite provider and the lost the MLB package a couple of years ago and ESPN is playing games with them on their HD News channel and I hear they are losing the NHL package next year. Ugh!

Jack

July 6th, 2010
8:42 pm

Brendan thanks for the link. It shows Noah Welch has not been signed yet, but didn’t we resign him prior to last Thursday?

goose

July 6th, 2010
8:44 pm

we resigned boulton for 1 year at 650,000

Jack

July 6th, 2010
8:50 pm

Great to see Boulton back. I have feeling since the NHl tv rights go to versus now, it looks obvious that they do not care to cover NHL since they do not receive revenue. Just my take.

Thrashers27

July 6th, 2010
8:50 pm

Love havin’ Boults back, but is there really room for another LW?

Anybody know who the h-e-double hockey sticks Jared Ross is? On the Thrashers’ web-site he’s listed on the roster. 5′9″ Center.

Jack

July 6th, 2010
8:55 pm

Thrashers 27, he played for the flyers a couple games. Maybe he is Whites replacement :)
Any word on what Boulton made last year?

Sparky (Smoothie)

July 6th, 2010
9:16 pm

Boults made $600 large last season. Decent little bump for a part-time player.

Who says the ASG is cheap!!? ;-)

Jack

July 6th, 2010
9:18 pm

cool always need to have a instigator. :)

lola

July 6th, 2010
9:22 pm

#36 Whoo-hoo!

HookyBob

July 6th, 2010
9:27 pm

Solstice is a half-way point? To me solstice has a couple of meanings,…. that would be 1)maximum amount of light, or 2)minimum amount of light (ie maximum darkness)….eh? I gotta say this year’s solstice has a goodly amount of light. That may be showing my “fan” tendancies though. I guess you could look at solstice as being the maximum “out of balance.” But I ask “who needs balance anyway?” Besides, equinox was always sort of dull.

Seems to me that Duds may be a bit handcuffed by an ASG (internal) salary cap. None-the-less I think he has done a very good job in recent weeks. If I understand it correctly,…the players we picked up are, at a minimum, very solid, serviceable and teachable. That is besides being, bigger, grittier, and mostly younger. Now we have to see who fills out the coaching ranks.

As FA dies down,..trades may move front and center for July and August. Anyone think Colin White might be available if Kovy signs in NJ. Any interest if he is?

ESPN,..to borrow from the brewing world’s acronyms, could stand for “Extra Special Pric_ Network.” I’m some of you can come up with better words for what “ESPN” is short for. Let me hear it.

Glad to have Bolts back. Every team should have a Nova Scotian (a new Caladonian as it were). He may not have the best hands,…but his fights, generally against bigger opponents, have done wonders to get the “Boys in Blue” revved up. He may have played the 4th line,..but I recall more than one night in which Slater, Bolts & Thorburn were our best line. Does this mean Artukin was a one hit wonder with us?

Lest I forget, another in a string of great blogs Rawhide,…err Bill. We are so fortunate to have you chumming the waters.

HookyBob

July 6th, 2010
9:32 pm

OK I think I’m seeing the light now,..I could see the midpoint between hockey seasons as the point of greatest darkness,..and that would be the solstice, right?

Rawhide

July 6th, 2010
9:58 pm

I turn off the computer for a couple of hours to watch Star Trek II – The Wrath of Khan with the boys and ….BOOM! …a re-signing!

Boulton back…nice signing and a good price for the Thrashers. Modifying the roster listed in my post…I would drop Machachek and add in Boulton. MacArthur now parks in the PB with White and Thorns moves to the third line.

World Be Free

July 6th, 2010
10:03 pm

lola-you’re a little late on that one! I knew we would hear from you as soon as number thirty six was inked to a new deal/congratulations. I think it is a great move, but probably the signal that Arty will not be back.

Still plenty of UFAs out there-Dominic Moore? He was around last off season, had a nice first half in FLA, a better 2nd half and playoffs in Montreal. Gritty, good faceoff man and a desired replacement for Charmin.

Brendan-I do not know what we initially offered Max, must not have been much since he about faced pretty quick. I’d give him what he earned and get him back. Can’t believe I am pulling for Max, how things have changed.

ThrashDawg-I did not hear that Dish is losing NHL next season. If they do, I am changing before the season. We appreciate the rant, ESPN doesn’t care that they have ticked off half the sports world. Their College Football coverage is the worst anywhere, idiots like Corso, Fowler and that moron Bob Davie. NFL coverage is no better-5 commentators at the table for the NFL draft? Steve Young needs his ego surgically removed, cuz he will always be second fiddle to Joe Montana.

Sparky (Smoothie)

July 6th, 2010
10:04 pm

Little known fact: they once played hockey in Lexington! Check it: http://thrashingbirds.blogspot.com/2010/07/news-cant-hide-from-twitter-machine.html

Bill, I gotta take umbrage with your line combos. No way Thorbs takes C-Mac’s spot on the 3rd line if he’s around. He may not be exactly what we want, but his hands are certainly good enough to pot 15 goals playing with Laddy and Slates. And don’t forget about “Fly” Pettersson, who may very well be the surprise of training camp!

Sparky (Smoothie)

July 6th, 2010
10:06 pm

Okay, as not to get left behind by the bandwagon: ESPN SUCKS!

Rawhide

July 6th, 2010
10:10 pm

The Smooth Spark – Not sayin’ Thorbs is the best fit on the third line…just playin’ with the roster currently on hand.

Oh…and did you just drop “umbrage” on me?

Question: Does Boulton signing and the adition of Eager pretty much seal R2’s fate in that he definately will not be back? I would think so…

Regardless, I like the Bouls signing for a couple reasons…

One – $650K is a good value for that type of role player, especially one who has been one the team for a few years now. And that’a a $50K raise for him…8.3%. Who wouldn’t take that in today’s economy?

Two – It makes lola very, very happy! :grin:

World Be Free

July 6th, 2010
10:23 pm

It is official-Montreal is not offering contracts to Dominic Moore, Glen Metropolit, Paul Mara and Marc-Andre Bergeron.

Sparky (Smoothie)

July 6th, 2010
10:29 pm

Bill – you know it, you know it! :-) Had to “pick a fight” since we’re talking about Boultsy!

WBF – I like Moore too. Would really add to our 3rd line’s grit w/ Slates and Laddy bangin’ bodies.

I hope we can parlay C-Mac and / or White into some draft picks so we can sign some players with more grit and as much skill. And what’s with Nigel Dawes? No one claimed him!

Jack

July 6th, 2010
10:29 pm

World Be Free

July 6th, 2010
10:44 pm

Smoothie-I believe Red Light mentioned Dawes being available the other day as well. Calgary needs scoring and cap space, though I don’t know how much space Dawes will give you.

Still cannot forget last season when Boulton wanted to go with Carcillo and Carcillo won’t go. Bolts clucked his arms like a chicken in front of the Philly bench, classic Bolts! Carcillo was waiting for Slater to go with.

NYC

July 6th, 2010
11:17 pm

1,000 pardons Bill – but I do believe we open on Oct. 8th, not 9th – against those same Capitals.

Brendan

July 6th, 2010
11:21 pm

Jack, I thought I saw a tweet a few days ago that Noah Welch had been re-signed.

I guess I’m a little bit … surprised … to see Boulton back. Like WBF said, it looks like that’s the end of the R2Kin speculation. Well, at least we won’t have to wonder who’ll pick the lockerroom music this year. Boulton is back!! Ummn, does this mean Eric is, or will soon be the “most tenured Thrasher?” It’s got to either be Jim Slater or Boulton, unless it’s still Ilya, or possibly Slava Kozlov. Does anyone know? “Who has played the most games as a Thrasher?”

ESPN:
Egregious
Spin and
Propaganda
Network

To me, ESPN is just the apologist network for Athletes, where every athlete, (except Gretzky and his wife, Janet) are presummed not only “not guilty,” but “innocent.” Clearly, ESPN knows where its bread gets buttered. And it’s not the National Hockey League. I can’t even sit through “Baseball Tonight,” much less “Pardon the Interruption.” The only time I see ESPN, is (1) in a bar or (2) waiting for an oil change at the shop. I happened to see a segment with Linda Cohn, and I couldn’t even recognize her anyone. She’d changed her whole personality and look. Barry Melrose must sit there, at ESPN, wondering when he’s going to get the ax. I mean, their hockey coverage is a joke. Melrose has the easiest job on Earth–review the nights hightlight package, then comment on it, while squeezing in an occasional, “I don’t care for that a-tall (at all).”

So, still no Kovalchuk contract. Not officially. Wasn’t the decision “imminent” on Monday? It’s Wednesday now. If it were signed, the league’s offices have had time to review it, and approve it. I remember when the AJC reported that Kovalchuk’s represenation demanded that it be an equal amount of money, each and every year. And not say, a sliding scale, where it’s “front loaded,” then the last few years Kovy gets paid a pittance. Presumably, that was to discourage any GM from deciding to put Kovy on waivers when he’s 36 or 37, or to make him waive his NTC to move him to a cash-strapped club like Phoenix, Nashville, or Atlanta, Florida, or Carolina. If Kovy’s still getting paid $8.571 per annum, at an advanced age, GM’s would be less likely to trade him or trade for him.

Brendan

July 6th, 2010
11:23 pm

WBF, I’d like to invite Dominic Moore to training camp, if he’s un-signed in September. If he earns a roster spot, it won’t cost us much.

R. Stroz

July 6th, 2010
11:42 pm

Boults re-signed is good. Another step toward removing the Charmin.

Brendan

July 7th, 2010
12:04 am

R.Stroz, I think we’re stuck with White. And if we’re not, then we’re forced to take some other team’s bad contract in a trade. Like a Rolston or a Zubrus or a Horcoff. It’s just a cost cutting measure of the team with a WORSE contract to unload.

Tony C.

July 7th, 2010
1:43 am

I’d trade White for Horcoff…. wait-a-minnit… no I wouldn’t.

Tom

July 7th, 2010
2:23 am

Boults signing is a great move. He is a guy who will do whatever the team needs him to do, will work hard, and stand up. Looks like teams will not mess with our skill players in 2010-2011.

And if Boults becomes king of the press box until an injury opens a spot I doubt you will hear any bitching or whining.

World Be Free

July 7th, 2010
6:02 am

The Bolts signing to me indicates that Dudley is not to eager to totally shed the Thrashers image from last season. We have some good new pieces, but there’s a number of guys like Bolts and Slater who have worked hard, deserving a chance to be part of what may be to come. Rewarding a warrior – sounds like a Dudley move.

Brendan, as usual your description of ESPN is the best anyone can offer. ESPN was our go-to network for sports, then they fought a battle with Fox Sports on the reporting side and won. Problem is what happened to the network to facilitate that victory over Fox. Their people all turned into little Rick Reillys, in the sense that they became the news brokers and news makers while the players and games became secondary. I don’t want to just pick on Stuart Scott, but he’s more a game show host than a sports reporter, he knows nothing about sports. And so goes the network and the transformation of Linda Cohn. Just look at what ESPN has done to hockey. For 25 years, the NHL was a key part of this up and coming network. Now that ESPN has made it, they has discarded hockey, almost to the point of mocking the game. I guess ESPN has forgotton where it came from. Horcoff may have the worst contract (for a team) in the league.

Red Light

July 7th, 2010
7:00 am

Eternal Self Promotion Network

Boulton provides more continuity, and for six minutes a game gives you all he has. Solid choice.

Pittsburgh Pirate Fan

July 7th, 2010
7:38 am

…..And Sage is very quiet these days…..

Mrs. Charmin

July 7th, 2010
7:48 am

I like Bolts to, would like Arty more. I like the mix of players. I still say my hubby is going to have a good year, maybe not for the Thrashers tho. I will say this, I do not remember hearing any complaints on his game when he had 73 points year before last.

Rawhide

July 7th, 2010
7:57 am

NYC – Indeed Oct. 8 is opening night. Thanks…I corrected the post.

jimbo

July 7th, 2010
8:18 am

Red Light- thanks for the info. Good post. How ridiculous is it that LeBron and the other b-ball clowns can hold up the NBA, ESPN and the rest of the sports world? Disgusting! Could Grets or the The Kid do the same with the NHL. NEVER! Sleepers for this year’s Thrash lineup- Klingsburg and Paquette who is supposedly one ultra-tough dude with real hockey skills.

glovesave29

July 7th, 2010
8:21 am

Smoothie…not only were there the Thoroghblades (Moose and Nabakov both played there as Sharks farmhands) but Lexington was home to the worst logoed hockey team ever…

http://www.chriscreamer.com/logo.php?id=czzovwou4vlceqbrmegf

Which for some reason was the inspiration for the new Greenville team in the ECHL…

http://www.chriscreamer.com/logo.php?id=q6gq0l4z6inq0fb2zceslk8cz

Well, maybe New Haven has the worst…

http://www.chriscreamer.com/logo.php?id=2186

The new team in Augusta is just confusing…I mean, how did the wings get in FRONT of the birds’ body. That is just anatomically impossible…

http://www.kruhu.com/blog/?p=268

Just a little bad art to enjoy on this, a mid summer wednesday…have a good time!

Red Light

July 7th, 2010
8:21 am

Mrs. Charmin: Get off your knees!

True, the White bashers, Rainbow Coalition if you prefer, didn’t have much to complain about. I agree, lets forget about last year and move forward. C-Mac will flourish this season. White will provide solid minutes, Boulton will do his typical dirty work, Thorbs will get even better killing penalties even without Marty here, Thrashers style will emulate the old Flames with furious forechecking and plenty of banging from the third and fourth lines and Bolt-Action Bergfors will remind us all of the season Guy Chouinard had here 32 years ago.

2010-11 will be remembered as the year the Thrashers became a hockey team for Craig Ramsay. Just who are these sheep being referenced here in the past? Let RStroz’s Vuvuzela emanate through the rafters. This is the new Thrashers brand of hockey, the year we all forget about Damian Rhodes, Alexei Zhitnik, Todd Reirden and Rmun Ndur.

2011 will be heaven!

Badger Bob

July 7th, 2010
8:30 am

While I’m a big Arty fan because of his size and speed, he was never a Boults equivalent. No player wearing a visor can be a true enforcer. Welcome back, Boults! It does make the line-up a little crowded for the potential rookies, so Duds probably has another deal in mind.

I asked my Calgary scouts about Dawes release and got a big “so what”. I thought he could be a good pick up, but maybe not.

Red Light

July 7th, 2010
8:34 am

This just in…

Such is the fascination with old people tuning in for weather reports, Slava Kozlov, Mike Modano, Doug Weight and Teemu Selanne will announce their free agency decisions in an one-hour special with Mike Siedel on The Weather Channel, Fri. at 6:30 pm before they all go to bed.

Smoothie

July 7th, 2010
8:35 am

Wow, didn’t think anyone could out-do Brendan’s anagram for ESPN, but R/L certainly gave him a run for his money.

Well done boys and both are nomination worthy! And I nominate Lebron Prince of Fools James for entry into the Pantheon of Pathetic Publicity Ploys. What a pr!@k eh?!

World Be Free

July 7th, 2010
9:07 am

Used to be a big NBA fan, then the game turned from a team sport to an emphasis on stars and support/role players. Don’t know if Iverson started this, but the game has gone into the toilet the last decade. Perfect for ESPN and the short attention span generation they cater to.

People are really starting to universally hate Kovalchuk for the same reasons. Make up your friggen mind you jerk! Atlanta does not look like a bad place for rejecting him.

schroeder

July 7th, 2010
9:08 am

Rmun Ndur? I believe that is probably the most obscure reference I have ever seen on this blog. Oh yeah,ESPN is for people who don’t want any relevant sports info and who regularly read the National Enquierer for it’s insight.

schroeder

July 7th, 2010
9:10 am

Sorry,someone disabled my spell-check

Red Light

July 7th, 2010
9:35 am

Last comment on the ESPN mindset that World Be Free mentions. The NBA was so enamored by the Bird-Magic rivalry, and then Michael Jordan, that at the tail end of his career, the greatest player of the 70s and part of the 80s, Kareem Abdul Jabbar is a mere footnote these days. He was simply not “sellable” to the general public because he was a very private person. Stern and the NBA wanted charismatic players at the forefront and ESPN jumped right on board with that mindset. They began selling buffoons like Berman, Scott, Corso, Melrose, Van Pelt as mainstream sports broadcasters rather than what they truly were: showmen. They portray them as insiders or experts and even passed them off to professional and college teams as such, who now provide them more access to players and coaches because their pockets are lined with money from their networks. And,that’s a very dangerous precedent when one part of the media is provided preferential treatment. They parade these guys on their TV, radio and Internet feeds and tell unwitting fans that their guys are hustling for the stories, etc. The pre- or post-halftime exclusives happen because ESPN mandates them. As if any other reporter is provided that opportunity. And now, other networks are playing monkey-see, monkey-do, like the between the benches nonsense that are now a part of hockey with Milbury and McGuire, and talking to coaches and assistant coaches during the game. As if any comment a coach makes is even slightly intriguing.

Hockey followed the NBA’s lead with Bettman having been influenced by Stern. You go into nearly every arena these days and the same music, marketing ploys, kiss cam, you name it are paraded in nearly all of them. Originality went by the wayside a long time ago. The Great Sausage Race at Miller Park has now been copied by all major league baseball teams. It’s despicable and cookie cutter. All of this has been caused by shameless attempts to capitalize upon the small thinking of the 21 and under crowd, and ESPN-Disney are the ones leading the parade. Personally, for once, I’d like to be able to have a conversation with Badger Bob, Smoothie, Rawhide, World Be Free etc during stoppages in play, without listening to J-Bird do another trite contest. To me, the game is the entertainment. I don’t want or need to be entertained, I’m there to watch the game. It’s pandering to the casual fan and I’m sick of it all.

Red Light

July 7th, 2010
9:37 am

Another floater up there somewhere Trix!

Spud Webb

July 7th, 2010
9:46 am

I have to disagree (shocking I know it on this subject). I’d much rather see Nik moved to wing and have someone else step up at center. Leave Max for the KHL. I mean, a week in and nobody is close to signing him, what does that tell you?? Max is asking for too much money. His reputation is forever wrecked. I’ve met him a few times and seems like a super, super nice guy, but it doesn’t translate to signability.
We’ve brought bolts back, pressbox??? Not sure where he fits right now, love the guy, but just not sure where we put him.
Also, meant to post this yesterday, RedLIGHT, that was an AWESOME post of all the arenas you’ve been to. Lucky guy!!! Great read.

ChippersLoveChild

July 7th, 2010
9:47 am

Nobody is going to mention Kamal’s tweet last night about all being forgiven and time for Kovy to come home to the team he helped retool? I found that extremely interesting….

World Be Free

July 7th, 2010
9:48 am

When the Sabres drafted Ndur,he was labeled the “second coming of the Nigerian Nightmare” like Christian Okoye. Ndur turned out to be a total wimp.

ThrashDawg

July 7th, 2010
9:48 am

Is there any truth to Dan Kamal sending a tweet out last night saying “Welcome Home Kovy”? No news on the AJC as to any of this. If true, I am not sure how I feel about this deal. I just want to see this team play team hockey and it did not happen with Kovy before.

Buzilla in CT

July 7th, 2010
9:48 am

Nice Rawhide. I just bought and watched Wrath of Kahn last week on Blu ray

KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!

ThrashDawg

July 7th, 2010
9:50 am

Sorry CLC…I must have been typing when your post came across.

ChippersLoveChild

July 7th, 2010
9:56 am

Sometimes it pays not to sleep… saw this at about 2 am last night, from Kamal “OK. I’m going to say it: All is forgiven, Kovy. Time to come home now and join all the players you helped bring the re-tooled Thrashers.”

ChippersLoveChild

July 7th, 2010
9:57 am

No worries, ThrashDawg.

Badger Bob

July 7th, 2010
10:03 am

Rumun Ndur, the groundbreaker for the Thrashers African connection. Where would Aliu and Oduya be without him ;)

R. Stroz

July 7th, 2010
10:25 am

I know I’m in the minority, but I’d welcome Kovy back.

I still remember a few years back when he carried the team in an away game at Ottawa scoringa a plethora of goals.

Give the kid a chance, remember he’s only 27 years old.

Smoothie

July 7th, 2010
10:27 am

I find it mind-boggling but cool that Nigerian-blooded kids wind up playing hockey. Then again, chances are they were not born in Nigeria or certainly raised in Canada or the US. But still, hockey has come a long way from the 70’s and 80’s when there was nary a black player to be found. Let’s see, we’ve got a brotha from Stockholm, a brotha from Vancouver, Big Buf from Minny and Aliu who was actually born in Nigeria per wikipedia. Then he moved to Ukraine…of course! And let us not forget about the Swedish born OWUYA (oh wooo yeah!!) and Jordan Samuels from Windsor, CT! I’d say the Thrashers are quite the melting pot of ethnic backgrounds!

GS29 – indeed there have been some pretty laughable and downright scary hockey logos in the minors over the years. Of course, the NHL has had their share with the Mighty Ducks, lame-ass Seals, the first iteration of the Coyotes jerseys (ewwwww!), and the tragic St. Louis Blue note comedy jerseys from the early 90’s. There are still some bad unis but nothing like we saw during the 90’s.

Hockey Steve

July 7th, 2010
10:29 am

What if the Birds come out and absolutely paste the Caps on opening day??

Spud Webb

July 7th, 2010
10:37 am

Hey, i think i have a blog in pergatory also Trixy!! Help!

Spud Webb

July 7th, 2010
10:39 am

I’m going to ping Kamal right now, not kidding. I’ll find out if its true. stay tuned!!!

Smoothie

July 7th, 2010
10:43 am

I think the Grand Kamalian is simply dreaming “out loud” like a lot of Kovy fans who are secretly pining for him to return. Not to say it’s impossible, but it seems highly unlikely. Unless the team is about to be sold to another outfit who is willing to throw gobs of money his way. If you ask me, he can take his selfish, kilt-wearing butt back to Tver, Russia. The fact that he has turned down LA certainly makes him out to be more of a fraud than a player sincere about “winning now”.

da' boomer

July 7th, 2010
10:55 am

anything on the torchetti front?

R. Stroz

July 7th, 2010
10:59 am

Continuing with my minority opinion, does anyone remember the only player who openly admitted he didn’t like Hartley being fired?

Yes, Ilya Kovalchuk. Why, Ilya stated that Hartley made him play correctly.

Does anyone remember what Jim Slater said about Hartley last season?

Yes, the same thing.

Does anyone remember the rap that Kozlov stated about Anderson?

Anderson effectively ran Club Med.

So, if you have a coach that can teach and is willing to demand player accountability, isn’t it plausible that Kovy “grows as a player” again?

This is what I’d like to have happen. Duds allow Rammer to call Kovy and discuss what would be demanded of him and measure Kovy’s response.

If Kovy passes, offer him a reasonable contract.

Joe Friday

July 7th, 2010
11:05 am

Red Light’s on a roll this morning!

ESPN is completely irrelevant for me. The only time I’ve watched any of the channels in the past year is the World Cup games. Can’t stand bball, either one, unless the Cubs are in the playoffs (should I hold my breath) and with the internet, I don’t need Sportscenter anymore.

JeffMarek twitterated this:
“Jared Ross + Jaime Sifers sign w/the Thrashers. Saw Sifers a lot w/the Marlies here in Toronto. Nice player.”

Shamelessly stolen from a guy’s twitterification last night as we enter Day 7, North America held hostage: “Latest: Kovalchuk reportedly demanding 10 years, $10 million unmarked bills, and a getaway helicopter”

Tom

July 7th, 2010
11:06 am

Here is a thought to follow up on Stroz’s great post above.

When Ilya went to the Devils we all got pissed about his 1st Class Organization quote.

I wonder if it was in response to Anderson’s style and not the whole organization? Sure the Spirit Group sucks. There is no doubt about it, but Ilya does have a connection to the city and the city does have a connection to Ilya. To the rest of the NHL he is a hired gun, a piece of meat, but here he is part of the community.

That may be part of the decision making process.

ChippersLoveChild

July 7th, 2010
11:08 am

I’m all for the return of Kovy… he lacks in some areas, but adding a 40 plus goal scorer to this team can only help us… our power play dropped off considerably without his one-timers… I’d love to see him return…. Apparently there was something on Fox 5 last night about this as well.. but I did not see that.

glovesave29

July 7th, 2010
11:10 am

I am with you Stroz. I would take a guaranteed 40 goals / season in a minute. Perhaps Kovy has learned that the grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence. It does seem a bit strange this long delay. Perhaps Atlanta is in the mix. Who knows.

I can say that I have a few connections with the team. He tells me Kovy was very well liked by the team. Could he come back? It is doubtful, but it would certainly not shock me. Stranger things have happened.

Spud Webb

July 7th, 2010
11:15 am

I mean no disrespect to anyone on this blog, but no way in h&ll do I EVER want Kovy back here. Guy dumped on us in every single way possible. Lied to us, just like the ASG. To me, he’s no different. Karma is a … so good luck kovy in Jersey or wherever you end up. Heres to us winning a cup WITHOUT Kovy, before Kovy wins one without us.

Smoothie

July 7th, 2010
11:17 am

Okay, I’ll give into the madness and speculate some myself…WTFN?

The ASG and their twitter-based mouthpiece, Ben Wright, who normally shoots down any rumor when it’s blatantly farfetched, has not offered up one peep on the Kovy matter. Well, he took a pot shot at Kovy so that may be telling. However, the organization has been eerily silent since the rumor surfaced. Was there even any comment from Dudley about Boulton? I know I’m reaching here, but sometimes this franchise does things when you least expect it. Stroz makes a good case for Kovy’s *potential* character. He showed us what he’s capable of being when his heart and head are on the same page. Perhaps he wants an encore in ATL?

Red Light

July 7th, 2010
11:22 am

As long as he knows it’s not greener on the other side of the fence, than what’s the offer?

I say screw him and send him back home with Max, Nabby and Arty. The game here isn’t going to suffer without them. It existed long before the Russians came, and it’ll be here long after they’re gone. Plus, another Summit Series without Eagleson would be nice to see.

Watching North American millions wind up in Russia (and elsewhere) was never smart business, and they don’t share it with kids in their country either. I side with George Patton’s sentiments on this one.

glovesave29

July 7th, 2010
11:28 am

HA HA HA…Eklund thinks Kovy may be heading to Russia – but here’s the best one…Kaberle to LA for Simmonds and a prospect to TOR. LA would be NUTS to give up so much for Kaberle.

Eklund…always good for a laugh. Notice you don’t blog there much more Rawhide. Smart move.

Stroz – We all saw Thrash practices under Anderson. They were EASY! Couple of weaving drills. Some rebound work. Skate a few laps and do a shoot around…go home. Hartley practices were much tougher.

Jack

July 7th, 2010
11:32 am

Hartley was the man!!!

Adam

July 7th, 2010
11:34 am

Smoothie- It not just our team that is silent but just about the whole NHL. I can’t recall the 1st week of July being this quiet ever. Well maybe the lock out year.

It’s not just the Kovy saga but can anyone remember this few signings and lack of movement? So far the biggest signing is Gonchar at 5.5m.

It seem GM’s are keeping a tight grip on the check books. How long can it last?

Dwayne

July 7th, 2010
11:38 am

Start the KOVY chants….KOVY KOVY KOVY

Jack

July 7th, 2010
11:41 am

Kovy will not come here, because Ramsay and Dudley actually want players that can spell defense!!

Joe Friday

July 7th, 2010
11:44 am

“Nine mile skid on a ten mile ride, hot as a pistol but cool inside.
Cat on a tin roof, dogs in a pile,
Nothin’ left to do but smile, smile, smile!!!!

Now he’s gone, now he’s gone Lord he’s gone, he’s gone.
Like a steam locomotive, rollin’ down the track
He’s gone, gone, nothin’s gonna bring him back…He’s gone.”

I’m with Red Light, I’ll have a drink with any of youse guys anytime, but I’m not drinking with that Russian son of a . . . he’s gone.

Red Light

July 7th, 2010
11:46 am

Hey World Be Free

Sabres signed Rob Neidermayer. Start making those parade plans for next June!

Spud Webb

July 7th, 2010
11:50 am

Jesus, I didn’t even know rob neidermayer was still in the league.

WM

July 7th, 2010
11:51 am

Throw me into the “wishful thinking” camp regarding Kovy. We basically handed him the checkbook and he said no. What much has changed since February? Yeah, I know we hired Ramsey and Duds is the new GM, but the fundamental problem with this team hasn’t…Drive. That’s right, drive. Yeah the players talk to the media and us fans about wanting to make the playoffs and such, but where is that drive come that stretch in the season where won 5 out of 14? Didn’t mean to go off on a rant. I just don’t think he’ll do it. Besides, I like the make up of the team now. Disapointed we let Kubina go, but hopefully Max will see the light and re-sign. Really looking forward to this weekend’s camp.

ChippersLoveChild

July 7th, 2010
12:09 pm

Why again are some so mad at Kovy? Because he called our organization out? We haven’t won ANYTHING in our existence… and yes, he was a member of our organization for a long period of that time, so partly some of the blame can fall on him, but all he did was speak the truth, in my opinion… You act like after nearly ten years of losing none of you would be happy to go to Jersey, a team that goes to the playoffs every year, and always has a chance because of the man between the pipes… I’d have done cartwheels on my way out the door at that point in time as well… That being said, if Kovy likes the improvements to our roster over the last six months, and still finds that he would want to play here again, then you welcome him back with open arms… We don’t have anyone close to being able to do, offensively, what Kovy can do on our roster.

Putting On The Foil

July 7th, 2010
12:17 pm

Agree. 90% of the this blog has been calling out this organization for the last ten years. Kovy does it and he’s a traitor!

Midfield

July 7th, 2010
12:21 pm

Well, yeah, heck, it’s because he stands to earn a lot of money in the next number of years – one way or another, that Russian SOB.

EA

July 7th, 2010
12:24 pm

I would welcome Kovy back with open arms. Dan Kamal said it best. All is forgiven, come home. It was never about the fans or the city. Yes, he wanted more people in the stands, but he knew why they weren’t there. He sent the message to the management and owners that all of us wanted to send.

Smoothie

July 7th, 2010
12:26 pm

Ha ha ha Kovy…nobody loves you like that!!

Twitter machine says: helenenothelen “more on kings and kovy: he never compromised during their first round of talks and they hit limit and walked away. now he is (more)…”

…willing to compromise??

Smoothie

July 7th, 2010
12:28 pm

helenenothelen “willing to bend and his side is supposed to give counter offer to kings today. i dunno where that leaves devils…(more)”

Kovy, just take the Kings deal and be happy. It’s a good fit and a win / win for everyone. Plus, we won’t have to worry about getting scored on by you 4 or 6 times / year in the Eastern Conf.

Midfield

July 7th, 2010
12:30 pm

By the way, Sovsport has it that Nabokov has just signed with SKA St. Petersburg for four years. That’s the club that Kovy’s Russian agent is reported to be still negotiating, I understand.

Smoothie

July 7th, 2010
12:31 pm

After reading Ramsay’s comments from Red Light’s well-written article on Rammer for the Red Light Report (be sure to check it out!), I don’t see how Kovy would fit in with the new culture Craig is trying to engender in his mission and hopefully his actions as coach. To wit:

“A leader isn’t always the guy with the “C” on his sweater, sometimes that is a misnomer. I think leadership means that everyone is involved in the team process,” Ramsay related. “A coach really has to reward everyone that participates. You can have a lot of great leaders who play on the third or fourth lines, or maybe the fifth and sixth defensemen, because they come and compete every night.

“Teaching your team to compete and demanding it, and recognizing the guys who do compete and having them help you get the other guys on board. Hockey isn’t a one-man game and Atlanta’s had some great players here that perhaps have been unsuccessful. Leadership is a team event.”

Click here for the rest of the read: http://www.sportssoutheast.com/index.php/red-light-report/59-nhl/222-craig-ramsays-coaching-philosophy

Jack

July 7th, 2010
12:37 pm

well said Smoothie

World Be Free

July 7th, 2010
12:39 pm

Kovy maybe coming back? I stand by my ex-wife scenario mentioned yesterday. A divorce is a divorce and there’s no way around it. If he came back it would never be the same as it was during his first tour of duty. For those reasons, I say good luck Kovy wherever you end up. And for the record, I did not boo Kovy when he came to Atlanta late last season.

Kovy tired for the most part while he was here and he was never captain material. Making him captain was a way to try and weave him into the inner workings of this team so much that he won’t leave and he finally did. I was actually glad for him to go to a winner and have a chance to contribute to a playoff team. Remember when they interviewed Kovy on ice at the end of the 08-09 season against TB, he stated that he would like more “players” here to help the team get better. WE ALL CHEERED! So isn’t that what Dudley is doing right now? In a sense, Dudley’s work is 1 year too late, because if we had the same commitment last summer Kovalchuk might still be here.

We take out our frustrations on Kovalchuk, because he is yet another in a long line of players that has viewed this situation as a failure. Most of us do the same at some point of our professional careers and we move on hoping to find something better. I know it’s more complicated than that, but largely there are very few differences for all of us.

Midfield

July 7th, 2010
12:41 pm

Wait. Does it mean that we won’t have the first line at all? Does it meant that we won’t have the guy with the “C” on the sweater? Far out. I know that we definitely won’t have anyone dumb as a sack of hammers. That’s for damn’ sure!

World Be Free

July 7th, 2010
1:02 pm

As a former player, I can tell you that losing is hockey can be the toughest in team sports.
In football teams are separated by the width of a football field, that’s the difference between winners and losers. In baseball, the dugouts are separated by about 50 feet. In hockey, the physical difference between winning and losing teams is about 10 feet-the distance between benches. Over the course of a season, it gets very tiring to see other teams celebrating victories why your team is losing most of the time. Multiply that by 7+ seasons and you can see why Kovy or anyone else would want to get out of here.

And yes, as I mentioned yesterday, we need a captain.

Sack of Hammers

July 7th, 2010
1:02 pm

I’m smarter than Waddell and the Octotards.

glovesave29

July 7th, 2010
1:05 pm

This is interesting…

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/soccer/worldcup/2010-07-07-barcelona-loan_N.htm

Could this be the end of the never ending ascension of salaries? This is not the Phoenix Coyotes having problems…FC Barcelona is bigger than everything else here – including the Yankees.

Smoothie

July 7th, 2010
1:12 pm

I wouldn’t doubt it GS29. The world economy is crumbling under its own weight and the Mayans prediction for the end of the world in 2012 is looking better than an Eklund rumor tweet!

What an uplifting statement I just made!? I have a sad now. Think I’ll go play with a sack of hammers and see what happens.

Hockey Steve

July 7th, 2010
1:13 pm

If the Thrasher Brass are actively persuing Kovalchuck again, it’s the best kept secret in ATL. I just don’t think its plausible.

World Be Free

July 7th, 2010
1:29 pm

Red Light-simply stated, the actions of the Buffalo Sabres make me want to vommit.

Smoothie

July 7th, 2010
1:33 pm

Zherdev to the Flyers!!??

According to Dmitry Chesnokov of Puck Daddy, Holmgren wants Z! And it may be a done deal. WTF?

Who gets Gagne and who goes after Carcillo??

Trixie (Rawhide's Secretary)

July 7th, 2010
1:47 pm

Mr. Red Light & Mr. Spud Webb – Both of your comments from earlier today have been freed from Blog Purgatory.

Brendan

July 7th, 2010
2:03 pm

Glovesave29, I like the new Greenville and Lexington logos. That New Haven one, well … it’s gotta go. It looks like it came out of a Halloween store. And the Augusta one … it looks more like the bird’s heard is looking down over a set of wings.

Pittsburgh Pirate Fan

July 7th, 2010
2:05 pm

Zherdev with the Flyers is like Barry Manilow playing with Motley Crue

R. Stroz

July 7th, 2010
2:10 pm

PPF – What about Air Supply?

Pittsburgh Pirate Fan

July 7th, 2010
2:12 pm

Air Supply and Motley Crue?
Zherdev is not a Philly kinda guy

Badger Bob

July 7th, 2010
2:18 pm

I learn more from Rawhide and you posters than from nhl.com and tsn.ca combined – well done, friends!

“I say screw him and send him back home with Max, Nabby and Arty.” RL’s inner Don Cherry coming out. With respect to your earlier Burmistrov concerns, RL, I’m with you on a preference for North American toughness, grit and desire. However, my concerns on our top draft pick were alleviated somewhat in reading the National Post article on him. The dad in the family he lived with described himself as a Don Cherry kind of guy, but Burmistrov won him over. That speaks volumes.

glovesave29

July 7th, 2010
2:48 pm

LeBrun confirms Nabokov 4 years to SKA St. Petersburg…

Was it ever called SKA Leningrad back in the Soviet days?

Brendan

July 7th, 2010
3:04 pm

Look, Ilya Kovalchuk is not coming back. Not enough has changed. Not really. Who own da Trashers? (OWWWNZZ. OWWWNZ.) Fine, “who owns the Thrashers?” Answer: The Octotards, a.k.a. “FUBAS.” Who oversees the budget? Answer: Don Waddell, who has hardly cleaned out his desk. Does Atlanta has a new scouting staff? Answer: No, but it does have a new strength coach, from the Columbus Blue Jackets. “Does Atlanta stillll have an internal cap?” Answer: All points indicate a “yes.” Then, let me reiterate, “What has changed?”

Oh sure, I like the Ramsay hire. I do. I like what Dudley has done, on the ’shoestring budget’ he’s assumed. But Dudley is not Anne Sullivan. (Read: He’s not the ‘miracle-worker.’) Ilya Kovalchuk was, in no UNCERTAIN TERMS, handed the keys to the house, car, boat, bus, and plane. He said, “no.” I harbor no ill will for that decision. If he didn’t want to play here, then he shouldn’t be FORCED to play here. Ilya Kovalchuk earned the right to chose where he plays. We might not like that, as fans. But there’s nothing we can do about it. Ilya holds all the cards. He’s in control. It’s his decision.

I was at the Devils game that saw his return, as well as the Thrashers’ elimination. I cheered loudly for him. And I did not boo him. I understand that he’s a marquee player, a Tier I talent, who would like to win the Stanley Cup one day. Or, at least, so I think. If Kovy signs with the Islanders, Blue Jackets, Oilers, or Panthers, I’ll revise that statement. In that case, “he was the after THE MONEY, and ONLY the money.” I’ll remind everyone that those who live by the buck, die with it, too. It’s hard to know … exactly what Ilya thinks. He says, “We love Atlanta. My family lives here.” And by the last check, months ago, I might add, there wasn’t a “for sale” sign in Kovy’s yard. Then again, Kovy can live WHEREVER he jolly well wants. He can afford it. If he and his wife want a Townhouse on the Moon, NASA can arrange that for him. He has the money. The one and only thing Ilya Kovalchuk cannot buy … is a pet dinosaur for his daughter Karolina. That’s about it. If Kovalchuk wants to become a mercenary, Hossa-style, he can certainly chase the Cup on a series of one-year contracts. He’s earned that right.

I don’t boo the guy. In his shoes, I wouldn’t stay with Atlanta. It’s not a good bet. I don’t buy, for one second, that the team might relocate. So, I don’t list that as a reason NOT to re-sign with Atlanta. Kovalchuk probably does want to be the highest paid player in the game. Remember something, here. Today’s “highest paid player” is not the highest paid player … even two years down the road. Kovy’s RFA deal seemed “egregious” when it was announced. By 2007, it was seen as “a steal” at $6.5 million cap hit. That’s how Kovy and his agent probably see things. They think, “$10 million is nothing, three years from now.” The league max, by 2013, will be something like $14 million. That’s probably why he’s seemingly seeking the MAX. But in his shoes, and not being Russian, I’d just look for an organization that is a ‘good bet’ to win the Cup over the next 5-7 years, and sign for a deal that allows me to have quality linemates, to excel and reach all my goals as a professional. I certainly don’t need the money. I’m already set for life, before my next contract. Ilya Kovalchuk has made $47 million playing hockey in the NHL. That’s bigger than the MegaMillions Jackpot, after taxes.

I’m with WBF, Smoothie, Joe Friday … I’ve cut the cord with Kovy. I bear no ill will. I wish him the very best of success. I hope he can find the right fit, whether out West in Los Angeles, or in NJ. I think he’d be an idiot to sign with the Islanders. But if he does, he was certainly old enough at 27 years of age, to know better. And if he lets his agent make the decisions for him, then he’s a fool. He pays his agent to place him where he wants to be.

Brendan

July 7th, 2010
3:16 pm

Pirate’s fan, oddly enough, I can see Vince Neil belting out a rockin’ version of “Oh Mandy!,” but it’d kinda sound more like something airing on Cinemax’s Friday night lineup. Manilow fans would be there, scratchin’ their heads, “I don’t recall women panting in this song.”

Brendan

July 7th, 2010
3:19 pm

Glovesave29, I would have preferred getting Nabakov to Kovalchuk for next season.

Brendan

July 7th, 2010
3:26 pm

Smoothie, I’m headed out the door, but I’d still say Simon Gagne is looking at the L.A. Kings, especially since Kovalchuk reportedly isn’t going there.

Brendan

July 7th, 2010
3:38 pm

Red Light, Nabby’s reported deal was only a $4.0 million cap hit, at $24 million over six-years. It pays Evgeni until he’s 41, however. I never saw him coming here, truthfully. Theodore is still out there, if Pavelec and the Thrashers are having trouble coming to terms. I think Pavelec will sign, fairly shortly.

Buzilla in CT

July 7th, 2010
3:48 pm

So I heard the Kovy is going to have an hour long special on ESPN on Friday after LeBron does his little show. Kovy is going to host as well. At the end of the hour long broadcast he will let everyone know what his intentons are. One topic that will be off limits is why he did this calender

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://skirts.provocateuse.com/images/photos/ilya_kovalchuk_02.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.xrumxrum.com/forum/showthread.php%3Ftid%3D540&usg=__ORrB8_o27gcDh9Ve-1y-SC0SGVk=&h=504&w=327&sz=46&hl=en&start=17&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=YvIfZGQxvyGnhM:&tbnh=130&tbnw=84&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dkovalchuk%2Bcalendar%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dactive%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1

Jack

July 7th, 2010
3:49 pm

any word on turco

Adam

July 7th, 2010
4:05 pm

Reports are popping up that LA is back in the running for the Kovy sweepstakes.

Jack

July 7th, 2010
4:09 pm

Kovy make up your mind!!

glovesave29

July 7th, 2010
4:09 pm

Corvo to Carolina – 2 years $4.5M

Red Light

July 7th, 2010
4:46 pm

Love the quote from Jim Rutherford about Corvo.

“His first choice was Carolina and he compromised his position to make it happen,” Rutherford said. “You really appreciate a player who really wants to play for Carolina.”

He conveniently left out that Corvo took a $375,000 pay cut too.

Hockey Biltong

July 7th, 2010
5:53 pm

“don’t go back, you can never go back”…….

World Be Free

July 7th, 2010
6:24 pm

Nabakov is heading to the KHL-Burmistrov was right, the KHL is an old man’s league.

World Be Free

July 7th, 2010
6:31 pm

Brendan-won’t it be nice if we as Thrashers’ fans could cut the cord to the past as well? Don is still here, we have no idea what influence he has on player decisions. We also have a new GM and coach, both of which have histories of success in other places, cities where winning was not a regular or recent occurence prior to their arrival. So as we cut the cord on Kovy, it is tiem to cut the same cord on certainty that we’ll be a bad team again with our only thrill being who will our choice be as a lottery pick. I for one am prepared for a long overdue stay near the top of the standings.

Here’s hoping…..

Not Blind

July 7th, 2010
6:41 pm

Why is it that every pic you see of Kovalpuke on NHL.com he is in a NJ uniform ??? He plays all those years in Atlanta and is nothing more than a rental for a few games in NJ but now he is an ex-Devil.

Jack

July 7th, 2010
7:26 pm

Because he is the devil and looks good in red. :)

R. Stroz

July 7th, 2010
8:06 pm

Not Blind – Ecklund is reading your material.

Check his last BS update picture.

Spud Webb

July 7th, 2010
8:33 pm

WBF I’m with ya. I don’t want Kovy back. I’d take Jeff Odgers back in a second though!! lol

Brendan

July 7th, 2010
8:46 pm

WBF, I think cutting the cord to the past will definitively happen once this team is committed to winning, and abandoning concepts like an ‘internal cap,’ that is $10 million shy of the limit, in favor of grinding the grist the mill requires to win. Look what the Chicago Blackhawks just did. Everyone can say, “But Brendan, look how the team has since been gutted.” When they should be looking at the parade in downtown Chicago, that spilled over to six avenues, where 2 million showed up to celebrate. At the end of the day, the Blackhawks achieved what they hadn’t in 49 years. That’s why free agents like Havlat (not there in the cup winning year), Hossa, and Campbell decided to come play there. Their actions spoke louder than their lip-service.

Right now, I wouldn’t say free agents are banging down our door to get inside. And one of the reasons that they aren’t … is precisely because this very ownership’s closest thing towards commitment to winning the cup was a drunken Rutherford Seydell, back in 2007, during the banner raising ceremony, promising to do everything in their power to bring the Stanley Cup to Atlanta. Well, that’s just ‘lip service.’ And players see right through that. Talk is cheap. Accountability over results, including GM’s, Coaches, and scouts, coupled with robust budgets, are what attract players to a market. WBF, it’s bad enough that Atlanta has to overcome the whole ‘non-traditional’ market thing, without failing in the other aspects, for most of its decade-long existence. Dudley is doing a better job that Waddell ever could. Craig Ramsay will turn into a very good coach. And this team will do fairly well. But the way to really change the past … is to rewrite the future. Abandon this ‘internal cap.’ Let Dudley have a ‘fighting chance’ to compete with the other 14 markets in the East. And if he fails, let accountability reign. But don’t shackle the guy, then get mad at him, if the team fails, in his 1st year here. Ownership is the key to everything. Ownership can cut the cord with its past. It’s up to them, WBF. They have the power. They have the control. Tom Golisano has the power to get rid of Larry Quinn in Buffalo. He doesn’t. And the results speak for themselves. Darcy Regier does all he can, with the limited resources he’d been given. That’s a story that needs to change, too. Will Buffalo cut the cord with its past? It’s up to Golisano. Larry Quinn is an idiot. And there’s just no way to sugarcoat that.

Tom (Capital T Tom)

July 7th, 2010
8:51 pm

Want to hear an indictment of the Thrashers systems over the years?

That’s because the Devils play a system that stresses defence. While Kovalchuk’s offensive output dipped, he became a plus in the plus/ minus figures for the first time in his career. He was plus-9 in New Jersey and finished the season at plus-10. In those 52-goal seasons in Atlanta, he was minus-6 and minus-12, which means he hurt the team more than he helped them. Over his six-plus seasons in Atlanta, he was minus-84.

Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/life/Devils+sign+other+Kovy/3239675/story.html#ixzz0t30DBtFh

World Be Free

July 7th, 2010
8:57 pm

Spud-can’t wait to see Eager and Bolts on the same line together. I’d hate to be a defenseman on that shift. Keep adding bangers!

World Be Free

July 7th, 2010
9:13 pm

Brendan, I would like to see the internal cap discarded right away, but I believe we will spend about $10M under the cap this season. Alot depends on how the team comes out of the gate and how many old and new fans buy tickets. No matter what we think, ownership needs to see more people in the stands before they will take the next step-that’s how I see it. Hopefully they too are tired of losing and seeing 10,000 people at best in the house every night. Some people won’t come back; I respect their decision cuz it’s a free country. But hopefully, more will come out. I need to know Buff’s number so I can get a jersey with “Buff” on the back! I am hoping for better times, especially with Ramsay as coach and whatever staff he puts together. And FYI, they may have said they wanted a Cup in 2007, but the owners didn’t have the ability to assemble a competitive team, until now-they have the right man.

I have heard it too, calling us a non-traditional hockey market is just another way for so-called hockey cities to put us down and keep us down. I have seen enough of those traditional hockey cities, like Buffalo and Chicago with half-empty rinks through the years. You and I have heard just about enough of that stuff.

We have alotta northerns here, plenty of hockey loving Yankees and Canadians that came out the first few years, until the team turned them off. If half those people came back, how full do you think Phillips would be? Imagine if all the people that come and see their original hometopwne teams started showing up for more games? If you are a hockey fan, you have like what you have seen the past few weeks.

Buffalo is where they are because they have a great goaltender, the rest of the team is very average, soft players. That’s Darcy’s doing and Regier needs to go. The Thrashers can beat Buffalo because they handle them physically. Sabres are the softest team in the league. Bring back Ted Nolan!!!!!!!!!

Thrashers27

July 7th, 2010
10:03 pm

Not Blind,

Journalists are trained to use the latest image available. That’s why all you see is Kovy in a Jersey sweater.

Brendan

July 7th, 2010
10:33 pm

WBF, sincerely, I think fans will back the house to the tune of 15,000, if this team is 3 or 4 games over .500 headed into November. By Veteran’s Day, we’ll know if this is “same ol’ Thrashers, same ol’ sick-feeling, ‘buyers remorse’ drive home,” or … if this is a whole new concept that’s working. And if it is, fans don’t really have a reason (other than a Waddell/ASG boycott & sour-grapes Kovy fans) not to attend by Thanksgiving, at the latest. Said another way, how could it be “enabling them to do more of the same ineptness,” if what they’re doing … is winning hockey games? I know that several posters came here to express the sentiment, “I’ll never attend another game, if you don’t re-sign Kovalchuk.” I think these people have the right to hold that opinion. I wasn’t happy about how the whole Kovalchuk situation played out, particularly that he wasn’t signed by Christmas, at very, very latest. Bygones. I still say that DW and the ownership could have made the $101 million over 12 years offer back on July 14, 2009, with the understanding that a “nyet” would be met with a trade. Truthfully, I think BOTH sides wanted Kovalchuk in Thrasher blue for as long as was possible–Atlanta to sell tickets, and Kovalchuk to be close to his very pregnant wife and their existing, very small children, rather than SEPARATED to God knows where. For me, I didn’t take a hardline, “I’ll never attend another game stance” if Kovy is lost to free agency. For starters, I suspected he was gone anyway, and there was effectively no way to retain him. Second, Ilya Kovalchuk may be a phenom, but no man is an island. Third, the Atlanta Thrashers are my team. I’d like to think that one day Waddell will be entirely gone, and ownership committed to winning would be installed. That continues to be my wish.

R. Stroz

July 7th, 2010
11:31 pm

Brendan – I realize you probably already posted the results, however, did anyone predict the “Kovy signing contest” correctly?

Tony C.

July 8th, 2010
4:52 am

I felt shame when #17 was booed on his return to The Flatscreen. Sure, it hurts that he doesn’t want any part of of a FUBAS-run team… but can you blame him? I mean, let’s change the scenario a little bit-let’s say you play baseball. Let’s say you got drafted by the Pirates in oh, say ‘01… Let’s say you’ve been an everyday player for the past couple of seasons and NOW is your UFA window… The Pirates say they’ll pay you more than ANYONE. While the Braves, Yankees, Mets and Red Sox all say they will pay you “handsomely”. Do you Take the Pirates offer? Knowing that while you’ll be making more than A-Roid (err. A-Rod), but he’ll be playing most Octobers while you will be…looking up tickets to Costa Rica (or wherever) most Octobers… Because your super-max contract is eating up whatever meager resources the Pirates have to field a club. No-brainer right?

I wouldn’t expect #17 to take less than what he was making to stay here (and let’s face he would’ve needed to for these cheapskates to have enough $ to ice anything close to a legit contender), just like I wouldn’t expect a master chef to take the same $10/hr. that a highschool dropout is making as a line cook.

All that being said, I’ve always had a dream of #17 bouncing out of the box (where he sat for a lazy hooking penalty) breaking away on a sweet feed from the PKers to race in, pull up, fake a shot then dish it off to Slater for the SCW goal in game 7 @ The Flatscreen (no really, I’ve had this dream 3 times). If somehow, someday, #17 does return to us, then nobody will be happier than I. But I will bet on us winning The Cup this season with a much higher degree of confidence than seeing #17 in Thrasherbleu anytime soon.

World Be Free

July 8th, 2010
6:06 am

Tony C.-I guess the only difference between the NHL and your MLB comparison is the existance of the salary cap in hockey. The difference between total payrolls between teams in baseball is so severe that sadly, the Pirates have no chance of ever coming close to the Mets, Yanks or Boston in dollars spent on salaries, so comparing the Pirates as a competitive team is a moot point.

I think Kovy was destinated to leave last season. He had been here for 8 years, which is a long time in any sport. Look around and see how many players not in Detroit have been with the same team that long. He did his time and now needed to move on, he was captain of a losing team and it was time for him to move on. Iginla and Nash will have to do the same someday, others too if their team’s fortunes do not turn around.

World Be Free

July 8th, 2010
6:09 am

Brendan-I think most of us were calling for Kovy’s trade last summer, when we knew he wasn’t going to resign. The courtship dance had gone on long enough with no ink on paper. So now that his situation is settled, we have replacement players and a new direction, you wonder, can we finally move forward as a franchise and hget people back in the seats? The onus is moving back to the fans.

Thoughts on Kovy

July 8th, 2010
7:09 am

“Don’t look back. You can never look back.”
I thought I knew what love was,
what did I know?
Those days are gone forever
I should just let them go but

World Be Free

July 8th, 2010
7:54 am

Did anyone else notice the terms of Nabakov’s new contract? I thought he would command a greater salary in the NHL, maybe it’s the term of the contract that teams could not live with here.

Putting On The Foil

July 8th, 2010
8:01 am

“Well he’s gone, gone, gone.
I don’t know if I’m happy, I don’t know if I’m sad.
He’s gone, gone, gone.
I don’t know if I’ll cry, I don’t know if I’ll die……laughing.”

World Be Free

July 8th, 2010
8:12 am

Here’s an interesting review of Chris Mason-

“Bumped out of the starting job by Jaroslav Halak’s arrival in St. Louis, Mason has probably played better than anyone else available during the last two years. Of course, there are some concerns that his numbers were inflated by Andy Murray’s conservative, trapping style.”

Anyone else surprised (almost shocked) that Nabakov was replaced in San Jose by Niity?

glovesave29

July 8th, 2010
8:26 am

I had been hearing a lot of “chatter” about some NHL scouts scouring Iran for talent. But since they have outlawed the mullet – the official hockey haircut – word is that all of them have been recalled…

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/07/07/iran.haircuts/index.html?hpt=C1

Smoothie

July 8th, 2010
8:35 am

Ha, ha Kovalchoke, ha! Way to let your agent destroy your image around the league. Enjoy KHL.

Thoughts on Kovy

July 8th, 2010
9:48 am

Are he not doing the same as Lebron, but with less fan fare? I know, (almost)everyone here hates basketball and espn..waaawaaaawaaaa. But if (almost)everyone in here was an athlete, like myself, you could enjoy it. Like I’ve always said, those who cant, complain.

Smoothie

July 8th, 2010
10:03 am

Yes, because you must be an athlete to understand ANYTHING you speak about as an informed observer.

Eff Lebron and the NBA. Stern has ruined what used to be a great sport.

glovesave29

July 8th, 2010
10:18 am

What???? I think most try NOT to draw attention to themselves in a negative way.

Badger Bob

July 8th, 2010
10:32 am

Thoughts on Kovy, I daresay Don Waddell is a better hockey player than most posters here. I daresay most posters here could have put together a better team in 10 years. Athletic ability does not equate to intellect or insight. Also, those who can also do plenty of complaining – Exhibit A: Cindy Crochby. Exhibit B: Martin St. Louis.

glovesave29

July 8th, 2010
10:43 am

Bob – partially agree. Ability certainly does not equate to intellect…but it can (repeat CAN – not does) equate to insight. There are smart players out there, but it is not tied to their athletic ability.

Don did play minor league hockey in the CHL and IHL back when you had to be a pretty tough guy to do so. Certainly did not equate to being a quality GM…that is for sure.

Good examples of whiners too!

Joe Friday

July 8th, 2010
10:51 am

“No matter what we think, ownership needs to see more people in the stands before they will take the next step-that’s how I see it.”

“The onus is moving back to the fans.”

As a businessman, I would LOVE for this to be true. I could cut back on the quality of my product and tell my customers, “look, if you start buying more, then I’ll give you better quality, but the onus is on you, fellas!”

WBF, I appreciate your sentiment, but that’s not how business works. “You gotta spend money to make money”. The horse comes before the cart. You can’t expect people to drop large coin on an inferior product first and then subsequently improve your product. The free market does not work like that (whatever we have left of that in this country, I know the socialists would disagree).

“Anyone else surprised (almost shocked) that Nabakov was replaced in San Jose by Niity?”

Yep, I think the Sharks’ fans are the most shocked/upset/disbelieving of all. That said, I’d be suprised if that’s their final plan, they may be looking to trade for a starter, Nittymaki is as much of a starter as Ellis is.

Jack

July 8th, 2010
11:02 am

I think San Jose is making a big mistake. Afterall San Jose only plays atlanta once, and one win will not put them in the playoffs.

Thoughts on Kovy

July 8th, 2010
11:18 am

Athletic ability does not equate to intellect or insight. Also, those who can also do plenty of complaining – Exhibit A: Cindy Crochby. Exhibit B: Martin St. Louis.
Never mentioned intellect or insight, I hate Cindy and St. Lewis is a bolt, and I hate the bolts.
Gagne get 5.25 mill this year, I say after Kovy signs, Gagne, Max and some of the other “scorers” look around and see what team has cash left. Will we get someone then???

Jack

July 8th, 2010
11:28 am

I think we will get someone soon. Just not sure who. Although it is eiry quiet lately.

World Be Free

July 8th, 2010
12:20 pm

J/F, equally important is having the right man making the personnel decisions getting established players and the right draft choices. We all know the decision maker who is responsible for the inferior product, giving him more money means we’d just have more inferior players overpaid (more Bobby Holiks). I was trying to put the past behind us, believing that the future will be brighter with the Dudley/Ramsay combination. Let’s hope this combination, along with better players will change the fortunes of this organziation before it is too late. It is major coin too, no doubt.

World Be Free

July 8th, 2010
12:33 pm

Ellis for Niity is a marginal upgrade, especially if you consider Mike Smith is still sitting there wonder his status with the Bolts.

Nikolai Zherdev as a Flyer just doesn’t sound right, he must be willing to play for around 1-1.5M/season. The day “Z” signs is the day Gagne is on the block.

Hockey Biltong

July 8th, 2010
12:49 pm

TOK-Thanks for the correction!!! Well done….

BlueSpark

July 8th, 2010
1:36 pm

RE: ESPN – I mostly agree with the majority opinion here. But I will say this: to watch World Cup games live on-line, all I have to do is go to espn3.com and login via Comcast (my ISP). To watch Tour de France live on-line, I apparently have to pay Versus $29.95. Even though I already pay Comcast (who owns Versus, not ESPN) for cable and Internet.

As for Kovy coming back, I’d consider offering a 10 year deal starting at maybe $8M, then dropping each year after he’s 32. But he apparently wouldn’t sign that anyway, so it’s moot.

He’s gone, and the Thrashers are really no worse off.

The gap to the salary FLOOR is pretty disheartening though…

Dwayne

July 8th, 2010
1:38 pm

Has the Thrasher camp started yet? Someone going to update if it has? I hope so. Wanting a hockey fix. Braves look good, Damon Evans gave us some good reading, should have moved some of his comments to the comic section.

Badger Bob

July 8th, 2010
1:58 pm

glovesave29

July 8th, 2010
2:04 pm

Why is Kovy so against a front or back loaded contract? Seems to me, get more money up front (or in the first few seasons) and let it work for you. There is likely to be inflation / monetary devaluation over the course of the contract. Taxes surely will not go down…so if the contract terms and total monetary sum are agreeable…what’s the difference? Seems to me the more money you get sooner, the better off you will be.

Yung JB

July 8th, 2010
2:12 pm

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/freeagents/top30ufas.html

still alot of the top 30 UFA’s available and the thrashers look involved in most cases

Tom Lysiak

July 8th, 2010
2:31 pm

Love the way this Kovy situation is going. This is better than a soap opera. Lots of good possibilities here:

Are Kovy and his evil agent over-playing their hand?

Are they sticking to that $10 million demand so they can say they ended up getting the same as Atlanta offered and didn’t leave money on the table?

Are there really only two teams in the hunt?

Did Kovy and his agent realize Lou wasn’t going over $8.5 million and crawl back to the Kings for one more try??

Did they think the Kings would blink and go for the $10 million since Lou had supposedly offered $8.5 million? I mean it’s only $1.5 million more Dean….

Did Lombardi blink once thinking they were serious about negotiating the second time?

Are the Kings really done with Kovy now as they say?

Was Lou unable to dump a couple of contracts he has been feverishly trying to unload which would give him cap room?

Does Lou regret trading back for 35 year-old Jason Arnott and his $4.5 million cap hit?

Is Lou desparate to pull this off so he won’t forever be reminded of what he gave up to rent Kovy for a blown cup run?

If the Kings are really out for good now and Lou can’t make room under the cap will Kovy tuck his tail and run to the KHL?

Will some other team swoop in and grab him for less money?

Stay tuned soap opera fans…..

Brendan

July 8th, 2010
2:41 pm

R.Stroz, all the guesses have both expired and been wrong. The last two eliminees were “FrostyTheSnowMan” with his July 2 guess of Washington and Joe Friday’s guess of New York Rangers on July 1. I thought I posted that already. Looking back, I’m surprised no one guessed Los Angeles. We couldn’t have known that NJ would be Kovy’s trade deadline destination. That last guesses of Atlanta were mine and Ranallo10’s, both of June 30th.

It’s been fun watching this play out. I admire L.A. gumption. They don’t know, not really, if they can keep Jack Johnson, yet they presuppose they will in the quotes about the team’s cap situation, moving forward. Clearly, Drew Doughty will be a top RFA priority, who will likely get a contract that locks him up beyond his RFA years.

Kovalchuk may have to come to an understanding with his agent. If he wants Los Angeles, he’ll have to take it at a lesser price. It’s that, or try for a 1-year deal at $10 million. In Kovy’s shoes, I’d probably settle for a 1-year deal with Detroit, for $4.5 million, and roll the dice that the year ends with a Stanley Cup. And if not, he’s 28 years old, his prime years still ahead of him, and can get some 12-year deal outta somebody.

Tom

July 8th, 2010
3:01 pm

The Red Wings are in according to Kevin Allen:

Red Wings jump in Kovalchuk sweeps and have offered a 1 year deal worth $8.5 million.

Hockey Biltong

July 8th, 2010
3:02 pm

Torchetti[sp] is named associate head coach per CViv.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brendan

July 8th, 2010
3:04 pm

Just tossing this out there … for soap opera giggles. But if Ilya Kovalchuk really, truly wanted to win a Cup for the Thrashers, the team that drafted him, and that his career could never be complete until he achieved that goal, then doing a 1-year deal with the KHL until FUBAS sold the team into more capable hands, would be one way to go. He could collect his $14-15 million, with bonus, in Russia, then return the following season, and I doubt his fellow players would look down on him. He was, technically, the highest paid hockey player in the World, at that point. GM’s, including Atlanta’s, would be interested in his services, when Ilya turns 28.

Now, answer truthfully, would you be dancing the Charleston if Kovy had accepted that $101 million/12-year offer? We’d never be able to roll 3 quality lines, with one player gobbling up that much cap space on an ‘internal cap’ budget.

Tom

July 8th, 2010
3:05 pm

Correction, that past comment was from NHLSourcesSays not Kevin Allen. My apologies.

Brendan

July 8th, 2010
3:06 pm

Glovesave29, I don’t think Kovy wants any GM to get the bright idea that trading him when he’s 38, 39, or 40 to some disadvantaged market like Phoenix is a good idea. So, at $8.5 million, at age 39, the other GM will pass on a trade for him. It allows him to stay where he wants to be.

glovesave29

July 8th, 2010
3:07 pm

Always good for a laugh…

Eklund (snicker, snicker) is reporting the latest offer from the Devils is 17 years 100 million – VERY front loaded.

glovesave29

July 8th, 2010
3:09 pm

Brendan – at that age – he can just retire if he doesn’t like his new digs. He can alway ask for a NTC.

Brendan

July 8th, 2010
3:10 pm

WBF, I still think San Jose needs to be looking at Jose Theodore or Marty Turco, and not just rest with Niittymaki.

Brendan

July 8th, 2010
3:11 pm

Glovesave29, but then the team can pull a “Dan Boyle” on him, and strongarm him into waiving that NTC or they’ll simply put him on waivers, where some bottom feeder team can claim him.

R. Stroz

July 8th, 2010
3:15 pm

Thrashers name Torchetti associate head coach

Brendan

July 8th, 2010
3:15 pm

Glovesave29, 17 years pays Ilya until he’s 43. I’d hope that the NHL league offices would investigate. Specifically, to see if the option of “early retirement” were ever discussed. For if Kovy retires at 38, with 5 years left on his $100 million deal, that would have certainly changed the cap hit parameters.

Lou is a “weasel” when it comes to the cap. Remember one year, he was over the cap, but got the league to do some longterm IR on a player, while another player under contract failed to report. Or something like that. The end result was … that NJ was actually over the cap on Opening Night. But the NHL agreed that there were mitigating circumstances and allowed it.

Brendan

July 8th, 2010
3:16 pm

Hey, Dudley got his guy, after all! I guess when you’re $10 million the cap, there’s a little wiggle room for coaches salaries!

glovesave29

July 8th, 2010
3:23 pm

I hear ya Brendan – it is Eklund after all. There is about a (hmmmmm) 0% chance of anything like this happening.

Tom

July 8th, 2010
3:46 pm

Welcome Torch!

And have a happy Birthday tomorrow. You share the day with my eldest son so you should be honored. :)

Smoothie

July 8th, 2010
4:16 pm

Jesus, just when I give up on ANYTHING happening today in the world of hockey, we go ahead and hire a coach! Actually, Torch finally made up his mind. Kovy only has about another week to go to outlast Torchetti.

Welcome Torch! You’re gonna be awfully happy here in ATL. Just a hunch.

rob

July 8th, 2010
4:20 pm

Good for LA. I hope everyone sees that kind of money is ridiculous for him. To Russia with joy. Enough about him. Only time I want to see him in Thrasher blue again is when somebody is checking him.
Any more news on Cormier’s court case? Could that be the reason they aren’t skating Monday? As bad as the hit was, the guy didn’t suffer permanent damage and was himself suspended for an illegal hit as well. This opens a can of worms going forward IMO. Guess we will see.

rob

July 8th, 2010
4:22 pm

Trixie,
Any chance you can find my post? Thank you.

Brendan

July 8th, 2010
4:32 pm

I know he’s peddler of misinformation, but I wouldn’t put it past Sweet Lou to pull some shenanigans like this. I just hope the league will scrutinize any contract that pays a 20-something year old until he’s 40-something, with an appropriate declination. As in, “No, re-work the contract.” Otherwise, some of these GM’s will just try to manipulate the cap hit, by extending years that will, in fact, never get played or paid.

World Be Free

July 8th, 2010
5:34 pm

Remember when we talked about getting both Torch and Rammer and so many posters said it would never happen cuz ASG was too cheap? Well…..

Welcome to ATL Torch! All we need is a goaltender coach.

Brendan-I wonder how much more $$$ has under the Cap? Maybe the Sharks believe Greiss is ready to be a number 1?

We will know Eklund is full of it when he predicts Kovy is going to Buffalo!

Smoothie

July 8th, 2010
6:08 pm

WBF – how about Kevin Weekes or Clint Malarchuk?! You know we would increase our ratio of puck bunnies in ATL if Weeksie were to come here.

Red Light

July 8th, 2010
6:21 pm

Dan Bouchard, Atlanta resident!

Dwayne

July 8th, 2010
7:01 pm

Now we can Torch Atlanta. It’s a good day to be a Thrasher fan.

World Be Free

July 8th, 2010
9:43 pm

Smoothie-R/L–Bouchard!

R. Stroz

July 8th, 2010
9:52 pm

I’d like to make an announcement tomorrow.

At 10:00 PM ET, I’ll announce where I’ll be seated for next season’s Thrashers games.

Stay Tuned.

R. Stroz

July 8th, 2010
10:02 pm

Thank you for tuning in…and, without further ado, I’ll be seated in Section 222.

Now everyone can continue with their lives.

World Be Free

July 8th, 2010
10:09 pm

We just have to listen for the cowlbell to know where you are in “The Phil”.

Anyone going to prospect camp this weekend? Looking at Sunday.

R. Stroz

July 8th, 2010
10:22 pm

Section 222 will inundated with vuvuzelas, cowbells, amd bullhorns.

Yes Hookybob, the plurals are intentional.

HookyBob

July 8th, 2010
10:58 pm

Strozer,…now all you need is a harmonica on a holder,..and symbols between your knees.

Hey,….anybody heard from Stendeck lately?

Joe Friday

July 8th, 2010
11:16 pm

Stendec’s gonna love him some Mason. I can hear it now “*%$# Mason-Dixon couldn’t find a puck if it hit his schlong bald head, Mason-Dixon ^%Nashville mother *&%^$# worthless &*%^!”

Remind me not to sit in front of Room 222 again this year . . .

Smoothie

July 8th, 2010
11:26 pm

Bouchard was before my time but its okay with me. Time for that Flames connection now that we’ve got ourselves a blow-”torch” of hockey passion! As for the other assistant, I’m gonna guess Ludzik or Peters, but that’s a DUH5 I spoz.

WBF – damn, I’m going sat cuz the golf course calls on sunday. Hate that ill miss ya there.

R. Stroz

July 8th, 2010
11:40 pm

Joe Bob Friday – You could always sit with us. I promise your ears won’t ring after the game anymore than they would after an AC/DC concert.

Brendan

July 8th, 2010
11:41 pm

Congrats to GaVaHokie. If the wife is gonna bottle feed, go back to work in 3 days. If she’s going a more traditional route, you get to sleep through the night, (she doesn’t,) so every single day off that your company will allow under its medical leave policy.

Brendan

July 8th, 2010
11:45 pm

WBF, per the nhlnumbers.com site, San Jose has just over $7 million in cap space. http://nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?team=SJS&season=1011

Brendan

July 9th, 2010
12:51 am

Anyone else notice that the NHL Network lists its notable available UFA Left Wingers as “Eric Boulton, Buffalo.” First of all, Boulton is not available. Second, Eric Boulton hasn’t played for Buffalo for YEARS. That’s kinda funny.

Dwayne

July 9th, 2010
6:12 am

Just thinking, A lot of us would like to see Max back, right? I would, and if the Octotards could make the $$ right, wouldn’t we rather have Kovy back? If your going to have one figure 8 skater on your roster, it’s a no brainer.