Is there a For Sale sign in Thrasherville’s front yard?

Is there a For Sale sign posted up in Thrasherville’s front yard? Well, according to John Kincade, co-host of the Buck and Kincade Show air weekday afternoons on the Thrashers flagship station 680AM the Fan, the answer is “yes”.

Last Thursday he made it known on on-air that he is quite certain that the Atlanta Spirit, LLC will field offers from interested parties who are willing to purchase Atlanta’s NHL franchise. And he expects this to happen sometime in the next couple of weeks.

Obviously, this type of announcement is bound to raise an eyebrow or two around the Thrasherville community. Sure, it’s been known for some time that the group of eight owners of the Thrashers, Hawks and Philips Arena have bee actively seeking offers to join them…but selling off the Thrashers alone? Well, that’s an interesting bit-o-news.

Recently, I caught up with Kincade and asked him about his assertion that the Thrashers may soon be under new management.

“A am confident in saying that the Atlanta Spirit is fielding offers to just sell the Thrashers”, Kincade told me. “I expect them to receive an offer on the team in the month of July”.

As for what type of offer and whom it may come from, he could not comment on. But he did add, “The group that will make the offer is not the only one that is preparing potential bids”.

Now, every time these types of stories make their way around the NHL blogosphere, many jump to the conclusion that any proposed sale of the team brings with it the possibility of relocation. This stems from the fact that hockey fans in the area have already felt the heartache of losing a team thirty years ago. That, plus our good friends from Canada love to jump on stories such as this and insist that it will led to the franchise making their way up north. So it’s understandable way any such news of a reported pending sale is greeted with a certain amount of anxiety among the Thrashers faithful.

But Kincade points out that these fears are unfounded here.

“It is 100% my belief that [the AS. LLC] would only be interested in selling the Thrasher if the buyer was intent on keeping the team in Atlanta”.

The reason being…if the Spirit boys are able to sell the Thrashers, then they would see a good deal of cash put in their pocket from the transaction. However, they would not want to lose any money that would continue to flow into their cauffers in the way of rent.

As Kincade explains, “The current ownership would benefit financially from the cash influx of the sale of the team and being the landlord to the team for 41 home games a year”.

So, it’s still in the interest of the AS, LLC to have the Thrashers remain even if they are able to sell them.

And while such a scenario would not play to the wishes of the “make it seven” types to our north, it would actually be a positive turn of events for Thrasherville, I believe. If indeed the Thrashers were sold alone…separate from the Hawks and Philips Arena… then they would have an ownership that were not constantly having to decide how to divvy up capital between two different sports franchises. Their loyalties would be with the Thrashers and the Thrashers alone.

Also…and let’s be honest with one another here…the AS, LLC has been about as dysfunctional of an ownership group as can be imagined since they took over in 2004. Of course it’s tough to do a lot of good when most of one’s time and money are spent locked in a court case with 1/8 of the ownership group.

And while the infighting of the team’s ownership may not be the sole factor in why so many high-profile players have opted to bolt for the door the first time they had a chance… it certainly hasn’t helped, that’s for sure.

Either way…it’s just been un-good with those eight sitting at the top of Thrasherville’s totem pole.

As such, any sale of the team that rids the team of The Great Octocluster and keeps them in Atlanta would be welcome news indeed for me.

167 comments Add your comment

Smoothie

July 5th, 2010
12:49 pm

Un premier!!?

Tom

July 5th, 2010
12:58 pm

I ask that the only stipulation of the deal be that Waddell is to remain with the Atlanta Spirit Group.

The Real Thrash

July 5th, 2010
1:07 pm

So Kubina took a pay cut to go to Tampa Bay. Wonder what low-ball deal the Thrashers offerred him?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=5348502

R. Stroz

July 5th, 2010
1:18 pm

Does Kovy turn into an orange turd?

Inquiring tax payers for Lighthouse Project want to know.

Does the ASG find someone that loves hockey?

Please hockey gods, make 2010 ASG Independence Day for Thrasher fans.

R. Stroz

July 5th, 2010
1:23 pm

Wouldn’t it be fun to hold up a sign that states:

“Kovy is an an orange turd”

Should make pregame warm-ups with the Islandturds more fun.

The Real Thrash

July 5th, 2010
1:24 pm

As long as they stay in Atlanta, get rid of Waddell and have nothing to do with the Islanders and the Lighthouse Project I am for it!

Smoothie

July 5th, 2010
1:25 pm

NEW YORK POST: Mark Everson reports superstar UFA winger Ilya Kovalchuk could potentially re-sign with the New Jersey Devils today. Everson claims the Devils have “the inside track” with a seven-year, $60 million offer.

From Spector’s rumor site. How much can we trust the NY Post? NJ would still need to do a lot of roster jostling to fit Ilya under their cap.

If Kovy signs with the Devils, should Dudley go after Jamie Langenbrunner who only has one year left on his $2.8 M / season deal?

The Real Thrash

July 5th, 2010
1:36 pm

Smoothie- That would be our kind of deal and he did score for them.

Koasterchuk

July 5th, 2010
1:39 pm

Smoothie

July 5th, 2010
1:44 pm

TRT – indeed, would love to have his veteran leadership and 2-way skill.

Also, I read somewhere else that we indeed offered Kubina slightly more money than TB, but would not give into the demand of a 3rd year. Thus, he went “home” for less money because he felt undervalued by ATL?

Smoothie

July 5th, 2010
1:47 pm

Oooops! Langenbrunner has a NTC on his deal. Oh well, I think LL would be foolish to trade him, but there isn’t going to be much of a market for Zubrus (way overpaid) and Rolston at 35 y/o making $5 M. Guess Brian will be looking for housing in my old “hood”…Slingerlands is a very tranquil suburban setting! Or Glenmont! LOL

bartdunwoody

July 5th, 2010
1:51 pm

We can only hope the ASG sells out, please, please, please.
This whole looking for new investors thing is a joke. If I had 10 or 20 million is cash in my pocket would I invest with the Octocluster? Would you? Heck no!
If the team is bought by another group please appoint 1 person the managing partner and let 1 person call the shots and not a committee. Or have 1 owner with a 51% stake.

The Real Thrash

July 5th, 2010
1:54 pm

Hey Smoothie, if that’s true about Kubina I guess he gave them the home town discount since that’s where he won the cup.

Thrashers27

July 5th, 2010
1:56 pm

Sounds like Kovy is sticking with NJ. At least we’ll only have to see him four times next year.

World Be Free

July 5th, 2010
2:06 pm

I don’t believe any of this selling the Thrashers BS. And it’s not the kind of distraction we need at this juncture when we are trying to move this team forward, especially when the bloody vultures in Canada will want to find some way to highjack this team up north.

So let’s just put this one to bed right now so we don’t have to listen to all of the BS that will not translate anything positive on the ice.

World Be Free

July 5th, 2010
2:13 pm

If the Kovy story is true, well then I guess I was not correct about what Kovy would make with a competitive team. The rumored contract would pay Kovy roughly .825 cents on the dollar compared to what Atlanta was offering. It is less years and $43M less in commitment compared to what we offered. By doing this, Lou is committing 14.7% of his salary cap to our player hoping the cap does not go down in the future cuz he’s stuck woth Kovy now. I have no idea how Lou Lam can hope to field a Cup contending team committing so much to one player and having a team that is very long in the tooth.

Red Light

July 5th, 2010
2:17 pm

Not only that World Be Free, but it’s only news when the deal is signed and approved by the NHL. And, you all know how long that stuff takes, particularly when you still have three separate ownership units that have to approve the sale. Sure, it could happen, but even if the sale goes through, what do fans stand to gain in the process? More money to invest in players? Maybe. Higher ticket prices when the team improves a la Arthur Blank? Yes. New team president? Wishful thinking.

Back to the Jersey saga…Parise is a restricted free agent next summer, but Arnott and Langenbrunner deals are up, which frees $7.3 million for Zach. Marty retires with a deal left on his $5.2 million deal, and Lou uses more entry level types. Plausible scenarios.

Brendan

July 5th, 2010
2:25 pm

I’ll fall over, if that’s true, because my guess was 7-years/$60 million, by “whichever” team signs him. I don’t know that Dudley wants to do a NJ salary-dump like Rolston or Zubrus. I gotta say it, I just don’t see Kovalchuk fitting in, longterm, on a Lou Lamoriello, defensively-sound team. At least on Long Island, he could skate his figure 8’s to his heart’s content. And I’m sure he’ll come close to potting 50 goals playing that style. But if it’s the Islanders, they have a lot of RFAs to re-sign in the next two years, plus this guy name Tavares, who we all might have heard of. And whose Islander team would it be, Kovy’s or JT’s?? Of course, I don’t believe Kovy will go to the Islanders. And if he does, he’s an idiot, and it was all about the money. At least in NJ, he can claim “1st class organization,” and “Cup contender.” Etc. But if the Devils must shed payroll, let’s not help them any. They’re the ones who MUST dump players. We’re not giving up O’Dell, or Machacek, or Holzapfel, or Stapleton. Or Kulda. If they want Esposito, fine. If they want Valabik, I think I can live with that, too.

Smoothie

July 5th, 2010
2:34 pm

Rumor is that even though Gagne agreed to waive his NTC, the Kings are not in the running for his services. Would anyone like to see Gagne in Thrasher blue flanking Antropov on the top line? I know his price-tag is a bit steep, but he only has one year left on his $5.25 M contract.

Should we run into trouble with Allan Walsh again w/r/t re-upping Pavelec, perhaps the Flyers would be interested in taking him on as their # 1 of the future to play withe Leighton? I’m thinking a trade scenario such as the following:

ATL gets: Gagne, Boucher, 2012 2nd rdr & the RFA rights to Darrol Powe

PHI gets: Pavelec, RFA rights to C-Mac & a 2011 3rd rdr

Our line-up would look pretty formidable with such a proven goal-scorer in the top 6:

Bergie-Antro-Gagne

Buffy-Pevs-Kaner

Ladd-Slates-Lits

Eager-Powe-Thorbs

World Be Free

July 5th, 2010
2:41 pm

Smoothie-0not sure on Gagne, I am more focused on getting our guys locked up long term. He’s a talent no question and would help us if he can stay healthy. Taking his salary also frees Philly to get the # goalie they need, so there is an indirect price to “helping” Phillly.

R/L-tough economy for sports teams, unless you want to get full dollar by selling them to a Canadian concern. That’s why this is such bad timing, if it is all true. Just like Kopvalchuk’s contract courtship dance last season-on ebig distraction which is not needed.

Lou knows what he is doing, I just don’t see tying that much money in a player would is not a complete player. And we know Kovy is not complete, heck he didn’t even light the lamp much in NJ last season. That’s a $60M bet on Lou’s part. Must be nice to play with other people’s millions.

Thrashers27

July 5th, 2010
2:42 pm

Really, Brendan? You wouldn’t want to lose Holzapfel, O’Dell, Stapelton or Machachek? I really wonder if any of those guys will ever pan out. Seems like Holzapfel has been in the mix forever. Stapleton is Brett Sterling part 2…although he did look alright in his brief stint here in Atlanta, but Sterling showed a flash too…once. I don’t know, I just don’t see those guys as the caliber of players you protect. I’d rather see what Espo does in a full season before writing him off and I really think Boris is starting to show real promise. You gotta admit he made great progress last year in learning how to use his size without drawing ridiculous penalties and I felt that his skating had improved. In fatct, he made a couple of rushes last season that made me wonder if Enstrom had grown a foot taller. I have great hopes for him in the coming season.

Brendan

July 5th, 2010
2:43 pm

Smoothie, if Gagne were willing to accept coming to Atlanta, I’d do that deal right now. And so would Dudley. Waddell might intervene to say, “our internal cap, fellas. Sorry.” But truthfully, that’s a risk worth taking. A year of Gagne puts Atlanta into the playoffs this season. The risk is, “What if Pavelec becomes this great goaltender? We gave him up for one-year of Gagne.” And we only have Chris Mason for one more year beyond the upcoming season. And really, Mannino doesn’t seem anywhere near close to NHL-ready. So, trading Pavelec is a delicate matter. I’d prefer to trade him for at least another RFA with a bright future. Boucher, I assume, would only be a 1-year deal, as well. We would own Boucher’s right until July 2011, if we thought of re-signing him.

The Real Thrash

July 5th, 2010
2:47 pm

First thing the off-season IS the time to talk about selling the team. Not during the season. And with regards to signing players to long term contracts you are talking about the Thrashers right? When have we done that lately? Let the owners concentrate on getting someone who knows hockey and knows players and then have Dudley and Ramsey run the team. Then that owner can say Adios Waddell!

Tom

July 5th, 2010
2:48 pm

From NHLSources on Twitter:

I’m hearing Atlanta might be back in on Kovalchuk. Not confirmed via Tom Gulitti.

If this is the case then my wild prognostication of the Thrashers bringing back Kovalchuk may not have been all that far fetched.

For the hardcore fans like us it will not be seen as a big move, but for the average fan who only saw Thrashers marketing, this will be the move of the century.

And we have the money to do it.

Smoothie

July 5th, 2010
2:49 pm

Yeah, it’s an interesting scenario to think about but I don’t think we’ll do anything like it unless Pavelec’s agent tries to hold us hostage. There are plenty of other free-agent wingers out there who could be had for less than $3 M per year. And I’m sure there are way more trade scenarios out there for Duds to chew on.

Also, when it comes to signing a D-man as a depth-hedge for Valabik & Kulda, it might be good to look in the direction of Mike Weaver, who only made $800 k last season. According to Andy Strickland, who is always on top of the Blues’ news, Weaver is not coming back to StL:

“Word is D-man Mike Weaver will not be brought back next season. This guy will have no problem landing on his feet somewhere as several teams have expressed interest.”

He’s cheaper than or at the least no more expensive than Schubert and less penalty prone. He’d probably be effective regardless of how many games he gets to play…just a sold, veteran D-man who can stabilize a bottom pairing. Just what you would want!

The Real Thrash

July 5th, 2010
2:50 pm

Way too great to be true!

Tom

July 5th, 2010
2:54 pm

Brendan

July 5th, 2010
2:55 pm

Oh, but World Be Free, didn’t you know? We’d all be cr-pping in our pants if we had to make these deals. (Unlike the mastermind, Don Waddell, who apparently does them before breakfast.) :roll: Ya know, the part people who like to think that way conveniently forget is … you’re FORCED to spend to the FLOOR. So, like it or not, as GM, you must spend $43 million — your comfort-level be damned — if the cap is $59 million. Or $43.5, if the cap is $59.5. You get the point.

Simon Gagne is money in the playoffs. The Flyers do NOT overcome that 3-0 series deficit to Boston WITHOUT him. He scores big goals in the playoffs. He bring intangibles. If we could lock him up …. Yeah, I know. Keep dreaming.

Red Light

July 5th, 2010
2:56 pm

Love Gagne but not sure he’d agree to a deal here. He may have waived his NTC, but I’m sure he can still choose parameters on where he wants to go. He did play for Ramsay in Philly so that’s a plus. He’s only 30, but the Thrashers are still batting at a low percentage of getting guys re-signed. What do you want to pay him when he turns 31? Another $5.25 million or more? Only 58 goals in last 162 games, or one goal for every 2.8 games played. A lot to play for 29 goals a season.

Smoothie

July 5th, 2010
3:03 pm

R/L – I wouldn’t bring in Gagne with the preconceived notion of trying to re-sign him at such a high price-tag. If things don’t go well, he’d have big-time trade value at the deadline and we could re-stock the prospect shelves in 2011 or 2012 with some picks. Obviously it’s very risky giving up on Pavelec, but it’s not as though we don’t have goalies in the system: Mannino, Pasquale, Carrozzi, Freddie P-Wenzel now along with Kangas and McIntyre. Or we could still sign Theodore or Robert Esche for cheap if you don’t want Boucher. The Flyers have proven you can get by without a true # 1. However, after giving up on Lehts, I’d be a bit hesitant to cut bait on Pavs just yet. Just throwing it out there for giggles.

Red Light

July 5th, 2010
3:09 pm

No way a 22-year-old goalie gets swapped for an injury-prone 30 -year-old forward in my opinion.

Dudley has repeatedly said he likes Pavelec.

World Be Free

July 5th, 2010
3:10 pm

Real Thrash, yeah I understand our past, like you I have lived it. I am just looking at what makes sense for the future. If you make the deals, you obviously want the players whre so why not lock them up for the future? We have to make ATL a preferred destination and you do that by showing a long term commitment (I can hear you laughing all the way to Kennesaw).

Brendan and Smoothie-Gagne would help us, like these 2 Chicago deals will help us-right now! I like Smoothie’s proposed deal, just not sure I want to help bail out Philly or NJ (if Kovy signs there). But Gagne is money in the playoffs, that’s for sure.

Brendan

July 5th, 2010
3:17 pm

Red Light, that is the question. Isn’t it? Out on the open market, Simon Gagne is going to get paid. Probably more than we can afford. But that’s a good player to have, even overpaid. I think his production has been hampered by injuries. But in the playoffs, I don’t really question him, even if his production is sorta of averaging a point every other game. When big goals have to be scored, he has a hand in them. And can we begin to put a price tag on what overtime goals might be worth in the postseason?

I suppose the answer is, “yes.” I defer to an episode of the Simpsons, where a home security salesman has come to Homer’s door, to ask, “Can you really put a price tag on the safety and security of your family??” And Homer says, “I wouldn’t have thought so, either. Yet, here we are.” As he slams the door shut on the salesman.

Tom, Ilya Kovalchuk has not made a lot of friends in Atlanta since he left. Thrasher fans essentially fall into two camps. (1) Those who love Ilya, and blame ownership/management, and (2) those who feel Ilya is a very selfish, egocentric player, who fired a shot across our bow with the statement, “It’s nice to finally play for a 1st class organization.” To quote Austin Powers, “Ouch, baby. Very ouch.”

I think most people, even those who adore Kovalchuk, realize that he is an incomplete player. If he improved his defensive play, then the money starts to become justified. But what would happen, in Atlanta, if “offered and accepted” at $10 million-per-season, is that Craig Ramsay, who’d make somewhere between $600,000 to $800,000, gets fired before the player making $10 million-per-annum. That’s YET ANOTHER danger in locking up Kovalchuk. He holds the power and control. He has the ability, at that point, to be the Jaromir Jagr “Coach killer.” If Craig Ramsay says, “play defense, Ilya. Or sit on the bench. Or up in the pressbox,” when push comes to shove, Ramsay will be shown the door. The paying customers came to see Kovalchuk. No, I think Atlanta has wisely chosen the “depth strategy” approach for the market and situation they find themselves in. If we go back to being a “Kovalchuk-centered” team, we’ll be easy to shut down. It’s better to roll 3-4 lines, where everyone can notch 16-22 goals, and have balance. In that case, who does the other team’s coach “focus on?” Our 1st time? Our 2nd line? Or 3rd line, that’s putting up good numbers, too? Our depth becomes our strength, and the best player on the team becomes the TEAM, itself. If you follow. I know Atlanta likes “stars.” That’s what people who are not native Atlantans want, since their home team plays elsewhere. But I think, in the end, winning games will bring in more people than star players.

Putting On The Foil

July 5th, 2010
3:18 pm

It would make more sense for Kovy to come back to Atlanta as opposed to being an orange turd if winning was truly his motivation for leaving to start with. That would be a helluva coup for the Thrash, now wouldn’t it?

Thrashers27

July 5th, 2010
3:22 pm

No freakin way!!! I don’t know whether I would be pi**ed, or jump for joy. Don’t see it happenin’ though.

Kovy's a Devil

July 5th, 2010
3:25 pm

He’s signed sealed and delivered to NJ…..7 yrs. $60 mil.

Brendan

July 5th, 2010
3:27 pm

Putting on the Foil, it’d be one thing if there had been some “secret agreement” that Atlanta were just renting him to NJ, with the plan that he’d return the following season, with the windfall pieces of his rental in place. I really don’t think that’s happened.

I’ve cut the cord with Kovy. Quite a while ago. And I’d have mixed feelings about his return, especially if he gets his “asking price.”

Hockey Biltong爽

July 5th, 2010
3:31 pm

Bring on the new owners!!!!!!

former AIZer JD

July 5th, 2010
3:35 pm

Kovy is not a Devil. Not yet. They would have to dump a bunch of salary just to sign him for that long. That NY Post report was changed right after it was posted and si.com and tsn.ca have yet to change there sites.
If the Thrashers are back in the mix, like some are reporting, not sure how to take that. I guess if the ASG wants to give 119 mil to Joe Johnson, why not give a bunch to Kovy. But team wise, could it work? Again, not sure my feelings on it. But I think by end of today we’ll know where he goes.

Rawhide

July 5th, 2010
3:36 pm

Although they are not yet citing it’s officially done yet, TSN is reporting Kovy’s possible deal with NJ to be 7 years and $60 million…which is about $8.57 mil per year. TSN is referrencing the NYP story.

He turned down 10 million for 3, 5 or 7 years to sign here last winter.

Also, the Thrashers offered him $100 million over 12 years…which would have been right at the same money he is reported to be agreeing to with the Devils but for almost twice the amount of time.

Brendan

July 5th, 2010
3:40 pm

TSN.CA reports that Kovalchuk is “on the verge” of signing of signing with the Devils, but that it wasn’t a done deal, just yet.

Also at that site, I found this nugget, about Ladd opting for salary arbitration. http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=326656. The hightlights of which are this: Arbitration cases will be heard between July 20th and August 5th in Toronto. A player can still sign or agree to a new deal with his team up until the arbitrator’s ruling. Both Ladd and Raymond could be awarded as much as $3 million per season, which would be a substantial raise on what they earned last season. Ladd made $1.65 million while helping the Chicago Blackhawks capture the Stanley Cup before being traded to the Thrashers in exchange for Ivan Vishnevskiy and a draft pick.

I don’t necessarily take this as a sign Ladd wants to leave Atlanta, especially after reading Chris Vivlamore’s article. But I do see it as his agent looking at Atlanta’s cap and thinking, “They’ve got the money to give you a raise, Mr. Ladd. Let’s opt for arbitration.”

former AIZer JD

July 5th, 2010
3:41 pm

The Real Thrash

July 5th, 2010
3:44 pm

World B Free-You’ve got that right! But are we expecting the team to do more in terms of contract length than before? And with regards to making Atlanta a destination most players want to win and is that something we can offer right now? Braves are having the same problem now after being the place to play.

Rawhide

July 5th, 2010
3:45 pm

I don’t believe any of this selling the Thrashers BS. And it’s not the kind of distraction we need at this juncture when we are trying to move this team forward, especially when the bloody vultures in Canada will want to find some way to highjack this team up north.

WBF – Actually, if indeed such talks are being made…I’d much rather them do it now than the middle of the season. As for the “make it seven” types, well…it doesn’t matter what does or doesn’t happen when it come to them. As long as Atlanta remains below the Mason-Dixon line, they will always chirp about the team moving. I simply choose to ignore them.

Bill, That TSN report was based on the original NY Post report

former AIZer JD – Yup…as was cited. BTW, how ya been?

The Real Thrash

July 5th, 2010
3:46 pm

And about Ladd this was my comment at the time of the trade. Will we sign him to a one year deal or make a longterm contract offer. World B, this is where the rubber meets the road. This will offer insight into the teams’s mindset.

Brendan

July 5th, 2010
3:59 pm

A cap hit of $8.571 million for Kovalchuk, in his prime years of 27-33 could well turn out to be worth it for the Devils. I just hope, for their sakes, he plays defense.

World Be Free

July 5th, 2010
4:04 pm

You are correct Mr. Rawhide, I just got tired to the sell talks last season and was glad to have them set aside. You guys are all correct in your statements that it is better to have the talks now then during the campaign.

Real Thrash-winning does make things easier. I am glad you brought up the Braves, once a premier destination for free agents, they had to grossly overpay Derek Lowe to get him to come here. He is nowhere near the best pitcher on this staff, paid $15M/season to pitch batting practice for th eopposing teams.

Brendan

July 5th, 2010
4:04 pm

Rawhide, if Atlanta cannot come to terms with Pavelec, or opt to trade him, however unrealistic that seems, would you want 34-year Jose Theodore? Would $3.1 million be an acceptable price for him, in your view? And would you feel good about Mason-Theodore in the Atlanta nets? (It’s just blog for speculation, nobody’s saying anything of the sort is happening, or even might happen. We bounce ideas here. That’s all.)

Red Light

July 5th, 2010
4:07 pm

Brendan: The reason he filed for arbitration is only if the Thrashers don’t meet his demands, he is “protected” in getting the money he feels entitled to. Nothing else should be read into it. I doubt they’ve even discussed a contract yet, as Ladd’s first day home in BC was two days ago. It’s commonplace for all players to do so. Fleischmann filed in Washington today as well. There’s just one hour left to file for arbitration.

The Real Thrash

July 5th, 2010
4:10 pm

World B-on point let’s see what the team does now in regards to contracts to make us that destination. Winning cures all ills.
I’M out!