Dudley keeps balance at draft by not losing arm and leg

The Atlanta Thrashers have now wrapped up their first entry draft with Rick Dudley as general manager. In the end, the grabbed up nine prospects…one each in the first, third and fourthrounds, then two in the fifth, three sixth-round picks and one in the seventh.

Atlanta had no pick in the second round as it was traded it away to Chicago Wednesday night in a multi-player trade. But Dudley made it known he was willing to make a deal to procure one.

Only the price wasn’t right for Mr. Dudley, and so they went without.

“We tried to move up, but teams were asking an arm and a leg”, He told Chris Vivlamore. “In some cases, the player they wanted was still available and they asked way too much”.

But as Dudley put it, it really didn’t matter because they wound up with the type of prospect they were looking for anyway. “Melchiori was one of the players we were trying to move up to take. We were pretty happy with how it worked out”.

Here is a quick recap of the players that were drafted into the Thrashers’ organization over the weekend:

Round One: Alexander Burmistrov selected with the 8th overall pick. He’s a 5’-11”, 157-pound center from Russia currently playing with the Barrie Colts of the OHL.

Round Three: Julian Melchiori selected with the 87th overall pick. He’s a 6’-3”, 186-pound Canadian defenseman who played last season for the Newmarket Hurricanes of the CCHL.

Round Four: The 101st pick had the Thrashers taking select Ivan Telegin, a 6’’-2:”,194-pound Russian left wing who plays with Saginaw of the OHL.

Round Five: With the 128th overall pick in the fifth round, the Thrashers picked up a goalie, Fredrik Pettersson-Wentzel. He’s a 6’-1”, 169-pound Swede who plays with Almtuna of the Sweden’s Junior League.

The 150th overall selection in the fifth round was used to take Canadian Yasin Casse, a 6’-3”, 210 lb. right wing who plays for Des Moines of the USHL. Casse missed the majority of last season with a torn tendon in his ankle.

Round Six: With the 158th overall pick in the sixth round, The Thrashers selected Kendal McFaull. He’s a 6’-2”, 187-pound Canadian defenseman currently with Moose Jaw of the WHL.

The Thrashers then dealt their way to another pair of sixth round picks…giving up next year’s fifth rounder. With 160th overall, they took Tanner Lane, 6’-2” high school center from Minnesota. With the 169th pick they chose Sebastian Owuya, 6’-3”, 194 lb. Swedish defender who plays with the Timra JR squad.

Round Seven: Atlanta had dealt away their seventh round choice earlier in the week as part of the trade with San Jose. However, Dudley was able to get one Saturday and with it he finished the weekend’s work by picking Canadian defenseman Peter Stoykewych…a 6’-2”, 188-pound who plays with Winnipeg South of the MJHL.

What grade would you give the Thrashers draft?

  • A - Fantastic (5%, 8 Votes)
  • B - Very Good (47%, 70 Votes)
  • C - Not Bad (43%, 64 Votes)
  • D - Disappointing (5%, 7 Votes)
  • F - Fail (0%, 1 Votes)

Total Voters: 150

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To procure those late round picks, the Thrashers sent their fifth round selection in the 2011 draft to the Islanders for picks number 155 and 160. The sixth round selection will go to the Kings next year for the 169th and 199th pick this summer.

The Thrashers spread their nine draft picks all over the ice as they selected four forwards, four defenseman and one goaltender. Of the forwards, there are two centers, a left and right winger. Also, the Thrashers balanced out the picks in regards to European and North American players. Four of the picks came from across the pond…two Russian and two Swedish. The other five were from this side of the Atlantic, an American and four Canadians.

For me…if there can be one word that describes this 2010 Thrasherville draft class, the one that pops into mind is “balanced”. And they obtained this “balance” by not losing “an arm and a leg’ in a heat-of-the-moment type of trade.

As for my feelings about the quality of the picks…well, I’m one of those who thinks true analysis of a draft cannot really be made until the prospects have had time to develop and mature. Since this can take years, any such “snap judgement” should be viewed in that light.

That said, my initial thoughts are that Dudley and Co. seem to have done a decent job stocking the shelves this weekend and should get a solid grade for their efforts.

54 comments Add your comment

Swede

June 27th, 2010
7:02 am

bugman

June 27th, 2010
9:25 am

Jumping up and down over this draft is like getting excited about a 20 year savings bond.

Any idea what the percentage of draftees making it to actual starting players in the NHL is?

World Be Free

June 27th, 2010
9:25 am

Good quantity; we’ll find out if this was a good draft in 4-5 years.

World Be Free

June 27th, 2010
9:43 am

I took a look at the 1996 draft and counted how many players from each round made it to the NHL (by name recognition)-

First round- 21
Second round- 10
Third round- 7
Fourth round- 4
Fifth round- 1
Sixth round- 6
Seventh round-4
Eight round- 4
Ninth round- 3

Sami Salo was the 239th out of 241 picks and he’s still in the league.
Tomas Kaberle, the focus of so much trade attention was taken 204th.

Safe to say the NHL draft is a crap shoot.

World Be Free

June 27th, 2010
10:00 am

How time flies-Jarred Tinordi goes to Montreal, I recall that his Dad, Mark Tinordi was once Thrasher’s property but he never played here.

Reading alot this morning, seeing those teams that still have cap issues and bad contracts to deal with. Makes you want to shy away from long term deals, in the sense that you could get stuck with an “anchor contract”, a deal that could keep you from obtaining a player that you want.

The draft is over, now we must focus our attention to UFAs. I think the Thrashers are going to sign a center or a goaltender. I am leaning towards the latter and there are some good goalies out there.

Flagstaff

June 27th, 2010
10:51 am

World Be Free: Yet Duds claims that he’s fine with the Moose and Squirrel duo. Any thoughts?

The Real Thrash

June 27th, 2010
11:12 am

Please note how many are going to play in college so we won’t see them for years.
Also Dudley said he targeted Melchiori in the second round if he made a trade and everyone else passed on him I suppose. Sounds like Waddell speaking.

Lee

June 27th, 2010
11:28 am

I’ll just say this. I’m not a scouter and I don’t plan to be, so I know nothing of Burmistrov, so I really can’t say if the pick was fantastic or not, but I trust Dudley and we’ll find out how good this kid is when the season starts….

Drop the puck. PLEASE!

Red Light

June 27th, 2010
12:23 pm

The Bruins traded forward Vladimir Sobotka to the St. Louis Blues for the rights to defenseman David Warsofsky. That means the Bruins continue to unload contracts as Sobotka is an RFA probably due more than $1 million this year.

According to a report by Tim Panaccio on CSNPhilly.com, the Flyers have acquired Evgeni Nabokov from the San Jose Sharks. The deal would see the Flyers send a 2011 seventh-round pick to the Sharks if they can sign Nabokov before he becomes an unrestricted free agent July 1. The tactic didn’t work with Hamhuis but maybe it will with Nabokov. Holmgren’s got $10 million in cap space but need to re-sign RFAs Coburn, Powe, Carcillo, and will need at least one more defenseman. All that means that if they sign Nabby they’ll have to deal at least one or two more. So, Carter could be available.

Red Light

June 27th, 2010
12:28 pm

Not that it will happen, but Bergfors-Carter-Antropov has a nice acronym to go with it, the ABC line.

Sage of Bluesland

June 27th, 2010
12:31 pm

“…any such “snap judgement” should be viewed in that light….”

Yep–and that goes in either direction. Most of these guys will be Waddell-specials and whose only contribution will be to fill the back of the booklets under the section, “Legends of Blueland”…and will provide constant, delusional, hope for the sheep that they will be real stars at the big-boy level…

Here’s to hoping “Duds” found all the gems–but the odds are strongly against it. The picks which cannot fail are those top-tens–but that’s even fraught with peril.

Here’s to another “Five-Year Plan” and hoping the results are different this time around…

Alan R.

June 27th, 2010
12:36 pm

Sounds like GM speaking.

I took the liberty of repairing your statement. Dudley was the man speaking, not Waddell.

Sage of Bluesland

June 27th, 2010
12:53 pm

I think the poll should have a category for “Unable to determine–Incomplete”. Anyone who thinks it was ‘great’ is just whistling Dixie (as with anyone who states it is a fail).

Heck, based on Don Waddell’s bluster for the past decade, you would have thought that all was well and that we–ALWAYS–got the player we wanted all along…

I don’t know how “Duds” did–and nobody does, either…We will see in three to five years or so years time, though. All positive or negative assertions are worth just as much as Donnie’s bluster…

R. Stroz

June 27th, 2010
12:55 pm

The RFA’s MUST be tendered tomorrow. Wouldn’t it have been nice to get some of them under contract into their UFA years.

I’m still smelling a pattern. Think procrastination and lack of retention.

Is it deja vu all over again?

Red Light

June 27th, 2010
1:04 pm

R. Stroz: I think only one RFA “re-signing” will be a problem with the rest going easily. Care to guess who?

Hey, broken record

June 27th, 2010
1:07 pm

Shut the $%#! up!!!!

World Be Free

June 27th, 2010
1:11 pm

Flagstaff-I am uneasy with our goaltending. Not sure we can expect Moose to repeat last season; Opie has yet to emerge as a number one. We need to reduce our dependence on goalies stopping so many shots each game. Hopefully, Rammer will require greater defensive responsibility in our forwards that Anderson did.

Take a look at the 1996 draft numbers I posted earlier, you will see that the NHL Draft is a crap shoot at best. You are trying to judge a player at 18 when there is alot more physcial and mental maturity required to make the jump even to the minor leagues. The one on one interviews are just as important as watching the prospect play and judging the talent they have played against to bring them to this point. You just hope that the current regime is better at judging talent.

R. Stroz

June 27th, 2010
1:16 pm

Red Light – I’ll go with Pavelec and his wonderful agent, Walsh.

Smoothie

June 27th, 2010
1:44 pm

Stroz – u r starting to sound like Sage on the RFA stuff. Only 4 or 5 teams have tendered their RFAs to date. All teams are working on them today for tomorrow’s deadline.

But yes, Walsh will be a thorn in the side again since Pavs has been annointed #1 status in the press. Trade bait for a center and sign Mason?

Smoothie

June 27th, 2010
2:12 pm

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Puck-Daddy-chats-with-Thrashers-Burmistrov-Cap?urn=nhl,251655

Kid Alex sounds pretty convincing and determined to make an impression at rookie camp in July. I look forward to seeing him skate circles around our other prospects. Interesting that while he’s apparently still under contract, Ak bars Kazan has let him out of his deal.

If he doesn’t make the team though, I still fear he might go back for one year of play in Russia. Once these agents start whispering in these kid’s ears, you never know what they might do. But for now, I’m willing to give Alex the benefit of the doubt since he seems to have such strong convictions. Time will tell…

kracker

June 27th, 2010
2:25 pm

I really don’t see an RFA signing problem. You’re probably meaning Pavs but he didn’t have the kind of season that says “pay me.” If his agent forces things into the unrealistic realm, then I look to trade both of them, meaning get rid of the agent as well.

Jameson

June 27th, 2010
2:41 pm

Smothie- As long as they’re circles and not figure-8’s.

Smoothie

June 27th, 2010
2:44 pm

Jameson – ha, very true! But by several accounts, he is a very aggressive back-checking center who prides himself on 2-way play.

We shall see. Should he develop into the type of player scouts say he can be, then a future line featuring Kane-Burmie-Big Buff is quite tantalizing to say the least.

R. Stroz

June 27th, 2010
2:47 pm

Remember two years ago, Pavs agent told him NOT to report to Chicago when he didn’t make the final roster cut for the regular season.

I could say more about Walsh, but agreed not to do so.

Rawhide

June 27th, 2010
3:04 pm

Not that it will happen, but Bergfors-Carter-Antropov has a nice acronym to go with it, the ABC line

Red Light – Or the “CAB” line…sure to give any defense a rough ride?

sorry…

I think the poll should have a category for “Unable to determine–Incomplete”. Anyone who thinks it was ‘great’ is just whistling Dixie (as with anyone who states it is a fail).

Sage – Good point….and actually, I thought about that. Like I said in the post, any “true analysis of a draft cannot really be made until the prospects have had time to develop and mature”. So of course any grade given is speculation until that time.

But the results of the poll will be interesting to look back on years down the road to compare the results with how the players actually turned out.

R. Stroz

June 27th, 2010
4:20 pm

The absolute worst thing about the trade to the Blackhawks was Joey Crabb being included.

I really enjoyed watching Razor Catch Prey do his Crab Dance.

Hockey Biltong

June 27th, 2010
4:25 pm

I hope we pick up a centre and a keeper… only time will tell.

World Be Free

June 27th, 2010
5:08 pm

I don’t think Patrick Kane would want to have anything to do with the CAB line.

I also believe the trade for Eager, Sopel and Buff would indicate that the desire is to win sooner than later (compared to the suggested five year plan). We shall see – there’s more work to be done before this team can truly challenge. I’d still like to see which prospect is going to really push for a spot here.

Biltong has it right-either a center or a goaltender. I still have an issue with this organization not having another keeper close to being NHL-ready.

HookyBob

June 27th, 2010
5:08 pm

OK,..the draft, with all its’ unknowns (including Rumfield’s unknown unknowns), is behind us. Our picks are fine by me,…the potential (and “in Duds I trust” reputation) allow me sleep to comfortably.

Bloggers I’ve a bunch of questions. Now we are looking at RFA tenders,…and URF < 80 hours away.

RFA tenders are pretty much a process right? You make the player an offer and they take it or file for arbitration. (Offers from other teams come into play,…but that is not common,..and with our guys,..it is unheard of. Don't get me wrong , it could happen,…and there is always a first time.)

So what are Pavs (and his agent's), and Duds options in the time between tender sheets and RAF (72 or 48 Hrs?). "Who do you love" when it comes to UFA goalies? This does have an (big) impact on our UFA priorities right?

Not sure how this plays into the mix but I'd still like to see us sign a good goalie coach.

HookyBob

June 27th, 2010
7:26 pm

Bill: We were out of town this weekend. Sorry to have missed you at the draft extravaganza.

Stroz: Having lived in AK for a decade,..I’m a big fan of Joey Crabb (more for his hustle than the crab dance). Wish he could have cracked our line-up. Hope he can do well with the Hawks.

Biltong: I may have a chance to go to Durban, South Africa next Feb. Seems like I would we wise meet you at Twain’s a few times between now and then. The adult beverages will be on me.

World Be Free

June 27th, 2010
8:49 pm

Is anyone watching the cross talk about Boston possibly trading Marc Savard? Toronto is a possible destination, but the rumored player going back to Boston is Mikhail Grabovski. Is this possible or is it just Leaf fans grabbing at straws?

Acer

June 28th, 2010
3:56 am

Dudley salvaged a mediocre first day by drafting two good prospects on day two. Julian Melchiori is the best pick of the day for the Thrash. He has been likened to Niedermayer and Keith. Pettersson-Wentzel is another interesting pick.

I can live with the Telguin pick had Tom Kühnhackl not been available.

I’m not fan of the Burmistrov pick:

he was low first rounder in my rankings
not the BPA
not a bunch of upside (like Slater in 2002)-> I expect Weiss like numbers from him and nothing more
size
Russian factor & Burmistrov flip-flopping on going to KHL and not.

>>> Overall grade: C

OmniFan

June 28th, 2010
7:10 am

So let’s see now……we could have a Swedish D Sebastian Owuya to pair with a Swedish D Johnny Oduya…and we could have goaltender Fredrik Pettersson firing a clearing pass out to winger….Fredrik Pettersson??!! Be frightened, Dan Kamal, be very very frightened. :-)

World Be Free

June 28th, 2010
7:30 am

Acer – who would you have taken instead of Burmistrov?
I was all for taking Fowler, could not believe he was there at #8. I even jumped up and yelled Fowler after Skinner was taken by Carolina.

Sara

June 28th, 2010
7:34 am

WBF – the Bruins are trying to clear cap space and the word on the street (from the more reputable sources) is that Savy is the odd guy out (especially now that they have Seguin). He’s got a NTC right now but apparently is willing to waive it to go to either Ottawa or Toronto. Because this is a cap-clearing move, nothing expensive is going to go back to Boston. Interestingly, once Savy’s new contract kicks in July 1, his NTC goes to a limited NTC with 5 teams as options (2 of which were mentioned above). That might be a better time for Chiarelli to try and move him.

Badger Bob

June 28th, 2010
8:46 am

So what’s the over-under on the 5 roster RFAs to sign today? I’m counting Pavalec, MacArthur, Eager, Little and Bergfors. $8.5 or $9M perhaps? That should leave us with $3-$4M for that 20-goal UFA that Dudley wants.

World Be Free

June 28th, 2010
10:04 am

Thanks Sara, seems to all make sense. I think this is why the Broones wanted Hall to play wing. What amazes me is why Grabovski would be in the picture. He is useless as a player, especially since he is a center. I hope Savard gets traded to teams other than Ottawa or Tronna.

World Be Free

June 28th, 2010
10:06 am

Badger-I think you are in the ballpark, though I think MacArthur will be dealt.

Lee

June 28th, 2010
10:27 am

The draft is more than statistics. Though Fowler was expected to be drafted earlier than Burmistrov, Dudley probably has a good reason….

Badger Bob

June 28th, 2010
10:36 am

WBF – it is painful to have lost a 3rd and 4th rounder for Clarke’s mediocrity when Dudley was clearly wanting more mid-round picks, but I agree it would be better to trade him now than have to pay him the qualifying $1.4M. Spend that money to lock up Arty…

TableHockey

June 28th, 2010
10:39 am

Badger Bob – I don’t think there will be an issue signing Pavs or Little. Probably not an issue signing MacArthur either unless the offer was really bad. I WANT Bergfors to be signed badly but I have a gut feeling that he won’t until he sees what the new team looks like.

World Be Free

June 28th, 2010
11:17 am

Badger-agree on Arty, as bad as the MacArthur trade was, I thought Arty made up for it. This guy could put up some decent numbers if placed in the right situation.

Lee-watched Fowler hover in the top 5 for a long time. There must be something there for him to drop 8-10 spots in the top of the first round. Watching him play, it looks like Fowler is real good now with not much upside, so he fell to where he should have been all along. Sounds like what happened to Angelo Esposito, dropping from the top 10 to #20.

R. Stroz

June 28th, 2010
11:28 am

Hopefully, the Thrasher’s fax machines are working properly today.

glovesave29

June 28th, 2010
12:04 pm

WBF – suposedly those are the two cities Savvy OK’d as they are close to where his kids live.

World Be Free

June 28th, 2010
12:17 pm

You know Glovesave, I forgot about his personal situation. Makes sense from a family standpoint, but not a hockey standpoint!

TableHockey

June 28th, 2010
12:56 pm

The list of RFA that ATL made QO to have now been posted by Ben – http://www.bluelandblog2.com/2010/06/28/thrashers-qualify-seven-players/

Received QO:
Niclas Bergfors
Ben Eager
Bryan Little
Clarke MacArthur
Ondrej Pavelec
Peter Mannino
Anthony Stewart

Not so much:
Chad Denny
Rylan Kaip
Scott Lehman
Matt Siddall

Smoothie

June 28th, 2010
1:07 pm

Well, that will certainly put Stroz’s mind at ease. Now he can focus on more pressing matters like how he is going to smuggle 2 vuvuzelas into games next season.

Not surprising Duds would qualify Anthony Stewart considering he scouted and drafted him back in 2003. If you add him to the mix, then we could have yet another big, bruising speedster crashing bodies in the corners on our bottom lines. Not that it will happen but this bottom 6 could be quite imposing and “un-fun” to play against:

Eager – Slater – Machacek
Stewart – Cormier – Thorburn

Adam

June 28th, 2010
1:22 pm

When does the prospect camp start? Sure would be nice to have the coaching staff in place at least two weeks ahead of the camp.

TableHockey

June 28th, 2010
1:22 pm

Agreed Smoothie – from everything I’ve heard Dudley is really high on Cormier so I expect him to have a good chance at cracking our line up.

Badger Bob

June 28th, 2010
1:48 pm

No surprises there, but the release of Chad Denny (2nd Rd, 2005) helps cement the notariety of the 2005 Thrashers draft!