Blackhawks take 2-0 series lead – Thrashers sign pair of prospects

Hey there gang…I’m back in from a week off in sunny Florida…the east coast, far removed from any effects of the nasty oil mess in the Gulf of Mexico. One interesting highlight I’d like to share if I may…we spent the last couple of days on Cocoa Beach, just south of the Cape and got to experience a night launch of an Air Force rocket right over our heads. If you’ve ever experienced something like that at such close proximity before then you know just how thrilling and awesome that truly is.

And while we are on the subject of vacations, let me and the readers know where you are planning to head off to this summer. I already know that one of you is taking your family to Switzerland very soon. Nice!

 In case you missed it, there was this one piece of Thrasher-related news that happened over the Memorial Day weekend. Per C-Viv, the team announced that they have signed a couple of their recent draft picks…Carl Klingberg, the 34th overall selection last summer and Danick Paquette, who was chosen in 2008 with the 64th overall pick.

Both were signed to entry-level pro contracts.

Also, Ben Wright has posted up Rick Dudley’s radio interview on Toronto’s Fan590…interestingly enough, according to Ben, the hosts of the program indicated that Chicago Blackhawks coach John Torchetti will indeed be named the new head coach for the Thrashers…a belief that is shared by Adam Portzline of the Columbus Dispatch.

Speaking of the Blackhawks and Torchetti, since they now own a 2 games to none lead over the Philadelphia Flyers, Dudley and Co. could be able to chat him as soon as next week if Chicago is able to finish it out in games three and four. Those games will be played Wednesday and Friday in Philly.

However, just ask Marian Hossa just how quickly a 2-0 series lead can disappear in the SCF.

In dropping the two games in Chicago over the weekend, Philly has now extended their Cup Finals losing streak to seven games dating back to the 1987 series loss to the Edmonton Oilers. The Flyers won game six then by a score of 3-2 on May 28 to tie the series at 3-game apiece…but then lost the deciding game seven 3-1. They were then swept by the Detroit Red Wings in 1997 in the last Stanley Cup Finals appearance.

When the Blackhawks defeated Philadelphia 6-5 in Friday night’s game-one, it snapped a five-game SCF losing streak of their own dating back to the game-six loss in 1973 that ended that series with the Montreal Canadiens. Prior to this weekend, the last time the Blackhawks had won a SCF game was in game-five of that series, an 8-7 win over the Habs.

They were then swept by the Pittsburgh Penguins in 1992.

And finally…former Thrashers captain Scott Mellanby has been hired as an assistant head coach in St. Louis.

102 comments Add your comment

World Be Free

June 1st, 2010
9:53 am

So Torchetti is the lead horse-I have no issue with that selection.

Joe Friday

June 1st, 2010
10:02 am

I think it’s clear now that Torchetti is the guy. Good.

Hossa has been one of the best players for them and Coburn was the best guy on the ice for us last night. That’s kind of sad, as a Thrashers’ fan, but good for those guys. Coburn still has plenty of upside as well.

Phlyers have them right where we want them. Tomorrow night we bring the Orange Crush to bear and get back into the series.

World Be Free

June 1st, 2010
10:28 am

JF-do you think the Flyers will have the dollars and desire to resign Asham? He had some good numbers in Juniors, his skill has come out this year.

Matt

June 1st, 2010
11:06 am

Just absolutely KILLS me to see Hossa score last night and be so close to the Cup. *sigh*

Smoothie

June 1st, 2010
11:11 am

Does Asham score more than Eager? I really like Eager’s gritty, work-the-corners style and he has better hands than Thorburn and Boulton. How ’bout a rotation of Boults, Eager, Thorbs and Machacek for the 4th line with Spencer and Thorbs getting a look on the 3rd line from time to time?

GaVaHokie

June 1st, 2010
11:12 am

Torchetti should be pretty obvious now… I think we’d have a coach already if it wasn’t him. Dudley knows Torch well enough to know if Ramsay, Arniel, etc are better options.

kracker

June 1st, 2010
11:24 am

So everybody thinks Torchetti is the right guy? I was hoping there wouldn’t be a “best friends” association in the coach hiring. Maybe that’s not a factor at all and Torch really is the best available coach for this team at this time. Perhaps Torchetti is better qualified to be a head coach than weeks was to be a goalie coach.

Oh well, like I’ve said, I will trust Dudley until I have a few reasons to doubt his decisions.

kracker

June 1st, 2010
11:25 am

That should read ‘Weeks’ as in Steve Weeks.

Smoothie

June 1st, 2010
11:46 am

We know that Dudley has interviewed two guys because he said on the radio interview in Tronna that he has only spoken to two guys. We know one was Scott Arniel. The other? Was it a courtesy interview for Lever? Or did he chat up his old pal from Buffalo and Tampa, Craig Ramsay?

Too bad our beat reporter can’t find the time right now to call up Duds and find out who the “other guy” is. I guess they’ve got him working like crazy covering a Braves game twice a week. BTW, I thought the ajc already employed Dave O’Brien and Carroll Rogers for baseball?

Also, why did we only offer Max a one year deal? According to interweb rumors from Russian SovSport.ru, Max is going to test free agency.

R. Stroz

June 1st, 2010
12:09 pm

Afinogenov should have been offered a contract that ran concurrent with Antropov’s contract.

Oh well, based on prior history, Afinogenov will sign elsewhere and end up in the NHL All-Star game next season.

Joe Friday

June 1st, 2010
12:11 pm

Philly will keep Asham I’d think, is he due a hefty raise?

Smooth, I’m guessing Afinogenov isn’t a “Dudley type” and he doesn’t want him, no other reason to push him out the door with the one year take it or leave it offer. Unless Waddell’s still making the decisions, and then it makes sense as that’s Don’s MO (”go test free agency if you think you can do better” and then we get to watch other clubs snap them up come July 1st).

I would guess Dudley made his mind up long ago on Torchetti, and a GM wants his guy in the spot so they’re on the same page in terms of types of players brought in and system played.

J.B.

June 1st, 2010
12:13 pm

Smoothie, can you post a link to the russian article?

Telfo

June 1st, 2010
12:16 pm

it would be nice to have Afinogenov back, but losing him and Kubina wouldnt be the end of the world either.

ESPN reported yesterday that Dudley interviewed Arniel and Lever already. It was in a Pierre Lebrun blog… im too lazy to post a link right now

Smoothie

June 1st, 2010
12:21 pm

J.B. – sorry man, but it was just a twitter comment he posted. He breaks a lot of news about Russian contract signings and the like. Take it with a grain of salt. But still, no one in ATL is asking the right questions…as usual.

Telfo – agreed, but after the loss of Kovy and the potential for a sophomore swoon by Kane and continued struggles by Little, where is the goal scoring going to come from? I hope we are active in FA, but I’m wondering if Duds is more serious than a heart attack when it comes to going with youth. And thanks for the Lebrun nugget. Not happy to hear he hasn’t interview Rammer.

Joe F – I reckon you’re right about Duds’ view of Fin’s style of play. However, he would seem like a more than serviceable stop-gap measure for top 6 scoring for at least 2 years until Morin and others are ready and Kane and Bergs are 30 goal scorers…we hope.

Brendan

June 1st, 2010
12:28 pm

I don’t care if Hossa wins the Cup. I have no ill will towards him. We learned he had a shoulder injury that needed surgery, which is postponed from 2008 to 2010, in hopes of winning Cups with Pittsburgh and Detroit. He’s had the surgery, healed up, and now he’s on the verge of winning the Cup.

Yeah, yeah. Hossa had an obligation to do his best for his employer, named the Atlanta Thrashers. Following this line of thinking to the maximum length, he should have missed the 2008, out with an injured shoulder, spending the year on longterm IR. Right? Hossa at 60% was better than nothing. Hossa never really took any parting shots at Atlanta. The worst he said was, “If were really just about the money, I would have re-signed with Atlanta.” Which is just a thinly veiled declaration that Atlanta doesn’t know how to run its hockey club. Well, anyone keeps up with the Thrashers, at all, knows that.

I don’t hate Hossa. I don’t think him to be a scumbag. I don’t think him to headcase or a problem child. Or obsessively self-serving. I don’t think he conducts himself like a primadonna. He was traded here, and he put up his CAREER BEST season, 100-points, as a Thrasher. We all like to blame Hossa, as fans of the Thrashers. But really, if you can put aside your anger and frustration with the ownership and Waddell just long enough to be fair, I think the image of Marian Hossa changes. Doesn’t it?

World Be Free

June 1st, 2010
12:29 pm

Thanks Telfo, figured the 2nd had to be Lever. Not sure what Duds thinks of Max, but you know he lives part time in Buffalo and heard alotta bad stuff over the years about his overall game. Russian media has every Russian going to free agency and coming back to Russia. Not sure that’s for Max.

Smoothie-you know I have been up for having Ramsay here, but he’;s been available for a few weeks now with no indication that Dudley has asked permission from the Boston to talk Rammer. I think the ChowderHeads will let Dudley talk to Ramsay.

Asham made $640K this season, so I would say he’s up for a big raise, maybe double what he is currently making which puts him out of Philly’s budget. He’d be a good third liner in Colby’s place.

World Be Free

June 1st, 2010
12:41 pm

Brendan-Heatley is the scum bag. I said it before and I’ll say it again, I think Hossa is the best player to ever wear the Thrasher’s uniform. He is a 100-point man who can play both ends of the rink.

We lost Heatley, Hossa, Kovy, Savard and I am sure others over the fact that ATL is not yet a preferred destination for premier NHL players. This has to change.

Smoothie

June 1st, 2010
12:42 pm

WBF – hopefully Duds will pay Rammer a visit in Boston after the Draft Combine proceedings (i.e. later this week). Unless he already knows Rammer doesn’t want to be the big cheese behind the bench.

Let’s hope if Torch is the one that he has some pull with some of their available FA’ss who may want to stay with a system they know. Namely, Andrew Ladd and Ben Eager. I would love to see Ladd playing with Slater and hopefully Klingberg or Machacek.

BTW, I think Danick Paquette could end up being the biggest surprise of the last 3 draft classes. He just seems like a hockey player’s hockey player if you know what I mean. He along with Kulda. They just seem to get it and play solid hockey no matter what.

World Be Free

June 1st, 2010
12:54 pm

Smoothie-don’t know anything about Paquette, but maybe he will turn out to be the diamond in the rough other teams seem to be fortunate to find.

Your hunch on Ramsay may be correct; maybe he doesn’t have an interest in being a H/C anymore. He will be 60 next year, having survived cancer and played 14 seasons in Buffalo, including 10 straight seasons without missing a game. He may just want to stay a teacher.

Rawhide

June 1st, 2010
12:56 pm

Just updated today’s blog to note that former Thrashers captain Scott Mellanby has been hired as an assistant head coach for the St. Louis Blues.

Smoothie

June 1st, 2010
12:57 pm

I don’t think anyone thinks Hossa is a scum bag. Just a quitter when he had the chance to keep the Thrashers from plunging into the depths of futility. Had he stayed, then perhaps Kovy sings a different tune when it’s time for a new contract and there might have even been money left over to lure Nik Antropov here for even less than $4 M (say $3.5 M). You might have had a line-up that looked like this in ‘09-’10:

Kovy – Antropov – Filatov??

Kozlov – Little – Hossa

Slater – White – Machacek??

Even had Hossa stayed, we likely would have been in the bottom 8 anyway and may have had a shot at Filatov, Colin Wilson or Josh Bailey. Of course, I have no idea what the defense would look like with all the money tied up by Kovy, Hossa, Antro and probably Hainsey.

glovesave29

June 1st, 2010
1:43 pm

Lidstrom just re-upped for one more year with the Wings.

World Be Free

June 1st, 2010
1:48 pm

Glovesave-at the same $$$ amount or did he give the Wings a discount so they can sign some of the free agents?

kracker

June 1st, 2010
1:51 pm

Anyone hear or have thoughts on what Cormier may be facing? When does he go to trial, if he does? Plea bargain to get probation, assuming that’s done in the Canadian legal system?

I know the hit, an elbow wasn’t it, was pretty vicious but can you really separate it from all other hard hockey hits to the extent that it deserves criminal prosecution? Couldn’t the player that shoved Enstrom’s face into the dasher board just as easily been charged in that incident? Or many of the players where they throw a hit from behind and it results in lost blood, teeth and consciousness? Or any Pronger/Sutton type of elbow. Just asking….Is this more of a case of a headline seeking prosecutor than anything else?

Having said that, I will be quite happy if Cormier gets something like a fine and probation and learns to play not like a drunken playground bully. We sure need a tough player like him jacking up the other guys.

RS

June 1st, 2010
1:53 pm

The Columbus Dispatch is pushing Kevin Dineen to be the new head coach of the Blue Jackets, and they seem to feel that they are in some kind of race to hire him before another bottom feeder (i.e. Atlanta or Tampa Bay) snap him up.

GaVaHokie

June 1st, 2010
2:13 pm

Things are going to get pretty nasty if Cormier and Paquette make the team… not to mention Valabik still around.

R. Stroz

June 1st, 2010
2:25 pm

Things are going to get pretty nasty if Cormier and Paquette make the team… not to mention Valabik still around.

Put a stick in em and let um know you’re there.

Midfield

June 1st, 2010
2:25 pm

[twitter]Dan Carcillo is reported to be undergoing a crush course on How to Spot a Guy in the Right Uniform to Knock Off His Skates. He is expected to rejoin the team by Game 3.[twitter]

World Be Free

June 1st, 2010
2:32 pm

RS-I am certain Portzline / Porkloin would never admit the Jackets are bottom feeders.

glovesave29

June 1st, 2010
2:36 pm

WBF – Lidstrom made $7.45M last year, and is signed for $6.2M for this upcoming season.

Lee

June 1st, 2010
2:47 pm

I’m down with Torchetti being coach. I’ve heard good things from him.

ThrashDawg

June 1st, 2010
2:55 pm

The other ThrashDawgs and I are headed to Puerto Rico this summer, never been there and looking forward to something different. I am on record as saying I believe the next head coach should be somebody that has previous head coaching experience and a winner at the NHL level. I also think that if you keep jumping to potential cup winners eventually Hossa will find a winner. Every blind squirrel finds a nut eventually!

Smoothie

June 1st, 2010
3:05 pm

GS29 – did something change? Custance tweeted that the deal would be for $7 M per year. Did he jump the gun?

World Be Free

June 1st, 2010
3:08 pm

Thanks Glovesave-sounds right.

glovesave29

June 1st, 2010
3:26 pm

The Detroit Free Press is reporting $6.2M.

TD – enjoy PR. We stayed out in Dorado and had a good time. Be careful on the highways – especially where there is a grass median and no cement walls. People will bolt across them and exit the fwy on the entrance ramp to save time. Also be ready for people sitting on the median walls selling drinks and snacks. Ive seen people throw on the brakes in the fast lane to get something to drink. Not quite as strange as the items sold off of the highway medians in Sao Paulo, Brasil (electric razors and cell phone chargers) – but be weary none the less! Bacardi factory is a waste of time, but the largest satellite dish, the rainforest are really nice as is old town San Juan.

kracker

June 1st, 2010
3:34 pm

“Driving laws? We don’t need no stinkin driving laws.”

Sounds like umm….fun! But definitely not the place for a (not so) smart car.

ThrashDawg

June 1st, 2010
3:34 pm

Thanks for the info glovesave29. I am just looking forward to the clear blue waters, white sand beach and doing some snorkeling.

Elrod from Hall County

June 1st, 2010
3:57 pm

What is I and the whole fam-damnly gonna be doing for vacation this summer? Well since ya aksed, Thelma and I will be takin’ the eight younguns down to Miss-sippee next month to her antie Martha’s place. It’s just a few click the other side of Beluxi and shes gotta nice double wide down there with a window A/C unit. Just last fall she have real gravel dumped on the driveway.

The kids will enjoy the swimmin’ hole out back but this year we’ll be having to pack actual swimmin’ britches as some nar-do-well types got the local gov’ment to pass some “no skinny dippin’” deal down there.

It’ll be nice to get away from the five-n-dime store for a few days, thats for sure. And since the new baby got here Thelma was able to quit one of her jobs, so she’ll be able to relax some too.

Lee

June 1st, 2010
3:58 pm

glovesave29

June 1st, 2010
4:06 pm

hmmmm….decisions, decisions -
game puck or my name engraved on the cup…..?
game puck or my name engraved on the cup…..?
game puck or my name engraved on the cup…..?
The Hawks are gonna have the last laugh Chris!

glovesave29

June 1st, 2010
4:44 pm

Just watched a video about the Penguins “student rush” – game day tix are available for $20 with valid student ID until the game is sold out. All seats are available at that price starting 1 hour prior to game time. This game, those in line got free sweatshirts and pizza delivered by the players. This kind of community interaction has been suggested here many times. GT, GSU and the AUC are all within 2 miles of Philips – we should be doing this to get a loud, rowdy crowd into the games!

rob

June 1st, 2010
4:47 pm

I yelled loudly for Hawks first goal, only to be saddened it was Mary Ann. Just don’t like him. I know some of you think he walks water and all but I greatly dislike him. That being said I will take him on the cup over Dumb Carcillo, Cheap Pronger, and any other player associated with Filly Bum orange! LMAO Anyone else see the elbow Pronger was in the process of throwing when he caught the slight stick in the face? Poetic justice. And will Carcillo do something other than run his mouth? Seriously the guy is annoying with all his childlike pettiness, and I’m just watching. Can’t imagine how he doesn’t end up getting knocked out on the ice. Him and Avery should be locked in a room together far away from the game of hockey.

Yung JB from MTL

June 1st, 2010
5:36 pm

2 awesome signings for the Thrash, exactly what Dudley wanted. As for the Finals, Pronger wants to win and Chicago is officially gonna see what a real hockey-crazy crowd is when they arrive in Philly.

Go Flyers!

goose

June 1st, 2010
6:55 pm

World Be Free

June 1st, 2010
6:59 pm

Yung-any news from the Montreal media as to who the Habs are going to try to keep?
I keep hearing Price is going to be the goalie to go, maybe to NJ or Sj?

The article posted about Pronger calls him the most hated player in the league.. I have never hated Pronger, I always wanted him on my team from the time I first saw him as a skinny 19 year old kid. Go back 20 years and you will find defenseman alot dirtier that Pronger. He backs up whatever he says and does-always has.

Tony C.

June 1st, 2010
8:45 pm

since when does Pronger fight?

Cliff Fletcher

June 1st, 2010
10:46 pm

Watched “Broad Street Bullies”. No wonder the Flyers nearly ruined the NHL in the 70’s, giving the game a “black eye”. You want to talk about not fighting? How about Bobby Clarke, he never dropped the gloves just ran away and let everyone else fight his battles for him.

Brendan

June 2nd, 2010
12:38 am

WBF, I agree on Heatley. Of all the Thrashers who’ve come and gone, I think I view Heatley in the most unfavorable light. Hossa?? Hmmn. Well, I don’t especially like him. But I don’t hate him. And I don’t blame him for what happened here. I’ll never be able to prove this, but I suspect Hossa told Waddell, in April or May or June or July or August or September … or all of the above, that he wasn’t going to re-sign here. I also suspect Hossa asked, privately, to be traded during the offseason. I think the organization refused the request … on the basis that it needed to sell tickets, as much as it needed to sell the idea of “playoffs” to the masses.

If Hossa wins the Cup, good for him. If he doesn’t, well that’s too darned bad, then. He’s had three chances at it, at that point.

Here’s a boxscore to Game Two: http://www.nhl.com/ice/boxscore.htm?id=2009030412. Pronger played less minutes, at 27 and change. No mention of Ryan Parent, who played only 41 seconds in Game One.

Brendan

June 2nd, 2010
12:40 am

It’s good that we signed O’Dell. That’s a nice acquisition and retention, by the Thrashers. I don’t remember the details of the O’Dell trade.

World Be Free

June 2nd, 2010
6:09 am

Brendan, much of my dislike for Heatley comes from his actions away from the rink. He couldn’t handle being in Atlanta anymore, so he used this to force a trade. He was all smiles when he landed in Ottawa-good to be back in Canada. I think that string of events told the world what kind of person Dany Boy was. Those actions have translated to the rest of his hockey career to date, which has been marked by talented, yet selfish play. I woun’t want him for a teammate; in contrast, I would have no issue having Hossa on my team.

Enter another pompous idiot, Colby Armstrong, who has worked his way out of Atlanta believing he will be an in demand player with his 29 points last season. Idiots like Toronto will overpay him, then want to trade him in a year.

I believe O’Dell was traded for Christensen straight up.

GaVaHokie

June 2nd, 2010
8:26 am

WBF… yep, O’Dell for Christensen straight up.

World Be Free

June 2nd, 2010
8:43 am

GaVa-might not turn out to be a bad deal, Christensen had a good year in NY but he’s not a lock to come back to the Rangers. If he does, he’ll come back at a Jimmy Slater-contract.

rob-the only Flyer I really have an issue with is Carcillo. He’s always yelling from the protection of the bench. If you are so tough Carcillo then drop the gloves with someone other than Slater. Carcillo would never have played on the Flyer teams of the 70’s; they would have told him to shut up and fight.

kracker

June 2nd, 2010
8:46 am

twitter…kausatoday First winner of the new GM of the Year Award will be announced Wednesday at GM Meetings in Philadelphia. Don Maloney is the favorite.

Here’s hoping next year’s winner will be Rick Dudley.

Smoothie

June 2nd, 2010
9:19 am

Carcillo is a nitwit and a clown, but he laid a sweet hit on Jeff Carter now didn’t he?! LOL

Joe Friday

June 2nd, 2010
9:24 am

“First winner of the new GM of the Year Award”

Gotta be Waddell, eh?

“Watched “Broad Street Bullies”.”

I know, great documentary. What a classy group of players. Fans are real solid bunch as well. Orange Crush tonight, let’s go, Phlyers!

kracker

June 2nd, 2010
9:30 am

JF – In the actual tweet by kausatoday the words Don and Maloney are on two lines so for a split second I was thinking “No, it can’t be!”

World Be Free

June 2nd, 2010
9:52 am

Smoothie-Carcillo and Asham are 2 pretty ugly dudes as well.
JF-I didn’t see all of “Broad Street”, but from what I saw the documentary didn’t focus enough on the strength of the team’s defense, Bob Kelley, Parent, MacLeish and Leach.

Red Light

June 2nd, 2010
10:06 am

Carcillo is just a new version of Kenny “The Rat” Linseman, except “The Rat” provided more offense than the “The Punk”. You want a nominee for ugly? Try Sopel! That dude is scary but can’t hold a candle to the ugliest man ever to lace them up at the NHL level: Eddie Johnstone, formerly of the Rangers and Red Wings takes the honor.

World Be Free

June 2nd, 2010
10:35 am

Ugliest player ever?
How about “Bugsy” Watson from the Wings in the mid 70’s?
Also- Larry Playfair-I met Larry, super dude but he’s so ugly he could scare a bulldog out of a meat truck.

kracker

June 2nd, 2010
11:11 am

Smoothie

June 2nd, 2010
11:13 am

Yeah, I think our team could use a little bit of ugly. At least someone who is Jeff Odgers ugly…no offense to Jeff intended! Even Eric Boulton is a fairly good looking dude for a bruiser who pounds faces. I guess it’s good for Eric that he rarely gets beat up, but most of our guys have all of their teeth still! Only Marty seems to have any chiclets missing at this point. Our boys are too clean and polite!

glovesave29

June 2nd, 2010
11:19 am

I gotta vote for Ryan “dude, where’s my chin?” Smyth

World Be Free

June 2nd, 2010
12:04 pm

Yeah, Ryan Smith has that “north, south, east, west” nose too, cause it’s all over the place.

One thing that missed everyone this weekend was the announcement that the salary cap was actually going UP this season. You wonder what happened behind close doors to bring about the “about face” in the cap? The stronger teams who had more to lose in the form of players they would have to cut or trade for picks? Or was it the union? Fewer free agents on July 1 means more $$$ for less players. a higher cap means more roster players will be able to stay with their current teams. I don’t think we will ever get the full story.

Lee

June 2nd, 2010
1:01 pm

Hate Scotty Hartnell’s hair. Ugh….

Lee

June 2nd, 2010
1:02 pm

Ryan’s hair looks like two dog ears.

GaVaHokie

June 2nd, 2010
1:05 pm

On another topic… Tomas Kaberle is officially on the trading block per TSN… would anyone be willing to give up the NJ pick for him?

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=323363

kracker

June 2nd, 2010
1:14 pm

TWITTER – ajcthrashers Thrashers strength and conditioning coach extraordinaire Ray Bear leaving to train Special Forces for U.S. Army. Best of luck.

Guess Ray is ready for a change. Or does Duds want a new conditioning guy broght in?

kracker

June 2nd, 2010
1:16 pm

Hokie – Is Kubina coming back or not? I need to know that first.

glovesave29

June 2nd, 2010
1:17 pm

GaVa – funny you just posted that. Because I was reading the Toronto blogs about that very player. One blogger, who claims “inside information” says Columbus is offering their 1st round, 4th overall pick for Kaberle.

Others claim he’s worth a top 6 forward or a late first rounder.

One hopes he’s not sent to hockey “Siberia” like Atlanta (9 points better) or Florida (3 points better).

So we here in Atlanta are supposedly the ones who don’t understand hockey?

Just a little lunchtime humor at the expense of the second worst team in hockey.

GaVaHokie

June 2nd, 2010
1:34 pm

kracker… if Kubina was back, would you want Kaberle? Are you wanting to reunite them or, would you be looking at Kaberle as insurance if Kubina leaves?

GS29… no way is Kaberle worth a Top 5 pick with only one year on his contract… that’s ridiculous. I hope you gave that person a hard time.

I’d love to have Kabs and Kubs as our top pairing… but I’d be remise to give up even the NJ pick in case Jack Campbell or Jeff Skinner was still on the board.

GaVaHokie

June 2nd, 2010
1:36 pm

re: Ray Bear… I hope our Special Forces don’t pull a groin in action.

Kidding aside, good luck to him. Do us proud Ray!

Joe Friday

June 2nd, 2010
1:38 pm

No Rod “a mug only a mother could love” Brindamour?

World Be Free

June 2nd, 2010
1:39 pm

GaVa-Kaberle
Leafs want a top 10 pick or top 6 forward for Kaberle. He’s a UFA next summer.

Kaberle is not the cornerstone defenseman we are looking for, another puck mover and decent in his own zone.

GaVaHokie

June 2nd, 2010
1:45 pm

WBF… where do you see Top 10 pick? The TSN article says just first round.

kracker

June 2nd, 2010
2:12 pm

Hokie, they are different type of d-men so rather than Kaberle being a raplacement for Kubina, I was more thinking of just having a roster spot available. If Kubina resigns the D is probably set, along with Kulda taking Pops place. If Kubina leaves, then Dudley has more work to do and Kaberle could possibly be in the mix – not as a straight replacement d-man but part of multiple player moves.

Smoothie

June 2nd, 2010
2:18 pm

No!!! No and no! Three times NO!

Do not trade any 1st rounder for a 1-year rental…period. Unless it is a 25 y/o Wayne Gretzky. But then again, the asking price would be quite a bit higher.

Seriously, we have no need to mortgage a first round pick, even a late one, for Tomas Kaberle when we can go out and sign a guy like Seidenberg, Tallinder or Z. Michalek. We need defensively-minded D-men as Bogo, Enstrom, Hains and Johnny O give you plenty of puck moving.

World Be Free

June 2nd, 2010
2:22 pm

GaVa-members of the Toronto media believe the Leafs need a top 10 pick to get a player that might make the Leafs’ lineup in the coming season. I think the Leafs would prefer a top 6 forward and draft choice for Kaberle.

Toronto is desperate to improve next year or risk giving the Broones another very high draft choice. The story on the top 10 pick is why the were focusing on trading Kaberle to Columbus for #4, though even Toronto media admitted they would have to give more than Kaberle to get the #4 pick. Giving #24 would work for us, but it will not fly in Toronto.

Smoothie

June 2nd, 2010
2:34 pm

According to this article in Swedish: http://www.frolundaindians.com/sv/frolunda/nyheter/a-laget/jag-ska-spela-i-frolunda/

…Klingberg states that he will be playing for Frolunda next season.

Here is the Google Translation of the article:

“I’ll play in Frölunda”
Published: 01 June 2010, 12:49

-I will play in Frölunda the coming season. The news from # 17 Carl Klingberg are crystal clear. There will be games with Frölunda also the coming season. Media Information today puts Carl Klingberg in the NHL with the Atlanta Thrashers with a new three-year contract in hand.

“It is with the contract but I will be on loan to Frölunda the coming season, so I’ll play here,” says Klingberg. Same infomation from Kent Norberg, Frölunda’s General Manager. “Carl will play with us, “says Norberg

Klingberg, with roots in Lerum, things were soon to the Atlanta Thrashers in the draft last year, already in the second round (34th player overall).”

This was posted by Zim over on the Thrashers’ message board and no one has answered his question. Perhaps Viking can enlighten us by reading and translating so we can know whether Klingberg hopes to play in the NHL next season and wants SEL as a fall-back or if he has no intention of coming over until the following year when his Frolunda contract expires?

Zim posed this question: “So, is there an out clause if he doesn’t make the NHL or does Frolunda and Klingberg believe he’ll be back in Sweden next season either way?”

Viking, are you lurking out there?? Hope you are doing well our resident Swedish hockey fan and friend!

GaVaHokie

June 2nd, 2010
4:04 pm

WBF… boy, the Toronto Media really put some legs on that story. I listened to Burke’s entire radio interview and NEVER got that inclination. The Toronto media is jaded if they think Burke is getting a Top 10 pick… not for Kaberle and a prospect (which won’t be Kadri in that scenario).

I’d certainly say that Kaberle would probably trump our 24th pick on the market place… for instance for Patrick Sharp or Kris Versteeg. If you were Chicago, would you take Kaberle or our 24th pick?

So, they might get a Top 6 forward and maybe a 2nd round pick for Kaberle… most likely from a team that needs to shed salary.

GaVaHokie

June 2nd, 2010
4:07 pm

The Toronto media also thought Burke was going to trade Luke Schenn last year to move into the Top 5… Burke said, “Why would I trade a proven young defensemen for a questionable Top 5 pick?”

… that’s why Kadri won’t be apart of any trade to get into the Top 10.

Joe Friday

June 2nd, 2010
4:22 pm

“for instance for Patrick Sharp or Kris Versteeg. If you were Chicago, would you take Kaberle or our 24th pick?”

that’s a no brainer, of course Chicago would take the 24th pick. They need to move salary, not take more on . . .

Viking

June 2nd, 2010
5:17 pm

Smoothie, I am here. Busy working on my house.

I will see what I can find out about Klingberg online.

Smoothie

June 2nd, 2010
7:10 pm

Hope the work on your house is going well. Thanks for looking into the story. I hope Klingberg wants to come over as early as this year….assuming he is ready…and feels it is where his passion lies.

Then again, waiting one more year isn’t a terrible thing since the SEL has proved to be a good proving ground for grooming future NHLers.

World Be Free

June 2nd, 2010
7:46 pm

GaVa-when I need a good laugh, I always tune into the Toronto/Leaf media or fan blogs. Some of the trade scenarios on these outlets are total jokes. Stuff like “we’ll give you Jeff Finger for a #1 draft choice.” Finger is the latest in the long line of Leaf UFA busts who have not panned out. Why would a UFA go to Toronto, knowing the expectations of these fans who have been starved for a Cup for 43 years? Rumored UFAs to Toronto this spring include Armstrong, Raffi Torres and Kovalchuk. Talk about reaching for the instant gratification generation.

Kaberle is not a premier D – man on a Cup contending team. Great skater and puck mover, but he’s not a shut down guy in his own end. Kaberle is alot like Campbell, who is barely the 5th best d-man on the Hawks.

I am not sure of the real value of our #24 pick. This is not a deep draft, probably one of the weakest in a couple years. Number 24 may actually be close to the 34th or 35th player taken in last year’s draft, maybe lower. So let’s not overvalue our own pick, cause it may not yield a guy that very close to being in the NHL.

HookyBob

June 2nd, 2010
10:13 pm

Between periods I saw the NHL’s “Speechless Stanley Cup” ad and got a bit teary-eyed. Earlier, I got all (well very) watery-eyed when Kate Smith’s recording of God Bless America was broadcast. Then I got all wet eyed thinking “Is life good or what?” I must say I feel a bit like I have won the lottery being “born in the USA” (thanks Bruce) and growing up in hockey country (those 40 below mornings fade in my memory).

I must say I’m a bit biased towards Chicago as both Teows and Byfuglin grew up with-in 60 miles of my old stomping grounds. Of course Asham was with-in 70 miles and Riley Cote (where is he anyway) with-in 60. Teows also wore the NCAA Indian Head I follow (UND,… but will soon change for political correctness). Then,…there’s also something about Toronto having the longest drought that I sort of relish.

But you know,… if the Flyers win,…I’m OK with that too,..this team isn’t the goons stamped in my memory (how can a hockey afficienado cheer for goon hockey). Is this something that Laviolette should be credited for? They are a skilled team and their play, absent Carcillo (and he is rather skilled, but plays the goon), reflects it. Did you see that pass of Hartnell’s on the 1st goal?

Come to think of it “I don’t have a dog in this fight.” I like the game of both teams.

Once more, for the record, I hope this series determined by a bad goal, or a “foot in the crease.” May the best team win (or the team playing the best).

So, while I am still focusing on the games, has anyone noticed that both Montreal and Edmonton have let (ie fired) several of their scouting staff? In Dudley I trust (Thanks WBF).

Also, while the Thrashers are looking for investors,…what do you bloggers think of them offering shares in the business? I’d buy in if I had a voice (vote) in mgmt.

Brendan

June 2nd, 2010
11:08 pm

HookyBob, I wouldn’t want ANY part of this management (Atlanta Spirit, LLC). They’ve made countless missteps along the way. And I don’t mean little ones, that had more to do with “chance” and “luck.” Keeping Billy Knight, for HOWWWWW LONNNNG? Retaining Waddell, past 2006? Not firing him after the 2007 playoff sweep??? It’s not an accident. It’s not. They believe in a “philosophy of longevity.” In this core set of beliefs, everyone improves in their various position, with the FEAR of being fired removed from the equasion.

See, this is normally the sort of stupidity that is reserved for the ivory towers of academia. Where notions like giving everyone nuclear arms ensures PEACE. And so forth. What would you do, HookyBob, sitting there are a share holder, when you hear the plan is to let Waddell pick the next GM, rather than interview Steve Yzerman for the job, promising him the moon and stars, if he accepts the position? See what I mean? You’re left there, helplessly, to watch it all transpire. It’s just not worth it. “You can’t fix stupid,” my boss once told me, as we interviewed candidates for vacancies in the office.

Flyers score!!! Or do they?? No signal.

Brendan

June 2nd, 2010
11:13 pm

No goal. Wow. And it didn’t go in, initially. It went in, eventually, but I suspect there was a whistle, first. If Chicago wins this game … hide the refs!!

Flyers win!!!! Giroux, I think!!!

Brendan

June 2nd, 2010
11:40 pm

If you’re a Blackhawks fan, you have to ask yourself, “Did we just blow a chance to lock up this series?” At 3-0, in the series, it’s pretty much over. Or, do you tell yourself, “Hey, Game Four is another ‘pressure-free’ chance to take that stranglehold on this series. If we win that one, it’s coming HOME to clinch?”

If you’re a Flyer fan, you exhale. But you know … you still have to win Game Four, too. Then, Game Five is your ‘pressure-free’ chance to steal that game, and the series. Every game is imporant. I shouldn’t say, ‘pressure free.’ It’s just … less pressure. If Chicago loses Game Four, it’s coming home tied, 2-2. That’s not a disaster situation.

World Be Free

June 2nd, 2010
11:45 pm

Hooky-One of the first things I said when Dudley was hired is that he needs a total review of the scouting staff. Not sure how that has gone so far, but I like what other teams have done in holding their scouts accountable. The guys in the field need to be held accountable like coaches and players.

I like the speechless adds too. Add to this all the commercials the league has fielded this post season. Somebody is doing their homework, on a night in which the National Pastime finds the wisdom to rob a young pitcher of a perfect game. Unbelieveable

We keep talking about taking advantage of teams dumping salary and Philly gives us the best current example-Ville Leino. Leino has become a key contributor for the Flyers. Great pickup, a “dump player” who Detroit had to move and Philly was there to take him.

HookyBob

June 2nd, 2010
11:45 pm

Brendan,..Agree you “can’t fix stupid”. But if stakeholders have a vote,…is that stupid? That is an unfair question as who tallies the stakeholder vote and weight? ( I’m thinking I get your point Brendan.)

BTW: Brendan,..have you ever been to Iona?

Cliff Fletcher

June 3rd, 2010
8:07 am

Nothing will change unless you become a majority owner. Don’t waste your money trying to buy into this group and affect change with 5% of the pie.

Hockey expert

June 3rd, 2010
8:10 am

Red Light

June 3rd, 2010
8:31 am

Leino has been exceptional for the Flyers. 6 goals and 9 assists in 16 games is outstanding production, but once again Briere and Hartnell were in the thick of it last night. I think the turning point was Leino’s goal just 20 seconds after Kane put the Hawks ahead because it never allowed the Hawks to feel comfortable. While I dislike Philly for many reasons, it’s easy to pull for a team that refuses to crumble. They could have thrown in the towel may times during the playoffs and haven’t. That’s a testament to their leadership and Laviolette’s coaching. Holding the Hawks to four third-period shots for the 2nd game in a row is unreal.

To World Be Free’s point about scouting, that’s how Leino was purged from Detroit.

“The Flyers and Finnish scout Ilkka Sinisalo were keeping an eye on Leino’s progress and when general manager Paul Holmgren noticed Leino was a healthy scratch for six straight games in late January he made Detroit an offer.”

Nicely done!

GaVaHokie

June 3rd, 2010
8:59 am

Joe Friday… okay, a different example. If San Jose was offering up Ryan Clowe. Would they take Kaberle or our 24th pick in return?

Joe Friday

June 3rd, 2010
9:05 am

“alot like Campbell, who is barely the 5th best d-man on the Hawks.”

You keep saying this, and you couldn’t be more wrong. Chicago hit the wall when Campbell was mugged by Ovechkin and was out injured. The impetus to their improved play in the playoff run was precisely the game that Campbell came back. He’s one of the keys to their offense and he’s played pretty dang well on defense too, his speed has stopped more than one Phlyer breakaway this series.

“Flyers in 7″

From your keyboard to the hockey gods ears. Let’s go, Orange Crush!

Joe Friday

June 3rd, 2010
9:06 am

“If San Jose was offering up Ryan Clowe. Would they take Kaberle or our 24th pick in return?”

why make it an either/or? You need to realize that Kaberle has a large contract and is only signed for one more year. You’re comparing apples and hand grenades.

Smoothie

June 3rd, 2010
9:44 am

Hawks in 5.

There is quite a bit of dissonance as to the strength of this year’s draft. Perhaps strength isn’t the right word as much as depth of above average prospects with very similar potentials for making the NHL. After the Top 5 or so, there seems to be a lot of variance in terms of how players are ranked. Does that mean there is great depth or great mediocrity? If the latter, then we should look to trade the 24th pick. But no way in hell should we pass on a chance to get Johansen, Nino or Emerson Etem at # 8.

World Be Free

June 3rd, 2010
9:53 am

Is Chicago better with Campbell-yes! But Campbell is not a cornerstone defenseman on the Black Hawks. This is my point when comparing Kaberle to Campbell, in the sense they are offensive minded players that are responsible in their own ends. So if neither is the full package, how much is a team going to give up to get them? Kaberle will make $4.25M in the coming season; as you noted, he has one more year on his current deal. Another factor for a team looking to trade for him is the one year factor before he becomes a UFA.

Joe, as usual, you seem to contest everyone else’s comments without really making an original comment of your own, other than “go Flyers”. Well done on your part.

Smoothie

June 3rd, 2010
10:15 am

WBF – hope we don’t bail out Burkie again and trade for Kaberle and one year of mercenary contribution! Let’s hope Duds is a bit more visionary than you know who! ;-)

Cue the Sage of Redundancy.

Rawhide

June 3rd, 2010
10:25 am

No doubt you all saw Philly win game three…thanks in part to video replay being used the way it should be. But did anyone see how a Detroit Tigers pitcher was robbed of a perfect game bid because MLB has no such replay ability?

Oh, and by the way…100th!!

Old Time Hockey

June 3rd, 2010
11:02 am

Do not underestimate the importance of a quality strength and conditioning coach. I think what Baer is doing is commendable, but have not been impressed with this teams conditioning for years. Nutrition is soooo important these days and training techniques and science have made incredible advances. Let’s hope they hire someone who is current and open minded. You can’t go wrong being in great condition.

Dwayne

June 3rd, 2010
11:18 am

We need Barry Bonds’ trainer