Will anyone ever score on Philly-Leighton again?

Well, I’m sure that eventually somebody sometime is going to slip a puck past Flyers goalie Michael Leighton. Surely it has to happen, don’t-cha think…if for no other reason than the odds simply dictate it must happen. But just when it might happen…well, that’s anyone’s guess.

Chris Pronger and Michael Leighton check each others temperature...because they and the Flyers' defense have been on fire of late (AP photo)

Chris Pronger and Michael Leighton check each others temperature...because they and the Flyers' have been on fire of late (AP photo)

Leighton and the Flyers have jumped out to a two games to none lead on the Montreal Canadiens by following up their 6-0 whipping of the Habs with another shutout…this time 3-0. Montreal outshot Philly 30-23 in Tuesday night’s game-two, but just like Sunday Leighton sprung no leaks and held tight. He has now stopped all 58 Canadiens shots taken in the series.

“We’re in a great situation”, Leighton said of his team being only two wins away from their first Stanley Cup Finals since 1997. “I’m not trying to think so much”.

The shutout means a lot to me but the win means a lot more”.

Going back to Friday night’s game-seven, come-from-behind win in Boston, the Flyers keeper has gone over eight periods without being scored upon…a total of 165 minutes and 50 seconds since Milan Lucic’s unassisted goal put the Bruins up 3-0. It is the second-longest scoreless streak for any Flyers goalie in the playoffs since 2000 when Philly went 184:45 between having a puck get past a keeper.

The over/under on when the Flyers will be scored on again is 13:30 of the second period of game 3 with Montreal

  • I'll take the"under"! (70%, 38 Votes)
  • I'll take the "over"! (30%, 16 Votes)

Total Voters: 54

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The goalie that was in net for them at that time…Brian Boucher.

Since entering game five of the Bruins series, he has played in 4 games plus 24:35 and has stopped 124 of the 128 shots taken against him for a .969 SV% and a goals against average of OH-89…BINGO!.

Given that, I’m going to set the over/under for the next time someone will score against Philadelphia at…13:30 of the second period of Thursday’s game-three in Montreal. If you think the Habs will finally break through before that time, choose the “under”. If you think it’ll take longer…then the “over” is your vote.

Not to be overlooked is the work on the other end of the ice for Philly. They have scored 13 consecutive goals since the first period of that game-seven in Beantown Friday night. But Danny Briere says they are just getting warmed up.

“We all feel like we haven’t played our best games yet,” said Briere who scored his ninth goal of the playoffs Tuesday night. “We still have more in the tank.”

Meanwhile, Back At The Ranch…

While we sit by and watch Michael Leighton and the Flyers defense deny and turn away their opponents in much the same fashion and frequency Debbie Hesslefielder did me in the 11th grade…let me redirect you focus back towards Thrasherville for a moment, if I may.

Oh, there’s no real news to report here… but just for grins and giggles I’ve compiled the Thrashers defensive stats over their first 10 years of play in the league and now submit them for your review.

But I warn you… if you have just eaten or are otherwise squeamish in general, you may wish to skip over it and go straight to the comments section of this forum. It isn’t pretty…

1999-’00: 3.82 GA/G, (28th)* – 31.0 SA/G, (27th)* – 80.3% PK, (24th)*.

2000-’01: 3.52 GA/G, (29th) – 32.4 SA/G, (30th) – 77.9% PK, (30th).

2001-’02: 3.51 GA/G, (30th) – 35.5 SA/G, (30th) – 81.8% PK, (25th).

2002-’03: 3.46 GA/G, (30th) – 31.6 SA/G, (27th) – 81.6% PK, (25th).

2003-’04: 2.96 GA/G, (25th) – 29.4 SA/G, (23rd) – 85.1% PK, (T-8th).

2005-’06: 3.26 GA/G, (24th) – 30.3 SA/G, (18th) – 72.2% PK, (T-25th).

2006-’07: 2.94 GA/G, (15th) – 31.5 SA/G, (25th) – 79.8% PK, (26th).

2007-‘08: 3.24 GA/G, (T-30th) – 33.9 SA/G, (30th) – 78.8% PK, (27th).

2008-’09: 3.40 GA/G, (29th) – 32.7 SA/G, (27th) -76.0% PK, (29th).

2009-’10: 3.05 GA/G, (25th) – 33.1 SA/G, (T-27th) -82.2% PK, (16th).

*Only 28 teams in NHL in the 1999-’00 season.

Now, the words “defensive power house” and “Atlanta Thrashers” have rarely seldom not often hardly…OK, OK…have NEVER been used in the same sentence. In fact, I have often opined that the way the Thrashers play defense causes goalies to take more rubber to the face than a possum on GA Hwy. 92.

And these numbers just back that up…but let’s look even closer still.

There has only been two…count them, one-two… occasions in the first ten seasons of play that the Thrashers have finished in the upper half of any of those statistical categories. 2003-’04 when their 85.1% penalty killing was tied for 8th in the NHL and in 2006-’07…a.k.a., the playoff season…their 2.94GA/G was good enough for 15th in the league. Coming close was last year’s 82/2% PK, which was 16th best.

Conversely…of the 30 possible categories, 24 times they have finished in the bottom 6.

In just the past three seasons alone, they have ended the year 30th, 29th & 25th in GA/G…30th, 27th & tied for 27th in SA/G… and 27th, 29th & 16th on the penalty kill.

Either way you look at it, folks, historically the Thrashers defense has been un-good. In fact, the defensive play has been downright…ahem…offensive at times.

119 comments Add your comment

Smoothie

May 20th, 2010
2:46 pm

Downie is too much of a hot-head right now, but they are obviously trying to get in the kitchen of the Russian players using Ott and Downie together with Kane who already has a rep for being a strong defensive forward. But Kane & Pevs should be together. Why not Pevs, Kane and Tavares? Why waste that line with Laich? He hasn’t played very well this tourney in my opinion. Funny seeing Pevs defend Kovy on the point when Russia is on the PP. Russia scores on a broken play at the blueline…some guy named Afinogenov. Stamkos’ line gives up yet another ES goal.

GaVaHokie

May 20th, 2010
2:49 pm

Red Light… yeah, I know… isn’t there a 3rd team also?

World Be Free

May 20th, 2010
2:50 pm

Glovesave-3000 pucks! We used to buy pucks in buckets from the “rink rats”-good for practice. I really appreciate your insight on goaltending. Understanding of the trade can only come from someone who has been between the pipes and had a rubber bullet shot at their head. The rest of us are amateurs. Baseball purists think catchers have it tough; we know that’s not the case.

Smoothie – you are totally right on with your assessment of the coaching candidates. Arniel is a close second to Ramsay. I just think Rammer would be ideal-class act as a player and coach, been in the league for almost 40 years.

Finally, I like Viv’s piece on how Dudley got to this point. It is abbreviated, there’s more to Dud’s story. I think his history separates him from Waddell in many ways, which is why I believe he will be his own man, sink or swim on his own merits.

DWTOO

May 20th, 2010
2:55 pm

GS29 – when formulating opinions and venturing projections I’ll look at the positions of folks on the blog I respect and look at the links. Afterwhich I digest all the BS and make a systematic wild a$$ guess.

Spud Webb

May 20th, 2010
3:10 pm

Dude, you sell the pucks or what Glovesave??
WBF, yes, catchers also have it bad!! Less equipment. “tools of ignorance”!!!!! Personally, no thanks on either account!

glovesave29

May 20th, 2010
3:25 pm

Spud – I had everything from the pucks the NHL used in 1917 (with vulcanized NHL crest and sharp edges that caught every rut on the ice – thus the Art Ross puck was born with rolled edges) to the Fox Trazz puck with diodes inserted into it. I had every professional league, as well as colleges, olympic and world championships, minors and major juniors. Logo change…bought it. Design change…ditto. I got the old rare ones at antique shops, on line and of course, eBay. Got the new ones through the leagues. In the beginning, gamers were $3 each (you’d get the whole set from the league) and $15 to ship all of them. Then the leagues got greedy (!) – changed the design every year, then started charging us in the hobby $10 each, plus you could only get them through the individual teams – so I had to pay $5 freight for each one. I got frustrated, sold off all of them to one guy for just a bit under $20K (yes you read right) – kept the autographed, Atlanta Flames and Knights and olympic ones and bought a 150 gallon fish tank for my new hobby. My collection was in the top ten, but there are guys out there with 10,000 plus. If the logo had a “TM” and another has none – they’ll collect that. My wife always joked that if the house ever caught fire, it’s burn longer than the famous Springfield Tire Fire on the Simpsons.

World Be Free

May 20th, 2010
3:31 pm

Spud-goalies have it harder, but I have no idea how cartchers can squat for so long, then get up and hit and run for 150+ games. Do that for a could years and your knees and back will be toast!

R. Stroz

May 20th, 2010
3:43 pm

Do that for a could years and your knees and back will be toast!

I liked Benito Santiago’s idea of just sitting down.

Brendan

May 20th, 2010
4:01 pm

Red Light & Hokie, thanks for the Leighton salary clarification. I thought that was wayyy too low. I’m a bit to lazy to look it up right now, but can anyone tell me the UFA/RFA/under contract status of Leighton, Boucher, and Ray Emery?

Red Light

May 20th, 2010
4:01 pm

glovesave29: That’s a very interesting question. If you like Lindy Ruff, then you should like Arniel right? If you like Quenneville, Keenan, Andy Murray, Ludzik and Dudley then you should like Torchetti right?

As we know, coaches take a lot from all of their former mentors, and based upon the list above could you really advocate Arniel or is he just another major juniors’ flavor of the month like Pete DeBoer? The only thing Arniel won in pro hockey is an IHL championship as a player in Utah. Torchetti’s only claim to winning would be this year’s Blackhawks.

As I pointed out, Ramsay has won the Cup as a Tampa Bay assistant but I think his cancer history and age plays against him at this point in his career. He has NHL head coaching experience too and I’d love to see him get another shot. But, if I’m making the decision as to whom to hire and I can’t have Ramsay, then I look no further than someone like current Stars assistant Charlie Huddy, a proven winner as a player.

Huddy is 51, a five-time Cup champion and a runner-up in 1993 with LA, a head coach in the ECHL, an NHL assistant for the past 11 seasons, and he played or coached defense under Mike Keenan, Roger Neilson, Bob Berry, John Tortorella, Ted Nolan, John Muckler, Ted Green, Glen Sather, Ron Low, Craig McTavish and Marc Crawford. The other guys who should be on top of the list are Flyers assistant Joe Mullen (two Cups, a runner-up, and an AHL head coach), Habs’ assistant Kirk Muller (two Cups, no head coaching experience), and Devils’ assistants Tommy Albelin (two Cups, no head coaching experience) and Scott Stevens (three Cups, no head coaching experience).

Red Light

May 20th, 2010
4:03 pm

Brendan: Boucher is under contract and the others are UFAs

glovesave29

May 20th, 2010
4:10 pm

Thanks RL – based on the style of a player he was, I gotta think i’d like Kirk Muller. But then again, I respected the way our first coach played the game too!

Not to argue your points, as I think they are certainly valid – but look at our own former GM DW…he sure went the opposite route of his former employer the Wings!

Red Light

May 20th, 2010
5:09 pm

GS29: He was with his former employer for less than one year! His hiring was announced August 08, 1997, and his contract was worth a little more than $1 million total for four years. Waddell’s duties “include working on contracts and helping with scouting. He also will be the GM of the Red Wings’ top affiliate, Adirondack (N.Y.) of the American Hockey League.”

The Thrashers named him the organization’s first general manager June 23, 1998.

R. Stroz

May 20th, 2010
9:01 pm

I just took the under vote. Bet I’m right.

Sage of Bluesland

May 20th, 2010
9:28 pm

June 23, 1998: A date which will live in blustering infamy.

It’s been the gift (of incompetence) which just keeps on giving…

Brendan

May 20th, 2010
10:33 pm

Red Light, thank you. Should we pursue Leighton??? How much would he cost, out on the open market? Even with this impressive playoff performance?

Brendan

May 20th, 2010
10:37 pm

R.Stroz: You powers of prediction never cease to amaze me.

World Be Free

May 20th, 2010
10:40 pm

Why note Berube for head coach? If for one reason, what player is going to loaf and not give 100% during a shift, then have the guts to come back to the bench with Berube waiting? Just a thought.

Time for someone to beat the crap out of Lapierre. Don Cherry is right-time to take out the instigator rule so teams can deal with a little smiling wimp like Lapierre; take off the visor and fight Max.

What happened to Philadelphia Flyer toughness? The smaller Habs are out hitting the Flyers.

On a totally unrelated note, I want to thank Fulton County for removing music from the county schools. Never fear-Joe Stalin did the same thing. Fulton Co. is in good company.

Rawhide

May 20th, 2010
10:59 pm

New blog time, kids…the Thrashers are apparently chatting contract extension with Kubina and Afinogenov.

Armstrong…not so much.