Round two roundup – Habs Halak still stopping while Savard & Bruins take a bite out of Philly

Last night Chicago dodged a bullet. Having been throttled 5-1 in game one by the Canucks, they found themselves trailing 2-0 after the first five minutes of game-two. Heading into Vancouver down two games to none would have been extremely un-good for the Blackhawks.

Kris Versteeg's third period goal gave the Blackhawks a 3-2 lead with 90 seconds remaining (AP Photo/Nam Y. Huh)

Kris Versteeg's third period goal gave the Blackhawks a 3-2 lead with 90 seconds remaining (AP Photo/Nam Y. Huh)

Brent Seabrook’s goal at the 7:40 mark of the first period closed the gap and the score remained 2-1 going into the third. But that’s where Chicago took over as Patrick Sharp scored a short-handed goal and Kris Versteeg gave the Hawks the lead with just 90 seconds remaining. Patrick Kane then added an empty netter 42 seconds later, his 6th goal of the post-season.

The Hawks outshot the Canucks 13-6 in the final 20 minutes despite taking the only two penalties in that final frame.

Seabrook’s goal was his first of the post-season and he also added two assists Monday night, finishing the game a +4 for Chicago.

Earlier in the evening Boston once again slipped by Philadelphia 3-2 thanks to Milan Lucic’s blast with just 2:57 remaining in the third period. With the win they head down to Philly needing just two wins in the next five games to advance to the Conference Finals for the first time since, I believe, they were swept by the Penguins in 1992.

During a second-period scrap, Philadelphia’s Daniel Carcillo complained that Marc Savard had chomped on his finger. 

“Last time I have been bit was in grade school. It is not a good feeling. It is pretty cowardly,” Carcillo said after the game. “Guys don’t bite. Men don’t bite.”

Savard…ahem…turned and pointed his finger back at the Flyer.

“He pummeled on my face,” Savy slyly said. “He pulled on my teeth, so I guess that’s biting when a guy tries and pull your front teeth out.”

Tuukka Rask is now 6-2 in the playoffs with a 2.32 GAA and .922 SV% while Boston’s 92.9 % effective penalty kill leads all teams in the post-season so far.

Tonight, the Montreal Canadiens will look to take advantage of their split in games one and two played in Pittsburgh. After suffering an off night in Friday night’s game one…allowing four power play goals on four Penguin’s opportunities…they held Pittsburgh’s offense at bay, giving up one goal and denying them on all three power play chances.

The Habs have killed off 35 of the 40 man-advantages they have faced so far in the nine games they have played in the playoffs…35 of the 36 not counting game-one against the Pens. Special teams play could play a major role in this series given Pittsburgh’s 31.4% effective power play leads all eight teams remaining in the playoffs. If the Habs PK unit continues to shine, that can only help them in their second consecutive upset bid this spring, (DUH5).

Michael Cammalleri’s 8 goals tie him with Vancouver’s Mikael Samuelsson for second most during the playoffs to date and his 13 overall points are third. Sidney Crosby, of course, leads all scorers with 16 points, (5 goals 11 assists).

Also, there is Jaroslav Halak… whose .931 SV% is tops of all keepers not-yet eliminated from post-season play. Sunday he stopped 38 of 39 Penguins shots faced in their 3-1 game-two win.

Later on in Motown, the Sharks will look to continue feeding on octopi. The Big Red Borg face what can really only be classified as a “must win” situation after dropping both games played in San Jose. The Sharks Joe Pavelski is making his case for the Conn Smythe Trophy with a playoff-high 9 goals and 14-point performance in 8 games played. He’s a +7 as well.

Evgeni Nabokov continues his good work this spring. He is now 6-2 with a .916 SV% and playoff-low 2.02 GAA…this even though the Red Wings have netted six goals on 54 shots in their two losses.

Meanwhile…Down On The Farm

The Chicago Wolves find themselves tied with the Texas Stars at one game apiece with the Texas Stars in their AHL Western Conference playoffs series. The Wolves outlasted Texas to win game-two 4-3 in double overtime Sunday…the winning goal being scored by Anthony Stewart, his second of the game and 6th of the playoffs.

Patrice Cormier thought he had scored his first goal as a member of the Wolves during regulation, but the refs waived it off citing he’d lost sight of the puck. Later during the first overtime, a Chicago goal was disallowed as it was ruled kicked into the net.

Along with Stewart’s two goals, Jason Krog and Spencer Machacek also scored for the Wolves while Peter Mannino stopped 35 of the 38 shots he faced for the win. Mannino allowed 4 goals on 28 shots while Krog, Stewart and Joey Crabb scored for Chicago.

Texas won game-one 4-3 in overtime last Friday night on a power play goal by Garrett Stafford while Crabb sat in the box for high sticking.

The series now moves to Texas for the next three games starting with tonight’s game-three.

133 comments Add your comment

Dandylions

May 4th, 2010
12:13 pm

M. Savard pulled a M. Tyson last night – loser.

Savannah Blueland Fan

May 4th, 2010
12:26 pm

I’m sure it wasn’t the first time Carcillo complained of someone using their teeth….

Sorry, that was mean but I have to defend my player!

World Be Free

May 4th, 2010
12:28 pm

I remember Carcillo chickening out against Boulton this season, rather fihght Slater instead. I think that sez enough about Carcillo.

Pittsburgh Pirate Fan

May 4th, 2010
12:31 pm

Too bad local TV won’t broadcast Wolves’ games on TV. That makes too much sense since we must have a constant overdose of tattooed, gangster basketball.

Nate

May 4th, 2010
12:47 pm

I couldn’t help but think “Patrick Sharp sure would look nice in a Thrashers uni next season” when he scored that shorty last night…

Thrashers27

May 4th, 2010
12:49 pm

Carcillo’s a turd. I’d love to drop the gloves with him.

World Be Free

May 4th, 2010
1:07 pm

Versus showed Carcillo yelling F – U to the Brunes bench last night. it’s the same thing Carcillo did to Boulton in the penalty box before he chickened out to Bolts. Nothing worse that a cry-baby coward.

Matt

May 4th, 2010
1:55 pm

*sarcasm alert!!* “Boy, I’m sure glad the Thrashers didn’t re-sign Savard, what a waste that would have been!!” *end sarcasm alert*
(Yes, I realize he didn’t want to sign here, but it’s just another example of the failure of the front office over the years.)

Gary Wright

May 4th, 2010
2:28 pm

Nate: As long as you and Smoothie keep filling out your dream team roster for next year’s Thrashers, why not toss in the Bobby Ryan scenario too?

World Be Free

May 4th, 2010
2:31 pm

G-W //I think everyione is just tossing around names that might work here. Whether they can be had is another matter, but it is nice to discuss the odd player that may be an upgrade over our current roster, especially when you consider that some teams will need to dump talent becuase of their respective cap situations.

it could happen-though it is not likely.

kracker

May 4th, 2010
2:33 pm

It’s very good to see Cormier playing again after his suspension. If he plays capably in the AHL playoffs, Dudley will perhaps conclude that he can project Patrice as a roster player next season. Or if needs a year in Chicago, it’s even more important to know that before this summer’s roster adjustments.

TableHockey

May 4th, 2010
2:41 pm

“Guys don’t bite. Men don’t bite.” – Carcillo better hope Hartnell doesn’t hear he made that statement since he supposedly did the same thing late last year: http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Hartnell-s-end-of-game-meal-allegedly-included-K?urn=nhl,194967

On a Thrashers note – Vinny Sapanari was kicked off of the Boston University hockey team. http://nhl.fanhouse.com/2010/05/04/boston-university-kicks-thrashers-prospect-saponari-off-team/

Smoothie

May 4th, 2010
2:50 pm

Gary Wright (and anyone else for that matter): I’d rather be accused of wishful thinking rather than not thinking at all…and simply repeating myself ad nauseam, which seems to happen a lot around here. :wink:

Woody Allen

May 4th, 2010
3:02 pm

I wanted someone younger than Mia Farrow and ended up with my “stepdaughter!”

That’s the kind of wishful thinking we need more of around here!

Cliff Fletcher

May 4th, 2010
3:09 pm

Smoothie

you means guys like Sage?

MB

May 4th, 2010
3:19 pm

As much as I can’t stand them, I’ve been very impressed with the Flyers (and Peter Laviolette) in the post-season. Even losing key guys like Carter and Gagne, they’ve played a determined, committed, TEAM game. Something has clicked for them…definitely not the same team that lost back-to-backs against the T-Birds in late March.

Still can’t believe the Habs won in Pittsburgh on Sunday. Thought they were completely outplayed, but they blocked shots, clogged the crease, and Halak shone yet again.

Terrific game last night in Chicago…more along the lines of what was expected. May be sleep deprived now that the series heads to Vancouver.

Sharks and Wings? Hopefully the return home is good for Detroit. Datsyuk has been amazing, though. And in San Jose, who needs Jumbo Joe when you have Junior Joe averaging nearly two points a game?

I have to admit, though, that as I’m watching these games, there’s a part of me saying “thank goodness the Thrashers DIDN’T make the playoffs…they’d have been annihilated!” Seeing the intensity, the physical play, and the degree to which every single puck is challenged…well, let’s just say that the way we played coming down the stretch as we “battled” for a playoff spot doesn’t really breed a lot of confidence in our ability to succeed in the post-season. But I would have said the same of Philly and Montreal, and look where they are.

Rawhide

May 4th, 2010
3:39 pm

MB - Agree with you regarding Philly. They are down 2-0 to Boston due to an OT goal and late goal in the third period. They’re playing good, hard-nosed team hockey…what a team needs to play in the playoffs.

Also, I think your thoughts regarding the Thrashers had they made the playoffs are correct as well. Many would not have given them much of a chance had they won just 3 more games and made it in…(as a 7-seed). But then again, how many of us gave Montreal and Philly much of a chance either. Not me.

Just proves that ya gotta get in to have a chance…then make the most of that chance.

Russ

May 4th, 2010
3:45 pm

Sorry to go off on a tangent, but I was just on ESPN and read a few articles about the 17 year old kid getting tasered after running on the field at the Phillies game last night. I can’t believe some people on there are actually saying the officer used excessive force and that if the cop was in better shape he could’ve and should’ve just caught him and tackled him. Regardless of the physical condition of the officer, shouldn’t the top priority be to restrain this kid ASAP? Nobody that was trying to stop him, or the players and fans for that matter, knew what kind of threat this kid was. He could have pulled a gun out of his pocket at anytime. Even though he ended up not being a threat, you never know and I don’t think anybody would be complaing about the tasing if they found out later that he did have a weapon on him. I say good job bringing him down and protecting the public safety. It’s hard to believe that some are actually worried about the kids’ rights when he is the idiot breaking the rules being out on the field in the first place.

Russ

May 4th, 2010
3:47 pm

Sorry, now back to your regular hockey discussion.

Go Wings!!! (at least until someone else has a chance to knock Heatley out of the playoffs).

Joe Friday

May 4th, 2010
3:47 pm

Savard’s got issues. He was suspended while playing for us for doing the same thing. Carcillo is a chump, but he’s right, men don’t bite. He should be suspended for the next game, but I don’t think there’s good enough video of it.

“Jaroslav Halak… whose .931 SV% is tops of all keepers”

Nice! As long as he stays hot, they can beat anyone. Get me a goalie (and no, we don’t have one on the roster).

“Evgeni Nabokov continues his good work this spring. He is now 6-2 with a .916 SV% and playoff-low 2.02 GAA”

Oh look, there’s one!

“I couldn’t help but think “Patrick Sharp sure would look nice in a Thrashers uni next season” when he scored that shorty last night”

You and me both, from your mouth to Ricky Don Wadudley’s ears…Sharp is a player and precisely the missing link we need filled here.

Great finish to the Hawks’ game last night. Can do without the looks at Vince Vaughn’s smarmy smirk, even if he is cheering for my boys. But the shots of Stan, Espo and the Golden Jet whooping it up made my night. giddyup, this is going to be a hell of a series that’s just getting started, Game 3 should be a war.

Lee

May 4th, 2010
3:51 pm

Whoot!!!!! Go ‘Hawks!!! I’d like to see Patrick Sharp in blue! Phft. What am I thinking? Yep, Dudley would probably take him, but I forgot that “Mr. President” has to approve of it.

MB

May 4th, 2010
4:07 pm

One other thing…who was the Versus hostess Sunday night? She pretty much added nothing.

Rawhide

May 4th, 2010
4:11 pm

Nice! As long as he stays hot, they can beat anyone. Get me a goalie (and no, we don’t have one on the roster).

Joe Friday – I believe what you mean is…”get me a legitimate, top-notch, dependable, solid, proven, honest-and-for-true, USDA-Grade-A…the likes of which we’ve never really had before…goalie”.

Red Light

May 4th, 2010
4:44 pm

Allow me to clarify Mr. Rawhide’s statement

“Byron Dafoe was a No. 1 goalie playing 64 games or more in 3 seasons and winning more than 30 games in each of those but certainly not by the time he reached Atlanta. Pasi Nurminen and Kari Lehtonen could have become a No. 1 were it not for injuries and Norm Maracle was a No. 1 goalie in Detroit for one week (Nov. 21-29) in 1998 when he kicked aside 93-of-99 shots and won four straight games for the Wings,” he said snickering.

In case you missed it, Joe Friday wants Nabokov. Smoothie wants Patrick Sharp and Tomas Holmstrom, World Be Free and I would like Craig Ramsay as head coach, Sage thinks Dudley is a puppet and…

Brendan is composing a longer version of War and Peace.

Carry on…

Smoothie

May 4th, 2010
4:56 pm

Then we should talk to Montreal about making a trade for Carey Price. His career SV% is .912 which is about 1% higher than Pavelec’s. The one major difference is that Ondrej has had to face an average of about 2 more shots per game. Whether or not that has contributed to his much lower SV% is hard to say. He seems to generally play better the more shots he faces, but then again, he has been pulled about 7 or 8 more times than Price. Right now the difference seems to be in the range of 15-20 more goals allowed over 50 or so games. And that is the difference between a GAA of 3.25 and 2.80.

By the end of the season, our defense was yielding closer to 32 shots per game as opposed to the 34 or so that Ondrej commonly faced earlier in the year. Knowing that Ondrej has mechanical issues that need to be ironed out, it sure would be nice to have the assurance of a Carey Price to take over the # 1 job if Pavelec can’t get it together. And with Price a RFA, the price to get him might not be as high in terms of salary as a Nabakov or Turco. Question is do we really want to part with the assets (i.e. prospects) to take a chance on Price?

Compared to Pavelec, Price hardly seems like a reclamation project.

Smoothie

May 4th, 2010
5:01 pm

Red Light – I want Sharp, Holmstrom, Kubina or Volchenkov and Price!!

Can we do it for $14-15 M in free agency? Technically yes. Will our newly minted GM be given such a budget to spend. Probably not.

So I’d settle for Sharp, Holmstrom and Shaone Morrisonn at $9-10 M.

Brendan

May 4th, 2010
5:19 pm

No, no book today, Red Light. I just want a Red Wing win, to get this series back on track. I hope the Penguins hang 8 on the Habs. This talk about comparisons betwen Halak and Dryden/Roy in other forums has me nauseated. They did the same think to Carey Price in 2008, when Montreal was the #1 seed in the East. As I recall, Boston came storming back in that series, to force a 7th game. But Montreal won. I think the Flyers took them out in five, in the next round, ending the Price comparisons to Dryden/Roy.

Red Light

May 4th, 2010
5:46 pm

Brendan: The Wings have come back to win just 3 of 10 series after falling behind 2 games to none since 1975 or so. But, the last time they came back to win a series after being down 2-0, they won the Cup. That was in 2002 when the beat Vancouver in the first round. I’ll stick with the Sharks for now!

Red Light

May 4th, 2010
5:49 pm

Expectations are a horrible thing for a young goalie. It’s not the early 70s. BTW, Montreal is just 7-13 in its last 20 home playoff games and just 13-23 in the playoffs since moving to the Bell Centre.

Brendan

May 4th, 2010
6:53 pm

All encouraging signs for the PenGUINOS!!, Red Light. Normally, I’d be rooting for San Jose against Detroit. But not while Heatley’s there. Go Wings!!!

World Be Free

May 4th, 2010
7:12 pm

Russ-don’t get me going on the lack of support in general for police officers. AJC is guilty too for calling police offiicers “cops”. They are not cops, they are police officers.

Wish we were back in the day when “cops” used their own judgement. Had alot less crime then.

Screw ESPN too-they stink

World Be Free

May 4th, 2010
7:16 pm

Red Light – nice summarey and I want Ellis as the goalie. Nothing against Nabakov, I just think it would take too much $$$ to get him-he has no other reason to come to Atlanta.

Sign Sergei Gonchar instead

Smoothie-don’t know if Montreal is going to trade Price. Halak has some issues playing alot, he seems to break down, though you haven’t seen it much in the playoffs so far. This is from the Montreal media. Plus, it will cost us.

Spud Webb

May 4th, 2010
7:43 pm

I CANNOT believe I’m sitting here rooting for the frogs. WOW…….I’ve got myself speechless.
and LETS GO SHARKS!!! Can’t stand Heater, but love Pat m and thorton.

R. Stroz

May 4th, 2010
7:52 pm

According to Savard and Ruutu, NHL stands for National Hannibal Lecters.

Brendan

May 4th, 2010
10:11 pm

Red Wings are blowing this game vs. San Jose. They lead, 3-1, in the 3rd. It’s 3-3, heading to overtime.

Brendan

May 4th, 2010
10:15 pm

If San Jose wins this game, I doubt even the mighty Red Wings can overcome a 3-0 series deficit with San Jose. Looking for a silver lining? Imagine if the Red Wings do fall behind 3-0, then win the series, 4-3? Think the Sharks won’t dismantle the back-to-back #1 seed from the West? I’d say … they make sweeping reforms. It’d be inexcuseable for that team not to close out a 3-0 series lead, even if the opponent is Detroit. We’d all know that … the Sharks CANNOT elevate their game to Cup contendership, if that happened. They’ve been too good, for too long, to simply stand pat. There’s a lot riding on this season, as it is, for San Jose.

HookyBob

May 4th, 2010
10:40 pm

Wooooo…

The Big Red Borg is down 3-0 on a beautiful goal by Thorton.

R. Stroz

May 4th, 2010
10:45 pm

The Winged Wheel just lost their LUGNUTS.

HookyBob

May 4th, 2010
10:48 pm

Whoops.

Make that Marleau with a beautifully setup goal.

R. Stroz

May 4th, 2010
10:55 pm

Alan….

Alan….

Alan….

WINGS SUCK

Brendan

May 4th, 2010
11:24 pm

Now, R.Stroz. Let’s not pour salt in any fresh wounds. But I am … well … surprised. Yes, I’m surprised. I had the Red Wings in six. I doubt Maggie, the Monkey had SJ in four. Last year, the eventual Stanley Cup Champions were in the same boat as Detroit was tonight. The Penguins trailed Washington, 2-0, in the series, facing overtime, AT HOME, in Pittsburgh. Kris LeTang scored to put the Penguins back in the series. That didn’t happen for Detroit.

Cause for concern: Detroit led Game Two, 3-2, entering the 3rd period. They lost, 4-3. Tonight, they led SJ, 3-1, in the 3rd period, and gave up three unanswered goals to effectively become eliminated. It’s been something like 35 years since the last time that a team brought a 3-0 series deficit to a 7th game. Overdue????? If any team can do it, Detroit can. Few teams choke like San Jose. So, it’s not entirely over, but it ain’t lookin’ too good for Detroit.

So, let me ask the Red Wings fans. “What went wrong?” (1) Poor goaltending by Jimmy Howard? (2) Stupid penalties? Leading to PPGs? (3) Lobsided officiating?? (4) Being robbed by disallowed goals? (5) Mike Babcock didn’t have them prepared, or prepared a poor game plan? (6) The Red Wings are “too old,” and are aging still? (7) Something else?

I’m interested in hearing the responses. Let’s not “bash” the Red Wing fans. Let’s try to have a civil discussion. The Red Wings are … “the model franchise” of the league, since 1993. Let’s show some respect, in their lean moments, here.

Smoothie

May 4th, 2010
11:43 pm

Brendan – its kharma right! First Hossa and now Bertuzzi! Hockey gods aren’t havin’ it!

Seriously, I think the window is starting to close rather abruptly for the Aged, um I mean, the Winged Wheel. They just look old and slow and the mojo is gone.

Red Light

May 5th, 2010
7:08 am

Perhaps San Jose is just a better team with their second line doing most of the damage through nine playoff games. The Sharks seem to have learned the little things make a difference this year. Wings are dead. You don’t blow a 3-1 3rd period lead in a must-win game and come back to win a series.

World Be Free

May 5th, 2010
7:56 am

Spud-I can’t make myself root for Montreal as I did in the 70’s when the Habs had Lafleur. What is interesting about Montreal, is how many of us ragged on the Habs last summer when they went out and swooped up a bunch of UFAs. Most of those UFAs are playing pretty good right now. Gutting your team but not offering contracts to players and replacing them with UFAs is a model that may be used by others. Cammie, Metro, Moen, Gill and Spacek (before he got hurt) have all played well for Montreal.

Red Light-San Jose is a better club. Detroit looks pretty old too; no that there’s anything wrong with that! Draper and Lidstrom have both lost a step, a few others look like they are out of gas. The only thing that keeps me from cheering for San Jose to make it is Heatley. Does that guys ever throw a body check or does he just use his stick?

Who was on the ice for the last minute for Pittsburgh?
Sergei Gonchar-should be our #1 target for a UFA, a difference maker.

World Be Free

May 5th, 2010
8:01 am

Nice piece in the Buffalo News about Dudley-Bucky Gleason is a pretty good hockey writer.

http://www.buffalonews.com/2010/05/04/1040416/gleason-dudley-tries-his-luck.html

Tom

May 5th, 2010
8:20 am

Brendan

I hope someday our Thrasher’s have the chance to have “lean moments” like the Red Wings.

Bluenote

May 5th, 2010
8:48 am

Good read from Buffalo WBF. The Dudley-as-a-puppet stuff just doesn’t seem to be based on much history. Clearly he had plenty of options before taking on a turnaround project here…and a decent track record. If he could clean up the mess Mr. Wirtz left him in Chicago it can be done here.

Winning, heart and accountability solve a multitude of problems

Feu Rouge, a tip of the hat for your constant historical and statistical fact-checks. You are a walking encyclopedia. I mean that in the the best possible way.

Red Light

May 5th, 2010
8:59 am

TY Bluenote. There is something to be said about knowing where you’ve been before you can know where you’re going. Whoever said streaks are made to be broken didn’t watch sports.

Savannah Blueland Fan

May 5th, 2010
9:01 am

Hey! The minor-league baseball team in Lansing, Michigan, is the Lugnuts!

Good going, Detroit! Can’t blame last night on crappy officiating. Just a bunch of old guys resting their keisters in the penalty box…penalties that were EARNED, this time.

Tough luck, Montreal…I was cheering for you even though it nearly killed me (on account of your obnoxious fans). BTW–I am on record via this very blog as saying that Crosby has matured this year as far as the diving. Then what does he do last night at the end of period 2? Crumples to the ice like drunk high-schooler, cowering and holding his head! All for nothing! What a loser!

Red Light

May 5th, 2010
9:03 am

Nice to read an article about anything related to the Thrashers that doesn’t mention Waddell isn’t it?

Smitty

May 5th, 2010
9:11 am

WBF,

Nice article by Gleason even though he could not resist getting a little dig in concerning the fan support here in ATL. I wonder him if he has relatives in Winnipeg?

Russian

May 5th, 2010
9:15 am

I am big fan of Detroit. I came to USA at September 1994. I got my first Color TV around January 1995. I still remember that TV, it was Toshiba 37″. I got my cable hooked up and Boom – Detroit played with some team. It was 5 Russians and Scotty Bowman as a Head Coach. Since than I followed Detroit every year. I got my another favorite team as Atlanta Thrahsres, but Unfortunately, we did not make Play Off as Detroit did.
**Brendan** I can give you answer for your questions. They are TIRED. It was too much hockey for every player on the Team. On Regular season they got injuries and I think that some players still have it. I do not think that Detroit will win this round, but they will try. :-)

Joe Friday

May 5th, 2010
9:21 am

“I believe what you mean is…”get me a legitimate, top-notch, dependable, solid, proven, honest-and-for-true, USDA-Grade-A…the likes of which we’ve never really had before…goalie”.”

There you go, that’s the copy editing I expect out of Trixie, thank her for me!

“The Big Red Borg is down 3-0 on a beautiful goal by Thorton.”

Ain’t it great?!? And the Pens won a big one. Now just need the Canuckleheads to beat Chicago tonight.

GaVaHokie

May 5th, 2010
9:44 am

Looks like the Thrashers are staring at the 24th pick in the draft… a tiny twist of the knife from Heatley.

Alan R.

May 5th, 2010
9:49 am

I’m actually a bit surprised no one mentioned it yet.

Well.. I take that bad. With all the Shark fellating (who knew that could happen, eh?) going on in here, I’m not surprised it hasn’t been mentioned.

One Mr. Vinny Saponari has been kicked off the Boston College hockey team.

Smoothie

May 5th, 2010
9:56 am

Shark fellating!? Ha! Just like golf fans have acquired Tiger Fatigue Syndrome, many hockey fans have grown weary of the same bearded old men wearing Red Wing paraphenalia deep into the playoffs. Plus, Randy Hahn is play by play gold. I like having an excuse to stay up late and it might as well be west coast hockey. Let’s go Nucks and Sharks!

Alan R.

May 5th, 2010
9:57 am

Looks like someone didn’t read the article. :P

Smoothie

May 5th, 2010
9:59 am

Russian – in a random twist of fate that really has nothing to do with anything other than TV’s and Russia, my first TV was one I purchased from a grad student in the summer of ‘95 because he was get this: leaving to study abroad in Russia!! I paid $50 for this RCA 27″ TV that looked like it had been lifted from a Motel 6 somewhere. It even had a key hole on the back where it used to be locked into place! LOL

Nikita

May 5th, 2010
10:02 am

*So, let me ask the Red Wings fans. “What went wrong?”*

IMO, and I’m kind of a fan — I’d put the Red Wings in my top 7 — the problem is the roster. All season I’ve been watching the Wings struggle — which for the Red Wings means “not beat the tar easily out of all comers.” Their strategy, similar to John Anderson’s, was four equal lines — but in their case they reliably had 1-2 of what would be a top-6 forwards elsewhere on each of the top 3 lines. Over the summer they lost some top-6ers and replaced them with players who had both less scoring upside and less defensive capability. So…basically they’re playing exactly the same as last year, but with less fuel. I was shocked by the outcome of their series, but was pretty sure they didn’t have a shot at the Cup.

Also, I don’t think they were mentally prepared for that series. They basically stood there looking confused as they lost.

Nikita

May 5th, 2010
10:07 am

…aaaaand, this is just my opinion, but if the Sharks make it to the final, I’m not watching.

I’m currently hoping for Flyers or Habs vs. Canucks. I could live with the Pens, too, I suppose.

Alan R.

May 5th, 2010
10:08 am

“What went wrong?”

a. Spent all year fighting injury after injury.
b. Jason Williams
c. Jimmy Howard seems to drift off to where *someone* accused Lehtonen of residing.
d. Jason Williams
e. The Wings haven’t been playing their game, but have been trying to match the oppositions game. The KISS rule apparently went out the window this year.
f. Jason Williams.
g. That last goal last night? It’s thanks to one player, and one player only. I can’t quite think of his name. I know it starts with a J. Can anyone help me out, here?

World Be Free

May 5th, 2010
10:17 am

Smitty-I posted a note on Buffalo News a few mos back that chided the News and other media outlets about ragging on Atlanta concerning poor attendance. Like Dudley, I reminded Buffalo fans of the times when Sabres’ games were not close to being sold out. The product has to warrant the investment, no matter what city you are in except Tronna.

Bluenote-I understand the hesitancy of some fans who question whether Dudley is in control. Some still believe Waddell has the final say. Duds and Waddell are friends, have been for many years. Red Light detailed their friendship awhile back. I supported Dudley because he has never been a puppet, he’s always been his own man. I remember when he signed his contract to play in the WHA while still playing with the Sabres. He gave the Sabres his best season, even knowing he wasn’t going to be there the following season. Dudely played the game his way, 100% every game, every shift, every minute. Duds has always been his own man, I just don’t think he’s going to change at this point in his life. It is clear that he has options, but chose this situation as his best option. We cannot forget that.

In Dudley We Trust

GaVaHokie

May 5th, 2010
10:30 am

Alan R… I saw something posted on Vinny Saponari yesterday… but yeah, it’s a shame.

Alan R.

May 5th, 2010
10:38 am

Admittedly, I flipped through the blog somewhat quickly. That, and I wanted to take a jab at everyone who thinks the Sharks are the best thing since sliced bread… but that’s neither here nor there. I have deep resentment for them now for one reason alone, and I’m sure everyone remembers what that is.

But yeah, my article is from the BC student paper, so it should shed more light on the situation than anything posted pretty much anywhere else.

Smoothie

May 5th, 2010
10:50 am

Funny how different people can read the same comments but get a completely different feel for what is being said. I don’t really get a sense for people suddenly slurping the Sharks. They have a lot of good players worth watching and even if you hate Dany Heatley you’ve got to enjoy watching the Sharks play if you’re a fan of hockey. From Joe Pavelski to Marc Eduard Vlasic to Patrick Marleau to Dan Boyle (I’ve always liked Boyle even as a Bolt when he trashed ATL in the press) they have a lot of talented players. But San Jose is simply better. Can they beat the Nucks / Hawks in the WCF? That remains to be seen. But the Red Wings are yesterday’s news. Time for some new blood and some fresh stories in the West. I’ve seen Lidstrom, Holmstrom, Zetts and Pavel for several years now. I know what they can do, but they’re getting outplayed and outworked. And yes, I am delighting in the fact that Jason Williams is wrecking another good hockey team. Welcome to parity in the NHL!!

Smoothie

May 5th, 2010
10:53 am

Oh yeah, one more thing: Bertuzzi is still the biggest butt plug of them all. He and Dany should start a business venture and call it something like Boneheaded Enterprises or Damage Inc (hat tip to James and Lars for use of the song name!).

Joe Friday

May 5th, 2010
10:54 am

Let me get this straight, a soph. college hockey player went out drinking and broke team rules? Color me shocked. Between Vinny and Cormier, I’m liking our new guys more and more, out with the Enstroms, in with the bad boys!

Alan R.

May 5th, 2010
11:06 am

Lick lick slurp slurp! ;) jk Smoothie.

I’m no fairweather fan. I’ve loved the Wings since I was a little boy. Being from there, I bleed red and white. You all may cheer for whatever is the better story, but I’ll forever remain a Wings fan. :P

Russian

May 5th, 2010
11:17 am

Anybody!
I missed it. What’s happend with Vinny Saponary? Please tell me.

Smoothie

May 5th, 2010
11:23 am

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/story/?id=319796

Speaking of teen-age drinking, check this out. Can we just change the drinking age to at least 19 or something? Jeez, kids are gonna drink and get away with crap because too many parents are ass clowns.

Alan – never said you were fairweather! I’m fine with that, but I am tired of the Red Wings…would rather watch San Jose, Chicago, Vancouver or even Phoenix advance…they are fresh and exciting. Well, San Jose isn’t so fresh but I do have a man-crush on Joe Pavelski. He might be the American version of Pavel Datsyuk…I said “syuk”. Heh heh

Spud Webb

May 5th, 2010
11:24 am

For me I think it’s a combination of things. Thornton looks more determined than ever…yet on the goal to make it 3-2, he came around the net and used his body, but nobody for the wings was even near him or attempted to remove him from the puck. It “appears” the sharks are working harder than the wings. Not sure if thats being tired, older or what??
Fluery with a few beautiful saves last night, only 18 shots on him, but he had 3 or 4 that I thought were for sure goals.
Someone else mention it here, but I like Boyle too. I was explaining to my girlfriend why the thrashers are the joke of the league and danny boy was a golden example. If you dont accept this trade, we’ll cut you and the thrashers will pick you up….”I accept the trade”!!!! Priceless.
By the way, teh flyers are COOKED. it’s over.

Russian

May 5th, 2010
11:29 am

OK/ I found it. Man, I know Vinny very well. I was very happy when he drafted by Atlanta.
**Smoothie**
You cannot change Drinking Age Limit. It is very dangerous. Teenagers (16-19 years old) are driving a cars. It will be more trouble and acccidents.

Nikita

May 5th, 2010
11:31 am

I hate San Jose. I currently hate you-know-who. But before him I haaaaaated Jeremy Roenick. I have hated much of the current and past rosters — pretty much everyone but Devin Setoguchi and Jonathan Cheechoo. IMO, they do an awesome job of hiring dirtbags.

Smoothie

May 5th, 2010
11:34 am

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention. Driving age should be raised to 18 as well. No reason teen-agers need to drive until they’re just about out of HS. I didn’t learn to drive until I was 17 and it hardly ruined my life. I seriously could’ve waited until I was 18…BFD. Then again, I had no problem finding things to do with my time that didn’t involve drinking and loitering. That’s what adulthood is for!!

Dwayne

May 5th, 2010
11:36 am

Vinny and Mettenberg must have been partying together.

Smoothie

May 5th, 2010
11:47 am

http://vimeo.com/11430345

Parents, make your kids play the piano instead of learning to drive a car…it’s a better use of time! ;-)

Kane = Riot Maker

kracker

May 5th, 2010
11:57 am

Alan, you’re the Wings fan but you can probably add: h. Jason Williams.

So we know his level of play here wasn’t because he was playing here.

Alan R.

May 5th, 2010
12:00 pm

You cannot change Drinking Age Limit. It is very dangerous.

I’d say it’s only dangerous in countries where there isn’t any sort of “alcohol education” – especially any that starts at home. In countries where children are taught to respect alcohol, you don’t see near as many problems as you do in countries like England, whose approach is all “screw it, they’ll learn at the bar.” Then they wonder why binge drinking is such a huge problem.

World Be Free

May 5th, 2010
12:14 pm

The only reason that I was not kicked off the hockey team at 18 was cause at the time, the drinking age was 18. If you have kicked us all off from drinking, you wouldn’t have iced a team. I know the drinking age is 21 these days, but…..

Savannah Blueland Fan

May 5th, 2010
12:35 pm

I was guzzling beer when I was 12; but didn’t learn how to drive until I was 30. To each his own…………

Brendan

May 5th, 2010
12:39 pm

Some good Red Wing discussions, without the degeneration into “Haw-haw, Detroit’s old and sucks now.” Good job. I often offer up Ken Holland as a shining example of a quality GM. So, let me ask you Red Wings some follow up questions.

(1) Will Detroit re-arrange some pieces to add Nabakov in net?
(2) Of all the star players on Detroit, which one(s) would be willing to waive a NTC to go elsewhere?
(3) Do you see Jimmy Howard as your #1 goaltending for the coming years?
(4) Do you think Detroit will make any significant trades on Draft Day?
(5) Facing some cap restrictions, can Detroit make a big splash in free agency?
(6) Are you ‘content’ to keep essentially the same roster next year, and just try it again, hopefully WITHOUT all the injuries?

Discuss.

glovesave29

May 5th, 2010
12:39 pm

NHL -

Jordan Staal – skating 4 days after surgery to repair a torn tendon in his foot.

Eric Belanger – pulls out the broken teeth, back on the ice.

NBA -

LeBron James – has a boo boo on his elbow and has cried about it non stop in the media.

Phoenix is politically correct and will wear jerseys for “Los Suns” tonight, even though the spanish word for the Suns is “Los Soles”. And since when is the definite article on the jersey anyhow? The name is sufficient.

How anyone can prefer basketball over hockey is a mystery to me.

Smoothie

May 5th, 2010
12:40 pm

Savannah – are you being serious? Did you not learn how to drive because there was no need living in a place like Savannah?

Growing up in Albany, NY we had everything we needed nearby and if I had wanted to not learn how to drive, I could have had a very happy and productive life. We had all of these things within 2 blocks of my house:
church (2), elementary school, firehouse, bakery (2), meat market (oh how I miss Cardona’s!), deli (run by Koreans and the best subs!), drug store (2), hair salon and an authentic barber shop, dentist, doctor (only a podiatrist tho IIRC), liquor store (2), general store (2) and of course, funeral home. And there was a bus line right at the end of my street. Now, I drive EVERYWHERE and I hate it.

R. Stroz

May 5th, 2010
12:40 pm

If you can serve the country at 18, you should be legal at 18.

In the state of Georgia, around 1982, the drinking age was raised each year, for several years, until the drinking age reached 21.

The result: the number of teen deaths from driving drunk in the state of Georgia quadrupled between 1982 and 1985.

That didn’t work as planned, did it?

World Be Free

May 5th, 2010
12:41 pm

Smoothie-I have no idea why any club would sign Bertuzzi at this point in his career. “Tooz” has gone from power forward to power liability. I really have no issue with San Jose, other than that no-hit, all-stick scum bag Heatley.

The Wings kinda look like those Islanders of the mid 80’s looked near the end of their reign. The entire Islander team played alotta hockey during their “drive for five”. They were pretty tired by the time Gretzky and company caught up with them. The Wings’ core has been playing in seasons, post seasons and tournaments almost non-stop for a long time. They’re core is not 25 anymore-that’s an old team.

glovesave29

May 5th, 2010
12:41 pm

Brendan – If the Wings suck now, I sure hope the Thrash suck that much in the coming years!

Smoothie

May 5th, 2010
12:42 pm

*no need driving in a place like Savannah

Sorry about the Freudian slip

And yes, the NBA sucks. And the Suns have worn those stupid jerseys before. Perhaps they went with Los Suns since they didn’t want to appear as Lost Souls (Los Soles)…why must everyone protest crap in the media? You’re a basketball team…play basketball and shut-up.

glovesave29

May 5th, 2010
12:44 pm

Smoothie – like my dad always said “If not by reason, by volume”.

Smoothie

May 5th, 2010
12:50 pm

Stroz – unfortunately, I am not surprised at the impact of that short-sighted passage of legislation. If you teach kids how to be responsible and value life, then you won’t have as many accidents. A drinking age of 21 does nothing but encourage duplicitous behavior by angst-ridden teen-agers turning the corner into adulthood.

World Be Free

May 5th, 2010
12:54 pm

Brendan-

(1) Will Detroit re-arrange some pieces to add Nabakov in net?
–No-
(2) Of all the star players on Detroit, which one(s) would be willing to waive a NTC to go elsewhere?
–They will not move their core players, just add some youth.

(3) Do you see Jimmy Howard as your #1 goaltending for the coming years? –Yes
(4) Do you think Detroit will make any significant trades on Draft Day? Maybe for an experienced, young player.
(5) Facing some cap restrictions, can Detroit make a big splash in free agency?
–Getting Hudler back will be similar to a significant UFA signing. Lidstrom’s status is a factor too.
(6) Are you ‘content’ to keep essentially the same roster next year, and just try it again, hopefully WITHOUT all the injuries?

–A lot will depend on if Lidstrom retires. Nik would create a huge hole on the defense – but it will also free up $$$ for a younger replacement like Dam Hamhius. They need to cut Bertuzzi, retire Maltby and Draper and get younger on defense.

Nate

May 5th, 2010
12:55 pm

Gary: I say Sharp and that’s it. Maybe Cormier. And drop some dead weight, Todd White *cough* and that’s the extent of my dream team. I honestly like the rest of the team minus the goalie situation. And Sharp seems the most realistic. The Hawks will have to dump players for picks to fit under the cap and the Thrashers have two first rounders. Seems like a win-win situation to me…

Alan R.

May 5th, 2010
1:03 pm

Lidstrom said at one point that before he hangs up the skates for good, he wants to play in Sweden. He just turned 40. I think he’s starting to show his age a little, and his departure from the NHL is imminent.

All Wings fans know that day will eventually come. Just, it may be coming any year now. Possibly this one.

Excuse me, while I go throw up.

Smoothie

May 5th, 2010
1:08 pm

glovesave – nice pithy saying

WBF – indeed…Bertuzzi is a scum bag

Nate – I vote YES to Sharp!!

Alan – y’all could always bring back Cheli! ;-) Lidstrom is one of the greatest players ever, but even he is starting to show his age. Probably the by-product of so many games in such a short period of time with all of the deep playoff runs they’ve had. Oh, and Brad Stuart is awful…they need young D-men.

Savannah Blueland Fan

May 5th, 2010
1:14 pm

I was serious, yes. Guess I just had no where to go HAHA. Actually, I left for college at 17 and moved to Houston. I barely had money for food, let alone a car. Lived there for several years, came back to Savannah, and just managed to somehow get by without an auto. It can be done. Then took a job in Hilton Head and had to learn how to drive, get a license, and purchase a car—all in 2 days.

Back to our program—I don’t think, personally, that Detroit would be in the hole as deep as they are now if not for those phantom calls in the first two games of this series. I know some went both ways; but it was mostly Detroit that suffered. The refereeing (is that the word?) SUCKED. My opinion and no one can talk me out of it. Last night, however, well…..that was just a bunch of tired old men.

Alan R.

May 5th, 2010
1:19 pm

Smoothie – Are you out of salt yet?! My open wounds are practically swimming with the stuff, yet the salt keeps on coming…

No, I think one of the last things the Wings need is to shed a 40 year old defenseman, and add in his place a 49 year old defenseman. At least, on the ice. I’d say he either takes a job in the front office in Detroit or Chicago somewhere. He still has his Chili bar in Detroit (that I still need to go eat at), after all.

World Be Free

May 5th, 2010
1:21 pm

Alan R-you wonder how Lidstrom will fair on those larger European rinks. I never played on a 100′ wide rink, but I bet the additional 15′ must be wild for a defenseman. It would be great if you are a forward! Kinda like playing football on a CFL-size field.

I am with you on Sharp for pick #24 in the first round.

Tony C.

May 5th, 2010
1:23 pm

granted the officiating (especially in game 2) has been suspect, but I think the thing is, we have all become accustomed to the deadwings getting just ONE opportunity to even the score and/ore open a lead… and converting that ONE opportunity into a “key play” that is broken down in their annual Sports Illustrated Stanley Cup Champions RedWings comerative video…

Red Light

May 5th, 2010
1:30 pm

Red Wings’ Maladies
• Check their No. of Olympians and their minutes played in Vancouver!
• Couldn’t replace Samuelsson with Bertuzzi and Williams
• Injuries
• Mike Vernon, Dominik Hasek and Chris Osgood aren’t in net
• Owner Mike Ilitch’s wife is named Marian and she misses her namesake Hossa.
• After effect of losing assistant GM Don Waddelll 12 seasons later!

glovesave29

May 5th, 2010
1:47 pm

WBF – the anaolgy to the CFL doesn’t work for one reason – the defense in football must defend the whole width of the goal line…hense the extra width means more ground to cover for the defense. In hockey, it changes the angles the D takes. The goal is the same size, unlike the football analogy. A dman who is smart with his angles and doesnt get suckered out of position can make the transition rather seamlessly. The offense has more room to move and is thus more creative, there is less dump-and-chase and less screening of the goalies and low slot play. I personally prefer the wider rink, but then I am a goalie, so that should not come as any great shock.

World Be Free

May 5th, 2010
1:48 pm

Red Light-I think Samuelsson’s value was underrated by everyone.
Canucks have him locked up for a efw seasons-good move on their part.

Tony C.

May 5th, 2010
1:50 pm

RedLight
Reason #1 is the biggest obstacle they’ve got.

That being said, it seems the “underacheiver” tag has FINALLY gotten under the skin of San Jose’s collective psyche… That, and I think the guys they brought in for “presence” are providing just that-I doubted SJ in the 1st round, but even if we throw out game 2’s result (and I’m inclined to-even though I can’t stand Detroit-they got jobbed for sure), and replace it with a RedWings win, the Sharks are still up 2-1 and Detroit looks less and less able/interested in giving forth the winning effort.

World Be Free

May 5th, 2010
2:23 pm

Glovesave-I was merely referring to the larger surface in the CFL vs. “real football”.

I ran all over the rink when I was a young defenseman. The older I got, the more I relied on angles and eliminating the quality shots. It’s not that I am adverse to the corners, but forwards have less success scoring from the boards as they do the slot, especially with fine goalies as yourself between the pipes.

Spud Webb

May 5th, 2010
2:31 pm

When I was watching game one of the Sharks-detroit series, I was watching heatly and thought “he must be hurt”, he’s NOT MOVING. A whack here, a slide there, boom play is past him. What has happened?? He’s the power forward, minus ANY POWER. I’m sorry, goals and all, he’s a sissy. At least he doesn’t dive like Cindy. But geeeez.

Brendon, I think the Wings will make a splash, SOMEWHERE…a team with that many resources will not stand pat. If Nik stays or goes, they will do something major. Must be nice to be a wings fan!! I’ll take their down year anytime!!

glovesave29

May 5th, 2010
2:57 pm

I hear ya WBF! You shouldnt be in corners anyhow, that leaves the slot wide open…and in our beer leagues, you can bet that the forwards surely are not coming back to help. No cherry-picking going on, is there? Ha!

Sage of Bluesland

May 5th, 2010
3:01 pm

“Red Wings’ Maladies…After effect of losing assistant GM Don Waddelll 12 seasons later!”

Now THAT was funny!

This is ‘Quote-of-the-Year’ material.

kracker

May 5th, 2010
3:30 pm

Ya know things are improving when Sage can laugh about anything concerning former GM Don Waddell!

Lee

May 5th, 2010
4:09 pm

Halak is a beast! I’d take him in replace for one of our upcoming FA’s but looks like he ain’t going anywhere.

World Be Free

May 5th, 2010
4:21 pm

Waiting for Sage to chime in-and he’s correct!

Glovesave-have to say I had more fun in the beer leagues than anywhere else. Those leagures are very competitive too!

Spud-Heatley reminds me of Roy, Pominville, Hecht, Stafford and Connolly-soft as a twinkie!

Joe Friday

May 5th, 2010
4:45 pm

Heatley is missing the key ingredient that makes good players great . . . heart.

glovesave29

May 5th, 2010
4:58 pm

WBF – why in past tense? Hung up the skates? Tell me it is’t so!

JF – and Heatley took away the player who had more of it than everyone else on the team combined.

Brendan

May 5th, 2010
5:50 pm

To be clear, I don’t think the Red Wings suck. There are many teams who would swap rosters, immediately, with Detroit. Good organizations find a way to improve and remain competitive. I think Detroit has some nice potential with Helm, Abdelkader, Howard, Kronwall, and Filppula. Plus, they’re a desireable market, so talent will always gravitate towards them. Indeed, it must be nice to be “Hockeytown.”

Red Light

May 5th, 2010
6:59 pm

I wouldn’t feel too sorry for the Wings either. They’ll be back quickly and Holland still has cap room to maneuver where he wants to go during the next two off seasons. Franzen, Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Fillpula, Cleary, Hudler, Rafalski and Kronwall are a nice base from which to work, and he’s only paying his two goalies a total of $1.9 million next year. Not a Stuart fan either, but Holland’s got $17 million left to work with. They’re not the Wings we’re used to seeing at this time of year and that’s a good thing in my opinion! I get a little tired of the red-and-white!

Red Light

May 5th, 2010
9:50 pm

The loss of Carter, Gagne and Laperriere leaves the Flyers a shell of a team, particularly on the power play. The once occasionally dominant Timonen is a shadow of his former self. He doesn’t seem like the same player of 1, 2 or three years ago. It has been a long time since the Flyers were swept in a 7-game series but as far as I am concerned, the golf courses up there are in perfect condition for them right now. Holmgren got lucky with the opening round win, but now he’s in the same position as he was before, looking for answers. FORE!

Brendan

May 5th, 2010
10:52 pm

Boston has put a ’stranglehold’ on its series with Philly. I liked the way the Philly fans booed their team with 6:00 left in the 3rd period. See, they’re NOT polite in Philadelphia. If the Flyers get swept, the boos will be even louder. And Philly ownership will “care” enough to address the situation. If it were the Thrashers facing elimination at home vs. Boston, we’d sit there … QUIETLY … perhaps mumbling to our neighbors, and offering excuses about lawsuits hampering the ownership, and so forth. But we wouldn’t “boo.” And ownership would do absolutely nothing, not hearing the voice of DISPLEASURE on the part of Thrasher fans. Go Philly!! You guys Rock! Go on witcha bad selves. And “boo” loud enough for ownership to someone accountable.

Brendan

May 6th, 2010
12:40 am

I’m breathing a little easier with my pick of Chicago over Vancouver. I hope it lasts. The last Blackhawk goal should have been disallowed. But hey, it didn’t radically alter the outcome of the game. The score was 4-2, in favor of Chicago, at the time. Vancouver’s fans were quiet.

Go Blackhawks! Will this be the year they put the Leafs ‘officially’ on the clock? 1961 … and counting … for Chicago. The Leafs sit next, at 1967.

Red Light

May 6th, 2010
7:50 am

Vancouver played like their playoff teams of the recent past…”They’re just a bunch of pansies”

World Be Free

May 6th, 2010
7:53 am

“Heatley is missing the key ingredient that makes good players great . . . heart”

And that’s never more evident than in the playoffs. Not hit, all stick, refusal to get dirty to make plays. Heatley hit the jackpot when he was given the chance to play with Thornton.

Glovesave-yeah I am retired for now. Heading to Buffalo this summer, so I may look at new skates. I am currently wearing an old pair of Mike Ramsey’s skates, so they are kinda old.

Red Light-I think Carter is just as important to Philly as Richards. Laperriere is still one of the toughest players in the league, has been for over a decade.

Brendan-Philly fans being polite? Just ask Mike Schmidt, Donovan McNabb or Steve Carleton how polite Philly fans have been over the years.

rob

May 6th, 2010
9:12 am

Who posted that comment as Sage? I can’t beweive it wuz weely him because none of the fans were called names LOL

Spud Webb

May 6th, 2010
9:19 am

Well, I called it yesterday afternoon, philly is COOKED, bye!!! I cannot believe Boston is going to make the conference finals. Have I mentioned I HATE BOSTON?? Rask is good, really good!!
WBF, Carlton as great a pitcher as he was, was a d&ck to fans and the media!!! Santa isn’t welcome in Philly!! NICE……….
Too bad about the canucks, I like that team.

Savannah Blueland Fan

May 6th, 2010
9:22 am

The Thrasher fans would sit quietly mainly because it’s embarrassing to be loud when you are the only person in your section. Sometimes the truth hurts. But the Philly fans booing was kind of funny (smirking). They should be thankful their team even made it this far because they sucked near the end of the regular season.

GO CHICAGO! GO CHICAGO! GO CHICAGO! The “hat trick” from Bufglik–Bufgo-whatever That guy from Minnesota– was false. Nevermind that he clearly interfered with Luongo, but he kicked it in. But the game was already won anyway so GO CHICAGO! GO CHICAGO! GO CHICAGO!

World Be Free

May 6th, 2010
9:24 am

Spud-Carlton is a strange guy, his distain for the fans and media grew over time and being critisized alot. He didn’t like that, kinda like another buddy of ours, Dennis “Oil Can” Boyd. Shoulda been called “Garbage Can”.

Red Light

May 6th, 2010
9:28 am

World Be Free

Certainly my opinion runs contrary to yours and the others’ sentiments, but here goes.

Interesting that you should toss Thornton’s name in the “jackpot” message, when he is one of the great underachievers in recent playoff history. In 85 career playoff games, Big Joe has 14 goals, 47 assists and is -15 in those games and has never scored two goals in any playoff game. And while not a “goal scorer” per se, he has just (1) three-point game during his playoff career.

Heatley has (4) three-point games in 42 career playoff games, 44 points and an even rating.

Marleau has scored twice in a playoff game just once (4/20/07) during his career which spans 100 playoff games. He has 38 goals, 29 assists and is -7 in those games.

The Sharks new hero, Pavelski, had three straight games with 2 goals and an assist in this year’s playoffs alone and now has 15 goals, 11 assists and is +10 in 34 career playoff contests.

Big Joe has never made it past the 2nd round during his career, while Heatley has played in the Cup Finals. You can call him soft, selfish, a teammate killer or whatever, but who really hit the jackpot? I say it’s Thornton.

Too Funny

May 6th, 2010
10:16 am

The Hawks are having to discount their second round playoff tickets. The ASG should try investing in the Thrashers instead of pouring the bulk of their resources into the Hawks.

http://www.atlantaonthecheap.com/2010/05/05/25-off-hawks-playoff-tickets-for-games-3-4-of-round-2/

Oh well, in the words of Ron White, you can’t fix stupid.

World Be Free

May 6th, 2010
10:24 am

Red Light-as usual, you make your point and back it with facts that cannot be disputed. Thornton has certainly been a “regular season guy”, always has been which made his expendable in Boston. I can’t believe the Bruins made that trade at the time, giving up on a big man. But you look at Boston and I say they are better off without Thornton and with Savard, a smaller man in stature but much larger in heart.

My reference to thornton is as a setup man, his ability to make a guy like Cheechoo look like a star. You gotta think SJ went after Heatley to get an upgrade on Cheechoo from a goal scoring perspective. I hope Joe can find himself and raise his playoff performance this season to a level never achieved.

I still hate Heatley-have a tough time being objective about the creep.

rob

May 6th, 2010
10:29 am

Spudd,
I hate the Bruins too, just hate the Bums in Philly more, and yet I cheered for the Bums because of my distaste for one Mr Kovalsucks. I say Go Bruins now, and hope that the Pens make it to destroy them!!! The playoffs always make for interesting matchups and who you want to win, and it’s series like Hawks/Nucks last year and after the showing off to fans after the hat trick last night that give the fans such passion about the game. The next game in that series should be a great one, and I hope that the winner there humiliates the Sharks! It’s all about the rivalries!!!

Joe Friday

May 6th, 2010
10:37 am

”They’re just a bunch of pansies”

No kiddin. I was expecting a war, and they rolled over like a bunch of pansies. Pffft.

I’d take Thornton over Heatley every day and twice on Sundays. Thornton brings a lot of intangibles that don’t show on the scoresheet (nobody counts backchecks and forechecks). Next time you see Dany give up his body on the forecheck will be the first time you seen it. Heatley’s a lazy cherry picker, Thornton will mix it up and create space for his lineups.

Stats can be culled this way and that to try to back any opinion. I’m pretty black and white. Just win baby.

Alan R.

May 6th, 2010
10:47 am

Haven’t looked through here yet to see if it’s been posted, but it seems the Manitoba Moose coach Arniel has interviewed with the Blue Jackets. An interview with the Thrashers is apparently pending.

I’m interested to see what happens. He’s apparently pretty high on a lot of teams’ wish lists for coaching.

glovesave29

May 6th, 2010
11:03 am

Spud – worked at a signings show a few years back with Steve Carlton. I was the one at the table taking the tix and snapping photos with him and his fans. I got to spend the better part of the day with him, and I gotta say he is one nice guy. Told stories. Went above and beyond what a lot of the other athletes do at the shows. I think he hates the media and they in turn hate him. He’s a more reserved person, but I would have disagree with what I have read of him…

As for the Hawks…I’d like to see them win to piss off the Leafs fans as they would now have the longest dry spell, but the idea of a silversmith in Montreal engraving the name “Marian Hossa” into the holy grail kinda makes me sick.

rob

May 6th, 2010
11:08 am

Interesting to see how all of this coaching shakes out in the end. Good look at Arniels philosophy about teaching the young guys right and bringing them up quickly to get the most out of them. I can definitely see that same thought with the Thrashers, especially w the octomess running it. So, in that type scenario, an AHL coach who has a solid grasp on the game and a game plan that is more than 1 dimensional (like JA) and works well with developing players might not be as bad as some of you have made it out to be. We are, and will continue to be, a young team that will need a coach willing to teach and analyze those who can play, and bring up replacements for those that can’t. That being said, Dudley has had a year to look around and see the talent that is already here, and what needs improvement, and I am sure he will find us the coach best suited to this situation.

rob

May 6th, 2010
11:11 am

glovesave,
Maybe Hossa can be left off “mistakenly” if they manage to win? Or have his name mispelled Mary Anne Hossa

glovesave29

May 6th, 2010
11:22 am

I want a coach who is like a great chef. He walks into the kitchen, takes stock of the supplies, and makes something great out of what he has. Has flexibility and creativity.

We had a coach with a good recipe, but without the supplies to make the meal. He hoped that in time, his ingredients would change to allow him to make what he wished to do in the beginning. But a mushroom cannot become a filet. His inflexibility and lack of creativity to vary from his vision was his downfall.

ChippersLoveChild

May 6th, 2010
11:56 am

Why the hate for Hossa?

Trixie (Rawhide's Secretary)

May 6th, 2010
12:14 pm

:!: RANALLO WARNING!! :!:

This is your official 10-minute Ranallo Warning.

New rawhide blog in 10 minutes.