For those still hoping for Kovy to come back – We need to have a little chat
From the comments posted during the past few days, it looks as though most of us agree that Thrasherville A.K. (After Kovalchuk) is not as bad a place to reside as some had feared. In fact…life after Kovy isn’t so bad at all.
However, there have been some who have asked me, e-mailed me, texted and phoned me about the possibility of a Kovy-Thrashers reunion this summer. You tell me the organ-I-zation has the cap space…you remind me that Kovalchuk still has a home in here…you insist that it is still possible, still feasible that Ilya could be persuaded to “come home”. You’re still thinking about…chatting about…hoping for…wishing for…a possible Ilya Kovalchuk return.
And so, it is time we had a little intervention…a “come to Jee-zus meeting”, as it were.
slap…slap…
OK, now that I have your attention, let me introduce a new word into your vocabulary…
Stopit-forgiddaboutit-notgonnahappen-nowayinhell-donotdothistoyourselfanymore
Let’s look at this matter from two different angles…logic and emotion.
First, logic… logic that takes the form of dollars and cents.
I take you back to last summer when I opined that the Thrashers would probably allocate any increase in Kovy’s salary by simply moving the departing Slava Kozlov’s $3.6 million over to Ilya’s column. The combined salaries would equate to roughly the $10 million they offered to pay him over three, five or seven seasons. This way, they didn’t have to shuffle around other funds to pay for Kovy’s increase.
However, Kovy said “nyet” and was then shipped off to skate in the swamplands of New Jersey. As a product of that transaction, we now have Johnny Oduya’s $3 million to account for as well as whatever the team and Nic Bergfors settle on in order to re-ink that pending RFA. Last season he made just over $800,000 and I think the kid played well enough to expect some sort of raise, don’t you?
So as you can see, the money set aside for Kovalchuk’s “raise” has been reapportioned elsewhere…(for those of you from Hall County, that means, “The money done all been spent”).
Taking the monetary matter a little further… if you look at where the organization is right now in regards to players signed for next season, it is true that they have a great deal of cap-space to work with and, theoretically, they are one of the few teams that could actually handle a contract the size of which Ilya will again seek to obtain.
Those roster players currently with a contract for the 2010-11 campaign are Antropov, Kane, White, Reasoner, Thorburn, Peverley, Hainsey, Enstrom, Oduya, Bogosian and Valabik. Combined they have the Thrashers at a little over $28 million in cap.
So, that still leaves them with a lot of money to spend…right?
Uh-huh…
But do you also want to bring back Afinogenov…maybe even Kubina? How about Little, Slater, Bergie and Artyukhin…maybe even Armstrong if the price is right? Well if so… and if they came back at just their same salaries as last year… that alone would add another $12 mil or so to the budget, bringing it to about $40 mil.
But I’m gonna bet that players like Max, Slater, Little and Bergfors will be looking for some love via a salary bump…so maybe the number required to keep them is more like $15 or $16 million at a minimum. It probably could be higher, but I’m trying to keep this simple.
Now you are sitting close to the $44 million range. But we haven’t even begun to chat about paying a goalie or two…and last I checked, those are really good to have around on a hockey team.
Between Pavelec and Hedberg last season, the Thrashers spent a cool two and a half mil. So if you bring back Moose and Pavs, something Rick Dudley has stated he’s comfortable with, chances are good that right at about $3 mil minimum will be going out the door to pay for that goalie tandem…bringing the total to around the $47 million mark.
At this point, what you have on your team are two goalies, six defenders and twelve forwards. You still need to deal with a seventh blueliner, (maybe Pops or Schubie) and another couple forwards to give you some healthy scratches, (Boulton or MacArthur types)…and this doesn’t even bring in to the discussion what to do with the likes of Arturs Kulda, Spencer Machacek, etc.
So let’s say Dudley is thrifty enough to round out the remaining roster spending just another $3 million or so. That would mean the total is now closing in on $50 million.
And for that price, you pretty much get the same team that went 11-11-5 after Kovy was sent off to chase Lord Stanley’s Cup dressed up as a Devil. No upgrades.
I don’t know about you…but I want an upgrade or two.
Personally, what I would rather see Dudley do with that cash is try to bring in a quality starter between the pipes…one that can handle the load for another year or so before handing the job off to Opie full time. Also, a winger to replace Kozlov in the lineup would do the trick nicely too.
Regardless, I just don’t see how Kovalchuk’s desired salary can fit back in the system as far as the accounting department is concerned, even if he would entertain the notion of returning here.
Would you like to see Kovy back as a Thrasher?
- Sure! We could use the goals (8%, 16 Votes)
- No Way! He's gone and I'm over it (65%, 128 Votes)
- Only if he takes less than offered last winter (27%, 54 Votes)
Total Voters: 198
Loading ...And that brings us to the emotion aspect of why I don’t care to see it happen…even if the funds were made available. And the only way I can explain this is with the following analogy.
Ladies, please forgive me as this really is directed toward those in our midst who are of the male persuasion
I’m sure all of us have in our past that one girlfriend that could be classified as “high maintenance”. She was stunningly beautiful and equally as fun to be with. But this chick demanded attention 24/7…and we dropped much coin to keep this young gal happy and well attended.
Yeah…you remember her now, don’t you?
Anyway…something happened and the relationship went Tango Uniform. It could have been caused by any number of things really…you said the wrong thing…you didn’t say the right thing…you forgot her poodle’s birthday…you failed to remember the 7th month anniversary of the first time she allowed you to buy her a piece of jewelry…possibly you just ran out of money.
Maybe, after you’d searched the world over and thought you’d found true love, she met another and …pttthhh…she was gone.
But then, after a few months of time healing the wound, a buddy of yours informs you he’d run into [insert name of high-maintenance ex here] and she had asked about you…she seemed to miss ya, he says. He suggests that you call her up and seeing if the ‘ol flame could be re-kindled…wink-wink-nod-nod.
Now just after the painful breakup, you would have jumped on this chance as hard and fast as Rosie O’Donnell would an open buffet. But now…well, time has passed, you’ve met another cutie pie that is just as much fun to be with… if not more so…and money has somehow found a way to remain in your bank account. Spending time with her didn’t necessarily mean having to spend a pant-load of money on her…at least not every night.
That, plus everything in your little world didn’t have to revolve around whether or not what you did or didn’t do meant losing or keeping her. It was more an “us” thing…not just “her”. And besides…where did you really go in life with her around anyway?
So you thought about it, then handed over to your buddy the ex’s number and told him she likes red roses, dark chocolate, diamond bracelets, fancy cars, five-star restaurants, rock concerts and orchestra level seats at the opera…telling him to have a blast while the money holds out.
Yup, back then you realized that you were a better person without her and it just made no sense at all to go down that road again. You’d discovered that life after [insert name of high-maintenance ex here] not only wasn’t so bad at all…it was actually better.
Today…you can insert Ilya Kovalchuk in those brackets.
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Smoothie
April 21st, 2010
10:55 am
Red Light – I’m trying to be realistic. At least he maintained his production in only 67 games as opposed to “shredded cheese” man, who made a 3 game cameo in the spring in which he scored 6 goals. Other than that, and some above average defense, he was underwhelming.
Smoothie
April 21st, 2010
10:59 am
PS – If we hope to re-up Fins & Kubina, after giving raises to all our RFA (the MacArthur trade is really going to look bad in hindsight because he is going to cost us precious dollars that should be going to other FA resources such as a better goalie), then we must target players such as Glencross for the 3rd line. We probably can’t afford Raffi Torres and after him, there aren’t a lot of UFA’s worth writing home about. Oh yeah, Malhotra already turned us down (supposedly) and I can’t see him coming to ATL from a “Cup contender”.
World Be Free
April 21st, 2010
10:59 am
LAC-so giddy about the possibility of Kovy be out of the playoffs early that I forgot about the #1 pick we are getting from the Devils.
Bill-problem is I want Arty and Bolts. I think complictaed each other in the lineup pretty well after arty came on board.
Joe Friday-that’s what Chicago gets for overpaying their skaters. the miss Campbell’s puck movement; they may have to try and dump his salary this summer to afford a #1 goalie.
Nabakov for sure, but we need to make sure we do not overpay him. Don’t know how that’s done (Dud’s job again).
World Be Free
April 21st, 2010
11:01 am
That’s complimented each other, not complicated each other-guess I better egt back to work
Red Light
April 21st, 2010
11:03 am
I’m not advocating Army, I’m saying neither. Frankly, I’d take Nigel Dawes off Calgary at $850k because he can skate, check and give you an occasional goal and he’s younger than both of the others. He, too, hasn’t played a full season, but he’s 25. Comparatively speaking, wouldn’t you rather give the kids (if ready) time on the 3rd line than sign one of these guys instead?
Alan R.
April 21st, 2010
11:07 am
On goaltending… I’m all for going after Nabokov.
Thanks, but no thanks. I’ll pass. I’d sooner hand the reins to Pavelec, or someone from the Wolves.
Red Light
April 21st, 2010
11:17 am
Dudley’s not going to sign a goaltender for $6 million plus. PIPE DREAM!
Joe Friday
April 21st, 2010
11:22 am
If we go with the same goaltending tandem and they don’t seriously upgrade there, then it’s Unleash The GroundHog Day. Biggest change this club needs, and has needed every single year, is a true, proven #1
Smoothie
April 21st, 2010
11:22 am
Red – that’s a tough question, but for the same reason you would prefer Dawes is the reason CGY will likely prefer Dawes and re-sign him. Since he’s only under contract for one year, and seeing as how CGY could benefit from a young D-man prospect, I could see us working a deal with them for a player like Glencross. Personally, I’d rather have Higgins as a potential reclamation project but I don’t see us spending that kind of coin. I’m totally open to suggestions as I’m just trying to spark conversation. Not sure Machacek is the answer right now. But I feel pretty certain C-Mac isn’t either.
Spud Webb
April 21st, 2010
11:24 am
My top “resigning” list…
1. Kubina, pay him 3 mill, lets do this first.
2. Little, still developing, responsible player.
3. Artyukhin, loved what he showed here in the ATL, keep him please.
4. Bergfors, let him develop and let us hope we don’t hinder him.
5. Slater, showed me enough (yes, I’m the slater hater) this season to say “I’ll do whatever it takes”.
All just my opinion. I’m not even going to put the name of the guy who we traded on this blog. His time is done here. Move on with the future please.
Alan R.
April 21st, 2010
11:31 am
I agree with you, Joe. However, handing the keys to Nabokov isn’t going to work. It’s not working in San Jose, at least.
GaVaHokie
April 21st, 2010
11:36 am
Thanks, but no thanks. I’ll pass. I’d sooner hand the reins to Pavelec, or someone from the Wolves.
Why? Are you basing it on Nabokov’s current slump since the Olympic break?
I still consider him amongst the tops in the league.
Joe Friday
April 21st, 2010
11:40 am
“I still consider him amongst the tops in the league.”
Yep, he kept them in last night’s game and gave them a chance to win
Alan R.
April 21st, 2010
11:43 am
Nabokov was shaky, even before the Olympics. No thanks. If I wanted shaky, I’d keep the tandem we have now.
Think outside the box.
R. Stroz
April 21st, 2010
11:47 am
I’m just happy that Kovy, for the first time since November, is helping the Thrashers.
Smoothie
April 21st, 2010
11:49 am
Spud – good list of priorities, but I’m afraid it may take between $4 and 4.5 M to sign Kubina, depending on the length of contract.
Dwayne
April 21st, 2010
11:53 am
The quicker Chicago gets knocked out, the quicker we will know John Torchetti is our coach. Maybe Stepane Waite comes with him and we don’t worry AS MUCH about Opie. Moose, if he comes back, is a proven # 2 and a great guy. I feel the key is Kubina, or an equal replacement and Bogo, he must have a solid year. I’ll take a 2-1 win anyday over a 5-4 loss. No Kovy !!!
GaVaHokie
April 21st, 2010
11:55 am
Smoothie… I can’t see Kubina accepting “Ron Hainsey” money. I’d say he stays in the $5 million range.
kracker
April 21st, 2010
11:55 am
Heat Miser, I want the new face of this franchise to be a W with a big number under it.
Rawhide
April 21st, 2010
11:57 am
Evgeni Nabakov? Gimme some of that action…right now! Yes he’ll be 35 this summer, but he still brings it.
In the last four seasons he is 156-65-30 with a 2.33 GAA. .914 SV% and 23 shutouts.
His playoff numbers this season after 4 games played…2.12 GAA and .913 SV%. He lost 6-5 in game 3 against the Avs, but in the other three games he has allowed but 4 goals on 81 shots, (.951 SV%). Last night he was fantastic, stopping 33 of 34 during 70+ minutes of play.
As for the “post-Olympic slump”…true mid March was rough for him, but Nabokov finished the regular season 7-1-1 allowing 20 goals on 273 shots faced, (.927 SV%).
If that’s a slump…gimme some of that.
Smoothie
April 21st, 2010
11:59 am
GVH – his age should be used to discount his next contract irrespective of what Ron Hainsey makes. He’s not exactly fleet of foot. If he balks, then let him walk. Or find someone more desperate than us for defense, if that exists, and trade Ron Hainsey for a forward that can bolster our 2nd line.
J.B.
April 21st, 2010
12:03 pm
I’m just happy that Kovy, for the first time since November, is helping the Thrashers.
BEST BLOG COMMENT EVER STROZ
World Be Free
April 21st, 2010
12:13 pm
Stroz-I missed your one-liners and that one is so true.
I would take Nabakov tomorrow. That was before Bill’s “numbers”. Nabakov is not the problem in San Jose.
Dwayne-Comcast Chicago had Torchetti on TV last night right ebfore the start of the 3rd period of the NSH-CHI game. He looks head coach ready, but I hope Duds gives Ramsay an interview as well. I am a big Rammer fan and not because he’s a former Sabre.
Spud-no Max? Never thought I’d advocate for Jimmy wither, but he earned it last season.
Red Light and Smoothie on Nigel Dawes. Now there’s another player the Rangers gave up on. Sather must be getting senile or something. R-L, I think we need to cut ties with Army, he just doesn’t do anything for me on a consistent basis. Dudley and the new coach won’t stand for him disappearing for 3-4 games at a time.
Duds has got to figure out what he’s going to do with MacArthur. Keep or deal? Most of the guys mentioned around here recently are 3rd liners. Dudley is looking for top 6 forwards. Dawes is more like a 4th liner.
GaVaHokie
April 21st, 2010
12:17 pm
Rawhide… by slump, I was more referencing his confidence. I think he was a little shaky with the early Russia exit in the Olympics. Which is why I’m hoping San Jose makes a bad decision and let him walk. Few teams will be able to offer the $5 million plus salary he’ll require… if you want to put Kovy and Kozy money somewhere. There it is.
Smoothie… don’t think age will be a factor in Kubina… if he were 36 maybe… but his TOI will be a huge sticking point. I don’t think you can let him walk.
http://tsn.ca/NHL/teams/statistics/?hubname=nhl-thrashers
GaVaHokie
April 21st, 2010
12:20 pm
Smoothie… I meant for that link to be sorted by ATOI.
Red Light
April 21st, 2010
12:23 pm
Why, after the year he had in Atlanta, would Kubina sign for less money than he was making last year? He’s only 33 years old (same birthdate as Kovy BTW), had better stats than his career averages for the third straight year, has been told that the Thrashers want him back.
Comparing him to other veteran defensemen similar in age like Chara, who makes $7.5 million, Kim Johnsson, $5.3 million, Raflaski, $6 million, Visnovsky, $4.6 million, Souray $4.5 million, McCabe, $4.15 million, Zidlicky, $4 million, and Markov and Hamrlik both signed for more than $5 million, why would he or his agent accept less than he made last year?
The answer: they wouldn’t! They’re not taking less than they made last year for the length of the contract.
drajax
April 21st, 2010
12:23 pm
when Kovy left I was pleased to see the team could win without him and I was not interested in resigning him. But watching him play for the Devils, I’ve been impressed all over again and working with your analogy, maybe the team realizes it can stand on its own now and force the star to bend to play a more team game and maybe that dazzling star sees the error of his ways. I would definitely welcome him back if the price was reasonable. Considering how much we got from the Devils I’s even say a kind word about management.
World Be Free
April 21st, 2010
12:24 pm
Anyone see Brodeur’s “save” last night? Even the Flyers fans were “ooohhhing”.
Eklund’s latest post is about Kovalchuk; some pretty amusing responses. I normally don’t read Eklund, but the subject matter was what we are conversing about today.
“His numbers speak for themself”. Response-Not a a “team” they don’t!
Red Light
April 21st, 2010
12:30 pm
World: Dawes can play the third line, but I agree the Thrashers have enough of those types. I’d prefer him over the other two for sure, but not now.
Sather has become the village idiot. He has done less with more money than any GM in recent history. Dolan doesn’t have any pressure to win because the building remains at 95 percent capacity or better and the local/regional TV contract is huge because of the number of viewers in the NY/NJ Metro area. It’s mind boggling he keeps both Sather and Tortorella on board. They should have gotten Don Maloney when they had the chance and hired Davidson as president rather than let him walk to St. Louis. Hindsight!
Cornbread
April 21st, 2010
12:31 pm
Kovalchuk is gone and good riddance. He is the reason the Thrashers are not in the playoffs. The team’s Captain quit in December. I became a fan of Kovy’s when he was given the C. He changed, or so I thought, and matured into a leader. When he came back from his injury this season he was fired up and he fired up the team. Then the prima donna in him returned when he didn’t get his way with his contract, coach, team whatever…
I’m fortunate to play hockey with many hockey insiders, former pros, and junior players. Some played in the NHL and in the Summer I still lace ‘em up with current NHL, AHL, and ECHL players. Most of these guys are US and Canadian hard working charachter types and can’t stand Kovalchuk and those like him. They know he is uncoachable and a cancer in the locker room. A lot of talk was made that the Devils got the better deal in this trade. I don’t think so and nor do some of his fellow pros.
Smoothie
April 21st, 2010
12:45 pm
I guess my point is that most of those vet D-men are already overpaid. At some point that trend will have to stop or else everyone is going to be in cap hell. The problem with paying for guys based on past performance is they typically don’t maintain that level of performance beyond the age of 33 / 34. They might have alternating good years or one good year out of 3, but I don’t see paying Kubina $5 M or more unless you are going to designate him the #1 PP QB. Otherwise, you’re paying too much for a “shut-down” D-man. Let him walk then and get Seidenberg or someone of his ilk (Hamhuis?) to replace him. We’ve got too many puck movers and it seems a bit silly to pay Kubina $5 M or more when you’ve got other pressing needs as well. Offer him an extra year and see if he’ll bite on 4 yrs / $17 M or $17.5 M.
DWTOO
April 21st, 2010
12:45 pm
Why would Kubina take less money after the year he had? Highly doubtful. Give him the money he deserves. He’s easily the best we have and it would be detrimental to have him walk.
World Be Free
April 21st, 2010
12:49 pm
Red-JD and Don are too smart for Dolan. I could not believe Sather signed Redden to a long term big dollar deal. I think I’ll hold off talking more about who we need to get a coach and get closer to the draft.
Cornbread-I could not have said it better. Your team captain can never quit and Kovy did. Mr. First Class Organization is getting closer to his tee time. You can’t bring your former captain back.
No Patrick Marleau talks either please. He’s one of the reasons San Jose is fading, again.
Smoothie
April 21st, 2010
1:17 pm
DWTOO – by that logic, Toby should hold out until Duds agrees to renegotiate his contract for $6 M / year.
Guys, it’s very rare that a guy continues to excel or maintain his level of play (Rafalski, Lidstrom, Pronger are exceptions, not rules) after the age of 33 / 34. Looking at some of the names Red Light threw out, it is fairly common for their numbers to nose-dive after signing their big contract and turning 31. Now because Visnovsky, Souray, and half the Top 2 D-men in the league are overpaid, Kubina is probably “worth” $5 M / year. But if you’re a team that doesn’t plan on spending $56-57 M this season, can you really afford that again? I suppose if you “stand pat” and ony re-sign Kubina, Max, Arty and your RFA’s, then you can probably do all that and stay right around $52 – 53M. The bigger question is if this roster at the status quo less Colby Armstrong is capable of making the playoffs. I’m not so sure it is. Wouldn’t that $5 M + make more sense going to a veteran goalie who typically doesn’t tail off until 37 or 38 as opposed to an aging D-man?
Dwayne
April 21st, 2010
1:22 pm
WBF…I am all for interviewing 4 or 5 potential coaches, remember what happened when Georgia was looking for a DC??? They all stayed at the school they were coaching at and got big fat raises.
Rawhide
April 21st, 2010
1:29 pm
Hokie – Gotcha!
Red Light
April 21st, 2010
1:38 pm
I’m not advocating signing Kubina to a high-dollar, long-term deal either. I suggest a max of three years, hopefully two, to add stability that he brought. But, I’m not opposed to going in an entirely different direction either as Smoothie suggests. But, I do believe that even considering a $5 million plus contract for anyone, and I mean anyone, for this Thrashers team with a term longer than three years is counter-intuitive to the whole premise of getting younger, faster and becoming more team-oriented.
Now, if you’re going to provide me a Shea Weber type, then I’d re-think the term and the per-year money. I just think you’re going to see the Nashville code of a lot of guys making mid-level contracts rather than ponying up big dollars.
I think the real genius in today’s salary-cap wars are those GMs that can project and sign guys that can do similar things to those so-called proven NHL stars or contributors. That my friends is what we all must hope for from Dudley, rather than gnashing our teeth about those who got away, or left, or those we think can be signed.
Carry on…
kracker
April 21st, 2010
1:39 pm
Sign Moose as coach-player if the Thrash can afford to cary 3 tenders which perhaps they can do if Duds can make a cheap acquisition. Either a vet trying for a comeback (ala Legace) or a young goalie Dudley may have his eye on.
For the skaters, we have a few clues. Dudley saying he wants to resign our UFAs and RFAs is good but it is an expected statement. The FAs will certainly want to know who will be coaching the team, assuming they don’t already know (I’m referring to Torchetti here.) Dudley should know who is ready (or not) on the Wolves. He already said he wants to find an older mentor/leader and get some help at fwd, which could be the same player. In those 200 games he watched in the last year, he surely found some young talent he likes.
This off-season should be interesting and quite excited for Thrashers fans.
World Be Free
April 21st, 2010
1:45 pm
kracker-I agree, it will be exciting for once.
Dwayne-One of the real positives of this situation is that it seems this progression to GM was planned several monthes ago. I believe he wanted to give Anderson a chance, I think Dudley had his eye on a few potential candidates. 4-5 candidates is a possibility, but I think it will be more like 3 max. Torchetti, Ramsay, maybe Lever or another.
Smoothie
April 21st, 2010
1:52 pm
Red Light – agreed on what you wrote about the dilemma faced by a team that cannot afford to be cap-competitive in this era. Who knows? Perhaps we’ll end up with tons more dough if we can get a Russian oil magnate to invest in the ASG?
Anyway, I could live with Kubina at $5 M for two years, but no more! I love Pasha but we can’t afford more than 2 yrs unless it is a $5M, $5M, $3.5M declining amt deal that is so common these days.
lilibeter
April 21st, 2010
1:52 pm
Rawhide…kudos for managing to work a Hee-Haw reference into a Southern hockey team’s blog. Nice!
With regard to Kovalchuk, I personally prefer the identity the Thrashers were developing A.K. much more than the one we had prior to his departure. Hockey is a team sport, and for all that may have been good about Kovy, his presence consistently detracted from the Thrashers melding as a team. As a fan of the sport, I would rather watch a true TEAM full of pretty-good-to-very-good players than watch purported “team” that consists of a superstar and the servants who exist only to feed him.
Dwayne
April 21st, 2010
1:54 pm
WBF…..We have been used and abused for far too long. Hope Dudley can fix that.
Jeff97
April 21st, 2010
1:56 pm
Rawhide. – I really think the changes we make or the players we re-assign are going to depend a lot upon who we hire as coach. If we hire hire the ‘Hawks assistant Torchetti, like many think we will, I can see us trying to acquire a few of the ‘Hawks players as they have cap issues and will not be able to afford some of them this summer. not too mention the familiarity with the coach and GM. I personally think we let Army walk, i think he will command too much and did not give us enough last season. I am also in agreement that we go out and get a goalie like Nabokov from SJ for a few seasons and let him play next to Pavs. We also need to get a few playoff tested veterans on this team. We did not have enough leaders on this team and that needs to be addressed during the offseason. Any thoughts on getting Jerome Iginla? I heard he might get moved. He certainly would fille the void at center and captain. You could give up the 1st rounder we got from NJ and another player like Little.
R. Stroz
April 21st, 2010
2:25 pm
Thanks J.B.
For the first time in my life, I’m pulling for the Flyers. Then again, how could anyone cheer for a bunch of Devils if you’re Baptist.
Hokey Clisters
April 21st, 2010
2:28 pm
Mr. Rawhides, you have besmurched the proud folks of Hall county. While I am not a Hallamite myself, my friend Elrod is from Hall county. Elrod is quite stupified by your brazen and outlandish remarks.
Hall county has many things to be proud of….many folks do not know that Hall county is famous. Remember the old line “Don’t count your chickens till they hatch?” Well our fine friends in Hall county have a more famous saying: “Don’t count your chickens – or you’ll never stop counting.”
Rawhide
April 21st, 2010
2:29 pm
Any thoughts on getting Jerome Iginla? I heard he might get moved. He certainly would fille the void at center and captain. You could give up the 1st rounder we got from NJ and another player like Little.
Jeff97 - Yeah…I’d do that. Consider JI is a known commodity and has 3 more years left on a contract that pays $7-mil per. Little was streaky last season and it might take … oh…A Million-five to two mil to re-sign here. If one were to make that deal, then really it’s only costing us $5 – 5.5 million more than we would otherwie be spending. Plus, like I said, Iginla’s a proven player. Who knows what might happen with that 1st rounder gained from NJ…and how long it might take to get him ready for NHL action.
Hall county has many things to be proud of….many folks do not know that Hall county is famous. Remember the old line “Don’t count your chickens till they hatch?” Well our fine friends in Hall county have a more famous saying: “Don’t count your chickens – or you’ll never stop counting.”
Hokey Clisters – I lived in Gwinnett County growing up…we used to hate it when the wind blew from the Northeast given all those chicken coups up there!
Ricky Barnes
April 21st, 2010
2:29 pm
What in tarnation is all ‘dis here bad talk ’bout Hall countay!
World Be Free
April 21st, 2010
2:55 pm
Remember Dwayne- “In Dudley We Trust”
J.B.
April 21st, 2010
2:56 pm
does iggy have a dreaded ntc?
Trixie (Rawhide's Secretary)
April 21st, 2010
3:03 pm
100th!! – giggle