Thrashers playoff hopes on life support after overtime loss in Pittsburgh

If the Thrashers slim playoff hopes were in serious condition coming into the game in Pittsburgh Saturday afternoon…they are now on life support after blowing a lead late in the third and then losing 4-3 to the Penguins in overtime.

The Thrashers had lead 3-2 late in the game and help 1-goal leads three times in the game…1-0 , 2-1 and 3-2.

 With the score 3-2, Jimmy Slater was whistled for a holding call with 2:27 left and the Penguins capitalized on Sergei Gonchar’s power play goal with just 1:14 left before the period ended. The Thrashers then watched the much-needed second point skate away with the Penguins as Jordan Leopold scored 2:50 into the extra time…Sidney Crosby set up the goal with his 3rd assists on the day.

Maxim Afinogenov opened the scoring with 48 second remaining in the first period. It was his 24th of the year, setting a new career mark for goals scored. That’s right…24 goals from a player so “hurting” to sign with a team last summer that he came here for a measly $800,000.

Nicely done, Max!

After Evgeni Malkin tied the score at the 12:05 mark of the second, Tim Stapleton scored his second goal for the Thrashers…just two days after scoring his first. Pittsburgh struck again early in the third on Tyler Kennedy’s 12th of the season, but Rich Peverley put Atlanta up 3-2 just 1:04 later. It was number 22 for the Pevs Dispenser.

Johan Hedberg stopped 31 of the 35 shots he faced and his record is now 10-15-6 on the season.

Two of the Penguins goals came with a Thrasher sitting in the sin-bin, snapping Atlanta’s steak of nine games without surrendering a power play goal…they were 23 for 23 during those games and coming into today’s game had killed off 25 straight since last allowing a power play goal in the first period of their 4-3 win over Buffalo back on March 16.

Going into the today’s game, the Pens and Devils were ties for the Atlantic Division lead with identical 4-26-7 records. The Devils will play tonight against the Hurricanes in an attempt to equal Pittsburgh’s result this afternoon and remain deadlocked with the Pens. The two will not play each other in the remaining four games left on the schedule.

With the consolation overtime loser point, the Thrashers now have 81 for the season. This means the most they can amass is 87…and that’s only if they win all three of the remaining games on the schedule starting Tuesday when the New Jersey Devils and Ilya Kovalchuk come to town. But by that time, it could be all but over for the Thrashers ever-fading playoff aspirations.

The Canadiens have 84 going into tonight’s game against the Sabres and win there would give them 86. They will then travel to Long Island on Tuesday. Three points earned in those two games would mathematically eliminate the Thrashers from being able to finish as high as 6th in the conference.

Boston has 82 points with two games before Tuesday night…Toronto tonight and Washington on Monday. And the Flyers go into tomorrow afternoon’s game with the Red Wings also with 82 points…they will play in Toronto on Tuesday evening.

And then the Rangers will play in Florida tonight. New York will look to take over sole possession of ninth place with a win against the Panthers…moving the Thrashers to tenth in the Eastern Conference.

Going into tonight’s action…Montreal and Philly have four more games while Boston and the Rangers have five. Atlanta has three.

So…the Thrashers aren’t officially “dead” yet…but they are on life support, in serious need of help, the family has been called to the room, a priest has been called and the bugler stands by to play taps.

172 comments Add your comment

Missing Kovy!

April 3rd, 2010
5:04 pm

First! And only?

jimbo

April 3rd, 2010
5:05 pm

How many times does Jimmy “Bonehead” Slater have to take a penalty in the offensive zone in the last five minutes before he gets to sit near the end of a game? The guy may hustle, but he has no hands around the net and takes the dumbest of penalties. Too bad, another good effort wasted.

LAC

April 3rd, 2010
5:06 pm

I agree, slater does NOT need to return next season, he simply is NOT good enough to play here.

Open the spot for someone who will win and score !! No More slater PLEASE !

stendek

April 3rd, 2010
5:10 pm

Playoffs? I love ya Rawhide but playoffs? Playoffs my backside! These quitters do not have any intentions of reaching the playoffs. Is that not obvious to everyone? Dam sure is to me. Forgive carryover but…Used to be apathetic to Trashers. Now I hate them. Every dam one of them except Johan Lehtonen. Moose is moving closer to my hate list after that obvious giveup job in Pittsburgh. The Tennessee Tuxedos were coasting! They were prime to be had. Trashers said no thanks! Any playoff appearances will cause havoc with our golf tee times. So they went bellyup with yet another totally heartless exhibition! Moose let one in shot from Scranton. Even Kari Lehtonen never did that! Painfully evident team wanted to lose. IF THEY CLAIM OTHERWISE THEY ARE DAM LIARS! Allow me to play Devil’s Adocate. I will fake being an apologist! Here goes. Team played well. Yawn. Led most of way. Ho hum. Had Stanley Cup defenders on ropes. Uh huh. Never gave up. Lie. Played with intensity. Lie. Played tough. Lie. Performed well on hostile ice. Zzzzzz. Got some terrible calls. Boo hoo. Team collected a point. Jump into Hell with that meaningless pity point! Now on to more important stuff. Trasher goaltender allowed three marshmallow goals. Three! A KL effort if ever I witnessed one. A high school netminder would have stopped those three goals. No gripe on first power play tally. Hope somebody puts that SOB Malkin in hospital! ASAP. To all apologists. I was going to say go to Hell but I have a better solution. When the Trashers pack up for their journey to Hamilton then pack up and join them. Atlanta does not need the Trashers nor its apologist fans! I am dam tired of these gutless quitters representing my state. To Hell with all of them! ++STENDEK++ Happy Easter to Rawhide, Chris, Moose and all fellow fans who know Trashers are uncaring oxygen wastes who quit on fans months ago!

The Real Thrash

April 3rd, 2010
5:10 pm

Missy Kovy, a Coach, a GM, an Owner.
Shall I go on?

Missing Kovy!

April 3rd, 2010
5:12 pm

Hard not to wonder how if Kovy would have made a HUGE diff in all these one goal games like today’s 4-3, the 2-1 against Toronto and the 2-1 loss against Washington.

We lost our leader and a lot of the energy when he left. http://sportsclimax.com/nhl/kovalchuk-showing-great-leadership-in-atlanta/

Mathematically looking grim but it’s sports and you never know but as you say Bill, it’s on life support.

urm...

April 3rd, 2010
5:17 pm

Hope I can get the ASG to buy me a new remote control.

Charter remote RIP 4/3/2010 we hardly knew you.

Flagstaff

April 3rd, 2010
5:18 pm

It seems the second you think that, maybe, they can do it, they crap out and make you sorry for believing in them.

Brendan

April 3rd, 2010
5:20 pm

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. They’re Pittsburgh. We’re Atlanta. They’re the defending Stanley Cup Champions. We’re the defending posterchild for no accountability, inaction, and procrastination.

Barry

April 3rd, 2010
5:22 pm

Ya Thrashers could have won this game but can’t be leaving Gonchard or whatever his name was wide open to blast a slap shot from the point. Also the refs must have had money riding on this game. Pens got away with 2 slashes, two trips includling a slew foot on Bogosian, then another high stick whack on the back of Bogosian’s head and no fracking calls that I saw. What total and utter bulls**t! I was proud of the boys for hanging tough and almost beating the Stanley Cup Champs on their own ice but the ice was definately tilted towards the Penguins as the officiating again continues to be horrible and inconsistent this year.

Flagstaff

April 3rd, 2010
5:27 pm

And, you know what else? I bet Waddell’s contract will be renewed this summer. This sh!t is going to be great in the eyes of the ASG. Why? Because they don’t care, and they never will. Bettman needs to step in. NOW.

I generally refrain from posting negative comments, but this game just tears it.

Rawhide

April 3rd, 2010
5:28 pm

I just thought of something….a lot of people around here were saying last week that the Thrashers would need yo go 3-1-1 in order to have a chance.

Well…they have the “one and one” out of the way. Now they need to work on the three wins part.

Savannah Blueland Fan

April 3rd, 2010
5:34 pm

Someone PLEASE tell that fat lady to put a cork in it! Her song has become permanently stuck in my head.

Brendan

April 3rd, 2010
5:34 pm

Here’s the boxscore. http://www.nhl.com/ice/boxscore.htm?id=2009021164

Notice Antropov’s 43rd assist and Enstrom’s 44th assist. Evander Kane had a helper, too.

Mr. Heat Miser

April 3rd, 2010
5:38 pm

A correction Rawhide from your first paragraph. The Thrashers did not blow the lead. The game was handed to the Pens on a silver platter courtesy of Marc Joannette, Tom Kowal, Derek Amell, and David Brisebois. This was the poorest excuse of officiating I have seen in my entire life. Crosby slewfoots Bogosian while the ref is LOOKING STRAIGHT AT HIM and no call. It’s hard enough to win but jebus when you have to skate 5 guys against 9? I guess again Crosby owes that official a favor…….

Jeff

April 3rd, 2010
5:39 pm

Horrible..Horrible…Horrible penalty on Slater. What could he have been thinking?? I like his game the first 55 mintues of play, but sit him until he stops playing like he is in juniors at crunch time. What a back breaker….THEY HAD THE GAME IN HAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

five_hole

April 3rd, 2010
5:39 pm

I’m baaaa-aaackkk! And then I’m leaving again tomorrow. So, for what it’s worth:

Geez, I’ve been gone for a few weeks and look at the changes in the lineup:

Chelios is so old – his first game was broadcast in Morse code!

Chelios is so old – he wasn’t a democrat or republican; he was a whig! (look up the whig party); you’ll laugh later.

This kid Stapleton is so young – his mother is waiting in the stands with fruit cups and juice boxes for the rest of the team. Seriously, have you seen him? This kid can’t start a playoff beard until he hits puberty!

Thanks folks; be sure and tip your waitresses.

So much for standup. I gotta say that was a stupid penalty for Slater to take with 2 1/2 minutes to go in the game. There was absolutely no reason he had to do that. The only reason we had a chance in this game was the Moose. He wasn’t just standing on his head; he was standing on his head on top of another guy that was standing up. We were really missing Kubina (what happened to him, anyway?).
Here’s my shoutout to Bryan Little; hope you’re not hurt as badly as it looked from TV. You had a really tough second season; essentially playing on a line by yourself. Take it easy & rehab in the offseason and hopefully they’ll get you real linemates for next year.

Rawhide

April 3rd, 2010
5:40 pm

Mr. Heat Miser – Thanks for the clarification. I’m down in Florida and I was listening via XM Radio. It was the Pittsburgh feed. I guess the announcers failed to mention that.

five_hole – LOL!!! Nice stand up act.

Somaatl95

April 3rd, 2010
5:47 pm

Penguins had TOO MANY MEN ON THE ICE! 4 as a matter of fact. Most of us fans will bitch and complain but the refs weren’t calling anything against the “Darlings” of the NHL.
Missed a puck that hit netting.
Missed several slashes.
Missed the 2 penguins double teaming a thrasher already down on the ice during the last brawl.
If the game had BEEN FAIR and the “darlings” had been correctly penalized the outcome would have been different!

five_hole

April 3rd, 2010
5:48 pm

You know, I hate to blame the refs. Yes, Mr. Heat Miser You are absolutely correct re; Cindy Crosby on Bogosian. There was at least 1 other penalty they could have called on him. What I thought was eggregious was the scrum, where the only penalty went to Thorburn? Usually it takes 2 to tango. However ultimately, we didn’t score enough and we allowed them to score too much. Bottom line.

hoosier_hoser

April 3rd, 2010
5:49 pm

MM and DE praised the play of the Thrashers, as do others on this board. I saw a different match.

—–From the opening face-off, Pittsburgh had more jump. They were faster to the puck, stronger on the puck and won battles for the puck. Without doing the measurement, I would bet Pittsburgh won time of possession 2:1.
—–The Pens had time and space. The Thrashers had precious little of either.
—–The Pens made tape to tape passes. The Thrashers chipped the puck and hoped someone got there.
—–Pittsburgh valued puck possession. When they won the puck, they made accurate passes to advance the puck and attempt to score. When the Thrashers won the puck, they chipped it out and tried to regroup to defend the next rush. The Thrashers will not be a Stanley Cup player until they value puck possession.
—–Chipping the puck out announces to the other team that the Thrashers have abandoned half their offense and are “on the ropes” on defense. Why provide the opposition with this motivation?
—–Malkin’s goal was the direct result of a Thrashers’ screw up. Enstrom and the penalty killer (maybe Peverly) both advanced the Pens wing. The pass went to the other wing and then back to Malkin, where Enstrom was supposed to be. I was really surprised DE didn’t call out Enstrom on the air.
—–I watched the Slater penalty multiple times on my DVR. He clearly wrapped his arm around the defender, pushed the defender outside and simultaneously pushed himself to the inside position. If the roles were reversed, I would expect the penalty to be called for the Thrashers. As a Slater fan I say Slater made a really boneheaded choice. The only time this play is not a penalty is back in the swallow the whistle in the third period era.
—–I watched the winning goal multiple times on my DVR. It hit off the heel of Moose’s stick and went through the 5 hole. The only explanation I can offer is that Moose was not expecting a shot. He didn’t close his pads until after the puck was in the net.

In watching a lot of sports over a lot of years, I’ve formed the tentative conclusion that this kind of stuff happens when your not as good as the other team and when the other team can pressure you and you cannot pressure them. Bad calls, bad plays and hockey luck get magnified.

All this being said, the Thrashers did well to be up 3-2 with 3 minutes left. Perhaps the played as well as they can play against a superior team.

Somaatl95

April 3rd, 2010
5:50 pm

So Heat Miser and I are talking about this on Facebook earlier and he beats me to posting it here! Way to go, sir!

Brendan

April 3rd, 2010
5:53 pm

“Guess the Points Contest Update.” Okay, here are the current standings in the NHL. http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?type=con#&navid=nav-stn-conf. With only three games left, at 81-points, the Thrashers will finish the year somewhere between 81 and 87-points. So, let’s see which posters just got eliminated, and who are still alive.

Eliminated: These would be the folks with 88 or more points as their guess. Get The Puck Out, Darren, GaVaHokie, Rawhide, five_hole, viking, Hip Czech, lee, Andrew, Tony C., Toby, Statebird, JLH, Alan R., Thrasher Jim, Scotty, Hockey Biltong, mutton, ben, DWTOO, Smitty, Darkhorse, WBF, Sharon, Putting on the Foil, Thrashers27, FIF, thebigharybeast, dwayne, Dandylions, h, J.B., Mehoff, Jameson, rightshot, Adam, Will L., R.Stroz, Buzilla in CT.

Also eliminated as posters who guessed 80 or fewer points: LAC, Frosty The Snowman, Ex-STH, 12345,

Still alive, in points order, are:

81: Bob, now known as “Joe Friday.”
82: Red Light and Russ
83: Curly, Pam on Weck,
84: BaldheadedThrasher Fan, polskidawg
85: Spud Webb, Brendan
86: Smoothie, HookyBob, Glovesave29
87: 3stripes, Thrashy Thrashy, Denny, Tom (Capital T)

And that’s it. In future blogs, we’ll break down the tie-breakers, such as divisional rank, and Conference rank. And it goes in that order. For example, Tom has 87-points, 3rd in Southeast Division, 9th in Conference, while Denny has 87-points, 3rd in Southeast Division, 10th in Conference, etc. Denny and Thrashy Thrashy have identical picks, but … Denny specified a final standing record of 40-35-7.

Glovesave29 was a points-winner last year. Though Don was the tie-breaker, technically. But Glovesave can claim to have successfully predicted the Thrashers points in back-to-back seasons, if the Thrashers finish with 86-points. Glovesave29 has 86-points, 3rd in SE division, and 9th in the Conference, whereas HookyBob has 86-points, 4th in SE division, 13th in Conference. And Smothie has 86-points, 4th in SE division, and 11th in Conference.

It’s gonna be a fun finish to the “AJC points contest.”

Rawhide

April 3rd, 2010
5:55 pm

Brendan - Yup…I’m out officially with today’s loss.

Dammit!

five_hole

April 3rd, 2010
5:58 pm

Wait; I’ve got more:

Chelios is so old – he didn’t realize he was being called up by the Thrashers; he thought Teddy Roosevelt wanted him to join the Rough Riders!

Chelios just set an NHL record. He’s the 1st player to take to the ice wearing Depends!

Rawhide Please don’t tell Chelios where I live!

Red Light

April 3rd, 2010
5:59 pm

LAC says about Slater: “He simply is NOT good enough to play here.”

Red Light says to LAC: “Perhaps you are confusing the Thrashers with one of the 14 teams that have an NHL caliber roster? Slater can play here and for at least for 15 other teams!”

It was a stupid penalty 120 feet from his own goal, but that’s expected from one of Waddell’s first-round picks.

Brendan

April 3rd, 2010
5:59 pm

Well, it was still a good guess, Rawhide. :)

Red Light

April 3rd, 2010
6:00 pm

Welcome back five_hole. Interesting you show up after Moose lets one go though his legs. Coincidence?

Rightshot

April 3rd, 2010
6:02 pm

A general apathy has come over me. Despite the “good” play of the Thrashers. Unfortunately, I will once again turn to excitement when they hit the ice next Tuesday.

I need help.

Brendan

April 3rd, 2010
6:02 pm

Slater and Bill Guerin? Couldn’t Guerin technically be Slater’s Dad?

five_hole

April 3rd, 2010
6:17 pm

LOL Red Light

Playoffs? You kidding me? Playoffs!?

April 3rd, 2010
6:22 pm

March 6 – March 14

6 games, 6 losses. If they had cared about making the playoffs and won about half of those they’d be sitting in a totally different spot then they are now. You got to want to win and knowing that there’s only a month to go in the season you go out and lose 6 in a row … that’s not showing you want to win.

LAC

April 3rd, 2010
6:37 pm

Interesting bit I was sent by a friend in Kansas City… NHL 21, the group there said in an interview
and showed highlights of the Thrashers, there is a 75% chance the team will be SOLD and moved to KC for next season. In the interview on KSHB 41 in KC, the NHL 21 spokesperson said the Thrashers ARE FOR SALE. He made no other claims, except that the Missouri Mavericks,
who play in Independence, at the Independence Events Center, sold out 75% of their games this season in a building with 7,500 seating…. And this is an NHL city without an NHL team…
Adding he hopes Atlanta moves to The Sprint center for 2010-2011 play.

Are the two games next week THE FINAL ones for NHL hockey in Atlanta ? I believe it to be.

As we ALL know, Atlanta STUPID Group and liar waddell have done everything they could to DESTROY hockey here and have done it. At the very least, it will mean THE END for waddell !

Another sad ending to NHL hockey here, but to hear a spokesperson claim the team IS FOR Sale…
Really makes you wonder… If so The NHL will NEVER return to Atlanta… We Shall See !

Lastly red light, slater is not a NHL player, so send him packing !

Matt

April 3rd, 2010
6:37 pm

Snatching DEFEAT from the jaws of victory, AGAIN!! And, WTH Moose? How on earth do you let the OT goal in?? We are cursed.

hawks

April 3rd, 2010
6:42 pm

THE MOOSE SUCKS!!!! ANY HIGH SCHOOL PLAYER COULD HAVE STOPPED THOSE LAST 2 GOALS…..FOR REAL COME ON!!! THE MOOSE CANT HANDLE PRESSURE PERIOD NUF SAID!!

Brendan

April 3rd, 2010
6:42 pm

Matt, the time to address goaltending was the trade deadline, when Moose had his highest value that he’d ever, ever have again in his career.

R. Stroz

April 3rd, 2010
7:04 pm

Although the majority of you will disagree with me, I’d be willing to bet that the Lehtonen trade over the next five seasons will turn out looking dumber than the Coburn for Zhitnik trade.

Just wait.

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April 3rd, 2010
9:31 pm

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HookyBob

April 3rd, 2010
9:47 pm

I bet the flight home from Pittsburgh was a long one for Jimmy. Maybe the summer will be a long too. The boys is blue played well and hung there against a superior team. So close,…such a disapointment.

Tonight Slates is the chump but when you look back over the season there are plenty of 1 goal losses,….any 2 of which, (if won) would have in a play-off slot. Right now all they do is give us more chumps.

Stroz, I’m in agreement with you in that goaltending could be a real problem for us going forward.

Night games are coming in. Rangers, Boston & Canadians all get 2 points each.

sisu

April 3rd, 2010
10:04 pm

what is it with the Pens wanting to double team Thrashers??? Cheli is engaged with one guy and another jumps him (he was tangling with Malkin)

The difference? Pens won the cup last year and Thrashers have been in the playoffs once

I was positive that Philly would choke, but I never considered the Rags leap frogging us.

sisu

April 3rd, 2010
10:05 pm

R. Stroz, you are so right! I could not believe that after all this time Kari was not even given an opportunity over a career back up

sisu

April 3rd, 2010
10:08 pm

LAC, only 7500 fans???? Really, that is sad…KC can barely hold on to an NFL team, why in the world would NHL go there??? Just as crazy as them going to Winnipeg….

Get The Puck Out

April 3rd, 2010
10:13 pm

THANK YOU SIR, MAY I LOSE ANOTHER–THANK YOU SIR, MAY I LOSE ANOTHER– THANK YOU SIR, MAY I LOSE ANOTHER !!!!!

Red Light

April 3rd, 2010
10:32 pm

A Dose of Standings Realism
6. Montreal 86 points, 39 wins • 3 games left
7. Boston 84 points, 36 wins • 4 games left
8. Philly 82 points, 38 wins • 4 games left
9. Rangers 82 points, 36 wins • 4 games left

Just checked prices for first round tickets in Nashville. $78 club level behind the goal. $46 upper level behind the goal. Plenty available. I just bought six for Game 6!
10. Thrashers 81 points, 34 wins • 3 games left

Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. Clock counts down on Anderson and Waddell.

Red Light

April 3rd, 2010
10:33 pm

Oops. Sorry the list was out of order. Unintentional.

Tony C.

April 3rd, 2010
10:38 pm

Lehtonen had to be traded-He’d lost the confidence of the room as well as having ZERO confidence that the guys in blue were going to do anything helpful to him stopping the puck. Can’t blame either party; by all accounts KL was having more fun than he was supposed to-I can’t blame him-if you are seeing upwards of 35 SOG every game, and it’s that way for 2.5 years (with no end in sight)- ESPECIALLY if you look around and see that there’s no accountability demanded of anyone except you (yeah, I love Bob, but he clearly dicked KL’s head up)…why not treat it like a joke? Why bust your hump over the summer if you’re going to be playing behind pylons and over-eager ALWAYS out-of-position defenders and your wingers think “backchecking” is some weird boardgame.???…

Conversely, If you see some kid who feels he’s entitled to do whatever he wants because he was a high-draft pick, shows up at the 1st playoff game in team history only to find that he and that j@(k-off Sutton went out drinking to celebrate and dyed their hair like girls? Always showing up out of shape and also isn’t shy about showing you up on national television when you just got beat by A-O on a 2-on-1…(while your forward is doing figure-8’s at the redline) Who wants to give a spoiled ass like that your maximum effort??

Again, we’re still seeing the effects of this organization having no consistent identity for 7 of it’s 1st 10 years of operation….

Q: What is “Thrashers’ Hockey”?

I feel like we’ve seen flashes of a legitimate answer to that question. Never anything concrete or consistent.

I’ve been asking question since the lockout-still have no idea. Near as I can tell it’s playing really well in October, coming down to earth in Nov-Dec. Then completely sh!t the bed on the Canadian “Homecoming” road trip-or any road tip in Jan-Feb will do if it’s an Olympic year… Culminating in a heartbreakingly close collapse come April.

Hanson Brothers

April 3rd, 2010
10:39 pm

Am I the only one wondering why Moose was in goal tonight? Pavs has played a few strong games in a row giving up 2 goals or less, and after the last game Anderson said he would stay with him as long as he is hot.

Tony C.

April 3rd, 2010
10:43 pm

I will say that the officiating this afternoon leaves a lot to be desired, however-if some good ol’ boy from Stone Mountain has picked up on the fact that Crosby enjoy enjoys the same laissez-faire approach from officials that Michael Jordan did at the apogee and end of his career, I’d hope that professional hockey-types would have picked up on that too.

Refs didn’t forget to mark Gonchar, and the linesmen didn’t kick a rebound out to a waiting Cooke. They did do a bad job though.

Rawhide

April 3rd, 2010
10:57 pm

For those of you still clinging on to some hope the Thrashers can still pull this playoff thingy out of their butts…and really, why are you doing this to yourself…let me read the patient’s chart for you in order to show you the dire situation.

In order for the Thrashers to make the playoffs they have to win all three games….yeah, I know…and then hope one of the following happens:

1. Montreal earns no more than 1 point in their last three games.

2. Boston earns no more than 2 more points in their last four games.

3. The Rangers and Flyers earn no more than 4 points in their last four games.

Problem with scenario number 3…the Rangers and Flyers play each other twice to end the season next weekend.

Somebody call Don Waddell…the Thrashers are about to “flat-line” and he needs to sign the consent form to pull the plug.

Brendan

April 3rd, 2010
11:13 pm

After the Olympic break, Smoothie asked me, “beeeeing honest” who I saw at #8. I offered that #6 would be Philly, #7 would be Boston, and #8 would the NY Rangers. And that Montreal would finish 9th and Atlanta 10th. Well, swap Philly with Montreal, and I woulda nailed it.

When Bob Gainey was “quired,” (quit/fired) I figured the Habs were through. Credit them with a tremendous effort, post Olympic break. When Marc Savard went down, and Tim Thomas faltered, Tuukka Rask stepped up in an extraordinary measure to keep Boston in the playoff field. Philly, on the hand, as Red Light points out, made a Coaching change to LaViolette and failed to properly address goaltending at the trade deadline. For this, GM Holmgren must take some heat. I don’t think he’ll get fired. But I don’t really know. In Philly, they have this quaint little thing called “accountability.” They also have ‘less than polite’ fans who will go to games to chant “Fire (supply name here)!,” unlike in Atlanta. Where we sit like tennis fans, wearing white gloves, politely clapping for nice plays. The only thing missing from the Atlanta hockey set are doilies.

Those who do attend games … must get the chant going. Those who do have season tickets … must tell their reps, “I’m going to wait to see if you fire Waddell. If you do, I’ll renew. If you don’t, I won’t.”

Kinda catchy!! “If you do, I’ll renew. If you don’t, I won’t.”

Brendan

April 3rd, 2010
11:27 pm

R.Stroz, I can agree with you on the Lehtonen trade to an extent. I’ll agree that … Atlanta took all the risk with Lehtonen, and didn’t get the reward. For that, they look “dumb.” If Lehtonen flourishes elsewhere, be that in Dallas or anywhere else, they can thank the Atlanta Thrashers for years in Chicago (AHL) and NHL getting him ready for THEIR club. But, here’s where I disagree with you on the “Coburn for Zhitnik” front. Coburn was not a certified “bust.” Coburn played 5-6 minutes a game. Coburn was never given a proper opportunity here. The same cannot be said of Lehtonen. Lehtonen was given “every opportunity” here. Kari kept having injury issues. Kari kept having “mental meltdowns.” Coburn, at times, looked “lost.” For sure. But he wasn’t developed in Atlanta’s system. I don’t even think Coburn knew what Atlanta’s system was. In the case of the Coburn for Zhitnik trade, the goal was shortterm gain to make the playoffs. It did work on that front. Zhitnik stabilized the power play unit. He logged the top minutes. Etc. Now, a 35-year old for a 22-year old, on paper, is a pretty bad move. I forget what he got for Lehtonen. I think it was some defenseman prospect. If that blueliner turns into something decent, then the Kari trade made some sense. I don’t have a problem with Kari being traded. I have a problem with the decision to make Moose, a 37-year old career backup, the #1 goalie, instead of moving him for whatever the market would bear, plus picking up Roloson or Biron. Bygones.

R.Stroz, if Kari flourishes elsewhere … it will make Atlanta look rather foolish. Personally, I think the Lehtonen trade was made in anger. Waddell hung his hat on this kid. And he laid an egg, time and time again. Game Three of the NY Rangers vs. the Thrashers saw Kari lose, 7-0. For all I know, Waddell attempted to trade Kari right then, finding no suitors. Shrugs. I don’t know.

LAC

April 3rd, 2010
11:56 pm

Well sisu… You know NOTHING about what is going on in KC.

The Independence Arena, a NEW facility, SEATS, now get this sisu, The arena SEATS 7,500.

That is THE total seating of the arena for hockey… They DO NOT play in the Sprint Center and they are in the Low Central Hockey League.

So know what YOU are talking about sisu, you looked really really STUPID on my first comment !

I bet they move to KC….

Brendan

April 3rd, 2010
11:58 pm

I’ve always said there are certain teams we must compare ourselves with. Columbus, Phoenix, Buffalo, Nashville, Los Angeles, Carolina, Tampa Bay, etc. Columbus took a big step backwards this year. Phoenix came outta nowhere. Buffalo got back into the playoffs. L.A.’s longterm (8-year plan) will result in playoffs this year, more than likely. Carolina … believe it or not, can still catch Atlanta. But this is an injury-plagued year. We saw what the ‘Canes could do, when healthy. Florida missed the playoffs again, and could, theoretically, finish 15th in the East. And finally, I want to discuss Tampa Bay.

At #15 is Toronto. But it very well could be Tampa Bay who finished last in the East. Toronto and Carolina continue to play well. The NY Islanders keep winning. So, what does this say about the Bolts? Stop. In 2008, TB picked 1st overall. They took Stamkos. Atlanta picked 3rd overall. We picked Bogosian. In 2009, Tampa Bay picked 2nd overall. They picked Viktor Hedman. Atlanta picked 4th overall, we took Evander Kane.

Atlanta is 10th. Tampa Bay is 14th. Who is winning? Actually, we are. Believe it or not. If Tampa Bay gets back into the lottery draft, they could add another significant piece.

LAC

April 3rd, 2010
11:59 pm

Oh sisu, They had 25 sellouts out of like 35 games… Not bad I’d say !!!!

There has never been anything about the Chief’s moving… What gave YOU that CRAZY notion ?!!!!

John A.

April 4th, 2010
12:14 am

“I offered that #6 would be Philly, #7 would be Boston, and #8 would the NY Rangers. And that Montreal would finish 9th and Atlanta 10th. Well, swap Philly with Montreal, and I woulda nailed it.”

So Brendan, when did the season end? Aren’t you congratulating yourself for your semi-prowess a little prematurely?

stendek or stendec or stenDICK or however you’re spelling it today: In a world as complicated and unforgiving as the one we find ourselves in today, I find it hard, even impossible, to believe that nobody has ever told you to go fyourself or just flat-out Steven Seagal punched you right square between the eyes. You have that unique quality about you.

R. Stroz

April 4th, 2010
12:20 am

Brendan – My points on the Lehtonen trade being a potentialy “bigger brainfart” than the Coburn trade are as follows:

1) Kari has the talent to be a star in the NHL whereas Coburn, at best, will be a better than average, not a great, defensemen.

2) Kari may have finally overcome his physical woes with his back that would allow him to train properly.

3) Kari never had a real goalie coach. If you’re going to draft a young goalie based on talent, you better have the staff to develop the rest of his game.

4) Goalies are notorious for being “late bloomers.”

5) If Kari started playing well after adjusting his timing due to his injury time off, he could “win the team’s confidence in him.” This would be analogous to winning back fans by winning games.

6) I just think that given the amount of time the Thrashers had put into developing Kari, the Thrashers would have been better off using their remaining year of RFA status to see if he panned out once and for all.

7) Now, we are back to square one, developing a young goalie, Pavelec, without a real goalie coach and using a good career back up goalie as our number one goalie. At the end of the day, I don’t see how the goalie situation has been improved. In fact, it just seems like deja vu all over again.

What’s the definition of insanity again?

thrasherdawg

April 4th, 2010
1:00 am

The NHL has to do something about the officiating. They make a call on Slater with 2:27 to go, in a 1 goal game. The play was harmless…I actually thought they were calling interference on Pittsburg. As a fan, that spends alot of money on tickets every year, it is unacceptable that a referee can dictate the outcome of a game and in this situation maybe a season.

Crosby slew footed Bogs…nothing…moments later Bogs gets a penality for interference with the puck at his feet. Are you kidding me?

An example: 10 seconds after regulation in the Boston / Toronto game a Boston player flat out punches a Toronto player (in the face) with the referee stading two feet away, no call. The Boston annoucer politely states that there is no way a referee would give a penality, with the game going into overtime and with play-off implications. Slater is chancing a harmless loose puck and gets called for a penality.

And I thought the NHL wanted to keep teams in the southern market.

Can you imagine if we somehow tied with the Rangers or Philly for 8th and lose the tiebreaker? We would not be in the playoffs all because of a refs call.

Brendan

April 4th, 2010
1:01 am

John A., you got me. I didn’t add, “so far.” Or “as of now.” And, of course, the NY Rangers aren’t in yet. :oops:

Brendan

April 4th, 2010
1:28 am

Well, those are good points, R.Stroz. My favorite being #6. My argument for keeping Kari was that he still had value as a backup (playing 20-25 games or so). I cannot imagine that Hedberg is really going to be back next year. And, might I add, that I’m saying that as a fan of his. I like Hedberg. He’s one of my all-time favorite Thrashers. If we could keep 3 goalies again next year, thennnn yesssss, I’d like to keep him. But I saw Lehtonen-Pavelec as the “1-2″ punch, at least based on our draft history.

But, I must add that, I was fine with the Kari trade, provisionally. And the provision was … that we got an established #1 goalie in here. At a bare bones minimum for the playoff push. But we didn’t do that. I thought we would. Instead, we “rented” Moose.

On the Coburn front, I think he logs something like 20-22 minutes a game for Philly. He might be far from the league’s premier defensemen, but he certainly carries his weight. I think. But we had no idea Coburn was capable of that, when we traded him for Zhitnik. Some said, “He’s already a bust. Nice salvage job.” That wasn’t my view. I know that defensemen, like goaltenders, take a little longer to develop. I was surprised that we quit on the kid so soon.

And speaking of “dejavu all over again,” it brings me back to the point I harp on all the time. Why … did we draft … a goalie … with pick #2?? Knowing he’d take 5 years to develop?? It just didn’t add up. And the only explanation I can fathom … is that Waddell went to ownership asking to claim Cujo off waivers, when Hasek UN-retired in Detroit. Or to go after Arturs Irbe, or Nabakov, or Belfour, or Khabibulin out on the free agent market. But that ownership said, “No Don!! You want a goalie?? Go draft one!!” Well, if that were really the case, I can see Waddell’s hands being tied. But I don’t rightly know what the truth was. I suspect it was just the usual Waddell ineptness on display.

Remember, R.Stroz, I was “late” to the party … realizing that Don Waddell was not living up to his hype. I suspected something was wrong when Audette, Brunette, and Staios left. But I chalked it up, at the time, to the team trying to save its money for when Heatley and Kovalchuk were coming into their SuperStar status years. But even so, the Thrashers were playing a game of “zero sum” economics. What does that mean? It means … they’d lose a piece … to attempt to replace it. Well, even if you do accomplish that, you’re right back to where you started. When, I thought, the goal was to BUILD on the existing roster. In other words, we KEEP Audette, Brunette, Staios, Ferraro, Buzek, while adding Ilya Nikulin, Ilya Kovalchuk, Dany Heatley, Marc Savard, Nic Havelid, Libor Ustrunul, Michael Garnett, etc.

But all the talk was … as fueled by John Kincade at the time, “Atlanta’s got the best Under 25 talent in the NHL, per the Hockey News.” Callers to 680TheFan tried to point out to the host, “They just mean Heatley, Kovalchuk, and Lehtonen.” Then Heatley was traded. Then Lehtonen’s groin was torn. And those early draft picks didn’t bear fruit (Stefan). In some cases, they never even reported. (Nikulin.)

Brendan

April 4th, 2010
1:42 am

Tony C., no answer to the question, “What is Thrashers Hockey?” speaks to the GM position. He had a decade to implement some sort of “vision.” As near as I can tell it was … “let’s just play defense-optional hockey, trying to flood the net with pucks. Goals are what make hockey exciting, to the fan. We’ll always be in the upper third of the league for goal production.” Well, I think we’ve seen the results of that. If that was Waddell’s “vision,” his vision was flawed from inception. That he didn’t read and adjust it … is mind-boggling.

Hotrod

April 4th, 2010
8:06 am

URM…. Now thats funny! an RIP to a remote control….nice

jimbo

April 4th, 2010
8:13 am

Brendan- RIGHT ON MAN. For the decade, Donnie Brilliance has called defensive, trap oriented hockey “boring”. But, what are all of us railing for in our posts “WINS, WINS, WINS”. All his bonehead moves have produced in 10 years are a few flashes of brilliance and many, many years of frustration. Someone ought to write a book about his ability to last for 10 years in such a high profile position with NO VISION, NO STRATEGY, NO MEASURABLE RESULTS. Absolutely unbelievable!!!!!

Red Light

April 4th, 2010
8:24 am

Come on guys, Lehtonen’s potential to be a top-flight NHL goaltender was hindered by injuries, and/or his unwillingness to dedicate himself to being in sound physical condition. Injuries happen, and while talented DiPietro and Lehtonen have missed too many games to be considered top-flight goalies. And, as a result both the Isles and the Thrashers overpaid for their services. Bygones.

1/24/2010 Assigned to Chicago (AHL) on a conditioning assignment.
9/16/2009 Back surgery, sidelined indefinitely.
4/11/2009 Missed 6 games (upper body injury).
12/20/2008 Missed 21 games (back injury).
11/26/2007 Missed 16 games (groin) and assigned to Chicago (AHL).
4/18/2006 Missed the last 6 games of the regular season (sprained ankle).
12/26/2005 Missed 35 games (groin)

Rhodes, Hnilicka, Tabaracci, Dafoe, Dunham, Nurminen, Lehtonen, Pavelec, Maracle, Shields, Garnett, Langkow, Fankhouser, Cassivi, Berkhoel, Hedberg and Pavelec all played 1 or more games in Atlanta.

The constant presence during the entire time of those 17 goalies? Don Waddell and Steve Weeks. Lets just leave it at that!

Kovy's Agent

April 4th, 2010
8:29 am

Waddell wanted to emulate the offensive-finesse system they had in Detroit but alas one needs talent, and top-tier at that, to make that system work. I remember DW saying before year one that the Thrashers would be an offensive-oriented team, not the dull defensive-oriented stye that populated much of hockey back then. Well, easier said than done. And as Brendan mentioned, DW never wavered from that emphasis. Imagine if they had gone to a bruising, we may not be the most talented team but we’ll punish you physically, brand of hockey it would have played much better to the football-focused south patron instead of this finesse oriented, European-style of play.

dandylions

April 4th, 2010
8:56 am

I never win anything

World Be Free

April 4th, 2010
9:13 am

Heat Miser and five_hole-I hate to say the refs played a significant role, but that Crosby non-call and a few others are typical of the refs this season. It was similar in the Detroit-Nashville game. It will get worse next year, with a group of new officials come ito the league. The new refs barely remember when a bad call did not play a crucial role in a game. A better way of saying it-refs, let the players play and call the obvious infractions. These new rules need to be tweaked.

I have one question-where the heck was the winger on Gonchar’s goal? That was a prime shot to the net, uncontested with less than 2 minutes to go. I won’t argue the rest of the game cause it is what it is.

The “factor” with Kovalchuk-we would be in this position if Kovy would have been a man at the beginning of the season and told the Thrashers he was not going to resign under any circumstances. Then we could have made a deal that would have positively impacted this team for an entire season. Kovalchuk was a distraction for 2/3 of the season.

Pittsburgh Pirate Fan

April 4th, 2010
9:25 am

More talk about the Thrashers moving to that great Canadian metropolis-Winnipeg. The drunk was on Hockey Night in Canada last night chirping about Winnipeg again last night.

Folks, the Thrashers at this point have no reason to move from Atlanta. Does ASG want to give up 41 dates in Philips? I doubt it. Most of what you see in the North American media is unsubstantiated rumors. Talking about it now is just a waste of time. Let’s talk about the draft choices that we will blow in the June draft.

Red Light

April 4th, 2010
9:35 am

World Be Free:

I’m pretty sure Kovy let everyone know he wasn’t going to re-sign long before any of the spin manifested itself in the media before the deadline. All the other BS was just smoke and mirrors, trying to save face, etc., in my opinion. In fact, I’ll bet Waddell was aware of it before Dec. 1.

R. Stroz

April 4th, 2010
10:00 am

Red Light – I know DW was aware of it.

The source is an interesting one though. One of the employees at the Team Store told my son that they had stopped making any new Kovalchuk related items around December 1st.

In poker, that’s what we call a tell.

Red Light

April 4th, 2010
10:11 am

R. Stroz: What’s more interesting than the tell is that it took two more months to come up with the right deal. When the Thrashers went on that disastrous streak in December, maybe that was fall-out from all of the other players recognizing that their franchise couldn’t keep the star yet again?

Happy Easter Everyone! Time to go hunt for eggs.

oh no!

April 4th, 2010
10:14 am

what else is new. the thrash always say games like these are important but they don’t play like its important! Half of the team is filled with slackers. When the good players like max and antropov and kane try to shine the slackers ruin the game for the whole team. Look at the score 3-2. I blame this game on the moose. That was a very very very soft OTgoal he gave up. It at LEAST should have gone to So where the thrashers always have a good chance to win! Dammit thrashers you guys suck!

oh no!

April 4th, 2010
10:16 am

Why are you guys not blaming MOOSE! the soft goal he GAVE UP is the reason our team lost. A goalie ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS has to be alert! Terrible goal given up by a terrible goalie!

HookyBob

April 4th, 2010
11:04 am

Promise, potential, just have patience,…please!!!! There’s always next year (at least so far). We are building,….. we have immense young talent in the system,…. and we have lots of money to spend on critical free agents. That thought is another favor my memory provides as I grow older (no such thing as deja vu here). It is similar to the fact that now, I can also hide my own Easter eggs.

Makes me think the ASG octocluster all have similar memory issues.

Fans, however, have good memories,…and, thanks to Rawhide and his brain trust (you folks), most of it is in writing. I’m thinking this is where the collective opinions/direction of the ASG and the fans diverge.

Where do we, as fans, go from here? In the short term,… I’m looking for a team to follow in the 2nd season. Right now it is the Yotes and Preds,….but any suggestions are welcomed.

HookyBob

April 4th, 2010
11:08 am

Uff,..da. Aproof reader I am not.

Bloggers,..please substitute the word “why” for “where” in the last sentance of my 3rd paragraph.

One true Thrasher fan

April 4th, 2010
11:25 am

How could you watch the playoffs without the Thrashers in it. Shame on all of you.

thrasherdawg

April 4th, 2010
11:33 am

R. Stroz…you may understand poker but you obviously have no understanding of business.

Producing Kovy related items WITHOUT A CONTRACT would be like buying a house you can’t afford because you’re going to get a higher paying job any day now.

Oh, not to mention the basis of your information is from a store clerk? Who heard it from someone, who heard it from someone.

Kovy is about Kovy…he lied, period. All he cared about was being the highest paid player in history. Read the New Jersey Devils blog…the fans can’t stand him. If you didn’t see…he turned the puck over and gave up the winning goal against Boston the other night.

Getting rid of Kovy is the best thing that ever happened to this franchise.

thrasherdawg

April 4th, 2010
11:43 am

Red Light, Kovy a star? Your kidding, right? The New Jersey fans think he’s a liability.

Since the trade Bergfors has 8 goals and Kovy has 9 and Kovy is their key man on the power play. Not to mention Kovy plays on a much better team.

What a deal…almost the same exact production for 6 million dollars less per year. This doesn’t even take into account the other players the Thrashers got.

LAC

April 4th, 2010
12:15 pm

This from the Kansas City NBC outlet KSHB website…

Posted by: Justin Unell
Email: unell@nbcactionnews.com
Last Update: 4/03 11:28 pm

KANSAS CITY, Mo. – We’ve heard this before. But new developments have surfaced concerning Kansas City’s chances of landing an NHL team.

Usually, NHL preseason games are announced by now for next fall. The Sprint Center has announced an NBA preseason game between Miami and Oklahoma City on Oct. 8.

But arena officials are putting three dates in September and October on hold for NHL exhibition games. The dates are Friday, Sept. 24, Friday, Oct. 1 and Saturday, Oct. 2.

“Obviously, teams aren’t going to commit to coming to Kansas City if there is a bigger fish to fry if you will out there as far as an NHL team who might need a runway to land on,” NHL 21 President Paul McGannon said.

McGannon is optimistic that an NHL team could relocate to the metro as soon as next season. The top candidates are the Phoenix Coyotes, New York Islanders and Atlanta Thrashers.

The NHL currently owns the Coyotes. The league is looking to sell the team. That new owner could take the team out of Arizona if the Coyotes’ arena doesn’t have a new lease by June 30.

The Islanders have an outdated arena. The Thrashers are battling unstable ownership.

McGannon leads the local group who’s trying to bring an NHL team to the metro. NBC Action Sports interviewed McGannon about the latest news. To see the interview, just click on the video player.

They are GONE Folks !

Midfield

April 4th, 2010
12:26 pm

“New Jersey fans think that Kovy is a liability.” Although I can’t read minds of the New Jersey fans, last time I checked – about 5 minutes ago – Kovy is a plus player since the trade. Apparently, his advertised unwillingness to play defense could be managed quite well – by the able team management.

R. Stroz

April 4th, 2010
12:27 pm

R. Stroz…you may understand poker but you obviously have no understanding of business.

Wrong.

The Thrashers knew he wasn’t staying much longer and shut down inventory production. The Thrashers knew negotations were kaput.

If you’re mad at Kovy, I can understand your frustration. However, who recruited the top scoring players for the Thrashers this season? Was it Kovy or Waddell?

I think I would point my rage at the GM who hasn’t EVER been able to re-sign a top tier UFA.

BTW, poker and business share a common trait, cost/benefit analysis.

Jameson

April 4th, 2010
12:50 pm

Kovalchuk, Ovechkin, and then Crosby. We’ve got this in the bag.

HookyBob

April 4th, 2010
12:54 pm

Thrashdawg: I like your posts and insight but ,..I have yet to find an instance when poker knowledge does not apply directly to business. I’m fully in step with Stroz’s “tell.”

“Producing Kovy items w/o a contract,…” At the time there was a contract,…through June. In December the ordering of “no more Kovy jersey’s” was, indeed, a leading that indicator of mgmt’s view was that there was no (would be) contract after June. I encourage you to correct my logic failures on this. Keep in mind your corrections must also overcome the fact that Kovy is gone.

Thrashers27

April 4th, 2010
1:11 pm

LAC,

It’s just a press release. Doesn’t mean anything. Anybody can write anything they want and put it into a press release.

The fact still remains that there are too many obstacles to clear and too great of a cost to remove the team from Atlanta, that I can’t imagine it being worth anyone’s while to even try to move the Thrashers.

They will stay.

J-man

April 4th, 2010
1:18 pm

To borrow the Monty Python example used a few days ago, the Thrashers are now “on the cart” and just waiting for the driver to finish them off.

R. Stroz – the odds of Lehtonen consistently staying healthy are quite low. While you may be right, you also run a bigger chance of being wrong than you think. Outside of Atlanta some of the hockey press think that Atlanta stands a chance of winning that trade big time. In another year or two we’ll know.

Thrashers27

April 4th, 2010
1:33 pm

LET’S GO WINGS!!!

World Be Free

April 4th, 2010
2:02 pm

Red Light-I tend to agree with you. But I contend that the cards were on the table before the season. The bar was set when Nash re-upped with Columbus. “We’ felt that he was gone before opening night. This was the time that his value was highest.

Kari-I think Kari’s biggest problems are between his ears, his injuries only intensified the situation. He is a horrible trainer, not commited to getting in shape and staying in shape.

Hey Biltong, how much for the Kovy 3rd jersey?

World Be Free

April 4th, 2010
2:09 pm

Last game of the season for myself and Ms. WBF Tuesday-anyone else going?

R. Stroz

April 4th, 2010
2:09 pm

In another year or two we’ll know.

True, in the meantime, we can only watch and see how things turn out.

However, is our goalie situation any better now than it was at the beginning of the season, or have we just hit the reset button waiting to see how Pavelec develops over the next few seasons?

To me, it just seems like another way to pull out the “wait till next season sign.” We’ve seen that sign for ten years now, going on eleven.

R. Stroz

April 4th, 2010
2:10 pm

WBF – I’ll be in “The Perch.”

Brendan

April 4th, 2010
2:13 pm

So, any Nashville or Phoenix Coyotes fans in the house? Well, if there are, you can rejoice in that Philly is up, 4-2, after two periods vs. Detroit. I do prefer a Coyotes-Predators series to a Yotes-Red Wings series. Detroit has not one, but TWO games-in-hand on Nashville, while only trailing the Preds by 2-points.

Now, as for Thrasher fans … this isn’t good. If Philly holds on for this win, Atlanta’s failure to hang on to that lead against Pittsburgh is essentially the death knell for this season.

This offseason, like every offseason, is another critical opportunity for this franchise to take STEP #1 towards legitimacy, by firing Waddell. My guess of April 1, 2010, has passed for Waddell’s contract. YungJBfrom MTL is next on the clock, at April 15, 2010. And if Anderson has to join Waddell, then so be it. The next GM will want to name his own Head Coach anyway.

Brendan

April 4th, 2010
2:16 pm

R.Stroz is right … we began the year waiting on Lehtonen. We endured the criticism of those who said, “You can’t carry three goalies.” Moose and Pavelec were SUPPOSED to be temporary stopgap to the goaltending situation. The reality was … they were the tandem all year long! Oh, yes, the organization flirted with Manny Legace, but he wound up in Carolina.

This offseason, we must go find a #1 goalie. That has to be on the shopping list. If we have to get one via trade, then I suppose that’s the last resort.

Brendan

April 4th, 2010
2:25 pm

dandylions, you’re a winner just for trying. There’ll be another contest next year. And the votes won’t be due until “puck drop” in October 2010. Good luck to you, sir. Keep an eye out on the offseason moves, then make your best guess.

Jameson

April 4th, 2010
2:31 pm

Datsyuk scores!!! I think this is the first game I’ve ever rooted for the Red Wings to win.

Jameson

April 4th, 2010
2:35 pm

It looks like if we’re going to pluck a #1 from free agency our best bets will go with either Nabokov or Mason. Are there any teams with two potential #1s signed through next season?

Brendan

April 4th, 2010
2:59 pm

It’s 4-3 now, still in favor of Philly over Detroit.

Switching gears, I accept that Kovalchuk is gone. But if Kovy actually expressed interest in re-signing here, and in a responsible way, I’d think we’d be foolish not to consider it. He is a six time 40-goal scorer. The issue with Kovy, professionally, is his defense. If we get a Coach and GM that will force him to play defense … or be benched or traded, then everything might turn up roses.

For me, I think the Kovy issue was all about not wanting to waste his prime years in Atlanta, with Waddell and Spirit running things. But stop to imagine if THAT obstacle were no longer there? Let’s say Arthur Blank owns the team, and he puts Steve Yzerman in as GM, and Guy Carbonneau to coach it. Well, doesn’t that change things? Yes, yes it would. Different ownership. Different management. Different Coach. New “winning” environment over that of a “losing status quo,” saturated with indifference. Kovy owns a house here. Correctly, he owns a palace/mansion here. And, apparently, his plan is to live here for the rest of his days. Ask him if he’d like to play in the city where he lives, Kovy would probably say, “Yes.” But he can’t do that. Not, as it stands now, with the Great Octocluster and their lameduck GM.

I would credit Kovy will getting Max Afinogenov and Nik Antropov to sign here. I never quite looked into Nikki Zherdev’s KHL numbers this year. But if he’s interested in returning to the NHL, I wonder what Antro and Max would have to say about recruiting him. Although, that’s not a defensive acquisition. That’s another defensive liability.

When a team’s identity is most closely tied to being on the lottery draft stage, like Atlanta’s is, it’s tough to land unrestricted Tier I free agents. The Tier II free agents have to sign where their offers come. See “Ron Hainsey.” They get paid, but they aren’t, necessarily, where they want to be. They’re just getting paid better. For me, as I ponder the offseason moves, I’m only and exclusively looking at Tier II free agents. When Atlanta targets a Tier I, they use our bid to drive up the cost of their intended destination. See Brian Campbell in Chicago. I’m done playing that game. Let’s just look at the Tier II guys, then see what makes sense. And if nothing makes sense, let’s see what Chicago (AHL) can fill?

Are any of these guys capable of making the leap, next year? Kulda, Kaip, Machacek, Grant Lewis, Peter Mannino, Sterling, Krog, Stapleton, Eric O’Dell, Angelo Esposito, Daultan Leveille, Noah Welch, Paul Postma, Scott Lehman, Tomas Pospisil, Riley Holzapfel, Josh Gratton, Michael Forney, Joey Crabb, etc. If they are, it makes more sense to bring these guys up than to drastically overpay some “middling” player for the same stats. I’m all in favor of the youth movement.

I still see this … as a PROCESS. Former beatwriter Craig Custance said, after the NY Rangers sweep, “This loss has set the organization back by five years.” What he meant was, “It’ll take 5 years to get back into being a playoff team, with the possibility of winning a round.” In 2007, Atlanta did have Tkachuk, Sim, Kovalchuk, Hossa, Belanger, Kozlov, Holik, White, Slater, Mellanby, Havelid, Zhitnik, Sutton, Moose and Lehtonen, etc. In short, on paper, there was “some shot” at winning a round of playoffs. That is, if you live by “name recognition.” Holik, Mellanby, Kozlov … were surviving more on reputation than actual playing ability. I repeat, I still see this as a process. Not a “quick fix” opportunity. It’s more important to do this thing right, than it is to simply make the playoffs, and be throttled. We have the potential to become the youngest, fastest, most highly skilled team in the NHL, if we don’t do anything rash and foolish in free agency and at the trade deadlines. Look at Los Angeles. Look at Nashville. Look at Phoenix. Look at Colorado. Look at Buffalo. These are all teams who missed the playoffs last year, and most missed in the years before that.

It’s a Final: Philadelphia 4, Detroit 3, in regulation time!

Brendan

April 4th, 2010
3:01 pm

Trixie, can you save my post?

Brendan

April 4th, 2010
3:02 pm

I’d be shocked if Nabakov signed with ATlanta. He’d be the most coveted UFA out there, although Roloson and Biron will also be on the free agent market for goalies.

World Be Free

April 4th, 2010
3:02 pm

Jameson, don’t know but I do know that teams that need a number 1 (like Philly) need to shed alotta salary to afford either of these guys.

Stroz-see you Tuesday. Smoothie?

Brendan

April 4th, 2010
3:04 pm

Twenty-four eggs were found at my house! It was a fun hunt!

Trixie (Rawhide's Secretary)

April 4th, 2010
3:06 pm

Mr. Brendan – Your 2:59 pm post has been freed from Blog Purgatory.

Brendan

April 4th, 2010
3:06 pm

Don’t forget, all the STH’s will base their decision to renew or not on a Thrasher win over Kovalchuk. So, we win it, Waddell stays.

Jameson

April 4th, 2010
3:08 pm

Well, now it would seem impossible for both the Rangers and Flyers to not get at least 4 points in their last 4 games.

World Be Free

April 4th, 2010
3:10 pm

sisu-not sure where you are coming from when you talk about the KC Chiefs. I have been familiar with the Chiefs since the mid 60’s when they were constantly up against the Bills. KC is a premier NFL town, great fans and a great outdoor stadium. If the Kansas City Chiefs are in trouble the hole NFL is too and I do not think that’s the case.

Long live the American Football League!

Off subject-I hope all of you are cheering AGAINST Tiger Woods next weekend and beyond. He sold himself as a family man to many companies. What a slickster. I” never buy anything Nike ever again.

Brendan

April 4th, 2010
3:12 pm

HookyBob, my two “adopted” Western Conference teams this year were Minnesota and Los Angeles. So, I will be rooting for the Kings. But I will also be pulling for the Coyotes and Preds, too. And Colorado. I like these teams who have been out of it for a while, or have never been known as playoff juggernauts. I’d love a Western Conference Final four to be Nashville/Phoenix, Los Angeles, Colorado and Chicago. The logistics of it make that impossible, however. Wait, I could live with San Jose being there. I just don’t like that Heatley is there. Otherwise, I could root for them.

In the East, I am pulling for Buffalo, NJ, and Boston. I like Tuukka Rask, the #21 pick from the 2005 Draft. We coulda had him at #16, instead we went with Alex Bourret. Bygones.

Chicago leads Calgary, 1-0. Go Flames!!

Brendan

April 4th, 2010
3:14 pm

Thank you, Trixie!!! Muuuah!

R. Stroz

April 4th, 2010
3:18 pm

Brendan – You found Chelios at your house?

Brendan

April 4th, 2010
3:20 pm

Yes, he was laying the most eggs, R.Stroz.

Brendan

April 4th, 2010
3:30 pm

I know it’s not fashionable to root for the Sabres in these upcoming playoffs, but I will. Let me explain why. Buffalo has terrible ownership. Tom Golisano might be a decent-enough fella, but he entrusts Larry Quinn with stewardship of the franchise. Quinn blocks Darcy Regier at most opportunities, contractually. And yet, with “video drafting,” Lindy Ruff and Darcy Regier manage to overcome the losses of Dumont, Drury, Briere, Biron, etc. And now, they’re back in the playoffs. How? Amazing accountability and coaching, I guess. Buffalo has so many hurdles to overcome, and yet they do it. It reminds me of Nashville, another team I will root for this Spring.

If Buffalo gets that #2 seed, they could face Crosby and the Penguins in round 2. They might draw Montreal, Boston, or Philly in the first round. Ottawa is an unlikely first round opponent. Ottawa will get the NJ-Pittsburgh loser, in terms of winning the Atlantic Division. How funny would it be … if the Washington Capitals wind up drawing the NY Rangers again this year? Remember last year? The NY Rangers went up, 3-1, when the Capitals came back to take the series. By the way, the Rangers won BOTH games in Washington to open that series, last year. Don’t think Ovechkin doesn’t recall it, like a Senator under oath, being grilled by Congress.

World Be Free

April 4th, 2010
3:36 pm

Brendan-thanks for your Sabres support. You have the ownership situation right on. The funny thing about Quinn, is that he was forced out by the previous ownership group. Tom G. decided to bring him back.

It’s the old nasty divorce, them remarrying the same old bitch and falling “in love” all over again.

Smitty

April 4th, 2010
4:29 pm

Have not renewed my STH. It is a battle between my affection and love for hockey or continuing to support ASG. I like the youth on the Thrashers and down on the farm in ORD. But I just do not see it being developed as well as Detroit or Buffalo. Slater’s penalty late yesterday was bogus but he should not have put himself in that position. And that comes down to coaching. Late in the game a good coach will tell his players no penalties. Keep both hands on your stick, keep your stick on the ice, chip the puck in, one man forecheck and the other two forwards get back to help on defense. It is a simple game except for us Thrasher fans.

I think I was as mad as I ever have been at a Thrasher loss as I was yesterday. The game was ours and we blew it. Despite Moose being bad in goal and Colby being suspended we battled to have the lead late in the game. Then came the Slater penalty and the gift goal in OT. Damn.

LAC

April 4th, 2010
5:08 pm

thrashers27… Look more closely, It was an INTERVIEW !

Thrashers27

April 4th, 2010
5:26 pm

Be that as it may, it is all speculation and I still can’t understand how anyone can say anything of the sort with such confidence. If somebody told me that Phoenix was moving, I might listen. Our beloved Thrashers are staying here in Atlanta.

Again, from what I understand the contractual ties and sponsorships make it nearly impossible for the team to be moved. Thrashers may indeed by up for sale, but they’re not moving anywhere.

It’s all speculation and nobody knows anything for certain.

Mr. Heat Miser

April 4th, 2010
5:28 pm

Philly beat Detroit. Now Kovalchump can come to town Tuesday night and finish us off. How fitting.

Brendan

April 4th, 2010
6:43 pm

The Thrashers will defeat the Devils, in a shootout. And everyone will go home happy. And the next day, they’ll call up their reps to say, “I’m renewing my seats for next year.” And with that costly, costly victory … lay the fate of 2 more years of Don Waddell, to further ruin this franchise.

When instead, they could go home happy. Cheer loudly. And the next day call their reps to say, “No frekkin way I’m renewing. If you fire Waddell, I’ll renew. If you don’t, I won’t.”

If the Devils hang seven on us, and Ilya gets a hat trick, will that produce a chorus of “boos” and a “fire Waddell chant?” Not in “polite” Atlanta. Philly, yes. Boston, yes. New York, yes. Chicago, probably. Detroit, yes. In Atlanta, we sit there … shrugging … blaming it all on lawsuits.

I can’t root for the Thrashers to fail. But I can root for the STH’s to do the right thing, even after a Thrashers win. I can root for them to say, “No chance I’m back next year.” And every one of those fans who does that … will get their very, same seat … discounted by 50-percent, in just a few short months.

This team won’t relocate. The NHL Commissioner understands the situation. Let’s imagine the Red Wings were faltering this year. It’s not hard to do, considering they were in 10th place 3 weeks ago. And that 40-percent of Detroit’s STH’s decided not to renew. Would the Commissioner of the league suddenly decide that “Hockey has failed in Detroit?” No, hardly. And the NHL Commissioner understands that in 1999-2000, Atlanta soldout 38 of 41 home games, as the level of hockey interest in this town, when they’re “consumer confidence” in the product. The Atlanta Thrashers aren’t going anywhere. The only thing that has to change … is the ownership and/or the ownership’s current business mode and attitude towards the GM position. When these things change, Atlanta will not bleed the NHL of $17 million annually. Instead, it’ll be a revenue producer, propping up Phoenix and Florida, and the NY Islanders, etc. The NHL Commissioner understands that 5 million people live in this city. The NHL Commissioner understands that Atlanta is the 8th largest TV market in the country. The NHL Commissioner knows that the Atlanta franchise is mismanaged, and is not happy about it. But relocation is not an option. At the earliest, the Thrashers may move in 2019. And they won’t move, even then.

stendek

April 4th, 2010
7:46 pm

Bill. Is game tonight or Monday night? Watching SportSouth as I type at 7:46. Not a hockey game in sight! Sincerely. ++STENDEK++

stendek

April 4th, 2010
7:47 pm

Scratch that. Was just enlightened. Guess Easter excitement has yet to subside. Sorry for such a dumb question. Best. ++STENDEK++

stendek

April 4th, 2010
7:48 pm

Catch you Tuesday! ++STENDEK++

Pittsburgh Pirate Fan

April 4th, 2010
8:14 pm

Sounds like a number of STHs are not coming back next year. The one common factor pushing paying customers away is the general manager.

Why is this so diffcult?

Smoothie

April 4th, 2010
8:20 pm

World be Free – I’ll be there with my lady and the boyz up in 317 as usual. Wouldn’t miss this game for nothing? Our only chance this season to boo Kovy lustily and purge ourselves of that festering resentment…time to start anew! Although after we pummel the Dev-eels down here in Georgia, I hope we lose our last two games so we can get the 7th pick instead of the 8th! j/k I have no idea who is worth a damn after Taylor, Tyler and Tippecanoe, I mean Fowler. Watch Waddell draft another goalie or D-man with a Top 10 pick!! Is there a skilled, but large and ornery Swede available to complement Klingberg when he’s ready in a year or two?

At any rate, come up and see us in 317, rows 1 and 2. If you’ve ever taken a peak at The Blueland Chronicle, you’ll love hanging with the boys and I for a period of Thrashers hockey…we keep it real. Or we don’t pay attention and make fun of each other instead!! Or Jimmy Slater.

Red Light

April 4th, 2010
8:56 pm

Lets see thrasherdawg, any other player leap to mind that has scored 337 in his first 617 NHL games this century? He’s 16th on the active list in goals scored, and all of the 15 ahead of him played a minimum of 828 games (that’s Hossa with 362 goals and is 13th on the active list). He is most definitely an offensive star and despite your feelings about him, is widely regarded as such by everyone who watches the game. Yes, he has shortcomings, but is a star!

And if you really want to get pissy, Heatley has 299 goals in 585 games. But, he’s no star either, right?

kracker

April 4th, 2010
9:14 pm

Yep, we’re pretty much dead meat w/ the Flyers beating the Wings……on to the off-season chatter!!!!

Thrashers Supporter

April 4th, 2010
9:22 pm

Some NJ Devils comments about Kovy. Where anybody finds hate?

Posted by Dahhhevils
April 04, 2010, 4:09PM
I LOVE KOVYYYYYY!!! Stay with us mannnnn.. im telling you that you will have the best rest career in your life if you stay… as long as you agree to sign a 10 year 40,000,000 dollar contract, for 4 million a season, please say yessssss

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Posted by deheinz1
April 04, 2010, 5:18PM
That is really funny Dahhhevils, he turned down a 100,000,000 million dollar contract and he is going to sign for 40?

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Posted by squidboy
April 04, 2010, 7:31PM
Lou has got to find any means possible to keep this guy. He seems to be a great team guy, his skills are incredible and the Devils deserve to have an offensive force like Kovy for the first time in their history.

Whatever it takes Lou. Sign Kovy, Sign Kovy, Sign Kovy!!!

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Posted by Dahhhevils
April 04, 2010, 8:16PM
hahaha i know i Just extremely love his top goals in Atlanta because he plays like a flying falcon through the ice, he burns defenders, all that we need is get him use to our system and his team mates so he can become a wizzard… Parise needs to man up and be himself like he use to, something is wrong with him lately. No highlight goals at all this season, maybe like 2 though.

I AM OFFICIALLY THE #1 KOVY FAN as long as he stays in NJ.

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Posted by Puddy95
April 04, 2010, 8:25PM
If Lemaire is back next season and the Devils lose Kovy and Martin. I will offically be an Islander fan. Lou needs to go to the boss and rob him. I don’t care if we pay taxes to keep this guy on the team. My guess, 5 years- 7 million per.

Brendan

April 4th, 2010
10:08 pm

Red Light, I saw a graphic today that read, “players scoring the most goals since the 2001 season.

1. Jerome Iginla
2. Ilya Kovalchuk
3. Dany Heatley

I think that was during the Flyers-Red Wings game. By the way, San Jose got up, 2-0, but the Avalanche have come roaring back with four unanswered goals for a 4-2 lead, with 12:00 left in regulation time.

Kovy is special. He’s weak defensively, to be sure. But Kovy just may be the best pure sniper in the NHL. I wouldn’t dispute that. He’s got great speed, good hands, good play-making sense. He’s going to get paid. And no, I doubt it will be a $101 million deal. We’ll see, though. If Kovy signs with the Columbus Blue Jackets for 12 years/$135 million, I’ll admit Kovy was only interested in money. If he signs for 7 years/$60 million, forgoing $41 million to play for a contender, then it was always true that, “Kovy’s Stanley Cup dreams are not for sale.”

In a league with a salary cap, I don’t think it’s wise for any player who wants to win the Cup to make some 12-15 year deal, unless … they just love the area and want to make a committment to it, figuring that one of those 15 years is bound to result in a championship. Okay, excepting Detroit, who will win another Cup in the next 15 years. That does make sense. But if Kovy was looking at say, Vancouver, there’s no guarantee of a Cup there. There’s never been a Cup there. Same deal with Los Angeles. Same deal with St. Louis. Etc.

I won’t “boo” Kovalchuk. He’s doing what any player who wants to win would do. And that’s “leave Atlanta, so long as Waddell and the AS, LLC is in charge.” Kovy brought in Max and Antropov. Why “boo” the guy? But he wanted too much money! He’s greedy and selfish!! Well, I think that is the “polite” way of saying, “I won’t re-sign here. I’ve got a pregnant wife, and I don’t want to be separated from her during his pregnancy, with other little children running around the mansion.” Yes, Kovy played Waddell like fiddle. But it takes two to be deceitful. One to do the deceiving, and another to BUY IT, or “pretend” to buy it, to help sell tickets until the deadline.

Red Light

April 4th, 2010
10:48 pm

I think your points are valid Brendan, all the way around. In fact, I don’t understand why Thrashers fans boo Heatley, Hossa and now Kovy. They all said the like Atlanta and its fans, but one left for personal reasons and the other two for money, but all had one thing in common, they wanted to win. If you boo anyone it shouldn’t be these three players. Further, just think how bad the overall record of this franchise would be if it weren’t for these three? You want to boo someone, go to Sec. 104 and direct your ire to one of the guys sitting in the first three rows if they have the balls to show up!

TrueBlue

April 4th, 2010
11:00 pm

beeeeeeeeeeppppppppp….

Sorry Doctor, they are gone….

Smoothie

April 4th, 2010
11:07 pm

Being a fan involves emotion. If it didn’t, we wouldn’t spend so much time concerning ourselves with this particular team. If we boo Kovy, then its because we don’t agree with his decision.

I bought in. I thought Kovy was different. Perhaps he isn’t a true leader? Perhaps he wants to lead somewhere else? But I did think he possessed the will and the drive to achieve and overcome adversity. Even if it meant staying in ATL. Lord knows it is such inhumane torture for a man to live in ATL earning 100 million dollars in such a miserable hockey town. But I digress.

I will boo him because I am disappointed. Beyond that, I don’t begrudge him for leaving if he simply lost faith in Waddell and the ASG. But when the hell is it disingenous to be honest with the fans and shoot straight when your honesty could potentially be the catalyst for the monumental change you all crave and covet. Leaders dare to be great in the face of adversity and take the tougher road when the crossroads is at your feet. But I wonder if Kovy truly has what it takes to do just that.

Red Light

April 5th, 2010
12:17 am

You’re right on the last point, Smoothie, he doesn’t. It’s all about the money for the Eastern Europeans!

LAC

April 5th, 2010
3:28 am

Brenden, you may have the answer to this question.

In the draft in June, Is it the first EIGHT teams that are in the lottery ?

Because IF things remain the same, we would be team EIGHT… Thus getting a chance at the top pick… Just not sure if it is 8 or 6… in the lottery sweepstakes.

Thanks !

theriddler

April 5th, 2010
5:53 am

Thrashers next to last in conference GA. Business as usual.

DWTOO

April 5th, 2010
7:19 am

Read an interesting quote in yesterday’s Gwinnett Post from Glad’s coach Jeff Pyle. He apologized to the fans for his team’s quitting and poor performance. He took the blame for bringing these guys in and threatened them all. Would like to see some of that accountability from this team.

What a novel concept.

World Be Free

April 5th, 2010
7:46 am

Marc Savard, Marian Hossa, Ilya Kovalchuk and Danny Heatly.
What this team be like if we could have retained 2 of these 4 stars?

Smoothie-I’ll come and see you in 317-look forward to it.
Anyone else going tomorrow night?

Kovy isn’t the first player to turn down money to go to a winner. Just look at 1/3 of the New England Patriots roster. I’ve played on some losing hockey teams, it is not fun. Losing takes alot of a player, even if you love the game. This partially explains why some nights this team looks like it has no life, especially without a captain.

Red Light

April 5th, 2010
7:48 am

LAC: Only the bottom five teams have a chance at the No. 1 overall pick. No team can move up more than four spots due to the lottery. If the season finished as is, only Edmonton, Boston from Toronto, Florida, Tampa Bay and Carolina would have a shot at No. 1.

moriler

April 5th, 2010
8:33 am

Unless I’m completely mistaken, I think we’re effectively done now that Philly beat Detroit.

We’ve got 81 points; the Rangers have 82, Boston and Philly both have 84, and Montreal has 86. We max out at 87 points if we shove a horseshoe up our asses and light it on fire. But either Philly _or_ the Rangers must end up with 86 points somehow by the end of the season, due to the home-and-home — 4 points have to be given out in those games at a minimum, and it’s either 4 to the Rangers (for 86), 2 each (86 for Philly), or 4 to Philly (88). We also have no meaningful tiebreakers, so we have to finish a point up. This leaves us pretty much having to hope that multiple teams lose out in order for us to rise to 8th, which is a pipe dream even with how badly Boston and Philly are playing.

World Be Free

April 5th, 2010
8:35 am

Thanks Red Light, we should know the drill, since we have had so many high draft choices.

Red Light

April 5th, 2010
8:37 am

Hope to see you tomorrow night World Be Free.

jimbo

April 5th, 2010
8:38 am

Brendan- Aren’t we back to year ONE. Donnie Brilliance started the franchise out with the idea of building from the net out with the signing of Damian Rhodes and the drafting of Norm Maracle. Too bad that neither one panned out. Feels like Ground Hog Day. Can Patrik Stefan be too far away. Here’s a contest gang- pick the potential draftee who might best emulate Patrik once we pick him. Pull the plug and spare us, Lord.

MB

April 5th, 2010
9:11 am

LAC, just to clarify on Red Light’s response to your question, all 14 teams that miss the playoffs are in the lottery, but the lottery winner can only move up a maximum of 4 spots, so only the bottom 5 teams have the potential to win the first pick.

DWTOO, we went to the Glads game Saturday evening and based on what we saw, the coach SHOULD apologize. That was some of the worst hockey I’ve ever seen. It was so clear that we wouldn’t win that my nephews and I decided to see if the home team could keep their SOG at a 1:4 ratio with the Stingrays. With an offensive surge in the closing minutes, they made it up to 10 shots for the game compared to the Rays 35.

Oh, and if anybody still harbors hope that we may some day see Chad Denny up with the big club, put those thoughts to rest. He makes Andy Sutton look like Paul Coffey.

Tom Lysiak

April 5th, 2010
9:11 am

World Be Free – I’m hitting the Braves opener today and then the Thrash tomorrow night. That’s it for me. Can’t stand those obnoxious Penguin fans Saturday…..

Go Braves!

Go Thrashers (uhhh, go make those GM and coaching changes we need)!!!

World Be Free

April 5th, 2010
9:31 am

Red Light-where are you sitting? We should find a common spot to meet.

Tom-wish I was there for the home opener. Went to Spring Training a few weeks ago and had a blast. Braves will be OK this year, just OK I am not getting my hopes up.

Red Light

April 5th, 2010
9:47 am

How about the Absolut Bar outside of section 121-221 at 6:45 pm?

Red Light

April 5th, 2010
10:00 am

Playoff Scenario Update: Maximum number of points available for the five Eastern Conference teams battling for the final three playoff spots: Montreal 92, Boston 92, Philadelphia 90, Rangers 90, Atlanta 87

If the Flyers finish with 90, then the maximum the Rangers can earn is 88 (two wins and two OTLs).
If the Rangers finish with 90, then the maximum the Flyers can earn is 88 (one win and two OTLs).

Even if Atlanta wins all three of its remaining games, it will miss the playoffs if three of the following occur this week
• one point earned by the Canadiens
• three points earned by Boston
• three points earned by Philadelphia
• five points earned by the Rangers

If Atlanta goes 2-0-1 in its three remaining games, it will miss the playoffs if two of the following occur this week
• two points earned by Boston
• two points earned by Philadelphia
• four points earned by the Rangers including one win

If Atlanta goes 2-1 in its three remaining games, it will miss the playoffs if two of the following occur this week
• one point earned by Boston
• one point earned by Philadelphia
• three points earned by the Rangers including one win

If Atlanta goes 1-0-2 in its three remaining games, it will miss the playoffs if two of the following occur this week
• one point earned by Boston
• one point earned by Philadelphia
• three points earned by the Rangers

If Atlanta goes 1-1-1 in its three remaining games, it’s over for them!

World Be Free

April 5th, 2010
10:14 am

Red Light-now there’s an idea.
Smoothie – can you make it to the Absolute Bar tomorrow night?

All those heading to the game are cordually invited!

Smoothie

April 5th, 2010
11:03 am

World Be Free – we could potentially meet you at the Absolut bar but we sit upstairs and we might be scrambling to get to our seats before the game…we’re always running a bit late it seems. If you are so inclined, come on up between the 1st and 2nd periods and I’ll meet you either at the Bud Light stand outside of Section 317 or I can come around to the upstairs cocktail bar near the elevator to meet you. I’ll buy you a beverage if you’re imbibing. If you want to hang with us for the 2nd period, that’s great. If you have seats downstairs and they’re too good to pass up, I understand. But I can also introduce you to some fun people as well…knowing them has certainly enhanced my Thrashers experience. Rawhide may make an appearence as well up in our “balcony” perched not so high above the goal. As usual, I’ll be sportin’ my personalized Marty Reasoner sweater which I think is the only one as I haven’t seen any others! Just let me know how you want to rendez-vous and we can definitely meet up at some point. Cheers!

Oh, and Kovy: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Smoothie

April 5th, 2010
11:05 am

Damn it! Got stuck in the blog “net” of post purgatory.

Trixie my dear, would you please be so kind as to free it so WBF can see my response to his question. Thank you so kindly!!

Trixie (Rawhide's Secreatry)

April 5th, 2010
11:22 am

Mr. Smoothie – Your 11:03 am post has been freed from Blog Purgatory.

Smoothie

April 5th, 2010
11:48 am

You’re the best Trixie!! Thanks!

Red Light

April 5th, 2010
11:56 am

History is on the Thrashers’ side with the return of those who jilted the franchise!

Heatley’s first appearance at Philips Arena, Jan. 2, 2006
Thrashers 8, Senators 3

Savard’s first appearance at Philips Arena, Oct. 11, 2006
Thrashers 4, Bruins 1

Hossa’s first appearance at Philips Arena, March 20, 2009
Red Wings 6, Thrashers 3

World Be Free

April 5th, 2010
12:06 pm

Sounds good Smoothie, see you between periods 1 and 2.

Smoothie

April 5th, 2010
12:16 pm

WBF – where? Next to 317 or near the elevator / top of the escalator bar? Look forward to it!

Alan R.

April 5th, 2010
12:45 pm

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Red Light

April 5th, 2010
1:42 pm

Good stuff by Rich Chere of the Newark Star Ledger about Kovy’s return to Atlanta. Quotes by Anderson, Kozzie, Hedberg.

http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2010/04/thrashers_coach_john_anderson.html

Brendan

April 5th, 2010
1:44 pm

LAC, see Red Light’s 7:48 AM post, re: the lottery draft, and Atlanta’s possibility to be in it.

Somaatl95

April 5th, 2010
1:51 pm

Well folks, sad to see that a season that had such promise at the start turned into this. We can all debate and dream and say “What if…” but that doesn’t do much for us but think of what could have been.
Will the 2010 – 11 Atlanta Thrashers Season finally be the season where they get it together? Will we see the end of D-Wad as GM? Will JA continue to be thrown under the bus? Will Atlantas population finally show the hockey world what is possible when a team is winning? Will this be the year that Execute, Perform & Polish become the norm for our heroes? Will there be a player that hijacks the locker room with talks of pay and contract term? Will we finally have a goaltender that can stay on top with a top notch defense that performs well? Can the owners act more “Octo” than “Cluster”???

All this and more will be asked on the Season Finale of “Atlanta Thrashers 2009-2010 Season: All Pucked Up” Its a cliffhanger folks. See y’all in October!

Brendan

April 5th, 2010
1:56 pm

Jimbo, we are in a better place, NOW, than we were in 1999, when we drafted Stefan. In those days, we had Ray Ferraro and Steve Staios, and not much more. Today, we have Antropov, Finny, Hainsey, Enstrom, Bogosian, Kane, Pavelec, etc. We are better off today, then when we were at Square One.

In the system, are Kulda, Kaip, Klingberg, Grant Lewis, Peter Mannino, Angelo Esposito, Tim Stapleton, Spencer Machacek, Rily Holzapfel, Eric O’Dell, Daultan Leveille. If we can just keep Kane and Bogosian when they reach free agency, I think we have the potential to get better.

But Step #1 is … fire Waddell. Clean out the desk. Don’t promote him. You cannot keep a guy who has been in charge for 11 years … and think he doesn’t still hold “informal” power. He does. He’ll still have a ’say-so.’ So, it’s got to be complete removal, for real change to occur.

Brendan

April 5th, 2010
2:02 pm

MB, the Thrashers burned an 8th overall pick to get the draft position used to select Chad Denny. Ouch. My rule is always, “Never trade a Top 10 pick.” It’s a good rule to have. :)

World Be Free

April 5th, 2010
2:17 pm

Smoothie-Bud Light stand at section 317, Mr Reasoner

Smoothie

April 5th, 2010
2:44 pm

Sounds good! See you after 1. This Bud’s for you! :-)

Pittsburgh Pirate Fan

April 5th, 2010
3:26 pm

Brendan-or get someone new to making the picking!

minus whale

April 5th, 2010
3:36 pm

but rawhide, why would they be having playoff ticket presales if they weren’t going to make the playoffs?????

ThrasherTim

April 5th, 2010
3:57 pm

Didn’t someone in the ASG already declare recently on the radio (or was it the STH meeting?) that DW isn’t going anywhere? I’m saying that if DW is running the team next season, you can bet that the Moose is signing here again for another year. DW loves the Moose — otherwise, he wouldn’t have traded Kari.

I couldn’t believe what Slater did when he reached out his arm on that puck chase. I threw my cap down on the ground in disbelief. You are playing the Stanley Cup champs – you will get that call against you every time. I still held out hope we could pull it out since the PK had been great lately. I had a feeling we would lose once it got to OT. 6-13 in the OT/SO this year. Despite all our losing streaks, losing Kovvy and our anemic Power Play production, we could still be in the playoff mix if the bonus time record was something decent like 10-9. Wasn’t last year’s pathetic 76 point team much better in OT/SO?

Smoothie

April 5th, 2010
4:14 pm

ThrasherTim makes a good point. Our OT/SO record is miserable this year. We have not won in OT or the bonus point for a SO win since January 7th vs the Rangers when Moose stoned all NY shooters I believe. Unbelievable. That makes 7 lost OT points in a row. We haven’t won in OT outright since December 17th vs Dallas when Rich Peverley deflected in a Max Afinogenov offering from the corner. I also heard on Saturday’s telecast that we are a -10, now -11 in 4 vs 4 situations and that includes OT obviously. Our +/- on the season just happens to be -10. So we can basically blame our team’s ineptness in OT for our lack of a playoff qualification this season. Nice.

Alan R.

April 5th, 2010
4:53 pm

So we can basically blame our team’s ineptness in OT for our lack of a playoff qualification this season.

Ineptness, yes. However, I daresay it’s not ineptness in overtime that we should be worried about. How many games *this season* have we blown in the final period, only to have to force overtime?

Smoothie

April 5th, 2010
4:59 pm

I would say its both Alan. And in OT with all the open ice is where we miss Kovy the most. But we lost about 5 OT games with him as well since beating Dallas in Dec. The PK slump didn’t help much either when we needed consistency down the stretch and was the main cause of our 5-game losing streak.

Red Light

April 5th, 2010
6:03 pm

Since you asked Alan R., the Thrashers have blown just (5) third period leads that resulted in an OT or SO game. They are 1-4 in those games, and have lost four straight.

Dec 14 against the Rangers and Atlanta won
Jan. 1 against the Sabres, blew a 3-1 lead and Atl lost in OT
Feb. 10 against Colorado, Atlanta up 2-1 going into the 3rd, Antro extended the lead to 3-1, Colorado scored the last 3 goals, Cumiskey the OT game winner.
Feb. 13 against Chicago, Atlanta down 3-1 after one, went ahead 4-3 entering the 3rd, Bolland tied it up and Toews got the SO winner.
April 3 against Pittsburgh

On the other side of the coin, in the first six OT/SO games, Atlanta tied up the game in the 3rd period and finished 3-3 in those games. They also tied up five other games when trailing in the third, and finished 2-3 in those games.

Pittsburgh Pirate Fan

April 5th, 2010
9:10 pm

Red Light see you before the game, dark blue Thrashers “no-name” jersey and hat at the Absolute Bar

Brendan

April 5th, 2010
10:53 pm

Ohhhhhh Gaawwwwd! It was WORSE than I ever could have imagined. Ugggh. There’s baseball all over my Center Ice channels. I wish there was a way to block that.

Pittsburgh Pirate Fan

April 6th, 2010
5:04 am

It’s the only excitement in town right now Brendan.
Kovy hopes he won’t get boooed-just like Tiger Woods at Augusta.

mrtn36

April 6th, 2010
7:21 am

I’m not wasting my breath on a BOO — negative attention is still attention. I only see BLUE! GO THRASHERS! I

Red Light

April 6th, 2010
8:24 am

See you tonight PPF. Looking forward to it.

From another article on NJ.com by Colin Stephenson of the Star Ledger.

Kovalchuk was told that some in Atlanta were upset at some of the things he said after being traded by the Devils. He was told that by calling the Devils a “first-class organization” he somehow implied the Thrashers were less than that.

He didn’t try to amend those remarks, however.

“No – you know what? To be a first-class organization, first off, you have to win on a consistent basis,” he said. “And that’s all different. And they got a lot of great young players who could be very good if they’re going to treat them right and work with them right. So everything’s in their hands. And I spent there, eight years, and I left everything (on the ice); every game, I played 110 percent. So, if I said something, it made sense to me.”

http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2010/04/kovalchuk_doesnt_know_what_to.html

Red Light

April 6th, 2010
8:27 am

Martin Brodeur has 599 career victories going into tonight’s game!

Bluenote

April 6th, 2010
8:30 am

Smoothie/WBF: I enjoy your insight and rants. Will look for you topside at the 317 Bud stand btwn periods 1-2. Look for the only Petrovicky jersey in the house..

Rawhide

April 6th, 2010
9:07 am

Good morning gang…E-Day in Thrasherville is upon us. Cue the fat lady.