Thrasherville Six-Pack & Seventh Man Suggestion in Today’s Thrasherville Times

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Sunday March 14, 2010

Before we spread this morning’s Thrasherville Times out all over the bed or breakfast table…or wherever else you take the Sunday morning paper… I’d like to take this opportunity to give a couple of shout outs to a pair of “Bobs” that frequent this little on-line forum.

Friday night I had the chance to meet BadgerBob as well as Bob…yes, the original “Bob” of this blog…while attending the game at Philips Arena. Oh, and I also had the distinct pleasure of also meeting the lovely and charming Mrs. Bob as well.

It was wonderful to have met ya all…and I certainly do hope to see you again soon.

And now, the March 14, 2010 edition of the Thrasherville Times…

Working On A Thrasherville Six-Pack

This afternoon the Thrashers will entertain the Phoenix Coyotes, who are 41-22-5 after winning in Carolina last night and currently hold the 4th position in the Western Conference. The Thrashers on the other hand are 28-29-10, only two points away from the Southeast Division cellar and three points north of 14th place in the Eastern Conference.

Also, as you are all also very aware of, the home team is currently mired in a five-game losing streak…and not one of those loses brought with it even a single loser consolation point taking an opponent to overtime. Earlier in the season, the team suffered through a nine-game losing streak, but at least three of those defeats earned an overtime loser point.

But such is not the case during this latest slide as they have five losses with zero points. That being the case, a regulation loss today to the Coyotes would bring with it the possibility of having a Thrasherville Six-Pack cracked open.

What’s a Thrasherville Six-Pack, you ask? Well, that’s when you lose six consecutive games in regulation…and then someone is sent packing.

You know, like was the case with Bob Hartley in October of 2007.

If you want to compare this current streak of un-success with that of the first half-dozen games in the fall of ’07, back then the Thrashers were outscored 26-8 in the six losses…22-8 in the first five. In their current losing streak…the “Free-Fall From the Playoffs 2010 Edition”… they have been outscored 19-6.

As you can see, the goals for/goals against difference was pretty near the same…-13 now and -14 then.

So much for “incremental progress” and all that jive.

Kiss-Cam Couple For Seventh Man Award

I was once told that the most hard to attain status symbol in America these days is that of a long-term, happy, successful marriage. The reason being is that in order to achieve such, you have to have someone else in your life equally as dedicated, driven and devoted to obtaining it. You can gain riches and fame on your own, theoretically, but to achieve successful marriage status…well, that is something you simply cannot do on your own.

I’m reminded of this beautiful though many times throughout the hockey season when I see that wonderful elderly couple that appear so often on the Kiss Cam during intermission breaks. They always receive a wonderful ovation from the crowd and I can’t help but don a broad grin each and every time they are shown. And I know so many of you enjoy seeing them on the big jumbo screen above the ice of Philips as well.

The other day I, along with a few of my fellow Thrashervillians, came upon the topic of the two charming Kiss Cam favorites and an idea popped into my head. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if this season this lovely couple were honored with the seventh fan award, which is presented at the end of each season?

Personally, I think it would be a great way to honor their devotion to not only each other…but the Thrashers as well.

They have weathered life’s storms, endured hardships, troubles and tribulations…something we Thrashers fans case certainly relate is some measure to…as well as shared many wonderful moments in life as well along the way. And they still find a way to make it to so many home games…together.

I wish I new their names…and to that measure, I’m in the process of trying to learn them. But I thought I would throw the idea out there to the masses nonetheless so that when it comes time to decide who this year’s seventh fan recipient will be, they will be in the forefront of your minds.

Ya know, come to think if it…this may very well be the first-ever official endorsement by the editorial staff of the Thrasherville Times.

Has Anybody Seen My Old Friend John…or Tom…or Jim…or Anybody?

Back on February 6… as the Thrashers were making their way back to Thrasherville from D.C. in the midst of a blizzard … Executive Vice President and general manager Don Waddell, along with Atlanta Spirit partner Bruce Levinson, held a town hall meeting with season ticket holders to discuss the state of the Thrashers organization and the future of the franchise. By most accounts, there were about 250-300 fans in attendance.

Waddell fielded a few direct questions from some who were very disappointed that he was yet again forced to trade away another star player because he was unwilling to re-sign and stay. But from what I have heard of the event, most their seemed more than willing to express support for the only GM the team has ever had by giving him a giant pat on the back with “we’re behind ya, Don” and “Keep doing what you’re doing” type of comments.

Given that, a lot of people came away from the THM thinking that Waddell, Levenson and the rest of the Great Octocluster did indeed have the support and backing of the fan base in Thrasherville. I mean, if most of the crowd did not come to the meeting demanding a change in the front office, then surely the brain trust of the organization can take heart in that…right?

Umm…maybe, maybe not.

See, while it’s true Waddell and Levenson did not have to face the kind of angry mob that many thought they would, the real concern to me is that there were so few who were there to even take part in the event in the first place…250-300.

What does Philips Arena hold for a hockey game…18,000-plus? Uh-huh, and how many season ticket holders were there over a decade ago when the franchise came into the NHL? If I’m not mistaken, that number was 12,000 in March 1999… an NHL mandated minimum.

But only a couple hundred STHs were on hand to discuss the state of the franchise fresh off the most meaningful transaction in the club’s history. Which begs the question… just where did the rest of the season ticket holders go?

So that you don’t have to put too much cerebral activity to that question, I’ll answer it for you…they are indeed still around.  It’s just that those fans…fans that greatly outnumber those who remain…have simply stopped pulling out their wallets to shell out thousands of dollars a season for a product that they have completely and totally lost faith in.

Oh, they haven’t lost faith in the Thrashers or NHL hockey in this community per se. But they have lost faith in the current ownership and one other person, Don Waddell…the man that has promised them so much over the course of a decade-plus, but has delivered on so little.

What should be Don Waddell's fate at the end of the season?

  • Keep him as GM. He's doing a fine job so far! (1%, 1 Votes)
  • Fire him! The record speaks for itself! (25%, 37 Votes)
  • Keep him as EVP but take GM from his title (18%, 26 Votes)
  • What do you mean "at the end of the season"...FIRE HIM NOW! (56%, 82 Votes)

Total Voters: 146

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And these people are not coming back, or at least not willing to become season ticket holders again, until there is a change…and I’m talkin’ a serious change…coming from this Thrashers organization. They will not give this team any more of their hard earned dollars unless and until the Spirit Group shows the intellectual fortitude…the intestinal fortitude…and the testicular fortitude…required to actually part ways with Don Waddell and set this franchise on a different course.

Now, we can sit here and argue about “this trade” and “that signing” and “this player not re-signing” as reasons why the Waddell-era of the Thrashers has or hasn’t been a complete failure until we’re all blue in the face. But there are two cold-hard facts here that simply cannot be ignored.

One: The lack of success. Their overall record going into today’s game is 301-396-63-45. That’s a points winning percentage of .441. In the last two seasons, both ending with 76 points, that PW% has been .463. Right now, they are once again a sub- .500 hockey team. Nine complete seasons, seven with losing records, one playoff showing and zero post-season wins. And as the Thrashers continue to slide closer and closer to the land of lotteryville, it is clear we are really no closer to that first playoff victory than we were three years ago following the four-game sweep at the hands of the Rangers.

Second: The vast expanses of empty seats in Philips Arena on any given night. Take last Friday for example…a Friday night game in March. The team in the middle of a “March to the Playoffs’…and the building wasn’t full. Officially they say 15,000 +, but there were maybe 12,000 in the house.

And don’t even get me started on what weeknight attendance is like. Simply put, this is nothing short of embarrassing, folks. But it is also the most damning evidence pointing to the fact that the vast majority of potential paying customers have 100% totally rejected what Waddell and the Octocluster are selling.

So again I will say, this organization simply must change course and do it now. Not with just new players, or a new “thinking” of how to construct a team…not with just a new coach, as that has been tried before….not just with a new season campaign slogan or lower ticket prices, although that would be a good start as well…and not with new promises coming from the same source.

No…this organization needs a change in the fundamental foundation of it’s very existence. And that change can only come from the general manger’s office.

If the Thrashers ownership do not finally and once and for all move to make such a change…then those 250-300 season ticket holders that bothered to show up on February 6 will be all the Thrashers sales and marketing department can ever hope to collect revenue from on a season ticket basis.

And pretty soon…they’ll also be the only people showing up to the games at all.

Classy Way To Say Good-Bye

We here in Thrasherville are well accustomed to seeing players leave for other teams. Many times, we also have to endure a backhanded slap from them on their way out the door…a “it’s nice to play in a real hockey town”, or “it’ll be nice to play in front of so many fans each night” is not uncommon.

Certainly we are not alone in this, as many fans of all sports have felt the stinging rebuke of a departing athlete. But here is a case where the direct opposite occurred.

The New Orleans Saints, as you may have heard, recently won the Super Bowl…something many thought was as likely as the Thrashers winning a Stanley Cup. (And hey, it only took the Saints organization four and a half decades to do. So, using that as a measuring stick, we are about a quarter of the way there).

Anyway… recently, the NFL began their free agent signing season and, much like in the NHL, many players found new employers. One such player, linebacker Scott Fujita, left New Orleans to go play for the Cleveland Browns.

How did he depart Louisiana? Well, he gave the community a big virtual hug by donating half of his Super Bowl winnings to charity. Half of his generous gift went to the post-Katrina coastal restoration project in New Orleans and the other half to the relief efforts underway in earthquake-ravage Haiti.

“The people of this city and region have been so good to me and my family that we just felt strongly about doing something to protect the city we have come to love so much”, Fujita explains. “And helping on the coastal issues has been on the back of my mind since I first got here”.

Now that is a classy way to say good-bye. The sports world needs more people like that.

Quotes of the Week

“I think they were a little sharper, wanted it a little more” – John Anderson after last Saturday’s loss in Tampa Bay.

“The power play and the penalty kill are not doing a good job right now. It’s the difference in the game and being in playoff position or not” – John Anderson after the 4-0 loss to Carolina last Sunday.

“We’re not out of it. We’ve still got some games left but we’ve got to start putting some wins together instead of losses” – Chris Thorburn after the 2-1 loss to Nashville on Tuesday.

“I don’t think we were ready to play the first period and a half” – Nik Antropov after the 2-1 loss in Columbus on Thursday.

“This was a huge game for us. We knew how big of a game it was and we didn’t perform how we wanted to. It’s definitely deflating” – Jim Slater after the 5-2 loss to the Rangers Friday.

106 comments Add your comment

Wayne stuck in AL

March 14th, 2010
8:16 pm

“Tickets distributed” (calling it “attendance” with this franchise would be a joke) was announced as 15,914…Looked like 6,000 in the stands on TV

Brendan

March 14th, 2010
8:37 pm

Out of the past six games, the Thrashers have been outscored 22-8, with a record of 0-5-1, for one of a possible twelve (1/12) points. Marching towards the unemployment line.

Sharon

March 14th, 2010
8:37 pm

Rawhide as the 7th Fan… now that’s a great idea too :)

It would be awesome if Todd White presented the award.

Brendan

March 14th, 2010
8:51 pm

Okay, let’s try to guess who Waddell will blame this time. In the past, it’s been the “veteran leadership.” Ummn, who would that be? Kozlov barely plays. I guess the guy with the most Thrashers tenure is now Slater. Maybe he means him? Boulton has some longevity. Can’t blame Kovy. And, as I recall, we’re a BETTER TEAM without him. Eight goals in six games proves that. That’s like, way more than a goal a game, on average. And with a 37-year old career back up as our #1 goaltender, (who had tonight off,) one goal is all we should need. Every game should be a 1-0 shutout, unless I am misunderstanding the rules of hockey.

Okay, what if it isn’t veteran leadership or goaltending that has failed us. What then? Bad coaching? No, I’m pretty a bad coach is a symptom of a bad GM. No, I’m leaning towards … “bad officiating.” Yes, (looking around,) that should do. It’s the zebras’ fault that Atlanta has banked one-point in 12 games. Remember, we woke up this morning in 8th place. We’re not chasing anyone. We’re just hanging to our 8th spot. That’s what Waddell said during the intermission of the Nashville game.

Brendan

March 14th, 2010
8:55 pm

I tell you, honestly, that all the ideas have been good for the 7th man. But really, I applaud all the former STH’s as the 7th man. For if they force the changes that have been needed since 2002, they will have done a great service to the advancement of this hockey club in the coming years.

MB

March 14th, 2010
9:17 pm

EA and nhlfan, I appreciate your comments about the last THM for STHs. Did you come out of that meeting with the impression that the Waddell and ASG guys got the message that those in attendance were angry about the state of the franchise and the “leadership” of DW and the ASG? Or is it possible that the applause was misconstrued and they left thinking, “well, some of the guys who asked questions seem unhappy, but that cheering must mean that most people support us.” Because to be honest, when I heard about it all I could think was “how could ANY hockey fan cheer for these clowns given the state of the franchise?”

moriler, I understand your frustration with the downtown location and your points about where the majority of fans MAY live, but honestly I can’t think of any location in the suburbs that would be a better draw and be able to handle the traffic. I’ve lived over near Northlake Mall, in Cobb County, downtown, L5P, Brookhaven, and Buckhead, so I have a pretty fair awareness of traffic issues in different parts of town. I’ve driven between east Cobb, Roswell, and Gwinnett during rush hour, and it’s hellish (and that’s being kind). I can only imagine what it would be like with several thousand non-locals streaming in as well. While downtown isn’t ideal for everyone, it has the advantage of offering attendees the most and best transportation alternatives (Marta, two and a half (400) major expressways, and several other major arteries). More people from more areas can get there with relative ease than anywhere else because, surprise, it’s central, what with it being the city center from which the suburbs evolved.

LAC

March 14th, 2010
9:58 pm

Well Bill, Good Teams find ways to win… Bad teams do not… We are a BAD team… Sorry it is over.

EA

March 14th, 2010
10:22 pm

MB, good question. Quite honestly, I am not sure. DW probably saw what he wanted to see which was an overall pat on the back. As for me and the fans around me, that was not the case.

R. Stroz

March 14th, 2010
10:40 pm

First, and foremost, everyone should be in favor of the elderly couple winning the seventh man award. All couples should strive for their degree of commitment, compassion, and zest for life they exemplify.

Second, I enjoyed meeting Bob and Mrs. Bob as well as the “lurker” couple in the 200s.

Bob, glad to know you could hear the BULLHORN at ice level.

Rawhide

March 14th, 2010
11:12 pm

Rawhide, best blog of the year award (if the AJC gave them out) should go to you. Very well said sir.

Supes – Thank you…and on behalf of myself and Trixie, I’d like to accept this award….and thanks to all the little people out there who helped make this all happen. I’m so very happy!!!

Brendan – In response to your question at 3:19 pm earlier this afternoon…I would have to say that I have to agree with your April 2007 opinion. That is when I thought the change should have been made. I’ve opined here many times that I felt…and still do…that the 2007 debacle was primarily on DW. Not totally…but primarily.

Outside of that, I cannot say there is one true defining moment…it’s really been a death by a thousand needles, if you will.

Sherry Taylor – Very well put…and welcome to the frey!

HookyBob & Sharon - Thanks for the kind suggestion…but I really, really would love to see the Kiss Cam couple win it. I really cannot think of anyone more deserving, But again, thank you very much just the same.

And to that point, I want to thank the dozens of people…mostly “lurkers”… who approached me before the game to tell me they like the idea of the Kiss Cam couple winning the award. Nice to know so many other fans think of them in the same regards.

Wayne stuck in AL – From my vantage point high atop press row…there were certainly not 15,000 in the house. However, there were more there than I thought there’d be. Maybe 11,000…12,000…shrugs

stendek – (Or, the poster formerly known as “stendec”)…Trixie cleaned up your multiple post mess. You may now send her flowers in gratitude. :grin:

August

March 15th, 2010
12:09 am

Anyone thought about what the Season Finale is going to be like this year when there’s 14,000 Pens fans in attendance compared to about 2,000 Thrashers fans? Will there be enough Thrashers fans there for the “Jersey Off Our Back” ceremony?

I’m sure there would have been if we had only built the arena in Alpharetta instead of downtown. :roll:

Lee

March 15th, 2010
6:49 am

I feel really bad for the elderly fans that come here. They probably have Alzheimers and can’t remember that the Thrashers have lost 6 straight.

HonkyTonkHero

March 15th, 2010
7:55 am

Forgive me if I am mistaken but isnt there a minor league hockey team in Duluth? I’ve been to a few of their games and the attendance was on the same ratio as the Thrashers even on buy one get one free nights. I don’t think location is the issue here. There are hockey fans everywhere and the elitist folks in the northern burbs need to just deal with the decision to live in a craptacular traffc filled area. Oh yea…you can stop your whining when you decide to let Marta expand a rail line into “your backyard”. Till then…enjoy being part of the red line on the GA Navigator website.

On another note…I was a STH last year and decided to do a Kovy and wait this season. Well…glad I did. I have been to just as many games as I did last year and only paid for 2 tickets this season. When we have new ownership and a new GM I will start supporting the team with my $$. I seriously hope that doesnt come too late and we lose our NHL team.

World Be Free

March 15th, 2010
8:04 am

Hey folks, back from Spring Training 2010-Jason Heyward is a monster, Freddie Freeman not far behind. George Bush Sr. was at Saturday’s game in Disney.

Speaking of fantasy land, made it back last night to see the game. I was hoping Bogo was sitting for the way he was playing, not his poor little hand. Hope Don is working on a new contract for Max, he and Nik are our bext players right now.

Big cheers for Chelios, he doesn’t look bad out there. Not great, but he’s giving the effort which is more than I can say for others. Todd White threw body checks – I could not believe it! I think he’s trying to shed the Charmin label.

DWTOO

March 15th, 2010
8:32 am

IMHO the defining moment of this franchise was the Heatley crash. Since that time there appears to be a curse on this organization. Everything has just gone south since that time.

The couple older than us certainly deserves the 7th man award. They show up hell or high water. Always a smile. Great folks.

Rawhide

March 15th, 2010
8:54 am

IMHO the defining moment of this franchise was the Heatley crash. Since that time there appears to be a curse on this organization. Everything has just gone south since that time.

DWTOO – Certainly a worthy considertaion, that’s for sure. I thought about that response too.

However, if I remove the “emotional” aspect of that horrific event…I find myself thinking “Well, as bad as that was…and as much as it set this franchise back…it was 6-1/2 years ago”. And to that measure, DW and the Thrashers have had time to recover from it.

Heck, 6-1/2 years is 1-1/2 years longer than a 5-year plan.

DWTOO

March 15th, 2010
9:02 am

And since we do remember folks on this blog RIP Peter Graves. Although I’ll remember him as Agent Phelps (along with the sexy Barbara Baines) it’s Clarence Over where he made his mark. Think I’ll watch Airplane today.

“Ever watch gladiator movies Billy?”

DB

March 15th, 2010
9:04 am

Getting to Roswell would be a bigger cluster than downtown. Seems like people forget that the ASG is on the hook for paying the bonds for condtruction for Philips as well so any thoughts about moving to another location are pretty much an exercise in futility. From the standpoint of available modes of transportation, downtown makes the most sense. What kills that idea is the ineptness of MARTA. Those clowns make the ASG clowns look like amatuers.

Rawhide

March 15th, 2010
9:08 am

“Do you like to hang out in gymnasiums, Joey”?

LOL!!! I watched Airplane w/ the boys just a week a go…must have been the 1,278th time I’ve seen it and I still crack up. I was telling the tax-exemptions that what made that movie so damn funny was actors like Peter Graves, Llyod Bridges, Robert Stack and Leslie Nelson were all serious dramatic actors. Seeing them in those roles just made it all the more hysterical.

Pittsburgh Pirate Fan

March 15th, 2010
9:14 am

Fire Waddell, why is this so complicated?
How much linger do we have to put up with this garbage?

Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit drinking.

Russian

March 15th, 2010
9:24 am

I think it is time to see a Lottery pick. WE can be 3-d from bottom. Oliers and Toronto will 1 and 2-d.
We have lots of UFA and we can see a draft picks.
I hope whole Managment and Coaches staff will change for next season.

Nikita

March 15th, 2010
9:35 am

*What kills that idea is the ineptness of MARTA.*
What do you mean, “kills that idea?” You do realize that thousands and thousands of people are using MARTA right now, right? That it’s one of the nation’s bigger public transportation systems despite not having an appropriate level of funding?

And it can handle a Thrashers game with no problem. It does all the time, in fact. Hell, it survives and thrives serving the Peachtree Road Race crowd (50-100k people, all on the same schedule).

Scotty

March 15th, 2010
9:52 am

“I’ll take Hamm on five, hold the Mayo”!

Tears for Beers

March 15th, 2010
10:42 am

Somewhere, Peter Graves is smiling from that big Turkish Prison in the Sky.

sharongilo

March 15th, 2010
10:45 am

I just happened by from a google alert … how sweet about the couple!

http://www.ashortguidetoahappymarriage.com

DB

March 15th, 2010
10:49 am

Nikita,

My first dozen games I took MARTA. AFTER being stranded on the platform for an average of 30 minutes per game before the trained arrived, plus another 30+ minute ride until I hit my car pertty much killed the viability of me taking MARTA. MARTA seems to adjust its schedule for other sporting events, just not hockey. I understand the limitations due to funding, but their first answer is to cut service, a source of revenue. The issues are way too complex for me to address adequately on this forum (as well as this not being the proper place). To me, downtown makes the best sense for a location.

Pittsburgh Pirate Fan

March 15th, 2010
11:02 am

If we tank the season we will get a high pick AND Waddell will be gone.
Carolina is right behind us in the standings?

Why is this so difficult? WHY WHY WHY?

Christoph Schubert

March 15th, 2010
11:39 am

“Joey, sind sie je in einem Türkischen gefängnis gewesen?”

AtlantaFlamesFan

March 15th, 2010
11:41 am

I live in Marietta. Zip down 75 and am at Philips in 25 minutes. I would hate to battle 285 trying to get to Doraville. Roswell, Alpharetta, Gwinett traffic would be a worse disaster. Location is not the problem. WIN and the fans will come.

Hockey Coach

March 15th, 2010
11:41 am

Atlanta does not need to tank the rest of the season. Their lack of talent, worthless Coach with the GT high school football type offense, will ensure the 2nd worse record in the NHL this year.

Dwayne

March 15th, 2010
11:42 am

Tell me Joey, have you ever seen a grown man naked?

Badger Bob

March 15th, 2010
11:44 am

Rawhide, great idea for the seventh man award! There are nights when my blood is boiling, wanting to rip the arms off one of our uninspired head-up-their-butt players and beat them to death with them… and then the Kiss Cam shows the Queen of England and her elegant prince, and my anger subsides, I crack a grin and I start clapping, remembering that there are things more important in life than how badly screwed up this organization is. Find them and crown them!

I’ve posted before an indifference to firing Waddell now that RD is in town. Six inexplicably poor games have changed my mind – FIRE DW NOW!! And Sage, piss off with the inevitable “Told you so”. You were remarkably (and refreshingly) silent when we went 4-0-2, so just stay that way.

I will not be renewing my season tix – perhaps being a Club level guy they’ll care when I tell them Octocluster and DW are the reason… then again, they probably won’t ask or listen.

Red Light

March 15th, 2010
11:48 am

The original, and favored arena location, for the arena was at the junction of 400 and I-285. Ted Turner overruled the others, effectively saying that if you want my money the new arena has to be downtown. Bygones.

Badger Bob

March 15th, 2010
11:49 am

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue

Red Light

March 15th, 2010
11:50 am

Someone needs to tell the “old seventh man” to take off his hat indoors. Who does he think he is, Punch Imlach?

Smoothie

March 15th, 2010
11:54 am

Badger Bob – hammer, nail, head. That’s all the ASG cares about: corporate sponsorship, club suites and club seat sales. That’s the revenue that makes up the majority of their payroll. Having Sage hit us over the head with all that other nonsense is an insult to the intelligence of human-kind. To think the regular STH have any real sway or influence whatsoever is incredibly short-sighted and stupid. As if paying $22 / seat for a full season is really keeping Don Waddell employed. He tells us to pick up an Economics book and I guffaw loudly as I have taken 3 classes in Economics and know full well that 5,000 STH (if it’s even that high) paying for 41 seats at an average price of $45 is really not that significant in the scheme of things. The ebb of STH is completely mitigated as long as they keep selling out suites and club seats to corporate big whigs and business entrepreneurs in Atlanta.

Red Light

March 15th, 2010
12:07 pm

Smoothie: You’re right on, except for the fact that sponsorship, club seats and suites sales are at an all-time low, which mirrors the rest of the building. Season ticket sales are a vital part of revenues for any NHL team that doesn’t have a good local TV/radio contract and the Thrashers can ill afford another downturn in ST renewals.

Badger Bob

March 15th, 2010
12:15 pm

Thx, Smoothie, and you are right about the dropoff, Red Light. When we first moved over to Club seats 3 years ago, they were probably 80% sold (based on the number of potential locations they showed us). Now, there’s no way that number is over 50%, and dropping steadily. I hope ASG notices, but even more so I hope the Atlanta equivalent of Ted Leonsis notices and gets this team away from The Octo.

Smoothie

March 15th, 2010
12:26 pm

Red Light – I reckon they are, but I can’t imagine normal, run of the mill STH ticket revenues are any higher than $9 or $10 M for this season. We know that for the last several years the ASG has been losing an avg of $12 – $15 M per season. With an average P/R of between $44 and $46 M, they must have had at a minimum between $15 – $20 M in corporate sales.

I would surmise that at their peak, corporate sales accounted for an avg of $25 – $30 M per season. Chances are, corporate sales are twice as lucrative than just ordinary ticket sales. Perhaps the ASG is okay with the status quo as the losses they incur operating the Thrashers help them avoid paying exorbitant Corporate Income taxes. Don Waddell’s incompetence may be the key to their business model until Belkin can be ousted, new investors brought in and the owndership squabble settled once and for all.

Perhaps the operating loss protection from Corporate taxes has just been a happy accident and by-product of the whole ownership fiasco and then I am giving them too much credit for keeping Waddell to simply meet their short-term business objectives. But I just don’t see how the further “boycotting” of games is going to make any difference in their decision-making at this point if they are okay with losing $70 – $75 M over 5 years WITH Waddell at the helm. Apparently, they were stupid enough to think Bernie Mullins was the problem and not someone like Waddell. Perhaps Bernie was telling them the truth and they didn’t like hearing it.

World Be Free

March 15th, 2010
12:29 pm

Are we forgetting tomorrow night? The Thrasher fans’ favorite team (and fans) to hate comes to town, The Buffalo Sabres.

Carlonia is in our rear view mirror. Whohda thunk that earlier this season? The Thrash started strong and the Canes forgot to show up for the first 2 mos of the season.

I come from Kennesaw; I have taken MARTA from the Holmes station a few times. Very interesting ride to say the least. I do take MARTA from Perimeter to Tech games.

Can we get a train in Cobb County please? Sorry, it only makes sense which is why it will never happen!

Midfield

March 15th, 2010
12:40 pm

I heard Eliott stating that this losing streak is the direct result of Kane being injured and off the line-up. Which is probably true – at least to a degree. But think about this. How could it come to this? The entire fate of this franchise supposedly rests on the shoulders of an 18-year-old rookie, who had n’t even known if he would play past the first 9 games of the season. Are you kidding me?

jimbo

March 15th, 2010
12:41 pm

Rawhide: I seem to recall that in the first year of this franchise we set an NHL record for attendance by a “new team”. In any event, the support was there. Donnie Brilliance has eroded it over the past ten years with his inability to recognize talent, keep what we draft or sign UFAs. It’s amazing that someone with his results in any business would still be around. And, John Anderson has the worse “system” that I have ever seen. Many posters called attention to its lack of a defensive component and the fact that once teams starting playing tighter that we’d have nothing to fall back on. And, we were all right. And, can anyone stay awake when he speaks. His lack of a motivational spark has to be one of the reasons that we are the poorest first period team in the NHL. Fire Donnie and Johnnie RIGHT NOW!

World Be Free

March 15th, 2010
12:49 pm

Midfield-I agree with the “Kane effect” to a point. But after one thing I noticed during the losing streak, is that virtually nobody is crashing the next. Antropov and Little spent a fair amount of time in the crease yesterday, but nobody else is near the net. You can’t score goals from the boards.

Does this mean Kane will be the next captain?

Smoothie-nice piece

Smoothie

March 15th, 2010
12:55 pm

Evander Kane is certainly a vital cog of our team but I don’t know if you can blame the 6 game streak on his absence alone. JA’s decision-making, especially when it comes to line-ups etc, must get a lot of the blame IMHO. But keep this in mind, in the last 6 games, the Thrashers have allowed 8 PPG. Obviously, not having Kane as an option on the PK is putting too much responsibility in the hands of Slater, Army and White. Although I think White has been our best PK’er over the last 10 games or so. To blame it on Kane is a bit short-sighted as we gave up 5 PPG with Kane in the line-up during the previous 4 game stretch in which we went 3 – 0 – 1. The difference? We scored 4 PPG of our own.

Our lackluster — actually that’s a bit generous — PP has been absolutely killing us. Our PP is our “penalty killer” when you get right down to it. In the last 16 games (since the 1/2 way mark) in which we have scored only 2 goals or fewer, we have a mere 4 PPG scored. Our opponents have tallied a whopping 18 PPG against us and that stat alone pretty much explains our record of 2 – 11 – 3 in those 16 games.

In the other 11 games in which they have scored 3 goals or more, we have seen the Thrashers average 4 goals per game and score 8 PPG versus 7 PPG allowed. In that 11 games, the Thrashers record is 8 – 1 – 2. Obviously, avoiding dumb penalties and scoring their share of PPG has been a consistent key to any success they have enjoyed. Recently, we have had no success with either.

Smoothie

March 15th, 2010
12:59 pm

WBF – thanks. Just tryin’ to “keep it real”…fair and balanced that is.

Pittsburgh Pirate Fan

March 15th, 2010
1:02 pm

Gotta wipe the slate clean-
Fire Waddell, Anderson and most of the coaching staff and make make RANDY CUNNEYWORTH the head coach.

Don’t fire Cunney

ben

March 15th, 2010
1:12 pm

On Busses and trains, they’ll happen eventually. I write that knowing full well MARTA slashed bus service. I think Elliot, a bright guy, knows where his bread is buttered. That’s why he goes on and on about Kane. Brendan, I respectfully think the crash of this franchise could be dated to the aftermath of the Snyder Crash or to the non-resigning of Marc Savard. I even wonder if the orginal hiring of Waddell had more to do with his minor league GMing experience and Turner sold the team before Schiller could fire him?

In other words, I question if Waddell was supposed to be here at this point in the original plan. We may never know. Don alluded to a book he’d write after he left. I would love to read that book to get his take on how he drove a multi-million dollar enterprise into the ground, acquired excellent scorers only to see them walk, and kept getting all these chances to keep doi8ng it over and over.

Wannago

March 15th, 2010
1:14 pm

I would like thank both the ASG & Don Wad for icing such a piss poor team that I was able to purchase 5 tickets for less than $100 total and sat section 108 row G. Great view

Rawhide

March 15th, 2010
1:27 pm

Midfield, WBF & Smoothie – I happened across Evander Kane outside of the locker room before yesterday’s game. Good news is that he no longer needs to use a crutch, but he’s still wearing the boot. You could just see it in the kid’s eyes that having to sit out is just killin’ him and he wants back out there terribly.

I asked him how he was feeling and he said, “OK, I guess…getting better”.

I just felt awful for him…he wants to play so bad.

R. Stroz

March 15th, 2010
1:37 pm

100th (that’s for FIF)