Thrashers not getting their kicks on Route 66

What a difference a week makes. Last Friday we in Thrasherville were riding a high…the team had just thumped the Islanders 6-3, they were sitting in eighth place in the east with 66 points and they had the playoffs within their grasp.

Keep the foot on the throttle, it was thought, and the playoffs are just around the corner.

Today…well, they are still stuck on Route 66 after dropping four consecutive games by the combined score of 14-4. As such, they now tied with the Tampa Bay Lightning for 10th/11th place in the conference…sitting only two points away from 13th.

If they continue traveling on Route 66, they will more than likely run smack dab into downtown Lotteryville by the time we fight Monday morning traffic.

Now, regarding last night’s latest Thrashers disappointment…once again, John Anderson’s O-fense looked completely disorganized and discombobulated. It was as if they had just met each other Thursday morning and were still in the process of getting to know each other. Really, the only player that could be excused for this maybe is Slava Kozlov, who was making his first appearance since February 6. For his efforts, he got an assist on Johnny Odya’s goal and was a +1 for the night.

But I think Nik Antropov summed it up best when he said, “I don’t think we were ready to play for the first period and a half”.

Really…I mean….seriously? “Were not ready to play”?

This was ONLY game number 66…there’s that number again…you’re playoff chances are in the process of circling the drain…the time to make up the difference is growing shorter and shorter by the day…and you’re playing one of the few teams left on the schedule with fewer points than do the Thrashers. But the team was “not ready to play”???

sigh…

Johan Hedberg got start number 32 last night against the CBJs and took the loss. He’s now 16-12-5 but his GAA was lowered to 2.63. In stopping 19 of 21 shots he now has a .914 SV%. Uh-huh, you saw that correctly…the Thrashers’ held an opponent to just 21 SOG. Anytime they do that, they should be expected to win.

Of the two goals Moose was beaten on…the first one was scored by R.J. “I would like to have an” Umberger as his shot took an unfortunate deflection off Chris Chelios’ stick. It happened while Nik Antropov sat in the box for interference. The second resulted after Chelios was unable to recover from being caught too far up on the pinch. Kristian Huselius notched number 18 on the season on that one.

And so, while others like Montreal and Boston seem to have successful programmed in the correct coordinates in their playoff GPS systems…and we in Thrasherville continue to watch the team spin in circles on Route 66 as the rest of the NHL traffic speeds by… one has to wonder if this year the Great Octocluster finally decides that they have seen this scenery for far too long and are tired of circling the same block over and over with the same driver at the wheel.

Maybe, just maybe, this will be the time that they tell Don Waddell to pull over at the next gas station and…while he is busy asking the attendant for direction…they pull out and leave him there.

155 comments Add your comment

moriler

March 12th, 2010
10:00 am

Mentioned this in the last one, but want to re-post it here (updated with last night’s games) for more useful commentary:

http://sporkhack.com/playoffs.html

This projection doesn’t paint any pretty pictures. The Thrashers are out of ‘inherent advantages’ — first we had games in hand over Montreal, and then we blew those. Then we had a bunch of home games, and those aren’t enough to save us anymore.

The only way to make the playoffs at this point is to take the one positive we have left (most home games) and try to ride it as hard as we can — and hope that Boston flounders with Savard out. That’s enough to get us into a first-round matchup vs. the Capitals.

That’s about it, really. We had the chance to play “as good as” everyone else and win — now we have to go on a tear.

Saddam Hussein

March 12th, 2010
10:01 am

If I can face down the Americans, surely the Thrashers can make the playoffs!

Flat Line

March 12th, 2010
10:02 am

Interesting to see if JA calls on Hedberg again tonight. With no morning skate, we probably won’t hear until just before game time. The reason I bring it up is that Moose is 6-0-2 in his last eight games vs. the Rangers. Could this be called an elimination game if it ends in regulation? I know neither team will make the playoffs, but the team that comes away with 2 points has a heart beat while the other will be Flat Lined!

Badger Bob

March 12th, 2010
10:09 am

“Chelios was unable to recover from being caught too far up on the pinch”. Unable? Don’t you mean unwilling? As I ranted on the previous blog, he failed to pick up the number 3 OR number 4 Blue Jacket on the break. The game winning goal scorer skated past him AFTER the Blue Jackets had their 2 on 1.

If JA’s aggresive system causes a wiley veteran to make bone-headed plays, then there certainly is cause for concern over whether his system can ever work in the NHL.

Barry

March 12th, 2010
10:11 am

Go ahead and ask Anderson to stop by and get the team snacks while you’re at it and leave him behind as well. I’ve given Anderson every benefit of the doubt but two years and we are still fighting for winning the draft lottery. The fact that this team’s powerplay has been struggling since December also tells me it’s time for a new NHL head coach that knows how to get this team scoring on the powerplay. Thrashers really need an NHL coach that will get this team playing like an NHL team. Hartley was past his time and his old ideas didn’t work. Anderson is still thinking like an AHL coach but the NHL is a totally different game. Thrashers need a current NHL coach NOW! I just think it’s sad when a team that’s having aspirations to make the playoffs, but goes on a 4 game losing streak. What’s even worse is they have only scored 4 goals during that span. What has happened to the offense? Where is the net presence? I’m tired of the skate across the blueline and pull up play. Drive the damn net for crying out loud! This team is clueless right now of offense. They are getting back into old habits of perimeter shots with nobody in front of the crease, so it’s one and done. Thrashers aren’t making the playoffs unless they go like 13-4 or something ridiculous.

Brad "Beast" McCrimmon

March 12th, 2010
10:13 am

Even I can beat Chelios in a race from goal line to goal line!

j nes

March 12th, 2010
10:14 am

I am sick of hearing/reading excuses like “we aren’t getting the bounces” or “things aren’t going our way.” To quote NFL coach Dick Juron, “It the wind ain’t blowin, row!”

Thrashers Season Ticket Salesman

March 12th, 2010
10:16 am

How’d you like to have my job?

Dancing with the Stars

March 12th, 2010
10:18 am

Thinking of pairing Chelios with Gabourey Sidibe!

Bob

March 12th, 2010
10:39 am

“Maybe, just maybe, this will be the time that they tell Don Waddell to pull over at the next gas station and…while he is busy asking the attendant for direction…they pull out and leave him there.”

Rumor is that Waddell’s contract is up at the end of this year. So there’s that hope.

Brendan, put me down for never on your poll re. when Waddell is re-signed. Instead I see a April 12th press conference announcing he’s been let go as GM. That’s my pipedream and I’m stickin to it.

Rawhide

March 12th, 2010
10:42 am

Bob – We still gonna see ya at the club section bar at 7:15 tonight?

rob

March 12th, 2010
10:47 am

Ya’ll left me on the last blog while I was writing, now I know how Chelios felt last night!

Chelios showed the youngsters how to quit on a play. Wonderful planning, hope all those who thought this was a wonderful idea now see the utter futility there. Now he can’t even be taken seriously as a mentor after that game so we have killed 2 birds with 1 stone. WTF is wrong with these people and their BONE HEADED non hockey ideas!!!! You traded for Artyukin at 6-6 250 WITH speed, and Kozlov is your choice instead? Kane, you hardest working player at 18 years old is gone and you think Kozlov is the right choice? This team CAN play and CAN win, they have shown that I think. They lack direction, motivation, and a goalie. Taking a shot at the playoffs this year and DELIBERATELY TANKING it through mismanagement and incompetent personnel at the gm and coaching spot. The FANS thank you for this. Anderson should be fired NOW, not at the end of the season. They need to give Antropov the C, and find a way to win next season in the hopes of getting the young guys excited and thinking about staying here. F@#^ you DW and you too JA for this nonsense. No wonder no one wants to stay here you found a way to make us look bad even when we had a chance! Hey ASG LLC, does that stand for Another Season Gone Lacking Leadership and Commitment? Stupid A$$E$! I feel sorry for the players who are laboring here under the incompetence that runs this organization.

Scott

March 12th, 2010
10:47 am

I’m trying to stay positive, and I personally like John Anderson, and I freely admit that I m not a keen evaluator of NHL talent, but…
REALLY? – you sit Marty Reasoner and dress Todd White! How can that happen. What am I missing, why is #12 getting ice time? Even more baffling, why do I see him on the Power Play?

moriler

March 12th, 2010
10:49 am

I think Reasoner is not 100% and that’s why he sat.

Wannago

March 12th, 2010
10:50 am

The Trashers need to play with the urgency shown in the last 2 minutes and they must play that way the entire game.

Rawhide

March 12th, 2010
10:50 am

rob – Yeah…my bad. I gave absolutely no Ranallo Warning.

Scott – Reasoner out and White in? scratching head … no, you got me there.

J.B.

March 12th, 2010
10:52 am

Marty got clocked pretty bad the other night. I’m sure he’s recovering from that. It probably would have been an exhibit in the current headshot debate if it hadn’t been overshadowed by Cooke’s BLATANT headshot I think on the same night.

rob

March 12th, 2010
10:53 am

As much as I would like to see DW gone, can you see any other GM coming here and dealing with this group of idiots? If DW was any kind of man, he would be so embarrassed by this and the legacy he hasn’t created that he would quit now.
I still hold a slight hope that the guys can win but we will see if DW/JA find another way to keep it from happening again.
Anyone know if/how long Dudley is under contract?

Badger Bob

March 12th, 2010
10:54 am

Rawhide, in the words of Regina King “No, it’s not funny, but I’m going to keep drinking until it is”. I’ll be doing my pre-game warm up at the Club bar to make this all more tolerable…

Bob

March 12th, 2010
10:56 am

Rawhide, absotutely. Must get lubed up before watching another debacle (although we usually play the Blue Skirts well, so hopeful for a good game!)

moriler

March 12th, 2010
10:56 am

Oh, and this is probably speculation: White is a centerman and Arthyukin isn’t — someone had to take Reasoner’s place down the middle.

Red Light

March 12th, 2010
10:57 am

“My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.” Hedley Lamarr

It’s time to re-stock the organization with former NHL players who know how to win.

General Manager
Lorne Henning is the Vice President of Player Personnel & Assistant General Manager for Vancouver. Henning first joined the Canucks organization as a Professional Scout bringing 28 years of professional playing and coaching experience at the NHL level and four Stanley Cup Championship rings. In his current role, Henning works closely with Mike Gillis on all player evaluations, trades and free agent signings. Additionally, he is responsible for the club’s professional scouting in North America and Europe and acts as the primary liaison between the Canucks minor league affiliates.

Assistant GM/Director of Player Personnel
Doug Risebrough, former GM with the Wild, currently a pro scout for the Rangers

Head Coaching Candidates
Joey Mullen, current assistant for Philadelphia
Scott Stevens, current assistant for New Jersey
Craig Ramsey, current assistant for Boston
Tom Renney, current assistant for Edmonton

Assistant Coaches
Kelly Buchberger
Gord Murphy

Goalie Coach
Curtis Joseph

Bob

March 12th, 2010
11:06 am

Red Light bringing the A game today, nice work, can you forward that to the Spirit Squad asap?

rob with the excellent rant above as well.

Good golly, you men have me fired up for a good ol Friday night hockey game. Think I’m going to be doing some clock watching all day.

moriler

March 12th, 2010
11:07 am

Don’t want any assistant coaches whose teams are on the bubble or where Edmonton is. That leaves Stevens, and good luck ever prying him away from the NJ organization, head coaching opportunity or not.

Badger Bob

March 12th, 2010
11:07 am

Red Light, that’s a good list except for Risebrough, for two reasons. One, the best part of our management, RD, already holds that job and should be the only one to remain. Two, Risebrough single-handedly turned the Flames from a powerhouse in the late eighties into a non-playoff team in the 90s. I don’t care what he’s done since – anyone who trades away Doug Gilmour, Jamie Macoun, Ric Nattress, Kent Manderville and Rick Wamsley for Gary Leeman, Alexander Godynyuk, Jeff Reese, Michel Petit and Craig Berube is FAR stupider than even DW.

Otherwise, YES, let’s purge this group NOW!

Matt

March 12th, 2010
11:13 am

Interest in this woebegone franchise is fading…fading…fading.

How in the world can the Thrashers annihilate the Isles, look so good passing the puck and playing with energy and hustle and then lay four straight eggs?

God, I am frustrated with this franchise. Will it ever change? A friend of mine in Minnesota talks about the discontent that’s emerging with the fans of that franchise, but I told him he has no clue how good he has it, recent Wild struggles aside.

Red Light

March 12th, 2010
11:18 am

You mean the same Dudley that brought us all the Euros during the past month? That’s why I have Risebrough as the assistant rather than the final decision maker. Bring me the North Americans, organizationally and on the ice!

rob

March 12th, 2010
11:24 am

Craig Ramsey would be an awesome choice, being he was such a complete 2way player for Buffalo for a long time. He would probably hold the forwards accountable for getting back and developing a good defensive philosophy. I like it. Means it won’t happen, but I like it non the less. Offensive minded coaching like JA might make for some excitement, but it is showing it won’t work, and for some reason he can’t get this team on the same page night after night. I take that to mean he doesn’t have the respect or attention of the players.

Get The Puck Out

March 12th, 2010
11:24 am

I’m not one to advocate losing, but if it would get DW fired let’s start losing tonight.

Rawhide

March 12th, 2010
11:27 am

GTPU – Not to pick at nits with ya…but if lack of success was a criteria for the Great Octocluster to fire Waddell, wouldn’t he have been fired by now?

Get The Puck Out

March 12th, 2010
11:29 am

Wishful thinking i guess.

Rightshot

March 12th, 2010
11:29 am

Going into a commercial during the third period last nigh, Matt McConnell said, “The Thrashers are down and need a pair.”

Truer words have never been said.

LAC

March 12th, 2010
11:41 am

What happened to ” We are moving in the Right directgion” or Darrin’s favorite…

“MOVING FORWARD” One thing to beat a dead horse with those wornout phrases,
another to do it, we are sinking and moving forward should not be in the Atlanta Thrashers
vocabulary !

puckhead

March 12th, 2010
11:52 am

Player wise only – I don’t see how this team changes enough to beat tampa and carolina for second in the division next year. I would rather learn my wife wants a divorce than what is happening to the Thrash.

R. Stroz

March 12th, 2010
11:56 am

Don Waddell doesn’t know the difference between incremental progress and EXCREMENTAL PROGRESS.

How many more years of EXCREMENTAL PROGRESS can the fans endure?

rob

March 12th, 2010
11:56 am

Rawhide,
If you had to stay up late and rewatch that game I don’t blame you for no warning, and even if you had given it I was so irritated and long winded I probably would have missed it anyway! LOL Can’t believe how upset this has me, thank god I am not a STH or I believe I would have stroked out by this point! Thinking I will find one of those places that make bumper stickers and get ASG=NO HOCKEY and put it next to my Thrashers sticker. How those of you who have been here since the beginning get through this has got me. I mean, seriously. The only people who have to be left are the SERIOUS hockey die hards. I am not sad I have become a fan of the team, I enjoyed every game I went to this season and may take in a couple more and cheer for the guys as loud as I can, but this organization needs a serious enema to clean it out. It is a clear embarrassment to the NHL and not what they want people to think of when they come to see their 1st hockey game or give serious hockey fans who pay a lot of money and take a large time commitment to support.

Kevin

March 12th, 2010
11:58 am

The reality here Thrasher fans is that this team is NOT a playoff team. As much as you wanted Kovy gone, you got it and now you have a young team with no identity who cant score. Kovy was not going to be an answer past this year, but you cant win if you cant score. Defensively this team is still a sieve. Reality check, this team may lose the next 10 games, all against quality teams fighting for playoff spots. At that point we are back in the hunt for a top three pick that will bolt after his contract is up. Sound familiar? Time to fire everyone and start over. At least there would be hope in that.

Sage of Bluesland

March 12th, 2010
12:06 pm

But, remember folks, good ol’ Donny is a “classy” guy…

(Pardon me, but I just vomited in my mouth just a little bit).

Here’s to what I’ve prayed for since the early signs of the ruination of his first “Five-Year Plan”: the final month of his employment leading the hockey team I care about and somewhat follow (now).

He’s nothing but a bumbling, blustering fraud. That’s all he has EVER been. To even think otherwise is delusional.

rob

March 12th, 2010
12:07 pm

puckhead,
I have to hope that they sign a real #1 goalie in the off season. Take that into consideration with all of our 1 goal losses and it has to amount to more wins. Get rid of the distractions Kovy brought, and the ones Kozlov continues to bring, get a real commitment to a player stepping up as the CAPTAIN ( I think Antropov continues to be the one they need there) and I like what could happen next year. I just can’t wrap my head around the chance that they have/had this year that they pissed away.

Bob

March 12th, 2010
12:20 pm

Rawhide, we had this discussion last year, but what about this year? Do you want to the guys to finish strong, yet out of the playoffs, or would you prefer to see them continue circling the drain here so we can have a greater hope of the Spirit waking up and bringing in a quality GM and so we have a better draft pick as a reward? This club is going to have to blown up anyway, might as well tank, get rid of DW, get a top 5 prospect and let the new GM spend all that money come July 1st to build us a nice club for next year.

There’s some nice pieces in place here, guys. The right GM could come in and spend that $15m or so in free agency and make us competitive next year. Quality UFA goalie, quality 2nd line center, and quality top line LW, re-sign Kubina, and this club could compete next year. $15m should be enough to fill those 4 spots, no?

Don Waddell

March 12th, 2010
12:29 pm

I’m a big fan of excremental progress that’s why I signed Charmin.

Nikita

March 12th, 2010
12:31 pm

I’m getting a little annoyed by all the naysaying. Yep, we’re in a bad situation here. But how do we plan to end this season, and what kind of fans are we?

Also, I remain fine with Anderson. He has now coached roughly one season, and with a ragtag squad that is only partially of his choosing. Fire him, fine, but who are you going to get into this sitaution who’s better equipped to deal with it?

As to other comments above:

1. White played because Reasoner’s banged up. And he did o.k.
2. Goaltending will sink us. All other things aside, and there are plenty of things I’m not thrilled about, Moose has been subpar for the last few games and Pavelec has been subpar for the entire season.
3. I wasn’t thrilled to see Bogosian moved up in his pairings yesterday, but he showed some signs of playing like he used to. Here’s hoping he keeps it up.
4. Nice banging last night. Too bad it wasn’t enough.

moriler

March 12th, 2010
12:31 pm

Players don’t tank, ever, so don’t bother there. Clubs that finish circling the drain don’t get the option to sign free agents. We already have enough problems; we need to show that the players we have now are “almost” enough and we only need a few pieces.

If Don was going to be fired due to lack of results, it would’ve happened long ago. I’m not worried about Don right now — it’s obvious Rick Dudley is calling the shots as far as player acquisition/etc. is concerned now. I’m more worried about what it’s going to take to get the players themselves playing.

If it wasn’t obvious, we have enough talent to have beaten the last 4 teams we played. But we came out and shat on ourselves without any significant effort. Motivating players is Anderson’s job, but the players themselves must share the responsibility and actually TRY. When our guys try, we blow out the teams we’re supposed to beat. When they loaf, we don’t. I see a lot of guys who are basically solid players making poor decisions on the ice at exactly the wrong time. Don’t know how to fix that.

That’s the problem right now. And just like last time I brought this up, I can’t see in the locker room; I can’t see the morning skates and practices. I don’t know who’s got a clue and who’s just scraping by.

Midield

March 12th, 2010
12:34 pm

“Get rid of the distractions Kovy brought” What’s this about? The only people who bring up Kovy’s distractions are the ones who try to distract everybody from the real problem: the owners and the GM. Bring up this and bring up that and make him the Captain and make them Assistent Captains – this is all beating the dead horse – I mean, literally. Get a grip, people.

Nikita

March 12th, 2010
12:37 pm

P.S.

I want to see a lot of call-ups, and preferably one of them would be Spencer Machacek.

And in a related note: we traded Grant Lewis? I know he doesn’t fit the system, but dammit, he was a good player. I’d like to see him, right now, as our 7th. But I can’t because he belongs to the freakin’ Hershey Bears.

rob

March 12th, 2010
12:41 pm

I would like to see the team finish with some pride, I think it is important for a team this young with the talent they have to try even though I believe the playoffs are gone. Maybe by some freak chance we still make it there who knows. I don’t want to see them just give up though because that goes to character and we desperately need that more than yet another high draft.

Wayne stuck in AL

March 12th, 2010
12:49 pm

Know what this is like?

Remember when the Braves were a couple of games out of a post-season position with 6 games to go, and then they lose the remainder of their games to a mediocre Florida team and a woebegone Washington team? Deja vu.

As much as the Bitter Queens of the Toronto Hockey Media love to pick on our attendance (or lack thereof), I seriously hope NO ONE shows up tonight, just to make a statement to ASG/Waddell/Anderson/the players.

R. Stroz

March 12th, 2010
12:49 pm

Nikita – Can you not see the difference between the Thrashers that were winning post Kovalchuk and losing post Kovalchuk?

Let me help you.

White in the pressbox equals goals and wins.

White replaces Kane due to injury and BINGO, few goals and consecutive loses. WHITE SUCKS. PERIOD. GET THE TPS REPORT.

rob

March 12th, 2010
12:51 pm

Midfield,
Read the other posts before the “distractions” one. We know ASG/WD/JA are the problem, but there is even more than just that that needs to happen.
Nikita,
I have to think that JA is the motivator here, and if he can’t get the team to perform to their potential, he needs to go. As you stated they have shown they can play, so now the question is why aren’t they? JA needs to go and if someone else comes in and it still happens, it is time for all the callups as a wake up to the players.

Rawhide

March 12th, 2010
1:04 pm

Bob – That we even have to AGAIN have the conversation about “finishing strong vs. getting a higher lottery draft pick” in and of itself pretty damning of where this team is after 10 seasons of play.

As for the question itself…I always want the team to play well every single game, play to win. I do not care where they are in standings, I want them to play to win.

Besides, look how many lottery picks DW has been blessed with in the decade-plus he’s been on the job. I would ask you…what has that gotten us in the long run?

J.B.

March 12th, 2010
1:09 pm

Grant Lewis wasn’t traded. He was loaned. Still Thrashers/Wolves property. Sole purpose was to get him increased ice time. No worries.

puckhead

March 12th, 2010
1:13 pm

WstuckinALA – I have to go – must be drawn to train wrecks – besides I can win the 50-50 raffle again. It’s easy with small crowds.

Savannah Blueland Fan

March 12th, 2010
1:14 pm

“We play well when our backs are against the wall” — a quote from JA after last night’s game. Really? What team is he referring to? Our backs have been against the wall for months. And how refreshing was it to have Chelios come out and score the first goal? The power play sucked, Todd White was useless at the net, they couldn’t enter the zone, all shots on goal were one-timers that were scooped up by the CBJ goalie like a mother catching her toddler while taking its first steps—-typical typical Thrashers. Just another day.

I’ll skip all the fire DWad, dump JA, etc. because it gets said plenty. However, if Antropov doesn’t emerge next year will a C on his sweater, then I really will be pissed. Last night, he alone played with fire. Gotta love that!

Bob

March 12th, 2010
1:55 pm

“I always want the team to play well every single game, play to win. I do not care where they are in standings, I want them to play to win.”

I hear that and mabye I am confusing you guys with the use of “tank”. I don’t want them to, and don’t think that the players would “go in the tank” and intentionally lose. What I mean is my/your expectations? I mean, would you prefer as a fan they try their hardest and win more games and just miss the playoffs or would you prefer they try just as hard yet lose those same games? I prefer the losing now as if we’re not in the playoffs, I’d at least like a better draft position.

moriler

March 12th, 2010
1:59 pm

as mentioned above, being closer to the bottom makes it harder to sign free agents. players don’t view free agency as their chance to sign with a bottom-dweller, they want to go somewhere they have a chance to win. teams that are barely out of the playoffs and fighting for it look like they need just one more piece, and that caters to a player’s ego (”I could be what pushes them over the top!”). Teams like Edmonton, well… let’s just say I don’t see them making any big splash in the offseason.

Rawhide

March 12th, 2010
2:14 pm

well… let’s just say I don’t see them making any big splash in the offseason.

OK…”I don’t see them making any big splash in the offseason”. :cool:

R. Stroz

March 12th, 2010
2:17 pm

Bob – Yes, that was me with the BULLHORN in Section 222 on Sunday. Hopefully, I provided Section 122 with some form of entertainment as the Thrashers failed to do so.

As my AT&T DSL and land line have been out since SUNDAY and were only restored this morning, I haven’t been able to blog lately.

If Don Waddell loses his job with the ASG, he would fit in well with the new AT&T.

rob

March 12th, 2010
2:25 pm

moriler,
I agree and it might make the younger guys that much more hungry and play harder next year.

On another note, if Kane makes it back for any games, I would like to see him play with Pevs and Arty. Might make for some interesting hockey. Anyone else think Armstrong looks a little lost like he did through the middle of the season previous to being put with Slater/Kane? I’ve seen him on odd man rushes twice where he turned it over and we didn’t even get a shot let alone a scoring chance.

Red Light

March 12th, 2010
2:30 pm

Ben Tweets: “Looks like cratches tonight will be Marty Reasoner, Slava Kozlov and Mark Popovic. It sounds like Johan Hedberg will be in goal again as the Thrashers try to grab some desperately needed points from the Rangers.”

Chelios will visit with Buck and Kincade at 4:40 pm. Just so you know, he might be a little late getting to the phone, similar to the failed pinch last night.

Rawhide

March 12th, 2010
2:33 pm

I like putting Moose back in the net…especially given that 2 of the 3 games played against the Rangers this season have gone to a shootout. Like Kozlov being out too…

But if Reasoner is an HS, then that means Anderson is …ahem…waiving the White flag again tonight.

moriler

March 12th, 2010
2:35 pm

I don’t think Reasoner is an “H” part at all of “HS”. :) Good to see Kozzie getting the foot in favor of R2 again though; the guy is just ridiculous when playing along the boards. I keep thinking he’s going to get a penalty called on him for boarding, and then I realize he just pushed the guy with one arm.

moriler

March 12th, 2010
2:36 pm

(”I see what you did there.”)

Bob

March 12th, 2010
2:50 pm

stroz, you had the guys in my section cracking up all game, it was the best entertainment that day. Let’s pray for a better effort tonight.

Is White really a better option than Kozlov? I’d rather have Kozlov for the mere possibility of getting into the shootout.

moriler

March 12th, 2010
3:01 pm

White knows his next stop is the waiver wire unless he shapes up. Kozlov has a full career already behind him. I’d bet on the former to put out more effort than the latter.

Tom

March 12th, 2010
3:14 pm

Kozlov also has the good will of the hockey community. He will land somewhere else after 73 points last season and the impression being stuck with the Thrashers. White on the other hand is known throughout the league as…

…Charmin.

rob

March 12th, 2010
3:14 pm

And Kozlov took that stupid slash after losing on the boards last night which negated what would have been a nice odd man rush led by Slater I believe. Glad to see Arty size back on the ice again, the guy is a monster…just gotta keep silly penalties which may in fact be due to the size and speed difference instead of actually being guilty?

J.B.

March 12th, 2010
3:19 pm

i was kinda p.o.’d artykhin was scratched last night. i really like him on this team so far. dude goes to the net when everyone keeps shooting from the circles or even the damned blueline. TAKE IT TO THE NET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tom

March 12th, 2010
3:28 pm

What scares me is that the Thrashers have the look of a team playing out the string…

There has to be a fire inside that drives these men to play their hearts out. Methinks the Thrashers comfort zone is what we have seen the last 4 games. They are proved that they could play without Ilya, now they are just playing within themselves.

As some have said, the team is full of players that have not played for winners. That heart, that fire, that motivation is lacking.

Nikita

March 12th, 2010
3:43 pm

Stroz, was it really necessary to be such a dick because I said White played “fine”? He did — he played fine in comparison to a number of people in the lineup ahead of him. He didn’t play “great” or “awesome,” nor was he supposed to be the great savior of the team. He played “fine.” Plus it’s not really accurate to say that White is why we’re losing — we’re losing because White isn’t a substitute for the people he replaced. But did you expect him to be?

As for Koz vs. White, I agree that Koz is needed in the shootout. But I think he’s being benched for a lot of reasons that also make sense. And White plays, I suspect, because his attitude is better, since the break he’s been break even or better, he pulls a few more minutes of ice time, and he helps the team during regulation on special teams and at the faceoff. I don’t see any reason to play either, though, if we’ve got enough depth to cover the positions.

…and that’s the problem: we don’t have the depth. A rookie with a smushed foot some guys off the lowest lines shouldn’t be affecting us so much. But they do, because we have so many injured players and were so tentatively competitive before the various players went down.

I don’t know why Artyukhin would be scratched. I’d definitely rather see him in the lineup than some others.

And thanks on the Grant Lewis — guess I’ll book a trip to Hershey.

J.B.

March 12th, 2010
3:49 pm

Midfield

March 12th, 2010
3:50 pm

Err, Rob, if Kozlov did not slash the guy at the boards, the puck would not slide over for the odd-man rush. Not that I think Kozlov should have taken the penalty. I’d prefer for him to lift the guy’s stick – but Kozlov as of now is not good at the boards anymore.

Lee

March 12th, 2010
4:23 pm

It’s kinda cloudy outside…no not just the weather, playoffs.

Brendan

March 12th, 2010
4:35 pm

Bob, I’ve got you down for “never” on the Waddell contract signing. Remember, the source of the information on Waddell’s contract expiring is Forbes Magazine. The team’s internal policy is to not divulge, nor discuss the contracts of the GM, Head Coach, Assistant Coaches, etc.

But just about every other team makes that information available at their websites. Some even include salary information. If I know Waddell, his contract DOES expire in April or even June, but if he isn’t removed from the position, an automatic renewal kicks in. As in, if not fired, the contract automatically extends itself.

I tell you this. I think Waddell will be extended. I think they’ll offer a 2-year deal. I’ve never quite seen a situation in sports where the ownership feared losing its GM. The Spirit, LLC loves Waddell. He’s exactly what they want. I don’t know how the Spirit, LLC would HANDLE IT … if Waddell up and quit. I think they’d be scared to death to run a hockey franchise without him. And kudos to Waddell for thusly hoodwinking them, to keep his job. Other GM would love to attend the Waddell Seminar on how to keep your job without getting any real results. Don Waddell has the only civil service job in the NHL.

Forever Linked

March 12th, 2010
5:14 pm

For entertainment purposes only.

Tonight, it’s a meeting of the by-products of the great hockey minds tonight: Don Waddell vs. Glen Sather.

Lets take a look back at the history of the Broadway Bungler and the Peachtree Pinhead, two GMs linked together forever. Sather took the Rangers’ job, June 1, 2000, while Waddell took the reins in Atlanta June 24, 1998.

Both were on the job a few years before they became linked, but they made up for lost time.

The Trades
At the 2005 NHL Entry Lockout Draft in Ottawa, the Sharks acquired the 8th overall selection from the Atlanta Thrashers in exchange for the 12th overall selection, a second round selection (Chad Denny) and a seventh round selection (Myles Stoesz).

The Sharks drafted Devin Setogouchi and the Thrashers traded down again, swapping the 12th pick for the 16th and 41st picks with the Rangers. The Rangers drafted Marc Staal, while Atlanta drafted Alex Bourret and Ondrej Pavelec.

In 2007, Sather acquired Pascal Dupuis from Minnesota for Adam Hall on Feb. 9 and 18 days later swapped Dupuis and a third-round pick (later traded by Waddell to Pittsburgh for Chris Thorburn while the Pens selected Robert Bortuzzo) for Bourret. Sather then traded Bourret to Phoenix for a 3rd-round pick in in 2008 (Tomas Kundratek).

A year later, Waddell dealt Dupuis and Marian Hossa to Pittsburgh for Colby Armstrong, Erik Christensen, Angelo Esposito and Daultan Leveille.

Christensen was subsequently dealt by Waddell to Anaheim in March 2009 for prospect Eric O’Dell.

The Claims
Sather claimed Christenson off waivers in Dec. 2009

Back to 2007, on Jan. 12, Sather claimed center Jason Krog off waivers from the Thrashers and waived him Feb. 26, 2007. Waddell re-claimed him off waivers the next day.

Free Agency
In the free agent market, Waddell didn’t learn from Sather’s questionable acumen.

In August 2005, Waddell signed former Rangers pirate Bobby Holik as an unrestricted free agent thus ending the wrath of Rangers fans everywhere who liked Holik’s style of play but not his hefty price tag. Despite resting in Wyoming during the lockout instead of playing in Europe, Waddell signed Holik for $4 million per year, three days after Sather exercised the buyout option on Holik’s contract.

Not to be outdone, one month later Waddell signed goaltender Mike Dunham, who had been with the Rangers. The following July (2006) Waddell also signed center Steve Rucchin, who had been with the New York Rangers. And, last season, Sather acquired Nik Antropov from Toronto, who at the time was making $2.15 million, and then lost the unrestricted free agent to Waddell, who signed Antropov for an average cap hit of $4.062 million for four seasons. So far, that makes Waddell 1-for-4 with Rangers’ free agent cast-offs.

Finally, both GMs have taken their turn behind the bench during their tenures. The Rangers have never finished higher than 3rd in its division, have surpassed 90 points four times (one season with 100) and have made the playoffs four times winning two series. The Thrashers have finished 1st once, 2nd once, 3rd once, 4th three times and 5th once. They have reached the 90-point mark twice.

Should be a great game!

Kate Gosselin

March 12th, 2010
5:43 pm

If I can raise eight great kids, have a wonderful marriage and dance with the stars, then SURELY the Thrashers can make the playoffs!

Brendan

March 12th, 2010
5:57 pm

Forever Linked, nice work!

Thrashers27

March 12th, 2010
6:11 pm

Anyone else think it’s silly to keep Pavelec here if coach has no faith in him? At least bring up oen of the kids in Chicago to see if they have any success.

Nikita

March 12th, 2010
6:27 pm

Yes, I think that. I think Pavs may be a great goalie some day — and that day is not today, or this year.

rob

March 12th, 2010
6:52 pm

Midfield, guess I missed it, thought the puck had already squirted up the boards and the slash was retaliatory for being bumped off the puck, so Errr, thanks. Stupid penalty non the less I believe

MB

March 12th, 2010
7:10 pm

Brendan, I believe you were of the opinion that we’d have a better gauge of the effects of the Kovalchuk trade after 12 games or so. If that’s the case, I think tonight marks the 12th game.

To me, it’s hard to say whether we’re better or worse…both before and after, I think it’s fair to say we are/were an incomplete team, though one with some nice pieces upon which to build. I hated to lose Kovy and even Salmela (meaning we now have nothing from the Havelid trade), but Bergfors has been terrific and Oduya solid.

The team played well in the games immediately following the trade, possibly the effect of adrenaline/show ‘em what ya got enthusiasm, and has since spit the bit in its quest for the playoffs. Kane’s absence tilted the fragile balance of the team towards the negative and in recent games they look lost without a go-to player, and their overall lack of talent/experience has been evident.

Moving forward, we’re closer to being in the bottom 5 for the draft lottery than we are to securing a playoff spot. Whether you advocate “tanking” or not, a fairly tough schedule, a 37-year-old backup goalie, and lack of inspired play all point to a downward trend. If that transpires, then we potentially would have a top 5 pick (yet again), a nice core of young, talented players, and a whole lot of cap space entering free agency (though there aren’t too many saviors there this year…and unless significant changes are made in management, who would want to come here?). Despite my disappointment in how things have gone this year, I think there are reasons to be optimistic for the future…but only if certain things change to alter the perception (and reality) of this organization (and I think you know what I’m talking about).

Tony C.

March 12th, 2010
7:16 pm

eh. I’m going to work. At least Kamal will make it seem like a hockey game is being played.

P.S. I don’t know what O-P did to p!ss everybody off, but I seriously doubt the whole “ride the Moose” plan-the man just hits a wall every 5th game. No knock on him, but it happens.

kracker

March 12th, 2010
7:51 pm

gag! Moose simply has to stop that one! Saw it all the way but his glove is too slow.

kracker

March 12th, 2010
7:52 pm

Just as I hit ’submit’ Gaborik scores to make it 0-2 :(

Tom

March 12th, 2010
8:03 pm

The Fat Lady is Singing…

Tom

March 12th, 2010
8:04 pm

Hey, Rawhide, Failblog is calling and want the Thrashers to be their official team…

stendek

March 12th, 2010
8:17 pm

Players don’t tank, ever, so don’t bother there…Moriler.

Hey Moriler. You watching the game? The Thrashers are officially in the tank! Trailing Ranjerks 3-0 after one period. On Loseland ice! In front of the one remaining Thrasher fan! Would call these quitters heartless but that would be too much of a compliment. Not even fit to be referred to as commode residue! Johan Lehtonen has also gone into the tank with his fellow uncaring losers. Cannot say that I blame him. Tough being the only one that cares loss after loss after loss. Speaking of losses. This is about to be the fifth in a row. Five! So much for that March To Playoffs baloney. Like Hike To Hamilton promo much better! Sad. Truly want Thrashers to relocate. Until they do Atlanta will never have a winning hockey team! Will not miss them. Not one tiny bit! That is the truly tragic part. ++STENDEK++ Who is this Todd Nelson? He is an idiot too!

Joyaman

March 12th, 2010
8:27 pm

If I see another glass-half-full post I’m going to puke. This team is playing to level of its talent. Sure this roster shouldn’t be going on skids like they are right now, but niether should we expect that this team of below-average talent sprinkled with prospects here and there is capable of ripping off five or six wins in a row either.

Don Waddell put this leaderless squad together with numerous unrelated, non-congruent moves and draft picks that might only look like good when viewed in isolation. Why should we be shocked when they go limp as they are right now? In order to win, this team needs to show up for 60 minutes EVERY night. Even then, the talent level will not support consistent winning, let alone regular playoff appearances.

When will this town, this ownership and the frigging sheep that keep subsidizing this farce of a franchise wake up and realize that the man at the controls, Don Waddell, needs to be removed? I’m a life-long hockey fan, who worked with 11 different NHL teams over a 13-year span. If it wasn’t for Center Ice, I’d be taking valium right now. This is not an NHL-caliber hockey team and it never will be with Waddell in control.

stendek

March 12th, 2010
8:45 pm

Sign the Hanson brothers! At least teams that whip Thrasher butt will have discomfort with bumps, bruises, black eyes and black and blue marks. Think team uniforms should be pink. Match way these sissies play. If play is indeed the proper word to use here! ++STENDEK++

Sage of Bluesland

March 12th, 2010
8:46 pm

That was spot-on, Joyaman. Spot-on. Too bad they don’t listen–and learn.

LAC

March 12th, 2010
9:01 pm

Boy, ACC Basketball is really good, Thrashers are going drown the drain as USUAL.

Another NON-playoff year, more LIES from Stupid waddell and people continue to support this
team, No Heart, No Grit and NO Hope at all.

Just everyone watch, I bet Edmonton might just catch us and we will be LAST yet again in the NHL !

Boy, how much longer can this franchise & Fans put up with waddell and his BS… People it has to STOP, Some way…. Some How !

Great season “don” are we moving “forward” yet ? More like down the toilet, After ten years, we are not one bit better than when we were an expansion team, Just Unreal to say the least and the Master of Disaster is STILL here to Destroy NHL hockey here once again.
Go To Hell waddell and BURN !!!!!!!

Tom Lysiak

March 12th, 2010
9:17 pm

Sage and Joyaman, I stayed home tonight rather than subsidizing the franchise. I know the ASG missed me. Just curious, should I expect Waddell to be fired tonight or will it be tomorrow morning?

Joyaman

March 12th, 2010
9:21 pm

lol. wonder what the actual paid attendance is this year? has to under 10K.

Joyaman

March 12th, 2010
9:22 pm

Sunday’s game was really sad. All those kids in the building and they e-mailed it in.

stendek

March 12th, 2010
9:27 pm

What John Petrino will say in a few minutes:

“Disappointing loss. Played real hard in second period. Goaltender had some bad bounces. Thought team did some things well. Tough to lose points. Have to get off to better start. Cannot get behind early then expect to come back. Never gave up. Have to start playing better. Need to start collecting points.”

Or words to that effect!

++STENDEK++

Tom Lysiak

March 12th, 2010
9:27 pm

Could not agree more about Sunday’s game.

Sage of Bluesland

March 12th, 2010
9:28 pm

Congratulations, Tom Lysiak–you’ve taken your first step away from being a pathetic, forlorn–and shorn, sheep!!!

I’ll tell ya’ what–you get enough of your friends to follow suit and I’ll GUARANTEE (in my best blustering/sniveling Waddell-impersonation you can imagin) that DW will be fired…

I GUARANTEE it!!!

Deal?

Joyaman

March 12th, 2010
9:36 pm

I wonder who taught the Thrash Morse Code? They’re so good at telegraphing their shots.

Midfield

March 12th, 2010
9:44 pm

I may have been wrong. Kovalchuk ist still a distraction: 1 goal, 2 assists, +2 for a win by NJ. I have an idea: let’s renew Don Waddell’s contract – make it a life contract. That’ll show him.

Joyaman

March 12th, 2010
9:53 pm

It’s amazing how much Eliot and McConnell are such homers. Anytime something goes right, no matter what the score, they start their conjecture and what-ifs? Do they realize that it’s Lundquist in goal?

Joyaman

March 12th, 2010
9:54 pm

Hey Sage, I guess you could call them the Shepherds, eh?

Joyaman

March 12th, 2010
10:01 pm

Thrash help another team on the skids to get well, and according to Eliot and McConnel the opposition become world-beaters.

Wayne stuck in AL

March 12th, 2010
10:16 pm

The announced “attendance” was 15,571; 15,570 more than than ASG/Waddell/Anderson/the players deserve…

But hey, we’re above the Maple Leafs in the standings!

Craiglist Thrashers For sale

March 12th, 2010
10:24 pm

Man this team sucks so bad…………. I guess they do not want to go to the playoffs They should have taken the year off, Oh They Did.We need a team with players that want to win.

Brendan

March 12th, 2010
11:03 pm

MB, I think the Thrashers are now 4-5-1 since the Kovalchuk trade. And yes, I did advocate letting at least 12 games pass before we declare, one way or the other, if the team is better off without him.

In the past five games, Atlanta has banked zero points out of a possible ten (0/10). In the process, they’ve been outscored 19-6. That’s a -12 goal differential. The NHL network just posted that Atlanta is a -75 in goal differential in the 1st period, good enough for 30th in the league. What can be said to ’sugarcoat’ that?

Kovalchuk is an awful player, or so some people would have you believe. He’s so awful that the organization offered him a 12-year deal to stay. So have reported that the offer was the most lucrative contract ever offered to a pending UFA. Tonight, Kovalchuk was stopped on a penalty shot by Marc-Andre Fleury. But, he still scored and picked up a helper. But really, we don’t need to look at NJ, its results, of Kovy’s performance there, any more. No, what we have to do is look at our 12 forwards and ask ourselves which cyclinders aren’t firing?

Don’t just jump on Kozlov and White. Bryan Little? Rich Peverley? When the last time we got a goal from our 4th line? Slater, Boulton, Thorburn, etc. To be a better TEAM, the whole must equal the sum of its parts. The truth is … I think each line is faltering a bit. Six goals in the last five games. That’s never going to get it done.

And what about Moose? Four goals tonight. Tonight was game one of the next five games, to determine how many goals Hedberg would surrender. Will it be 10, 15, or more like 20? And if it’s 20 … then Hedberg wasn’t the pony to bet on … back at the trade deadline, on March 3, 2010.

LAC

March 12th, 2010
11:23 pm

Mail it in team here, Time to scrap the entire team and START over, Thanks waddell
for your LIES & BS, Go To Hell… PLEASE !!!!!!!

Bob

March 12th, 2010
11:34 pm

So, uh, that was a nice game…

R. Stroz

March 12th, 2010
11:40 pm

Bob – The best thing about that game was knowing I can be heard at ice level.

Russ

March 12th, 2010
11:43 pm

Thank God we at least have a 48 year old defensman. Maybe DW will join the blueline next and add that to his resume…GM/Coach/Player. If DW laces them up I hope it is against Pittsburgh and Cooke can take a run at him. Although I’m not sure DW has anything inside that cranium that could get scrambled up.

Nikita (in PA)

March 12th, 2010
11:44 pm

That game effing sucked. There ya go.

And I repeat: goaltending, above and beyond a lack of depth, is gonna sink us.

Michael B. Shapiro

March 12th, 2010
11:44 pm

After 11 years and 10 seasons as a STH I’m hanging it up. Tonight was the worst game I’ve seen Tobi Enstrom play and I’d love to say he was the only one stinking up the Bulb. Blow it all up, sell to Hamilton, Winnipeg, North Hudson Bay for all I care. That’s the only way we’ll ever get rid of the ASG and D-Wad. I’ll spend my money next season on Center Ice instead of my seats at center ice. I’ll save a ton and get to watch NHL caliber play, because that won’t ever happen in Atlanta unless I’m watching the OPPOSING team.

Badger Bob

March 13th, 2010
12:11 am

Great meeting you tonight, Rawhide. That really wasn’t so bad for a pre-season game. The boys look like they are still getting used to the new line mates, and while the power play has no flow or plan or pattern, that will come with time.

PS.. It is actually very therapeutic to stop caring about these guys…

R. Stroz

March 13th, 2010
12:27 am

First, I’d like to nominate Zack Bogosian for milk carton player of the month.

Next, my favorite moment of the game occurred when the puck hit the blade of Charmin’s stick going about 10 mph and he fell down…PRICELESS.

Bob

March 13th, 2010
12:38 am

Charmin tripped over his skirt right in front of us, priceless indeed!

LAC

March 13th, 2010
1:25 am

zach needs to be waived, he, like the rest of this could careless group, does not care and I bet every player on the team cannot wait to LEAVE. The FANS have and ARE and if these STUPID owners cannot see WHO IS THE PROBLEM… Well we should ALL Boycott !

I’m for selling them to another city, and getting an AHL team with a decent owner, won’t be the NHL
but we’d be RID of Atlanta STUPID Group and don waddell, and we could ALL enjoy hockey again !

waddell HAS TO BE REMOVED !!!!

Brendan

March 13th, 2010
1:48 am

Correction. Atlanta surrendered 75 goals in first period play this season, with a -25 goal differential in that 1st period. Un-good.

Michael B. Shapiro, I feel your pain. You made a major financial commitment to the Atlanta Thrashers. And this is how they repaid you. Be sure to tell your ticket rep how you feel. If you don’t tell them, they’ll assume your leaving them has nothing to do with the product or the way in which the franchise is run.

Nikita, so you agree with me, then? The organization dropped the ball in terms of finding a #1 goalie at the trade deadline. Yes or no.

R.Stroz, did you see Bogosian get knocked in the air from a “clean” open ice hit, deep in the defensive zone?

LAC, the NY Rangers and Atlanta Thrashers are both fighting for the 8th and final spot. Smoothie once asked me, “Who do I see winning the 8th spot. I answered, “The New York Rangers.” Beeeeeeing honest. Well, who just pulled off the 4-point swing, at Blueland. Answer: Wasn’t us.

Nikita (in PA)

March 13th, 2010
2:09 am

*Nikita, so you agree with me, then? The organization dropped the ball in terms of finding a #1 goalie at the trade deadline. Yes or no.*

Yes. I think I’m on record as saying something very similar when we traded Kari. I have never felt that Pavelec could carry his share of the weight this season, and when we traded Kari and didn’t replace him I knew we were going to be challenged. The lack of a capable second goalie is especially irritating given how cheap (relatively) goalies are. I mean, I don’t think we could do worse by picking up someone like Stephen Valiquette to serve as depth in Chicago, and someone like that would be very cheap insurance, but it would have been even better to get a new #1, send Pavs back to Chi-town, and let the Moose go back to playing his natural position of backup.

Switching gears, I’m looking at the game stats. The team had a terrible night, with three notable exceptions — the bangers did great. Slater, Boulton, and Thorburn were all +1. And Oduya/Hainsey looked pretty decent, but I think they were even. Which is all the good news there is, unless you’re a Rangers fan.

Brendan

March 13th, 2010
6:52 am

Nikita, it is good to see the grinders at plus players on a given game, but it’d be even better to see that line score a bit more.

Nikita, you wouldn’t have preferred that organization get all it could for Moose while adding Biron or some other proven #1 goalie?

Lew 39

March 13th, 2010
7:02 am

As we head into our third 5 year plan……..
This is a team that played 12 minutes of the 1st period and left the building. You could see the Rangers wanted the win more than the Thrashers. They certainly are not 3 goals better than the Thrashers under normal circumstances, but they sure as hell were last night. They had more desire, more heart and wanted the win more that the Thrashers.
I have been a season ticket holderfor 9 years. I have been disappointed before but not like this past week. I know ownership is absent, management is not that much better, but this team has no heart. After the loss to Columbus one of our players was quoted; I paraphrase we didn’t come out and play for a the first 30 minutes. How, at this time of the year, with real shot at the playoffs do you even say it, less let it happen? What a pair of b___s to say that?
When you put than intense medioracrity on the ice what do you expect. We are and have been a .500% club and the only way a mediorce clubs win is if they believe in themselves and play 60 minutes.

Tony C.

March 13th, 2010
7:22 am

Coach says the pressure may be getting to the kids- WwwwOOoooWWWWWW!

Seriously?

If that’s the case, I’m afraid to see what the pressure of the actual playoffs would do to these guys then.

Midfield

March 13th, 2010
7:45 am

Don’t be afraid, Tony. That you will see not.

bad at math

March 13th, 2010
8:16 am

are we mathamatically eliminated yet?

Midfield

March 13th, 2010
8:21 am

They’re working on it.

Brendan

March 13th, 2010
9:45 am

Right now, the team in on pace for 80-81 points. Eighty? Hmmn. Why is eighty (80) number rolling around my brain so much? Where have I seen that number before? Ahhh yes. Eighty (80%) is the PERCENTAGE of seasons Atlanta will have finished in the bottom third of the conference since inception, if they don’t put together a winning streak. Soon. Now.

But ownership shouldn’t worry. Let me explain why. Oh sure, they’ve lost a few STH’s here and there. And a few more just recently. But they need NOT fear anything until the final 10 games. For you see, THIIIIIS is the time of the season the STH’s decide to renew or not. And well, let me tell what will happen. Atlanta will be mathematically eliminated by then, but it won’t matter to these STH’s. No. It won’t. All that will matter is … that Atlanta beat Pittsburgh and NJ (with Kovalchuk) down the stretch. That, ostensibly, FIXES everything.

The STH’s will say, “Ahh, c’mon. If there were just a FEW MORE GAMES left to play, we’d be in the playoffs. We finished GRRRRREAT. We beat Crosby and Penguins. We beat Brodeur/Parise/Elias/Kovalchuk and the Devils. It proves everything is “A-Okay, super DUPER, zip-zup-ZABULOUS in Blueland. Give Waddell another 2 years! Don’t listen to a handful of misinformed malcontents on a blog.”

Ummn. The season is 82 games for a reason. It’s not 86 games. Or as many games as it might take to get Atlanta into the playoffs. The truth is, sweeping reforms are needed in Thrasherville.

Rawhide, we’re watching the Disney Pixar Movie “Cars” in celebration of “Route 66″ blog at the ajc.com. It really is an adorable little movie. I like “Mater.” He reminds me of John Anderson’s press conference.

Brendan

March 13th, 2010
9:49 am

For the 9-year STH’s, just remember the movie, “Jerry McGuire.” When Renee Zellweger says to Tom Cruise, “We could lose 10 years just being polite (to each other).” Actually, I think it’s coming up on a DECADE now, of “being polite.”

I’d even settle for the movie, “Office Space,” with Waddell in the basement, asking for his stapler.

August

March 13th, 2010
10:49 am

Normally at some point during the game, I sit in my seat and yell at the top of my lungs, “Stop Sucking!” First couple of games after the break, it was very nice and refreshing not to have to do that. The team played with fire and energy and seemed to really care.

The past couple of games have been a different story. After that loss on the road to Tampa, everything just magically went into the crapper in a big way. I understand Kane isn’t out there, and perhaps it’s Anderson’s fault for not sticking Artukyn out there with Armstrong and Slater, but still the rest of the guys had to come with energy.

Immediately after the Kovalchuk trade, I read a lot of people saying how this team was going to be so much better now because they were going to have to play as a complete unit. I kept trying to remind myself how these were the same guys that were here when Kovalchuk was here, and they didn’t play like that, so why would they now? Well, for the first few games the “team” concept worked, and I admit, I nearly fell for it. Now, while I don’t think having Kovalchuk would make any difference, it’s showing that it wasn’t entirely his fault either.

Last night is the first time in my five years as a Season Ticket Holder that I didn’t even bother going to the game. I gave my seats to Lew39. I figured he’d get more enjoyment than I would. I’m hoping he took his grandkids or something because there wouldn’t have been any enjoyment derived from that game any other way. Tuesday I’m giving my seats to someone else as well. I used to go to any lengths I could to try and get out of work to go to games. Now? If the team isn’t going to bother, why should I?

R. Stroz

March 13th, 2010
10:49 am

I’d even settle for the movie, “Office Space,” with Waddell in the basement, asking for his stapler.

And better yet, asking why he hasn’t received his payroll check.

Don Waddell

March 13th, 2010
11:19 am

Not just any GM can position their team for as many lottery draft picks as I have.

Nikita (in PA)

March 13th, 2010
11:48 am

*Nikita, you wouldn’t have preferred that organization get all it could for Moose while adding Biron or some other proven #1 goalie?*

That’d be fine, too. My position has always been that we need a solid #1, and we’ve got to have at least one capable backup and one developing prospect in Chicago to at least be good enough to hold down a few games in a pinch. We have, arguably, the support system but not the essential top piece. And that’s not acceptable.

Mr. Nikita raised an important point, which is that good goaltending alone would have put us in a much more competitive position. Hell, if you simply subtracted Pavelec’s meltdown games, we’d actually be in a much higher spot right now. So, by any means necessary, we have got to have decent or better goaltending. And at this point in the season we don’t have any way to get it.

Obviously I’m not thrilled with the team right now.

The only “bad bounce” that I consider not to be the management/team’s issue is the injuries. We are facing a challenge in that department, but it would be less of a challenge if some more crucial movies had been made.

Moves I think should have been made:
1. Replacing Kari with a stud of a goalie, getting a capable #2, and sending Pavelec back to develop in Chicago.
2. Waiving Kozlov and White. Picking up or bringing up 2-3 reasonably proficient, physically-intimidating, young forwards.
3. More depth in D. I’m pretty surprised to see how weak we’ve been in low-level D, which has been decimated by injury, but the good thing about that is it’s not that hard to replace. On the other hand, I wish we hadn’t sold Nathan Oystrick.

Yung JB from MTL

March 13th, 2010
12:23 pm

Please get rid of JA! I like the guy, but not as a coach! Bad decisions after bad decisions, plus no progress on D, even though we have higher caliber d-man than 2-3 years ago (Kubina, hainsey, enstrom, bogo-regardless of his current play-, ODUYA and Schubert). What are we waiting for?

I mean DW is better than JA! At least DW traded away Kovy for some good NHL-ready players, since many other GMs could have gotten worse. JA cant coach a NHL hockey team.

Get a new coach, and I wouldnt be mad firing Waddell.

Plus are we really playing hockey? 5-game losing streaks wont get u in the playoffs. Damn, i stopped watching the games vs NYR and CBJ right after the first goals were scored. I hate this team

Midfield

March 13th, 2010
12:37 pm

Brendan, even last year’s decent finish did not preclude a bulk of STH from peeling away. My completely unscientific guesstimate analysis clearly shows that most of those who remained gave the benefit of a doubt to Anderson’s system that was supposed to have finally taken hold, as well as Kovy’s verbal steadfast commitment. This is why I think that Nikita’s endless whining about two-faced Kovy who double crossed the franchise is ridiculous: whether Kovy had faked his intentions or not, he actually helped ASG to retain at least some remnants of STH for this season. Guess what: even the blind can see now – at least most of those. Unless there’s a front office shake-up of some noticeable magnitude, ASG would be forced to serve free liquor – and a lot of it – to lure people to the arena.

Curly

March 13th, 2010
12:45 pm

Rawhide:

I think the Thrashers misread the map and are on Route 666.

Don Waddell

March 13th, 2010
1:36 pm

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but the ASG will never fire me.

Get The Puck Out

March 13th, 2010
2:37 pm

The team stinks, the coach stinks, the GM STINKS, but most of all the OWNERS stink. And that’s all i’ve got to say about that.

Tom Lysiak

March 13th, 2010
3:21 pm

No Sage, there is no deal. My comment last night to you and Joyaman was nothing but sarcasm. It’s true I did not go to the game last night, and by extension therefore did not subsidize the franchise. Just like you and all the “sheep” you are herding. How long have you guys been advocating boycotts? How has that worked for you so far? Ever get the idea that ASG is oblivious to your strategy? Ever wonder why they have never publicly stated, “we get that the fans are upset with ownership and management and we will act accordingly on that anger”? Ever get the idea that it has and will continue to have zero impact? Ever feel they are prepared to absorb the losses until whatever event triggers them to act? They are not listening. It is doing no good. If they were astute businessmen and even human beings driven by pride, they would hate their public perception and clean house. You keep trying to imtimidate and embarrass people into staying away if you want. Again, how has that worked so far? Besides, how different are the “sheep” who listen to you than the “sheep” (in your eyes) who attend games?

Thrashers27

March 13th, 2010
3:28 pm

Here’s a good read about Kovy and some insights on his feelings toward Atlanta.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=521224

Brendan

March 13th, 2010
3:30 pm

You cannot fire Don Waddell. He’s a career civil servant. He’s here for life. Or until he decides to retire.

Chris Pronger just scored, with 2.1 seconds left in regulation, to win the game for Philly, 3-2, over Chicago. Did y’all catch the look on Hossa’s face after it happened. It was this “you’ve got to be kidding me” pose. Hossa had put the Blackhawks up, 2-1, fairly late in the 3rd period. Philly rallied to tie it. Then Pronger’s goal sealed the win. In the loss, Cristobal Huet did a “Hasan Chop!” of the crossbar with his goalstick. I don’t know how many times this makes now … but it seemingly a nightly basis that Goalies wildly swing their stick in anger, after goals. Be it in the shootout, overtime, or this very late tally, here now, by Chris Pronger. This kind of irresponsible action really should be looked at and halted. One fine day, someone will get hurt, because of it. But by then, it’ll be too late to do anything about it. A simply fine of $5,000 per instance should stop it. Who can rightly say how a goalstick will break? It breaks the way it does. And if it spliters into someone’s eye, the damage will have been done. And very easily could have been PREVENTED. It’s about personal responsibility. It is possible to be a goalie, to feel frustration, but not smash your stick into bits.

Nikita (in PA)

March 13th, 2010
3:36 pm

Agreed. There’s really no difference between, say, the scalping that Vokoun got an the shrapnel that someone else could catch. Plus, come on, those things are pricey.

Brendan

March 13th, 2010
3:51 pm

Thrashers27, thanks for the Kovy link. I think #17 said basically very positive things. The only knock he had … was that the rink wasn’t soldout every night. But, one comment stood out. “Never before had two (2) road losses resulted in a team meeting before.”

See, when I bring up the Waddell was “Mom” and Bob Hartley was “Dad,” and Kovy was “the spoiled child,” reference, this quote is what we’re talking about. Now, imagine if, instead, Kovy said, “When I acted up today at school or in church, I’d never been sent to bed without dinner before. I figured I’d better straighten up and fly right from now on.”

Instead, the situation was more like this. “Shut up, Mom. Buy me TWO video games, ‘cuz I’m not sharing with Kaitlyn.” You cannot let your house by run by an 8-year old, or any child. Don Waddell is like … a “push over” Mom, who is bossed around by her kids. Dad tries to do something about it, but Mom runs the house. And eventually, Dad (Bob Hartley) got kicked out. Then Mom’s new boyfriend (John Anderson) moved in. And still no discipline or accountability … was dished out.

An NHL franchise is sometimes called a “club.” It’s a misnomer EVERYWHERE ELSE but Atlanta. In Atlanta, the franchise is treat like a “day spa.” It really is a “club,” where NHL players hang out, to a get a message, or take a steam. The only thing missing is the beer. I just don’t see how a GM can be a “player’s GM” and really be effective. In baseball, it seems to work for Bobby Cox. He’s a “player’s manager.” If Chipper says he wants to play 1st, or 3rd, or the outfield, he gets it. If some catcher says, “I won’t catch for Greg Maddux,” Bobby says, “okay.” Cox got away with it. It’s the exception to the rule.

Don Waddell does not get away with it. Kozlov felt entitled. Kovy was was a “special case.” Now, that’s doesn’t mean that Kovy isn’t, himself, responsible for his lack of two-way play. He is. But he was not held accountable for it in Atlanta.

Nikita (in PA)

March 13th, 2010
4:00 pm

*The only thing missing is the beer. *

That’s ’cause we traded Ken Klee. Just sayin’.

Brendan

March 13th, 2010
4:20 pm

:lol: Nikita. Thanks for that one! You made my afternoon!

Brendan

March 13th, 2010
4:24 pm

Gosh, seems like just yesterday I was scratchin’ my head, marveling at the Ken Klee signing. I knew, right then, Klee would make poster Bob’s list of the “Legends of Blueland defenders.” Ken Klee, pfft. What can ya do, right?

Brendan

March 13th, 2010
4:25 pm

Is there a Ranallo warning coming? I sense one on its way. But I can never truly be sure.

Brendan

March 13th, 2010
4:27 pm

Anyone else watch “Cars,” today, featuring the song, “Route 66?”

Tony C.

March 13th, 2010
4:47 pm

@Midfield: Thanks Yoda!

EA

March 13th, 2010
5:52 pm

Seems like the “boycott” had quite a bit to do with Kovy saying “see ya”.

R. Stroz

March 13th, 2010
6:25 pm

Actually, I’d state having meaningless games in April combined with poor attendence had an effect on Kovy.

When was the last time the New Jersey Devils missed the playoffs 10 out of 11 seasons? How was the attendence?

Just for kicks and giggles, check out the attendence numbers for the New Jersey Nets this season, the worst team in the NBA.

My point, New Jersey fans show up for winners as well and aren’t willing to overpay for a minor league product.

Don’t blame the fans, the fans haven’t iced a lousy product, the fans didn’t over price the seats the last few years, the fans didn’t bring in Ken Klee, Niko Kapenen, Steve Rucchin, Todd White, Eric Perrin, and Uwe Krupp.

The fans have been patient through BS such as, “bulding through the draft”, “five year plans”, “playoff guarantees”, “incremental progress”….should I continue?

What Don Waddell has brought is BS in the form of excremental progress.

The fans are pissed because the team’s owners act like a bunch of high school cheerleaders trying to determine which one is the head cheerleader, a GM who has blown “a wait for the future line” past an entire generation, and a coach who rolls his in lieu of “manning up” and getting in someones face.

The fans should receive a medal of honor for continuing to show up and voicing concern in lieu of walking away.

Now, the fans I blame are the ones that blindly support our Mike Milbury wannabe GM, Don Waddell. Any intelligent hockey fan, would call for him to resign.

Rawhide

March 13th, 2010
6:32 pm

Brendan – No Ranallo Warning eminent. Trixie and I are busy compiling tomorrow morning’s Thrasherville Times Sunday paper. It is slated to be delivered on everyone’s cyber-doorstep at the crack of dawn…which I will remind everyone arrives one hour earlier tomorrow. So do not forget to set your clocks ahead one hour tonight.

Bob & BadgerBob – It was definately my pleasure to meet both of you last night. Oh…and the same is true for the lovely and charming Mrs. Bob!

R. Stroz

March 13th, 2010
6:46 pm

Another point, the “boycott” did get results.

Heads rolled at the ASG when the STH sales dropped.

STH benefits increased, STH prices have…are you ready…dropped.

There is one more step that needs to take place and all of the infrastructure is in place for a HUGE STH ticket renewal.

Don Waddell must go.

Flagstaff

March 13th, 2010
7:22 pm

Despite the fact that the Thrashers’ special teams and scoring power suck so tremendously hard, I don’t think that these are the main reasons we’re falling so rapidly in the standings. I’m probably not the first one to say this… but what I think is the primary cause of the current collapse is the lack of locker room leadership. A good captain would help to rally the troops in a time like this. (Note: I said a GOOD captain… not him.)

Brendan

March 13th, 2010
8:14 pm

Flagstaff, in typical Thrashers fashion, no Captain has been named. More procrastination and inaction, the Hallmarks of the organization. Why not dub Marty Reasoner with the “C” right now? What could it hurt?

Have ya peeked at the standings since 4PM? Here’s your boxscore. http://www.nhl.com/ice/boxscore.htm?id=2009021014. Yep, Florida … HAS CAUGHT the Thrashers, with that 3-2, overtime victory over the Sharks. I repeat, Florida, has caught the Thrashers. And let’s not forget, Phoenix and Carolina are underway. The ‘Canes trail, 2-0, just like the Cats did the #2 team in the NHL, the San Jose Sharks, yet they won. So, if Carolina pulls this out … (say it with me,) Carolina has ALSO CAUGHT THE THRASHERS at 66-points. Who could have thought this possible? Actually, one or two bloggers did. They said, “mark my words, Carolina will catch us by season’s end.” Please step forward, if you were the blogger that posted that.

Tell me, is this ‘moving in the right direction,’ THREE YEARS REMOVED from the NY Rangers sweep? I’m just asking a question. And guess what else? Aside from Philly banking two more points to solidify a 6th spot, the #7 and #8 seeds are playing each other. The Habs have 74-points and Boston has 72. I suppose, at this point, we root for Montreal, seeing Boston is the #8 seed, Atlanta’s only hope of a playoff spot. (”Playoffs?!! Playoffs?!! Are you kiddin’ me, I just want a win.” – Jim Mora, Sr., all rights reserved.) But isn’t this EXACTLY what I was talking about before, when asked at the trade deadline, about Atlanta’s chances? My response, “There’s a logjam of teams all around us, who will be playing each other. And unless there’s way to prevent them from sharing those points, it’ll be tough for Atlanta to make the playoffs. With 8 teams within 3-points of each other, with only three playoff slots, I think it’s an uphill battle for the playoffs. Melrose said no. Schultz said no. Rawhide said no. Beeeeing honest, I told Smothie that I see the NY Rangers at #8. Therefore, in my opinion, we should sell. We need to trade Kubina, Armstrong, Finny, Moose, and Schubie if we can’t re-sign ‘em.”

Well, those comments went over about as well as a Sinead O’Connor visit to the Vatican. But hey, it speaks to judgement. And how well or how poorly this organization assesses itself. How much more evidence does one need to know we need a new GM?

Thrashers27

March 13th, 2010
8:59 pm

At this point I’m supporting the “tank it” method in hopes of another top four draft pick. This season is toast. I can’t even stand to watch the games anymore.

Time for a good house cleaning, from coaches to the ownership. This team needs a clean slate. Sure, the coaches and DW are ultimately good guys and you hate for it to happen, but it’s time and I’m tired of this team losing year after year.

The leadership of the team may need some changes, but I am optimistic about the talent of the future. I’m looking forward to seeing names like O’Dell, Kulda, Morin, Bergfors, Macarthur, Postma, Cormier and Kane on the ice together. If Little and Bogosian get their collective “spit” together and play to their potential then thats even more to look forward to. I’m looking forward to seeing Esposito prove his abilities as well.

Here’s lookin’ at next season.

Sage of Bluesland

March 13th, 2010
9:01 pm

I know someone who needs to wead a basic economics book (psst, that’s YOU, swift-Tom L.!)

Folks, I think we’ve found another organization-man here! Maybe it’s even Donny?

Nice attempt, swifty!

Joyaman

March 13th, 2010
10:39 pm

Check out this gem from the NHL site in a softball-questions-only interview with all the Southeast Division GMs

NHL.com: What do you enjoy most about your job and what’s most agonizing?

Waddell: “Certainly I enjoy the pressure that comes with the job of putting a hockey team together and watching it every night. Probably the most disappointing thing is when the team doesn’t perform to a level that you feel they’re capable of reaching.”

Hmmmm….Let’s break this down a bit so that everyone can understand what it’s like to live in a teflon fantasy world (insert Jeopardy music here…):

(a) What pressure?

(b) Dumpster Diver Don is about the only one who could stand to watch this team every night.

(c) The team is performing EXACTLY to the level its capable of.

(d) DDD’s perception (what he “feels”) has never meshed with reality, that’s why ASG still thinks he’s the perfect man for the job. Don’t want that messy “reality” creeping in around here. Could have a negative effect on the sheep. No sheep, no wool? How then would we cover our eyes?

Tom Lysiak

March 13th, 2010
11:37 pm

Well, let’s see. One poster thinks the boycott was the reason Kovy left. Stroz says the boycott has worked because “heads have rolled”. Now, was that ticket reps who were let go? Ushers? Janitors? Whoever it was, I guess that’s a start to work your way up the ladder towards Waddell. If you can just hold on long enough to work through all marketing employees, finance people, ticket office employees, equipment managers, oh and even Thrash himself, then your plan will work. At the current rate of tangible return on your boycott (you know, those heads that rolled so far), the lease at Philips will expire before you get your man.

Sage, you haven’t found “another organization man” here. Frankly, I doubt you could find your own butt with your hands. I am simply a fellow hockey fan who doesn’t agree with your plan. A fan who is amused because you want Waddell’s head so bad that the obvious lack of results of your campaign doesn’t register. I want the team sold to ownership that cares about the product, who also will keep the team here. I also want Waddell gone tonight, either by ASG or his own hand. Fact is though, he is obviously not personally embarrassed by his local reputation or results and feels no responsibility. The other fact is ASG has demonstrated that they will not terminate his employment for reasons known only to them. In other words, I can want those things and it isn’t registering with them. That leaves me with a choice. Stay home and weally, weally hope they get the message. Or, go watch some hockey and let the situation play out. Your choice and mine.

Oh yeah Sage, I really would be thrilled if your plan had worked. Wouldn’t it be great to have a new GM, maybe a new coach and not have to read how bad Waddell sucks and when his contract might expire? Until then, you may want to weally wook at your wesults. They suck so far. Beweive that.

R. Stroz

March 14th, 2010
12:46 am

I’m looking for the early edition of the Thrasherville Times.

Where is the delivery man? Get to work.