Bergfors and Oduya coping with ‘it is what it is’ situation

During his intermission interview during last Friday’s game in Washington, newly acquired forward Niclas Bergfors was asked his thoughts about being traded the day before from the New Jersey Devils to the Thrashers.

Johnny Oduya, celebrating his first goal for Atlanta, has 8 SOG and is a +1 in his two games since the trade (AP Photo/John Amis)

Bergfors, celebrating his first goal for Atlanta, has 8 SOG and is a +1 in his two games since the trade (AP Photo/John Amis)

Incorporated in his response was the phrase, “It is what it is”.

To be honest… Johnny Oduya, who also came to the Thrashers in the deal that sent Ilya Kovalchuk to New Jersey, as well appeared less-than-thrilled with the transaction. Oduya and Bergfors both looked like soldiers who had just been re-assigned from a base in Key West, Florida to somewhere in Siberia. Oh, they were polite and all…gave the customary “Want to help my new team succeed” kinda responses…but there wasn’t a whole heckuva lot of joy plastered across their faces in doing so.

Yesterday during a brief interview on NHL Live, heard on XM’s Home Ice Channel, Bergfors was asked the same question and he again used the “It is what it is” line a couple of times…hardly a ringing endorsement of the situation he finds himself in.

“It is what it is” is a phrase that pretty much means, “I don’t like the situation…I would rather not have to deal with…I do not care for the circumstances I find myself in…but I accept the fact that there is nothing I can do about it and so I’ll tough it out”.

I use it quite a bit myself, much to the dismay of the Divine Mrs. R. She normally hears me use the phrase after asking what I thought of the latest chick flick I was forced to endure with her.

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Now, one can understand why Bergie and Johnny might be somewhat disappointed in last week’s transaction. They were sitting atop the Atlantic Division with the Devils and certainly on the way to post-season play. In Bergfors case, New Jersey was the team that drafted him in the first round back in 2005 and Oduya was leaving the only NHL team he’d played for… even though Washington selected him back in 2001.

Then they learn they’re departing the “first class organization”…as Ilya Kovalchuk put it…to play for a team that is run by Donnie and the Great Octocluster. And with that comes no guarantee of playing beyond the scheduled 82 games.

“It is what it is” certainly could sum up one’s feeling given the situation.

But if Bergie and Johnny were in fact upset about the trade…they certainly have not allowed that to affect their play for their new team. Oduya has stepped in and made a big impact on the Thrashers blueline and Bergfors has hustled his butt off on the other end of the ice…taking eight shots on goal and scoring the game winner last Saturday against the Panthers. In doing so, both have shown a great deal of maturity and professionalism.

Those are qualities this squad needs as much as their talent… and it goes a long way towards winning over both your new teammates and the fans.

Oduya defends against Alex Ovechkin. Johnny has averaged 20:42 TOI while with the Thrashers (AP Photo/Nick Wass)

Oduya defends against Alex Ovechkin. Johnny has averaged 20:42 TOI while with the Thrashers (AP Photo/Nick Wass)

Ya know, if…if…IF…IF…the Thrashers are able to pull off a successful playoff run after the Olympic Break, it is entirely possible that New Jersey and the Thrashers could square off in a first-round matchup. The Devils currently lead the Atlantic Division and Atlanta could only hope for a low-seeded position in the hunt for Lord Stanley’s Cup.

That would be interesting, eh?

And if…if…IF…IF…the Thrashers were to pull of the upset in that series, I could just imagine…while the two teams are going through the post-series hand shakes…as the two players pass, Kovy would remark to Bergfors, “So, who would have thought this would happen last February”?

Bergie could then look Ilya in the eye and reply with a smile, “Well you know…it is what it is”.

122 comments Add your comment

World Be Free

February 9th, 2010
3:18 pm

NYC-just being a wise a–
I used to work in Cherry Hill, nice place. Sinatra won’t like it if he heard me use that chemical dump stuff, Springsteen either.

My point is that NJ should not be a more desireable place than Atlanta, though Lou has made it just that. No hard feelings.

Nikita

February 9th, 2010
3:18 pm

I think it would be a mistake to take their initial interviews as anything but pure shellshock. Or as Mr. Nikita said, “that look means ‘Holy S^%$, what am I going to do about that house I just bought on the shore?” It’s freakin’ traumatic being traded, and I doubt either of them even expected to end up in Atlanta.

That said, I don’t care what they think of Atlanta as long as they give it an honest effort and a fair shake. They did great the other night against the Panthers, and I hope are going to have a great end-of-season.

Third Man In

February 9th, 2010
3:18 pm

J-Man: The Thrashers were 7-21 in the first 28 games after Hossa’s departure.

World Be Free

February 9th, 2010
3:19 pm

LAC – Mike Illich

Lee

February 9th, 2010
3:22 pm

Yeah, Berg and Oduya don’t really want to be here, but I like how they are putting in more effort than Kovy did.

John

February 9th, 2010
3:29 pm

We’ll know a heckuva lot more by the Olympic break. Take at least 4 of 6 and Waddell will be praised, lose 3 1 goal games and the perception will be much different. But if we continue to get upwards of 50 shots a game, a few will make it to the twine and this team should be in pretty good shape.

Question to those who know: Are the second round picks that we swapped with the Devils conditional? Cause if the afforementioned 1st round upset does happen, their 2nd round pick would be higher than ours…would we still swap them?

Also, interesting to note, the Boston guys on NESN are all about the Bruins in the playoffs still. That could be the New England ethnocentric attitude that comes with everything (I was told multiple times up there that you will not find a better college football atmosphere than Boston College. Come on.), but if they can do it, we sure as hades can.

Eileen

February 9th, 2010
3:41 pm

I did not log in as Debbie! However, we have all come a long way since the 11th grade. I am sure your lovely wife is very happy Debbie did not snag you for life.

rob

February 9th, 2010
3:45 pm

All this talk on here of trades for forwards, this and that for Kari and whoever. If they trade Kari now, they dam well better get a better goalie from somewhere. Playoffs started last week. Too many teams too close, and only a few spots. Whatever goalie gets hot or stays hot gets their team in. I hope they let Kari see what he has in him, as he actually has the most talent to pull off a run for us, and the closer to playoffs the harder the points will be. So unless there is another bigtime goalie out there, might want to look at what we have. Pavs won’t cut it, he isn’t ready, and Moose (cut all the emotional attatchment out) is a great backup. If Kari’s comeback falls short….ugh I don’t like our chances much. That doesn’t mean I won’t be cheering as loud as I can though, and keeping my fingers crossed that I am proven wrong!!

NYC

February 9th, 2010
3:47 pm

It’s understandable that people’s first impression of NJ is….a chemical dump, as you put it. But there are nicer areas other than the ones you witness in the Sopranos intro.. No hard feelings at all. I agree that Atlanta should be a more desireable place, if not for the “no snow” factor alone.

GaVaHokie

February 9th, 2010
3:53 pm

Question to those who know: Are the second round picks that we swapped with the Devils conditional? Cause if the afforementioned 1st round upset does happen, their 2nd round pick would be higher than ours…would we still swap them?

Great question… that would be a great way to stick it to “Lou” for underestimating us.

GaVaHokie

February 9th, 2010
3:57 pm

It’s understandable that people’s first impression of NJ is….a chemical dump, as you put it. But there are nicer areas other than the ones you witness in the Sopranos intro

Yep, like Alpine, NJ where countless celebrities live… Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock, Patrick Ewing, Britney Spears, Jay-Z, Stevie Wonder, P-Diddy, etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine,_New_Jersey

Captain Cliche

February 9th, 2010
3:59 pm

At the end of the day, it is what it is. There is no question about it. Now, we have to stay focused, give 110% and take it one game at a time. If we put the puck on net, good things will happen.

Obviously, the final score is the only statistic that matters because statistics speak for themselves. All things considered, it comes down to the fact that it ain’t over ‘til it’s over. ‘Nuf said.

GaVaHokie

February 9th, 2010
4:00 pm

Back on topic… it’s hard to stomach the “it is what it is” comment as positive, when we see how easily Kovy adjusted to his new digs.

But yes, first impressions can change in an instant.

GaVaHokie

February 9th, 2010
4:02 pm

Thanks Captain Cliche… keep your chin up and keep on keeping on. Tomorrow is a new day, one door leads to another, and change is just around the corner. :)

rob

February 9th, 2010
4:07 pm

vivs says Kane and Berforgs worked on PP……WTF is JA watching the blogs LOL

DWTOO

February 9th, 2010
4:08 pm

Can just see Crash helping Nuke with his cliches right now.

Niclas Bergfors

February 9th, 2010
4:11 pm

Bergfors, rob. It’s Bergfors. That is what it is.

Rawhide

February 9th, 2010
4:11 pm

vivs says Kane and Berforgs worked on PP……WTF is JA watching the blogs LOL

rob – Where do you think he got the idea to sit White and Kozlov recently??? :cool:

Capt. Clicheclapping… Well played, sir! :lol:

Dandylions

February 9th, 2010
4:12 pm

Rawhide – I need to play more Scrabble to understand some of your bloggers. And Third Man In – that was too funny.

RS

February 9th, 2010
4:28 pm

Anyone notice in the story about Salmela that his agent is also Jay Grossman? Wonder if he has any other clients on the Thrashers….

Stay Thirsty My Friends

February 9th, 2010
4:39 pm

He also represents Hedberg. Attached is a link to his NHL clients.

http://www.puckagencyllc.com/nhlplayers.html

Schroeder

February 9th, 2010
4:42 pm

Nice client list,was Grossman in the KGB in a former life?

Badger Bob

February 9th, 2010
4:43 pm

Grossman also represents Moose. See http://www.puckagencyllc.com/nhlplayers.html

You’d think Jay could afford to make his website not look like he made it himself in his basement…

Badger Bob

February 9th, 2010
4:43 pm

Scooped by Mr Dos Equis!

Viking

February 9th, 2010
4:46 pm

Before the “Big Trade” we owned 3 of 10 in Jay Grossman’s active NHL roster!!!

World Be Free

February 9th, 2010
4:53 pm

NYC-the irony for me is that I am from up near Niagara Falls, one of the 7 wonders of the world and a beautiful place. NF is also home to Love Canal, which is known for being one big chemical dump.

chris16

February 9th, 2010
4:54 pm

Man did anybody watch the Devil game last night on Versus? I think the annoncers said Kovy’s name about hundred times and how great he is with the devils, I ask this when the Thrashers were on Versus did they make Kovy sound like a hockey god with the thrashers? I love that money bags kovy is scoreless I hope it last.

Smoothie

February 9th, 2010
5:00 pm

Just as point of reference, for comparison’s sake, the Thrashers’ record the day of the trade deadline deal to send off Hossa was 29 – 30 – 4. The day he was traded, they lost to Montreal 5 to 1. After that, they proceeded to cobble together a decent stretch of 2 – 3 – 4. But then they lost the next 5 games straight losing by an average of 4 to 2. They finished with a triumphant whimper winning 3 of the last 5.

The record over the 15 games leading up to the trade is eerily similar to their record leading up to the trade of Ilya Ko-VAL-chook. They went 6 – 8 – 1 including the 10 to 1 stinker in Buffalo. Over the 10 games leading up to the trade, they managed a record of 5 – 5 – 0.

So what was their record in the last 10 and 15 games leading up to the trade for Bergie and Johnny O? 6 – 6 – 3 over the last 15 and 4 – 4 – 2 over the last 10. Let’s hope that’s where the comparison stops.

Go Thrashers!!!

DaveR

February 9th, 2010
5:04 pm

Both Bergfors and Oduya speak excellent English.

I’m glad you guys aren’t reading too much negativity into this “it it what it is” stuff. Both of these guys will be excellent additions to your team, and they will not bring attitude problems to your locker room.

Hockey Biltong

February 9th, 2010
5:05 pm

chris 16 – just the usual bias.

d

February 9th, 2010
5:08 pm

I would think Atlanta is a great destination for NHL’ers. The golf courses start turning green in April – just when the calendar open’s up for the Thrash…

James Brown

February 9th, 2010
5:12 pm

Sorry to hear about Boris………He had really picked his game up…….tough year for him with the two injuries….I guess “it is what it is”

Rightshot

February 9th, 2010
5:38 pm

Just watched a video on Bergfors and Odonya on the Thrashers site. It seems, so they say, they are adjusting and seem to like the team so far. They looked much calmer, obviously, than before.

I think the “it is what it is” comment was more shell shock than anything.

But give them time, if things go like they have in the past, heaven forbid, they will be burning Lou in effigy soon enough.

Smoothie

February 9th, 2010
5:54 pm

On the team website, Ben managed to get some good sound bites from both Nicky and Johnny. They definitely appear more relaxed and upbeat after a few days of “normal” activity. Perhaps their fellow Swedes took them around town and showed them the sites and introduced them to some good southern cooking / hospitality. Anyway, they seemed to be in good spirits. Might as well embrace it cuz their gonna be here a while!

HookyBob

February 9th, 2010
5:55 pm

Perhaps Johnny and Nic will have a better outlook once Moose has them, and Toby, over for Swedish meatballs, lutfisk and lefsa. This is another value that Moose brings this franchise. He is good at getting new Swedes aclimated outside the rink.

Viking what else can we do to make them feel at home? Sauna out back?

Brendan

February 9th, 2010
5:57 pm

I use, “it is what it is” as an explanation of a situation or event. If someone asked me, “Have the Thrashers had a lot of playoff success?” I’d reply, “they made it in once.” If the follow up question were, “Is that normal?” I’d reply, “it is what it is.” As in, it’s an explanation of things as they actually are. One playoff berth “is what it is.” I didn’t say that it was good or bad. In this example, “normal” is variable and undefined. “Normal” is an undetermined thing. What is “normal” playoff output/production? Who wants to do the research, when you just quickly answer, “it is what it is. They have one playoff berth.”

In the context of this trade, however, I suspect that Bergsfors meant, “I just left an organization with 4 recent trips to the Stanley Cup Finals, with 3 Cup wins, to go to a franchise that cannot figure out that it needs a new GM, after a decade of failure.”

DaveR

February 9th, 2010
6:23 pm

He was drafted by the Devils in the first round, 2005. Played 4 years of minor-league hockey for them, and was only this year getting a real chance with the big team. His whole career was in the Devils organization, since he was 18 yrs old.

He was playing at the beginning of this season on the Devils first line, and picking up a lot of PP time. He was (and still is) among the league-leaders in scoring among rookies.

Each day he’d be rubbing elbows with guys like Marty Brodeur, Zach Parise, and Jamie Langenbrunner. The locker room is full of guys who have won the Stanley Cup, some as many as 3 times. Everyone is focused on getting there again, This Season. This is their year.

He (and the entire Devils team) had a one-month slump, and Bang! Lou (or Jacques) calls him into the front office. The team that had invested in him (and vice versa) from the age of 18 is telling him that he’s no longer part of the organization.

Regardless of what team he was getting traded to, what do you expect when some reporter sticks a mic in his face and says, “What do you think about this?”

World Be Free

February 9th, 2010
6:24 pm

HooKy-lutfisk?

Wow, takes me back to my time in Norway.
Get them waffle machine and some reindeer steaks.

World Be Free

February 9th, 2010
6:26 pm

Brendan-classic my friend!

Viking

February 9th, 2010
6:51 pm

HookyBob & Worl Be Free,

Lutfisk and lefsa are more Norwegian. The Sauna is really a Finnish thing, but will attract Swedes too.

Swedish Meatballs and pancakes will do. They might also long for crisp bread, pyttipanna, cold crayfish in dill, and salt licorice.

Unfortunately, what really has great attraction value for their welcome dinner is snaps (ice cold aquavit or vodka, not schnapps) and drinking songs. Which we do not want them to engage in during the season.

Otherwise, we can hope for some nice sunny, warm weather, which will quickly make them feel the trade was the best that could have happened to their hockey career.

rob

February 9th, 2010
7:07 pm

How long are the 2 under contract for now?

rob

February 9th, 2010
7:24 pm

Also, nice how Schultz article is already gone from Thrashers page on AJC (still under Schultz but NOT on the teams page). Guess SOMEONE didn’t like that too much huh? LOL Thankfully they can’t just erase it from Bettman’s head that quickly.

Third Man In

February 9th, 2010
7:25 pm

Bergfors is a restricted free agent this summer, while Oduya is under contract for two more seasons.

Tony C.

February 9th, 2010
7:32 pm

Bergors is RFA, Oduya has 2 more seasons left on his current deal. I believe Cormier has another 2 years before he’s RFA.

Please feel free to correct me-I’m not looking at anything official just what I remember from scanning it when I heard about the trade.

Get The Puck Out

February 9th, 2010
7:48 pm

Seems like i read somewhere that Kari was being traded to Dallas for Turco. I don’t know what else is involved but it sounds pretty good to me.

Somaatl95

February 9th, 2010
8:00 pm

Regardless of the outcome, it is what it is. Maybe we actually go to the playoffs now that the #17 curse has been lifted. Remember when Hossa left, all he wanted was the cup. Didn’t get it as a Penguin. Went to the Red Wings, all he wanted was the cup – didn’t get it again. I forsee the Thrashers one day against Kovy or Hossa (or both) for the Cup. Our “star crossed” days have hopefully passed.
Maybe youngsters will one day look forward to being traded to Atlanta. Who knows?
It is what it is.

kracker

February 9th, 2010
8:15 pm

Viv says Kari traded to Dallas for Ivan Vishnevskiy!!! Wow…says Kari didn’t fly out to Colorado w/ the team.

Smoothie

February 9th, 2010
8:20 pm

Viv is saying Lehts to Dallas for D-man Ivan Vishevskiy!

Bob

February 9th, 2010
8:53 pm

Why dump Lehts now unless it’s a pure salary dump? the guy finally is ready after the surgeries, he’s a former #2 overall. You just lost a #1 overall. Only thing that makes sense is if there’s another deal made to bring a goalie in now.

Somaatl95

February 9th, 2010
9:18 pm

Lots of people complaining here about the pending/possible Kari trade – look around – I have seen a lot of Dallas fans livid that they are giving so much for a goalie who is prone to injury and hasn’t acted like he has given a squat in his rehab assignment. Plus a lot of people are thinking there may be a deal for Turco in Atlanta coming in the offseason, since the folks in Dallas seem to think Turco is not sticking around. Before you get pissed see what the other teams fans say about the trade – if they are pissed Atlanta got a oood deal, right?