Don Waddell is right about the Thrashers needing new identity

For those of you who have been regulars around here since I’ve been hosting this little online forum for the past three seasons, you know I’ve not been shy about dipping the pen in poison ink before opining about the Thrashers general manager on occasions. But tonight, I happily write about something I totally and completely agree with Don Waddell about…and that is his statement recently about how this team needs a new identity. As he said, the roster for the longest time had been constructed around him.

But with Kovy’s departure, the organization is in a bit of an identity crisis…and I think Don was correct in pointing it out.

For too long, whatever identity the Thrashers might have had was based on icing a team that formed from the idea of winning 4-3 and 5-4 games almost every night. As we have seen over the past several seasons…that simply does not work. If you have to rely on 4 or 5 goals every night, you aren’t going to win more games than you lose.

Given that, I have to say that I hope…I pray…that the type of team Waddell is thinking about as he sits down again at the drawing board is one that takes the form of a tough, physical, defensively responsible, hard-nosed squad that is made up of quality character guys who fight for each other each and every shift. A kind of team that opposing players simply do not want to travel to Atlanta and play because they know they are going to have a fight on their hands win lose or draw…OK, win lose or overtime loss.

In short, the new identity needs to be, in a word…tough.

The kind of Thrashers team I would love to see in the future, to be honest, was on display during Saturday night’s 4-2 win over the Florida Panthers. I hope I see it more often…and that style of play is what Don builds around, not just one player.

Thrasherville celebrates with Niclas Borgfors after he scores his first goal for Atlanta. It put the Thrashers ahead 3-2 in the third period (AP Photo/John Amis)

Thrasherville celebrates with Niclas Bergfors after he scores his first goal for Atlanta. It put the Thrashers ahead 3-2 in the third period (AP Photo/John Amis)

This was a gut-check night for the team. They had departed Atlanta with Kovalchuk, said good-bye to him later in the day, and then were beat by probably the best team in the league…their third loss in a row. Adding to their misery was a commute back home Saturday that resembled something out of the movie “Planes, Trains and Automobiles”…departing Washington D.C. that was in the midst of a snowstorm by bussing themselves to Richmond where they caught a flight to Atlanta.

I believe Don Waddell even mentioned that the airport closed shortly after they got off the ground. Regardless, they arrived at Philips Arena around 6:30 or so…and there was some sort of fender-bender along the way.

The game was pushed back to allow time to dress and adequately warm up…but they found themselves down 2-0 after the first period. Honestly, if they had been blown out of the barn on this night, I think most people would at least understand why.

However…instead, what emerged from the locker room was a group of players that decided they might was well play hard since they were there anyway, put some bodies on opposing players, busted their collective humps in the defensive zone and evened the score before heading back in for the second break.

It lead to an eventual game-winning goal by new Thrasher Niclas Bergfors with 4:26 remaining in the game…and what a wonderful way to introduce himself to Thrasherville…but it all began with the gritty, tough, focused, edgy attitude that accompanied the team when they came out for the second period.

The team played tough tonight…worked themselves out of a funk, they did.

The Ilya Kovalchuk era in Thrasherville is over. With that is a chance to rethink and retool this organization…to actually start building a team from the goal-out and put ice a team that will bring the hurt with them night in and night out.

That’s what I hope Don has in mind.

One Jacked-Up Crowd

I wasn’t planning on being at Saturday night’s game. I spent know I was spending the entire day at Ft. Benning down in Columbus…and would need to get up at O-dark thirty to get down there. But once it became clear this was going to be the first game of the post-Kovalchuk era, I know I needed to be there.

So…I broke a few speed-limit laws on I-85 to make it by 7:00.

What I was most curious about was what type of mood the fans were going to be in. As was the subject of my last blog, it looked like Waddell and the ownership could face some tough questioned at the town hall meeting and the assembled masses could be loaded for bear given the current state of things in Thrasherville.

What I witness, however, was an emotional welcome to the team as they took to the ice…and all through the game they were loud and raucous. A lot had to do with the game itself and the way the home team played…but it seemed as though most came to the arena with the mindset that they wanted to show full support for the players on the ice and even welcome Bergfors and Johnny Oduya, whom the Thrashers picked up on their trip to D.C.

My impression was that Thrashervillians were ready to move on from this whole Kovalchuk drama and get back to simply pulling for their team. We can discuss and debate the trade and reasons for it…but in the end, when the game is on, that stuff gets put aside.

From what I understand, the THM was mostly civil…a good two-way discussion between fans and management.

As I said at the top of this entry…I can be tough on Don Waddell, but I’ll give the an kudos for not shying away from standing up there and answering the to the paying customers.

188 comments Add your comment

Lee

February 7th, 2010
11:51 am

Man, I was at the game last night, and was it loud or what?! Geez, It was hard to talk to the guy next to you.

Cup Guy

February 7th, 2010
11:56 am

That was by far the best game I have seen in person by this team in a long long long time. I have to bring it to everyones attention. Did you see Bergfors smile during the interview after the game? I mean WOW! Did kovy every smile like that? Hell did he ever smile at all? This is a kid who wants to win. This kid reminds me a lot like Kane. I think it is going to be great watching him grow up with us.

The STH meeting was not what i was expecting at all. I was sure people were going to crucify Don. I was glad and excited to not see that happen. He had it right when he said the crest of the front was more important then the name on the back. i think he stole that from Herbie Brooks but that is ok. I agree. Kovy is a good player, but he isnt great. He was only worth half of what he wanted because he only plays half of the sport. You have to play D buddy to get what you want. I am glad to see a new identity. It is one that has been long waiting.

We are going to be just fine without Kovy. The way we played last night was because of the crowd. The team got down but the fans didnt and they fed off of us. People say that teams win games. I disagree with them. A lot of times the fans win games because the team feeds off of you. Players say they like to play in front of big crowds, but many will say the like to play in front of crowds with big voices. That is what is going to help them win a lot of games. Big crowds and big voices. So this is where we network out. You love hockey and go. Bring another person to a game with you. Get more people into the arena and make that crowd larger. There is an excellent game coming up where you can get great seats at a great price with the money going to a great cause.

March 7th. Sunday against the Canes. Tickets that are normally $42 will be $20 with the proceeds going to the American Red Cross to help Haiti. People in Haiti live off of about $3 a day. $3 A DAY!
Come on guys. We can raise a ton of money to help our these people in need. If you need more info or want to purchase these tickets. You can email me at
Cupguy20@gmail.com

See ya after the olympic break!

Pittsburgh Pirate Fan

February 7th, 2010
11:56 am

Hey Yankee-you wonder if DW would have the same courage if he were the Flyers’ GM, going into a room with a group of Philadelphia fans? I think Thrasher fans are way too kind.

Twisted Wrister

February 7th, 2010
12:03 pm

Most of the fans critical of Waddell have given up, leaving the Kool-Aid drinkers in the town hall meetings.

rob

February 7th, 2010
12:04 pm

Biltong,
And nice to meet you too. What a game huh? I think I saw Rahide talking w you at one time but didn’t get to introduce myself. Awesome to see the team get supported like that, you could see the guys game reflect the emotions on the ice. Think there were more body checks in that game then in any 10 game stretch the whole season.

Side note,
I was down by the glass for the game winner and was banging on the glass and cheering and yelling, and afterwards the usher lady actually came up and told me not to do that again……really?!?! NEVER saw that before, and was wondering if others have experienced that as well?
Or did she not appreciate the Fire Waddell tshirt? hahahaha

World Be Free

February 7th, 2010
12:14 pm

Two more notes-despite his recent decline in play, I would take Ethan Moreau on my team anytime. You never have enoough grit.

The Florida Panthers were laying down in front of shots again last night. My response? They want to do that, hit them with the damn shot! That stuff wears on you over a season. They’ll get up eventually, alot slower than they did earlier in the season.

Buzzeng

February 7th, 2010
12:23 pm

Bill – as always, thanks for your posts and thanks to those who post behind you. I read them all and enjoy the humor and knowledge that is routinely dispensed even though I rarely post.

Quick question – who, on the bus or during the first intermission, do you think stepped up and took hold of this team and got them to start thinking that they could come back from a 2-0 deficit and get back into the game and even win it? Who is the team member in the locker room that got it done last night and could do it again?

Nice to follow the Thrashers win last night, and especially seeing one of the “traded” get the GWG. Go Thrashers!!

The Real Thrash

February 7th, 2010
12:55 pm

The identity the Thrashers need is the one without Waddell. And since he has been the GM since our inception who is more responsible for having or not having and indentity-Waddell. Rawhide, start being what is expected and needed on this blog.

Brendan

February 7th, 2010
1:24 pm

Let me begin by saying, I’m proud of Atlanta’s fans for being a loud and solid presence, post-Kovalchuk. I’ve always said that the level of hockey interest in this town is very strong. All this market really needs … is committed ownership and accountable management. Sadly, they’ve done very little in those two categories. That Atlanta is willing to support them in spite of that … shows just how BADLY the fans (1) LOVE HOCKEY and (2) want to keep their team. It is remarkable to witness.

Segue, well … you’ll excuse me if I point out something obvious. Don Waddell is not the “newly made GM” of this franchise. It’s been his job, since Day One, to formulate an identity for his team. Brian Burke formulates an identity for his teams. Why doesn’t/hasn’t Waddell done the same? Anyone have any answers for that? There’s an awkward silence. Some crickets chirp. Off in the distance, a coyote howls. Then some tumble weeds roll by. He had a DECADE to do his job, and he didn’t. He deserves no more time. The only thing that there’s TIME FOR … is change. Change at the GM position. If we’re going to be headed down an identity of “team grit/team toughness,” let’s let another GM be the architect of it. I’m more than a little bit tired of Don Waddell’s “on the job training.”

I get it. I’m a ONE (1) voice on a blog. Nobody cares. Fine. If you STH’s, the paying customer, tell the ownership … “everything’s SUPER. Stay the course.” You’ll continue to get what you asked for.

To piggy back on my posts of late last night to Whitaker, I think he’s right that Moose should be the goalie who is shopped. He’s a 30-WHAT year old career backup, who is having a FABULOUS season! Translation: This is the HEIGHTH of his trade value. You’ll never get more for him than right now. Just like last offseason … was the zenith of Todd White’s trade value. What did Kenny Rogers sing? “Gotta know when to hold ‘em, and when to fold ‘em. Know when to walk away. And know when to run.” It’s that time with Moose. I love him. Hedberg is one of my favorite Thrashers, to be honest with you. But he’s the guy whose HIGHEST Trade Value is right now! You wait to trade him, his value decreases.

I’m not sure the same can be said of Kari and Pavelec. Pavelec … is still a developing prospect. Clearly, his best days are still ahead of him. All he needs … is to be properly developed, with a goalie coach. As for Kari, if he’s fully recovered, he can be a VERY CAPABLE goalie. He, in fact, may be this team’s #1 goalie. But at this particular juncture, what GM wants to trade for him? They want to see more. They need to know … if Kari is really healthy. And they are leery enough of him, given his substantial injury-prone past. I don’t know who’s really worth more … on the trade market. I’d guess Lehtonen, given his pedigree, would be #1. Pavelec, would probably be #2. And Moose #3. But Atlanta can still “attempt” to build around Lehtonen and Pavelec. Moose is too old for that now. He’ll turn 37 on May 5th. Hanging on to him accomplishes what, exactly?? What does it accomplish? He’s not our goalie of the future. He’s a CAREER backup. I’d rather have Lehtonen as the backup, if the organization thinks Pavelec is the #1 guy now.

Now, I hear ya, if you just said, “trade Lehtonen at the Draft, then pluck a Tier I goalie from free agency.” Well, forgive me for this, but isn’t this where we CAME IN, back in 2002?? Our options then were draft this STUD GOALIE named Kari, from Finland, or go claim Curtis Joseph off of waivers (at $8 million, with two years left on his deal with the Red Wings), or go after Eddie Belfour, Hasek, Irbe, Nabakov, or Khabibulin in free agency. Folks, let’s be honest. Free agents aren’t coming to Atlanta. And to trade for them is risky, too, since they NEVER EVER AGREED to sign here. Which means? It means … they’ll likely leave the first chance they get. I’m willing to give Pavelec a chance to develop. He’s only 22. He’ll be 23 in August. Time to cut bait????? I don’t think so. That’s very irresponsible. Kari till turn 27 in November. Old??? Over the Hill??? Career, OVERR?????? Well, not based on age, anyway. The goalie in our midst that is closer to 40 than 30, is Moose. I love him. But he’s gotta go, for whatever Don can get for him.

World Be Free

February 7th, 2010
1:30 pm

R. Stroz

February 7th, 2010
1:35 pm

What did stroz ask at the meeting?

Bob – Read what twisted wrister wrote about the meeting and you’ll know what I did at the meeting.

Rawhide

February 7th, 2010
1:40 pm

The Jimmy, Armstrong, Kane line. The JAK line

rightshot – You mean ike…we gonna JAK you up? Love it!

Bill – as always, thanks for your posts and thanks to those who post behind you. I read them all and enjoy the humor and knowledge that is routinely dispensed even though I rarely post.

Quick question – who, on the bus on during the first intermission, do you think stepped up and took hold of this team and got them to start thinking that they could come back from a 2-0 deficit and get back into the game and even win it? Who is the team member in the locker room that got it done last night and could do it again?

Buzzeng – My pleasure…thank you for reading. You are 100% correct about those who post here…I’ve always said that is the best part of this forum.

You can get some quality writeup all around the blogosphere about the Thrashers, but IMHO, the best conversations happen right here and on C-Viv’s blog….hands down.

As for your qeustion…I would venture to guess maybe Hainsey or Reasoner…maybe even Moose and/or Kubina. But I really think what we saw last night was everyone deciding it was time to step up. Either way it was good to see.

Rawhide – you forgot the portion in the Town Hall meeting where one fan called for the firing of Jeff Schultz, but i guess you can’t report that considering he works for the ajc … that was the loudest applause i heard at the Town Hall

Also, the comment made by one of the other season ticket holders regarding heatley/savard/hossa/kovy was more of an attack on Don b/c that season ticket holder was the same one who asked don to resign … i didn’t have to take notes to see that was a personal attack which fell mostly on deaf ears there. That season ticket holder did not represent the thoughts of more than 80% of the people there, including the 500 or so of us in the fan club that were there to support the thrash in nashville last weekend. The rest of your notes were dead on though … i’m personally ready for a change to this franchise and i would like to see a new identity b/c what we had before wasn’t working …

thrashville – That wasn’t a report of the proceedings by me…I was driving back from Ft. Benning and didn’t get to the arena until just before 7:00. Whitaker posted that up last night on the previous blog and I thought it was worthy to re-post here.

As for the Jeff Schultz comments, like I said, I wasn’t there…so I had no idea it was made. Sounds like Schultzie hits a nerve with Waddell and his supporters…I guess that sometimes happens when journalists are free to be crtitical and not just opine in the manner that the organization wants them to.

And it is good to see so many of the Fan Club members post here recently…last weekends trip to Nashville was a hue success and it made for a very impressive sight with all tose Thrashers jerseys in Sommet Center.

Rawhide, start being what is expected and needed on this blog

The Real Thrash – And exactly what would that be? What I have always “expected” of myself is that I set the table for discussion and allow others to come add to the converstation with their side-dished of information and observations.

Given the amount of comments posted around here lately from all sides of the issues, I think I am doing exactly what is “needed”.

Red Light

February 7th, 2010
1:51 pm

Well done R. Stroz!

Brendan

February 7th, 2010
2:04 pm

WBF, thanks for the link This Bucky Gleason didn’t mince words, did he? I enjoyed that read. I continued on to the Ken Hitchcock firing item, in Columbus. It raised my eyebrows that Blue Jackets GM Scott Howson made the decision to fire him at NOON, then let him run a 2PM practice, before firing him at 3:30PM. Of course, the bigger issue, in my mind, is why Howson waited past January 15th to fire Hitchcock. Hadn’t he seen enough, by then?

Folks, this is what I’m talking about. Nobody ever said … EVER SAID … that it’s “easy” to be a GM. GM’s get “second guessed” and “third guessed” all the time. But the bottom line is … SOMEONE has to make the tough decisions. SOMEONE DOES. And they have to be “timely” and “correct.” Often, based on “imperfect data.” And the GM’s must be held accountable for those decisions. I have sympathy for failing GM’s. But only up to a certain point.

Did I think Neil Smith got a fair shake out on Long Island? No. He was CANNED after 41 days. Largely, because Charles Wang is a certifiable moron. Did I think David Nonis got a fair chance, out in Vancouver? No. The guy had two winning seasons in three years, but they fired him simply because he didn’t put the Canuks in to the Western Conference Finals. In 2007, when Columbus fired the “village idiot” Doug MacLean, did I say, “poor guy–that wasn’t fair?” No. He deserved to be fired. He was ineffective, and he made bad choices. There’s a body of work there, to evaluate. And MacLean just didn’t get it done.

And right here in Atlanta … there are no words to justify the indefensible. For the record, Sabres fans, I think Darcy Regier is a good GM. He has terrible ownership around him, named Larry Quinn and Tom Golisano. And yes, you must also include Golisano, for he put “village idiot” Larry Quinn in charge.

Let me ask you bloggers something. Raise your hand … if you think Red Wings GM Ken Holland should be fired? Detroit is outside of the playoffs, and it’s February. Put … your hands … down. No, he should NOT be fired. You want to know what a ‘fair weather’ fan is, it’s a fan of Detroit who is screaming, “Fire Holland. Fire Babcock.” They’ve had injuries. But way more importly, Detroit has been a Top Four contender, every year, since 1993. No one should utter a “peep” of criticism their way. They are a 1st class organization, that runs itself very capably. Thank you.

What about Atlanta? Well, per Kovalchuk, New Jersey is the only 1st class organization he’s ever played for. And he’s not lying.

HookyBob

February 7th, 2010
2:05 pm

Stroz: Thanks for echoing my sentiments at the STH townhall. Donny just keeps learning from mistakes doesn’t he? If so, he’ll soon run out of mistakes to make.

A27

February 7th, 2010
2:12 pm

I don’t post often, but I have to say that I was proud to be a Thrashers fan last night and I was proud of the team to. A couple of more games like that and my ass will be back at Phillips arena. I have no problem paying my hard earned money on some hard working hockey… win or lose.

Brendan

February 7th, 2010
2:14 pm

R.Stroz, thank you for asking the tough questions. Like Renee Zelleweger says to Tom Cruise in “Jerry Maguire,” … with my need to make the BEST of things … and your need to be RESPONSIBLE … we could LOSE TEN YEARS … being “polite” (to each other). Those comments on the epiphany Zellweger has that, perhaps, her marriage in NOT in a very good place.

So, R.Stroz, I thank you for not being docile. For cornering this GM … trying to wake Bruce Levenson up from his stupor.

Thrashers27

February 7th, 2010
2:26 pm

Great game last night! The crowd was excellent and the team played as a team. Great to see!

Anyone else notice that the talked about the prominent olympic teams…went through the Canadian Olympians, the Americans and the Russians making mention of the NHL stars who were set to participate, but not a single mention of our dearly departed figure skater.

How incredible would it be for the Thrashers to make the playoffs and sweep the Devils out in the first round. That would be hilarious!

Yung JB from MTL

February 7th, 2010
2:30 pm

hey, i know Edmonton needs a goalie
send them one of our goalies and white for horcoff,moreaou, osullivan (one or two of them)

i know they want to get rid of souray also…

Yung JB from MTL

February 7th, 2010
2:48 pm

TURN ON NBC GUYS what a game in Washington

Sharon

February 7th, 2010
2:59 pm

R. Stroz… I thank you too for your pointed questions. I damn near lost my mind when I read Waddell’s comments in the paper regarding the 8 yrs of Kovy and only 1 playoff berth. Talk about deflection.

Waddell can spin it all day long, but for me, it comes down to one thing. All of our top players have marched out the door season after season. And top free agents have taken less money rather than play here. They simply don’t have faith in this franchise. That stack of unsigned contract offers absolutely SCREAMS of your incompetence. Don Waddell, I’m going to take their word over yours… every time.

Red Light

February 7th, 2010
3:00 pm

Rangers need a back-up. Philly needs a No. 1 goalie. Edmonton has Khabibulin who is hurt and they’re out of the race. Other than those two, not sure any team is really needy.

World Be Free

February 7th, 2010
3:05 pm

You know Brendan, I’d hate to be the GM in hockey. Very few GM’s ever get the respect they deserve. How many GM’s currently in NHL get the benefit of the doubt? McPhee, Holland, Lou are about the only ones that are free to do what they do with very few detractors.

I have talked about Darcy Regier in Buffalo. Darcy Regier does not hold town hall meetings. He rarely takes fan calls on call-in shows. The nature of the job is to constantly be on the defensive.
So, I give Waddell some CREDIT for at least meeting and takling the tough questions. You can question the autheticity of his responses, but at least he is there to meet the people.

Some of you may not like that last sentance, but it’s the truth.

rob

February 7th, 2010
3:17 pm

Thrashville,
If you are crying about Shcultz most recent article, which I saw you doing over there, you are the problem. It is time to turn the heat up and keep the spotlight focused where it needs to be…..squarely on DW and ASG (note to JA, you may be collateral damage here). Bettman all but said it is NOT going to let this abomination continue. It is a detrement to the league, the players, and oh yeah, the FANS in Atlanta. I actually took hope in the fact that Schultz asked those questions and got that kind of answer. Now I can only hope that we the FANS hold up our part, and that the media will follow this story to its’ end, which will be either a huge change in ownership philosophy or new ownership……either will work, and both will take DW down if he isn’t by then.

rob

February 7th, 2010
3:20 pm

WBF,
I have to think WD meeting was a direct deflection tactic designed to keep the STH from revolting, which would put the spotlight even more on the problem with ownership. Once again it sounds as though DW did his job and made believers out of the very people this organization has fleeced for a decade……dam

alex

February 7th, 2010
3:24 pm

nothink new about levenson. only wild suspicion why he felt on love with donny. no common sence whatsoever. i hope we will feel same optimistic after road trip to chi.-min.-col. but doubt. kovy haters keep digging off to find some negative about hin. in russia, canada, usa, sweden he considered same star as ove and malkin no more no less, but all expert wrong except stendec and Thrashers27. good dream to beat nj in playoff, not going to happen because according to levenson waddel here for ever. just to beat lou (not talking sweep) donny need brain surgery, but he could’t afford – not enoght money he rob from levenson. need 20 more years of robbery.

EA

February 7th, 2010
3:26 pm

Rawhide, just to clarify. DW said nothing bad about Jeff Shultz. It was the fans who gave the loudest applause when someone in the crowd asked if we could get him fired. The question was asked in jest. In fact he told a nice story about having him over for dinner at his house.

Yes, Thrasher27, I noticed a certain Russian olympian who was not mentioned.

I think the positive comments on the blog area much needed and welcome change from all of the drama of the last several weeks of the Kovalchuk ordeal. Sometimes it is nice to take a break from all of the negativity, even if it is justified. What a night last night! Never been so proud of the Thrashers. Keep it up guys.

Blueland Buddha

February 7th, 2010
3:27 pm

Hey Rawhide- I met you at Taco Mac after last nights game and wanted to say I enjoyed meeting you. While I had said my handle in some previous posts was AngryThrashFan, I decided to change it. After last night, how can one be anything but optimistic? Especially the crowd! What a great way to change the dynamic in probably THE most important game of the year! Even though today is Super Bowl Sunday, and I am actually having a SB Party, all I can think about is hockey! Wednesday cant get here soon enough. Enjoy the game, all! I look forward to being a part of the conversation on this blog through the run to the playoffs.

Rawhide

February 7th, 2010
3:30 pm

EA – Thanks for the clarification…I read the comment wrong. My apologies to Thrashville.

Blueland Buddha – Wonderful to meet you as well….pleasure chatting with ya.

EA

February 7th, 2010
3:41 pm

Rob and others, I typed this in my previous entry, but deleted it. After your comment, I have to type it again. I find it so insulting that you and others think that the STH who attended the meeting do not have a brain. Everyone can think for themselves. No one is being fleeced by DW. Everyone has their own reasons for making a financial commitment to the Thrashers. I think I speak for all of us when I say we are capable of making our decisions. Geez.

R. Stroz

February 7th, 2010
3:43 pm

Wow, I thought, for at least one game, I was watching the Atlanta Flames again. No big name stars, hard working players, physical hockey, with a few good fights mixed in to increase the energy level.

During the game, I had two thoughts:

1) The players must have watched Slap Shot twice on their trip back from D.C.

2) Someone told the players Ilya’s money was up for grabs and whoever knocked the crap out of the most Panthers players was getting a raise.

ThrashMom

February 7th, 2010
3:46 pm

Hey Rob and others who make similar comments, no one was fleeced by DW. et.al. How insulting for you to assume that everyone is so ignorant that they can’t think for themselves. Just knowing a few in the crowd from other professions, I would most likely put their academic credentials up against many who throw these constant insults at the STH.

Bob

February 7th, 2010
3:52 pm

“Read what twisted wrister wrote about the meeting and you’ll know what I did at the meeting.”

Good for you stroz, I figured that was you, but nice to have you confirm it.

You know, most of us are former season ticket holders directly because of Waddell but you still go and you speak for thousands of us. The vast majority of Thrashers’ fans got sick of Waddell and won’t come back until he’s gone, but good for you for still going and speaking the truth.

World Be Free

February 7th, 2010
3:56 pm

rob-I am just giving him credit for one thing, facing the people. I know too many GM’s that won’t do that the save their lives. This is no reflection on anything else.

SA

February 7th, 2010
3:56 pm

Hi Rawhide,

Bloggers, my Mom wants me to apologize for retyping her entry with corrections under EA to ThrashMom, one in the same. That is my nickname for her. She doesn’t want to look as loony as she feels today after celebrating following the game last night! She was in such a great mood until she read Rob’s comment! Just kidding.

Rawhide

February 7th, 2010
4:04 pm

SA – Hi kid-o…give this to your mom for me and tell her I said ‘hello”.

only, whisper…

alex

February 7th, 2010
4:06 pm

amazing same minority people hate kovy and hate shcultz, assuming they fall in love with dw. so thrasher27 and stendec you got good news yersteday – levenson promised more more years of donny services. and keep dreaming of sweeping hj in playoff. like i mentioned early his @$$ has more brain than donny head and i trust his 3 cup in assesment kovy yours. just to be in convesation for playoff thrasher need 4 point from trip to chi.-min.-col. not to easy. go thrashers without mr. waddell.

World Be Free

February 7th, 2010
4:43 pm

Yung-I know Edmonton wants to get rid of Horcoff and that awful salary of his.
How did Edmonton get in this mess?

Yung JB from MTL

February 7th, 2010
4:49 pm

euh easy answer… Haaving souray, pitkanen, khabibulin and a overrrrr paid Penner on the same team

BlueSpark

February 7th, 2010
5:04 pm

Wow; I wish I would have gone to that game. The crowd really surprised me.

Paraphrasing something I read once: “We are not at the bottom; we are at the beginning.”

JA can concentrate on developing Little, Kane, Bogosian, and Pavalec instead of having to appease a prima donna.

I would hate to see him go, but I think Moose has the most value of the 3 goalies right now. If he can be dealt for another young scorer with a few years left on his contract, I think that would be a good move. So what team in contention has goaltending issues and a young scoring winger (or center, I guess)?

POTF

February 7th, 2010
5:27 pm

Biggest beef with Schultz is that he only chimes in when times are the worst and he gets to be the bearer of the bad news.

tom

February 7th, 2010
6:05 pm

I did not see a request from you that Waddell resign for being inept. Fires the best coach they ever had and the best player. time to go Mr. Waddell.

rob

February 7th, 2010
7:27 pm

EA/ThrashMom and all STH on here PLEASE READ NOT NEGATIVE BASHING HERE,
Not going to get into an arguement with you about what your degrees/jobs/whatever are. THAT is not what I am getting at. I LOVE THE GAME OF HOCKEY. I am now a dedicated Thrashers FAN (from Buffalo and long time Sabres fan). I have been to a number of games this year and you have probably started cheering Lets Go Thrashers (if you do that sort of thing)after I repeatedly yelled it to get it started. What I am saying is that there should be a sense of accountibility to ALL the FANS. The STH, the never seen a game before first timer, and to those who make as many games as their schedule and jobs allow. It is FACT how DW has run this team. As a STH you HAVE to see this. Your INVESTMENT in the team as a STH means you should expect a return (ie hard work and a playoff worthy team. The game last night was INCREDIBLE! Where was that effort from DAY 1 this season? Who is DIRECTLY responsible for it? DW. And who is responsible for DW? ASG. READ Schultz article. THE PRESIDENT OF THE NHL SEES THE INCOMPITANCE THAT IS THE THRASHERS ORGANIZATION. So, all I am saying is, as a STH, you can MAKE a difference with this team, or you can watch the draft picks and traded FA continue to leave this place for an organization with a HOCKEY mentality. I am not degrading you or any other STH. I am asking that as a FAN of the Thrashers you demand better. For yourself, for your fellow fans, and for the players that you support. Oh, and by the way my wife and I are considering becoming STH, had to put it off this year because of money, so I will see you there soon hopefully and I hope you will see I am interested in what is best for the team and the players who call the Thrashers home.

LAC

February 7th, 2010
7:45 pm

Well thrasherville, How long have you been a hockey fan HUH ?

Ever see an Eastern Hockey League game between the Charlotte Checkers and the Nashville Dixie Flyers or New Jersey Devils in Charlotte in the 1960’s, my dad had season tickets and we knew some players and team owner Al Manch we were at all the games it was GREAT !

Did you miss only 18 home games during the duration of the Atlanta Flames ? Did you travel to Montreal to watch the FLAMES win the Stanley Cup ?

Did you have ST’s the first seven years of the Thrashers and not miss but a handful of games ?

NO NO NO NO NO

I have forgotten more about hockey than someone like you will EVER know, have you played the game ? I did at Iceland in Marietta in the 1970’s, in a summer league with some Flames players and others, ever been in a hockey fight, I have…Do you thrasherville even know what icing is ?

So shut your mouth about me not being a hockey fan, I have always
been a fan and my comments go right to the heart of being a fan. I wish we were talking about a 14 game winning streak or will we finish first in the East, but with this ownership & waddell it is hopeless.

But saying I am not a fan is BS, so get off my back and YOU try to be a little fan and maybe when you grow up you will understand the difference between going through the motions and WINNING !

War Eagle

February 7th, 2010
8:57 pm

Rawhide:

We enjoyed meeting you at The Second Fiddle in Nashville last weekend and in section 317 right before the start of the Florida game on Saturday.

As for the game…I don’t remember Kozzy being as physical as I saw him against FL, either. That was a very welcome sight. Glad to see Hainsey and Bogosian get gritty and get the team fired up and get a regulation win. This team is capable of winning games when they want to. It looked like the players and the crowd all had a good time!

DWTOO

February 7th, 2010
9:32 pm

Just feel the need to chime in onlast night’s game. The team and crowd really seemed to feed off each other – each spuured the other. The key moment was Hainsey’s fight – it seemed to wake everyone up. And I’m sure Moore’s still wondering what hit him.

We have a tailgate group that usually meets around a fire. Last night someone thru a “Kovalchuk Army” shirt on the fire as the group cheered. Think we’re all going to bring something like that to the next tailgate. Very cathartic.

One comment on the goalie situation – I would carry all three or put Letemin on IR for the year. If we trade him now the return would be minimal and with Moose’s age he may not be back anyway, Wouldn’t break up the Pavs/Moose tandem for the palyoffs, but, let all three compete next season.

Sage of Bluesland

February 7th, 2010
10:14 pm

LAC–don’t let these ignorant tools deter you from telling the truth…Take the latest emboldened stances by the sheep as comic relief, which is what it really is…

Priceless comedic gold!

It’s a shame, the kool-aid drinkers now “represent” the fans’ opinions at the Sara-Specials…Real fans like yourself gave up on this failed organization a time ago.

Oh well, at least you have some self-respect. At least you refuse to subsidize incompetence. At least you know when you’re being lied to and cheated.

These poor fools do not…so, in a way, I pity them…

Rawhide

February 7th, 2010
10:15 pm

War Eagle – HA! Il knew I’d get one of you to post sooner or later…see, that didn’t hurt, did it?

It was great to see ya both last night…and The Second Fiddle was a blast! Hope to see the both of you again soon.

World Be Free

February 7th, 2010
10:53 pm

LAC-I saw the hit on you. I was just surprised you took so long to respond!
Keep up the good work, stirring the pot and reminding everyone what the product should be.

Pittsburgh Pirate Fan

February 8th, 2010
7:44 am

Shoulda asked Waddell why the Thrashers can’t retain their top talent, but ASG has the money to retain the Hawks’ talent.

Obvious commitment to basketball over hockey.