The morning after in Thrasherville

So, the Kovalchuk era in Thrasherville officially ended last night. However, the sun still came up this morning. Well, at least I’m assuming so…it’s so rainy and cloudy out there today I can’t say that I’ve actually been able to eye-ball confirm that rumor.

Anyway…as widely speculated, Don Waddell and the Atlanta Thrashers dealt away Ilya Kovalchuk… their team captain, leading scorer, centerpiece and face of the franchise. Heading to New Jersey with him is young defenseman Anssi Salmela, who is actually returning to the Devils after coming here in the Nic Havelid trade a year ago.

Say good-bye to Kovalchuk and his potential 90-100 points per season (AP photo)

Say good-bye to Kovalchuk and his potential 90-100 points per season (AP photo)

In return for the pair, the Thrashers gain defenseman Johnny Oduya, forward Nicklas Bergfors, prospect center Patrice Cormier and the Devils first round draft pick this summer.

Let me start off with the two things I actually like about the transaction…first, there is the Oduya part of the transaction. If you tear apart the whole and examine this one part of the deal, we are swapping out Salmela for the 28-year old Swede. I think this is an immediate upgrade on defense. Certainly I think Salmela could turn out to be a fine player, but this helps in the “right now”, IMHO.

I’ll be curious to see how John Anderson shuffled the defensive pairing with Johnny in the lineup.

The second part of the trade that makes me happy…simply the fact that this whole sorted affair is finally over. The Kovalchuk contract drama that has hung over the team like…well, the rainy overcast skies that are with us today…and the team has been severely distracted by the proceedings, regardless of what some close to the organization may say. So, there is no excuse anymore…Kovy’s gone and so too the drama that sucked all the focus away form the players.

Now, with all of that said, what we are then left with is Ilya Kovalchuk…who is on pace for something like 95 points…being replaced in the lineup by Nicklas Bergfors…he of 13 goals and 14 assists in 54 games this season. He’s played a total of 63 NHL games with 28 overall points.

Really Don?…I mean, really?

Now, this isn’t meant to be a knock on Bergfors…and is it too soon to already start calling him “Bergie”? Fact is that it looks like he’s a player that can fit right into Colby Armstrong’s slot when Donny trades him away in the coming days. But how in the world can Don Waddell seriously look the fans square in the eyes and tell them that this helps us at all in any hopeful run for this springs post-season?

Then of course there are the two other pieces in the deal..a QMJHL player who cannot play in that league for the rest of the season given his suspension due to a flagrant hit to an opponent’s head…and a draft selection that will fall somewhere around pick number 26 or 27, if not higher.

Say hello to Johnny Oduya. He has 2 goals, 2 assists, a +2 rating and 18 PIM in 40 games this season (AP Photo/ David Duprey)

Say hello to Johnny Oduya, seen on left. He has 2 goals, 2 assists, a +2 rating and 18 PIM in 40 games this season (AP Photo/ David Duprey)

Those players may or may not work out in the future, and we’ll just have to wait and see how they eventually pan out…you know, much like the prospect and player Don obtained two years ago in the Marian Hossa deal.

Lastly, the two teams swapped 2nd round picks which…if I’m not mistaken…benefits New Jersey because I have a sneaking suspicion the Devils are gonna wind up a little better in the standings then are your Atlanta Thrashers.

So, as for the deal overall as a whole…color me unimpressed.

I guess what bugs the pure livin’ snot outa me the most this morning is the fact that the ONE thing I feared happening…seems to have happened. That being a trade that will more than likely leave us two years down the road no better than today and waiting to see how a couple of pick and prospects develop in order to deem the Kovalchuk transaction a “success” or not.

You know…just like we are now Hossa +2 years.

Now, let me respond preemptively to the most commonly used defense that I heard after the Hossa deal…and so far after the Kovy one. It’s the one that goes something like “But Waddell did the best he could considering the circumstances”.

Really?

Well, I just gotta be honest with ya…I am just sick and damn tired of see this Thrashers teams formed and shaped because Don Waddell found himself in a less-than-favorable circumstance. We have, for over a decade now, seen great players come and go…leaving D-Wad to have to clean up afterwards “the best he can”.

This organization needs a general manager that can direct the circumstances that make up his team…not simply “do the best he can” to make lemonade out of lemons.

After the Kovalchuk trade, the Thrashers are...

  • Closer to the Stanley Cup (3%, 7 Votes)
  • Further away from the Cup (70%, 174 Votes)
  • About the same (27%, 67 Votes)

Total Voters: 248

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Ya know…I don’t think Kovalchuk, or Hossa for that matter, rejected the offers Don Waddell made them when contract time came around. No, moreover I think it was more a rejection of what this team has become…and probably will be…under the management of Don Waddell and the Great Octocluster that is our current ownership.

In closing…I leave you with the one question that, to me, really is the only one that matters. Don Waddell possessed the crown jewel in this years trade deadline period…and we now see what he did with it. So I ask you, is this team any closer to the Stanley Cup then we were 24 hours ago…or are we a little further away?

It may be raining and cloudy outside today…but I think the answer to that is still clearly seen.

241 comments Add your comment

Matt

February 5th, 2010
10:52 am

Fire DW NOW!!! And Erste!

KovyPleaseStayotNot

February 5th, 2010
10:53 am

What does it say about Atlanta’s ownership that a guy – any guy – would turn down $101 million dollars to play here? If Kovy wants to win, he needs to go elsewhere. I see no reason for him to accept any offer -no matter how huge- if it means he’ll waste the prime of his career on a middling team which will never contend for the Cup while it’s run by this group of incompetent owners.

World Be Free

February 5th, 2010
10:53 am

We are light years away.
Hossa, Heatley, Kovy- 3 of the top 4 goal scorders of the decade all gone.

J.B.

February 5th, 2010
10:56 am

Oduya & Enstrom for a pairing is likely. they’ll be playing on the same olympic team for Sweden in Vancouver.

We may have lost kovalchuk’s scoring but we also disposed of his defensive liability.

I think our goals against are going to go down and there’s going to be alot more action toward the crease rather than out at the line.

I think Kovy became predictable to an extent and it worked against us. Now players will have to do something else other than pass back to kovy for a one-timer from the left circle.

I’m hopeful. This whole ordeal may be good for the team as long as we can keep them in town.

It’s worth noting that the dealing is surely not done with three goalies and so many pending free agents.

We could pick up some surpise pieces that will add scoring as well.

Telfo

February 5th, 2010
10:57 am

you sound like Jeff Schultz Bill. What did you expect him to get? this is a very good return for a rental and DW already said we will be making more moves pre-deadline. i assume to add a scorer or two.

maybe we will finally have a TEAM instead of superstars alone.

Lex

February 5th, 2010
11:00 am

Would any of you Hockey Ladies who are upset over Kovy’s departure like to cuddle?

Adam

February 5th, 2010
11:02 am

I wanted to say about the same because with this tool of a GM it didn’t matter if Kovy was here or not the rest of the pieces would never had been in place to go beyond the 1st round anyway. The reason I went with further was that if the AS ever kicks Donny to the curb and brings in a competent GM…

Ray Ferraro's Bobble Head Doll

February 5th, 2010
11:04 am

Did you think the team would be better off after trading Kovalchuk? That’s a little unrealistic (at this point). The value of Kovy diminished once his max salary demands were made. It essentially eliminated most teams from even thinking about trading for him (and signing him to an extension). Who was going to give up great value for a rental?

Mike

February 5th, 2010
11:05 am

Waddell needs to go, but this one is not on him. It’s on a greedy superstar. Blame the player here folks.

hip czech

February 5th, 2010
11:05 am

J.B….to echo your thought – everyone focuses on losing Kovalchuk’s 30 goals. But we are also disposing of his forever minus +/-. A 20 goal scorer who is a plus player seems to me to be a better deal.

Let’s see how we play now that we don’t have to play shorthanded for 22 minutes a game and the power play isn’t one dimensional.

Yep, what happened to the 3 goalie situation being addressed by this past Monday? Lehtonen may be gone after another start or two in Chicago, or Moose gone at the deadline. Wonder if Kozlov would waive his NTC? I saw some chatter about maybe him going back to Detroit at the deadline.

Krust

February 5th, 2010
11:06 am

Get those fire Waddell tee shirts ready. I am having one made today for the game Saturday.
Sad cloudy day. This is such a disturbing pattern. If I was some of the players I would be pissed. I hope they can get up for the game tonight. Fire Waddell now!

R. W.

February 5th, 2010
11:07 am

The scary part is that Don Wadell is gonna be in charge of making those deals as well. I hope he has a little better luck. But I sure as heck am not banking on it. I honestly think he has no clue when it comes to evaluating talent and making trades. That being said even a squirrel can find a nut somedays.

Buzz

February 5th, 2010
11:07 am

1) You can’t pay any player 20 percent of the cap.

2) The Thrashers should trade anyone of value NOW and try to get draft picks and start all over again. I would dump Hainsey, Kubina, Lehtonen, Afinogenov, Antropov ASAP. Try to find players with 1 year left on their contract and try to find 2nd round picks at least.

3) I would fire Waddell. He cannot draft, and we have hired someone that is allegedly good at it, but Waddell will ruin it somehow.

4) Start fresh, build around Kane, Pavelec, Bogosian, Little, Bergfors, Peverly. That is a good young core but you need snipers. I would keep also keep Enstrom, Valabik, Reasoner, Slater and Thorburn. I would pursue Mueller (phoenix), Filatov (columbus), Brunnstrom (dallas) and Okposo (a stretch but at least TRY).

With nice draft picks and prudent free-agent hires, we could have a quality squad in 2 years.

Badger Bob

February 5th, 2010
11:08 am

I think Don won a small battle (this trade), but it was a war of his making we never should have been in. Brendan, WBF and all the other great posters who were screaming for a contract or trade last summer look smartest in this whole debacle.

Rawhide

February 5th, 2010
11:12 am

maybe we will finally have a TEAM instead of superstars alone

Telfo – I can only hope you are correct.

Did you think the team would be better off after trading Kovalchuk? That’s a little unrealistic (at this point). The value of Kovy diminished once his max salary demands were made. It essentially eliminated most teams from even thinking about trading for him (and signing him to an extension). Who was going to give up great value for a rental?

Ray Ferraro’s Bobble Head Doll - First off…great username! I can’t say your comments are incorrect…but, like I said in the psot, my frustration lies more in the fact that Waddell was once again placed in the situtaion. There’s a reason Kovy wanted to leave…and I thin a lot of it has to do with a lack of faith that the franchise is actually moving in the right direction.

Part of that is DW…part is Octocluster.

ChippersLoveChild

February 5th, 2010
11:16 am

“Ya know…I don’t think Kovalchuk, or Hossa for that matter, rejected the offers Don Waddell made them when contract time came around. No, moreover I think it was more a rejection of what this team has become…and probably will be…under the management of Don Waddell and the Great Octocluster that is our current ownership.”

Well… DUH!!!!! :)

Daculafan

February 5th, 2010
11:16 am

I’m not extremely impressed either with the deal..and I feel ya on the whole master of our own destiny angle. I have been a supporter of D-Wad for a long while..but that has come to an end with this whole mess.

I don’t think this is ALL on him…I think that Kovy shares some of the blame for the situation we found ourselves in and I think that Jay Grossman has really over sold his client and it’s probably going to wind up biting them in that fleshy area that he sits on.

Are we any closer?…further away?…same?…I say the same..light years away…we were with Kovy and we are without him…yes he scores goals…but he also stands there with cranial-rectal inversion and watches plenty of them slip past the net minder that’s murdering himself out there night in and night out.

I think that the mentality of the team has always been driven by “give it to Kovy” now without him as a crutch I’ll be interested to see who steps up to the plate.

Honestly I’m going to be interested in seeing how well Kovy survives in the defense minded system of the Devils, where two way responsibility is on EVERYBODY..no matter what your position with the club is. I think he’ll find himself in ole Jacques dog house rather quickly and since he’s a rental I bet that the coach won’t waste any time letting him sleep there.

J.B.

February 5th, 2010
11:17 am

Buzz – Filatov is a team cancer. Left/Sent away from CBJ and then stripped of his C in his last Jr. Tourney I believe.

Hip Czech – Glad we see eye to eye. “Let’s see how we play now that we don’t have to play shorthanded for 22 minutes a game and the power play isn’t one dimensional.” That quote is spot on. Our opponents won’t know what to expect now that Kovy isn’t running the same play every trip down the ice.

Thrashers have become wildly unpredictable on and off the ice (with other trades) and that’s great.

Rawhide – There is quite a whiff of Schultzy in this column. I’m surprised. Certainly you didn’t expect us to get more than we did.

Badger Bob

February 5th, 2010
11:17 am

RW – DW isn’t the talent scout any more, Dudley is. And is shows with our draft (Kane, Klingberg, Morin) and this trade. Dudley doesn’t want to be GM – he’s at a comfortable spot of doing what he likes without having us all scream for his scalp constantly.

Buzz – I totally agree, except for Antro. He’s been selflessly picking up defensively after Kovy all year and I admire him for it. We could have over $10 M in budget room ($15 M in cap space) even with resigning Little, Pavs, Army(?), Slats, Bergfors and signing Kulda and Cormier to big boy contracts. Hello, Patrick Sharp… plus one more $5 M forward.

ChippersLoveChild

February 5th, 2010
11:18 am

My question is how do Burke, Sutter, and Sather all seem to get more for less than Don did for Kovy? At least for the here and now they did… and I want to actually, you know, MAKE the playoffs, not keep living for two, three years down the road… that is my issue with this trade.

MASHAPlayer7

February 5th, 2010
11:18 am

JB-my thoughts exactly. I still don’t like what our team has become – and am overdone sick of the owners and management – but I am sadistically excited about seeing what this franchise can do with an actual team, and not just one lazy superstar and a bunch of supporting parts. We need to start operating like a small market team, because that is what we are (think: Nashville and their “sum is greater than the parts” approach year after year).

raindawg722

February 5th, 2010
11:19 am

Here’s the quote that is most telling from the Waddell interview:

Only thing I can say, this isn’t a knock of Kovy, it’s a knock on all of us, Kovy’s been here eight years and we still haven’t won a playoff game.

While I can appreciate that Waddell takes accountability for his role in this organization’s lack of success, it does not excuse that fact. I have zero ability to evaluate hockey talent. Skating backwards is amazing to me so I won’t comment on the substance of the players that the Thrashers received in the trade. However, having grown up watching the Braves become a model for how a professional sports team should be run, I can recognize the difference between a successful organization and one that is not successful.

Successful organizations are able to develop their own talent. By paying these players relatively less than established stars for the first few years in the league, they can use the rest of their payroll to sign the one or two key free agents to fill any holes in the roster. This allows them to remain competitive with other teams that have higher payrolls.

Successful organizations do not build through free agency.

Successful organizations are often able to sign their own players and other free agents at below market value because those players want to be a part of that organization.

Successful organizations rarely lose players they want to keep.

Successful organizations are not constantly in rebuilding mode. They are able to successfully mix the young players they develop with their current established players.

Successful organizations can accurately evaluate the talent of their players and the players of other organizations. When they trade with other organizations, most of the time they will get exactly what they expected out of the trade.

The Thrashers possess none of those characteristics. I will give them credit for trying to develop their own players so they can remain competitive without having to max their cap space, but for this strategy to be effective, you have to accurately evaluate talent. Their past player personnel record gives me little faith in their ability to do so.

The Thrashers had no choice but to trade Kovy. And Waddell was right. What has the team accomplished in the time Kovy was here? But who is the one person in the organization who’s been around even longer than Kovy was? What has the team accomplished in the time that he’s been here? Don Waddell seems like a fine guy, but I wish that someone else had been making that trade for the Thrashers.

Toby

February 5th, 2010
11:21 am

R. Stroz

February 5th, 2010
11:22 am

Operation Tankland 2010 begins today. A few have pointed out the Thrashers are within points of the playoffs. That’s true.

However, the Thrashers are also within points of another lottery pick.

After we lose the next few games before the Olympic break, the Thrashers will be seeded in the lottery pick group. And thus, Operation Tankland 2010 has begun.

If anyone thinks the Thrashers will be buyers at the trade deadline, you must have inhaled. The only thing the Thrashers will be buying at the trade deadline is prospects/picks/rejects from trading Kubina, Armstrong, Hedberg, Afinogenov, and Kozlov if he’ll waive his NTC.

The ASG better be ready to lower ticket prices next season, or maybe, they already have a buyer lined up, because, after the upcoming fire sale, the Thrashers will be a Calder Cup team.

DWTOO

February 5th, 2010
11:27 am

This is a definite step back! And there’s plenty of blame to go around. As has been posted here earlier Kovy should have been traded in July – the return would have been much greater. But Waddell and others (me inlcuded) bought into Kovy’s story about wanting to be a Thrasher for life. And I wouldn’t have blamed him for wanting to move on – this outfit, the ASG, SUCKS! So we glom onto Kovy’s line get strung along all season and them the GM’s hand is forced at the last minute and we get a fire sale trade.

At this point I don’t see anyone with a brain giving us equal value for a guy who can leave in July.

ASG – please sell the team to someone who likes and understands hockey and is willing to hire the right people to run it. Until then we’re stuck.

Also – think the return was OK. Johnny O. is solid and the Bergfors kid has potential. And with Comrier we finally have our own Avery.

Yankee

February 5th, 2010
11:28 am

Yeah but does DW and the Octocluster (good name!) understand our frustration? What are we as fan’s doing about it (and the media for that matter – who is pressing DW and ownership for hard answers)? I understand not going to games but the rest of the NHL just thinks we are not a hockey town.

What is the collective effort we (the fans) are doing to tell upper management we are sick and tired of this crap?!?!

I keep thinking of the movie Major League. If they stink bad enough, we can move them to a better place (ownership’s thinking).

Mr. Heat Miser

February 5th, 2010
11:39 am

Let the caterwauling and gnashing of teeth begin.
Yeah, I’ll be at the game Saturday night. Gonna yell and lead FIRE DW chants from up above. If I get kicked out I’ll go back to the truck and get another jersey and come back in. Gonna raise as much hell as I can.

Russ

February 5th, 2010
11:39 am

…and the battle goes on between Atlanta and Columbus to see who can claim the title as the most inept franchise in the NHL.

If the NHL was more popular I think the Thrashers would be the standard by which ineptness is measured rather than the L.A. Clippers.

It amazes me that people can still defend DW. Your loyalty is unwavering in the face of unbelieveable amounts of evidence against him. At this point I think he would have to go to a game and open fire on the 200 people there to lose your support.

Bob

February 5th, 2010
11:42 am

If some of you guys think Kovy left over money, you need to stop sniffing Waddell’s jock, step back, and take a whiff of reality.

He left because of Waddell and this horrible ownership. He left and he’ll wind up taking about the same money, or less money, from someone else who has a GM and ownership team that can put together a winner.

Why would Kovy want to tie himself to play here under Waddell and know he has no hopes of a Cup for the rest of his career? Kovy even just said he’ll keep his home here and this will be his 2nd home. It’s not about money, folks. It’s about Waddell and the Spirit. Same with Hossa, same with Heatley.

The day they fire Waddell and bring a real GM in here is the day that many of us former season ticket holders will return. The day they bring a real GM in is the day we have hope again. The day they bring a real GM in is when the players will want to stay here and compete and win.

Wake me up when that day comes.

Until then, the best thing you can do is stop subsidizing the incompetence of Don Waddell and stop making excuses for him. Those fans who naively have made excuses for him from the early ones are just as culpable in this mess as Waddell is. Why? Because you enabled him and you enabled the owners to be able to retain his incompetent year through your support.

Zoomo

February 5th, 2010
11:43 am

>>I am just sick and damn tired of see this Thrashers teams formed and >>shaped because Don Waddell found himself in a less-than-favorable >>circumstance

Bill, I have to agree with you. That is the most disconcenting part of all of this. The ownership and GM have created a place where very few players want to play, and that in turn continues to let this “Groundhog Day” scenario play out.

I don’t agree with the general concensus that we have to be in a 3-4 year re-building phase. Hockey is the one sport where total chemistry can generated a winner. Think about the cups won by the Lightning and ‘Canes. It wasn’t stacked lineups, it was the right pieces in the right places.

If we can manage to do that by adding a few vets in the offseason, and get better goaltending, who knows what we might have. Hopefully, Dudley will be the guy to help pull that off and the decision making will move to him in the near future.

LAC

February 5th, 2010
11:43 am

I have to say I am disappointed in Rawhide this am, in supporting don waddell. Bill just how much more of this THING can we take ?

J(Z)

February 5th, 2010
11:44 am

Anyone think there was any chance we could’ve gotten Jokinen and Phaneuf for Kovy?

Scotty

February 5th, 2010
11:44 am

The Cup is ours.

Todd White

February 5th, 2010
11:44 am

The trade of Kovalchuk will now allow new captain Todd White to show everyone that he was the real superstar of this team. Todd will score 30 goals and have 35 assists in the last 27 games, with a +62, to lead Atlanta into the final playoff spot. Then Todd will lead us to victory against Washington in the first round, an ironic 4 game sweep over the Rangers in the second round, and an amazing game seven win over the Devils in the conference finals, when, in a moment of confusion, Kovalchuk muffs a pass on the blue line while on the power play, goes back to get the puck, and thinks he has a breakaway against Brodeur, and shoots the game winning goal into his own net…………..”Todd….Todd….wake up honey, you’ll be late for morning skate”…”Damn!”

Wingsfan0310

February 5th, 2010
11:45 am

If the NHL was more popular I think the Thrashers would be the standard by which ineptness is measured rather than the L.A. Clippers
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The Clippers may be bad, but the Lions are the standard of ineptitude!!! Give the Lions the credit they are due.

PB

February 5th, 2010
11:47 am

I am still a little sick to my stomach, but I am also actually excited that I can go watch a power play without assuming that Kovalchuk will give up a breakaway the other way. Now that he is actually gone, I realize that my distaste for Kovalchuk’s commitment level and completely aloof defensive attitude did not outweigh the joy of watching him blast one of those cannons from the point, but it was close.

I am not big on Oduya or Bergfors, and I really don’t like losing Salmela along with Kovy, but the only thing I REALLY hate about this deal is the Thrashers acquisition of that thug Cormier. I don’t care if he could be a good third liner some day, he is a cowardly piece of $#*!. As a fan of hockey, the video of his hit on Michael Tam made me want to puke, and it is not a was not his first time doing something of that caliber. There are a few of them on YouTube. If you haven’t seen them, you should check it out and form your own opinion.

I have one bottom line that I am clinging to, mostly in order to preserve my own sanity in this mess. Kovalchuk could not get this team near the playoffs. He was not enough, and I actually think he took away from the development of other players by being the entire offensive focus of this team. I think now that he is gone, we will see a mild resurgence of Brian Little, less of that stupid extra pass resulting in no shots from someone right in front of the net, and a Slava Kozlov that knows he needs to score some more to help this team survive. Max will fall off the map a little bit because nobody knew where he was going like Ilya did, but in the overall, I am hopeful that this team can surprise all of us with the level of success that they can have after losing one of the best offensive (and one of the most mediocre defensive) players on earth.

One very interesting thought that keeps me going too (and I know I might take a hard time for this), but what if Kovy really does sign back here in Atlanta after the season is over? Could there be a better team for him to have gone to than the NJ Devils for a brief respite from our playoff Siberia? What if the Devils teach him how to be not-completely-useless on defense? You KNOW the way he did it here will not fly with their organization. What if NJ gives Ilya a taste of what the playoffs are like, and he then decides that he can feed his kids on what the Thrashers would pay him, and comes back to give us that playoff feeling. With Oduya subbing for Anssi and this Bergfors kid working out? And that my friends, is my optimistic pipe-dream of the day. I hope it gives you the same comfort it gives me. And now, I am going to buy a lottery ticket. Powerball, not one of those 10%-chance-to-win jobs.

So, in summary, I’ll be in my season ticket seats on Saturday night, giving this new Thrashers team a chance to earn my renewal for next year. I’ll probably be wearing black, but I’ll be there.

Miami Screaming Eagle

February 5th, 2010
11:48 am

Today-the day after Kovy is traded reminds me of one of a line from one of my favorite Steely Dan tunes–

“When Black Friday comes, I’ll stand out by the door and catch grey men when they dive from the 14th floor”

GaVaHokie

February 5th, 2010
11:48 am

Let’s look at it this way… Would any of you be willing to give up Toby Enstrom, Brian Little, Spencer Machacek and a 1st Rounder for Patrick Marleau as a rental?

That’s almost what this deal equates to.

hip czech

February 5th, 2010
11:51 am

Hokie, well played sir…

GaVaHokie

February 5th, 2010
11:53 am

He left because of Waddell and this horrible ownership. He left and he’ll wind up taking about the same money, or less money, from someone else who has a GM and ownership team that can put together a winner.

I keep thinking of the Seinfeld episode where George turns down the NBC contract offer and then has to settle for less money… “Let me get this straight… you held out… for LESS money.” :)

Russ

February 5th, 2010
11:54 am

The Clippers may be bad, but the Lions are the standard of ineptitude!!! Give the Lions the credit they are due.

Wingsfan0310 – Sorry to have overlooked the Lions. How long was Millen in charge there? Certainly not as long as DW’s ongoing tenure. The fact that he still has a job is beyond ridiculous.

Ray Ferraro's Bobble Head Doll

February 5th, 2010
11:55 am

I agree, Rawhide. DW isn’t doing the greatest job, but I think the bigger problem is ownership. Not spending to the cap limit is ownership. My only complaint with DW on this issue, is that he should have traded Kovy last year. If the rest of the league thinks Kovy is crazy, and he ends up in the KHL next year, that may make this a little easier to stomach. As it is, I think DW did OK with the trade (at this point)…given the circumstances. DW needs Cormier and/or Esposito to show us something next year. Not sure he’ll be around for that though…eventually the owners will start pointing fingers, and DW will be an easy target.

Randy in Conyers

February 5th, 2010
11:55 am

Bottom line – DW misread the Hossa and Kovy situations. Both players weren’t going to stay and both should have been dealt prior to their last season with the Thrash. We might have ended up with players who actually want to be here and wouldn’t have had to listen to all the BS leading up to these last minute player rental trades.

Phil Myre

February 5th, 2010
11:59 am

I am as happy as a tornado in a trailer park,I have been watching for 8 years this overpaid figure skater hog the puck,give it away @ the blueline,and generally one-way this TEAM into the bottom half of the Eastern conference.I promise you that you will now see the real Nik Antropov,that will pick up the scoring and replace “MR ME”.You won’t see a winger wide open in the offensive zone with his head on a swivel looking for a floating #17 to HAVE to pass to,so that he won’t whine about not getting all the offensive looks,you also may see people crashing the net as we have been screaming about for years.I won’t spill another adult beverage when he tries to go 1 one 4 to try to up his numbers.Thanks D-Wad,I would have thought you could get more in return,but now you got lots of cash to wave at FA’s.A couple of 20 goal scorers would be nice.Get on with the other pieces to better this club!!!!

Russ

February 5th, 2010
12:01 pm

Enstrom > Oduya
Little > Bergfors
Thrashers 1st rounder > Devils 1st rounder
Marleau < Kovalchuk

Not a fair comparison IMO.

Nikita

February 5th, 2010
12:02 pm

*My question is how do Burke, Sutter, and Sather all seem to get more for less than Don did for Kovy?*

They trade from a position of strength, and we trade from a position weakness. It’s always been like that.

I’m fineish with the trade, though I asked Santa to get me Marian Gaborik or Michael Ryder and he didn’t come through.

I never want to see Cormier in blue. Everyone else I’m happy with.

And I get tired of everyone treating the team like it’s Kovalchuk and a bunch of scrubs. That’s how it was structured as long as we kept Kovalchuk and had to feed his lazy, one-way ways. But when Kovy was injured, the team was .500. That’s not good enough for a playoff berth, but with another piece or two, or even if the guys we got can contribute a little, we may see the team be fairly effective. One thing’s for sure: we won’t be seeing the other team watching and neutralizing Kovalchuk.

So, I’ll miss the guy. But I won’t miss his cost to the team.

ThrasherTim

February 5th, 2010
12:03 pm

Rawhide –
I think your post is right on. We as fans as sick of this scenario and having to wait and re-build another 2 years out. It’s pretty obvious that the elite players in this league DON’T believe in the management and ownership. When Armstrong, Kubina and Max don’t want to sign and stay, then what? More trades to ‘gain assets’? Wow, I am fired up to drive down to Philips now and cheer on….?

We have had trouble scoring goals of late with Kovalchuk and pretty decent efforts. Who is going to step up? Players should have been stepping up all along as we have been cratering since Thanksgiving. Only a handful of teams have beaten the Caps at home this year..and they are firing on all cylinders right now. Then we have a 3-game road trip before the break. 1-4 seems likely, maybe 2-3.

I am glad this is over and glad we traded before the Olympics and didn’t risk a Kovvy injury — but we are going to have to go something like 2 wins every 3 games after the break to maybe have a chance at the playoffs and obviously, unless we suddenly ‘gel’ as a ‘team’, that sounds improbable and a lottery pick again is not out of the question.

Don – thanks for the letter to fans explaining your plight — but you TOTALLY mis-read Kovvy and the tea leaves and for that alone – you should be fired. This is unacceptable…again. I have had enough.

R. Stroz

February 5th, 2010
12:07 pm

Mr. Heat Miser – I’ll be leading the FI-RE WAD-DELL charge from Section 222.

It’s time to exercise our right to free, not vile, speech.

I encourage EVERYONE to join with me Saturday night as I chant “FI-RE WAD-DELL” using “THE BULLHORN” until my voice is completely shot.

Two years ago, several mediocre “FI-RE WAD-DELL’ chants were heard throughout the building. It’s time for all to join in, have some guts, and try and save hockey in Atlanta.

If you already have seats, don’t toss them, protest, be heard.

I guarantee you the PA music guy will try to drown us out. Thrash will try to drown us out. Be relentless.

If you want to support the team and players, help extricate this baffoon that is destroying this franchise one year at a time. If you want to continue to lose lottery pick after lottery pick, do nothing.

ChippersLoveChild

February 5th, 2010
12:08 pm

I’m with Russ, I don’t think the comparision is true at all.. The Devils 1st round pick is like getting a 2nd round pick, ours is sure to be top five again… Toby is better than Johnny O.. and right now I’ll take Little over Bergors…

Russ

February 5th, 2010
12:09 pm

Scotty – Your 11:44 post had me laughing out loud.