Ilya has left the building

By now I’m sure all of you have heard or read what 680 The Fan’s John Kincade had to say regarding Ilya Kovalchuk and his eminent departure of Thrasherville. He’s as good as gone, says the co-host of the Buck and KincadeShowwhich is heard on the team’s flagship station during the drive home.

Yesterday I discussed this with John and he told me, “I can’t reveal the sources, but have confirmed it from both sides of the story”. Continuing he said, “I am 100% certain Ilya Kovalchuk will be leaving the Thrashers…I think he will be moved before the Olympic break with almost the same certainty”.

In a nutshell, Kincade is stating that Don Waddell and the Thrashers have offered the pending free agent, “The largest contract ever to an unrestricted free agent and that he turned it down”.

The number I’ve heard kicked around is a long-term deal that would pay him about $10 million per season.

Ilya Kovalchuk may soon be shaking hands good-bye with his Thrashers teammates (AP Photo/Gregory Smith)

Ilya Kovalchuk may soon be shaking hands good-bye with his Thrashers teammates (AP Photo/Gregory Smith)

Even with this revelation, John wasn’t ready to toss the only GM the Thrashers have ever had underneath the next MARTA bus coming down Peachtree Street for this latest failure. Nope…instead he pins it right on the captain.

“I think it tells me that the Kovy camp song and dance about ‘wanting to be here’ was obviously a load of crap”, said Kincade. “All Waddell can do is offer him a great contract, if he wanted to be here as his camp has said repeatedly he would be here”.

Me? Well, sorry…I certainly see where my pal John can come to that conclusion. But the team’s inability to retain big-name players is a major issue in Thrashervilleand, in this fan’s humble opinion, responsibility rests squarely on the shoulders of the man who is paid major bucks to do just that…convince the Savards, Hossas and Kovalchuks to remain here.

Along with the Kovy bomb Kincade dropped on us yesterday, he also indicated the he has been led to believe Kari Lehtonen has played his last game as a Thrasher and he will be moved potentially to Dallas or St. Louis.

And none of these reports came with a (k3) disclaimer at the end of them.

Also reported yesterday was this line in Chris Vivlamore’s latest blog entry…

“Thrashers general manager Don Waddell had no comment other than to say that the franchise and Kovalchuk’s agent have not had any new talks in more than a week. Both sides currently have proposals on the table that differ in salary and length of contract.

Waddell was in Philadelphia last week scouting the Flyers and Islanders. It also has been reported recently that the Kings and Bruins are interested in obtaining Kovalchuk.

Several NHL teams, including the Flames and the Rangers, have cleared salary cap space recently.”

Now, let’s fast-forward to the Taco Mac Post-Game Show hosted by radio voice of the Thrashers Dan Kamal and TV color analyst Darin Elliot. As I was making my way home from the latest disappointing 1-goal loss of the season, I listened as they made reference to the number of close losses the team has suffered this year. I believe it was Elliot who observed that… and I am paraphrasing… “If the entire team was on-board for all these games, including the captain, then how many of those defeats could have been overcome”.

Reading between the lines…Ilya has left the building!

Given all of that, I don’t think it’s too far of a stretch to believe that the whole Kovy saga is just about ready to wrap itself up in much the same fashion that the Hossa saga of just two seasons ago did. Don Waddell…once again…is going to be forced to trade away a key player, maybe even the key player, of the franchise because he was unable to convince said player to remain with the organization he general manages.

Of course, many will say that Kovalchuk’s impending departure will actually be a good thing for the organization. Yeah…maybe. We could get this player…or that group of players, maybe even along with some draft picks…upgrade the team and continue to improve.

Uh-huh…and didn’t we hear the same thing just two years ago as well?

Since that time, the team tanked to finish the 2007-08 season with 76 points…finished the following season with 76 points…and, with Tuesday night’s loss, are heading towards something around 83 points this time around.

If Waddell “improves” the team as well as he did with the Hossa trade, the team should be closing in on the 90 point mark somewhere around…oh… 2015.

As I have opined before, I’m not really bothered with the thought of life in Thrasherville A.K., (After Kovy). If he’s looking to move on, then…see ya! But what does make my stomach feel kinda icky is the thought that we are going to be sitting here 2 years down the road with nothing, zilch, zero, nada to show for the transaction that sent him packing.

That, plus it will also mean that the Thrashers franchise will be starting over… yet again…building around another player or set of players. And that the same man who has been the architect of the first two “five year plans” will be sitting down to the drawing board to pencil up yet a third one.

Yes, I feel that Kovy has indeed left the building. Not just the “building” that is Philips Arena…but the “building” that has gone on for a decade now with so little to show for it.

And Now…About Last Night

I’ll keep this short and sweet. The Thrashers lost …again…to Antero Niittymaki, this time 2-1 to he and the Tampa Bay Lightning. He is now 16-0 against Atlanta. I fear we shall never break this Niitty-curse.

The Thrashers outshot the Bolts 27-24.

Ondrej Pavelec stopped 22 of the 24 SOG he face…all 21 shots after he saw 2 of the forst 3 get past him.

Wasted in this effort was a Todd White goal, score in the second period when he neatly deflected in a Mark Popovic shot. Not good at all when the team isn’t able to net a win on the night White scores his one goal for the month.

The loss drops the Thrashers to 24-23-8 and drops them to fourth in the Southeast Division and eleventh in the Eastern Conference. Boston is in twelfth place with 55 and they play in Montreal tomorrow night. The Islanders are in thirteenth place with 54 points and are in Tampa Bay Thursday night.

Happy Birthday Carly

I want to wish a happy birthday to the lovely and vicarious Carly…a.k.a. Tony C’s “baby-mama”. She was in attendance with Tony over in section 117 and I had the pleasure of spending some time with them in Taco Mac after the game.

That, Tony C., is a great gal!

211 comments Add your comment

GaVaHokie

February 3rd, 2010
10:12 am

1) Last summer, the Thrashers weren’t willing to bring Zherdev when Kovy all but signed him himself.

That’s because Zherdev wasn’t willing to “audition” like Afinogenov agreed to do… he probably wanted $4-5 million which was probably a gamble.

… I don’t fault that decision.

GaVaHokie

February 3rd, 2010
10:14 am

Kovalchuk pissed me off last night taking a line change on the breakaway that led to St. Louis’s game winning goal… so, I said my final goodbye’s last night.

R. Stroz

February 3rd, 2010
10:15 am

Just a reminder: Do you know who Ilya Nikulin’s agent is?

It’s Jay Grossman.

Miami Screaming Eagle

February 3rd, 2010
10:23 am

GaVa-I totally disagree, this IS a hockey town with the right hockey team. Not the crap we have been forced to watch over the last 10 years!

Take the current team and their track record since 1999 to another town and the building would be half empty there too. Do you want a list of cities that have abandoned their teams over the last 15 years, when it was clear that management did not care?

St. Louis, Chicago, Buffalo-all hockey towns

Give is a commitment from the top and see the barn fill up again, like it did in the early years when we had some hope!

Russ

February 3rd, 2010
10:26 am

10 yr plan – I think you will also see Kovy play a two-way game for his new team for the remainder of this season, which will be very frustrating for Thrasher fans. He will be motivated with a decent team and to “earn” his next big contract. It seems like he comes out each season and plays effectively both ways for about 20 games before he regresses to his typical one-way play. So, I think whoever trades for him will reap the benefits this season, but at some point next season the real Kovy will show himself.

R. Stroz

February 3rd, 2010
10:27 am

Guys aren’t trying to leave because of Don Waddell… they’re trying to leave because Atlanta is a shitty hockey town.

BULLSH!T

Waddell has emptied the building for the past ten years with his drivel and excuses. Why should the fans continue to put up with this crap without repercussions.

GaVaHokie – Go up to TJ’s and ask Tim Eccelstone about the Atlanta hockey market in the 1970’s, before the influx of northerners came to town. The OMNI rocked.

The empty building is a symptom of the problem: Don Waddell.

Bob

February 3rd, 2010
10:28 am

Waddell should have set a deadline of the opening of training camp for Kovy to sign and if he wouldn’t, then you deal him at that time. It shows Waddell’s ineptness that he let Grossman lead him around by the nose for all these months until we sit here today just waiting for the headline to show up on the page and begin to cry about the Colby Armstrongs we get in return.

It has been obvious to many of us for years that Waddell is incompetent. If he isn’t fired after this year, there’s just no hope left. The only thing that is going to turn this club around is a competent GM being brought in. But I fear that we’re going to be subjected to a Waddell presser where he extolls the potential of the prospects and draft picks we get in return for Kovy, and then we are subjected to next year’s Ken Klee/Uwe Krupp signing to replace Kubina, etc.

If it wasn’t all so sad, it would be pretty darn funny.

Nikita

February 3rd, 2010
10:28 am

*Well, why shouldn’t Kovy try and improve the team?*

a. “improve,” for Kovy, means “bring in my countrymen to make my line more effective” — it doesn’t mean “bring in better players to make the team function better” or “recruit better talent” or whatever. b. because that’s not Kovy’s role, or shouldn’t be in a properly run organization.

*How well has Waddell done over his ten year tenure? How many years have the Thrashers made the playoffs in a league where half the teams make the playoffs each and every season.*

We already agreed on this. He hasn’t done well until recently — and we can argue about how well since, say, the beginning of the ‘08-’09 season. But how is this entirely Don Waddell’s fault when Ilya Kovalchuk was on the ice for a large portion of the same failing time, and demonstrated failure at various points along the same trajectory?

*Who else has Waddell bring in the last few years…Ken Klee, Jason Williams…What a joke…What a commitment to winning…bringing in Jason Williams to replace Marion Hossa…bringing in Todd White as a top tier center to keep Marion Hossa on the team.*

Ken Klee was consistent with the constraints on Waddell at that time, which were an ownership that didn’t want to pay and a coach who couldn’t handle developing players. We both know Jason Williams isn’t a 1 to 1 trade for Hossa. I continue to think that the trade was not equal value, but couldn’t be done any better given Hossa’s circumstances, which incidentally involved issues with Kovalchuk. Again, why’s this all Don Waddell’s fault? Because he’s a convenient scapegoat?

*Waddell always has an excuse, never a solution.*

I get sick of hearing from Waddell, and I’m not a big fan of his. But I think it’s a mistake to discount all the other factors in his decisions, including the ones we can’t see.

drajax

February 3rd, 2010
10:32 am

we didn’t or couldn’t win with Kovy despite being him being an exceptional player. Want to win right away? lets get some defensemen who can defend; players not afraid to take or give a hit; a new coach who can light a fire under the team would also help because from what I see the team doesn’t have the sufficient drive to win every game, some games most of the team takes off. We need an instigator, someone like Avery, maybe that will inspire this bunch. The team needs some punch, a personality, truthfully right now I’d take a team made up of Slater, Thorburn, and Kane clones, with Kubina and Enstrom clones on defense. The team should not give up on Bogosian, he has all the traits of a great player.

George

February 3rd, 2010
10:34 am

Unfortunately ATL needs to clean house from the top. The ownership does not have any heart or passion for the sport. I certainly agree that Kovy can make $9M+ per year where ever he decides to go; that being said why would he stay in Atlanta where the stands are half filled every game and no sign of change. Atlanta is a city that ONLY supports it’s pro teams if they win. One player move here is not enough to change the direction of the team and it’s future in Atlanta.

- Organization – The ownership has to change and with that DW. Anderson has a good system unfortunately the team has to execute and this team does not have a natural born leader. Get the NHL involved in stabilizing the organization since the clock is ticking for hockey in Atlanta. Although the problem is the ownership Waddell has done nothing to keep the star players in Atlanta and has rebuilt the team numerous times without success. We need a GM that can call it as it is and not be just a “yes” man to ownership just to save his job.

- Team Leader – ATL has been involved in 30+ 1 goal games most of them disappointing loses; a proper team captain who can communicate and leave his heart on the ice would not allow that to happen. Kovy is a highly skilled player that I believe still has his best years ahead, however he is not a true captain or leader YET. Putting him to team captain was premature and only done to appease him during the negotiations.

- Coaching – You can’t only blame Kovy’s lack of leadership. Anderson is good but he has to be better. It’s the coaches job to prepare the team for the game and in almost every case the Thrashers are playing from behind starting the second period. You don’t win too many games that way.

- Trade now before another chance goes by for the playoffs
– KARI LEHTONEN (too many injuries), PAVELEC and HEDBERG are a good 1-2 punch in goal.
– VYACHESLAV KOZLOV (I believe passion has left his game)
– Kovy (for obvious reasons) .

- Get the most you can now, trade for a high draft choice, some youth, 1 potential leader and with the money saved on Kovy get another top scorer and defensive defenseman during the summer.

We need a hockey team that can fill the stands to save the franchise. That means filling several missing elements, Ownership that cares, a GM that manages and a new “face” to the franchise which is a born leader.

Mrs. Zoomo

February 3rd, 2010
10:34 am

I can’t take this anymore either….if he is going to be traded, just do it.

Chris

February 3rd, 2010
10:40 am

Whoever said we’re the LA Clippers of hockey has absolutely nailed it.

Smoothie

February 3rd, 2010
10:41 am

I think we should make this selfish, money-grubbing Russian play out the string in ATL or perhaps ship him off to Edmonton for Ethan Moreau, Souray and a prospect. Then he’ll have complete control over what team he gets to screw over with an overvalued contract.

Schroeder

February 3rd, 2010
10:41 am

I posted a comment on Viv’s blog a little while ago stating that this entire sideshow was a charade by #17 as he had no intention of ever re-signing.He has put forth this mantra of “I want to remain a Thrasher” since this all started.I’m calling BULLSHET,if this “organization”(Ive seen monkey shet fights at the zoo that were more organized)has offered the amount of money and years that is now coming out and he still won’t sign,all that posturing he did was to keep his image from being tarnished,He is an assbag and the 4 stooges(asg and wadell)could not close an umbrella,much less a deal of this magnitude.Stroz is dead on,they have never been able to re-sign an RFA.Trade the slug and get it over with.Change the “system” or change the coach,people say that “trap defense”and low scoring games are boring.Winning games is Not boring.NJ is going to the playoffs with a boring game,are we? I think not.If the “Braintrust”of this org can find someone desperate enough to take Ilya off our hands and get back a couple of decent players and a prospect or picks,I hope that Forrest Gump and Co have the sense to take it and run like they stole somethin’. Please for the love of God, do something right for a change!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

R. Stroz

February 3rd, 2010
10:43 am

Again, why’s this all Don Waddell’s fault? Because he’s a convenient scapegoat?

Well what is the general managers job? So who is at fault? Who brings in the players?

Is Waddell the only GM in the league that faces challenges?

Waddell’s “success” as a GM speaks for itself.

GaVaHokie

February 3rd, 2010
10:44 am

Miami… fair enough… I’m just saying there is nothing to support that statement… I think this MIGHT BE a hockey town with the right hockey team… what’s the proof?…a sold out All Star game and a sold out Playoff series against the NY Rangers?

As far as taking the team to another city… The cities you listed are tradional markets with history… I think most players would say it’s safe to sign in Chicago, Buffalo, or Boston when the team is bad because “surely things will get better, they have to, there’s too much history here”… Why would Tomas Kaberle NOT want to leave Toronto? Because he knows, eventually things have to get better.

I don’t think that can be said about Atlanta. The Thrashers are only 10 years old and have never spent to the cap… the first five years they didn’t even spend over $35 million… there are no signs telling a player “surely things will get better”.

Hockey Biltong

February 3rd, 2010
10:46 am

On fans – I’ve surfed a couple of Hawks games on the tube and they aint exactly bristling with fans either. All the while having a great season. It would make a difference to the players to have a 3/4 full arena.
On Kovy – there are good reasons to say goodbye. His first few years were learning years. He developed slowly, albeit with fantastic skills. He is in his prime now and most bloggers on this site feel he is wasting space by not playing a strong, responsible 2 way game.
My Red Kovy sweater is polarising me. I hate it but can’t leave the house without it….

MrsDWTOO, Russian, WBF,Blue Note and lurker friend, nice to meet you all last night!! Wild Bill, sorry we didn’t hang with you in Nashvegas!
May the following weeks or months bring us winning hockey in Atlanta…….

May we all

j nes

February 3rd, 2010
10:48 am

If the thrashers have to trade #17 I hope they can at least make it a package deal and send him off with the third jerseys. I dont care what we get in return because that would be addition by subtraction.

GaVaHokie

February 3rd, 2010
10:49 am

Just a reminder: Do you know who Ilya Nikulin’s agent is?

It’s Jay Grossman.

I thought it was Allan Walsh.

Nikita

February 3rd, 2010
11:08 am

*Well what is the general managers job? So who is at fault? Who brings in the players?*

The GM’s job is to acquire the players, given his coaching staff and ownership and authorization to act. All of those factors have been sucktastic for pretty much the entire length of the franchise. Let’s see…1. flakey authorization 2. to spend too little 3. coaching that can’t handle rough talent 4. no coach at all to even maintain specific types of talent, much less develop it and 5. a fundamental lack of context, created by an ownership group that has no background and won’t pay to acquire it. plus 6. Some straight-up horrible luck. ex: Rucchin and Heatley.

*Waddell’s “success” as a GM speaks for itself.*

Let me repeat: I’m not a fan of Don Waddell. But I think he’s done reasonably well in the last two years, and I get tired of seeing blame placed on him when it belongs on him on his coaches, on his players, and on his ownership. Especially when the failings of some of those are glaringly evident.

Hockey Biltong

February 3rd, 2010
11:12 am

I am a fan of TOOL. Well done Somaatl95!

Barry

February 3rd, 2010
11:13 am

Ya I’m losing faith fast this team can make the playoffs. They powerplay still continues to struggle for over 2 months. Kovy still refuses…not can’t…REFUSES to play any sliver of defense. Thrashers still can’t seem to understand YOU NEED NET TRAFFIC not only to screen goalies but bang in rebounds. For a team that supposedly is the best team we’ve had Thrashers are still a .500 hockey club. Please if Kovy isn’t signed Waddell better be out the door at the of this season if not sooner. This franchise is going no where fast unless it get’s moved to another city.

ChippersLoveChild

February 3rd, 2010
11:20 am

Lol, Nikita, are you sure you’re not a fan of Don? Because you sure are quite the apologist for Don….. “The blame lies on his coaches, on his players…” Who do you think hired those coaches and brought in those players? Stop contradicting yourself.

ChippersLoveChild

February 3rd, 2010
11:20 am

Barry – “This franchise is going no where fast unless it get’s moved to another city.”

Wrong… this franchise is going nowhere fast unless we get new owners…

Spud Webb

February 3rd, 2010
11:21 am

WBF, I swear to god we’re brothers, both from upstate and closet sabre fans and a lot of the same views!!! Great posts from a lot of folks on here as usual!
“Marc Savard
Dany Heatley
Marian Hossa
And now, Kovy-they are all doing the same thing
So tell me what’s wrong with this picture?
You can also line up every Tier 1 free agent.
Even Manny Malholtra!

Tell me the one destination they are all avoiding…..”

I mean look at that, 4 STUDS and we’ll keep NONE of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Blame can/will go to 3 spots, the ASG, DW and Kovy. Nobody is innocent here. I will be sure to booooooooooooooooooooooooooooo all of them. It starts with the ASG, if we want to show everyone that we’re a real franchise, this deal would’ve been done a long, long time ago, see rick nash. They’ve been blowing smoke up STH &sses for years now. A small signing here, trading for Kubina (who will also be gone after this season), the wool being slowly pulled over our eyes. We’re NOT bafoons, we’ve known all along this was going to happen, but we bloggers CHOSE to hope that this wasn’t the case. DW will never again be taken seriously in the NHL, and he used to be HIGHLY respected. Now Kovy, Kovy has also pulled it over our eyes, “i wanna stay here”, “i love ATL”, “i wanna see us in the right direction”. BS, Kovy, you’ve known that when this deal is over you’d be gone. Shame on all of them, because in the end of all of this BS soap opera, the folks who suffer are us, the fans. SO SPUD WEBB IS GIVING A GIANT BIRD TO THE ASG, DW & ILYA KOVALCHUK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go sabres!!!!!!

Viking

February 3rd, 2010
11:25 am

If the offer of “largest contract ever” is true and it was turned down, I am very happy it was. It also appears to be more to the story, otherwise I do not get why Kovy would not yet already have signed.

I have a hard time imagine any other club than ours making a financial commitment of this magnitude for many years to come. The Thrashers have an additional factor to worry about in satisfying Kovy fans like no other organization has. The rare defensive wholehearted efforts Kovy makes are usually due to a self inflicted lost puck. A one way player is simply not worth the kind of money that is rumored. It is also crazy to commit to a long term deal resulting in a future top salary for a player in his late thirties, which also for years diminishes the available money that can be spent on the rest of the team.

It really sunk in last night as Kovy was boo’ed after his last offensive zone screw-up. Perhaps his display of frustration after the signal reflected that his career as a Thrasher ended with boos.

By the way, did you know that Thrashers have have a disproportionate 3 players in agent Jay Grossman’s 10 man roster of active NHL players? (Hedberg, Salmela & Kovalchuk)

My smiling Kovy bobble-head with eyes gazing at the sky, is more than ever depicting a player that has dreams of the biggest contract – somewhere else….

Rawhide

February 3rd, 2010
11:25 am

Ya know gang…we can pick and choose each and every one of the deals, drafts and happenings of the Thrashers and Don Waddell over the past decade to debate.

DW did trade Cobourn for Zhitnik…which was a USDA, grade ‘A’ disaster.

DW did trade Exelby for Kubina…a trade I feel most would agree was a good one.

DW did draft Patrik Stefan over the Sedin twins as well and Kari Lehtonen over Jay Bouwmeester. I think those have turned out to be less-than-good selections…especially if Kari is traded away soon, as rumored.

DW did pick Jimmy Slater, which is turning out to be a good thing….and then there is Evander Kane from last summer.

So…we can see all of the good and all of the bad.

But I choose not to judge the parts of the sum…but the whole. And that, my friends, is not very good at all.

Under Don Waddell’s management, the Thrashers have 297 wins, 390 losses, 61 overtime losses and 45 ties. We have exactly one playoff appearance and zero playoff wins.

But that is not the entire story. The GM’s job is run the business of the organization…not just the in-ice product. Part of that responsibilty includes getting people’s butts into the seats for games. The past 2-1/2 seasons the team has played to half-empty seats more times than not.

So, after 11-1/2 years on the job… 9-1/2 seasons played… eleven NHL entry drafts with three overall #1s, one #2, one#3, one #4, one #8…a total of 8 top-ten picks…the Thrashers are little better off in the standings then when Don Waddell’s first five year plan came to an end.

But worse than that…they are far worse off then they were in regards to attendance.

And now…the player Waddell set out to build the team around is about to be traded away.

This, simply put, equates to epic fail.

Period.

DWTOO

February 3rd, 2010
11:30 am

Darn Rawhide – Look what you started here. Giving credence and space to a radio host whose credability is only surpassed by Eklund’s. Kincaide’s job is to generate ratings – the only thing that generates ratings is a story that will stir things up. If he reported hat Kovy was close to siging no one listen. Between Chris V’s and your blog he’s getting more pub than he deserves. He’s a hockey guy (or claims to be) who pretty ignores the Thrahsers and regularly trashes Kovy. And all of a sudden he’s a journalist. Give me a break.

We’ve allowed a prima donna and an incompetent whose had more time that he deserved to become our focus. It’s a distraction unworthy of our attention.

We’re in the playoff race – we’ve lost a couple of tough games, but, we’re still there. Last night we lost to a goalie who stood on his head.

We should be concentrating on the playoff race and let these buffoons go on their way.

How about Marty Reasoner last night? He set up more scoring chances short handed than the our power play!

Somaatl95

February 3rd, 2010
11:33 am

Thanks Biltong! Read what Mr Heat Miser said about the town needing an enema and I though of Tool, for the obvious reference. It was either that or the Joker from the first batman movie in 1989. I wanted to do the whole song but would have taken WAAAAAYYYYY too long to edit for content :)
Last time I saw TOOL was at the Coca-Cola Arena…. errr… Philips Arena… and it was one of the best shows of my life.
The Thrashers need to sell to Ted Turner or Arthur Blank – so far the only owners of Atlanta teams that gave a squat about the product given to the fans. Then they need to bring in a GM of John Schuerholz proportions to manage the team more than just GENERALLY! I like JA, but we need an even system that not only encourages scoring, but defense as well – and players that play lazy (like making a change in the midst of the opposition on a game winning breakaway) should be sat. We Atlanta fans are tired of losing. Remember the Tomahawk Chop? The Dirty Bird? They came to be from fans being excited about winning teams. Right now the Thrashers just give us all that feeling like we’ve been forced to take a fleet enema and all we want is to flush it all away and feel better.
I feel sorry for the person assigned to clean up the collective mess in the toilet of our current situation.

Rawhide

February 3rd, 2010
11:36 am

DWTOO – Sorry buddy…but that was a story I simply could not let go by without comment. As for Kincade, we will simply have to agree to disagree there. After spending some time with him, and seeing as a number of his “off the record” predictions have come to pass…I gotta go with my gut feeling that he’s giving us the straight story as he knows it.

I agree 100% about Marty last night. He is a valuable assset to this team. I thought Little played well too.

BTW…so good to see you along with the lovely and charming Mrs. DWTOO last night!

Nikita

February 3rd, 2010
11:37 am

Lol, Chipper, I’ll listen to what you have to say when you learn to read — “on him on his coaches, on his players, and on his ownership.”

So I left out a comma — you apparently disregarded the two words that didn’t fit your preconceived notions.

DWTOO — Reasoner was a stud last night. And actually I thought we played well in some regards — on the PK, on certain lines.

ChippersLoveChild

February 3rd, 2010
11:44 am

Right, I saw what you put Nikita, you are blaming pretty much the entire organization from top to bottom, way to really lay the hammer down and single one person out. The fact is DW is responsible for three of the things you’ve listed, himself, his players, and his coaches… he hires them and brings them in here… so, again, the blame lies on the hands of Waddell, one good offseason, in which we brought in Rick Dudley to hold his hand, does not attone for his sins of the past 10 years. Adios Teflon Don, we knew you all too long.

R. Stroz

February 3rd, 2010
11:45 am

On a lighter note, did Grossman call the VP of merchandising at Dick’s Sporting Goods and tell him to put the Atlanta Thrasher Kovy jerseys on the clearance rack last fall?

R. Stroz

February 3rd, 2010
11:51 am

GaVaHokie – Well, we’re both wrong. Nikulin’s agent is Scott Lites.

J.B.

February 3rd, 2010
11:55 am

sidenote: what’s up with the picture of the orangutan barfing? And why is that woman taking a picture of it?

Tim

February 3rd, 2010
11:57 am

Not going to side with DW or IK here. But as much as I like IK, I think it’s time he goes for this organization to move foward. We play hockey that is too predictible, especially when on the Power Play. With IK gone, it would force us to be more creative. However, just like when Hossa’s exit, missing a 50 goal 100 pts player in the lineup will surely affect a lot of things.

ChippersLoveChild

February 3rd, 2010
11:59 am

Side note, can anyone tell me the trade that netter San Jose our first round draft pick in 2005? I’m at work and with restricted access to pretty much everything I am relying on wikipedia, so obviously it could be wrong, but it says in the 05′ draft San Jose had our first round pick (we ended up picking 16th that year) and drafted Setoguchi… How did they acquire this pick? I’m drawing a blank here.

Spud Webb

February 3rd, 2010
12:06 pm

Tim, I don’t disagree, but here is the problem. Dandy Don has sat on this wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to long now. We’re going to get some pucks, a 12 pack of molsen (good beer) and 3 players to be named later!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I mean, why wasn’t DW in on the Phenouf deal?? Affordable player available and we sit on it??? It’s a joke. We’re going to get Richards from philly and 6 4th round draft picks for Kovy?? Unacceptable…DW should’ve had this worked out, traded or signed WAY before this.

R. Stroz

February 3rd, 2010
12:10 pm

Waddell traded the #8 pick to move back to the #12 pick for a second round draft pick that ended up being Chad Denny. Subsequently, Waddell traded the #12 pick for the #15 pick, which ended up being Alex Bourret, and a second round draft pick, which ended up being Pavelec.

That worked out well didn’t it.

Way to go Donny, way to go…

Daculafan

February 3rd, 2010
12:11 pm

If Kovy wants to be a $11+ million a season man, then he needs to step up and do all the things that come with such a price tag. I don’t think Alex Ovechkin would mail it in as bad as Kovy has of late. In fact, Alex was pushing his game BEFORE the big contract and his play has elevated to new levels AFTER his big payday. IMHO Kovy hasn’t truly been the captain he should be because he doesn’t understand what being CAPTAIN truly means to a team. Steve Yzerman, Joe Sakic, Mark Messier – these are players that understood what was expected of them as captain and even when they had off nights they were still motivating their teams towards greatness. Yes…someone will pay Kovy’s price tag this summer, but as to what value they’ll get is a mystery.
The Thrashers need to go ahead and deal Kovy, announce that Waddell is either being fired (which is highly unlikely)or being made into Executive VP of Paper clips for Thrashers and elevate Dudley into GM position. Thrashers ownership needs to stop handling the team lika an unwanted science experiment. Get serious about winning, not worried about tax write-offs and losses. In Atlanta, winning teams put people in the seats and cash in the coffers. Support for the pro teams in Atlanta has always been like that. Teams winning: people come out of the woodwork to watch. Teams not doing so good: so we have most of the core fans only watching. There is a very good core of hockey fans in Georgia. Some of them have been in love with the game since the Flames, some grew up on the play of the Knights and others discovered it through the Thrashers.
Star players will always be on the move. No one is ever untouchable. Life will go on after Kovalchuk.

This…totally agree with you Mark

waffleboy

February 3rd, 2010
12:12 pm

Way to stand up after the game and be a man Kovy! Slipping out of the locker room without taking questions is just the kind of captain you have turned out to be. Get him the hell out of here!

J.B.

February 3rd, 2010
12:13 pm

I agree. Not speaking to the media at this juncture and after that kind of game is a horrible thing for a Captain to do. Definitely a poor choice.

R. Stroz

February 3rd, 2010
12:17 pm

IF the Thrashers want to see my money next season, they’ll need to fire Waddell and NOT hire Mike Milbury, Don MacLean, or Pierre McGuire.

Dwayne

February 3rd, 2010
12:31 pm

Mark my words, wherever he goes, he will be a madman on defense and score 40 plus goals a year. Who wants to bet….get out your wallets.

R. Stroz

February 3rd, 2010
12:39 pm

Here’s an interesting question:

Will the ASG clowns, trying to save money, force Waddell to trade Kovy before the Olympic roster freeze in order to avoid paying three weeks salary, prior to the best and most desperate offers materialize before the trade deadline on March 3rd?

GaVaHokie

February 3rd, 2010
12:39 pm

On a lighter note, did Grossman call the VP of merchandising at Dick’s Sporting Goods and tell him to put the Atlanta Thrasher Kovy jerseys on the clearance rack last fall?

I’ve been thinking the same thing for the past month. :)

GaVaHokie

February 3rd, 2010
12:44 pm

Stroz… I have a feeling we’ll get hosed on March 3… I’d much rather trade before the Olympics. Especially while so many teams think they have a playoff chance.

GaVaHokie

February 3rd, 2010
12:47 pm

Dwayne… of course Kovy will score 40+ goals… but what will his +/- be? ;)

Mrs. Zoomo

February 3rd, 2010
1:01 pm

R. Stroz – when Zoomo came home with his clearanced priced Kovy jersey in the fall I said “does Dick’s Sporting Goods know somethiing about Kovy that we don’t?”

Sharon

February 3rd, 2010
1:06 pm

No, not the LA Clippers of hockey… that’s too generous.

We’re the Detroit Lions of hockey.

How awful is that?