Loss in Pittsburgh extends Thrashers losing streak to nine

With Tuesday night’s 5-2 loss in Pittsburgh, the Thrashers losing streak now stands at nine straight…the last seven coming on the road. Since defeating the Dallas Stars 6-5 in overtime back when there was still seven shopping days left before Christmas, Atlanta has played to a 0-6-3 record…a level of play that has seen them go from an 18-12-3 record and sixth place in the conference to 18-18-6 and are now but a point away from 12th in the east.

With the win, Pittsburgh snapped a five-game losing skid of their own.

During the nine-game nightmare, the Thrashers have been outscored 19 to 41 despite the fact that the S/G to SA/G ratio has almost been even, Atlanta being outshot by an average 31.2 to 30.1.

Jim Slater accounted for all of Atlanta’s offense, scoring two goals…yes, I said Slater scored two goals. His first tied the game at one after taking a Chris Thorburn pass, broke through up the middle and beat Brent Johnson via the five hole. His second was unassisted and got the Thrashers back to within a goal after Pittsburgh scored twice after his first one.

The loss now brings to an end the seven-game holiday road trip for the Thrashers. The OH!-5-2 record nets them a grand total of 2 points out of a possible 14 available.

Un-good!

The Thrashers will look to avoid making the streak ten-consecutive losses Thursday night when the Ranger head to Thrasherville. Yeah I know…they are going to let ‘em play at home again. The 20-17-5 Rangers will be traveling from NYC after playing the Stars Wednesday night.

Opie Roughed Up…Again

In his first start since being pulled after one period of play last week in Boston… allowing 3 goals on 10 shots…Ondrej Pavelec looked sharp in the first period, stopping all 12 shots he face. But as the second period unfolded, the Penguins were able to capitalize on counterattacks and wide-open spaces in front of Pavelec’s goal.

For the game, Opie allowed the 5 Penguins’ goals on 37 shots and is now 9-12-3 on the season with a 3.58 GAA and .901 SV%.

While I can’t blame the loss solely on Pavelec, he again showed me that he just isn’t ready for prime time right now. I wish John Anderson would simply go with Hedberg on a nightly basis and start Opie only on back-to-back situation and/or spot starts. That’s not a guarantee for success, mind you…but right now Moose gives us the better chance for wins when in the nets, IMHO.

Oh…and the last time Pavs started a game and did not allow at least 3 goals?…The night before Thanksgiving.

And Speaking of Bad Streaks…

Todd White’s personal OH!-fer streak has now reached…hang on while I count the games…30 – 31 – 32…32 games!

That’s thirty-freakin’-two games without a goal from a “top-six” center, folks. He took nary a shot in Pittsburgh and was a –3…which brings him to –15 on the season, which I believe now is the worst rating on the team.

Todd White remains on the milk carton as his streak without a goal has now reached 32 games

Todd White remains on the milk carton as his streak without a goal has now reached 32 games

I just gotta be honest with ya here…I have no idea why John Anderson placed him on the front line between Kovy and Afinogenov when learning that Nik Antropov would be unable to go. I mean…Rich Peverley is still on the team, right? Heck…I’d even understand putting Slates there given the situation. But not Todd White.

I do believe White was the centerman on the ice while the Penguins were busy scoring their first two goal…goals that were scored while the center of the defensive zone was so wide open it could be used an auxiliary airport runway.

It time…past time…Todd White finds a permanent seat in the press box.

Congrats to Team USA!

Finally, some good news to discuss! Team USA defeated Canada 6-5 in overtime to grab the gold medal in the World Junior Championship played in Saskatoon. It was a rematch of the overtime thriller won by Canada on New Years Eve and was one of the most exciting, hard-fought games I’ve watched in a while.

What a thrill it must be for those youngsters…I’d love to see the USA Olympic team repeat their success in Vancouver next month.

Congratulations Team USA!!!!

84 comments Add your comment

Mr. Heat Miser

January 6th, 2010
12:08 am

Gold? Yeah Team USA got it, Take Off – You Hosers!

thrasherdawg

January 6th, 2010
12:16 am

what will it take before anyone starts paying attention. i have been a loyal fan sense the beginning and have purchased over $90,000.00 in tickets since the thrashers arrival in atlanta. i am this close to giving the rest of my season tickets away and never going to a game again. why? because no one cares…kovy is doing figure 8’s while watching players skate by and score. he is a poor excuse for a leader. players are so far out of position it is unbelievable.

fire the frign coach please. it is obvious the players don’t want to play for him. sign kovy immediately or trade him and let’s all move. pav is now proven to be the goalie i thought he was.

it doesn’t take a genius to figure out an offensive system where you get out shot by 10 or 15 every game really isn’t much of an offensive system.

the thrashers are on life support..someone please do somehing before we all pull the plug.

Cup Guy

January 6th, 2010
12:18 am

Silver? So where do i start? Ok how about this. No one is listening to anyone in that locker room. JA isn’t making anyone take responsibility. Some Damn FAN needs to get their ass on the ice and give them a piece of their mind. Seriously. Strap on some skates and during a practice go out there and give it to them. Everyone on this team sucks right now. There are no exceptions. Kovy skates in a circle. Go figure skating and stop playing hockey if this is what you want kovy. White he is not a top 6. he is lucky to even make a fourth line on any other team. This team well you can see how he made a top 6. Kane is about as close to playing night in and out as i have seen in a long time. He plays with heart. He is still young but he plays on hell of a game. he gets me excited and thast about the only person. The goalies. Here is my take. They aren’t playing horrible. The team just isnt playing D and is just leaving them out to dry and get killed. Pavs looks bad and looks horrible given the D around him. What is this talk of Zach Playing well. He looks so horrible. What happened to him? Oh there is another bright spot on this team. Enstrom. That man can kick it night in and out. Props to him. Wish his energy and grit would rub off on the other guys. Anyways. We will see if we can win anything on thursday. We need to make a trade desperately. Get rid of anyone someone. Geez. Don’t make me strap on skates because I will be damned if this team doesn’t turn it around and JA doesn’t make them take responsibility. Hope to never have to post like this again.

Brendan

January 6th, 2010
12:20 am

Indeed, Congratulations to Team USA!! It’s on to Vancouver, BC, to complete the true “triple play.”

Huh?

USA under 17 won Gold. USA Juniors won Gold. Team USA, as partly managed by Don Waddell, is on to … ??? Well, before you say, “the Toilet Bowl.” Don Waddell was part of the Red Wings when they won a Stanley Cup in 1998. So, if the Red Wings were able to overcome his partial influence, so can TEAM USA! Three-peat! Three-peat!! Three-peat!!

The Brian Burke-managed Leafs have potten two more points tonight, in a regulation-time win over Florida. So, if you’re keeping track back to October 24, 2009, Toronto has 38-points in 32 games. Atlanta has 33-points in 34 games. The Leafs are, in fact, banking points at a GREATER CLIP than the Thrashers are. Or have been for a while now. Sobering, is it not?

stendec

January 6th, 2010
12:22 am

Both Yardbirds and Yellow Jackets choked big time! At least Georgia Tech won meaningless title before going bellyup against totally untalented NORTHERN scum. Entire Rambling Wreck season became pointless failure with that unsavory defeat. Thanks for bowl triumph Dawgs. Atlanta hockey club still has plenty of losses left before they can hit the greens! At least physically. All are already there mentally. Good morning Rawhide, Sage and LAC. As for apologists – enjoy the rest of the slide. It is certain to be a lllooonnnggg one. All of you damn deserve it! ++STENDEC++

Brendan

January 6th, 2010
12:57 am

No! No trades! Not unless or until it’s FIRESALE time, at the deadline. Wanna make things worse?? No player wants to be moved to Atlanta. Not right now, anyway. Not to this team. This team either improves, as is currently assembled, or it sinks. If the wheels have fallen off, let’s not go do something desperate, 2007-style, to mortgage the future for a pointless playoff berth, that results in another sweep. We just don’t have a system/strategy that has any chance of real success in the playoffs. Our strategy is to sprint up a mountain. That won’t work. You just run out of gas, and in exhaustion, fall back down the mountainside. Isn’t that what’s happening right now? (Ooh, gotcha thinking, haven’t I?)

No, it’s a methodical, well-calculated climb to the top of the mountain. Something that is lost on this organization. The march to the mountain top is a marathon, not a Sprint, using a stretch pass to Kovalchuk. And catering to a cherry picker is a surefire recipe for disaster. It’s inmates running the asylum, as Miami Screamin’ Eagle might say.

And unlike LAST YEAR, where “playing well down the stretch might help Kovy to decide to stay,” once he’s traded … that’s it. As Bob says, “there’s nothing to play for at that point, but the 1st overall pick in the draft.” But before the Draft, my God!, CLEAN HOUSE! In April!! Don’t wait until even May. If Kovy leaves, and Waddell is still the GM, you’re not gonna sell any season tickets. Not even if you discounted them 70-percent. No, Bruce Levenson. If you want to raise ticket prices, or even keep them the SAME, you’ve got to do something to instill confidence in your fanbase. And that means “to man up, and do that which you find so unpalatable. You must fire Don Waddell.”

Well, if you don’t, Waddell will hire his 4th Head Coach. FOURTH! And Dan Marr will aid him on draft day. You’ve seen the glorious results of a decade’s worth of drafting. And player development.

I would have thought this roster would be getting better results than they are. But 0-6-3, in 9 games, in a playoff chase, isn’t going to cut it. You can overcome that in October or November. Maybe in early December, but you can’t do it after New Year’s Day. Not when the games start to take on added signficance and importance. The good teams, that have been floundering, will rise to the top. The bad teams, cloaked in moderate success, will founder. This happens every single year. Contenders emerge and pretenders fall.

Paper Bag Head

January 6th, 2010
12:58 am

Did anyone else notice that Kovy actually back checked on more than one occasion tonight? What is up with that? Maybe it was an audition? If he skated hard on the back check night in and night out we would have a few more wins.

Ron Mexico

January 6th, 2010
1:01 am

Consider the panic button officially pushed! When Slater is carrying our offense, that is a BAD sign. This is down right embarassing. We continually get outshot, our secondary scoring is almost non existent, and our special teams have gone to hell in a handbasket…….Anyway let’s hope a little home cooking starting Thursday will be just what the doctor ordered.

I for one hope Kovy stays, but not at the expense of being able to keep our younger assets together long term. Bill, I’ve gotta question for you. If Kovy does go, do you see a potential firesale happening with the other impending UFA’s (Army, Kubina) regardless of where we are in the standings? Assuming he goes, it would behoove this team to cut bait and stockpile picks and prospects especially if these other guys have no intent on staying. But that’s just my two cents.

Brendan

January 6th, 2010
1:06 am

Kovy backchecked so well in this game, he was a -3. A minus-three. Jordan Staal thanks him for his goal.

Barry

January 6th, 2010
1:14 am

I only watched the 3rd period and Kovy coasted and watched big time on that 4th goal by Staal. Thrashers need a new coach OR a coach that totally reconsiders EVERYTHING he has been teaching this team on how to play hockey. All the things I see them doing is bass ackwards to how the rest of the league does things and this team is the one that losing. Also I think it’s either time to trade or just play release Todd White. I’m with you Rawhide…Peverley should have been the go to go for the top line. Why he’s buried on the third line we’ll never know. When all is healthy the lines should be Kovy-Antro-Little, Kane-Peverley-Little, Kozlov-White-Armstrong, 4th line as usual. With White gones then you could go Kozlov-Reasoner-Armstrong, Boulton-Slater-Thorburn.

Barry

January 6th, 2010
1:16 am

God I can’t type tonight. Peverley should have been the go to GUY and time to trade or just PLAIN release Todd White.

Brendan

January 6th, 2010
1:17 am

In 2007, in a well-orchestrated, brilliantly calculated strategy, Flyers GM Paul Holmgren “firesold” his team from a 2007 DEAD LAST finish, of 56-points, to the Conference Finals in 2008, improving by 39-points in a single season. That’s a fact. It can be verified. And yes, Coburn for Zhitnik was part of it. But that’s hardly the trade that made Philadelphia go from 30th place to 4th place, from 56-points to 95-points. And 99-points in 2009. The 2008 Flyers were seeded 6th in the East, and they won nine (9) playoff games that year. That’s an incontestable FACT. Their playoff record was 9-8 that year. They defeated #3 seed Washington, 4-3. Then they defeated the #1 seed, Montreal, 4-1. And then lost to #2 seed, Pittsburgh, 4-1.

In the 2007 draft, the Flyers selected James vanRiemsdyk, 2nd overall, from the USA Under 18 program. The team the just won the Gold medal tonight. But Paul Holmgren is Paul Holmgren. Don Waddell is Don Waddell.

LAC

January 6th, 2010
1:31 am

Well what can you say ? REAL NHL teams would NOT tolorate a nine game losing streak for a second period. But the is The Atlanta Thrashers, owned by a group of DIAPER Boys, who likely are not potty trained, except thashing the PAYING FANS ! We have the worst GM in pro sports, why is he is Saskatoon ? He should be in his office making changes and trades, before it is REALLY TOO LATE. But no old stupid, LIAR waddell is out of the country, really… He is OUT OF HIS MIND !

When O When will The NHL open it’s eyes and take over this team ?
Where is Gary Bettman on this franchise ? He professes to “care”
about the southern teams, well we are in BIG trouble and he turns a blind eye ? I guess the warmer weather in Phoenix is a big reason.
Or… is he a Looney as this sprit group ?

anderson’s system does not work period, it may in the minors or at the pee wee level, but once REAL NHL teams catch on, it is over and for Atlanta this season is nearly LOST, There will be NO PLAYOFFS, No chance in hell.

#17 is gone, get what we can while we can. Waive white/kozlov/little
They STINK, and I have always liked Salva, but it is over.

Trade this zach clown, he is the worst defenseman in the NHL, always out of position, missed assignment time after time after time…

And this Pavelec is simply AWFUL… Wonder what “his” agent has to say about his play ??? Sure NOT NHL quality.

Just a collection of players for the most part do not care.

And WHERE are all the waddell loyalist’s ? Who love old liar don,
see you people fail to see Sage & Standec and now Brended are ALL
on the same page, we see this issues and BAD play, failed system,
we voice out thoughts, so who out there thinks this group will do anything but finish at the BOTTOM of the entire NHL, I believe we will be 30th at years end.

But in the morning it will be just another day for Thrashers, no concern, no changes, no trades, no waivers, no nothing which is what you should expect from THE WORST FRANCHISE IN THE NHL !

I won’t go to anymore games, haven’t for three years now, I urge EVERYONE to boycott the team until we get a new OWNER and waddell fired.

Let’s hope for less than 1,000 thursday night, THEY DESERVE IT !

LAC

January 6th, 2010
1:38 am

Sorry Brenden, for miselling your name…

Bill, we got only 2 points out of 14, and NYR plays Dallas at MSG
tonight as NJD dumped Dallas last night in NJ.

Sharon

January 6th, 2010
5:21 am

I’ll add a splash of bitterness as well.

This franchise is a spirit-crushing fiasco. That’s all. After 10 years, that’s all there is to say.

World Be Free

January 6th, 2010
5:45 am

One positiiove-the guy I trashed for 3 months when i started posting on the blog-Jim Slater.

You may all remember I wanted Jimmy ran out of town on a hay wagon. Now he’s the offense! I gave him a standing “O” at the Dallas game for his first goal. Now I’d say he’s a keeper.

None of this will change until the Kovy thing is dealt with AND Kari comes back. Opie’s audition is done.

tbone

January 6th, 2010
6:30 am

As I’ve said for several years, as long as waddell is in the house I’ll stay in mine.

Not Blind

January 6th, 2010
7:04 am

Koasting Kovalchuk has got to go. Same for Kozlov.

Puckoff

January 6th, 2010
7:46 am

Hockey simply will not survive in Atlanta or the south for that matter. I laugh when seeing the empty seats on ESPN highlights. I dropped hockey after the strike so it’s no loss for me. You avid fans here are the ones who will miss out. Get to as many games as you can before they shut it down. Players should have been trying to build hockey’s image instead of striking years ago. They pay the price for this mistake every day. Eventually , NHL will be a niche sport only in Canada and the northeastern US.

Miami Screaming Eagle

January 6th, 2010
8:12 am

Hockey CAN survive here with a real team! 75% of Atlantans are not from Atlanta, most are from the northeast, real hockey towns. We’d all go to games if the team was WORTH PAYING FOR!

You can’t be as bad as this team has been for 10 years and expect to build and maintain a fanbase. People would walk away from this team in any city except Toronto. We are not sheep!

mr. mike

January 6th, 2010
8:17 am

I share the frustrations of thrasher dawg, cup guy, et.al. This is as horiible as it has been in the entire 10 years. No apologists needed on today’s blog; we have regressed to the Curt Frasier days. Was there ever a 9 game losing streak under Hartley? Coach Anderson has obviously lost this team; & the shame of it is that it really isn’t his fault. Waddell has the worst group of defensemen I’ve ever seen, ebver, in 30 years as a hockey fan. Considering all of us lived through the Tremblay/Tamer years; that is really saying something.
Brendan; as always; you’ve nailed it; being an ex-Philly guy meself; we need to turn this entire garbage franchise upside down a la Holmgren & just totally start over.
One last beef: we all know Kovy is gone; simply adding to the Port-a-Potty saleman’s dismal record of retaining quality here in ATKL; i;e, good-bye Brunette, Kaberle, Savard, Hossa, Belanger & now Kovy.
No more of my money for “live” attendance this year. No more.

R. Stroz

January 6th, 2010
8:20 am

Just once, I’d like to see Anderson let irresponsible players have it Torts or Quinn style.

When a player doesn’t perform his duty, rip him, don’t roll your eyes.

Anderson’s leadership style reminds me of Jimmy Carter and his perpetual “malaise” quotes.

Anderson needs to “get fired up” and light a fire under the players butts.

Jimbo

January 6th, 2010
8:25 am

Donnie Brilliance pulled the plug on Hartley for fewer consecutive losses. Our only hope is that the far from brilliant ownership pulls the plug on Donnie B., Johnny A. and Kovy the Koaster in an effort to save hockey in Atlanta. By the way, what’s the record for most consecutive losses in the NHL?

Junk not Trunk

January 6th, 2010
8:30 am

I’ve been saying that Kovy’s leaving for a long time, and I still believe it. This organization, everything about it from ugly uniforms to player selection and development, from promotions to coaching, is completely and utterly bush-league.

You know, I think the old Atlanta Knights may have put together a better product than the Thrashers.

HookyBob

January 6th, 2010
8:36 am

One popular school of thought is that you build a team from the goalie forward. I’m with most bloggers here in that when Pavs is in goal,…well that’s where our problems start (since Dec 1st). Play Moose against the Blueshirts. Hope for Kari to be nearing playing form (can’t even use the word “return”). Anyone have an ETA for Kari?

Even Moose in goal will look bad with the chances our defense has been giving up. “Defense”, as used above, includes backchecking by our forwards. Right now I’m liking Toby, Kubina, Schubert & even Salmela’s game over Hainsey and Zach. Maybe Hainsey and Zach should be playing as forwards. Both like to handle the puck, go in deep, and I bet our backchecking would improve as well.

We really missed Antro last night. Without him in there (and with White in his place no less) Kovy gets a lot tighter coverage. Did anyone notice how well the Pens defense (sans Gonchar) not only kept us to the outside, but even prevented many outside shots/passes from getting through? You just might be able to win a cup with those guys.

Something needs to change with our forwards. It starts with more defensive play. It may also take some sort of change in personnel. I like the idea of bringing Crabb up from the Wolves. He plays fast and physicial both ways.

Another scenario is a trade. Not sure who though,..maybe Kovy? Puck Daddy’s blog yesterday on Ilya trade rumors was “en feugo”. So does Kovy have a “no trade clause” in his current contract? I’m not saying he’d play that card,..but it could limit Waddell’s options. Options which seem to getting more limited as time moves on.

If we trade Kovy who should be our captain? My vote goes to Peverly.

Blueshirts tomorrow night. Go Blue.

Get The Puck Out

January 6th, 2010
8:41 am

I just don’t understand how anyone can keep a job when you can’t win. JA won’t survive, i hope and pray DW doesn’t survive and i don’t see Kovy staying. It truly is a sad time for an Atlanta Thrasher fan. What could have been without DW in.

fanfan

January 6th, 2010
8:53 am

All I have been doing for last 2 years is pasting this message: Sell, sell, sell!

rightshot

January 6th, 2010
8:53 am

The word I would use to describe last nites effort, I can’t say on this blog. I’ll just go with AAAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!!

five_hole

January 6th, 2010
8:53 am

After Slater scored his second goal and I finished cleaning my beverage off of the floor & coffee table, I was waiting for a sign of the Apocalypse (plague, locusts, tea-baggers). I was ready to smear lambs blood on my door frame (Glovesave can explain that one to you).

Again, we played a good 1st period and then we had misqueues, breakdown of assignments and simply lack of effort. Kubina, who was my #1 defenseman back in November is the worst blueliner on the team right now. He is consistently getting beaten like a rented mule. For those dissing Zack, he was a +0 in 23:30 of play. Kubina on the other hand, was a -3 in 18:47. And I take the misqueues & assignment failures as coming from coaching. This is the best team talent-wise that we’ve had in Atlanta, and if John Anderson can’t win with these guys, he can’t win period.

The losing streak and danger of missing the playoffs does put a new spin on the Kovalchuk negotiations, and if we can’t resign him and if we’re not going to make the playoffs, I would certainly move him to the highest bidder.

Different subject. Hey Putting on the Foil or anyone else who just bought a new high-def TV; what about 3-D? http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/06/business/media/06tele.html?hp

Rawhide

January 6th, 2010
8:56 am

Bill, I’ve gotta question for you. If Kovy does go, do you see a potential firesale happening with the other impending UFA’s (Army, Kubina) regardless of where we are in the standings?

Ron Mexico – I think that would be the expected course of action, yes.

Bill, we got only 2 points out of 14, and NYR plays Dallas at MSG
tonight as NJD dumped Dallas last night in NJ.

LAC – Indeed you are correct…2 points from the 7 game roadie. The 3 points I was thinking of is the total earned during the 9 game losing streak. I’ve corrected the post…hanks.

Smoothie

January 6th, 2010
8:58 am

Guess who else was on the ice for those goals with White??

Yep, a couple of Russians whose last names end in “CHUK” and “OV” as in “chuk-ov” your defensive responsibility because you’re a frustrated floater who would rather do pirouettes at the blueline while your team gets bombarded for rebounds. Well, in Finny’s case, sometimes he gets back in time, but he just doesn’t seem to mark a man…too busy chasing the puck. I’m not making excuses for Todd White, but he’s the one actually TRYING to play defense out there. Perhaps why JA put him there as Antropov is usually the one playing all the defense on the 1st line.

Nikita

January 6th, 2010
9:11 am

Last night’s game was a SERIOUS bummer. I was pretty thrilled about it, as it was one of very few games I get to watch in public as I am now in Penguins territory. But I was just plain incensed by the outcome, and more importantly by specific things that I saw.

Specifically:

1. Stupid penalties. I’m looking at you, Tripchuk. Kane narrowly averted setting Pittsburgh up for a penalty shot, and Kovalchuk’s tripping call was straight-up vindictiveness and sloppiness. Kane is young, but what’s Kovy’s excuse other than a lack of discipline and maturity?

2. In a closely related note, the Thrashers were playing simultaneously lazy, soft, and dirty. Kozlov got his ass kicked, a number of people beat the heck out of Jordan Staal, and in general it was ugly. Undiscipline, poorly strategized, defensively irresponsible, and vindictive. All bad qualities.

3. It’s effing embarrassing when the only line consistently playing well is the checking line. And incidentally, the Pens didn’t play that well — we could have easily won that game if we’d simply put some effort into it.

Now, as to solutions….

1. We have a number of players who are doing uncharacteristically poorly, but that also makes it very challenging to correct any of them. Were I Jon Anderson, I’d alternately sit or temporarily send down all of the following: White, Kozlov, Hainsey, Bogosian. Oh, and I think he also needs to put the feat of God into Kovalchuk and Afinogenov regardong defensive responsibility — they’re both playing very poorly in that regard, setting a poor example and representing a significant opportunity cost.

2. We also have a goalie challenge, which is that we have a backup who is good, but older, and a kid who can be brilliant but is simply not performing up to standard. Ideally, Anderson should send Opie back to Chicago and go back to the Kari-Moose combo. Barring Kari’s return soon and well, he probably needs to trade for another goalie.

Also, I’m on permanent record as a Todd White fan and I remain one. He’s not doing well enough, obviously, but something I like about both White and Koz is that they are at least fundamentally sound. So I’d like to see those two sat and reconiditioned, but not cut.

I also think Bryan Little belongs in a separate category from the group above. His problem is two-fold: he has a streak of moodiness, which is currently on display, and it’s not really clear what his best position is. Also, he’s defensively o.k., but not good enough in that regard to be effective below the 2nd line. So, it’s a challenge. My guess would be that we end up keeping the russians and keeping him below the second line and we will lose him only to see him blossom elsewhere.

12345

January 6th, 2010
9:17 am

Where is the NHL ? Why are they not getting involved to save this franchise ? Why do they continue to let this poor ownership, own the team any longer ? Hartley was fired after a six game loser, Anderson has
lost complete control and his system does not work in the NHL. So what is going to happen,I agree maybe 3,000 Thrusday night. A winning hockey team would pack the arena, a loser like we have simply will not, time for these owners to let the NHL take over the team, and first order of business get the hell rid of Don Waddell, this guy is just the worst
I have ever seen, another “great” team put togather by this madman !

Not Blind

January 6th, 2010
9:37 am

Time for JA to GO for sure. I don’t know who you hire to right the ship. If someone could somehow motivate this team to play hard they could win lots of games. The Kotton Kandy trip on Fedotenko was immature as has been pointed out already.

Alan R.

January 6th, 2010
9:39 am

I wish John Anderson would simply go with Hedberg on a nightly basis and start Opie only on back-to-back situation and/or spot starts

I wish Kari Lehtonen was 100% already, so he could steal some games for us. Essentially calling Moose an upgrade over Pavelec is like calling a Ford Pinto an upgrade over an AMC Gremlin.

Eileen

January 6th, 2010
9:42 am

Depressing. That says it all for me.

Bob

January 6th, 2010
9:45 am

The attendance will be pretty good tomorrow night, full of BlueSkirt fans.

Anderson’s system is a joke and he’s lost the team. No one believes in his system and for good reason, it’s a joke. Guys just walk into our zone and camp out in front, completely unchecked.

“The Brian Burke-managed Leafs have potten two more points tonight, in a regulation-time win over Florida. So, if you’re keeping track back to October 24, 2009, Toronto has 38-points in 32 games. Atlanta has 33-points in 34 games. The Leafs are, in fact, banking points at a GREATER CLIP than the Thrashers are. Or have been for a while now. Sobering, is it not?”

Burke has his club headed in the right direction after just a couple months in charge. Waddell has been here since Day 1. And like I’ve been saying since the 3rd year, nothing meaningful will change here until meaningful changes are made and a competent GM is brought in.

As long as Waddell remains in charge, it’ll be year after year of what we’ve seen, year after year. It’s all Waddell. He hired Anderson, who’s system is the laughing stock of the NHL right now. The Pens were literally skating at will into our zone, completely unchecked. Waddell drafts the youth. Waddell signs the players. Waddell is the problem, and until he’s gone, nothing will change.

I loved watching the USA club last night pull that game out in OT. There are some tremendous young players on both squads, lots of future NHL talent there. I have not been following our young draft picks too closely over the past couple of years as I feel that if Waddell drafted them, then they’re not going to pan out, so why bother, but I wonder if any player from the Canadian or USA club were our draft picks? There’s 44 guys on both rosters, do we have even one of them? I’ll make a wild guess here that since Waddell was the guy drafting, we didn’t have any one of the 44 guys in the finals.

Smoothie

January 6th, 2010
9:53 am

Bob, we got Morin (2nd round), Klingberg (who played for SWE) and that’s it. No high-end Canadian Junior talent…as usual. Other than Evander Kane and Bryan Little. I think Klingberg will be a guy we end up really liking. Morin can shoot the hell out of the puck and he likes to hit. He actually seems pretty responsible defensively and was a +8 or something for the tourney. If he improves his skating….look out?

R. Stroz

January 6th, 2010
9:56 am

Bob – We have one, Jeremy Morin.

Nikita – White may come back to play defense, however, he gets knocked off the puck in half a second, falls on his butt, and the other team uses his butt as a curling brush.

Todd White is a MINUS FIFTEEN. If that’s defensive responsibility, Atlanta is suffering from global warming this week.

TODD WHITE SUCKS. HE’S DONE, KUPUT. USELESS.

Heck, Jim Slater has as many goals as White in half as many games.

Bob

January 6th, 2010
10:10 am

Well wonders never cease, so we did have one of the 44 players. Can’t say I remember Morin though, what line was he on?

White is useless, but how do we explain the great year he had last year? And I pray that Little isn’t suffering from the same syndrome, of just having one great year and then nothing. I’ve been quietly confident that Little would turn it around, but nothing. Is it the system that screwing his game up? They both played the same system last year, WTF?

Mooseberg

January 6th, 2010
10:14 am

Oh Kaptain my Kaptain…you got a close up view of 3 goals as you followed the opposing shooting down the lane to view first hand over their shoulder…don’t you have to buy tickets to watch the game? Oh thats right…we pay you to watch the game -3

Not Blind

January 6th, 2010
10:19 am

I see the problem. The whole management apparatus is paralyzed by the Kotton Kandy Kontract Kaper. The ASG doesn’t have a Klue so to avoid making a mistake they instead don’t do anything. DW would like to keep his job as long as possible so he isn’t going to suggest anything like trading KK or firing the Koach he lobbied for. DW probably has JA on a very tight leash in regards to raising Kain with KK or sitting KK for a game or two or doing anything a real Koach would do when faced with Koasting checK Kashers. I have about decided that Spirit in ASG refers either to ghosts or alcoholic beverages. The ASG is either invisible or drunk.

Nikita

January 6th, 2010
10:32 am

*White is useless, but how do we explain the great year he had last year?*

White is not useless. He is, however, aging, and he had always played alternating awesome years with so-so ones. But in any case I’m not convinced that he’s pulling a Schneider rather than simply a) starting slow as usual, b) having a so-so year and c) playing with a bunch of people who are struggling themselves as well as neglecting their two-way responsibilities.

*And I pray that Little isn’t suffering from the same syndrome, of just having one great year and then nothing.*

I don’t think that’s the case. I do think, though, that we have to remember how young and developing he is, and he has to be coached appropriately.

*Is it the system that screwing his game up? They both played the same system last year, WTF?*

No, it’s not the system. It’s being shunted around in a non-natural position while cherry pickers play where he should be playing. That said, ultimately he’s responsible for his own play.

And IMO, the system isn’t the problem, per se — while it’s treated like a proprietary thing it’s actually quite similar to the system employed by a lot of successful teams such as Detroit. The lack of ability or inclination to play the system well, and individual failures to do one’s job in the system, render the system ineffective.

ThrashDawg

January 6th, 2010
10:35 am

Is it me or does it seem like the team went in the tank when it become public that the Kovy negotiations was not going well? It is a strange deal when the GM went out and brought in hand picked Kovy players to make him happy so he would sign a new contract and now it looks like he wants out. I believe there is problems in the locker room because of this deal. They just look like a different team and there is nothing JA can do to solve the problem. IMO we need to package Kovy out of here ASAP and regroup without him before it is too late this year.

Smoothie

January 6th, 2010
10:35 am

Stroz – I understand you’re frustration, but scape-goating White doesn’t make much sense when you’re captain doesn’t show any regard for consistent effort on D and therefore loses his leverage as a “leader”.

These clips show it all, especially # 1. We saw lots of this “defense” in early December after the Fla game.

http://www.birdwatchersanonymous.com/2010/1/6/1236312/would-you-pay-10-million-a-year?login=1262790932

Bob

January 6th, 2010
11:03 am

“it’s actually quite similar to the system employed by a lot of successful teams such as Detroit.”

What? Have you watched our games this year and do you watch other clubs? No one, I repeat, no one in the league in the league, especially not Detroit!, plays a system where the dmen drive down deep, sometimes behind the net, on the rush, leaving the backend completely exposed for the counterattack (a counterattack which leaves us completely exposed all game game, leading to the amount of shots and goals that we give up). Doesn’t do a damn bit of good to be scoring 3 or 4 a night, when you can’t keep the opposition of your net.

Bob

January 6th, 2010
11:05 am

“your captain doesn’t show any regard for consistent effort on D”

No he doesn’t. There’s no way they can pay him the amount of $ he wants, he’s just plain is not worth it. He’s not 1/2 the player that Crosby, Malkin, or Ovechkin is.

The problem now is that we still have Waddell in charge of orchestrating the trade for him, let’s just pray that Dudley has a lot of input on the decision.

Smoothie

January 6th, 2010
11:33 am

Bob, let’s pray that the ASG finally realizes the only way to right this ship THIS TIME is to:

a) fire Waddell
b) promote Dudley to GM
c) fire Anderson
d) promote Cunneyworth as interim
e) trade the hell out of Kovy, then Max and possibly Kubina
f) promote some Wolves and put the fear of God in the vets

Caveat: tell Kubes we’d be interested in bringing him back next season for 2-3 years at $3.75 M – $4 M per season.

Not Blind

January 6th, 2010
12:02 pm

How are you going to put the fear of God into the vets ? Trade them ?? That’s what they want. Right now the management has NO leverage at all. None. Zero. Every player in this organization would be happy to be traded.

Smoothie

January 6th, 2010
12:32 pm

Trade the UFAs and challenge the remaining vets with some competition from CHI. You gotta free up roster space to call up some players anyway.

POTF

January 6th, 2010
12:41 pm

Hey five_hole. Saw the 3-D tv’s. Not sure I want any off the mark passes or errant shots from the Thrashers seemingly coming toward my head. Especially while drinking. One other note, since we can’t fire the whole team, let’s start with Anderson. After this streak, I think we need a Pat Quinn to come in and kick all their arses.

five_hole

January 6th, 2010
12:51 pm

Hey POTF, if it was the Thrashers shooting, what makes you think they’d find the mark?

Other than the 2nd line, this team has talent all over the place. We all thought so back in October; I still think so now. Little is struggling because he’s trying to do it all by himself. White just blows and Slava’s age has caught up with him.

I believe Yogi Berra said that 90% of the game is 50% mental. And I think in this case, he’s right. Maybe it’s because of Ilya’s contract negotiations. Maybe it just started with a letdown and now everyone’s pressing too hard. Maybe it’s because of a secret plot to win in Afghanistan. I don’t know, but I do know who’s job it is to keep the team in line, and he doesn’t seem to be doing a very good job at it.

Even if it isn’t Anderson’s fault, instead of firing the whole team, you fire the coach to make a point with the players. I don’t know who would be available right now, but I say “bring ‘em in”.

LAC

January 6th, 2010
12:53 pm

The first to be traded should be zach B. He has turned into the worst defensman in the entire NHL. Never hits, Always out of position, never shoots the puck, can’t pass worth 2 cents and is slow and a creampuff, I have seen ALL I ever want to see from him in an Atlanta uniform, TRADE HIS A$$.

Waive, white/kozlov/little. little is nothing more than a one year wonder who will NEVER be a solid NHL player.

Get rid of anderson, he has lost ALL control of the team, his so called
“system” is the worst in the league and he refuses to sit players who need sitting…

Where are the little boy owners ? Remember opening night 2007, when the SE banner was raised ? Remember that lying suck face rutherford snydel LYING to everyone by saying… Now get this… “We are going to do EVERYTHING possible to win the Stanley Cup.” Remember ? I do, watching that little punk lie to everyone, how did a dumb A$$ like rutherford STUPIDNEL ever, ever get the $ to be involved in this ? How, He is one of the dumbiest person’s I ever saw, Deer on the Interstate have more sense than That LIAR snydel… where are these owners, where is beau turner, off DRUNK someplace ? Mr.Pottymouth, is he hiding in the men’s room again ? What the F is going on ?

Where is Gary Bettman ? Why is the NHL not threating to remove these wimps as owners and take over the team… They did in Phoenix, oh yes, they have like 60 points now !!!!! They made changes and look what they are doing !!!! Why can that not happen here ? Where is another Arthur Blank when you need one bad ?

HookyBob

January 6th, 2010
1:11 pm

CONGRATULATIONS USA Hockey ! ! !

It’ll be interesting to see how our D fares tomorrow night. Torts is known to send two forwards in deep to pressure. My guess is a lot of pucks almost make it to our blueline before a Blueshirt intercepts it. I hope our forwards come back to help outlet. BTW, are the 3rd jerseys on for Thursday evening?

I hope Moose gets the start. I’ve really come to admire his mental toughness. Look what basket cases our defense has made out otherwise fine and talented goalies.

Bob:…..I’m not sure your concern about the Thrashers starting at 7:00, instead of 7:30 is valid. Most the time, if you were in your seat by 7:30 you’d be there when our Boys in Blue started playing. Sadly, that is not to say the that the puck doesn’t drop, and other team starts at 7:00 however.

So, what are the chances Waddell and Kovy have a handshake on a 10+ year deal for $9M +/yr but aren’t letting on (deal to be signed after free-agency starts)? That way Kovy could be traded for some value, play for a play-off team, and come back for the big $s and warm weather. At the same time Thrashers pick-up some talent.

Go Blue.

Nikita

January 6th, 2010
1:13 pm

Hooo boy.

Detroit in fact employs the same system we do. The players simply have the responsibility and honor to do what they’re supposed to and distinguish between “joining the rush” and “abandoning all attempts at defense.”

*TRADE HIS A$$.*

Er, no. No. No. Trade the #2 draft pick, who played great last year, and is barely legal? No. Recondition him and put him with better talent.

*little is nothing more than a one year wonder who will NEVER be a solid NHL player.*

You’re high. And I’d like to point out Braydon Coburn. Ridding ourselves of him really worked out, didn’t it?

*Get rid of anderson, he has lost ALL control of the team, his so called
“system” is the worst in the league and he refuses to sit players who need sitting…*

I’ll agree with point three. That’s it. Also, I don’t seem to recall you asking for his head when his “terrible” system resulted in wins. It’s not the system — it’s the players, including some very expensive, lazy, cherished albatrosses bringing the entire team down.

If I have any issues with the system, it’s that it fails at both ends. You can play offense-heavy if your offense is effective and displays the proper amount of two-way and crash and bang. You can play defense if you play a permnent full-court press (which to my knowledge only Columbus and NJD do). But we play half of each, and both poorly.

Also, I really get sick of hearing about how we need to crucify middle-aged, cheap, 2nd- or 3rd-line players (what did you expect for $2-4 million?) when someone who reportedly is asking for the sky (a.k.a. MORE than for, say, Rick Nash) as well as demanding and getting the right to pick his equally flashy and irresponsible linemates is not stepping up.

And that reminds me…effing Rick Nash. That’s a decent example of what I wish our Kaptain was. Rick Nash makes things happen. He plays offense and defense and takes responsibility for stoking his team’s success. Oh, and he costs about half of what Kovy wants. WEP.

*Mr.Pottymouth, is he hiding in the men’s room again ? What the F is going on ?*

Stop being such a pussy about small-time off-color language, especially when you use or imply plenty of it yourself. What, you’re the only whiny crybaby that gets to cuss around here?

*Why is the NHL not threating to remove these wimps as owners and take over the team…*

Because if they did that to every team that’s not run ideally, they’d have 10 teams on their hands.

R. Stroz

January 6th, 2010
1:15 pm

Smoothie – There’s plenty of shame to go around. Therefore, I don’t see it as scapegoating White. At this point White, and Kozlov, are filling roster spots, which should be filled with young hungry prospects. White, to me, is what Vigier was to Ranallo, an aging vet, past his prime, stunting the develpoment of a young prospect.

White is done. Kozlov is done.

Cherrychuk just wants to score goals and save himself for the Olympics.

And, I don’t think Cherrychuk is the only player on the team saving themselves for the Olympics.

I do, however, like the solution suggested above:

a) fire Waddell
b) promote Dudley to GM
c) fire Anderson
d) promote Cunneyworth as interim
e) trade the hell out of Kovy, then Max and possibly Kubina
f) promote some Wolves and put the fear of God in the vets

That works for me.

Smoothie

January 6th, 2010
1:50 pm

Stroz – I think we agree but you just have more disdain for White at this present time. I used to be with you on the squeeze the Charmin bandwagon, but he showed me some good things last year and I figured he’d be able to continue some of them. Not that there is any excused for his slow trigger and inability to put stronger shots on net. But it doesn’t matter. The 3rd month of the season has revealed this team for what it is…a collective bunch of charlatan underachievers. And on top of that, there is some youthful inexperience compounding things with the occasional (or not so occasional) brain cramp, rookie mistake etc.

Glad you like my checklist of what needs to happen. Now if we could just get Levenson and Gearon convinced of this, we would have something to look forward to other than a 10-15 win second half.

Alan R.

January 6th, 2010
1:53 pm

Before Anderson ever gets fired, it’s about damn time we fired that Steve Weeks guy.

Tom

January 6th, 2010
1:57 pm

Thank God for Team USA, it got me off the hook for watching the Thrashers. :)

I have a question, is it possible to start picketing the practices. Make up signs like “No Figure 8’s” and such and hold them up by the glass?

If the coaches can not get through to the players, maybe the fans can. Just a thought…

R. Stroz

January 6th, 2010
2:26 pm

Tom – Here’s a sign for practice “Hockey, it’s played on both ends of the ice.”

Wayne stuck in AL

January 6th, 2010
2:36 pm

I would just LOVE for Kovy to traded to Columbus (that’s Ohio, not Georgia) just to see him try to play defense for Ken Hitchcock (but not necessary for anything the Jackets could give us in trade).

J.B.

January 6th, 2010
2:42 pm

How about a sign quoting the official NHL rules & regulations “… a contest shall consist of three (3) twenty (20) minute periods of play…” Not sure most of our players are aware of that little tidbit.

J.B.

January 6th, 2010
3:07 pm

I love, Love, LOVE Mike Milbury’s blog comments re: kovy today…

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/2010/01/is_kovalchuk_worth_the_money_a.html

Ilya Kovalchuk: Gifted indeed. Is he worth the dough? Maybe. Probably not. Definitely not. Most definitely not. That’s my answer and I am sticking with it. Atlanta has made the playoffs once while Kovalchuk has been with the team. He gets his goals and what else? He backchecks occasionally? Oh, thank you. Reports are that Kovalchuk has been offered about $10 million US per season for about the rest of his playing life and he still can’t accept. OK … fair enough. He likes Atlanta but not the Thrashers’ chances of success and he has the right to go free agent. No problem, but can’t he give some relief to the franchise that has been more than fair to him for about a decade?

How about this, Jay Grossman. You’re gonna get your agent fee anyway whether he signs in the NHL or the KHL so why don’t you and your client man up? Meet with Don Waddell and tell him thanks for the memories but you’re on your way out of town. Give the GM, who has been more than fair to you and your client, a list of teams you would be willing to go to. Let him make a deal contingent on your completing a contract with whatever sucker thinks Kovy will turn the franchise around. Too much to ask? Apparently. These are the negotiations that make your stomach turn. Kovy is no Crosby. Kovy is more Kovalev.

Tom

January 6th, 2010
3:16 pm

Great find J.B.

“Apparently. These are the negotiations that make your stomach turn. Kovy is no Crosby. Kovy is more Kovalev.”

I am getting over it very quickly…

J.B.

January 6th, 2010
3:21 pm

thanks. I’m probably one of the biggest Ilya Kovalchuk fans there is but I’m starting to like the idea of trading him for a a good package including a more defensive minded LW. Probably will score half the goals of kovy but would likely prevent more as well. I just want to know and have it over with…

Tom

January 6th, 2010
3:26 pm

USA Juniors Coach on how he built the Gold Medal Winning Team –

*”I didn’t want a bunch of fancy-dancers on my team. I think we showed a lot of grit, we blocked a lot of shots and we back-checked hard.”*

Waddell should be holding his head in shame.

Matt

January 6th, 2010
3:29 pm

Trade Kovy and then fire Waddell. This is a broken record.

What’s that you say? Fire Don Waddell. The team is in 9 game losing streak and multi-generational rebuilding plan? Fire Don Waddell. Your home lacks head and you can play hockey in your living room? Fire Waddell.

Firing Don Waddell is the cure for what ails ya! BTW, Fire Don Waddell.

P.S. Fire Waddell. Then send the ASG on a goodwill tour to Yemen or Afghanistan.

P.P.S. Please, for the love of God and all that is Holy, FIRE DON WADDELL!!

(too subtle?)

Bob

January 6th, 2010
3:55 pm

Matt, one thing, They need to fire Waddell, then trade Kovy. Waddell gets nothing right. Nothing. Nada. The marketing for the club stinks. The uniforms stink. The season ticket holder base has been decimated by him. He can’t draft, he can’t sign, he can’t trade. Apparently his daughter likes him and I like him, as a man, but as a GM, see ya.

We do not want Waddell in charge of the Kovy trade. Dudley can do it.

Anderson and Waddell should be summarily fired today. Do it before tomorrow’s practice. Put Dudley in charge as GM and Cunneyworth in as coach. Let Dudley talk to the agent and work out a sign and trade to a team of his choice. Milbury is right, it would be the decent thing for Kovy to do.

Anyone else getting the idea that Kovy’s facade is crumbling before us just like Hossa’s? Same modus operandi “I like it here, we talk for contract” but meanwhile his play, as we’ve seen for months, regardless of what the Sara’s of the world couldn’t see, has been showing us that he’s on his way out, just like Hossa’s last year here.

For the love of all that is holy, do not let Waddell orchestrate this trade. Someone grab this bull by the horns and do what needs to be done.

Nikita

January 6th, 2010
4:04 pm

I have previously said I’d like to see Kovalchuk gone. I then tempered that by saying that I’d like to see him kept for the right price or the wrong price for a short duration.

But there’s an important issue with regard to Kovalchuk, and that’s that his cost is higher than whatever he’s asking for, which by the way reportedly is the maximum amount he can get. The cost includes the cost of keeping him happy and productive, and it’s not cheap. Reportedly this year that price has been the contracts of three players, the drama of having your captain and by extension his agent made privy to your trading, and the ever-present necessity of maintaining various players on the roster to compensate for his shortcomings. And that’s before we even get into the costs of building a strategy around someone who won’t always at least attempt to implement it or the effect upon the morale of everyone else on that roster. In other words, keeping Kovy means giving up a lot of things.

Among other things, I would suspect that keeping Kovy means that Anderson’s system can never work. That system, which capitalizes on the talents of the coaching staff in recognizing and cultivating young talent, should ideally result in four more or less equal lines. But it never will as long as someone or someones are permitted to be more equal than others. Obviously you pay your top talent more and everyone has a role in the scoring hierarchy. But if you want to have a system where everyone can play well together, and where you get a lot of secondary scoring, then you can’t afford to have a prima donna and his handmaidens taking up half of your roster based only on their scoring ability rather based on what they bring to the team as a whole. You can’t have people who should be contributing secondary scoring instead dishing the puck to a guy who, let’s face it, ought to be good enough to create his own chances for the money he’s being paid.

So…keep Kovy or trade him, whatever. But be aware that as much as Kovy might be Atlanta’s future, it’s going to be a very expensive one and it’s probably going to cost the coaching staff and every developing player attempting to come up through this system.

Schroeder

January 6th, 2010
4:15 pm

I would just like to ask when the last time we got slammed with two or three quick goals in the first period,that somebody dropped the gloves in an effort to try to fire the team up,God knows JA isn’t gonna do anything other than smirk and shrug his shoulders.I don’t give a plump rodents arse about this system or that system at this point.I see NO heart NO grit,that was there in October and November.Back in the 70’s the Flames did not have near the talent this team has,but you let 2 goals get by Myre or Bouchard and I promise you somebody was going to have to deal w/Plett,Mulhern or Vail.Yea those teams sucked a$$ but they didn’t have toe-stops on their skates as these guys have. I wish a vet in the locker room would man-up to #17 and call him out in front of the entire team. I am ashamed to call myself a Thrasher fan!!!!!

GaVaHokie

January 6th, 2010
4:20 pm

I can think of several ways to trade Kovy and set this team up for better days…

Chicago… P. Sharp, C. Barker and Jack Skille
Los Angeles… Frolov, Dustin Brown and Oscar Moller
Phoenix… Yandle, Mueller and a 1st round pick
Montreal… Halak, both Kostitsyns and a 1st round pick

Rawhide

January 6th, 2010
4:23 pm

Matt, one thing, They need to fire Waddell, then trade Kovy. Waddell gets nothing right. Nothing. Nada

Bob – 100% correct. If the team has to be forced to trade Ilya, then they have to fire DW first. I do not want him being in charge of such a trade.

thrasherdawg

January 6th, 2010
4:26 pm

I agree with J.B.

Long ago when we were looking for a coach I stated that the perfect coach for this job was Pat Quinn. Former Atlanta Flame etc. Pat Quinn doesn’t ask for accountability he requires accountability. He’d be in Don’s office begging for a Kovy trade.

Pat Quinn coached teams have finished either 1st or 2nd in the conference 10 out of 19 years. Let me say it again 1st or 2nd in the conference 10 out of 19 years. Even further he has never finished worse than fifth…and we didn’t even talk to him.

Why did we not hire him when we had the chance is beyond me. For me, this is the worst decision this franchise has made in a long time.

Furthermore, let’s trade Kovy (NOW) in a deal with Pavlec…how about to the Ducks for J.S Giguere, Getlaf, and another player. The Ducks are coming to Phillips soon..Kovy can get on the plane with them when they leave.

Kovy is like a smokin red hot chic…it’s fun at first but the brain damage is never worth it.

One last thing…FIRE THE COACH…i’ll coach for free, i may not know what i’m doing but i promise you, when things go wrong, you’ll know i’m passionate about it…and so will the players.

Schroeder

January 6th, 2010
4:59 pm

RAWHIDE,I bow to you sir,LARGE juevos to say that you would not want Mr Fraudell to work a deal.You know that if he hears this he might not give you any straight inside info.(yuk,yuk,yuk) You are now my idol,a beat blogger that shoots from the heart.

Bob

January 6th, 2010
5:00 pm

“I can think of several ways to trade Kovy and set this team up for better days…”

“Chicago… P. Sharp, C. Barker and Jack Skille
Los Angeles… Frolov, Dustin Brown and Oscar Moller
Phoenix… Yandle, Mueller and a 1st round pick
Montreal… Halak, both Kostitsyns and a 1st round pick”

Hokie, unless you forgot to write that first Waddell manages to sign him to a 7year $49m contract, you need to put the bong down. There is no way in h e double hockey sticks that we get anywhere near that return for an unsigned impending UFA playoff rental. Could we have gotten that return a year ago? Mabye. No way we get anywhere near that today, no way.

Matt

January 6th, 2010
5:14 pm

Guys/Gals- I guess I was trying to be too cute with my post the essence of which was, and is, FIRE DON WADDELL. I agree that I would want that to happen first and THEN the inevitable trade of Kovy. With all the figure eights Kovy has carved into the ice in the last month he is sure to get the figure skating medal in Vancouver next month.

Nikita

January 6th, 2010
5:19 pm

Hell, why bother trading Kovy? Why not just let him play when he feels like playing well? I bet he’d love sitting in the press box for the end of the season. And we’d still get a good return on our investment in the form of no more prima donnaing, no more posturing, and no requirement to pay him $10+ mill.

Vindictive, yes, but that’s a choice we have.

Incidentally, all the ranting about everyone else neglects a key fact — that Kovalchuk has pulled this poor play on, what, three coaches now?

NASCAR Dave

January 6th, 2010
5:31 pm

FIRE WADDELL !!!

Goodbye

January 6th, 2010
5:33 pm

You guys can kiss the Thrashers goodbye when Kovy leaves. And you can take Pat Quinn back too, he is in 29th place now with the Oil and his best years were before the lockout – that is the 1994 lockout.

LAC

January 6th, 2010
7:16 pm

There goes nikita doing ONLY what she can do right now, rag on another blogger for telling THE TRUTH.

Do you have a BRAIN nikita ? Do you remember Mr.Pottymouth CUSSING at
STH at a meeting ? Do you REMEMBER that ???? When an owner does that and it was not nice, what would YOU call it ? You’d make an excuse,
as you always do despite the record and as they say… The proof is in the pudding !

Sage & Stendec love your worthless comments !

LAC

January 6th, 2010
7:18 pm

Oh I forgot nikita, zach b. is HORRIBLE at best, who cares about where he was picked, He NEEDS TO GO !

Rawhide

January 6th, 2010
7:21 pm

Schroeder – You are too kind…and I promise you that DW gives me NO inside info…straight or otherwise.

Anyway, if you appreciated that…I’m sure you’ll get a kick out of this.

Miami Screaming Eagle

January 6th, 2010
8:48 pm

Nikita-I think the Kovy situation has come down to the fact that it seems to be too late to save his Thrasher career. I still think the entire Kovy charade is the basic cause the extended Thrasher funk. Anderson and his system is OK, just no on-ice leadership. Scoring, defence and goaltending are all falling apart. I appreciate your post.

Oh and LAC, I still think Mike Leach got screwed, Bet that will send you on another rant.

Brendan

January 6th, 2010
11:34 pm

Well … I can listen to an argument that says, in the strictest of terms, that it’s the GM’s job to draft and sign the best available players, while it’s the coach’s job to develop those players.

Fine. Fair enough.

But, at some point, doesn’t a GM have to answer for who his coach is?, what system/strategy is tried, and the overall direction/oversight of the franchise? Humming the theme to Jeopardy now… “do,doo, do-do, doo-doo-doo. Bum, bah-dum-pump-bah-dah-dum.” Allllrighteeee then. Isn’t it a fair statement to say, “The MOST IMPORTANT THING that a GM does … is hire a coach?” Yes, yes it is. For the coach is charged with getting the most out of the players on the team. A great coach can be stifled by a terribly assembled roster. But likewise, a sure-fire winning roster can be messed up by a Coach. Either way, the person who ANSWERS for wins and losses, over a body of time, is the GM. The GM hires the coach. And in some cases, like Atlanta’s, the GM has SERVED AS COACH, during Ilya’s “minus WHAT???” career. The fact is, ladies and gentlemen, that Ilya Kovalchuk has not been properly developed. What he is … is the greatest pure sniper in the NHL today. He has the best raw skills that, maybe, I’ve ever seen. The one-timer. The wrister. The skating. The passing. His breakaways. It’s just one-big WOW. Notice how I didn’t say, “And his ability to excel defensively.” For his does not do that. He circles up the ice, while the puck is in his own zone, and not in possession of his own team. He’s a cherry picker. He’s constantly thinking, “OFFENSE.” That is NOT … being a COMPLETE player. Ergo, Ilya Kovalchuk has NOT been properly developed by the coaching staffs of the Atlanta Thrashers, since 2001. Bob Hartley TRIED with Ilya. He’d bench him. He’d constantly tell him, “Ilya, you’d be the best player in the NHL if you learned how to play a more committed two-way game.” And Ilya sat there thinking, “Yeah right. I’m already the best winger in the NHL.”