Thrashers Desperately Seeking Sixty

Last November I asked John Anderson what he thought was the one main issue concerning the Thrashers…the one that most needed to be addressed if the Thrashers were going to make a serious run for the playoffs.

Without hesitation he said that the team needed to find a way to play a full 60 minutes on a regular basis. Sure, sure…it’s great that they usually find a way to fight back late in the game, but until they are able to play hard from the first drop of the puck to the last horn…they are going to have a difficult time of it.

“It’s great that they fight back”, the coach said of his team two months ago. “But it would be nice if we could put the other team behind the eight ball for a change”.

Nik Antropov is congratulated by Maxim Afinogenov after scoring against Tampa Bay (AP Photo/Steve Nesius)

Nik Antropov is congratulated by Maxim Afinogenov after scoring against Tampa Bay (AP Photo/Steve Nesius)

Well, it’s late December…Christmas is gone and New Years is a few days away… and the Atlanta Thrashers are still desperately seeking 60 full minutes of play on a consistent basis. And Saturday night’s 4-3 loss in Tampa Bay was just the latest example of this dilemma.

Tied 2-2 after the second period, the Thrashers stood around as if they were still stuffed with holiday turkey and observed as the Lightning outshot them 7-0 during the first 16:50 of that final frame. The first shot on goal for the Atlanta was when Ilya Kovalchuk scored his 22nd goal of the season…but that was after Tampa Bay had built a 4-2 lead earlier in the period.

The two Lightning goals were scored without a whole heckuva lot of resistance from the Thrashers defense. The first cam after Vinny Lecavalier found Steve Downey all alone on the right side of the goal…who then found Alex Tanguay all alone streaking through the left side. Tanguay buried the shot for just his fifth goal of the season.

A minute and forty-one seconds later, Ryan Malone was left all alone and was able to pound home a nice rebound off of Marty St. Louis shot.

The Thrashers took five more shots against Mike Smith after Kovy’s goal but were not able to get the game tied and to overtime. In the end it was the 15th regulation loss of the season…nine of which have been by a single goal.

And after this loss, Anderson said…“We’ve got to play for 60 minutes…We just can’t play defense whenever we feel like it. Two hugest mistakes ended up in our net”.

There’s that “60 minutes” thing again, eh?

But the coach wasn’t alone in this thought as Ondrej Pavelec also remarked on the inconsistent Thrashers performances. “We played a good game and then we stopped playing for whatever reason”, said Atlanta’s goalie. “I don’t know what’s going on. It’s almost every game like that”.

Opie stopped 30 of the Lightning’s 34 shots on goal and took the loss. His overall record has now dropped to 9-10-3 with a .906 SV% and 3.42 GAA. He’s started six games so far in the month of December and he’s won only once while losing five. He’s faced 217 shots in December and has made 188 saves…a saves percentage of just .866.

Although he started Wednesday’s game in Boston…and surrendered 3 goals on 8 shots in just half a period, he did not take the loss in that game.

One Thrasher who has had a very good December is Nik Antropov. He score Atlanta’s first goal of the night to put the team ahead early. It was Nik’s eighth goal in the last nine games dating back to the loss in Vancouver. In the last four games, Antropov is a +4.

Marty Reasoner scored his third of the season, tying the score at 2-2 with 3:06 remaining in the second period.

Atlanta will play Monday night in New Jersey and Wednesday back in Boston to wind up calendar year 2009. Last I checked…those games, and the ones to be played in 2010, are all slated to be 60 minute games. The Thrashers had better find a way to play every minute of them…or they will find it very, very difficult to see their first minute of playoff action in the spring.

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stendec

December 27th, 2009
1:16 am

Morning Rawhide. orgive re-post. So too darn tired and disgusted to think of another right now. Happy New Year pal….Professional teams which tank get what they deserve! The Yardbirds gave up once again south of the Georgia border. A completely heartless giveup job against the Tampa Bay Lightning! Pavs is almost as much of a sieve as Kari Lehtonen. El Kapitan Ilya Kovalchuk continues to be in Maryann Hossa mode. Just biding his time until he reaches his next destination. The losers have the no score offense of Coach John Petrino down pat. The Yardbirds are a total embarrassment to themselves, their parents, their two remaining fans and God! Wish them well in Hamilton. Sorry. That was a lie. Hope they freeze their uncaring quitting a$$es off! Does Gnome need a semi pro hockey team? These bestards can certainly not be classified as professionals! To Hell with all of them. ++STENDEC++ All apologists will get ignored!

stendec

December 27th, 2009
1:17 am

Excuse typos. Sorta sleepy. ++STENDEC++

Mr. Heat Miser

December 27th, 2009
2:19 am

I’m just gonna keep sayin it. Defense wins championships. Good to see ya tonight Raw.

Brendan

December 27th, 2009
2:27 am

Well, when I first looked at the title of the blog, I thought sixty (60) was the number of points the Thrashers need to secure their playoff berth. The actual number, by guestimate, is 54 more points. Atlanta is, per NHL.com, in playoff position, by virtue of fewer games played than the NY Rangers. Here’s your link. http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?season=20092010&type=CON

This road trip hasn’t gone according to plan. I feel sorry for Moose getting tagged for the loss at Boston. He inherited a lobsided score, and the boys rallied late to make it, 5-4. But the NHL says that the goalie who is in net when the winning score is made takes the loss. Things have to start turning around. Perhaps the enhanced play of Nik Antropov is the answer. Nik had only one goal for the longest time this season. I think he was 1G, 19A, for 20-points in the first 21 or 22 games of the season. But we’re now at 37 games, folks.

I repeat, 37 games. That’s just four (4) shy of the mid-term mark. And I’m sure, Professor Rawhide has his red GRADING pen out, ready for 2nd quarter grades to be dispensed. I think Antropov will like his 2nd stanza marks. Not sure how the special teams play will like their marks, however.

Folks, it’s late …we’re sleepy. And maybe, a bit cranky after a loss …. But this team cannot sustain any long losing streaks and still hope to make the playoffs. The rest of the field won’t lie dormantly about as we squander points. Tonight, Atlanta got the lead. They didn’t hold it.

There’s something else to remember about Christmas time in the NHL … in 2004, Tampa Bay was out of the playoff field and won the Cup. In 2009, it was the same deal with Pittsburgh. They fired Therrien in favor of Dan Bylsma. The rest is history. In 2006, the NJ Devils were 17-points out of 1st place in the Atlantic, but on the final day, in the final hours of that season, they won the Atlantic. In 2009, Carolina was outside of the playoff field. The ‘Canes won nine-straight down the stretch to bank 18 of 22 possible points in their final eleven (11) games to finish SIXTH in the conference. And?? And Carolina went to the CF last year.

So??? So nothing, per se. It’s just good to keep some perspective about what’s STILL POSSIBLE at or around the Holidays. At least Atlanta has put themselves in a position where they’re still very much IN THE HUNT for a playoff spot. It’s not like Atlanta needs 61 more points out of the remaining 90 possible points on the schedule. They need 54 points in the 45 games still left to play. They can do it. But the GM can’t fall asleep at the trade deadline. The trade deadline might not seem like a big thing, but it can make or break a franchise for a few years. Acquiring the right player, with years left on the contract or not, can mean all the difference. And, as we saw in 2007, it can be costly. Tkachuk, Zhitnik, Belanger. It’s where a GM helps to earn his paycheck. Or potentially lose it. Unfortunately for Atlanta, action or INACTION with Kovalchuk … at the trade deadline … could be quite damaging to the future.

Cornbread

December 27th, 2009
2:48 am

I do not like the way the Thrashers look coming out of their zone and through the neutral zone. But, the problems are deeper than that. The team that played in October and November is the team many of us who have been paying attention predicted. The team that is playing now is the team that the rest of League, columnists, and those not paying attention predicted, a team that can not play.

Barry

December 27th, 2009
3:48 am

That pretty much sums it up Rawhide. I mean the Thrashers just quit in the 3rd period after that 3rd goal was scored. To not register a SOG in the 3rd period until almost 17 mins is just completely unheard of. Players including Bogosian, Slava, White, Kubina just had bad game turning the puck over or just not giving a *bleep* on defense. I don’t know if Anderson yells or gets mad at this team, but he seriously needs to lay down the law in that locker room. These players need to seriously be held accountable. Thrashers are on the near verge of not being in the playoff race anymore. They are barely holding onto the 8th spot right now. They have lost 4 in a row and looked like a pathetic excuse for a hockey team.

Matt

December 27th, 2009
7:57 am

Dump Todd White now!! Trade Kovy and begin the next 10+ year plan!! Fire Waddell! Sell the team ASG!! There, I feel a little better, but Man, do we stink right now. This is just absolutely maddening and happens game after game after game after game.

Has Coach Anderson lost the players, do they just not care or are we simply not good enough to play “the system” (whatever the heck IT is!)Apparently the team (which admittedly was pretty lucky to start the season) was a mirage and we are now witnessing the team as they really are. Close does NOT count in the NHL.

POTF

December 27th, 2009
8:00 am

Whether not playing defense, not being able to account for offense unless the other team is on it’s heals late, not having the team ready to play 60, or for whatever the current reason happens to be, the SYSTEM SEEMS FLAWED.

Fan from Carolina

December 27th, 2009
8:29 am

This could have been even uglier if not for incredible toe/pad saves off St Louis in the first and Stamkos in the 3rd. These were open net goals that were somehow saved. Let’s not forget Wright missing an open net off a Tangauy feed also. This one could easily have been 7-3 and against a team that has been shut out routinely this year. Really poor defensive effort!

LAC

December 27th, 2009
8:53 am

Look at New Jersey, they play solide backchecking defense, clog the middle and do the best job in the NHL on the breakout. BTW Monday night, NJ 5 Atl 0.

Look at us, defense running around with NO idea where to be or when to be there, hanisey/zach b./enstrom are TERRIBLE, how many games has/will this zach cost us this season ? I can name 4-5 he has LOST for us this season, He is just flat THE WORST Defenseman on the team. I would not one bit object trading him right now. Then enstrom, constantly beaten to the outside, cannot move bigger players off the puck, too busy thinking offense, he forgot how to play defense. hanisey, just about out of position 99% of the time.

Then Capatin creampuff, has ANYONE seen him go to the corners and fight for the puck in the defensive zone ? I haven’t, he lingers out at the blue line waiting while someone else does all the work. He is coasting, just like hossa did and this contract mess is a BIG issue. Plus he continues to lie to all of us about wanting to stay, BS I say, trade his
carcass asap.

Then the Great todd white, the most worthless player on the team. This guys is so bad, words cannot describe it. He is hindering the play of Kane who does hustle and backcheck, with a better center he could be much more effective.

Then anderson, he has completely LOST this team. The man knows NOTHING about DEFENSE, nothing, look at it, we stink… He refuses to sit players, aka zach b. for poor play and makes bad line changes and on and on and on.

Then The Master of Disaster, Let’s see, Dumb, Stupid, Liar, Idiot,
I could go on forever on don waddell, this one person is all by his lonesome destroying NHL hockey in Atlanta. How many GOOD players has he let walk, Burnette/Savard/Hossa, then those great trades, we won’t go there. But what gets me most is his CONSTANT LYING, he lies and lies and lies… That interview the other night spoke volumes, he never once looked at the camera, and then we hear there is an issue about years and $. That should have been item ONE, easy to start off with, but we
ALL know waddell could not get a deal done with Ilya for anything.

Lastly where are these worthless lying owners ? Too busy at the basketball games, which I would NEVER attend…

This franchise is doomed for failure because the owners will NOT make changes, why, they are all too STUPID, and I really, really believe the team will be GONE after this season and two more, I will never attend a game in person until waddell at the very least is FIRED, it is not even woth the time to discuss it anymore either.

Get The Puck Out

December 27th, 2009
8:57 am

No defense, poor passing, and a general lackluster effort against a team they should be able to beat. And now we gotta play New Jersey. Gotta get it together NOW.

five_hole

December 27th, 2009
9:42 am

Agreed with Barry when he said Kubina had a lousy game. I’m willing to forgive him, as he’s been our most consistant defenseman this year, and he’s entitled to an “off night”. What’s the excuse for the rest of them? Todd White should be embarrassed to cash his paycheck. Outside of some power play time, Slava was completely invisible. I’m normally a fan of Peverley’s but even he had no game last night. And this was vs the Lightning, another team in our division.

I hope Kane’s OK. The kid looked shaken (not stirred) after that hit in the 3rd period, and he’s one of the few that give everything they have on the ice every shift.

NorthStarsDave

December 27th, 2009
9:55 am

We will really know about how playoff ready the Thrashers are in the next 6 games….all on the road…New Jersey, Boston and Buffalo and the Islanders back-to-back, then Pittsburgh before one of those wonderful Thursday Home contests against the Rangers….four teams currently above the Thrashers in the standings…the Rangers who we are tied with and Isles only 3 pts. out…the Devils, Bruins, Sabres and are three of the top defensive teams (based on GA) in the NHL….and ALL are Conference teams

We have seen this all too often the defensive breakdowns…and if the goalies are not “on”, then the Thrashers enter the only period they generally play…the 3rd…down by a couple of goals….and still not playing defense….and too often of late are coming up a goal short.

I agree with those that think White needs to sit…he is -9…but look at Slava before throwing darts at Kovy….Slava is a team worst -11…Kovy is having his best season at a -1…same as Mad Max…

Maybe Zach (-7) and Hainsey (-6) need to remember that they are not wingers….and Little (-6) needs to prove he is not a one-year wonder…

The time is NOW….Hopefully the Team realizes that the next 6 games will prove how Playoff worthy this team is….if it proves to be as bad as the last 10 (3-6-1)…then the Thrashers will trade Kovy…and miss the Playoffs….

HookyBob

December 27th, 2009
10:43 am

I found myself asking “How can they (Tampa) have guys sooooo… open sooooo… often?”

While I can’t say our birds played 60 minutes,.. these seemed to be momentary lapses,..or rather a series of costly momentary lapses. Add to that our best “stay at home” D-man has a bad game and look what happens. There may also be a bit of the “law of averages” catching up. Yep, the problems last night were multi-factorial.

Most of these factors point to our D-Men. We didn’t give up 40+ shots, but if there is a “shot quality” measure, last night’s would have ranked very high. If we should know how to defend any team,…I would think it would the Bolts. Is it time to get Chelios up here?

Finally, defense is a total team responsiblity,..if you want to play in the 2nd season. Boring as it is, I think our coaches need to watch some video of the Devils.

Oh,..guess who’s up next? Better watch a lot of video before Monday night.

Go Blue. Snuff out the Devils.

So anyone know how many of our guys will be playing in Vancouver this Feb?

Scotty

December 27th, 2009
10:47 am

Man oh man was last night’s game a bummer. We left the Bolts forwards all alone too many times. Can’t win that way.

Need a win real bad in Jersey.

NorthStarsDave

December 27th, 2009
11:03 am

The Canadian Team is being announced on the 30th….the US Team will be announced in Boston on New Year’s at the Winter Classic…

Kovy and Mad Max were named to the Russian Team….

Toby was on the Sweden Team that were the World Champs last year…

The link to all of the National Teams is below…also shows the jerseys…pretty cool….

http://www.nationalteamsoficehockey.com/NTRosters.html

NorthStarsDave

December 27th, 2009
11:07 am

The best are…in no particular order…Canada, Isreal, Sweden…and, of course…USA….

Hockey Biltong

December 27th, 2009
11:32 am

Nice link NSD!
I posed this question a while ago; Who would be a key addition that the Thrashers should aquire by the trade deadline??? Defenceman? Centerman?
It seems that we need some glue, chemistry, to spark our beloved Thrash past this quagmire they are in.
Notwithstanding the Kovy issues, who would you pick?????

Smoothie

December 27th, 2009
11:35 am

Bill, good to see you last night. And I enjoyed finally meeting Russian, glovesave and making Daculafan’s acquaintance once again.

Well, I’m as at a loss as anyone about this team. But I do feel it is time to shake things up. The kids in Chicago who are putting forth an honest, lunchpail effort night in and night out need to get a look. I’d like to see Kulda, Machacek and perhaps even a hungry vet journeyman like Stapleton. JA must do something to show these guys it is unacceptable to coast and loaf.

The worst part about getting Kubina in here was losing a player like Stuart, who Burke didn’t even want. The kid is having another solid year in the AHL. He would be the perfect complement to Kane and we know he had chemistry with Reasoner, who by the way should be getting Todd White’s minutes on the 3rd line.time to bench White and Slava and see what happens.

Kovy – Antro – Max

Kane – Pevs – Army

Machacek – Reasey – Little / Stapleton

Greek Gods

Every line but Kovy’s would be better at getting the puck deep and cycling it. There is defensive awareness on each line and no one who can’t get back on D from the O zone as long as we stop taking so many stupid chances at the blueline.

Hotrod

December 27th, 2009
11:49 am

Well another one goal loss. Those are beginning to grate the last raw nerve.Its becoming unwatchable.

Dont know when the trade cut offs are but I think a trade should be looming.I still think we can squeek in the 8th spot but not with this group.Defense is still too leaky.

Bogo to Chicago, open season on -6’s and below.

HookyBob

December 27th, 2009
12:17 pm

Thanks for the link NSD. Fun to see all the world there. Must say I didn’t recognize any names on the US. I’m guessing I will once the rosters are announced. Sorta hoping Kubina and Pavlec will get to play in Vancouver. Torn though as a good rest might be very helpful.

Hey Rawhide did you notice that the guy with the big pads is called “Goal Keeper” on this international listing?

Hockey Biltong: I gotta think we need a gritty D-Man before the trade deadline. Truth be told the sooner the better,..don’t wait until the trade deadline.

NorthStarsDave

December 27th, 2009
12:42 pm

Thanks Hockey Biltong and HookyBob….

How about Gleason or Ward from Carolina….Staios (remember him??) from Edmonton….Eminger of the Ducks…Sydor of the Blues…or one of Wild’s D-Men…who should know how to play D…Hnidy or Schultz?

Smoothie

December 27th, 2009
1:00 pm

Regardless, I think we need to make a trade sooner than later. Hopefully, Kari will get healthy enough to play by mid-January so Waddudley can start working the phones to bring in a shut-down defenseman or even deal Kovy to a team with Stanley Cup aspirations in order to shore up this line-up that seems to be weakening by the day in its ability to stop the other team. Has Bogosian played 70 NHL games yet? If not, perhaps a stint in Chicago would help. I’d like to see Kulda get a shot playing 3rd pairing with Schubert while Valabik and Hainsey get re-acquainted as pair-mates. If he has played over 70 games, then he can’t go down without clearing waivers first.

NorthStarsDave – Staios or Gleason might be a welcome addition to this team. We need a steadying veteran presence for this unit to even out some of the inconsistency. However, Hainsey is one of the most erratic players we have; great one game and miserable the next. Perhaps a less risky pairing such as Valabik or Schubie might do him some good. We can’t afford to bench Hainsey considering his salary and the fact he has an “A”.

sisu

December 27th, 2009
1:27 pm

Bench Doris and put Salmela in to start….I have no idea how a clumsy big dman gets to play other than he was the 8th overall pick.

NorthStarsDave

December 27th, 2009
1:27 pm

HookyBob….alot of the US players on this roster are in the Minors…old timers like me should recognize names like Battaglia and Meloche…to name a few…and if we look at the Juniors team, notice Bourque name….

Dwayne

December 27th, 2009
1:43 pm

I’d like to see Pevs center Kane and Little on the 2nd line.

Viking

December 27th, 2009
1:46 pm

My previous optimism has turned negative lately. This can turn really ugly very fast. On top of it, 4 teams in our Conference got “freebie points” last night! (The point system is ridiculous)

Anyway, NorthStarsDave, I was surprised to see some of the nations having a hockey team. I wonder how Team Rawhide Rowdies would perform against Macau or Morocco…

As mentioned in other blog entries, our prospect Morin is on the Junior US team and I believe he has a goal so far in the WJC. So has also Klingberg, (for Sweden).

Also, the Olympic roster for most nations are now announced. By nature, I keep up with Sweden, which show some surprises both in and outside the team. But I guess it is a result of the recent correlation between being a top Swedish player and injury. Some seem to have recovered already. Franzen, öhlund, Oduya, D. Sedin, Zetterberg, Modin, Kronwall, Alfredsson, Forsberg (this time not foot but rib injury) has either just recovered or are currently injured. Most of them are still listed for the Olympics.

Brendan

December 27th, 2009
2:26 pm

Can’t wait to hear Glenn “Chico” Resch’s comments on the Thrashers in the next Devils-Thrashers game. Should be awesome.

Cornbread

December 27th, 2009
2:28 pm

The worst D-man of late has without a doubt been Bogosian. I believe one of the main reasons Hainsey’s numbers and play at times looks so bad is because his partner is completely out of position. (Let’s not forget that Bogo has already been split-up with Enstrom this season. Enstrom wasn’t the problem.) Tampa’s second goal that Bogosian allowed last night is completely unacceptable for an NHL defenseman when he gave his man the middle of the ice at the blue line and allowed him to get between him and the puck. Hainsey had his man, Bogo did not. Now, all blame can not be placed on them alone. It started with a neutral zone turnover by the Kapitan and Max trying to once again stretch a hail-mary pass. How’s that been working out lately? This team lacks the offensive punch they had early on because other teams have figgured the Thrash out and are shutting them down early. They have become more responsible defensively and the Thrash have become more irresponsible. That won’t won’t win you any play-off games even if your lucky enough to get there.

Nate

December 27th, 2009
2:53 pm

Remember the headshaking news segments on SNL? The Thrashers could be put on loop for those…even when they win. This team…just…wow…

jeff

December 27th, 2009
4:39 pm

It’s time to trade away Ilya,he plays no defense always waiting around center ice for a breakaway.Ilya wants way too much money,he would deplete the ability to sign any other players wanting 20% of the salary cap.Trade Ilya for a decent goalie Montreal has two good ones and maybe he could screw up there team.Something has got to give and it ain’t gonna be Ilya

HookyBob

December 27th, 2009
4:54 pm

NSD so, oldtimer, does the name Henry Boucha ring a bell (w/o google)?

R. Stroz

December 27th, 2009
5:28 pm

Well, I believe nearly everyone is in agreement that the Thrashers are fading. The question is what should be done. Here are my solutions, and yes, some are rather radical.

1) If Bogosian isn’t subject to waivers, send Bogosian down to Chicago for Chelios to mentor. Bogosian has been on the wrong side of a parabolic curve for the last two months. Hopefully, a little humble pie and some mentoring would straighten him out.

2) Waive Todd White, he is useless, done, kaput.

3) Put Kozlov in the pressbox for a few games.

4) Get Stuart back from Calgary. When Stuart was placed on waivers by Calgary, I hoped the Thrashers would pick him back up. Unfortunatley, Waddell didn’t have the brains to do so.

5) After making the adjustments above, change the forward lines to the following:

Line 1: Kovy-Antropov-Max

Line 2: Little-Peverley-Kane

Line 3: Stuart-Reasoner-Armstrong

Line 4: Thorburn-Slater-Boulton

6) Implement more than one set of passes to clear the zone. Every team in the league knows the puck is being rimmed around to the half-wall to a waiting winger, waiting to be smashed by a pinching defensemen and forward from the other team.

7) If Anderson is too dense to realize White doesn’t belong on the ice and his system needs periodic adjustments, fire Anderson.

Well, that should do it for now.

Thoughts?

Cornbread

December 27th, 2009
5:39 pm

Ten games ago I called out Armstrong for his team worst play at the time and suggested that it be he who should sit instead of White as Rawhide and many others called for. Since then Armstrong has been the best player on the team at least in his responsibility going 4,3, and 7pts with a +7 in his last 10. White a not too bad 0, 3 and 3 with an Even rating, not too bad for a 3rd or 4th line center that is.

The worst? Little 2,2 and 4pts, -8 and Kozlov 3,2 and 5pts, -7. Followed closely by Peverly 2,5 and 7pts, -5, Afinoginov 2,7 and 9pts, -5, and Reasoner at 1,0 and 1pt, -3.

Kovalchuk, despite his maddening defensive play of late, is a very good 6,8 and 14pts with an Even rating. I think the past few games he is stepping it up again on O but the rest of the team is not responding, yet. Antropov, along with Armstong, has looked the best. He has gone an impressive team best 8 goals along with 3 helpers and 11pts and a -1. How many assists did he rack up before he got his first goal?

Kane, Boulton, Thorburn, and even Slater are doing their jobs as third and fourth liners with decent numbers but it would be nice to see Kane pick it up and be better than 1,1 and 2pts with an Even rating. He has too much talent to be falling off like he has over the past 10-20 games.

Once again, White does not deserve to sit. There are plenty of others like Kozlov and Little who deserve a little time-off over him. Funny thing is, ten games ago I actually thought the Little White Russian Line was starting to click, especially Little, but the very next game Anderson broke them up. White has not done anything spectacular to help or hurt the team since. With the numbers Little and Kozlov have, it’s clear they haven’t helped much either and are actually doing more damage.

Maybe now that they are called-out, along with Bogosian’s worst among D-men 0,4 and 4pts, -5, they’ll turn things around like Armstrong did. Here’s hoping.

gcs

December 27th, 2009
5:40 pm

I was getting pretty excited when they went 9-3-2 (including the 8-1-2 run) in November. But December has not been good.

Can NOT miss the playoffs.

Can NOT lose Kovy.

I am getting kinda nervous…

.

NorthStarsDave

December 27th, 2009
6:11 pm

HookyBob….I believe he wore #9….he came out of the penalty box and killed some guy…used the end of his stick…a LOT of blood and controversy….really bad for hockey, as I remember….no need for Google here….

Let’s go back a little further…Jude Drouin was a neighbor of ours….wore #16…traded with JP Parise to the Isles….

Gilles Gilbert was a North Star BEFORE he was a Bruin…

Gump Worsley was Caesar Maniago’s back-up….all of the kids did the Goldy Shuffle…Sweet Lou Nanne was a youngster….Danny Grant had a very hard slap shot…and Fred Barrett wished they had the goal posts they have now…I believe he broke his collarbone twice crashing in to the goal post….

Anyone else? How about some Fighting Saints?

Matt

December 27th, 2009
7:02 pm

North Star Dave”

Ahhhh, the old St. Paul Civic Center with the clear plexiglass all the way to the ice. Was great to watch the State High School tourney there, and the inevitable Tourney snow storm.

What about Bobby Smith? All that guy could ever do was wrap the puck around from behind the net and get knocked off his skates.

Brian Lawton gets my vote for worst draft pick of all time!!

Tim Young, possibley the laziest forward ever to don the uniform.

I remember going to games when I was a kid in the 70’s and being able to sit just about anywhere. Thrash fans, and many Thrash bashers around the NHL, that even hockey in Minnesota struggled when the teams did poorly. (which was basically until the 80′). Remember the guy at the door yelling “Progams, get your progams, names and numbies”?

HookyBob

December 27th, 2009
7:10 pm

NSD,..those were the days my friend.

I don’t recall Henry’s # but do recall one of his slap shots went through the back boards in my hometown rink (MSHSL region 8).

When Modano hangs up his skates an era will end and that franchise will be forever be changed. (The 93 move already terminated one of the best logos in sports.) A lot of fans, myself included, will look to other teams.

Back to the Thrashers: I have a melancholy feeling about our boys in blue “returning to earth.” Before I was less concerned about bad games,…now they are stringing them together,…and reminiscant of Thrasher teams past.

Stroz, I like your ideas,…but think more is needed to improve our D.

Hopefully, our boys will put his fan’s fearful emotions to rest with a great game against NJ.

Go Blue.

Rawhide

December 27th, 2009
7:39 pm

Good evening all…in my haste to post this entry last night I totally forgot to mention what a great time it was at TJs last night. As always, Tim,Mark and the entire staff were outstanding entertaining well over 100 Thrashers fans there. Lisa Lewis and Sean Grace of the Atlanta Thrashers Fan Club outdid themselves putting together a great party that made watching the game most enjoyable.

My brother and I had the pleasure of sitting with Russian and his sons and father…Daculafan…Glovesave29…Paminski and Mr. Paminski…as well as a very nice couple who classified themselves as “lurkers”. It was a lot of fun indeed.

If you haven’t yet come out to watch a game at TJs, do yourself a favor and….DO IT!

Smoothie – Great to see you and the lovely Miss Ten as always.

HookyBob – Yes…I did see where they were called “goalkeepers”. And yes…I got a chuckle out of it. I’m sure there is someone out there who is pounding away at there keyboard pointing out that E-GREEEEeeeee-gious error. Certainly they must know that only in soccer is the term “goalkeepers” to be used…not in hockey. :roll:

Cornbread – Very well thought out post…you make some great points. All that being said…if I had any sayso in the matter, I would sit Todd White’s butt in the press box right now.

RStroz – Nicely done, sir…but with all due respect, there is no way I send Bogosian to Chitown. Sit him in the press box for a game or two…yeah, I’d go with that. Bogosian’s play on the defensive side of the ice has slipped recently…but I think he’s gonna be benifited more by staying with team and the playing through things.

Brendan

December 27th, 2009
9:48 pm

I’ve never fully understood the rules of waiver claims, vis-a-vis recent draft picks like Bogosian. Methinks he’s protected from a claim. But, I could be wrong. Having Chelios mentor Zach is a great idea. But, how would that work? Promote Chelios? He’s not signed with the Thrashers. I might sit Bogosian, but I wouldn’t put him in the AHL. That’s not really going to help him.

As for Todd White, I might sit ‘em if it does him some good. There are many players I’d consider sitting for a game or two.

Re: Kozlov, I’d have been begging him to relinquish his NTC since training camp. I don’t he’ll accommodate, but I’m unclear as to WHY?? Why wouldn’t Slava want to be traded to a contender??

Re: Kovalchuk, he’s having one of his better +/- years. But, I think the contract negotiations may alse be leverage to make sure the AS, LLC spends to the cap limit at the deadline. His “promise” to re-sign, provided that Waddell delivers the guys he wants here, could help. Normally, I’d never say, “let a player dictate what a franchise does.” But in this case … I can understand it.

The AS, LLC is supposed to act like owners. Do they? Enough of the time?

thrasherdawg

December 27th, 2009
11:23 pm

I now have several millions of dollars to buy the team…one-hundred million more and i think i’m ready to make an offer.

First, I’d fire the coach…offense doesn’t win champioships, defense does. The problem is simple, in the nhl every single player is too talented. kovy get’s stood up almost every time by any average nhl defenseman…in the league below it would be totally opposite. it’s not unlike hawaii averaging 500 or 600 yards a game then when they play a team at the next level they can’t even get a first down. What will work for the Chicago Wolves will not work at the nhl level…every player is to smart and to talented.

The Thrashers look like a bunch of 10 year olds not knowing where they are supposed to be…wondering aimlessly. the system is to complicated…play defense and play hockey, period. We have defensemen that aren’t even in the television screen when we get scored on because they think they are supposed to play forward a certain percentage of the time.

As for Kovy…I would trade him tomorrow. The only reason he has the goals he has is because everyone goes out of their way to pass him the puck. I’d take Peverley over Kovy any day of the week. Trade Kovy now before everyone figures out what chico Resch already knows.

LAC

December 27th, 2009
11:31 pm

Everyone has the problems pinned down nicely… Now if Stupid waddell would listen to THE FANS, instead of doing what HE wants to do, we might start playing better…

Kirk27

December 27th, 2009
11:43 pm

WE HAVEN’T WON A GAME IN REGULATION IN ALMOST A MONTH. OUCH!

NorthStarsDave

December 28th, 2009
7:04 am

Matt and HookyBob…thanks for allowing me to be 8 again….

Have a Modano North Stars jersey…I only wear it to Thrasher games…and tennis matches…

Lawton was a Minnesota guy…they had to draft him…Bobby Smith was GREAT for the franchise…

The St. Paul Civic Center….with the playoff bound Saints with the former Olympic goalie….the clear boards….got to see the Howe’s play with Houston Aeros!!! Now if Houston can support a team (they won two championships), certianly Atlanta can…..

As for the Thrashers, trade for a defensive minded d-man…hurry…Bogo is only playing the way he was taught…which is the new NHL everyone…look at Detroit (ok, maybe not this year…but how about Washington)…both teams transition out of their own zone very quickly…a lot of time with a d-man carrying the puck starting a rush…

BTW…thasherdawg and everyone else on the fire the Coach bandwagon….Pittsburgh won the Cup last year…please tell everyone where their coach came from? While you are at it, please tell everyone where the coach of the team the Pens beat for the Conference title came?? They only lead the SE and the East….

Carnac the Magnificent

December 28th, 2009
8:39 am

Hoping for Kari to be in net before its too late. Looks like Moose and Opie are coming back down to earth and playing how I thought they would. Before the season ever started I knew the Thrashers would score goals, but goaltending was the key.

Hotrod

December 28th, 2009
9:45 am

Bogosian is 19 yrs old. I doubt a quick stint at the Wolves will derail his entire career. Its not a punishment. I think of it as a gage to see how he is defending against one level down. Pal around with Chelios and come back.

Bogo stated out great this year then some switched got turned in the wrong direction. He has just gotten schooled bad these past couple of months.

Smoothie

December 28th, 2009
9:59 am

Not surprising to see a few growing pains from an impatient 19 y/o. He wants to be great and I think he is now a little gunshy after getting burned with some riskier play earlier in the season. You can tell he is trying to be more careful but it is hurting his game. He is better when he plays balls-to-the-wall and with a bit of an edge. Well, that edge has not really been there for several weeks now. He’ll turn it around soon, but a stint alongside Chelios would do ANY youngster good.

Rawhide, tell your brother it was a pleasure meeting him as well. I wish for the sake of you, your bro, Razor’s fiancee etc that I wasn’t in such a crappy frame of mind after the game. But then again, who was feelin’ all that great after that pathetic display in the 3rd period!

PS – great seeing and chatting with Paminski at the party as well. Thanks for swinging by our table and shootin’ the breeze with us!!

Midfield

December 28th, 2009
10:44 am

I have a nagging suspicion that Anderson is losing control of his bench. I understand that it may have been a bad off-side non-call that broke the game, but whining about officiating is not enough. You can’t have players stop and wait for the “right” call that may never come. Make sure they understand: YOU DON”T EVER STOP PLAYING UNTIL YOU HEAR THE WHISTLE, John.

Russian

December 28th, 2009
11:25 am

After I saw Tampa game at Saturday I realize that Atlanta is a BIG TROUBLE now. We are sitting at 8-th position with 40 points, which is good. BUT NYR has 40 points, then Florida -39 points, then Philly -38 points. We have to play 5 games, let’s see what we can get.
1. NJ – today. Marty will play and he will play GOOD. He did not forget last game when he allowed 3 goals for 6 shots. I think we will lose this game.
2. Boston – Thomas is good as Marty. I think we can get one point.
3. Buffalo – no way we get a point. Buffalo will kill us so badly.
4. NYI – we might win this game in OT or SO, but it will be very difficult, because we play in Buffalo.
5. Pittsburg – Do you want answer for that? Yes you are right. We will lose this game too.
We might have a 3 points maximum for whole Away Trip. It is very bad result. End of the trip we will be around 12-13-th position. I think it is time to FIRE Anderson. He is not doing a job very good. He has all players and team was build very strong. He could not make result. Don and Dudley should fire him and start to look for a new coach.

Carnac the Magnificent

December 28th, 2009
11:58 am

Good post Russian, I feel if they were to fire JA, Don Waddell would coach the rest of the year. I also feel he would make everyone, including Kovy, to play defense. And that my friend, would get Thrashers in the playoffs. Kari getting healthy and in net would give Thrashers a chance in the first round.