Ilya Kovalchuk and Thrasherville’s 5,000-pound reindeer

As Thrashervillians hustle to and fro getting their holiday shopping wrapped up…while at the same time enjoying their team’s 17-11-3 record thus far…there still is this one subject looming over our heads. It is the topic of discussion that has been with us for quite a while, mind you…stirring about in the background of our conversations as spring turned to summer and the summer gave way to fall…through Halloween, into Thanksgiving weekend…and now as we prepare for our annual winter holidays.

That subject is, of course, the ongoing contract talks between the Thrashers’ organization and their captain Ilya Kovalchuk. Now, as fall cedes to winter, Hanukah has begun and Christmas rapidly approaches…it remains with us still. And while much has already been said in the topic…the time is rapidly approaching where chatter must give way to action.

Could John Anderson soon have to deal with a Thrashers squad minus Kovalchuk? (AP Photo/The Canadian Press, Darryl Dyck)

Could John Anderson soon have to deal with a Thrashers squad minus Kovalchuk? (AP Photo/The Canadian Press, Darryl Dyck)

Up ‘til this time, Kovy’s contract status was much like that tiny mouse in Clement Clark Moore’s poem of 1822 who ceases it’s stirring on Christmas Eve. It was there, certainly…but not a big problem just yet.

However, the more time passes it begins to appear less like that small rodent and more like a 5,000-pound reindeer in the middle of Santa’s pack.

When a creature that size stirs about, one cannot help but take notice…and it isn’t taking Christmas off, either.

Furthermore, the longer this 5,000-pound reindeer hangs around…the more likely it becomes that it’ll bring down this promising season much in the same fashion the oversized Rudolph would drag down ol’ St. Nick’s sleigh if left attached with the rest of the team of flying reindeer.

But why is this discussion more prominent now than a few weeks back…or a few weeks from now, you ask? Well, I’m glad you asked.

See, if we go back to last September, we find this article posted by Jeff Schultz just before the season began. When asked about Kovy’s contract situation, general manager Don Waddell offered up the following response…“I don’t think we’ll be talking about this at Christmas time”.

Hmmmm… well, given that the weather has turned a bit colder… I still have trips to make to Costco, Macy’s, Walmart and Borders Book Store in the coming nine days…and that the program interrupted a few weeks back by President Obama was “A Charlie Brown Christmas”…it seems as though Christmas is indeed upon us.

And we are still “talking about this”.

Then there is this little write up fresh off the Russian presses…which basically states that Waddell and Kovalchuk’s agent, Jay Grossman, are at a bit of an impasse. According to the story…as I understand it with great assistance from our good friend and frequent contributor “Russian”… Grossman is asking for 10-years at the maximum allowable pay of $11.5 million per year. Waddell and the Thrashers, reportedly, are worried that this is more money than they want to shell out to retain Kovy’s services beyond this year.

Ilya Kovalchuk was the top draft pick in 2001 and has scored 314 goals for the Thrashers (AP photo/John Bazemore)

Ilya Kovalchuk was the top draft pick in 2001 and has scored 314 goals for the Thrashers (AP photo/John Bazemore)

Now, I have long held the belief that the Thrashers have been looking to sign their Russian phenom at around the rate of about $10 million per season…a figure I come up with by adding Kovalchuk’s current salary with that of fellow countryman Slava Kozlov. I contend that the organization will opt not to re-sign Kozlov…who will be 38-years of age in May…and simply transfer that $3.667 mil or so from his ledger to Kovy’s.

If so…then the two parties are about a million per and a half per year apart.

The article also goes on to read that Don Waddell is now considering what he would seek in return for Kovalchuk, should a trade become necessary in the event this gap cannot be bridged.

However, that flies in the face of what Don Waddell indicated just last spring when discussing the matter with Chris Vivlamore who wrote…“General manager Don Waddell told the Journal-Constitution last week that, unequivocally, Kovalchuk will remain with the team as it attempts to re-sign one of the NHL’s elite players. There will be no trade deadline move — such as with Marian Hossa — if negotiations reach an impasse”.

Continuing on that thought, Waddell stated, “I think [the Thrashers and Kovalchuk] will both know where we are way before the season starts if it is going to happen…That doesn’t mean it can’t happen once the season starts. My mission is to keep Ilya Kovalchuk here, whether that happens in July or August or we have to go out and prove that we are a team that’s going to take that next step we are fine with that.”

So Thrasherville, the long and short of the situation, regardless if this rumor is based in fact or not, is… the clock still ticks. And just as Christmas will arrive whether we are ready or not, so too will the time arrive to finally get something done.

If Kovalchuk and Grossman are going to dig in and refuse to budge from their reported demand of 10-years $115 million to re-sign him, there are but three possible choice for Waddell and the Thrashers to consider.

In regards to Kovy's contract, the Thrashers should...

  • Pay Kovy what is being asked to keep Kovy here (51%, 81 Votes)
  • Trade Kovy if the price is too high (41%, 65 Votes)
  • Keep Kovy through the season no matter what (8%, 14 Votes)

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1.Pay Kovy the money! Whatever it is he’s asking for…cough it up and keep him here.

2. Trade him. Put together a package you think is worth parting ways with the 2001 first overall pick…the franchise player that the team has been and was supposed to be built around.

3. Do nothing. Much like the Florida Panthers did with Jay Bouwmeester last year, you keep him for the playoff run knowing he’s services now are crucial to succeeding… and then take your chances re-signing him sometime before July 1…something Florida, by the way, was unable to do with J-Bo.

Either way…this is not really the subject matter I wanted to be discussing at this point in time, to be honest. But we are doing so none-the-less…regardless of what Don Waddell told us last May.

And the 5,000-pound reindeer isn’t getting any smaller.

134 comments Add your comment

R. Stroz

December 16th, 2009
1:50 pm

FIRST, or GOLD

World Be Free

December 16th, 2009
1:54 pm

Stroz, you are agile!

World Be Free

December 16th, 2009
1:57 pm

Option 1 is really the only option. You will not get fair market value for a player not under contract for next season. Option 3 has not worked for FLA, though Leopold has played well. Draft picks are a crap shoot-Kovy is the real thing.

This is th ekinda money we expected to pay Kovy all along. I never expect a hometown discount.

Bob

December 16th, 2009
2:00 pm

“I don’t think we’ll be talking about this at Christmas time”.

Wait, something Don Waddell said didn’t come true? Next you’re gonna tell me there’s no Santa Claus, geez.

The usual suspects can throw all the doubt around that they want to (Russian rumor, Kovy’s new house, don’t worry it’ll get done, blah blah blah), but the plain fact is that this deal should have been done long, long ago, and the mere fact that he has not signed, is a huge red flag.

Bob

December 16th, 2009
2:06 pm

“This is the kinda money we expected to pay Kovy all along. I never expect a hometown discount.”

I don’t know about this much money though. Crosby and Ovechkin are both better players than Kovy and are paid much less than $11.5m per year. The Thrashers can’t pay Kovy $11.5m a year and be competitive, much less win a Cup, unless they go max cap every year, and that isn’t happening with the cap where it is today and attendance/revenue where it is for this club.

World Be Free

December 16th, 2009
2:18 pm

Bob-

Blue chip hockey players don’t grow on trees. You can compare him with anybody you want, but if you cannot replace Kovy, then losing him for little or nothing is not an option. We simply cannot afford to not sign him, unless you can propose what would be suitable compensation for trading him. Tough to give this or any player big money and maintain a Stanley Cup contending team. Pick your poison.

Bob

December 16th, 2009
2:23 pm

WBF, how could you justify paying him that much though? Is he the best player in hockey? Nope. If it was Gretzky, sure, do it.

The right move would have been to set a deadline of the beginning of the season to get the contract done. If they wouldn’t sign, then you trade him, they would have rec’d a lot more than they’ll get for a rental at the deadline. Now the best they can hope for is either caving in to the 10 year $11.5m (which they won’t do, and shouldn’t do) or trade him for the best package you can get (top 6 forward, prospect, and #1 pick is probably the best they could hope for) and then pray you can re-sign him come July 1st for a reasonable price.

I never thought he’d sign here to begin with and it doesn’t look like he wants to . .. when we did Brendan’s contest this past summer, my guess was July 2, 2010, with another club.

DanTheMan

December 16th, 2009
2:24 pm

Unless this long term deal we’re talking about has a non trade clause, then i’d say sign him and if things get too difficult financially you just put him on the market…. The Rangers, Leafs or Habs will always be listeners as they don’t really have problems with money

Alan R.

December 16th, 2009
2:28 pm

Bob, given the Russian media’s track record, you certainly cannot blame anyone for not believing the article you would like to believe is the gospel truth. This is almost akin to pointing to stories in the Weekly World News to prove an existence of aliens.

To me, mum is the word until this is resolved, one way or the other.

Russian

December 16th, 2009
2:29 pm

I will be very happy to keep Kovy for $100 mln for 10 years. Owners will not pay big money every season to keep team alive. I took option 3 – keep him and play him until end of season IF we are going to PO. Everybody knows that closer to March 3 teams will be Buyers and Sellers. If we are still in PO spot before March 3 that means keep Kovy and trade some players to build more successful team to run PO. If we will sellers trade Kovy to another team. I hope it will be worked. Only one thing I do not like much that Kovy did not play his best game lately.

Bob

December 16th, 2009
2:29 pm

Wasn’t this reason #297 we talked about last year of why we needed a new GM (so Waddell wasn’t in charge of screwing up the Kovy contract)?

Baldheaded Thrasher

December 16th, 2009
2:31 pm

Hoping the deal would have been done by now but I don’t think it will work for Kovy in ATL. The attendance has been lousy with the team winning and I can’t see the Spirit spending what it would take to keep Kovy here.

The weeknight attendance is pathetic and I’m sick of seeing the visting sweaters out number the hometown fans. Winning kept the Penguins and Capitals from moving, but it might not work in ATL. The sheep that stayed away will just cause the shepherd to look for another field.

chc4

December 16th, 2009
2:35 pm

Kovy will not be here next season. And I guarantee he’ll take less than a max deal to sign a long term deal in a better market. The Thrashers would have a deal done w/ him by now if it were going to happen at all.

The notion that Ilya leaving will be the beginning of the end to hockey in Atlanta is wrong. No one goes to the games WITH Ilya skating circles around the rest of the league. Quite frankly, I don’t blame him for not wanting to be here. This is an exciting team yet Philips is usually no more than half full.

Smoothie

December 16th, 2009
2:35 pm

Damn it Bill! I love ya man, but I hate being the “de facto” ranallo on your longer blogs. Where the hell is our lovable curmudgeon from Austria anyway? If you’re reading this ranallo, happiest of holidays to you and your family during this festive season.

Back to the 800 pound elephant in the corner of the lockerroom:

The fact that the Kovy deal is not done (or may not get done before the end of the year) is a big problem. The bigger problem is what do you do with him now that we are in a position to challenge for a playoff spot?

It is crucial that we bank mad points NOW in the next ten games (9 of which are against Eastern Conf foes) to get closer to 10 games over .500. If this team goes 6-3-1 over the next 10, that puts our record at 23-14-4 for 50 points thru 41 games or a pace for 100 points. More importantly, it gives us a bit of a cushion going into January.

At that point, the leverage swings to Waddudley I believe. And the reason why might just be Kari Lehtonen (gasp!!). Should Kari manage to get himself ready to play by late Jan or early Feb, the Thrashers will then have more trade leverage at the deadline. Teams like NYR, Mtl and even Tor may be desperate for goalie depth if they are on the playoff bubble. Tantalize them with Lehtonen, after showcasing him before the Olympics, and tell them they can have Kovy too. But they’ll have to give us a few good players in return.

If talks break-down and the Kovy situation becomes desperate, then Lehtonen might just be the key to a blockbuster type deal that would not only get us value in return, but also help us make a serious push into the playoffs during March & April, when we play 14 of our last 22 games at the Bulb.

A team like the Rangers, who have already spent some insane loot in FA, may be willing to trade for Lehtonen since their back-up goalie situation is in shambles AND Kovalchuk because he’s a goal-scoring bad-ass. Even if we can’t get Marian Gaborik in return, we could probably wrest away one of their RFA youngsters like Dubinsky or Callahan, one of whom they may not be able to afford if they become $3-4 M men.

Hey Glen Sather, how about this deal?

Rangers get: Kovy, Lehts, Todd White and Slater

Thrashers get: Dubinsky or Callahan, Gilroy or Boyle and a first round pick in 2010

Bob

December 16th, 2009
2:38 pm

“The attendance has been lousy with the team winning and I can’t see the Spirit spending what it would take to keep Kovy here.”

Good point. And reason #298 why Waddell should have been gone long ago, he killed the fan base of this club with his mismanagement.

hip czech

December 16th, 2009
2:44 pm

I agree with Bob that Kovy is not quite in the class of Crosby and Ovechkin. I love Kovy, great guy, good sense of humor, but a pretty one dimensional player.

Don’t get me wrong, I WANT us to re-sign him, but IMHO he doesn’t deserve to be the top paid player in the game. If that’s what he wants, my estimation of him goes down a bit. Is he one of the top 10 players in the league? No doubt. Is he the best player? No.

I still think Hossa is the better complete player

Personality-wise I’d take Kovy over Hossa any day, but until Kovy learns to play both ways he is just a notch under the Crosbys, Ovechkins, Hossas, of the league.

IF it becomes apparent he isn’t going to sign for anything less than 11.5 mil per then let’s hope like heck Waddell (and Dudley) get the right players back in a trade. We can’t just let him walk.

Bob

December 16th, 2009
2:44 pm

“This is almost akin to pointing to stories in the Weekly World News to prove an existence of aliens.”

Screw WWN. ET has been seen bareback riding a 5000lb reindeer while being chased by a 800lb gorilla in the lower bowl of Phillips arena, we got a situation here, cousin!

World Be Free

December 16th, 2009
2:56 pm

Bob, what you propsed concerning getting a contract before the season is what I advocated for all summer. Dollars or not, we needed a deal done before the season started. The money really doesn’t matter at this point, the distraction to me is the bigger issue. We don’t know what the numbers are. The number you toss up are worst case; Kovy wants to win and he knows that no team will win if he makes up 20-25% of the salary. I can speculate on the money, but we know his value to the Atlanta Thrashers.

I think he’s worth big money, not because of how good he is compared to other players, but what he means to the team. He is the centerpiece of all team advertising. The team is building it’s case around him.

FYI to all – attendance is down in most cities, it’s the worst economy in my lifetime. Plenty of empty seats in Hockeytown last night and most of this season.

Smoothie

December 16th, 2009
2:59 pm

Wait a minute! Elephants weigh way more than 800 lbs! Make it 8 ton elephant parked next to the zamboni!

Indeed, Kovy should not get anymore than $10 M in any type of long-term deal. I could see giving him $10 M / year for 3-4 years, but that’s it.

Until he decides (because he’s certainly physically capable) to be a well-rounded, fully responsible, 2-way player, I’m not sure he’s even worth $9 M / year. At some point, DWad has to draw the line because such a contract will cripple the franchise. We can’t even sell out a Saturday night in a year we’re in the playoff hunt. How the hell can ASG keep drawing on their own capital before they say “screw it” and sell the team at the end of the lease?

R. Stroz

December 16th, 2009
3:04 pm

As I have previously stated, I’m all for re-signing Kovy, however, if Kovy wants to be surrounded by horses instead of mules, Kovy must allow some wiggle room below the maximum contract amount.

If Kovy wants the maximum yearly contract amount, he will doom himself to a mid-level team for the rest of his career. If Kovy wants to win, he needs to come off the maximum yearly contract amount in order to allow room for other skilled players to sign.

Put another way, there aren’t too many players with the character and talent of a Rich Peverley in the NHL. Kovy can’t expect all the other players on the team to accept a Rich Peverley style contract while he eats up a chunk of salary cap money.

So, does Kovy want to win or does he want to become Yashin part two?

What do I think is reasonable and workable? 10 years at 9 million.

DowntownATL

December 16th, 2009
3:13 pm

Buccigross is playing Thrashers-Bruins matchmaker.

Blake Wheeler, Tuuka Rask, 1st Round pick
http://bit.ly/6COpJJ

DanTheMan

December 16th, 2009
3:16 pm

@DowntownATL: I don’t know if it makes much sense. We’re trying to get rid of a goalie and we would get another one in that deal?

Nate

December 16th, 2009
3:23 pm

Rawhide – That contract estimate by the Russian paper is accurate. This is the only inside source I have for anything, but my buddy Nathan gave me that contract length and per season salary way back in September. He’s just an elevator contractor, but he spoke to his boss who’s good friends with the Russian agent. That’s the figure that was relayed to him and then me. I said then and I say now…Pay him the money. But I also told Nathan there’s pretty much no way ownership coughs up that kind of money for a hockey player. Especially for a 1-way forward. We’ll see…

The trade proposal from Buccigross is realistic, but far below fair market value imo.

Gib Traf

December 16th, 2009
3:28 pm

…..but Dan, assuming Moose is not re-signed (due to his age) and the thought that they need to cut ties with Lehtonen (they could still trade him for a decent pick), the Thrashers would not be bad off with a Rask/Pavelec tandem.

Smoothie

December 16th, 2009
3:28 pm

I love Blake Wheeler, but they would have to take Pavs or Lehts off our hands too to make room for Rask. Throw in a young center prospect and that deal with Boston might make sense if talks break down altogether.

DanTheMan

December 16th, 2009
3:31 pm

@Gib Traf: Yes no doubt. But the trend this year has been that we have a goalie surplus and yet people are still throwing goalies in rumored deals. I just find it funny

Bob

December 16th, 2009
3:32 pm

“I think the hockey environment in Boston would raise his physical play, which has been abysmal this season and smells like a guy in the last season of his contract not wanting to get hurt. But I have always liked Kovalchuk and believe he has a large reservoir of passion that would bubble to the surface in a market like Boston.”

Looks like Buccigross has also been watching Kovy’s play and seeing the alien riding the reindeer chasing the gorilla . . .

Matt

December 16th, 2009
3:37 pm

Sorry, but if Kovy does not resign it is the death knell for hockey in Atlanta. Ask a casual fan about the team and just about the only player recognized is Kovy. If you lose your most recognizable player, that sends the message to the casual fan (who is crucial to develop in the hopes of increasing attendance) that the ASG doesn’t give a hoot about hockey and therefore, why should fans invest their money and effort into such a team?

Smoothie

December 16th, 2009
3:38 pm

Bucci makes some valid points, but he is deluding himself if he thinks Kovy’s agent will settle for $7 M / year. $8 M maybe. Since they are so strapped under the cap, perhaps we can pry Krejci from them.

But I think I would be able to live with that deal since it would involve the Toronto first rounder which should be a pretty good pick.

Wheeler and Kane / Pevs & Little / Antro & Max

If you can’t win with that stable of horses, then you’re doing something wrong in my opinion.

Scotty

December 16th, 2009
3:47 pm

Not re-signing Kovalchuk would make about as much sense as not starting Hedberg in the goal tonight in Florida. And I think any rational, logical, right-minded individual would clearly see Moose should start tonight and not Pavelec.

R. Stroz

December 16th, 2009
3:52 pm

Smoothie – Without Kovy on the team, I believe Max will become useless. Those two are a package deal.

Furmanisanidiot

December 16th, 2009
3:53 pm

You really cannot pay him over or more than 8 or Cindy, if he’s holding out for that money he’s doing it knowing the Thrashers won’t pay it and it doesn’t make him look like the bad guy when he’s traded. This team can make the playoff’s without him, may not go far but they can make the playoffs. Then to get the fans(and mainly the season ticket holders) back you FINALLY FIRE WADDELL from the GM position. I hate to see Kovy leave and hope he signs a contract for 10 or under with us, if you pay him more it hurts your chances of buidling a team around him in future.

Bob

December 16th, 2009
3:55 pm

“But I think I would be able to live with that deal since it would involve the Toronto first rounder which should be a pretty good pick”

Don’t fall too much in love with that pick, Toronto is only 2 pts out of playoff with a game in hand. That club has been on fire and marching up the ranks. Look at the East standings, it’s pretty wild. Carolina is the only club that’s not within 2 pts of a playoff spot.

j nes

December 16th, 2009
3:57 pm

R Stroz says, “If Kovy wants the maximum yearly contract amount, he will doom himself to a mid-level team for the rest of his career.”

Kovalchuck knows this and so does his agent. I honestly dont think Kovy wants to spend the next ten years in atlanta, especially with an organization that will not be able to surround him with good players–which is what will happen if they pay him 11.5 a year. His demand for the max over 10 years (if that is true) is simply a way for him to get out of Atlanta without pulling a Hossa. Management will look like the bad guys since they will not pay. I say call his bluff. Pay him the max until he decides he wants to actually win–then restructure his contract.

Putting On The Foil

December 16th, 2009
4:05 pm

Damn!. I was just hoping I would get a coupon for a free turkey this Christmas.

The Joker

December 16th, 2009
4:11 pm

What do you call an unsigned Kovalchuk?

FREEBIRD

Toby

December 16th, 2009
4:15 pm

No more than 9. If not….don’t let it smack ya on your frozen arse on your way out after we trade you.

Bob

December 16th, 2009
4:16 pm

“His demand for the max over 10 years (if that is true) is simply a way for him to get out of Atlanta without pulling a Hossa.”

That’s the way it’s looking. Surely Waddell tried to get the deal done many times, and by just sticking to a 10year $11.5m demand, then all they’re trying to do is get out of town gracefully.

The market price for Kovy isn’t too hard to figure out. $9.5m per year 10 year deal, structured at $9m per year for the 1st 5 years and $10m per year for the last 5 years of the deal. Someone will give him that deal. If Waddell has offered that deal, and it’s been turned down, then it’s time to trade him. If he hasn’t offered that deal, put it on Grossman’s fax machine and tell him offer is good till Jan. 15th, if it isn’t signed by that date, then open up the bidding on Kovy and move him.

I just looked at the Cap hit for us this year and including Kane’s and Bogosian’s bonus money, which both will surely hit, we’re at $53m cap hit. And they signed Antroprov, brought in Kubina, and signed Max. And gave Kovy the C. If that doesn’t make Kovy happy, then he was just blowing smoke up their rear the whole time and he needs to go. At the end of the day, he is a one dimensional player who will not play D which will kill a team in the playoffs. Look at Crosby, Malkin, and Ovechkin in last year’s players, all of those guys busted nut backchecking and selling out on every play. Those are Kovy’s peers, and they are all better players than him, no way Kovy will be paid more than them (although none of them went to a bidding war on the open market). The club will survive without Kovy, but they have to replace him and they won’t trade him in the East. He will be traded out West, LA is probably the club to deal with, who do they have that’s a young goal scoring LW?

Smoothie

December 16th, 2009
4:26 pm

Fool’s gold Bob, Toronto is doing exactly what we did last year in November with our brief surge before tanking. Their defense is miserable and eventually, that 3.5 GA average will do them in. Kessel’s heroics notwithstanding.

Stroz – Max seems like an honorable fella and doubt he would turn down an extension to the only team that wanted him during the summer. I feel as though he still has something to prove and about half of his dramatic goals have come without the help of Kovalchuk, if that is what you are inferring. He’s had pretty good chemistry with Antro and Kane when Kaner is given the chance to play on a top 2 line.

To me, Kubina is actually becoming more valuable at this juncture than Kovy because stopping the other team wins game, not flashy one-timers from the point on the PP.

Yeah, Kovy’s the face of the franchise, and we’d all hate to lose him. But snipers don’t win championships alone. Bossy had Trottier, Potvin and Smith. Kurri had some guy named Gretzky. Jagr and Lemieux; Selanne had Getzlaf and Perry. Kovy has Peverley, Antro and hopefully a stud in Kane if he decides to stay.

Where else can Kovy go and not be held accountable by the fans (for the most part) or the media? The media here in ATL will never challenge Kovy face to face as opposed to Montreal, NY or Toronto where he would get killed for his loafing on defense. He can own more property living in a cheaper market like ATL. Atlanta’s a better town to raise a family, which is growing like weeds in a hot summer. He’ll still get his major “coin” from the ASG and should they keep winning, eventually the franchise will make money.

Hell, if he would just sign a 5-year deal worth $45 M, he would still have options at the back end of that deal if it didn’t work out. He could demand a trade in 2-3 years if Kane, Little, Pevs and Bogo aren’t enough to make this a perennial winner. He might even get his big fat raise to $10 M + if this team wins consistently, starts selling out frequently and the ASG starts making money. Plus, the economy might actually turn around and the Cap could go back up. You never know, but I wouldn’t bet on the future of the KHL.

So in closing, do the honorable thing and either sign the deal Kovy or let us off the hook by mid-January. Don’t leave the ASG twisting in the wind like Hossa did. Give this town a chance to have a great hockey team. Please don’t destroy it with greed or selfishness. That’s all I ask for at this point.

Mooseberg

December 16th, 2009
4:40 pm

(previously Furmanisanidiot)

Amen, Smoothie

R. Stroz

December 16th, 2009
4:41 pm

Someone better tell Grossman his 11.5 million 10 year trial balloon has lead in it.

Greed, especially at Christmas, is not good and is easily perceived as such.

Smoothie

December 16th, 2009
4:53 pm

Mooooooseberg!!! I like it! Johan has been as tough to penetrate as an iceberg this season. Let’s hope it continues down in Sunrise tonight!

R. Stroz

December 16th, 2009
4:57 pm

So, how many of you think Kovy is overplaying his hand with a 11.5 million for 10 year request?

KovyRules

December 16th, 2009
5:02 pm

And I chose my screen name based on his play on the ice, not off the ice. Alas…

While I’d hate to see him go (and have to change aliases), 10m is a very generous maximum. Another option – with 100m, ASG could surely perfect cloning. I’d take 8 Peverlys over 1 Kovy any day…

Bob

December 16th, 2009
5:10 pm

“So, how many of you think Kovy is overplaying his hand with a 11.5 million for 10 year request?”

Yes it is overplaying unless it’s their way of getting him out of town gracefully

Putting On The Foil

December 16th, 2009
5:30 pm

Right on Smoothie. My sentiments, exactly, and I didn’t have to type all that.

R. Stroz

December 16th, 2009
5:36 pm

Smoothie – I nominate your 4:26 post for the Blogging Hall of Fame.

Smoothie

December 16th, 2009
5:37 pm

POTF, you’re very welcome!

LAC

December 16th, 2009
5:44 pm

I agree with BOB… #17 is NOT worth that type money, while he can score like crazy, he floats many nights and is as soft as a marshmellow.

Look at Ovekin, hell the guy flys all over the ice, he hit and hits and hits, Does #17 do that NO !

I feel we should not fall to their contract demands, He should be traded
for a TON, 3-4 GOOD young players, The NYR senerio is NOT a good one,
get at least TWO Number #1 picks as well, Hold Up the other team, Make them PAY.

If we get 4-5 players, we can start to put the puzzel back togather again, however it will show that Atlanta is not a serious contender, and star players will stay away…

The “other” sliver lining is could this cost waddell his job FINALLY ?
Like others have pointed out many times, he has mismanaged this team from year one. What gets me the most is his constant LYING.
waddell is a pathological liar, he does not know how to be honest with we the FANS, maybe these IDIOT or STUPID or DUMB AS HELL owners, will get their heads out of their butts and FIRE the BUM once and for all !

But what I am afraid of is that this MESS is going to kill what the team has accomplished so far and we will come apart at the seams !

jeff

December 16th, 2009
5:45 pm

Hey guys,

I am a bit disappointed in Kovy for asking such a salary. Assuming he really wants to win in this city, one would think that he would accept a lower salary in the 8mil/year (still extremely well paid)so that his team has more money to surround him with a quality cast.

I always thought that if we lose Kovy, we lose that team in ATL. I start to think that we might have to look elsewhere…I would take 2-3 solid players for 10mil instead of only one…