Gather around the coffee pot and discuss latest Thrashers loss

As Rawhide’s fellow bloggers awake after another late night of Thrashers hockey and make their way into the on-line chat room, the blog host is busy manning the coffee pots in the cyber-coffee café. Its cold outside this morning, but the coffee here is good and hot

Ah, good morning there sleepy-heads…hop up on the stool and I’ll have your coffee right up for ya. How do ya take it? Cream?…Sugar?…Heck, maybe given the way the Thrashers luck has turned, a bit of whiskey mixed in is what’s called for? I mean, for medicinal purposes, of course.

Me? I just take mine black.

Ya know…picking the coffee pot up off the burners and returning to the counter to fill your cups… staying up late to watch a hometown team play on the west coast reminds me of the early 1990’s when the Braves were beginning that great run of theirs. Being in the Western Divison of the NL those days, they played many games out in L.A., San Diego and San Francisco. There would be entire weeks when sports fans would stay up past midnight to watch the games…then be up at the crack of dawn to get to work.

We called what Atlanta suffered from during those times B.F.S., (Braves Fatigue Syndrome).

So, maybe we’ve all got a small touch of T.F.S. … though I don’t suspect we’ll be able to call in sick from work due to that.

The piping hot morning nectar begins to pour from pot to cup after cup…filling the air with its rich, robust aroma…mmmmm…

Another late night in Thrasherville…made that much longer given the 4-2 loss in Vancouver, the Thrashers third in a row on the road. Heading out on this 4-game roadie, the Thrashers had only lost two regulation games away from Philips Arena all year. First it was the 5-2 smack down in Toronto…followed by Wednesday night’s 3-1 thumping in Cal-Gary…now this.

Even with the 2-1 shootout win in Florida to start the roadie, Atlanta was outscored 6 to 13 on this trip, not counting the “gimmick goal” provided for coming out on top in the individual skills competition that decided the game last Saturday in Sunrise.

For those of you who chose not to stay up and watch the latest defeat…here’s a brief recap.

World Be Free and Spud Web enter with the Krispy Kreme donuts

Alright! Breakfast is here too. Just bring those on over to the counter boys!

Anyway…the recap. Daniel Sedin scored the Canucks’ first three goals. Funny thing though…the second one, which came shortly before the first intermission, was originally credited to his brother Henrik. Just after the second period began, the scoring change was announced. But just 1:39 after the puck dropped to start the period, Daniel’s centering pass deflected off Nik Antropov’s stick past Ondrej Pavelec. He thought it was only his second tally of the night and had to be told of his hat trick while sitting on the bench. It took a few minutes for the hats to find their way onto the ice as the fans were still figuring things out as well.

Daniel Sudin's second goal of the game was originally awarded to his brother Henrik (AP Photo/The Canadian Press, Darryl Dyck)

Daniel Sudin's second goal of the game was originally awarded to his brother Henrik (AP Photo/The Canadian Press, Darryl Dyck)

Anywhoooo…as for the goals scored by the Thrashers… Nik Antropov notched his third of the season. It came while the Canucks’ Rick Rypien was in time out for roughing. Rypien would later get into a pretty good scrap with Boris Valabik. Colby Armstrong also scored for Atlanta…his second in as many games. Sure would be nice if this is a sign of good things to come for Army.

Pavelec got the start between the pipes tonight and allowed four goals on 38 shots. His record is now 8-8-3 with a 3.09 GAA and .913 SV%. Since the 2-0 shutout in Detroit on Thanksgiving Eve, Opie is 1-3 and has allowed 16 goals with a .881 SV%.

Evander Kane was making a sort of homecoming Thursday, returning to the city that he played in for three seasons while in the WHL. Family members and former teammates were in attendance to see his first game played in Vancouver at the NHL level. Kane finished the night a -1 with no point and three shots on goal.

Sara now enters with a basket full of bran muffins

Good…maybe these will help the Thrashers win more…ahem…regularly.

The Thrashers will return home for a Saturday night game with Montreal…so they won’t have a lot of time to rest and lick their wounds from the 1 for 4 road trip. The Canadiens are one point behind us in the Eastern Conference standings…though they’ve played a couple more games than Atlanta has.

The boys in blue won’t be home long, though, before heading out to Hartsfield/Jackson again. They have a date Monday up in New York against the Rangers and then they’ll high-tail in back to south Florida to play the Panthers again on Wednesday. Dallas will be in Thrasherville the very next day after that. So the games are starting to train one behind the other all of a sudden.

In fact, the team will not see a period in which they have more than two days between games until the second week of February.

But long before then, they’ve got to find a way to again get like this coffee…hot. Right now, they’re as cold as this morning’s air…or the look I’ll get from the Divine Mrs. R if I fail to save any of this fine brew for her.

Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr…Now that’s cold!

141 comments Add your comment

TheFan79

December 11th, 2009
6:42 am

I guess i was correct the other day when i said let the 3-4 game losing streak begin.

Matt

December 11th, 2009
7:19 am

Secundo. What a disappointing and dreary trip. Bill, I believe I’ll have a little nip with my coffee today and pass me a Krispy Kreme as well. Where, or where, has our scoring touch gone?

Putting On The Foil

December 11th, 2009
7:31 am

While Colby scoring is good, Colby leading the scoring charge the last couple of games is not what I want to hear. Antropov’s goal was the kind I’ve been wanting to see from him all year. Teams have been really good clogging the lanes against the Thrash going all the way back to the Detroit game. The breakouts are just not there and instead of setting up, the guys are trying to make something out of nothing. My two cents. Probably ain’t worth one cent though.

World Be Free

December 11th, 2009
8:04 am

Honored to be mentioned in your article-how did you know I am a big donut fan! Kristies, Dunkin and most of all, Tim Horton’s Donuts!

Let’s get the boys home and prepared for Saturday night’s game against Les Habs. Time to test leadership and resolve in the boys.

Tom

December 11th, 2009
8:20 am

Just watched the 3rd period, watched the first 2 last night but could not hold up as I had bus stop duty this morning.

The effort was much better last night. A little more grit and fire, Ilya played defense much better and it showed. A couple of posts and Kane putting in the rebound and it could have been a much different result.

Pavs is still showing the tendency to give up goals in bunches. That is a concern, especially if we head to the playoffs. He needs to learn to make the big save, quickly.

Anyone think that Valobecks fight in the 3rd period was him fighting for his job? I think it is dawning on him that he is not an NHL caliber player. He has the size and speed but he has no idea of where the game is on the ice. He is missing that 6th sense that the good players have. It explains why he seems never to be in position. Lets see who is desperate for a big D-man and trade him. That is if Waddell has the balls to trade a young defenseman again. He may be too scared to do so after the Coburn fiasco.

We have the skills to right the ship, but now we need the heart to do so.

J.B.

December 11th, 2009
8:22 am

My feeling is they got what I consider the toughest road trip of the season over with (as far as travel goes), the flu has likely made it through the locker room by now and is likely over with as well, and after a ridiculously awful stretch of games, we still have a playoff spot (albeit dangerously low to a spot out of contention, but a playoff spot none the less).

So I say to the boys, welcome home to Atlanta, Thrashers. Rest up, beat the hell out of Montreal tomorrow night on home ice and begin a nice long win streak. We’re looking forward to seeing y’all tomorrow night and making some deafening noise for you. (If memory serves, we usually play very well versus the Canadiens right before christmas-time…)

That said, games the rest of the month are critical to keeping a playoff spot, especially with two each versus NJD & BOS; must wins for sure.

Not even half-way through the season. Still no reason to panic and/or jump ship in my opinion.

If anyone from the coaching staff reads this:

kovy – antro – max
kozzy – pevs – little
kane – reasoner – army
boults – slater – thorbs

bogo – tobi
kubes – hainsey
salmela – valabik

pavs (top gun mentality again… keep sending him up! won’t learn how to be a #1 starter on the bench after a poor showing)

One more thing… PLEASE trade Todd White. I realize players get into slumps but I think we’re WAAAAAAAAY past that point with him. Whatever you can get for him right now…seriously… anything. I just don’t understand why he doesn’t get scratched…ever.

See y’all tomorrow night!!! Fill the Bulb!!!!!!!!

Hockey Biltong

December 11th, 2009
8:27 am

First thing Le Trash have to work on is passing, and in particular, passing out of their own end.Too many hail marys and too many passes behind or just out of reach. We see a very nervous team trying to extricate the puck, making many mistakes.
This has to stop. Once good passing resumes, our offence will see an improvement as well.

J.B.

December 11th, 2009
8:29 am

Rawhide,

Could you please check for a posting from me submitted a few minutes ago and rescue if applicable? I believe it has gone down the rabbit hole into blogatory hell. thank you.

~JB

Hockey Biltong

December 11th, 2009
8:29 am

Bill,
Make my coffee with bourbon and two aspirin.

Hockey Biltong

December 11th, 2009
8:38 am

BTW,
Kane put the puck in Luongos’ underpants, and Luongo slid in the goal…sigh….

Rawhide

December 11th, 2009
8:49 am

I guess i was correct the other day when i said let the 3-4 game losing streak begin.

The Fan79 – Uh-huh…could you please now predict a 5 or 6 game win streak???

What a disappointing and dreary trip. Bill, I believe I’ll have a little nip with my coffee today and pass me a Krispy Kreme as well. Where, or where, has our scoring touch gone?

MattServing up spiked coffee and donut…Wish I knew the answer to that. But with the guns we have, I don’t think this will be a prolonged slump. We ran into a couple of hot teams in Toronto and Cal-Gary. Vancouver was just one of those things….tired I guess.

Make my coffee with bourbon and two aspirin.

Hockey Biltong – Comin’ right up!

Honored to be mentioned in your article-how did you know I am a big donut fan! Kristies, Dunkin and most of all, Tim Horton’s Donuts!

WBF - All donuts are welcome! Tim Horton’s escpecially if you’re willing to make the trip.

J.B. – I just freed your 8:22 am post. Trixie is sleeping as I gave her the morning off.

As for your line suggestions of…

kovy – antro – max
kozzy – pevs – little
kane – reasoner – army
boults – slater – thorbs

bogo – tobi
kubes – hainsey
salmela – valabik

I agree with the front lines with the exception of that I’d switch Kane ond Kozlov.. I’d play Schubert instead of Boris though.

B. Thenet

December 11th, 2009
8:51 am

Well fortunately we get the Rags and Panthers at a good time next week.

It was certainly a very tough stretch. 3 games in 4 nights in three different time zones. The continued lazy, sloppy play without any kind of response from the coaching staff is worrying.

We needed some guys on the roster to step up on this road trip to make is successful, Army’s audition for the three teams he probably wants to sign with this summer doesn’t exactly count in my book.

J.B.

December 11th, 2009
8:54 am

thanks for releasing my gem of the morning rawhide.

for me schubert & valabik are both about the same. I really am not impressed with either one, so i guess they’re pretty interchangeable in my mind. I guess schubert is the better D-man but when he’s screwed up this season, BOY has he screwed up big-time!

Not Blind

December 11th, 2009
9:15 am

Kotton Kandy, Antropov and Afinegenov collective minus 6 for the night. A line that should bring fear in the other team’s players is actually who they want to have their shifts against. If KK does an open ice hit on Van’s blueline then the breakout pass doesn’t happen and the play is broken up. Instead he does his normal circle and the Canuck makes a nice pass.

Alan R.

December 11th, 2009
9:19 am

The piping hot morning nectar begins to pour from pot to cup after cup…filling the air with its rich, robust aroma…mmmmm…

*pulls out a flask, and pours some of “the contents” into his cup to make it …ah, more enjoyable*

I’m glad I didn’t stay up to watch this. Lost the fights and the game. Not like I could have stayed up, though. This cold… or whatever the hell it is… is kicking my arse.

Bob

December 11th, 2009
9:33 am

We got outshot again. Guys, we really, really lucked out in many early season games pulling wins out although we got outplayed. Think about how many late game comebacks and goals we had.

Those odds always swing back the other way and that’s what is happening. They have to tighten up defensively.

To get the 2nd line going, you have to put Peverley on the 2nd line, the lines posted above are exactly what Coach needs to do, starting tomorrow night:

kovy – antro – max
kozzy – pevs – little
kane – reasoner – army
boults – slater – thorbs

Putting On The Foil

December 11th, 2009
9:38 am

Biltong. Got the Balvenie 21 yr. Portwood. Haven’t opened it yet. Probably break this one out around Christmas.

five_hole

December 11th, 2009
9:41 am

I’m an Earl Grey kind of guy myself, but could someone pass me a Krispy Kreme? Aaahhh. Still warm.

Still couldn’t stay up for the 3rd period. Then again, I’m getting ready to eat dinner with the 4PM crowd. The Thrashers had no jump in the 1st period, or the beginning of the 2nd. It seemed like they finally found some game midway into the 2nd. Was Kane robbed? If the referee lost sight of the puck in Luongo’s equipment, then maybe he should have forced him to lay there while the ref searched for the puck.

Again, not a fan of Valabik or Schubert, but for the record, Valabik played 17:36 and +/- was a 0; Schubert played 19:45 and +/- was also 0. I agree that Boris needs to work on the little things in his game, like passing, skating, shooting and playing defense; but when the rest of the team was negative; he’s going to be playing Saturday night. On the other hand, Hainsey at 17:45 and a -2, ought to sit one out.

In the team’s defense, as someone who flies a lot; this road trip went from Miami to Toronto to Calgary to Edmunton in 5 days. And now they still have to fly home for Montreal Saturday. You might not think just sitting on a plane for 4-5 hours would wear you out, but believe me, it catches up with you. Whomever scheduled this was no fan of Le Thrash.

BTW; FYI; the wife & I will be in 122 for the Canadiens. In case anyone wants to say Hi.

J.B.

December 11th, 2009
9:47 am

random question: I need to know what Season Kozzy was first made an alternate captain. Anyone remember?

WM

December 11th, 2009
9:50 am

You know the past several seasons when the Thrashers played road games, I’d wake up expecting to hear a loss. That all changed this year with the team winning on the road and I’ve enjoyed awaking to hear that the Birds have won. The past week I’ve been real disapointed with this team. From what I read in recaps (I don’t have cable and 680 is spotty at best OTP), it sounded like we’ve played a solid first period in all three games and then the wheels came off. OP and Moose allowed 12 goals in three games…awful by anyone’s definition…and we’ve only scored 5 goals in 3 games. Grant it we played against two top tier goalies(Luango & Kiprusoff) but still. Something is missing. I don’t know if its effort, JA’s insistance on changing lines everynight, Kovy contract talks ‘09, or what, but something is certainly missing from a month ago. I mean its like someone from the Canadian press told them to look at the logo on the jersey and to stop playing like a playoff team. I’m not saying the season is over or that we won’t make the playoffs, but we need to fix whatever is broke and do it now.

Putting On The Foil

December 11th, 2009
9:57 am

five_hole. Had to pass on the 600 buck price tag on the McCallans 25. Maybe I’ll win the lotto this week.

Alan R.

December 11th, 2009
9:59 am

I’m interested in what Anderson plans to do about this streak of losses. We’ve lost four of our last five, and it could be a five game losing streak, had we not squeezed one out in Florida.

I’m certainly not in panic mode – yet – but changes need to be made.

Putting On The Foil

December 11th, 2009
9:59 am

Can someone pass me a Krispy Kreme dammit?

LAC

December 11th, 2009
10:03 am

Sorry road trip, No Heart, No Drive, NO desire to WIN, just going through the motions, the ENTIRE team.

Pavs looks like a AHL call up goalie for sure, way too many SOFT goals,
Our defense, Where is it ? Our once vaunted offense has disappeared,
and there is NO leadership from the Capitan at ALL.

Remember Washington a couple years ago, they were AWFUL, new coach and bring in solid young players they are now one of the top teams.

They have a Russian that hits, hustles, scores, gets in your face,
ours is too busy now trying to save his pretty face for those upcoming commericals he will be doing in NY or LA… When he leaves.

Time for MAJOR TRADES, this collections of players, another waddell FAILURE, is not going to make the playoffs, and I agree with everyone else get rid of todd white, hell a seventh round pick would be ok…
That is just for starters… Where has Kane gone ? What about Zach B. ?
Slava still playing when he wants and the coaching staff seems to not care either.

This team is a mess, these losses in Canada are an embarassment
and only fuel more chants for “Leave Atlanta”, which if this play continued any longer will be for real in two years for sure…

Barry

December 11th, 2009
10:08 am

One thing that stood out to me is no real net presence. Nobody to knock in rebounds and nobody to really clear rebounds Pavelec gives up. The forwards are being WAY too lazy in the defensive zone and that laziness is being led by our captain Kovy who just stands around and looks like a pylon. This team also has seemed to lost the fire and confidence I remember seeing a week or two ago. They seem to be doubting themselves out there and not working hard enough. The powerplay has gotten too predictable with everyone standing around on the perimeter and against the walls. Players need to start moving around and actually trying to get closer to the net if they want to have more chances to score. I liked seeing Kane and Little on the same line. I honestly would like to see a Kovy-Antro-Max, Kane-Peverley-Little, Kozlov-White-Armstrong, Boulton-Reasoner-Thorburn lineup.

Spud Webb

December 11th, 2009
10:08 am

Bill, I am also honored to be mentioned in the blog!!! Lemon filled for me!!!
Name of the day, “putting on the foil”. ahhahaha, classic!!!
Down to business…the first line is KILLING us with ZERO responsibility, ZERO. -2 for the game and thats just because of Niks goal. This is unacceptable and Coach needs to address this line ASAP. Forget about signing max long term, this is why nobody signed him before us. He will string together some good games, but he and kovy together is bad news. That line is flat out a liability at this point and that my friends is embarrassing (at least to me).
Good points…this team has some guts which I hadn’t seen in previous years. Thorny and Boris both getting into it, took the short end in both, but the point is there. We won’t be pushed around. Also nice to see we get a little frustrated. Now let’s do something about it. Get back east, go up and beat the men in blue & let’s get this thing going.
Opie needs a better game, but again people are skating wherever they want on us, in front of the net, around the net, I mean we have our fingers up our &sses half the time. We need D commitment from EVERYONE on that team.
I swear to god, minus the sun, I woke up in Buffalo again this morning. GEEEZ it’s cold.

Spud Webb

December 11th, 2009
10:10 am

Barry, you’re spot on. Zero net presence. Hey glovesave where are you? I’m interested to hear your thoughts on opie as of late. You out there? you ok??

Hotrod

December 11th, 2009
10:22 am

Another Canadian swing bushwackin. I hope Montreal does not finish it here on Sat.

We got a good start this year, I hate to see it going away before our eyes.

The opposing teams seems to be making better opportunities for themselves in front of the goal, and we seem to be spending time passing it around the boards only to turn it over or hope for a lane for a slapshot.

I lost count of how many breakaways the Nucs got last night. Those are usually produced by an errant pass or sloppy stick handling. Pavs made some great saves.

I think this is Kozzy’s 3 rd year with the A.

Barring any major injuries, the pieces are here for a playoff run.
These guys are a good bunch, Only takes a couple wins to get the wind back.

HonkyTonkHero

December 11th, 2009
10:29 am

A co-worker of mine is good friends with Larry Simmons and occasionaly has dinner with him. Well, he has a dinner with him coming up and he asked me to give him a team briefing so that he could be up to date (he doesnt follow hockey…unfortunate). I told him to please ask Mr.Simmons to trade Todd White…this is the desire of the fans who ultimately pay the dudes salary. I know Simmons is second fiddle…maybe even third now with old Chicago whats his name…ah Dudley…in the mix, but hopefully the message gets through!

Looking forward to whopping up on the Canadiens Saturday. Time to turn the ship around and start that winning streak!

mike

December 11th, 2009
10:33 am

you guys much better than on you comment like changing lines, russians are -6, trade white,ext., guys don’t be so naive it’s not about hockey, it’s pure and simple contract distractions, end of story. thank you very much dw and asg you did it again all you care basketball extension for jonston on the way, but they no going to pay money kovy deserved. quebec will. they don’t deserve team in atlanta. i think high school football drawing same crowd. looking for gold olimpic game between canada and russia. here you going to see real kovy.

Spud Webb

December 11th, 2009
10:37 am

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, with all due respect Mike, I disagree. Maybe Kovy is distracted by the contract, but no way this whole team is distracted.
As far as the team going to Quebec, I swear they had a team up there before?? Some pretty good talent on that team if I remember?? Some guys named forsberg and sakic??? So what has changed to make you think they can support a team there? I’m interested to hear why Quebec with all it’s grace will get another team??

Rawhide

December 11th, 2009
10:48 am

random question: I need to know what Season Kozzy was first made an alternate captain. Anyone remember?

J.B. – Off the top of my head and without looking…I wanna say it was last year.

World Be Free

December 11th, 2009
10:50 am

Not sure where I am sitting Saturday night.
Hoping it will be better effort and game.

Sorry I am not more thought-provoking today, but you see, I have had too many donuts and egg nog.

five_hole

December 11th, 2009
11:03 am

Putting On The Foil It’s the best. The 18 year old is $140.

five_hole

December 11th, 2009
11:04 am

BTW, Glovesave Happy Hannukkah.

Rawhide

December 11th, 2009
11:04 am

five_hole – I’ll be in 120…so I will certainly be sure to swing by and say “howdy”!

GaVaHokie

December 11th, 2009
11:07 am

Well… here’s something to stir the pot a little… what does everyone think of the last couple paragraphs of this article. Quotes from Ron Wilson (Coach, Team USA)..

http://www.torontosun.com/sports/hockey/2009/12/07/12073216-sun.html

Spud Webb

December 11th, 2009
11:13 am

Hokie, I’ll bite.
Dear Ron Wilson,
STFU & put Bogo on the team, it’s simple & will make you look like a genuis.
Love,
Spud Webb

Zoomo

December 11th, 2009
11:33 am

Rawhide..thanks for the virtual coffee and donuts.. the only pleasentries after this latest stretch.

I really hate to see this win 4 , lose 4 pattern return. Something the franchsie has struggled with for too long. I think this is where your coaches have to earn their money. They have to recognize the failings, and take aggressive corrective action to address the deficiencies of the team’s play and right the ship.

I’ve had high hopes for this coaching regime based on the overhaul of the PK during training camp. I hope that type of video study and correction is at play right now. And, I also wonder aloud if Anderson’s laid back persona is a detriment to getting the team fired up when things are going bad. I don’t know what he’s like behind closed doors, but my perception is he’s far from an “in your face” kind of coach.

Dwayne

December 11th, 2009
11:40 am

Kane should be on the 2nd line with Pevs and little.

Darren

December 11th, 2009
11:45 am

*rubs his eyes and yawns*

…Wait a second.. isn’t the last name “Sedin”?

Rawhide

December 11th, 2009
12:04 pm

Rawhide..thanks for the virtual coffee and donuts.. the only pleasentries after this latest stretch.

Zoomo – Yer welcome, partner… will we be seeing you and the tax exemption tomorrow night?

Bill, I am also honored to be mentioned in the blog!!! Lemon filled for me!!!

Spudster – My pleasure…and one last lemon filled here with your name on it.

Can someone pass me a Krispy Kreme dammit?

POTF – Lucky for you the delivery truck called in by Trixie just pulled up…take a couple.

…Wait a second.. isn’t the last name “Sedin”?

Darren – Why, yes…yes it is in fact….and you’re up at the crack of noon. Sleeping in ‘eh?

Thrashers27

December 11th, 2009
12:16 pm

I gotta say that Boris hasn’t disappointed yet. I think I’ve noticed him out of position once in the two games he’s played. His skating looks better. Aside from the stupid penalty he took, I’d say he’s doing well. Especially, with the fight he was in. I forget who he fought, but he was pounding that guy.

World Be Free

December 11th, 2009
12:37 pm

If ya’ll remember, we passed on the Sedins 10 years ago when we drafted Stephanie.

Scotty

December 11th, 2009
12:40 pm

Todd White must sit! He is simply dead weight out there right now.

If JA did put him in the press box, it’s not like his “production” numbers would suffer.

Trixie (Rawhide's Secretary)

December 11th, 2009
12:44 pm

OK…who ordered all of these pizzas? The delivery truck just pulled up and dropped them off.

Am I to assume that this breakfast gathering is now going to last through lunch? Possibly an all-weekend kegger?

Fifi the maid is not going to be happy at all about this!

Spud Webb

December 11th, 2009
12:52 pm

My favorite word in the world, well second after s&x, KEGGER. I gotta grow up someday. ahahhaahhahhaa

World Be Free

December 11th, 2009
12:56 pm

Don’t think we will see any significant trades now, maybe February due to the salary cap. But it’s clear that some type of shakeup is in order. Too many guys have been in a slump since early October. Anyone missing the mark that long should not be rewarded with continual ice time when not producing. Especially since most of these guys have lacked hockey desperation in their respective games. You know, like hitting someone or even getting in a fight. You gotta wonder if some of these guys real value their jobs.

Time to take tips from the Scotty Bowman School of Coaching. It didn’t matter who the “star” was; if you didn’t play his way and produce, you sat. Shula was the same way. That’s why these guys are the winningest coaches of all time in their respective sports.

World Be Free

December 11th, 2009
1:16 pm

Kegger, a very commom term in Buffalo. Buffalo, a city where everything evolves around alcohol and/or the consumption of alcohol. Can’t remember how many times I heard “3:30 (AM), last call”.

Mrs. DWTOO

December 11th, 2009
1:18 pm

Bummer! I missed out on the Krispy Kremes! Looking forward to seeing everybody next Saturday. Comin’ home!

TheFan79

December 11th, 2009
1:23 pm

Maybe they can start next winning streak by beating Montreal this saturday .

Zoomo

December 11th, 2009
1:27 pm

>>will we be seeing you and the tax exemption tomorrow night?

No Habs for us. We’ve been pre-empted by a holiday party.

Russian

December 11th, 2009
1:30 pm

ANYBODY!!!!
I NEED ONE TICKET FOR SATURDAY GAME!!!!
I want to see on real life What Hell HAPPEND with KOVY!!!
I am serious, if anyone has a free ticket. I will take it.
THANKS.

Russian

December 11th, 2009
1:32 pm

You can drop message here or Contact with BIll. He knows my email. Thanks again.

stendec

December 11th, 2009
1:33 pm

If John Petrino had any guts, which he does not, he would rip the C off Ilya Kovalchuk uniform and toss the damn thing into the trash. Not one of these quitters deserve to wear the coveted letter. The Russian is always whining about the Thrashers not being a top tier squad. Here is a news flash. If the kapitan would lead by example with a couple of points per outing and hustle whenever on the ice the Thrashers would be a top tier team. That is what true captains do! They do not sulk about contract negotiations not going their way. Wah wah wah! The quitter should honor his current contract! His present salary will not put him in the soup line! I saw the loser agruing with Canuck fans last night. Now that is true focus. The Russian is Maryann Hossa. Will be at third speed until he suits up elsewhere. That is obvious to me. Even starting to become obvious to many apologists. Trade him now for several mid-range players who possess fire, desire and heart who are proud to be at NHL level. KL has become a selfish athlete out for KL. So very sad! ++STENDEC++

stendec

December 11th, 2009
1:35 pm

Should be IK. Guess someone else still on my mind. Forgive slipup. ++STENDEC++

NASCAR Dave

December 11th, 2009
1:50 pm

I kinda agree with STENDEC, on KOVY…

But i’d personally rather wait until he DOES NOT RESIGN HERE so DON will get FIRED… Then we kill 2 birds with one stone.

TableHockey

December 11th, 2009
1:50 pm

Anyone hear Doug Maclean on FAN590 today? On Twitter I’m hearing he said two things of interest – one is that the team is not in any hurry to sign Kovy and the other involved the possibility of selling the team.

Did anyone hear first person and can shed some light? Thanks!

NASCAR Dave

December 11th, 2009
1:51 pm

Boy, that RON HAINSEY was ONE AWESOME PICKUP, wasn’t he???

LMAO.

NASCAR Dave

December 11th, 2009
1:53 pm

Sell the team. KOVY doesn’t want to play here. When he leaves, there will NO fans. ZERO. Zilch. Except the few sheep talking about “we’re moving in the right direction”…

Hilarious.

stendec

December 11th, 2009
2:10 pm

Tell the Hanson Brothers to get foiled up. The Thrashers are in desperate need of some physical toughness! ++STENDEC++

Hockey Biltong

December 11th, 2009
2:10 pm

POTF- enjoy that nectar!!!

NASCAR Dave

December 11th, 2009
2:13 pm

“Tell the Hanson Brothers to get foiled up. The Thrashers are in desperate need of some physical toughness!”

Yeah, whose brilliant idea was that to sit out BOULTON last night? JOHN PETRINO and his “OFFENSIVE EXPLOSION” System??? What a joke.

stendec

December 11th, 2009
2:18 pm

Anyone still believe Ilya Kovalchuk is one of the top players in NHL considering his unmotivated play of late? Should Thrashers award such apathetic uneffort when other players are busting their a$$es every single shift? Please be honest. ++STENDEC++

mike

December 11th, 2009
2:34 pm

agree with stendec worst player on the team righr now kovy, pull out “c” from him, sit in the press box, trade. spud, is kovy speek same language max, kozzy, nik. what you think going between them (they are all friends) about kovy contract status. is that pozitive for team spirit. all i now they wanted him extend baddly. but my point, what is damn wrong with this THRASHER ORGANIZATION, why we always on bad side of story. did ovy, malkin, krosby, lecavalier, st lois, nash, toews, savard (when in boston), datsyuk, zettenberg ets., got same distractions. what can i say sorry thrashers , sorry waddel.

Bob

December 11th, 2009
2:39 pm

“one is that the team is not in any hurry to sign Kovy and the other involved the possibility of selling the team.”

There’s something going on. Two weeks ago it’s like somebody threw the switch off on Kovy. He was playing balls out, rumor was contract was imminent, and then bam. That would all make sense if the owners don’t want to sign him to a long term deal so that the new owner can make their own decision about what to do with him.

NASCAR Dave

December 11th, 2009
2:42 pm

STENDEC –

“We won’t be talking about this come Christmastime.” – Don Waddell

NASCAR Dave

December 11th, 2009
2:42 pm

NASCAR Dave

December 11th, 2009
2:44 pm

“Guys, we really, really lucked out in many early season games pulling wins out although we got outplayed. Think about how many late game comebacks and goals we had.”

EXACTLY. These Canadian teams have exposed us for what we really are…

Nutznorm

December 11th, 2009
2:52 pm

Hasn’t Stendec gotten a lifetime ban for pure and utter stupidity yet? News flash everyone,……No team ever is going to look great in every game,….doesnt happen. You really want to take the “C” off Kovalchuk? Truth,….this team is good. They are not going to win a cup this year. They may be good enough to win one series depending on the draw. Funny thing about the NHL. Other teams watch video of you and game plan,… imagine that. A team could actually devise a plan to take away some of the things the Thrashers do well and take advantage of some things they don’t. The team played well last night. Not as good at Calgary, not at all in Toronto. They need to play better at home, and need Pavs to get back to looking like a starter with a couple wins. For the many whiners and so called Hockey Experts here that are ready to blow everything up, you might need to take the alcohol out of your morning coffee. You can play a great game in this league and still lose. You can play like crap and still win. The Thrash have a few points from the last scenario. This team will be fine, a win on Saturday and we will have the other side of our local hockey idiots screaming about how we are a cup contender. This team is young, exciting, can score, is better defensively and plays with heart not for sixty solid minutes every night, but NO TEAM does that. All you need to be is number 1-8 when the season ends and now we are in 7 with at least a game at hand over all but three teams in the conference. I would have loved a couple of points in Calgary and Vancouver, but would love them more against the Habs, Rangers and Panthers coming up.

Nutznorm

December 11th, 2009
3:11 pm

NASCAR Dave,….. did you read the article or did you just skim it looking to see if Danica Patrick was going to be driving for your team in 2010? Can you really take someone (Puck Daddy) seriously who said that the Thrash are toiling at the bottom of the Eastern Conference when they are 4 games over 500 and currently in 7th in the East? Did he even look at the conference standings when he wrote this drivel? Sounds like someone in Canada is a little cranky because his beloved Leafs are within spitting distance of having a top three pick in next years draft lottery. I cant argue with him about attendance, but I understand that people that have lost jobs cant afford to pay for tickets. Another prime example of bias against Southern hockey. Let me know when the Leafs get competitive again. If my memory is working correctly, after this year, they will be 5 years out of the playoffs. The Thrash should make 2 of the last three. Where would you rather be? Though I will admit the beer and strippers are much better in Canada.

Nutznorm

December 11th, 2009
3:14 pm

Oops sorry, 2 of 4 years in the playoffs,….I am self editing.

GaVaHokie

December 11th, 2009
3:23 pm

Before the road trip started, the Thrash were on pace for 104 pts… now we are on pace for 93 pts, which will keep them around that 8th spot, but they gotta break out of this slump quickly.

The next two games are pretty important for the current standings… gotta keep NYR and MON away.

stendec

December 11th, 2009
3:25 pm

Hey Numbnuts – When the Thrashers pack up their hockey gear and head to Hamilton I will remember your innane comments. What a damn loser. Yep, you are definitely a Thrasher apologist! I will still have the Flames despite time difference. Who will YOU root for? Jerk! ++STENDEC++

Brian G.

December 11th, 2009
3:28 pm

Nutz – That article was written December 12, 2008.

It was from last year.

World Be Free

December 11th, 2009
4:10 pm

It’s a warm a fuzzy Friday on the AJC blog.

I think we need to go back and talk about Keggers, since kegging never puts anyone in a bad mood. I have some great kegger stories, hopefully I’ll be able to remember all of them.

Stendec-where are you sitting tomorrow night? It would be interesting to meet you. How about everyone else? I’d ratehr argue or “discuss” in person.

Jimbo

December 11th, 2009
4:13 pm

The stategy of speed and defensive play looked good early on but it appears that everyone has discovered that we simply don’t compete along the boards- no real muckers or grinders. Until we get someone other than Kane to play physically, we’re gonna see a string of disappointing low scoring loses. Anderson has to re-evaluate his system and strategy . why in the world did Boulton sit when we needed some physical play?

R. Stroz

December 11th, 2009
4:29 pm

WBF – I’ll be in Section 222, Row E, Seat 8, near the guys with the cowbells.

five-hole – I’m sure you’ll hear me with the BULLHORN from cowbell corner.

Bob

December 11th, 2009
4:41 pm

“I think we need to go back and talk about Keggers, since kegging never puts anyone in a bad mood.”

Dude, as soon as I read that I had a flashback to a Friday night kegger back in college. Our frat and the guys next door had a 20 keg party. Cow troughs filled with kegs. Well, the line at our kegs was kind of long, so I went next door and stood in line at that keg (as I was too drunk to remember where the secret keg was stashed) and as I stood in line behind the Sigma Chi in front of me, I burped/puked right on his back, big time, lots of it, dripping down his back and pants. He was so hammered as well, he had no idea. I turned, walked back to our house, and went to bed.

Your kegger story?

LAC

December 11th, 2009
4:44 pm

Right Nascardave & Stendec, #17 does not care…. I wish we could watch him play like OV, he NEVER hits anyone, always skates around the blueline hoping for that perfect pass, and lately everytime he skates into their zone, he loses the puck.

E.Kane was at one time near the top of rookie scoring… NOT anymore,
something is wrong with this entire team all of a sudden. Lazy play with NO desire to win, just get it over with and go home.

And right Nascardave, LIAR waddell, “We won’t be talking about this at Christmas”, That man LIES worse than Satan himself, always lying is waddell, he NEVER tells the TRUTH, Know what that even is “don” you blubbering bafoon.

I bet in two years this team is gone, all thanks to waddell and his lies and the fact my grand daughter at 8, knows more how to run a hockey team than this STUPID SOB ? Come on “don” put up or SHUT UP YOU
A$$ HOLE !

five_hole

December 11th, 2009
4:46 pm

R. Stroz I’ve heard you in Alpharetta, my friend.

Jimbo Like several others, have pointed out that we consistantly get beat along the boards. And we sat Boulton in favor of another skilled “weenie” last night. Maybe we should split up the “Greek Gods” among the other lines, so more evenly divide the muckers and scoring.

Ward

December 11th, 2009
5:10 pm

Hey hockey travelers…ever flown from Florida to Toronto to Calgary and then Vancouver in the span of six days and merely walked around each place, moved from hotel to hotel etc??? Then add the middle of a cold spell, fluseason and poor sleep patterns? And now add Maple Leafs, and two tough western teams trying to beat your brains in on their home ice?? Probably our toughest six day stretch….and we could have come back 2-2 with some luck!!This team is exciting, Anderson is an excellent coach and we still need to develop some identity. We still make the playoffs today!!!Hang in there.Remember the “mix” we have. Youth and veterans with journeymen. This can be inconsistent at times. Ward

Nate

December 11th, 2009
5:27 pm

This team seriously lacks toughness. They look more like a figure skating team than a hockey team most shifts. Pavelec has come back to reality and the team has stopped scoring due to soft play on the boards. You can’t press the issue if you can’t win puck battles. This team was designed to win games 5-4. That ain’t happenin right now so instead of winning 5-4 we’re losing 3-1, 4-2, 5-2, etc…

stendec

December 11th, 2009
5:30 pm

Hi Ward. Thanks for providing Thrashers with excuses to fail. Stick around. Think the guys will require your services all season long. Say hello to Kari Lehtonen when you see him in LaLa Land. ++STENDEC++

stendec

December 11th, 2009
5:51 pm

Someone contact the Hanson Brothers. Thrashers may still lose but games will be a Hell of a lot more fun to watch! ++STENDEC++

NASCAR Dave

December 11th, 2009
6:04 pm

Hey WARD, don’t give me some STUPID excuse about “they’re tired from the traveling”!!!

SHUT THE HELL UP!!! These LOSERS get paid MILLIONS!!! They should be able, ready, and willing TO DEAL WITH IT!!!

And we DON’T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS, will YOU be able to DEAL WITH IT???

What an Idiot.

NASCAR Dave

December 11th, 2009
6:07 pm

“This team seriously lacks toughness.”

YEP. 10 (11?) years and running on that one…

Dr. Phil

December 11th, 2009
6:38 pm

The lunatics are back.

LAC

December 11th, 2009
9:12 pm

Boy this “ward” must be ward clever speaking from the grave, because MILLION dollar players, should be in a physical position to endure travel quite well. If they were riding a bus, well this is not the old EHL…

Just shows another NON Hockey fan voicing an Excuse for the team of MILLION dollar players stinking it up.

Where is the STUPID overpaid, Idiot GM on this ? What lie or excuse
do you have for us all today “don” ???

LAC

December 11th, 2009
9:15 pm

Oh dr.phil… go have an affair with Okra, I mean oprah… You need all the help YOU can get ! And leave the REAL Hockey fans alone… OK, Can you preform that one Simple task with your pea size brain ? Go Away !

World Be Free

December 12th, 2009
7:21 am

Good morning-some thoughts while my morning coffee (Tim Hortons!!!!!) is still brewing.

I respect everyone’s right to have an opinion; in fact I welcome your opinions. But some of you guys take this stuff way too seriously. It’s a hockey team, a sport and you don’t own the team. None of what happens on the ice directly impacts your life, unless you are foolishly betting your take home pay on this or any team. It’s a long season and there’s going to be be plenty of ups and downs all season. Guys will play good one week and crappy the next. I know, as a player I have been thu this before and I was never paid to play the game.

Some of you guys are starting to sound like Maple Leaf fans. You know, Shiite hockey fans.

Stroz, don’t know where I am sitting yet, but I’ll come over and see you tonight after the 1st period-blue Thrashers hat and jersey. Look forward to it.

jerry

December 12th, 2009
7:51 am

Watch how the opponent passes the puck. Watch how the Thrashers pass the puck.
Watch how the opponent fights to get the puck out of their zone. Ditto for the Thrashers. I don’t see much resemblance.

LAC

December 12th, 2009
7:57 am

Jerry is 100% correct, there is a BIG difference in how other teams clear their zone and how the Thrashers try to.

Watching some other games, most teams have players in the correct position to recieve a outlet pass, the Thrashers do not, they shoot
the puck around the boards hoping it will clear, thus NO attack.

Most of out rushes are a one shot and out type thing. What drives me crazy is watching them get caught running around their own end while the other team controls play, we almost NEVER can do that.

Frankly I am getting tired of this run & guns so called offense, I would much rather see a tight checking defensive game, with lower scores where we compete better, because this style is not working out…

As we can all see the team is completely out of gas, I really wonder what will take place tonight ? We are a creampuff team and it really shows, I just hope TRADES are made and made soon… This is not getting any better… But them we ALL know who is the GM…. Don’t we !

World Be Free

December 12th, 2009
8:04 am

I have been calling for a tightening of the defense (as a team) in our own end for weeks. Not sure we have the lineup to convert to the trap. And I am not sure I have the stomach for the Thrashers to become “New Jersey South”.

Cover the points, don’t let them pass or whoot in the offensive zone.

Dwayne

December 12th, 2009
8:13 am

I have loved the Thrashers 15 times this year, hated them 11 times and said “oh well” 3 times. I hope I can say “I loved them” enough times so I can go see a playoff game in Atlanta.

Dwayne

December 12th, 2009
9:17 am

How come, for the most part, the haters only come out when the Thrashers are sucking, like now, and the Kool Aide drinkers, for the most part only come out when they are winning?

Rawhide

December 12th, 2009
9:24 am

G’Mornin’ all…sitting here checking out last night’s NHL highlights via NHL On the Fly’s replay. I was out all evening at the Cobb Energy Center watching the Army Ground Forces Band perform a holiday concert. Awesome stuff!!!

Looks like Washington is 8-0 vs. the SE with their OT win against the Canes and Buffalo beat Chicago.

WFB – As I sit here and sip my morning brew with you, I have to echo your comments above regarding some of the discussion that took place here last night.

turning to address the general blogosphere population…

Look guys…you know I allow a great deal of latitude when it comes to venting about this team. But when someone pies ups with a point of view related to the discussion that may seem contrary to yours, let’s try to show some common decency…shall we?

It has been frustrating watching our team play lately…but differences in opinions shouldn’t be taken as a personal attack.

Ward…since I don’t recall seeing you around here before…let me offer you a warm welcome. And while I undertsand exactly what you are saying regarding this tough schedule the Thrashers have dealt with over the past week, I tend to agree with what Bob Hartley once said about players using the “being tired” as a reason for not playing well. “These guys travel by way of chartered jets…sleep in the nicest of hotel rooms…eat at the best restaurants” he’d say. “If they are ‘tired’ then maybe they should find another profession…say, installing windshields at an auto plant at union wages”.

I prefer to explain what happened to the Thrashers in Canada this past week as simply being out hustled, out hit and simply out played.

World Be Free

December 12th, 2009
9:46 am

My best kegger story involved Gennesee Beer. Genny used to have a beer truck, an actual 15 foot refrigerated truck filled with beer with 12 beer taps on the side. I remember once going to a college party; the beer truck was also in attendance. In fact, it was the focal point of the outside party. What happened after that, I’ll never know. The member comes back every 10 years or so.

Dwayne

December 12th, 2009
9:57 am

My best kegger has nothing to do with a keg, it dtarted out with beer, then shots of rum, then a few shots of jaeger, then a fith of Makers Mark, passed out, fell flat on my face, luckily the neck of the bottle hit right above my left eye and only left a small scar. And of course, I didn’t spill any liquor.

R. Stroz

December 12th, 2009
11:03 am

Tom

December 12th, 2009
12:40 pm

Curly

December 12th, 2009
12:44 pm

Russian – I have an extra ticket to tonight’s game. I can email it to you.

Spud Webb

December 12th, 2009
1:13 pm

Bob and WBF, oh god. Great stories, Bob, “forgot where the hidden keg was” hahahahhahahhaahha, stood in line!!! CLASSIC…
I work 2 jobs, one business and the other serving tables (won’t name the place, don’t want some of you crazies showing up!!! ahh), the serving job we’re having our xmas party NOT sponsered by the company tonight!! I just dropped the keg off this morning!!! ahhahahah, gonna be a GREAT night!!!
As far as some of the posting, with all due respect when I see Nascar, Stendec I just keep scrolling!! Too much hate!!! Just my opinion!!

Miami Screaming Eagle

December 12th, 2009
1:28 pm

People losing their minds on this blog accomplishs nothing. Life is too short to be ticked off about something you cannot control.

Hockey Buzz has a list of the worst trades ever, the Coburn deal is listed. But so are deals by GM’s with great reputations, they all make bad moves. Take a look at the drafting records of teams and you’ll find most make more mistakes than hits. Maybe Toronto wasn’t so dumb giving up 3 high picks for Kessel. At least they know what they received in the deal. Boston has no idea what it will get in 3 picks.

Thrashers27

December 12th, 2009
2:02 pm

Just crossed paths with good ole Jaqcues Martin walking down Olympic Park Drive. A gust of wind came up and caught his ears. I swear I saw his feet leave the ground. Then he gave me the stank eye ’cause I was wearing my Thrashers sweater.

Russian

December 12th, 2009
2:48 pm

**to Curly**
Thanks. I got it already.

Dwayne

December 12th, 2009
2:50 pm

Lord have mercy on us. We blamed Don for everything, he goes out and signs enough players to be competitive, now JA can’t get the right line combos. Its JA’s fault now. Lets fire him!!! I agree with anyone who says lets have 2 good scoring lines, a 3rd line that might click with no pressure on them to score, and a fourth line.

Tim

December 12th, 2009
3:04 pm

Was at the game, wearing my new Bogo Jersey. My girlfriend was chearing for Vancouver while I got all the attention from everyone on my section. Quite a fun night. However, watching the dump and chase and possibly one of the worst passing game I’ve seen from the Thrashers for a while, it’s quite painful. Anyway, hopefully we rebound against MTL tonight.

Brendan

December 12th, 2009
5:30 pm

Since Phil Kessel’s return, he’s had 10 goals and six assists for 16-points in 19 games. That’s almost a point a game. And, since October 24, 2009, the Maple Leafs have banked 26 of 46 possible points, with a record of 10-7-3. So, I’d have to say that Kessel has at least contributed to a noticeable turn-around from their 0-7-1 start. http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/teams/schedule/TOR/

Kessel is signed for five years. So, that’s not hanging in doubt. That’s all locked up. But Toronto is still ranked 29th in points in the league, with only Carolina trailing them. If they cannot escape the lottery draft, Boston will have an excellent chance to find a noteworthy player in the 1st round. They’ll also have a decent shot, in the “shot in the dark” portion of the draft that is the 2nd round. If Boston picks 32nd overall, they can still find somebody who might play in the NHL for a number of years, down the road. Or, they could certainly attempt to land some other team’s RFA in a trade. That would take some the “unknown” portion away from the 3 picks they got from Toronto for Kessel.

Hope the rain doesn’t freeze tonight. It’ll be slick out there. So, be careful.

Brendan

December 12th, 2009
5:37 pm

I take my coffee cloudy, with sweet-n-low. I know. I suck. I should drink it black. Or not at all.

Dwayne, blame and praise has to be dispensed somewhere? Things don’t just happen by themselves. It’s the coach’s job to elevate the level of play of the players. And to know what line combinations work best. It’s the GM’s job to oversee the franchise, by making draft picks, trades, and negotiating contracts. Including deciding WHO gets them and who DOESN’T. And for how LONG and how MUCH. And the poor guy has to do with with the Atlanta Spirit, LLC holding the purse strings.

Tom

December 12th, 2009
7:32 pm

Someone pleaset take Valabeck out behind the barn and do what needs to be done.

Tom

December 12th, 2009
9:16 pm

In the beginning of the season we were shooting often on the power play and it was the best in the league. Now we are impotent as we are back to last years passing power play.

HookyBob

December 12th, 2009
10:43 pm

Any person attending their first game tonight has to have become a fan. This game had a lot to offer.

Great comeback guys.

Hockey Biltong

December 12th, 2009
11:04 pm

Red Rider-Lunatic Fringe.
The cardiac kids bring it home!!!!

Brendan

December 12th, 2009
11:43 pm

The first half of this game … was a bust. But once Schubert got the 1st Thrasher goal, the Thrashers came to life. By the way, I thought that was Colby Armstrong’s goal. Colby would then score to tie it, 2-2. Thrashers would trail again, 3-2. But Antropov answered for Atlanta. And finally, it was Kovalchuk with the OT winner, his first GWG of the year. Here’s your boxscore: http://www.nhl.com/ice/boxscore.htm?id=2009020471

Here’s the defensive TOI: (1) Enstrom: 24:33, (2) Hainsey: 19:38, (3) Kubina: 19:26, (4) Bogosian: 19:25, (5) Schubert: 14:26, and (6) Valabik: 11:54.

Kovy, Armey, Schubert, and Enstrom each had two points.

The following Thrashers were +2: Kane, Kovalchuk and Armstrong. These Thrashers were +1: Schubert, Kovy, and Kubina.

In the Southeast Division, Carolina lost AGAIN, 4-2, to Ottawa. The Maple Leafs doubled up the Capitals, 6-3. Toronto is now 11-7-6 since their 0-7-1 start. Things appear to be stabilizing for them. The Cats got an OT point off Crosby and the Penguins, 3-2, in a loss. Other games of interest, due to the standing, saw the Islanders take an overtime win, 3-2, over Boston. The NY Rangers lost AGAIN. This time it was a 3-2 regulation time loss to the Buffalo Sabres. And New Jersey defeated Laviolett’s Flyers, 4-1. Laviolette has yet to jump start the Flyers.

Brendan

December 13th, 2009
12:04 am

On Hockey Night in Canada’s “Hot Stove” segment, they did talk about the Kovalchuk contract. They reported that someone named “Alexandre Medvedev” was in Atlanta, or coming to Atlanta, to talk to Kovalchuk. I assume that’s someone highly connected to the Kontinental Hockey League (KHL) in Russia. The HNIC panel FLATLY denied a rumor that said Canucks GM Mike Gillis had been calling about Kovalchuk. The HNIC panelist said that, “If Kovalchuk can’t make a decision in the next month, that the Thrashers would have to look into picking up the phone to start shopping the guy.” They supplied the time frame of “one month.” You’ll all recall that Don Waddell said, in no uncertain terms, that Ilya Kovalchuk WILL NOT BE TRADED. As in, “period, the end.” Kovalchuk, reportedly, defers any contract talk to Waddell and his agent.

Well, I still think this is a fair question. “Have you decided to test the market, even if your intent is to remain in Atlanta, as you’ve claimed that you want to?” What? That’s a fair question. What’s the alternative? If Vivlamore asks him, “Ilya, are you committed to leaving this market next year?” Kovalchuk’s answer will be, “No, I want to stay in Atlanta. That’s my goal. But you have to defer contract negotiations to Waddell and Jay Grossman.” That’s such a copout answer. But, he’s pretty required to state as much. Otherwise, his agent will smack him. He PAYS Jay Grossman to manipulate GM’s. That’s Grossman’s job. He’s a player agent. His goal, in addition to getting the maximum number of dollars possible for his client, is to pad his commission, as well. What I don’t like, as a fan, is dishonesty. But … we’re never gonna get the truth. If Ilya’s intent is to leave Atlanta, whether it’s to play in Russia or for some other NHL team, then answers like, “I’d very much like to stay” will cause fans, once he’s departed, if he departs Atlanta, to hate on him. “You said you WANTED to stay, then you left.” That’d be the sentiment that creates the SEETHING RAGE. I don’t blame Ilya, if he leaves. I understand the reasons. But I honestly, and perhaps naively, believe that Ilya’s contract stalling has everything to do manipulating the team’s moves (1) at the trade deadline, (2) the draft, and (3) in free agency. The only thing Kovalchuk has, as leverage, is his contract. Once signed, the ownership can go RIGHT BACK to league minimum payrolls, and Ilya will just have to ENDURE it, while regretting the decision to stay. I wouldn’t trust the AS, LLC. They haven’t demonstrated competence in hockey operations. It’s been 4 years, and Belkin hasn’t been bought out. What’s Ilya supposed to make of that? If he re-signs, he should INSIST on some clause that relates to proximity to the salary cap limit on Opening Night.

Krust

December 13th, 2009
12:17 am

All right boys great win tonight. But I have great question for rawhide and everyone! Is this not the first time an Atlanta Hockey team has beaten the Candianes on Atlanta home ice. Atlanta Flames included. I remember when I was just young boy Mr. Willie Plett made his debue and it was aganist Canadians. He scored goal beat the ever living snot out someone and we tied them 3-3. Rawhide confirm this I really think I am right. First time win on home ice. I could be wrong. Too many beers. But I think I am close! Please confirm. Long time Hockey fan from Atlanta.

Brendan

December 13th, 2009
12:22 am

Krust, this is not the first time Atlanta has defeated Montreat at Philips Arena. I’m not sure when the first time was. But I do remember a time, very early in the franchise history, where Atlanta was losing to Montreal and Kovalchuk scored to tie it, 3-3, or 4-4, with 10 seconds left. I think the Thrashers then won that game in overtime.

I think the Thrashers have a minimum of five career home victories over the Habs. It might be six or seven or eight. I don’t know.

Alan R.

December 13th, 2009
1:25 am

They reported that someone named “Alexandre Medvedev” was in Atlanta, or coming to Atlanta, to talk to Kovalchuk. I assume that’s someone highly connected to the Kontinental Hockey League (KHL) in Russia.

He’s the KHL president. I would hope he’s highly connected to the KHL :P

I would also assume his visit wouldn’t go unnoticed by Atlantans.

Wayne stuck in AL

December 13th, 2009
1:38 am

“I would also assume his visit wouldn’t go unnoticed by Atlantans.”

What are people to look for?

Alan R.

December 13th, 2009
2:09 am

Wayne, high-profile people tend to attract attention. Medvedev visited Washington and spoke with some of the Russian players there, and that visit didn’t go unnoticed.

Tony C.

December 13th, 2009
7:09 am

Medvedev also has stated that he’s quite open to “acquiring” an NHL franchise… in fact, he and Betteman had a summit meeting, and when Betteman was asked about the details-people hammered on the whole KHL-NHL contract dispute which Betteman brushed off “we talked about several things, but we’re going to let the IIHF continue their investigation and we’re confident this matter will be resolved quickly”[sic]

Medvedev was quoted as saying that he had brought up the possibility of him purchasing an NHL franchise, and Betteman was receptive… I think Puck Daddy had a pretty good piece on it.

Anyway, thought the boys gave them the 1st (as usual), then decided to play the 2nd and 3rd. I can’t wait until they start playing 60 minutes.

I do think it was quite obvious that #17’s contract talks have stalled-if there is to be an ownership change, I can appreciate the financial environment would need to be “tidied up” so as to make the club as appealing as possible… but man, it makes me cry in my heart to see #17 just being lazy out there, especially since we’ve seen what the man can do when he puts his mind to it.

I personally wouldn’t mind if Medvedev bought the club-you want an owner with deep pockets-he’s the definition.

Tony C.

December 13th, 2009
8:21 am

also, I think Valabik has looked HEAPS better since coming back from Chicago

World Be Free

December 13th, 2009
9:19 am

Great to meet R Stroz and five_hole last night. Stroz has his own little section up in 222, a “semi private box” for him and his cowbewll gallery. Very neat.

Great recovery game.

Kovy-just sign the damn contract. This garbage is what I predicted mos ago and now we have to deal with it while we are trying to keep pace with other teams. To use a 60’s term, this is a drag.

Great to see Kane get pissed. He took an early reaction penalty and was ticked the rest of the game. I can’t wait till he gets big so he can lay some payback hits on the chumps like O’Byrne and Moen who run him.

Schubert upped his game too. He ran the Gorilla (Georges Laraque) so hard it opened the penalty box door. He used his shot last night too, which is very underrated. Laraque is not a hockey player.

Moose was terrible in ther 2nd periond-2 goals on 4 shots; much better 3rd period. Valabik looks like he has a balance problem on his skates. He may need to try a new pair or different brand (I am not kidding). He still stinks; I like Annsi alot better.

Finally, I want to pay tribute to Marty Reasoner. He’s so smart, almost never makes a mistake and plays well with whoever Anderson puts with him. He should be the 3rd line center. Marty is the 2nd best UFA signing by the Thrashers begind Peverly. He’s a perfect teammate.

World Be Free

December 13th, 2009
9:25 am

Trying to fugure out Montreal. I cannot define their game, they do not have great offense, defense, checking or transition. Their golatending is great for a period, the mediocre the next. Price was great up to the Schubert goal, then he stuggled for the most part afterward.

The Thrashers outshot somebody! I thought it was a misprint or the off ice official fell asleep during the game.

I don’t know who the young ref was last night, but he was awful. He called penalties for guys sneezing on each other. Bill Mcrearey was the other ref, he was probably shaking his head the entire game at the young guy’s calls.

LAC

December 13th, 2009
10:01 am

Good comeback after a Horrible first period. Did everyone see how Out Of Position Hainsey was on the first goal, he was no where close to Metro and allowed him to waltz right out from behind the net… He needs to SIT.

Strange to see MTL got only nine SOG in the last two periods, would have been about 8-3 if not for Price and several circus saves and goal posts…

Now a good time to catch a FLAT NYR team, then FL again… Let’s hope they play solid these next two games, then Ducks in.

Loved the jobs bit, I just spent $800,000 on 6 SD-90MAC’s for my
Railroad companies… I better be shipping some beer in those cars !
With my engines !

Miami Screaming Eagle

December 13th, 2009
10:12 am

LAC, do you think Hainsey’s problems may stem from Bogo being all over the ice all the time? It is a nightmare playing with an offensive defenseman, a guy who has the nod to rush the offensive zone.

You have to be a superior defensive defenseman to do it, like Dallas Smith who played with Bobby Orr. I am not making excuses for Hainsey, but his current situation may have something to do with his overall play.

HookyBob

December 13th, 2009
10:22 am

One thing that stuck out in my mind last night was how dis-organized the power play was.

Then I read in Puck-Daddy that the Habs had killed 33 straight until Ilya scored.

So maybe it wasn’t our power play as much as it was a very effective PK we were up against.

five_hole

December 13th, 2009
12:21 pm

It was great to meet World Be Free in person; R Stroz, Kracker and Bill, always great to see you guys again.

Great way to end the game. My thoughts:

1. The Thrashers seem to have 2 speeds; off and on. They played the first 25 minutes in the off position. Then, something woke them up and they played the rest of the game “on”.

2. I’ve spent the last several blogs dissing “Orange” Schubert (and after the 1st period with World Be Free and R Stroz) then “Orange” (I was going to nickname him Franz, but wasn’t sure how many would get that) goes and scores a goal & gets an assist. Damn him. (BTW, he was on the ice when Kostytsyn scored his 1st goal, where Schubert blew the coverage).

3. Bogosian should have been named one of the 3 stars. Not only did he have a great game, but he beat the snot out of that Canadien. I just love that kid.

4. Did any one else see Kubina limp off the ice with about 2 minutes left in regulation? We can’t afford to be without him.

5. For a smaller guy, Kane plays with an edge and doesn’t back down. He also has a very quick stick (meaning great hands). He just needs to get bigger. Quickly.

6. For the 3rd game in a row, Valabik was a +0 (12 minutes of ice time). He still took a stupid penalty and can’t clear the puck out of the zone, but 3 consecutive games of +0 (2 of them losses) says something. And when we’ve got midgets like Enstrom, White & Afiniginov, we need bigger guys like Boris to balance things out.

7. We need to resign Afiniginov. Now. He’s small, but the kid just makes things happen.

Bob

December 13th, 2009
1:19 pm

“but man, it makes me cry in my heart to see #17 just being lazy out there’

Tony, we made last night’s game and that’s what stuck out to me the most, he was floating all night. Even on the game winner, I expected to see him go wild and he just pumped his fist and then muttered something to himself, you can see it on the On The Fly replay. It’s obvious something is up with him, I’m wondering if he was ready to sign the contract and now ownership has put it on hold.

WBF, that kid ref made some horrible calls, real bad one on us in the 1st, but McCreary evened it up quickly and made it a 4 on 4.

stendec

December 13th, 2009
2:41 pm

I truly appreciate the overtime goal By Captain Ilya Kovalchuk which ensured the Montreal Canadiens would collect no more than a point at Thrasher expense. Thank you! Sincerely. ++STENDEC++

Tim

December 13th, 2009
2:47 pm

Yesterday win was an important one. A look on the standing show that Montreal is right behind us. By winning yesterday, we ensure ourself that if we end up with the same points and win as Montreal, we finish ahead of them. Hopefully we don’t even need to get there to make it into playoff. :)

Dwayne

December 13th, 2009
4:00 pm

sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet victory.

Smoothie

December 13th, 2009
4:18 pm

Bob, if you think Kovy was floating last night, man, you should have seen him in Florida! Compared to that game (of course, he supposedly had the flu bug), Kovy was All-Hustle last night. Hell, he even broke up a few plays by skating down to the circle…miracles never cease! If he would just put forth a modicum of effort to crowd a puck handler or create some congestion on a regular basis, then he would actually be worth $8.5 + million per season.

Where’s ol’ Rawhide?? No blog today? Blasphemy!

Tony C.

December 13th, 2009
4:20 pm

Bob-I think you’re spot-on with your thesis-I seem to recall seeing a #17 quote from right after he came back from the broken foot injury-he was asked if he truly liked what the mgmt was doing as far as team building; his response was along the lines of “yeah-they hung in there while I was out, I like the kids like [Bogosian, Kane, etc.] & playing for Johnny is great I love his system-it’s perfect for an offensive player like me”[sic] The next question was more specefic asking how the negotiations were progressing & was it a question of cash or time-(again paraphrased) “Yeah, like I said, things are going great I told my agent to go ahead get working on terms”

Rumor was that they had stalled on the length of the contract like what exactly *is* long-term. Clearly, something has happened to the guy, I’m hoping it’s the contract and not something in his personal life I know they’re expecting and all of us parents know how stressful that time can be.

Smoothie

December 13th, 2009
4:26 pm

WBF – great comments on the game last night. I agree on all counts. Especially the contract deal. Time to piss or get off the pot! It may not be a distraction for the team directly, but it becomes an indirect distraction because when Kovy is loafing / floating, the other players notice and it affects their effort level. Why play hard if our $6 M man isn’t going to give a crap??

As for Reasoner, thanks for taking the time to give him his due. The man is a work-horse and he does all of the unglamorous, dirty work without any let-up. He never seems to quit on a play. And his hockey IQ is off the charts! He brings all of the necessary intangibles you want from a 3rd line (or 4th line) stopper. Talk about your ante-Kovy! In fact, I appreciate his effort and hard work so much, I went ahead and put the “A” on my Reasoner jersey before the Alternate captainships were doled out. Hope to hell I can get some time at his black-jack table at Casino Night to tell him how much I appreciate his “unsung” hero work ethic.

And I agree, I would much rather he play 3rd line minutes, but perhaps playing 4th line keeps him fresh for the PK, on which he and Thorburn have been flat-out $$ this year. As long as we can get what we saw last night from Kane – White / Slater – Army and a greasy goal every couple of games, I think we’ll be okay. Especially if we can get the power-play cookin’ again.

Lee

December 13th, 2009
4:43 pm

phew, bout time they win one, kinda sick of them not drinkin their coffee. Long season though. How many games is NJ behind on Washington?

Jameson

December 13th, 2009
7:42 pm

Smoothie do they sale the seperate C’s and A’s at the team store?

Miami Screaming Eagle

December 13th, 2009
7:52 pm

Smoothie-Marty’s a good old western New York boy too. Our coaches in WNY would not put up with any loafing! Most of my coaches back then were blue collar workers, which is exactly what Marty has become. Good worker, but like you stated, very hockey smart.

Bob-what scares the heck out of me, are the number of older, old school refs that are retiring it up this year. And if you are retiring, you cannot referee theplayoffs. We’ll be left with these young “call everything” refs, who are determined to slow the game to a crawl.

I have to admit, I was a ref for one season while I was in high school. No idea how these guys put up wiuth the garbage they do with the fans so close to the action.

I can’t believe I saying this, but I actually miss referee Wally Harris. Back in the 70’s, Wally would turn his head to a good mugging until the last 2 minutes of a game! But he let teams play.

five_hole – I’m with you on the 2 speeds. The “off” button is very clear in the first period. Can’t remember the last time we scored the first goal on a home game. Credit our buddy Schubert for getting the team going last night.

Bill has some “splaining” to do as to his whereabouts today. Probably out shopping for my Christmas present.

Rawhide

December 13th, 2009
9:12 pm

Miami Screaming Eagle – Yes…I have been tardy on my latest blog post. I took the family out to lunch after church and then the youngest tax exemption and the Divine Mrs. R both performed in the Christmas musical this evening.

So, the day just got away from me.

However…here is the new post.

Smoothie

December 13th, 2009
9:16 pm

Jameson, I can’t tell you about the jerseys at the team store because I got mine at http://www.icejerseys.com, and I bet they are running some specials on customized (stitched) jerseys for the holidays. You can select A or C during the customization process. But I reckon the Slava, Colby (if there are any) and Hainsey jerseys prolly have the A in the team store. And you can most certainly bet that the Kovy jerseys have the C. But getting an old Kovy jersey without the letter might be a cheaper alternative route to try.