Moulson golden in Islanders win over Thrashers

Matt Moulson’s hat trick Thursday night propelled the Islanders to a 4-1 win over the Thrashers…the loss leaves Atlanta with a record of 14-8-3 and sixth in the Eastern Conference.

Matt Moulson celebrates hat trick with his teammates (AP Photo/Gregory Smith)

Matt Moulson celebrates hat trick with his teammates (AP Photo/Gregory Smith)

Things started off fairly well for Atlanta as they jumped on top 1-0 thanks to Slava Kozlov’s fifth goal of the season. It was set up nicely by a great move by Bryan Little on the left side, sliding by an Islander defender to feed Kozzy on the far post.

Todd White was awarded the secondary assist…so it’s nice to see that line get something going after struggling for the most part this season.

Little almost got the Thrashers their second goal of the night a few minutes later, but his shot from close range clanked off the pipe.

But that’s when they were given three servings of Moulson and it proved to be too much for them to handle…and it caused the fans in Thrasherville to feel a little sick to their stomachs.

“I love scoring. I love winning. It’s huge, especially against Atlanta, who is playing real well,” Moulson said after the game. “To hold them to one goal says a lot about our defense”.

Moulson scored his three goals on five shots. Top draft pick John Tavares finished off the scoring with an empty-netter that crossed the lines moments before the final horn blew.

Former Thrasher John Sim battles Christoph Schubert for the puck  (AP Photo/Gregory Smith)

Former Thrasher John Sim battles Christoph Schubert for the puck (AP Photo/Gregory Smith)

Ondrej Pavelec returned started in goal and took the loss…he’s now 8-6-3 with a 2.86 GAA and .919 SV% for the season. In his last two games he’s allowed a total of seven goals. In his past five games, he shut out the Detroit Red Wings, but allowed 14 goals the other four. However, he has a .921 SV% in those five games having faced a total of 184 shots…an average of 36.8 per game in that span.

The Thrashers will now embark on a four game road trip that’ll take them to such places as sunny south Florida, cold and snowy Toronto, the Rocky Mountains and Calgary, then off to the Pacific Northwest to play the Vancouver Canucks.

The road has been good for this team so far…they are 8-2-1 away from Philips Arena.

They will return next Saturday to face the Montreal Canadiens before heading back out on the road for two more games…in New York against the Rangers and back to Florida.

Weekend Reading Assignments

Some coaches are finding a certain level of success in their second year behind the bench, as Darren Eliot points out. One of those sophomore coaches is, of course, our very own John Anderson.

Tom Ferda provides his thoughts on the Thrashers’ good start.

The Thrashers and Rich Peverley provided Tom Grigg with his top two “What’s Up With That” spots.

Who were the top-ten NHL coaches of the past decade? Well, here they are according to Puck Daddy’s Sean Leahy.

December is going to be a very busy month…as Daculafan opines over at FanThrashtic. And we aren’t just talkin’ about the holiday gift-buying rush!

And Finally…

Patrik Stefan, meet Rocky Baptiste. Rocky Baptiste… Patrick Stefan.

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Let`s Start the Season

December 4th, 2009
4:35 am

Maybe Mr. Hainsey could fill the role of 7th defenseman. Perhaps the view from the press box could inspire him to cover his man or try to take it away from an opponent. What a lousy effort tonight.

NorthStarsDave

December 4th, 2009
6:35 am

It seems to always be the same when the Thrahers lose….the defense lets the team down….it is not the goaltending….

These early Thursday home games are awful…no energy and no fans….and generally a loss….

TheFan79

December 4th, 2009
6:51 am

4 game wining streak is over.Not let 3-4 games loosing streak begins .
Where are the fans in that building.Almost empty

Zoomo

December 4th, 2009
7:27 am

Maybe the team needs to stay on the road and away from the red jerseys.

Not much hop or punch last night. I didn’t make the game in person, but the lack of fans and energy in the building seemed to effect the team.

We needed to good fight in the 2nd to jump start the team.

On the road again..I just can’t wait to get on the road again…

Zoomo

December 4th, 2009
7:29 am

Is Moulson’s hat trick called a half six pack? A three pack? a good start to happy hour?

stendec

December 4th, 2009
8:02 am

Good morning Bill. Feel sort of like I did after Falcons went bellyup against Carolina Panthers. At least that monumental choke job was not at Georgia Dome! That said…The unavoidable critical issue here is the totally unacceptable going through motions ON HOME ICE! Few fans are able to travel with the team on road. Choke jobs against inferior teams ON HOME ICE will not have folks scrambling to get into Loseland. Such debacles have a completely opposite effect! Suppose the Falcons upset the Saints in Louisiana and Colts in Indiana. Would that justify losses to the Oakland Raiders and Washington Redskins at Georgia Dome? Not to a TRUE fan they would not! Apologist Thrasher fans fail to grasp the overall picture! Foes should dread playing in Atlanta. Most teams consider Philips Milk Of Magnesia Arena a home away from home! That must change on order to put INTELLIGENT hockey fans in seats. Apologists will be there regardless! Thrashers realize there is no accountability for heartless home debacles. Idiot apologists can be damn proud when Thrashers fail to make playoffs because of giveup home ice losses like this one to Islanders which result in zero points. DAMN ISLANDERS! Total bullshet. ++STENDEC++ Any idea on length of losing streak?

Buzzeng

December 4th, 2009
8:04 am

“Moulson Golden” – awesome. I think this busts the much-touted “undefeated when scoring first” streak, too. Hated to see another loss to the Islanders. Also hate that I have one of those maroon jerseys – they seem to be snake-bit when wearing them.

Matt

December 4th, 2009
8:11 am

Sten, Sten…Man, you are just the absolute poster child for fair weather fan. Get some therapy. Seriously, you are clearly not working with a full deck. The team loses ONE game after 4 straight wins and it’s “the sky is falling”. You need an Intervention!

World Be Free

December 4th, 2009
8:13 am

Give the Islanders credit-they played a perfect road game. NY played a great game, finished their checks and skated like heck all night. We also hit a few posts; you have to accept the bad luck to go with your good luck. Seems like whenever the Thrashers lose, we have to find someone to blame on the team. Too many “Chicken Littles” around these days.

Game over, move on to our next opponent

JLH-sorry I missed you last night, I came over after the 1st period and there was nobody in your row in 121. Speaking of nobody, there is still way too many empty seats in the building. Someone recently suggested the Trhashers take the same route the Falcons did to get people in the building, cut prices for every game and make it known to the public. Let’s get some fannies in the seats!

Tom

December 4th, 2009
8:14 am

I almost wish we had a death match between the Thrashers marketing and hockey folks. I am not superstitious but the team plays it’s worst hockey in the Maroon jerseys. We lose 7 more games in them and that might be the difference in making the playoffs. Is it “The Curse of Blueland?”

GaVaHokie

December 4th, 2009
8:14 am

mmm… Molson Golden.

ben

December 4th, 2009
8:15 am

why were there so few people there? i mean you could hear echos on the tv.

five_hole

December 4th, 2009
8:33 am

Can we get the paramedics to Philips Arena? I can’t feel a pulse on the Thrashers. Can someone charge the paddles? ‘Cause they sure rolled over and played dead last night.

I hope JA chews out Hainsey this morning, but it probably won’t happen. JA seems like Mr Nice Guy. Takes it easy on the players. Moulson’s 1st goal was all on Hainsey. I’ve never seen a defenseman at the NHL level back off a player and say “you want to shoot? OK, go ahead”. That was the whoosiest play I’ve watched in the NHL.

At least no one whacked Ondrej with his stick. Hainsey wouldn’t have had the guts and Schubert would have missed.

Jeff

December 4th, 2009
8:44 am

Hey guys,

I know i am not posting very often (although always reading the blog) but this morning I can’t resist. This team has the potential to do very well this season and we all know it. The game last night showed us what NOT to do to lose games we should actually be winning, especially at home.

On 2 of the 3 goals, we didn’t finish with a check on the guy carrying the puck. Kovy didn’t even make an attempt to check Moulson on the first goal, letting him get way to close and giving him way too much time to pick his corner. What are we doing here? Playing Pee-Wee hockey? Same on the third goal, Antropov and Max both leaving the NY Dman alone instead of checking him in the boards which resulted in a nice deflection by Mr Moulson… NY did not outplay us, we outplayed ourselves!

No offense to anyone, but too many europeans on a team is not good…They are afraid to shed a little blood and this makes a big difference when comes playoff time… You need some good canadian beef that will go to war and win you games when you think you’re team has nothing left in the tank.

World Be Free

December 4th, 2009
8:45 am

I prefer Molson Export (”Ex”) or Molson Brabor to Molson Golden.

Open a bottle of Golden and it smells like a skunk entered the room.

OmniFan

December 4th, 2009
8:50 am

At least there were few witnesses for that stinker of a game. No way there were 11000 butts in seats.
Poor Moulson-a hat trick and not a single piece of headgear on the ice.
I would lay the defensive failures last night as much on a lack of backchecking/coverage by forwards as on the D corps-2 uncovered/unblocked shots from the blue line. Didja notice that everything we launched from that distance was blocked?
Islanders played to the textbook on defending against the Thrash-tight man-to man, smother ‘em, don’t give ‘em room to breathe or move. JA needs to come up with an answer to that tactic or we’re in for a lot more nights like the last one.

TrueHockeyFan

December 4th, 2009
8:59 am

Captains lead by example. Kovy was the worst player on the ice. Gave the least amount of effort and seemed not to care.. If I was DW I would trade Kovy while he still has value. He clearly is no]t worth the MEGA BUCKS he wants.

Hockey Biltong

December 4th, 2009
9:05 am

I would not throw my hat for an opposing players hat trick.But there were plenty of Isle fans in the seats. Where were the Thrash fans??????
As JA said, the team sucked no matter what color jersey they were wearing.
WBF- yes!!!- I said the ASG should emulate Mr Blank and get people in the stands asap…We need the crowd noise and energy. It sucks screaming your balls off to make up for the no-shows….

Hockey Biltong

December 4th, 2009
9:06 am

I wonder if Kovys’ play is a result in the breakdown of negotiations????

Rawhide

December 4th, 2009
9:16 am

G’Mornin’ all…it’s a morning to spent next to the coffee maker for me. I attended a pre-scheduled Christmas concert with The Divine Mrs. R and the two tax-exemptions last night…came home and watched the entire debacle on the replay. Typed a few words…then hit the sack for couple short hours of nappy-time.

Not lookin’ for pity…just sayin’…

Anywhooooo… although Mr. Biltong will strongly disagree with me, I say it’s time to burn those maroon unis…ditch ‘em for the rest of the year. We are 0-4-1 in ‘em and they’ve been responsible for ending some nice win streaks! We are 14-4-2 when NOT sporting them.

Again…just sayin’…

TheFan97 & Jeff – Welcome to the discussion!

I wonder if Kovys’ play is a result in the breakdown of negotiations????

Hockey Biltong – BITE YOUR TONGUE!!

World Be Free

December 4th, 2009
9:29 am

You know Biltong, I expected you to chime in on the discussion concerns Molson beers, ales and malts. One of the few benefits of living in Buffalo was the close access to REAL Canadian beers, not the watered-down moose pee they export.

It is always funny to watch someone, anyone try and drink 4 Molson Bradors, then walk a straight line!

Kovy was pissed at the effort last night. I’d like to be a fly on the rink wall at practice this morning!

Jimbo

December 4th, 2009
9:33 am

Moulson Golden- priceless! This may be the first time that I have ever agreed with Stendec, but last night’s performance was horrendous. The Isles hustled. We stood around. The Isles hit. We fell back. To me, it was a total team collapse- no effort, no brains. How many odd man rushes does Hainsey have to give up before he uses his head, or Anderson uses his and sits him down. Thankfully, we now hit the road where we seem to rediscover the “grit” that is lacking on home ice.

Smoothie

December 4th, 2009
9:38 am

WBF – if you want to reminisce about skunky, crappy Molson beer products (and you’re right, Brador’s is pure deliciousness), check out my blog entry here: http://thrashingbirds.blogspot.com/2009/12/moulson-ices-thrashers-hopes-of-fifth.html

I try to take the loss with a bit of humor and it always helps to tip the cap to the other guy (especially Moulson) when they outplay you. But this team is going to drive us crazy with efforts like this — hell they already have just about every Thursday night — and when there is no dramatic comeback or rally then we’re gonna have some frustrated fans. The potential is there to be good, but the D isn’t quite staunch enough and perhaps we do have one or two too many soft Euros…hmmmm.

But then again, the softest of them all is Mr. White Charmin…somebody squeeze him hard and wake him out of his stupor please!

Toby

December 4th, 2009
9:46 am

Ahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! We looked bad one game out of our last 5 and now we’ll lose the rest of the year!!! AHHHHH!!!

Come on folks…we came in winning 4 straight. We had one bad game, and you’d think they just announced we’re moving to Saskatoon. The team will pull themselves back together and all will be right. No worries.

Besides…It’s Friday!!! Bring on the Cats tomorrow!!!!!!

Smoothie

December 4th, 2009
9:46 am

“Kovy was pissed at the effort last night”

WBF – are you saying Kovy was pissed with HIMSELF for a piss-poor effort last night?? He was no better than any of the less-good players on the ice last night like Schubert, Hainsey, White and Armstrong.

BTW, what the hell is wrong with Colby? Is his groin still ornery too? He doesn’t seem to have the jump and “jam” that he normally does. We need his work in the corners to free up time and space for Pevs and Kane. Right now, it ain’t happenin’.

Also, I think the Isles are one of the few teams who may have more overall team speed than us. That is the reason they are able to employ so effectively more “man-to-man” defense and make us pay for errors of judgment when we take a chance and then turnover the puck in a “danger” zone. Against teams like the Isles (CBJ’s, Wild, Devils etc), you need to be willing to chip the puck behind the D and go get it. If you’re not willing to pay the price and win battles, then you might as well not even show up at the rink.

JLH

December 4th, 2009
9:58 am

WBF – Sorry I missed you. I was up bidding on the xmas trees, to no avail, I might add.
I agree with you about the Islanders playing a great game. I don’t remember an odd man rush that we had against them the whole night. They were generally all over the puck and in position defensively.
I think Anderson was also outcoached – I couldn’t believe he continued to put Nik, Max and Kovy out there against Moulson’s line (I know, he’s not the center) in the third period, after their success for the 1st 2 periods. He even did it on face-offs in our own zone/end. Kovy deserved his -3, as he was at the top of his “OLE’” game all night, which was pretty disheartening to see from our Kaptain.
JEFF & OMNIFAN – I agree with you, it was the lack of backchecking, not our defensemen. On Moulson’s 1st goal Hainsey had to back off, after Kovy’s disappearing act, because NY had a forward pushing toward the net. I could see him swat the puck away after the goal, mumbling under his breath. He had to be frustrated with Kovy.

drajax

December 4th, 2009
9:59 am

Last night the place was dead, whether it was because of the team’s lackadaisical play or the lack of fans who knows? The fans need more spirited play over a full 60 minutes. The team hasn’t been able to consistently deliver on this premise for as long as I can remember. Ultimately sports is entertainment and the Thrashers have not been consistently entertaining. It won’t matter whether the jerseys are striped or the games start at 7:30 if the product put out is lifeless for two thirds or more of the game. Our best player appears to be either hurting or tired and the team seems to mirror his play. Maybe an instigator would help light a fire on nights like yesterday.

LAC

December 4th, 2009
10:04 am

Gee “matt” seems you have nothing to say unless you are complaining about another blogger, Grow Up !

POOR effort, NO Fans, I really think they see ALL those empty seats and think The Fans don’t come, so why should we care… Sure looked that way last night.

The Glads have better attendence than Thrashers… Sad…

hip czech

December 4th, 2009
10:27 am

Could see the Moulsen Golden coming…Molson Golden is one of the worst beers in the world, causes a wicked hangover (almost as bad as a Genny Screamer hangover). Living in Upstate NY we would make treks into the Great White to pick up cases of Brador. THAT was good stuff, my goodness, 6.8%!!

Not to pick on any other blogger, but Matt IS correct…three things in life are certain – death, taxes, and a post from stendec after a loss. Where has he been during the 4 game win streak?

j nes

December 4th, 2009
10:30 am

10 Reasons to ditch the red jerseys

1. 0-4-1 record. Hockey players are known to be superstitious; it is possible that these hideous fashion faux pas have gotten into the back of some players heads. At any level in sports, confidence is crucial.

2. They are ugly. The explanation I read was that they design team was trying to appeal to the football fans by implementing a football type design with numbers on the front and the illusion of short sleeves. EPIC FAIL. These jerseys recently made the top ten list of ugliest jerseys of the decade (yahoo’s puck daddy blog).

3. When they play the Capitals, Senators, and Huricanes (scheduled for thursdays) it becomes difficult for novice fans to distinguish between the two teams. Hockey is the fastest game on earth. There is no reason to make it any more difficult to follow than necessary.

4. This is Blueland! Apparently the Atlanta Spirit marketing team was bent on proving themselves to be as boneheaded as the ownership group.

5. The old 3rd Jerseys (the ultimate warrior design if you will) were/are awesome. I still sport mine. The color scheme is similar to Florida, but the sweet T-bird logo makes up for that.

6. Kovalchuck hates them (E5). –I can neither confirm nor deny this report, but I can’t imagine he likes them.

7. J-Bird thinks the red clashes with his white turtlenecks.

8. This is Blueland!

9. When other teams start calling our top line “the reds,” the federal government might start getting suspicious.

10. This is Blueland!

Bob

December 4th, 2009
10:35 am

The poor defensive play that we’ve seen manifest itself in being outshot so far this year, showed it’s ugly head last night.

Over the long haul of the season, and especially as all the clubs turn it up a notch after the Olympic Break, our defense needs to tighten up exponentially, or we’re going to see a lot more nights like last night.

The seats are empty for one reason, the fans have been turned off by 9 years of Waddell’s mismanagement. People fall into habits, I heard it from many of my former season ticket holder neighbors in years past. They’d get sick of Waddell and a few would drop out after the 4th year, few more after the 5th, etc. I’d see them come back for a game or two in subsequent years and ask them “when are you going to come back”. The answer I always got was “when they get rid of Waddell” and they’d also tell me that once they dropped the season tix, they didn’t miss it as much (the driving down there night after night in that traffic). I am in that boat now, I got home from work about 6:30, played with the kids, ate some dinner, and turned the DVR on after the kids went to bed and watched the game for a while. Did not miss anything driving down there. We’ll make a Sat. night game this month, but the club really has dug themselves quite a hole with the fans by retaining an incompetent GM year after year and sucking every year. It’s going to take a long time for them to dig out of it and get the season ticket holder base built back up. They need an identity change to spark things.

j nes

December 4th, 2009
10:36 am

hip czech–you worry about hangovers but you drink 6.8% beer. More power to you. For the record I have never had Brador.

hip czech

December 4th, 2009
10:46 am

I don’t know what it was, but the Molsen Golden and Genny Creamers not only were bad (though cheap, which was the main draw for a college student) but in particular those beers would produce very bad mornings, very bad…

The Brador was the closest thing back then to the micro brews now. It was a good beer (and had the higher alcohol content, which was also a good thing for a college kid), do they still make it?

Agree on the Kovalchuk effort last night, the first goal was all on him. Would JA have the guts to sit him after that poor defensive effort? I don’t know if I agree about too many Europeans being bad, I see the point but Max and Antropov are OK defensively. Antropov is slow, that’s his main draw back. But Max and Antropov at least put effort into the defensive end. Kovalchuk SEEMED to be better last year…the last few games he has reverted back to the Kovy model of 3 or 4 years ago.

Jeff Craig

December 4th, 2009
10:56 am

First burn the RED Jerseys! Second how many times do we have to hear or read from the coaches and players how embarrassing or we weren’t ready to fight tonight in an interview.

Smoothie

December 4th, 2009
11:02 am

hip czech – I certainly don’t want it to seem like I’m throwing all Euros under the bus for lack of grit etc. However, there is something to the fact our beloved European players don’t like to crash the net very much. While Antro gets in front of the goalie, he never looks like he’s working particularly hard to get to loose pucks. Perhaps he’s just so big and awkard that it’s tough for him to extricate his long stick from congestion, but I’d like to see a few more power moves to the net like the one in the 3rd period.

Max Afinogenov is actually our hardest working Euro right now! Did I just type that? Actually, I’ve been impressed with his willingness to do some hitting in the corners and he back-checks pretty consistently. No one is asking Kovy to lower his shoulder all the time or dive in front of loose pucks, but he could actually back-check now and then to make it tougher on teams just inside the blueline. The centers are having to work too hard to make up for the wingers inconsistencies. In fact, they should just put together a training video using all of the footage of Bryan Little (save for his post-ringing wrister from the slot) playing hockey last night on how to play a very solid 2-way game.

Thinking back to the finish of the Panthers game, I liked the way Kane worked with Finny and Antro to get that chance to win the game. Obvs, Kovy was on the ice in the end-of-game situation and his presence demands attention from the D, but I’m growing weary of his extra long shifts that lead to breakdowns because he doesn’t put forth the effort to stop the puck-handler. I bet half of White’s minus 8 could be attributed to getting stuck out there with Kovy and Finny after Antro has left for a line change.

How about Kane – Antro – Max as the 2nd line with Kovy – White – Little rekindling some magic from the end of last year as the first? Then you still have Kozzy – Pevs – Army (our best overall line in the last 30 games last season) as the “3rd line” to exploit mis-matches.

GaVaHokie

December 4th, 2009
11:05 am

The only guys we checked last night were our own players… I knew it was going to be a long night when Kovy, Max, Antro and Salmela kept running into each other.

GaVaHokie

December 4th, 2009
11:07 am

Reason #7
J-Bird thinks the red clashes with his white turtlenecks

I almost spit coffee all over my computer screen…lol

GaVaHokie

December 4th, 2009
11:11 am

The red jerseys are still much better than the Dallas Stars “uterus” jerseys…

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/4/18/th_128845888491493934.jpg

hip czech

December 4th, 2009
11:12 am

The Nashville blogger and one of the Thrashers bloggers (sorry, forget which one) were speculating on the fact that Dudley and another person from the Thrashers have been scouting Pred games lately. They went on to discuss the possibility that the player Atlanta might move would be Little.

I don’t know if we give up on him yet. He’s young, cheap, and has shown that he has the ability to score goals in this league. Now, moving White might fly if Nashville would go for that.

I kind of like the Kovy-White-Little scenario. Little would have a lot on him defensively, for sure. But it might help Little offensively and might make White and Kovalchuk more responsible on the defensive end.

Definitely bring back the old 3rd jersey…

Spud Webb

December 4th, 2009
11:28 am

WBF, classic man. I took my ex-wife up home once, went to toronto & gave her some molsens, ahhahahahhahahhahahha. God that beer is GREAT. 3 beers and she was sloppy!!! I said welcome to Canada!!!
A few notes, Kovys line, I believe -8. They’ll have some GREAT games, but the overall lack of responsability defensively will KILL us in some games. I don’t hear anyone saying “sign Max” now today?? Yes, Hainsey didn’t have a good game, but we MUST have better production on D from our top line. NO TWO WAYS ABOUT IT!!! -8 is unacceptable.
I think Kovys foot is still hurt, just my opinion and not making excuses, something isn’t right.
On the Islanders, this is a team that I now believe is 11-10-2. They know that EVERY single night they’ll have to bust their &sses, they know they don’t have the talent to “cash it in”. Jon Sim is a prime example of this. Until we (thrashers) decide to play like that every single night, we will drop games like this occasionally.
Also, Stendec, the sky isn’t falling, take it easy. I’m guessing you’ve never picked up a hockey stick in your life?? The little ones they used to give out at the games do NOT count!!!!
Frogs 2, Sabres 6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOVE IT…

Furmanisanidiot

December 4th, 2009
11:31 am

Phillips will look fairly vacant most of the year on the weekday games because the people that came to those games in the past were season ticket holders(everyone else waits for weekend games) and since WADDELL has personally lost 75 percent of the season ticket holders over the last 3 years(really 10) those seat will not be full. If it wasn’t for the season ticket holders phillip will have always look like this or close to it for every weekday game in the past also….there is no way to fix this problem this year. Keep winning and it will help some later in the season but not now. I go to the games and its very sad, but its also just a 2 block walk for me. AND get rid of those damn Red Jerseys in BLUELAND

GaVaHokie

December 4th, 2009
12:11 pm

Actually, I’m more for keeping the Red jerseys and getting rid of “Blueland”.

Thrashers27

December 4th, 2009
12:24 pm

Start the Season,

I’ll second any motion to send Hainsey packing. The guy is just smelling up the joint lately. I’d rather see Schubert filling his second line role and have Ronsey sitting up in the rafters. Hell, bring Postma up and see what he’s all about. Even through the four-game winning streak he was sucking. Sit him, coach.

I would love the red sweaters if they had incorporated the old Road Warrior crest. That would be sweet!

Paminski

December 4th, 2009
12:34 pm

The Isles had great energy and the Thrash did not. I enjoyed watching the Isles though would have preferred their loss of course. At first, our individual effort was decent, team effort not so much. By five minutes into the 3rd, our guys couldn’t even see the puck, let alone hit it. They acted like they all had the flu, with Finny and Enstrom possibly the exceptions.

On another note, great seats in 104, but you somehow feel like you’re not supposed to cheer over there. It’s like all the guys in sport coats might smack you over the head with a rolled-up program.

World Be Free

December 4th, 2009
12:37 pm

Hip Czech-Genny Cream Ale? Almost as bad as Utica Club Cream Ale! The price was right. Give me one case of Genny “Pounders” for the weekend!

I think the entire team came to “not play” last night. Toss in the Islanders’ effort and you have a loss, home or away. I have played in games when you get the feeling the team just doesn’t have it that night. Add to the problem of having 5-6 guys on this team that are not playing at an acceptable level. Hainsey, Army and few others. Colby needs to start hitting again. I still think Kovy’s foot is hindering his play somewhat. Like I said, I’d like to hear what’s said at today’s practice.

Todd White is Todd White. He’s never going to be better than he is today. He is not big and he doesn’t fight. He’s a 2nd, maybe 3rd line center.

I have chosen to ignore the bloggers who are always negative. I don’t believe you have to be warm and fuzzy all the time, there are areas that still need to be addressed. Most bloggers that are negative all the time are just looking for attention.

J nes-nice list, especially the “reds” reference. I don’t like the 3rd jerseys-I think we can do better on a 3rd jersey.

Bob-I understand that people don’t like Don. Nobody is paying to see Don play-he’s not on the ice. This is a pretty good hockey team most nights. There’s a few players not pulling their weight and ultimately they need to be dealt with. I have been to alotta bad hockey games over the past 40 years, but still came back again because I love the sport. Darcy Regier doesn’t even take calls on Buffalo sports on call in shows-people dislike him so much! But the house is full every night.

World Be Free

December 4th, 2009
12:43 pm

Spud-Back in the 80’s, my wife and I used to do to the Molson Slow Pitch Classics in Niagara Falls, Ontario. The NHL players would play softball for charity. Players were so accessible, as was the Molson Export! Bring your Canadian money because they were not giving exchange on your USD!

What great times, met guys like Larry Playfair (one ugly dude), Lanny MacDonald, Bernie Nichols and Mickey Redmond, all great dudes. Gretzky was swarmed by all the kids, he signed autographs for hours.

I miss that stuff.

World Be Free

December 4th, 2009
12:45 pm

Paminski-did you get your Maytag Fries at Buckhead Diner?
French fries covered in hot blue cheese.

Nate

December 4th, 2009
12:45 pm

Agree with others. Burn the maroon jerseys and go back to the old road jerseys. I know some hate the “Batman” logo jerseys, but it’s always been my favorite. Remember the blue jerseys were originally a third jersey before they were adopted as the home jersey for the “Blueland” theme. And then promplty ditched the Batman logo jerseys for the burn in hell maroon jerseys. Marketing genius I’d say…

Smoothie

December 4th, 2009
12:49 pm

WBF – did I become one of your “negative” posters? I noticed you responded to everyone but me and I was curious about your Kovy comments (see above). Not that I’m attention starved, but I appreciate your perspective and insight. Just don’t wanna be in the WBF “dog house”! :wink: Also thought you might have some choice comments about that special brand of piss-water beer: Molson Ice! Ewwwww!

hip czech

December 4th, 2009
12:53 pm

I broke one of my cardinal rules of fantasy hockey last night…normally I start anyone playing the Thrashers, the thought being, well, if the Thrashers have to lose then at least my fantasy team benefits.

I had to sit one winger last night, it came down to either James van Riemsdyk or Matt Moulson. Bad, bad, choice. Not only do the Thrashers lose, but I have a hat trick sitting on my bench.

Molson Export was a decent beer…definitely better than Golden but it still is a green bottle skunky beer.

World Be Free

December 4th, 2009
1:01 pm

Smoothie-you are cool, excellent contributor and insight. Kovy was way off last night. Right on about Molson Ice-what were they thinking?

Another good one-Canadian-brewed Carlsburg. “Let’s have a Carlsburg for me and my friends”. You can’t have a hockey blog without talking about Canadian beer. Bill started it.

DWTOO

December 4th, 2009
1:07 pm

Genny Cream Ale – get a headache just thinking about it. Drank a few gallaons of this stuff in my younger days. Cheap beer is cheap beer.

Speaking of “reds” has anyone noticed the Dr. Stangelove clip on the Jumbotron. They cut Slim Pickens off right as he’s about to say “looks like nuclear combat with the Rooskies” (or something like that). Wonder what our Russian players would think about that? Also, think we could superimpose Waddell’s head on Slim Pickens riding the bomb? That would be fitting!

World Be Free

December 4th, 2009
1:10 pm

DWTOO-saw that and thought the reference was strange. On the “Young Frankenstein” references, good thing we do’t have any players from Transylvania. I can’t relate Gene Wilder to hockey.

They need some Arnold or Stallone clips. Yo Adrian!

Darren

December 4th, 2009
1:49 pm

I think some people are reading just a wee bit much into the game last night.

Folks, it was ONE GAME!

A game in which they were going for FIVE wins in a row. Don’t y’all remember just a short time ago how five wins in a row would have seemed impossible?

Yes, the effort after the first wasn’t acceptable. Yes, the red jerseys are terrible.

But folks, try to keep the big picture in mind here. Atlanta’s got almost the exact same record they had at this point in 05-06, when they made the playoffs. And all I need to say about that is J.P. Vigier was prominently involved on that team.

This team is good, and will play many more games with much more effort.

Spud Webb

December 4th, 2009
2:04 pm

DWTOO & WBF, good times, great stories. I crap you not I was at taco mac up here in cumming Sunday. Drinking my normal molsen canadian and I saw a genny and mixed it in!!! hahahahhahahahah, my buddies we’re all giggling!!!! &ss, but who cares!!!!
I miss JP Vigier, that was a GREAT guy.

World Be Free

December 4th, 2009
2:24 pm

Spud-that’s like mixing Cindy Crawford with Roseanne Barr. Betcha it was a great time! Taco Mac has it all! Do they have Koch’s too?

Bob

December 4th, 2009
2:42 pm

Genny Cream Ale. That was the only beer in college I’d turn my nose up at, oh, that stuff was bad. First beer I got drunk off of was Molson Golden, skunky like someone just brought some kind in from Marin.

Anyone ever drink Mickey’s Big Mouth? That stuff was stout, for a high school kid anyway.

I want to know who we’re scouting in Nashville? Looking for “anyone” to take for White? That would move Peverly to the 2nd line permanently and then you can move Reasoner to the third line and have Slater center the 4th.

Smoothie

December 4th, 2009
3:04 pm

Bob, how about Joel Ward?? That would add some sandpaper to that 3rd line! Then you could have the Little Black Russian line!

Kovy – Antro – Max

Kane – Pevs – Army

Kozzy – Little – Ward

Gods + Reasoner

hip czech

December 4th, 2009
3:12 pm

Bob, the Nashville people were speculating Ryan Jones on their end, who I believe was a fairly high round draft pick a few years back.

here’s the post:
http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2009/12/2/1182652/lets-start-a-trade-rumor-the?ref=CBS

World Be Free

December 4th, 2009
3:40 pm

Bob-no but Mickey’s, it sounds kinda nasty.

Sounds like a bad one in line with Iron City, Iron City Light (what’s the point?), Koch’s, Duke, Utica Club, Schmidt’s, Goebels and Narragansett (for our friends in Boston-gotta keep the Chowder Heads happy).

LAC

December 4th, 2009
3:42 pm

Bob & Furman you guys are 100% correct. I dropped my tickets after year seven… Main reason waddell is an IDIOT, who has no knowledge for the game and is THE Joke of the NHL ! He has ruined this team and is quickly running hockey OUT of Atlanta again !

I have not seen enough reason to be all that impressed with what we have now, still too many floaters, white/little/hanisey… Just guys collecting a paycheck and nothing more.

It’s now LESS than three weeks away from Christmas… Remember those
“famous” words of our Idiot GM, concerning #17, and I QUOTE…

“We will not be talking about this at Christmas.” Well we still are and so is the entire NHL, teams are chopping at the bits to sign Ilya and waddell has done not one DAMN thing, let alone be honest with the fans.

So #17 will be gone and if that is NOT enough reason to fire waddell what is ? These stupid non NHL owners need to realize once and for all, waddell is THE PROBLEM with the empty seats… Until he is GONE, it will get more empty I am afraid !

Paminski

December 4th, 2009
5:05 pm

WBF – I didn’t have them at the Diner, but I’ve had the ones at TJ’s. I probably could have slain a small child with my breath alone after.

NASCAR Dave

December 4th, 2009
5:29 pm

HAINSEY and WHITE need to be traded, ASAP!!! Enough of these HALF-A$$ EFFORTS!!!

12345

December 4th, 2009
8:06 pm

Maybe the team will win Saturday in Florida, since there will be more people in the stands. This attendence thing could cause the Thrashers to say, we cannot afford Ilya… Think about it… Really.
Not signing him and the team is as good as gone.

Alan R.

December 4th, 2009
8:25 pm

The Flyers fired coach Stevens, and hired Laviolette. All in the same day. This opens the door for a firing in Carolina, should they not pick up the pace.

Very interesting. See here.

R. Stroz

December 5th, 2009
12:04 am

The attendence “thing” isn’t limited to the Thrashers. I just returned from the Hawks game tonight and the upper deck was sparsely populated.

I’m of the belief that the attendence problem is largely a discretionary spending issue. People are sitting on their wallets due to a variety of reasons, not the least of which is job security.

Hockey Biltong

December 5th, 2009
12:51 am

R.Stroz I agree. Folks are holding on to their money.
WBF- Brooklyn Double Chocolate Stout. Don’t waste my time with anything less than oh, say, 8% beer. It’s like being in a canoe ya know>>>>>

Brendan

December 5th, 2009
12:51 am

Doesn’t it seem, well … AMAZING … that a certifiable idiot like Charles Wang, at least in “hockey terms,” has overseen the Islanders to an above .500 mark, this late into the season?

Before you agree or DISAGREE, I ask you to consider something. Ready? Are you ready, right here … RIGHT NOW … to admit that Charles Wang knows more about hockey than YOU do? C’mon now. Don’t be bashful. Let’s get those hands high … HIIIIGH UP in the air?

And yet, … and YET … his decisions, including to hire Garth Snow, a player/goalie to be the GM, with absolutely no prior experience running so much as a LEMONADE STAND business, much less a major professional sports team, has the Islanders in playoff position, with over a QUARTER (1/4) of the season in the books. Somewhere Neil Smith, the fired Islander GM, after serving just 41 days in office, just hacked up a hair ball. Could it be, that Charles Wang’s policy of “ruling by committee,” is a raging success after all? Neil Smith was relieved of his GM duties when he disagreed with an equipment manager hire by then Head Coach, Ted Nolan. Smith held the notion that personnel decisions were to be made by the GM, alone. I’m not sure, but I think Smith and Nolan’s salaries have finally now come off the Islanders books, along with Pat LaFontaine’s, who also “resigned” during that epoch of the franchise’s history.

How fortunate, for the Islanders, that a player the caliber of Josh Bailey was still there for them, at pick #9 in the 2008 draft, after passing TWICE on picks #5 and #7, to stockpile ‘throw away’ draft picks. How fortunate that picks like Kyle Okposo (7th overall) and John Tavares, (1st overall,) along with another former 1st rounder, Sean Bergenheim, have allowed the team to succeed despite such decisions as … not buying out Alexei Yashin until Year Two of the post-Lockout, signing Rick DiPietro to a 15-year deal, (is he FINALLY back from his injury yet?), and building an NHL roster with Thrasher castoffs, like Jon Sim and Andy Sutton, among other teams’ rejects, like Richard Park, which suddenly comes to mind.

Yes, despite being the ‘laughing stock’ owner of the NHL, Charles Wang, after misstep after misstep … after missstep … has his team in, or hovering around, a playoff berth. And, as a matter of FACTUAL ACCURACY, Charles Wang’s Islanders DO OWN a playoff win, since the Lockout. It came against Buffalo, in 2007. The Islanders were defeated in five games by the Sabres that year.

When you take a long, hard look at the Islanders … and then decide to take any of a handful of regular AJC bloggers, toss their names into a drum, spin it around a few times, and select one, would they be any WORSE off? Don’t answer. Now ask yourself, would they be any BETTER off? Stunning, isn’t it? The Islanders succeed, despite IDIOCY. Turning to Simpsons’ vernacular, they are guilty of, “Pulling a Homer.” Is the Islanders success, a “fluke?” Or, is it really ‘just that easy,’ to take a failing franchise … and rebuild it … via the waiver wire, other teams’ castoffs, and by taking what the lottery draft affords you?

I smell a GEICO Caveman commercial. “So easy, that even Charles Wang can do it.” One 15-minute phone call to Charles Wang could save your loser franchise a playoff berth, within two years (TM, GEICO Insurance, all rights reserved).

World Be Free

December 5th, 2009
7:04 am

Biltong-Brooklyn Double Chocolate Stout?
So Molson Brador or John Labatt’s Extra Stock are “light” beers for you!

World Be Free

December 5th, 2009
7:23 am

Paminiski-Maytag fries are like doughnuts to me–I love ‘em but they conflict with my diet. Besides, my wife likes them too (I have to share)!

You know Brendan, we have seen a couple of owners in sports that make good, even though we know the owners are idiots. Al Davis comes to mind, along with these bozos that own the Braves.

Remember that Wang was the guy who hired Mike Milbury. When you look at the players Milbury traded and his performance as a GM, you wonder who any network can sign him and put Milbury on TV to judge anyone’s performance! What would the Islanders have been had they just stood pat with the players they had, instead of letting idiot Milbury make some of the worst trades in NHL history.

Having said this, you have to say the Snow hiring in New York was a very good one. Garth Snow has done a great job doing 2 things- 1) Drafting safe players (the guys you listed), he does not reach for a potential stars. 2) Trading picks to get more picks, the law of averages is on his side with multiple picks.

Look at Martin Biron; Snow signed him to a 1 year deal last summer at a bargin basement price. Snow will parlay Biron into a 2nd or 3rd round pick after January 1, probably from Buffalo. He gets something for nothing. I never saw Snow as a GM, but he must have been lobbying for the job for a long time.

Seems like Wang has learned to leave the guy alone to do his job, which is so crucial for any manager in any profession. Rumor has it that Wang may actually give Snow some $$$ to improve the team for a playoff run.

Petty Officer Thrash, USN

December 5th, 2009
11:27 am

STOP WEARING THE RED JERSEYS!!! Chuck ‘em. Throw them out the door. Put them in the trash. I don’t care where they go, but get rid of them! They have a horrible record, and they’re REALLY ugly. Bring back the old home jerseys if you want a good alternate.

Rawhide

December 5th, 2009
11:54 am

Petty Officer Thrash, USN – Assuming you are indeed Navy…where are you stationed out of, sailor?

Do you operate on, above or below the surface?

goose

December 5th, 2009
12:32 pm

Tsn has Kovy and Kubina as questionable for tonight’s game both with illness
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/injuries/

Dwayne

December 5th, 2009
2:46 pm

I ran the 5K Savannah River Bridge run this morning. I hope the Thrashers put half as much effort in the game tonight as I did today. We need to start this roadie off with a win.

Hockey Biltong

December 5th, 2009
2:48 pm

WBF – when I get my hands on your fine beer choices, I will relish the opportunity to enjoy for the first time, what you have been enjoying for a while.
On a side note, my nephew is driving back from Montana with 64 Growler IPA’s which he sez is an excellent beer. I will be sampling somma doz too!!!
The rest of yuze;
I paid good money for my RED Jersey wich looks way better than the blue one and not as good as the original gold one…JA says the team will play better next time in red, so there.

R. Stroz

December 5th, 2009
6:55 pm

Pardon the Interruption:

Do you know what the problem is with University of Florida fans?

They all have the clap.

Brendan

December 5th, 2009
8:24 pm

WBF, it is amazing that Al Davis has two Super Bowl rings, as an owner. Al Davis is the mule with the spinning wheel. No one knows how he got. And darned if he knows how to use it. I guess Charles Wang’s next big project is getting the Islanders a new rink. Presummably, he will ask the tax payers to finance it. Or, at least partly finance it. Funny thing is … doesn’t Wang have the money to do this himself? He’s the one who stands to make the most profit off a new stadium. But, my guess is … he’ll ‘threaten’ to relocate the team if the tax payers don’t foot the bill. Wouldn’t it be great if the tax payers then got a percentage of the profits? Some crickets chirp … some tumble weeds roll past, and off in the distance … a coyote howls. I guess not.

Moving right along, tonight’s game has gotten a bit “chippy.” Eric Boulton threw some punches. Toby Enstrom got bloodied. The Thrashers have been on the PP for most of the 2nd period. With nothing to show for it. They had a 5 minute major, for the assault on Toby Enstrom. Vokoun is having a good game. Moose Hedberg has stood on his head for a few saves tonight. It’s still scoreless, with 8:00 left in the 2nd.

GaVaHokie

December 5th, 2009
9:32 pm

stendec

December 5th, 2009
10:08 pm

Moose was magnificent! Only one regulation goal surrendered. Save in overtime was grand larceny! Teammates sort of bailed him out in shootout. As did iron! Deserved two points. Captain Ilya Kovalchuk deadlocked score with around a minute to play! Thrashers continue to hit iron instead of twine. Totally frustrating! Two points are two points. Sure as Hell beats pathetic Islander showing. Congratulations! ++STENDEC++ AN ASIDE – Power play sucks out loud. Horrible!

stendec

December 5th, 2009
11:50 pm

Alabama earned a national title shot! Obvious biased officiating crew in Texas GAVE Longhorns one. Too bad Tide will embarrass SEC. Again! Sorry Bill, had to vent that football one. GO THRASHERS! Keep up great work. ++STENDEC++

World Be Free

December 6th, 2009
2:24 pm

I can’t believe I am agreeing with Stendec on something. Texas has no business being in the national championship game after last night. To bad for the Cornhuskers, blame their kicker for kicking the ball out of bounds on the final kickoff. I hope Alabama scores a 100 points on them.

Brendan, in the early days, Al Davis knew how to get good football people to come in a run the Raiders on the field. But the game passed him by 25 years ago. They have had some good teams, but none like those early Raider teams.

I wish we could get highlights of the old AFL games, or even early NFL games after the merger. My football hero growing uo was Dayle Lamonica, back to his Bills days. Still can’t believe the Bills trading Lamonica for Tom Flores. Flores was a bum as a QB. NFL Network rarely plays any “classic game” older than 5 years.