Would starting weeknight Thrashers games 30 minutes later really make a difference?

One of the topics that pops up every now and then on these blogs is the subject of weeknight start times. As you know, Thrashers games normally are scheduled to begin at 7:00 during the weeknights…that translates to a puck-drop of around 7:10. But many people have expressed their desire to have this moved back 30 minutes to 7:30…dropping the puck at about 7:40-ish.

The reason for this is very simple…with so many fans living outside the perimeter, (or OTP), getting from their places of employment to the games is a challenge. This is complicated even further if they are to swing by the house to pick up the spouse and/or kids. That extra 30 minutes, they say, will make all the difference in the world between being able to get to weeknight games and not being able to do so.

I can certainly appreciate that.

Of course, that translates into more dollars being parted ways with for tickets…not to mention parking, souvenirs, food and drink.

However, the trade off here is when the game ends keeping these same fans out 30 minutes later than usual. If the kids are of school age, then that means they are getting to bed 30 minutes later than normal in order to get up for school the next morning.

As a parent, I definitely can appreciate that as well.

When would you like to see Thrashers games begin during the week?

  • 7:00 pm (31%, 33 Votes)
  • 7:30 pm (69%, 74 Votes)

Total Voters: 107

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For me, if a game starts at or shortly after 7:00, then I know a regulation game will be over at about 9:30-ish. Under normal circumstances, that means I will be back home in the Kennesaw/Acworth area sometime around 10:15 or 10:30…although most of the time it’s later for me since I like attend the Taco Mac post-game show for a while. I’m sure, however, that those in the Roswell/Alpharetta or Duluth areas have the same ETAs.

Start a game at 7:30, and that pushed the home arrival to about 10:45 or 11:00. That’s no problem for me even if I have the tax exemptions with me… given that they are 17 and 16 years of age…so for yours truly, it really makes no difference whatsoever. But again, that could be different for those who have young-uns in the elementary school age.

So personally, it doesn’t matter if the start at 7:00 or 7:30…but what I’m looking for here is your opinion. I know regulars will chime in, however I’m also hoping that the many lurkers we have will do so as well as I’m sure the fine people who consider such things inside the organization would very much value your input.

Now, is there something we can point to…a game that started any other time during the week than 7:00…to use as a “for instance” when debating start times for Thrashers games?

Well, I’m glad you ask…as a matter of fact there is. See, there was a Wednesday game against the Ottawa Senators played just last season that was televised nationally in Canada. For that reason, the game here in Atlanta was slated for 7:30. I was there that night…a 3-2 loss to the Sens.

I remember anticipating going to that game for two reasons. One…I wanted to see this new kid the Thrashers had just plucked off the waiver wire by the name of Rich Peverley…and two, I was curious to see whether or not moving the start time back 30 minutes would indeed make a difference in the crowd size.

To be honest, there really was no noticeable difference than any other weeknight game that season. The “announced” attendance…14,163.

Of course I use “quotes” around the word attendance because what normally is “announced” is not always indicative of “how many” fans attended…but that’s a subject for another day.

Regardless, I did a little digging into other weeknight games just before and just after that January 14th one and looked at the attendance numbers from those games that were played during the week but started at the normal time of 7:00.

Here is what I found from that small sampling:

Wednesday December 10 vs. NYR, (3-2 OTL): 13,704

Tuesday January 20 vs. Montreal, (4-2 W): 13,076

Wednesday February 11 vs. Chicago, (3-1 L): 14,029

Tuesday February 24 vs. Colorado, (4-3 W): 12,101

Thursday March 26 vs. vs. NYR, (5-4 SOW) 13,157

Wednesday April 1 vs. Buffalo, (4-3 OTW): 15,038

The average announced attendance for those six games in the sample is 13,517…646 less than the Wednesday January 14 game against Ottawa that started at 7:30. Obviously this isn’t a scientific study by any means, but like I said…I was there in January 14 and I remember that the start time played no visible role in boosting the number of fans in attendance.

Obviously this isn’t a “scientific” study by any means and, admittedly…its just one game. But at least it is something to use in comparison to the normal 7:00 start time.

And I’ll add this in closing… when it comes to attendance, there is this other line of thought that goes…”win and they will come”. And that, my friends, is ultimately the side that I fall on. The more this team wins consistently…and wins consistently at home…the less and less it’ll matter what time the puck  drops.

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Greg

November 6th, 2009
11:53 pm

While I have no real data to contribute to the discussion, I am someone that would attend FAR more games if they started at 7:30. As it is now I pretty much only go to the weekend games.

I tend to leave my office around 6, have a carpool to drop off, and by the time I am back at my place it is 6:45. With Marta I can be at the game by 7:20 or so. So on weekdays I currently have the choice between going to the game, paying for a ticket, and arriving late, or simply going home and watching the game on TV? I love watching hockey in person, but guess which one usually wins?

Brendan

November 7th, 2009
3:47 am

Good discussions on the start times for games. The thing that I liked about the 7PM start, and remember I’m someone who prefers 7:30, was that if I went to a game alone, and knew ahead of time that that would be the case, I could go straight from work to the game, just throwing a jersey over my head. (Note: Always keep a Thrasher jersey in your car or at work, just for such occasions.) Philips Arena, for much of the past 5-6 years, was less than 25 minutes from my place of business. Even with bad traffic. On those days, I’d actually work late, and leave around 6:30, arriving right at puck drop. If the game ended at 9:40, I’d be home by 10:30, at the latest.

Which leads me to this thought: “Maybe the Thrashers are catering to the non-married persons, or childless couples, who are more apt to have disposable income?” Sometimes, leaving directly from work worked best for me. It made attending weeknight games very easy. And, answering truthfully, the 7PM start worked best in those instances. So, I can see that, by catering to childless persons, married or otherwise, 7PM was the Thrashers’ start time of choice.

A possible solution not yet suggested, lest I missed it, was a compromise, splitting the difference, for a 7:15PM puck drop. What do you think of that? For those returning home to pick up kids, this doesn’t help all that much. But it’s better than 7PM. For the young professionals crowd, that leaves from work right to the arena, it’s only 15 more minutes to wait for puck drop. More time for you to socialize in the CNN foodcourt.

Bluenote

November 7th, 2009
9:18 am

The big idea here is win home games and this issue disappears.

Have been asked for preferences several times on this by STRs and consistently stated preference for 7:00 starts. Blame me 730istas.

Reasons being this has made it possible for growing deductions to attend games on school nights. Faced with the choice between supporting academics and seeing some of the NHL’s best, we’ve consistently made the irresponsible choice. They’re older now so it matters less

Another angle here is attracting more young hockey players (or wannabes) to attend games on weeknights. OK, it’s hundreds, not thousands of potential butts in seats, but long-term, the team has to consider how to attract new viewers. Being able to attend weeknight games AND make school the next morning has been a strong plus for 2 deductions at my house.

Have heard consistently the 52/48 split so this debate will rage forever.

Red jerseys, start times, better food or intermission entertainment really have very little to do with the end result. Win at home and this debate goes away.

Glad to hear the encouraging news on your brother Rawhide. Good kharma and prayers answered. Sorry to miss the festivities tonight at TJ’s…previous social obligations with Shehomustbeobeyed. Raincheck please.

jcwhitingjr

November 7th, 2009
11:57 am

I was lying in bed trying to go to sleep last night and remembered a two part blog that you did recently, Rawhide. I believe Tim Ecclestone hit the nail on the head as far as how to get butts in the seats at the Bulb in that interview.

If you’re looking to build attendance in most non-traditional markets you have to win. Short of that if you want butts in the seats you have to have a team that plays a game more like football on ice as opposed to futbol on ice. Those of us who love hockey are going to be at the games no matter what. Those that aren’t as well versed in the hockey way need something more to bring them in and in a football mad area you have to try and highlight the similarities between football and hockey.

hip czech

November 7th, 2009
4:30 pm

Take Eklund rumors with a giant grain of salt…but two interesting comments:

“The Thrashers are talking turkey with the Hawks about Patrick Sharp. it is getting much more serious according to my sources than I thought it would get this early in the year.

Marty Biron could VERY soon be headed back to Buffalo with Rick DiPietro closer than anyone knows to returning… Biron also has interest from Detroit and Atlanta.”

What would it take to land Sharp? With an interest in Biron (if true) that pretty much seals the deal that Lehtonen won’t be seeing any action this year…and could possibly mean we have seen the last of KL as a Thrasher.

Smoothie

November 7th, 2009
6:14 pm

I would love to get both Biron and Sharp! Trade Moose and a prospect not named Postma for Sharp and try to wrest Biron away fron NYI for some defensive depth (Salmela or Pops?) And call up Kulda.

Of course Eklund is never right, but Sharp rumors are realistic considering Chicago’s cap issues. Regardless, Waddudley would be wise to explore that avenue and use those Hawk connections to their advantage.

sisu

November 7th, 2009
8:17 pm

What the heck, once again the team is starting slow….

Would love to see an upgrade by adding sharp, but as you may know the Hawks are missing a forward from each one of their 4 lines…so what would we send in return?

Curly

November 7th, 2009
8:21 pm

Definitely 7:00 pm starts on Weekdays. I live outside the perimeter (East Side) and can leave work at 5:00, go home and grab a quick Supper and make it to the Arena by 6:45.

7:30 pm starts are a bit too late for week nights.

LAC

November 7th, 2009
8:27 pm

This is starting to look like the Titanic, This is NUTS, letting guys score at will right in front of the net, POOR goaltending and a defense that is ASLEEP !

Did anyone see that GREAT centering pass Hanisey made to Park for a SOG ?

We cannot exit our zone in a quick & effective manner, like other teams and look like $HIT tonight.

I hate to say it, but this is NOT a very good team, Slava is coasting like never before, Little looks LOST, Kane seems to not know how to shoot the puck and the defense is TERRIBLE !!!

The most ineffective is Enstrom, he is getting WORST on the defensive side as the season goes on and Hanisey is no better…

Changes need to be made and made QUICK or we will be out of it by Thanksgiving, say good bye to Illya, how could any superstar want to remain with a LOSER like Atlanta ?

Sorry folks but you see it on the ice tonight it STINKS, it STUNK Thursday night and will be an OUTHOUSE after we get BEAT tonight and Sunday by St.Louis, another GREAT season for us fans offered up by STUPID don waddell, It’s over !

12345

November 7th, 2009
8:55 pm

Boy this is ungood to say the very least. So awful I am now watching reruns of Family Feud, 5-2 ????? I have to agree the defense we have is awful, we are for sure heading back to be a bottom feeder in this league, like we have always been. What an incentive for Kovy, WOW
more of the same year after year after year, by 1/2010 we will be at least 20 points out of a playoff spot, but no changes will ever be made
and the man responsible for this entire mess will remain messing everything up. I think it is time to sell the team and move them, because I for one and DAMN tired of this lackluster play ! There is never any improvement !

sisu

November 7th, 2009
9:20 pm

Bad game tonight, one teams was ready the other one not. But to say that the season is over??? What is wrong with you people here? Are you fans or just here to insult the true fans? A flat game, no hitting and too many shots given up.

If you feel that this team stinks, then look at Hurricanes and see how it could be…

It seems to me that the same posters always come in and hammer on the team after a bad game or two.This team is better this season and will be battling. All teams have bad nights. Get over it!

Big Bill

November 7th, 2009
9:44 pm

I was going to the St.Louis game Sunday, but after watching the game tonight, I am going to save my money for some other entertainment
that I will enjoy, not something I will waste $ on to see another
poor preformance and loss. This team is not a very good one.

Brendan

November 7th, 2009
11:37 pm

Look folks. It’s really not as bad as it looks. If things were really that bad, this team would be 5-6 games under .500, NHL-style. We’re at .500. We’re 5-2-1 on the road. The Islanders have been 6-2-2 in their last 10 or so. But don’t quote me on that. So? So we caught them on a hot streak.

Keep something else in mind, please. We are without the “face of the franchise,” the leader, the Captain, Ilya Kovalchuk. So, a real, true comparison between us and the Isles didn’t take place. But I’ll give credit to the Islanders. They played a very determine, CONFIDENT style of play in front of the home fans, for a Saturday night game. The Islanders are now 6-6-5, good enought for 17-points and a .500 record. Atlanta is 6-6-1, for 13-points, with FOUR (4) games-in-hand.

This Thrashers team is NOT a ship sinking. This is a mid-level club, probably ranked 19th to 22nd overall in the league. In my opinion, as I’ve said all long, for months and years now, this is YEAR THREE of a 4-year building probject. This team is on pace for 82-points. That’s six-points better than 76-points. I’m not one to trumpet “incremental progress,” as I see “incremental progress” as a BARE-BONES minimum return on consecutive picks inside the lottery draft and the availability to claim players off the waiver wire, like Schubert and Peverley, for example.

Folks, I promise you … we’re not headed to 57-points, or 61-points, for 70-points. We’re going to reach 82-points, at a minimum. We ran a guess the points contest, and the vast majority of the posters here picked Atlanta to be ranked 9th or higher in the conference. I think my guess was 85-points, and 10th in the Conference. And that was one of the lower guesses in the contest.

There are positive things to look at in this game. Hedberg did well in relief. The blueline chipped in all three goals. I have egg on my face right now, because Christophe Schubert got off “Schneid Island” before Kozlov and Antropov have. So, there goes my pick! I’m wrong again. Kubina’s goal, I don’t care what anyone says, was a thing of beauty. When the Top 20 goals of the season are compiled, I think that Kubina turn and slapper to the upper corner of the net should make the highlight reel. Bogosian’s goal was a little weak. Schubert’s was “meh.” It went in.

Invisible tonight, were Kozlov, who looks like he’s CHECKED OUT, and Todd White. One of the most disappointing things I saw, believe it or not, was a simple play entering the zone. Slater tried to advance the puck up the side boards and was UTTERLY PINCHED out of the play. It was embarrassing. Moments later, the Islanders scored that CRUSHING 4th goal. Slater either has to dump the puck and go for a line change, or get around the defenseman. He was made to look like a government mule on that play. I don’t mean to dump on Slater. He’s just a 4th line Center guy, who tries real hard, to the best of his ability. But I felt, in that moment, in that play, that the Islanders felt they had Atlanta on the run. And then they scored.

But this was ONE (1) game, folks. Don’t judge the season by it. If we’re gonna throw the team under the bus after each loss, this is going to be a long season. I can’t support doing that. Especially in a ‘building year.’ I know Kovalchuk wants to win the Stanley Cup this year, and JA says anything short of the playoffs is failure, but really … what are they supposed to say? “We’re cool with picking up the next big piece of the puzzle at the draft next June?” That won’t sell tickets. This team is better than last year. It was more depth. It has more potential, moving forward. The Florida Panthers are 5-9-1. They suck. The Carolina Hurricanes are something like 2-11-3. And that’s 0-9-2 in their last 12. That’s a team that’s not on the same sheet of music. We’re not those teams.

Look what a weird night it was in the NHL tonight? Nashville over the “en fuego” L.A. Kings? The Leafs SPANK the Red Wings, 5-1? Boston, who had scored one (1) goal in 9.5 periods … sank 4 tonight, in a win vs. Buffalo, who has been playing well. Tampa Bay went INTO MONTREAL and beat them, 3-1. Did you predict that one?? Lots of unusual results.

As for attending tomorrow’s game … you go because you want to, not because you expect a win or a loss. It’s a great opportunity to bring your kids to an afternoon game. Shoot, make a day of it! See the Falcons SPANK the Deadskins from 1-4, then eat at CNN, and attend the 5PM game vs. St. Louis. What a great day of family togetherness, doing the things we love to enjoy! And that’s watching our home teams play sports.

R. Stroz

November 8th, 2009
12:48 am

Signs you’re going to lose a hockey game:

1) Mandy Sutton scores the first goal of the game.

Well, that’s sufficient.

Northwest Sider

November 8th, 2009
5:17 am

And I thought we had this “better” team, same old Thrashers…

Baldheaded Thrasher

November 8th, 2009
7:20 am

The game was blacked out by Direct TV for me and I live in the Atlanta area. Direct TV’s customer no service could not give me a reason why this was the case, exept to mention that Direct TV had no control over the blackouts?

My question is what cable or other satellite feeds carried the game?

Smitty

November 8th, 2009
8:20 am

I am disappointed at the play of Kozlov and White. They should not be playing 2nd line minutes. Our defense has been abysmal. Too many screens in front of Pavs last night but that is getting to be the norm leaving Pavs out to dry. Tough to control rebounds when you do not see the puck, just ask Glovesave. We need more physical play from our defense.

A lot of weakside goals against which reflects poor coverage by our wingers. Little was no where to be found on Suttons goal. Could not believe Sutton goal. Only time he shelves anything is after a game when he takes off his equipment.

Thrashers need to come out strong this afternoon. Does a team that is continually ill-prepared to start a game reflect poor preperation by the coaching staff? I hope not.

stendec

November 8th, 2009
8:53 am

I hope heartless Thrashers enjoy Hamilton! That is a lie. I hope they freeze their untalented a$$es off! Hope all you damn apologists savored another close loss. Check that! This one was not even close. Being completely outclassed by the minor league Islanders. THE DAMN ISLANDERS! Coach John Petrino sure had team motivated for this one. Losing streak intact. Swirl down commode continues! Thrashers worst of worst. About Ilya Kovalchuk returning? Forget it! Playoffs? That is a four letter word twice. No chance in Hell. Tell me again how wonderful these gutless quitters are! Deserved NHL laughingstocks. Their eventual departure will be no loss whatsoever! To Hell with them. ++STENDEC++ Uncaring quitters!

Sage of Bluesland

November 8th, 2009
9:49 am

Don Waddell thanks you for your support! Oh well, Year 11 of our Five-Year Plan…Who needs pathetic when you’re “building through the draft!”…

Pitiful.

alex

November 8th, 2009
9:51 am

we going to lose today game also, 100% confident, sorry.

Curly

November 8th, 2009
10:09 am

Great post Brendan.

I recall that two of the Columbus goals were a direct result of Slater being out of position. At least one of the Isles goals was due to his poor judgment. Not to mention his missed shoots, and whiffs. Slater could use some time in Chicago to get his act together. Bring up a few Wolves to see what they can do (ie.. Crabb, Stapleton, Gratton). Some of these guys had a good training camp and deserve a chance over Slater.

Carole

November 8th, 2009
10:50 am

7pm, absolutely. As a 10 year STH, I can remember when weeknight games started at 7:30pm and how disruptive it was to my week to not get home until 11pm, meaning not to bed until midnight. Leaving the arena 9:40ish, I’m home by a little after 10 and then in bed by 11. Come morning, we appreciate that extra hour. I know at least two other new STH for whom the 7pm start was a requirement.

HookyBob

November 8th, 2009
11:26 am

I’ve been on the road a few days and out of internet (as well as cellphone) access. Returned yesterday and have been debriefed.

Several comments have noted that once the tax exemptions reach a certian age the 7:00 starting time looses much of its appeal. Let me put in a word for the AARP fans. At some point in one’s life getting home before 11:00 at night has greater weight. Now I grant that, as a country boy who grew up on the frozen ponds, I am a Jack London advocate in that I don’t believe in “burning daylight.” It would be interesting to see what the age demographics of Thrasher fans are. How are we doing in attracting younger fans?

Kukla’s Corner has an interesting article from the Pittsburgh writer (Rob Rossi?) about southern based teams. He maintains there is a workable “warm weather” model for successful NHL franchises,…but Atlanta isn’t one of them.

Also, read recently that St Louis is an “offensively challenged” team. I’m hoping that is just what the doctor ordered for this team.

Go Blue.

Miami Screaming Eagle

November 8th, 2009
11:59 am

You wonder how much the spector of Kovy being unsigned is hurting this team. The players all know their leader, their captain may be gone at year’s end or sooner.

Is this guy really a leader if he is such a distraction? Don’t try and tell me this hasn’t become a major distraction for the team.

Time to make a decision, by December 1. If he’s not going to resign, trade him and get something for him. This club will be in limbo until this situation is settled. Rick Nash was able to make his decision without an act of Congress.

Fish or cut bait.

Sage of Bluesland

November 8th, 2009
12:27 pm

I don’t know which is more laughable–Don Waddell’s tenure as a big league GM or thinking that 30 minutes is the reason for lackluster attendance at the figurative joke otherwise known as “Blueland”?

Tough choice, isn’t it?

Actually, these two points are intertwined so much so that even a sheep can connect the dots…

Still wondering why on Earth some still subsidize the utter incompetence and abomination…I stopped and am now relegated to chuckling at the few “highs” and mostly “lows” of this forlorn franchise via the box score or miniscule article in the ever-shrinking AJC…

How sad on all levels! Oh well, bumbling Don still thanks you for your support! Enjoy it–you’ve earned it, my sheep!

Thrashers27

November 8th, 2009
12:30 pm

Stendec,

If we ever heard from you when the team was winning, your opinions might be held in consideration. As it is, the only time you ever open your digital piehole is after a loss. If you ever had anything positive to say, your thoughts might be considered, but you never say anything positive, you never point out good things, so what value do you lend to this forum?

None!

++STENDOUCHE++

Rawhide

November 8th, 2009
12:58 pm

Baldheaded Thrasher – Comcast showed the game…I was able to watch the debacle after coming home from TJ’s Saturday night. Really, really sad what Direct TV did…we had a full room at TJ’s full of fans there to see the game and Direct TV basically screwed the pooch. When custumer “no” service was called, they gave some bull about how it was blacked out because it was being aired on Sports South. This even though they could plainly see that the Hawks were on Sports South and that’s why they were blacked out in the Atlanta market.

Tim, Mark and the entire staff at TJ’s did there usual wonderful job of entertaining us…and we had a few games on in the party room to observe and had a good time. But Direct TV…and their lack of support…deserve a GIANT BITE-ME!!

sisu

November 8th, 2009
1:06 pm

Wow, there are always the same posters here who come out after a bad loss. I agree with Brendan, it takes time to get the pieces together and the team is at .500 right now instead of looking at the standings and seeing that they are still hanging in there versus facing an up hill climb of being 4 or 5 games below .500.
Biggest piece is missing is Kovy at the moment, he will come back and give the team the “shot in the arm” needed

Baldheaded Thrasher

November 8th, 2009
1:10 pm

Rawhide_I’m not finished dealing with Direct TV customer no service.
The questions I want answered are:

1) Why did Center Ice blackout Direct TV and not Comcast?

2) The Montreal game on Nov 3rd was the exact same circumstance (away game and no regional or local coverage)but was shown. What’s the difference?

I’ve had Center Ice for a number of years and the game should have been available last night.

Trying to get ready for tonight parking will be a challenge I’m sure.

Rawhide

November 8th, 2009
1:20 pm

Baldheaded Thrasher – Your two questions should be easy enough to answer. 1). They should not have blacked it out and 2). There was no difference in the two.

The problem on their end was that someone mistakenly blocked it out because they thought it was being aired on SportsSouth. That was a mistake….but when the “mistake” was clearly pointed out to the people on the other end of the phone, they didn’t want to correct the mistake.

So you and every other Thrashers fan who is a subscriber to NHL Center Ice via Direct TV has a right to be pissed.

Making mistakes is only human…we all do it on the individual level and business level. But when it is clearly pointed out that you’ve made a mistake but you as a company refuse to correct it for your paying customers…well, you deserve all of the sh!t you get from it on the other end of the phone from those you pay for your service and keep you employed.

But that’s just me.

Anyway…time to make my way down to Philips.

Smoothie

November 8th, 2009
1:28 pm

Time to shake things up a bit by calling up a couple of young hungry Wolves like Spencer and Crabb or Kozek. They cannot play any less inspired than Kozlov, White and even Armstrong.

Put Kari on IR officially so you can carry 14 fwds and 7 D-men and 2 goalies. Time to send a msg about heart and determination. Hell, bring up Crabb and Gratton and knock some heads!

Sick of these gutless loafers playing without any sense of urgency! Your best player is hurt so step up and raise your game!

Kane – Little – Antro

Kozzy – Pevs – Army

Crabb – Marty – Max

Gratts – White – Thor

Send Slater to Chicago to get his act together and make Boults sit in the presser with Salmela. I’d sit Kozlov but he’s still valuable on the 2nd unit PP.

Re-work the D- pairings to give Bogo some vet “protection” with Hainsey. Let Kubina play with Enstrom and hope that Pops can keep the mistakes to a min with Schubert.

Bob

November 8th, 2009
1:42 pm

7:30 starts are a no brainer. Which is precisely why this management makes the mind boggling decision to start weekday games at 7pm with Atlanta traffic. It’s one of the 2 major reasons I don’t have season tix anymore, just can’t get there at 7pm. I had to leave work at 4:30 and leave my home by 5:30 to get there at about 7:05 and just make the puck drop. With the 7:30 starts, I could work a full day and not leave home till 6:45 and make it there at 7:30 as traffic would have died down, that’s a huge difference.

Look at the empty seats and get a clue.

LAC

November 8th, 2009
1:44 pm

Here is an interesting bit in the NHL.com preview of tonights game…

Just tells it like it really is, coming back to Earth,AKA LAST PLACE !

Big story: Since Kovalchuk went down with a broken foot that will keep him out for several more weeks, the Thrashers have gradually come back down to earth. Their 6-3 loss Saturday night on Long Island was their sixth in eight games since the fast start.

Who cares about Carolina or the other teams ? I care about our team, but when our team STINKS, it needs to be pointed out, after TEN years we should be contenders not pretenders, How can ANYONE, except the IDIOTS who own the team, not see this. don waddell STINKS and this team is not one bit better than any in the past two seasons, LOSERS.

It is sad when one of your better players was a WAIVER pickup, how many of those do we have ? You do NOT win with waiver pickups, you win with good UFA signings and smart draft’s, neither is anything Stupid waddell knows anything about !

Tom

November 8th, 2009
2:05 pm

Rawhide

I also had it out with the customer service rep. He said the broadcasting team has the right to block out the transmissions and said it may be because of the whole Versus battle. MSG is owned by the company that owns Versus and they may be blocking away games just to screw Directv and get people to switch to Comcast. That was the idea floated by the customer service agent I had, and may very well be true if Comcast was allowed to carry the game and Directv had to block it out.

I would love to get clarification on the issue though.

One other point, most teams do not have to deal with their broadcast partner not showing away games and this being an issue. Just sayin…

Baldheaded Thrasher

November 8th, 2009
2:23 pm

I was thinking that there might be a nexus with MSG and Comcast. Comcast would love to put the thumbscrews to Direct TV. I hope they resolve the issue or we are really screwed when the playoffs start and we miss the playoffs past the 1st round that Versus will show.

Brendan

November 8th, 2009
2:43 pm

You know something, folks. Sage of Bluesland, despite the vitriol, has a point about accountability. He is HARDLY the only one who simply won’t attend another Thrashers game until Waddell is fired. I understand what an uphill battle Waddell faces. And if you think doesn’t face obstacles, you’re wrong. Bruce Levenson, in my opinion, is the worst owner in all of Atlanta Sports. It is … “difficult” to explain to fans in other markets how and why our GM still has a job. They listen to the explanation, but then quickly reply, “We’d never put up with that in (supply other city name here).” Personally, I think Waddell is doing a better job of building the 2nd time around than he did between 1999-2002. In this respect, I think he’s learning. But I’m sure nobody really wants to hear that. All fans really want … is a good product that produces wins. 10-4. I hear ya LOUD-N-CLEAR.

Now, call me naive, but I think 5-years is a long time for contract duration. Stay with me. If that’s what Waddell and the Thrashers are offering Kovalchuk, he’s got to wait until July 2, 2010, to go see what kind of team they’ll really field for him … before he should re-sign. I can SEE that. I DO! I see the detractors point CLEARLY as well. “We can’t TAKE THAT RISK. We can’t have Kovy WALK FOR NOTHING, in free agency.” I can see that, too. So, now what? Well, what’s a man’s handshake and the pledge of his word really worth? I’m not a lawyer. Verbal contracts seem rather “hazy” to me. But if Waddell is promising the league max, and to get Kovy the players he wants, and Kovalchuk is promising that he’ll agree to re-sign under those terms, then I suppose ‘an agreement in principle’ has been reached. IFFFF was the operative word. Kovy has tons of “outs” in this situation. His hypothetical promise is conditioned upon the contractual signing of the players he wants in next year’s free agency, coupled with the existing Thrashers that he WANTS to remain here, for the next 5 years.

Okayyyyy. I hear ya. He’s the Captain. The contract is a distraction. He should just re-sign already. Almost all Thrasher fans want that. Maybe a 1-year deal could be struck very soon, just to put the matter behind us???? I don’t know what to say. Other than this. If Kovy leaves, it’s not the end of hockey in Atlanta. And I, personally, am not going to hold a grudge or be angry at #17. He didn’t fail the Thrashers. The Thrashers failed him. Many serious missteps took place with this organization, especially as it relates to accountability and ownership matters. I was on record, in April 2007, as saying, “The time to cement Kovalchuk’s future … is NOW. Not in 2010. The time to clean house and fix things … is now. Not later.” It is what it is. Waddell has shown improvement since 2007. But it’s not as if the organization didn’t have options. Hartley and Waddell hadn’t yet been renewed in 2007. Both those things happened in 2008. The accountability over those 4 trade deadline moves in 2007 … was what?? What, precisely? Nothing. Hartley wasn’t fired until six games into the 2007-08 season.

Get The Puck Out

November 8th, 2009
5:55 pm

If you had the talent that Kovy’s got and you played on a team for your entire career so far with NO playoff victorys and it looks like it’s gonna be a challenge to finish .500 this season what would you do? I know what i’d do.

Squeaky Fromage, The Hockey Debutante

November 8th, 2009
5:57 pm

About Direct TV: We were on the phone with Direct TV twice to find out what the issue was with the “black out” (Twice because it’s just not Direct TV unless they cut you off at least once in the hopes you won’t call back) – and like Baldheaded Thrasher – they had no explanation. I complained when Versus was dropped – got the $10 monthly discount that they gave everyone who whined – and then got ANOTHER $10 off for last nights ridiculous miss. Pretty soon Direct TV will be paying me! So everyone who has Direct TV – keep the noise level up, and maybe they’ll clean up their act. My next play for another discount will be the low percentage of HD broadcasts.
As for a 7 vs. 7:30 start. I vote 7:30. It’s tough to get home, walk the dogs, toss down a quick shot of bourbon, and then get to the arena by 7, whether we drive or “SMARTA” – and we live in town! So I can’t imagine the pressure for our less fortunate brethern OTP.
And while I’m whining… MARTA – for cryin’ out loud – add another train on game nights! It’s an easy 30 minute wait for a eastbound after a game. C’mon! And after these home losses you REALLY just want to leave, and leave fast. Maybe today will be different.

Get The Puck Out

November 8th, 2009
6:04 pm

Wasn’t Moose wearing that goalie mask extension before? I noticed tonight he’s not wearin it.

Miami Screaming Eagle

November 8th, 2009
8:11 pm

Just sign the darn contract already or trade the guy. If both sides had “good conversations” in the summer, then what’s the holdup? dystraction distraction, distraction.

By the way, nice come from behind win today.

There’s a number of posters on this blog that are totally negative all the time. Why you idiots are coming back all the time to post your stupidity is beyond me. If you don’t like the team, find something else to do or just get a life.

Fom crying out loud, you don’t own the team!

Dwayne

November 8th, 2009
8:26 pm

Yep, big distraction, Kovys lack of contraction and his 9 goals and an assist in 10 games…big distraction, wait a minute, lets break it down a little more, its only a distraction at home…since we are 2-4, but its not a distraction on the road, since we are 5-2-1

Dwayne

November 8th, 2009
8:27 pm

how about the monkey puck from Hainsey…karma, aint it a hoot?

Dwayne

November 8th, 2009
8:31 pm

Be happy yall didn’t get the islanders game, they were horrible, Opie was left out to dry 20 times, lucky it was only 6-3, guys wide open in the slot, at the posts, in the crease, Thrashers headed to O-fense when the islanders still had possesion of the puck….if the negative nellies would have seen that game…it would have been even uglier.

LAC

November 8th, 2009
8:55 pm

Finally The Hockey Gods were on our side tonight.

Funny, that is the SAME net where Opie lost a long one…
What’s going on down there ?????

Brendan

November 8th, 2009
9:19 pm

Nice come from behind win. The Center Ice Replay is on Comcast Channel #773. Don’t watch it until the 3rd period starts. :mrgreen:

Smoothie

November 8th, 2009
9:31 pm

Yes indeed LAC!! We finally were the beneficiaries of some dumb monkey puck luck!!

Woo hoo! Way to go Thrashers! Finally rewarded for their late-game balls-to-the-wall heart and stick-to-it-ive-ness!

Mr. Tiller, ’twas a grand pleasure the likes of which defy description to finally meet the Divine Mrs. T! The pleasure was unmistakably ours.

See you on Friday the 13th!!

Brendan

November 8th, 2009
9:35 pm

Hey, anyone remember the last goal scored by a Thrasher FORWARD in regulation time? It was Bogosian, Kubina, and Schubert vs. the Isles and Enstrom and Hainsey today. http://www.nhl.com/ice/boxscore.htm?id=2009020238

Spirit Group Management

November 8th, 2009
9:36 pm

Well, it’s painfully apparent that we’ve been completely dense and obtuse in our decision to start games at the silly hour of 7 pm sharp!

From now on, because of the overwhelming support of later start times, ALL Thrashers games will from now on and forevermore begin promptly at 5 pm sharp no matter what day of the week it is!!

Darkhorse

November 8th, 2009
10:19 pm

We’ve lost some we should have won in the past few weeks, and now we finally won one we should have lost. I’ll take a W anyway we can get it.

R. Stroz

November 8th, 2009
10:42 pm