Thrashers Loss To CBJs Is Like Déjà vu All Over Again

Ever get that strange and unexplainable feeling that you seen this before?

Thrashers playing at home…come out of the locker room in the red third jerseys…get down by two or three goals…mount a comeback…end the game with a final furious rally in front of the visitor’s goal…but fall just short.

Now, was that the Thrashers last game I just described?

Evander Kane and the Thrashers were up against it all night (AP Photo/John Bazemore)

Evander Kane and the Thrashers were up against it all night (AP Photo/John Bazemore)

Was it last Thursday versus Washington?

Maybe it was the Thursday before that against, again, Washington?

Or was it the Saturday game against San Jose in between the two Capitals game?

Outside of the fact that against the Sharks Atlanta wore their blue jerseys, the same story line held true in the 4-3 loss to the Columbus Blue Jackets… who escaped Philips Arena with two points just one night after falling 3-2 in a shootout to the Sharks back in Columbus.

Forget “Blueland”…Philips Arena has become “Déjà vu-land”!

Atlanta lost despite out-shooting the Blue Jackets 35-21…18-8 in the second and 15-2 in the third. They have now out-shot opponents all of three times so far this season…and they have lost all three games.

For the first couple of periods Thursday night the Thrashers looked like a 6-year old soccer team…you know, the way they’ll all mass around the ball focusing their attention to that and paying no attention whatsoever to any positioning. Much like the kids on the soccer pitch, the Thrashers played “follow the puck” too much and left Blue Jackets wide open for easy goals.

What is it going to take to get the Thrashers to win at home again?

  • Wear their road white jerseys (21%, 12 Votes)
  • Charter a flight to circle them around for 2 hours the night before (5%, 3 Votes)
  • Put 'em up in a hotel before every home game (25%, 14 Votes)
  • Paint the visiting team's logo at center ice to make 'em think they are at their rink (5%, 3 Votes)
  • Change the start time to 7:30 when they actually start playing (44%, 25 Votes)

Total Voters: 57

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Raffi Torres netted a pair for the CBJs, his 7th and 8th goals of the season. Jakob Vorecek scored his 5th and Derik Bressard scored his third of the season.

Toby Enstrom got off of Schnide Island Thursday, scoring his first goal of the season on his 25th birthday. It came during the second period while Atlanta was on the power play, drilling the puck into the net from the right side…and by “drilling the puck into the net”, I mean he literally drilled it into the net as it was lodged into the twine. Toby’s goal came with the assists going to Todd White and Slava Kozlov.

Earlier in the period it looked like Toby had punched his ticket off the island, but his shot from the left point deflected in of Bryan Little’s stick for his second goal of the year. This leaves Nik Antropov, Slava Kozlov, Jim Slater, Marty Reasoner and Christoph Schubert to gather coconuts on the Isle of Schnide.

Pavel Kubina scored his second of the season with a power play goal in the third to get the Thrashers to withing one at the 2:06 mark of that final frame…leaving them with with 17 minutes and 54 seconds remaining to tie the score.

But back to the subject the Thrashers home woes…what is behind the pattern of losses at Philips Arena? Well, coach Anderson said after the game that, “We don’t dictate the game, we wait to see how the game unfolds and then we play”.

He also pointed out in the post-game press conference that the team did stay in a hotel prior to the season opener at home when the beat Tampa Bay 6-3. So, could that mean they should go straight to a hotel after flying home from New York before Sunday’s game against St. Louis, or prior to other home games in the future, to simulate the feel of still being on the road?

“Don Waddell might not like that because it means spending more money”, Anderson explained.

Spend it, Don…spend it!

72 comments Add your comment

R. Stroz

November 5th, 2009
10:59 pm

FIRST, or GOLD

Smoothie

November 5th, 2009
11:32 pm

The Thrashers should just buy the top two floors of the CNN Omni and have the players reside there before every home game. Obviously the focus isn’t quite there yet at home and having so much time on the road early on has probably led directly to a feeling of “ease” as soon as the troops return home. They need to be “on guard” when protecting the home fort and that will only happen when the brain farts cease.

Brendan

November 5th, 2009
11:36 pm

Let’s play the rest of the season on the road.

Brendan

November 5th, 2009
11:39 pm

Columbus has come a long way since their fired their GM back in 2007, in favor of Scott Howson. Wonder if Columbus will make the playoffs again this year, and win a playoff game, this time.

R. Stroz

November 5th, 2009
11:39 pm

Does anyone remember a few years back that whenever the Thrashers had a sell out that they would lose the game?

Darkhorse

November 5th, 2009
11:40 pm

Those horrible third jerseys can’t be helping. They keep coming out at the start of each game like THEY are the ones pulling allnighters at the Cheetah and Pink Pony the night before.

What a strange trend. It is like the same homegame over and over. I thought it might be me, so I stayed at home and didn’t watch much of the game(knowing their would be a later replay). Oh….we need some nasty in that lockeroom.

Rawhide

November 5th, 2009
11:43 pm

Everyone…If your looking to watch the game Saturday night, keep in mind that we’ll be gathering at TJ’s for the viewing party.

Also, please remember in your thoughts and prayers all the family members and loved ones who have been affected by the horrific events at Fort Hood today. Truly a horrific and hearbreaking tragedy out there.

Darkhorse

November 5th, 2009
11:43 pm

Stroz-Had forgot that miserable trend. That was a major frustration. I remember some nationally televised game at home where we layed an egg for all of N. America. DW was even getting really superstitious that season.

Michael B. Shapiro

November 5th, 2009
11:46 pm

Ditch the red jerseys. Look like ugly pajamas anyway. Wear the friggin’ blue jerseys. It’s BLUEland, ain’t it?? If that doesn’t work, just go away and win on the road. Maybe when the Kapitan is healthy we’ll let you come back home. Yeesh this is hard to watch. Actually turned it off after AY-Carumba’s 3rd goal it was so painful. Turned it on at 4-3 and watched the last scramble, but like so many other home games this season it was too little too late. Maybe Stendec has stronger words for it.

Mr. Heat Miser

November 5th, 2009
11:52 pm

The Ice Girls look much better in the burgundy – can you say wonder bra?

Smoothie

November 6th, 2009
12:03 am

John Anderson was a sniper, can he not teach Slater when and how to shoot? It can’t be that hard to flip one over the pad on the short side. Kristina from the blue crew has a better wrist shot!

Stroz – unfortch, I remember all too well the sellout jinx of 2006-07.

Time to scrap this stupid Thrasher Thursday campaign in favor of All U Can Drink for two periods. Uh, ever heard of Thirsty Thursday?? Maybe that will get butts in the seats for a thurs nite. Pathetic

Thrashers27

November 6th, 2009
1:28 am

I have withheld judgement on Max to this point, but I have to say that he was really wowing me tonight. I do see what some say about him skatin gcircles around in the O-zone only to lose the puck, but the guy is one of the most creative players I’ve ever seen. Did you see some of the passes he made tonight. A couple of times I thought he had nowhere to go with the puck and low and behold he would twist, spin and probably shout to find a trailer open for a shot. It is truly amazing what that guy can do with the puck on his stick.

Overall, a decent game boys. If they have their stuff together for the first :20 this is a win…at least we’re only talking about the first :20- now and not the first :40.

Anybody else notice that trend of outshooting the opposition and losing. I don’t think the Thrashers have won any of the (I think three) games that they’ve outshot the opponent this season?

LAC

November 6th, 2009
1:40 am

How many people were at this game 4,000 maybe ? There was NOBODY in some lower sections, maybe the players are looking into the stands wondering if this is a hockey market or not, this team wure is playing themselves DEEPER into a BIG hole.

We were out of the playoff picture by Christmas last season and with this style of play at HOME we should be again this season and #17 will be waving GOOD-BYE !

RS

November 6th, 2009
7:02 am

Change the start times to 7:30. Beginning in front of an empty arena can’t be helping. The crowd at the puck drop was embarrassing.

Putting On The Foil

November 6th, 2009
7:03 am

Not sure Slater could flip the puck in the ocean from the beach.

Matt

November 6th, 2009
7:16 am

SIXTY MINUTES…FOR GOD’S SAKE, THE GAME IS SIXTY MINUTES!!! What does it take to get this very simple fact through this team’s incredibly dense skulls? Moral victories for two periods (or one) of good play is not going to cut it. Wasn’t Columbus playing the back end of two in a row? And WE’RE the ones who come out flat? Ridiculous.

Dwayne

November 6th, 2009
7:17 am

i was sad/embaressed last nite looking at the crowd…switched over to the Boston game it was packed before the puck dropped. I know when I played high school sports, no one ever came to see us, we had a history of losing. We were beat before the coin toss, before the jump ball and before the first pitch. Thrashers have a good team on the ice, they deserve the support.

five_hole

November 6th, 2009
7:43 am

It wasn’t for a lack of offense that we lost, it was a lack of defense. I think JA needs to have them practice till they puke. Maybe JA could show them tape of the game, highlighting Blue Jackets clogging the lanes and sticking with their assignments as an example.

World Be Free

November 6th, 2009
7:55 am

Well folks, I hate to say I told you so about Slater, but I told you so.

This guy couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a boat. To call him “Stone Hands” is a compliment. I don’t know what purpose he serves on this team, other than taking up a roster spot for a player that could be developing and contributing; Slater does neither.

You people can stay on the Jimmy Bandwagon if you like, but I say stick him in the press box and let some kid come up that is going to contribute something, anything.

Great hip check on Kane, even better to see him bounce up and get back in the play. I’d still be lying on the ice

World Be Free

November 6th, 2009
7:57 am

Gloevsave-I was watching Pavs last night from ice level. I see what you mean about his positioning. He was out of position twice on 2nd period goals. His lateral movement wasn’t very good last night. Good to have your goalie expertise on this blog.

Get Legace up here ASAP (along with Chelios).

JLH

November 6th, 2009
8:08 am

Thrasher27 – I couldn’t agree with you more about Max. I sit 10 rows from the glass on the end and watch him continuously stick handle in traffic and even control the puck on the boards.
WBF – What else can we say about Slater? I like the guy, and even feel sorry for him, but I gotta agree with you.
Five Hole – They left Pavalec out to dry all night. I love this team, but it made me a bit nauseous when I realized we are slipping back into the “beehive” hockey that has been a trademark of our bad teams i.e. guys swarming toward the puck defensively, which leaves guys like Torres wide open on the doorstep. Columbus actually missed a couple of wide open nets. And yes, we had to work hard for our goals because Columbus played exactly the opposite, just as you called it.

Edistoned

November 6th, 2009
8:09 am

I think it is a shame to watch the beginning of these games and see the club seats 80% empty and seat behind the goals only half full. Any momentum the team might have coming out of the locker room has to be somewhat deflated by looking at that vast emptiness where fans should be. The attendance was listed as 10,000 +. What was it actually? 6,000? I feel bad for the guys coming off of a great trip and then have to play in that empty barn. That doesn’t have anything to do with leaving Raffi Torres alone twice at the corner of the net or Jim Slater’s diminishing hockey sense. Can’t imagine that Atlanta will ever become a hockey town, especially without a prolonged level of success.

The Real Thrash

November 6th, 2009
8:17 am

How many more times are going to hear from a Thrashers coach that “we’re a litte fragile?” Who’s fault is that? What kind of professional team has to have everything go right for them to perform? A losing team!

Sara

November 6th, 2009
8:20 am

As Rawhide would say, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? This has gotten beyond ridiculous. Anderson says the team is playing good, he can’t figure it out. Sure they are playing good – for about 2 periods.

I don’t want to ream the crap out of the guys because they have mostly played really well, but mostly isn’t good enough when you’re dropping games at home consistently. Can’t blame it on the jerseys – they’ve done the same thing in the blue jerseys. Can’t blame it on the start times because they did the same thing against San Jose and that one was a Saturday when people had plenty of time to make puckdrop. Can’t even blame it on the crowds since they play well for 2 periods in front of same said crowds. And all anyone on the team says is that they are coming out flat and getting behind early. Well no s* Sherlock. WHY are you coming out flat? And I’m not impressed to hear the “fragile” word coming out of the coach’s mouth. I HATE that word. It ranks right up there with the powder blue jerseys as things that just do not mix with manly hockey players.

The good is that the horrid home starts are really the only thing majorly wrong with this club. They are battling their way through the rest of the games, we are getting lots of secondary scoring (though Kane sure went quiet after Pevs came off his line – I’m thinking some line tinkering is in order but more on that in a minute). Pavs is holding up way better than expected. We’re getting outshot mostly but as someone already pointed out, we seem to play better and have more success that way anyway. The overall attitude is great – real team concept for these guys. Even Enstrom was talking last night about not being concerned with his point totals – he said as Kovy has so many times, it doesn’t matter that he scores, what matters is winning the games. The PP is good, the PK is good. They just can’t get their heads in the games at home fast enough. Fix it and this team should rocket up the standings.

As for the line combos … I guess options are semi-sorta limited with no Kovy but I miss having Pevs with Kaner and Army. But then again, I’m also tempted to put Kozzie with Pevs to see if he can then get going. Hmmm… maybe:

Kane-Antro-Army
Kozzie-Pevs-Max
Slater-White-Little
Boulton-Reasoner-Thorburn

Hmmm…Not sure I even like the overall look of that. Maybe swap White for Antro?? Darn shame we can’t clone Peverley – it would make things so much easier. ;)

five_hole

November 6th, 2009
8:21 am

JLH I wasn’t faulting Pavelic, I was referring to his being hung out to dry by the defense. Although I have noticed what World Be Free was saying; his lateral movement is better from one side (right to left?) than it is going the other way. I’m also not particularly impressed with his glove hand, but that’s not his worst attribute.

Sara

November 6th, 2009
8:23 am

Miss Trixie – I think my comment got stuck in blog purgatory. My fault – it was definitely more than a mouthful. :)

hip czech

November 6th, 2009
8:34 am

another moral victory…too bad they don’t produce any points in the standings. These games need to start resulting in Ws soon, very soon.

I love the offensive-first system, but if the Thrashers can’t even play pee-wee level defense it is all for nothing. I have no problem with the D joining (and leading in the case of Bogosian and Enstrom) the rush, but those Torres goals were really, really bad. The second appeared to be Slater’s coverage, just another reason for him to be checking out the press box spread.

Is it time to break up the Bogosian/Enstrom pairing? Both of them are great leading the rush, but the problem is they are both the same type of player.

It really looks like Peverley is developing into a Savard-esque playmaker. He has that same gift of making a split second decision and delivering a crisp pass right on the tape.

Kozlov still looks lost…the other teams are giving him all kinds of space and he is just indecisive.

World Be Free

November 6th, 2009
8:37 am

JLH and Thrashers27- I have to say Max actually played a good game last night. He used his speed to create a penalty and played a pretty good all around game. A good all around game for Max, that is.

He still likes to pass to nobody on occasion.

World Be Free

November 6th, 2009
8:39 am

Every forward on this team would be better if they played with Peverly all the time. Pevs is a complete hockey player.

Glovesave29

November 6th, 2009
8:42 am

I cannot put that one on Ondrej last night. Remember, the goalies job is to square up and take the shooter, and rely on the D to cover any passes. Last night is squarely on the weak side wingers for not covering the Jackets in the slot on the pass from the deep corner. Pavalec actually has decent lateral movement, but because he leans so far forward, momentum takes him to far. If he learns to stay back a bit and off of his toes, he will find it easier to control when he moves post-to-post.

If Slater and Kozlov were covering the off winger as they are supposed to, those two wide open shots Torres buried might not have happened. The D was in the proper place – one pressuring the puck and the other on the near post. Slats doesn’t seem to take his time in the press box to heart – I am seeing NOTHING out of him. Slava – as I said in the off season…time to hang them up.

Trixie (Rawhide's Secretary)

November 6th, 2009
8:56 am

Ms. Sara & Mr. Matt – Both of your posts have been freed up.

Stan Drulia

November 6th, 2009
9:20 am

Is the game on Saturday going to be on Center Ice??? It is another one of those ones with no TV coverage noted on the schedule. Sunday too…

Jimbo

November 6th, 2009
9:23 am

I am sick and tired of JA and DW using the old “fragile team” excuse for a lack of hustle and intensity early in the game. Johnny Boy- get .em reved up in the lockerroom ready to do some damage at the opening whistle (by the way, a little more physical play might also help). I’ve followed a number of NHL teams over many decades and almost all worked at creating a dominating first period. The theme that “you’re in our home and we’re about to shove you around” worked for many of those teams. Teams hated to go to Philly, Detroit, St. Louis, Boston et al. C’mon John forget the mental stuff, shake em, kick em, insult their parents, feed them raw meat, but forget the “fragile crap”.

Midfield

November 6th, 2009
9:31 am

It looks like Anderson just can’t motivate some guys to stay focused and prepare themselves for games at home. Bogosian was embarrassing yesterday night. We know that he can play, but he was not ready last night.

Smoothie

November 6th, 2009
9:37 am

hip czech – I was wondering the same thing about Bogo and Enstrom. I’m wondering if Zach’s success offensively has him a bit too focused on pushing the puck and jumping into the rush to score goals. Plus, when he is not using his body to knock people around that makes Tobes less effective. For right now, until Kovy comes back at least, I’m wondering if pairings of Tobes & Pavel and Z-Bo & Hainsey might be a good idea.

Also, is it too crazy to think Chris Schubert should play some forward to sure up our 2-way play? Way too much floating again last night on 3 of the 4 lines (especially Slater who kept turning back up ice rather than cover the slot / goal like a center is supposed to do). I’m a bit concerned about Armstrong as well since he doesn’t seem to have the same burst he had before the groin. He’s certainly not fast by any means but he looks particularly slow on the back-check and his ass was dragging back on the 1st goal. Of course, Bogo got completely turned around and too focused on the puck. Had he just dropped down to the post, then Tobes could have been more aggressive sliding over to Voracek. Speaking of Czechs, could Jakob look any goofier than he does?

Rawhide

November 6th, 2009
9:47 am

Kozlov still looks lost…the other teams are giving him all kinds of space and he is just indecisive.

hip czech – I agree. In the third period he had a wide open shot from the right circle. He hesitated…just a second…between a one-time slapper or moving in with the puck. That was all the time the goalie needed to position himself.

Is the game on Saturday going to be on Center Ice??? It is another one of those ones with no TV coverage noted on the schedule. Sunday too…

Stan Drulia – The game on Long Island is schedule to be aired on MSG+. Thus, I would stongly believe that it is on the NHL Center Ice schedule.

Speaking of tomorrow night’s game, it looks like those of us watching the game at TJ’s will get to utilize the separate party room in the back.

Toby

November 6th, 2009
9:51 am

Wow… the 450 in attendance saw another awful start. Kozlov needs less ice time and Slater can be shot out of a cannon. Spencer needs to be called up.

World Be Free

November 6th, 2009
10:00 am

The best motivator for some players is time in the press box. ask Max, he’s spent enough time “up in the air” in Buffalo the past few seasons. Real hockey players use their time up high to refocus themselves.

Glovesave-I agree with your observations from last night’s game.

hip czech

November 6th, 2009
10:04 am

WBF…or a demotion…send Slater down, bring up another winger and let Kozlov be the scratch for a few games (won’t happen, but there it is).

Smoothie

November 6th, 2009
10:16 am

Our 2nd line should be Kane – Pevs – Army. Period. End of story. Everything else gets put together around that keystone line.

Move Little to LW so he can play with Whitey (as center) and the Big A, who is struggling to score goals from in deep because his reach is too long. He’d be better from the wing and side crashing the crease as pucks come out towards him. He’s getting jammed and can’t find the biscuit to deposit into the basket.

Kozlov needs to go to the 3rd line to play with Reasey and Max. Remember last season how Marty excelled playing with another good puck handling playmaker (Kozlov > Perrin) and a speedy wing who can get to the corner (Max > Stuart) and wreak havoc. If JA can convince Mad Max to stay in the corners and control the cycle (a la the PP), then that line might just work.

4th line is a conundrum right now as Slater’s defense is wretched. Put him back in the box till he remembers what a center does. Don’t know who you would call up because a) Krog is Krog, b) Holzy isn’t ready, and c) Espo is gonna need time to gain his confidence back. BUT! There’s a guy by the name of Gratton who seems to be the nasty go-getter we need right now to light a fire (even Boulton seems to be sleep-walking out there). Move Thorbs to center since he’s capable of winning draws and can play responsibly down the middle. Flank him with Boults and Gratton and let them beat the heck out of people. Or put Schubert on one of the wings to sure up the defensive coverage. His booming shot might create some loose change for Thorburn.

Tom

November 6th, 2009
10:21 am

Can we give away the tickets to Section 113 to the homeless outside? Or move a whole 300 section down to 113 to make it look like we have fans at the game. 109 – 111 look okay on tv and so does 119 -122 but that 113 is just killing me. Especially since the one family sitting there in the row right by the glass are friends of mine. And I know how they get their free tickets. ugh…

Tom

November 6th, 2009
10:25 am

Rawhide Is the viewing party only open to adults or can teenagers come. My son has a 5 pm game up at SGAA so we will be on the northside and might drive up to TJ’s to visit. Leaving him in the car is not an option according to my wife so he would need to enter the building. :-)

Spud Webb

November 6th, 2009
10:28 am

Slater should be gone, been said a million times.
Thrasher27, the beauty of Max is a game like last night, makes it even more maddening (spelling?) when he lays eggs the next game. Again, all the talent in the world!!
Not sure what to say about the slow starts?? Thorburn get out there and drop the gloves??? Bolts??? Anybody?? Something, anything!!!!

Rawhide

November 6th, 2009
10:30 am

Tom – Your teenage son is welcome in TJ’s. My boys attend with me regularly there and they are 17 and 16.

Ryan C

November 6th, 2009
10:43 am

Garon played alright, he stopped a pretty good shot by Slava, but Slater needs to do better with a puck alone in front of the goal. He’s getting good passed from Thor and Bolts who are working hard in the corners and behind the net, and then he seems to not realize you need to elevate the puck on your shots. Bogo and Tobes aren’t talking or reacting well to each other in our own end, they seem pretty comfortable in the offensive end though. Slater killed me by not coming back with Torres on the second goal. Max is really something, I don’t know if he can play a lick of positional hockey, but he’s flying all over the place trying to track down the puck or carry it into the offensive zone, I think if the people on his line start to learn his tendencies we’ll see a few less giveaways on blind passes. I have to agree with putting Schubert on the fourth forward line, that way Popovic can play and we have a solid defensive O-line, Slater needs to sit a night and realize he’s not out there to skate for a breakaway, he needs to play better team hockey, we could be bringing up players from the Wolves that are making the same kind of mistakes that he’s making. Perhaps he needs a stint in Chicago.

Eileen

November 6th, 2009
10:57 am

Seriously, the games need to start at 7:30. At 7:00, there are so few people there. It must be very discouraging to look into the stands and see all of those empty seats. There were considerably more by 7:30, although not even close to half full. I think if fans think they can make it to the game for a 7:30 start, it may encourage a few more people to buy a ticket. The spark is really gone from the games without Kovalchuk.

stendec

November 6th, 2009
11:00 am

Wins excite fans! Wins put fannies in seats. Wins unite! Losses have the opposite effect. Losses deflate true (notice that word Tim and Sara) fans! When a team loses consistently at home close or otherwise) then fans rightfully stay consistently away. Fannies not in seats! Losses splinter. Even most mediocre professionally teams go all out for home fans. Not the fall behind early then come up just short in another gag Thrashers! When the UGA football Dawgs surrender less than 50 points that is a moral victory. There are no moral victories in professional sports! All these professional athletes are well paid to win. Yes, win! That is why scores are kept in sports. Close losses on the road will not cut it. Close home losses are totally unacceptable! Idiot fans (you know who you are) will crow when Thrashers just miss playoffs about how close they are to getting over the hump. The hump is here! Look at all the points the Thrashers are giving away on home ice. Anyone else understand my frustration? The boat has sprung a leak and no one is bailing the damn water out! The vessel does not have to sink. It will unless someone starts bailing! Immediately. See Coach John Petrino went to the Mark Bicht School of Motivation. What a clueless putz! Best my friend. Peace. ++STENDEC++

stendec

November 6th, 2009
11:10 am

Bill. Forgive several typos in previous post. Still highly aggravated over yet another heartless home debacle. Against a physically exhausted group of weary road warriors. Proud for Columbus. Felt bad for Pavs. Those two Sori Letemin whiff goals he surrendered did him in. Those do not go in then Thrashers triumph. Oh well. I have my bucket. Let the bailing begin. Peace. ++STENDEC++ Anyone else as pi$$ed off by Coach John Petrino post choke comments as I am? Grrrr!

JLH

November 6th, 2009
11:14 am

EA

November 6th, 2009
11:22 am

I have to vent a little here. We leave our house at 4:30 to make it to CNN in time to catch a bite to eat. Even at that time, the traffic from the north side is horrendous. We spend $15 to park, $$ to eat and last night $8.00 for 2 sodas during the game. Add in the tickets. There are nights like last night when we didn’t feel like going, but because we want to suupport the team along with being season ticket holders, we make the effort. All we ask in return is a 60 minute effort. This season the players need to realize that they have to win back the numerous fans that left last year. Even though I think a later start time would help those who can’t leave early, winning is what really counts. It is really frustrating to continue to watch the team fight back from a deficit only to come up one goal short.

Rawhide

November 6th, 2009
11:30 am

EA – Such vents are welcome here…it’s part of the reason there is a place for readers to comment.

Now, to those giving voice to the 7:00 vs. 7:30 start times…last night when I placed that option in the poll, it got me thinking about that whole debate and put some ceribral activity to the subject. As such, I will post a blog tomorrow morning that is dedicated to just that issue and will be looking for your feedback.

I know the Thrashers marketing guys have asked for STHs to chime in on the matter in the past, but it might be good to get some input from all fans that attend the game…or, for that matter…don’t attend because of the start times.

Shannon

November 6th, 2009
11:33 am

Honestly, Jim Slater could not score a goal if the net was as wide as the whole rink. I know he is a great guy, but he had so many blown opportunites last night, it was really sad.

EA

November 6th, 2009
11:40 am

Thanks Bill, I am home today with my sick daughter who chose to comment as well. I haven’t seen you at the games lately. Our paths must not have crossed. Hope to see you soon.

somaatl95

November 6th, 2009
11:42 am

I posted this earlier on TSN.ca/nhl to combat the remarks from others about our attendance and thought it would work well here as well –

“To everyone commenting on the attendance at Phillips – The game starts @ 7, with a puck drop usually at 7:10. Atlanta traffic is a nightmare, coupled with the fact that our ‘mass transit’ system was developed in 1971 when Atlanta had less than half of the population it has now. I live about 18 miles from the arena – on a good traffic day it takes about 25 minutes but during rush hour it takes at least an hour. If you watch more than the first ten minutes (or early highlights) you’ll see by the start of the second period there are a lot of people who arrive late. In one of the Hockey blogs in the Atlanta Journal there are lots of people that have asked the Thrashers organization to move puck drop to 7:30 PM. The attendance comments would stop. To the people constantly bringing up that the Thrashers are for sale or should move – stop! C’mon now – didn’t we all learn that if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all? To everyone else – yes, its heartbreaking to see the team play better in so many areas and still be lacking in defense, especially on home ice. If we had the road mentality we have had as of late we would be winning our home ice games as well – hopefully Anderson can light a fire under the players making the stupid mistakes that lead to easy goals for the opposition. Also I find it interesting that many teams have star players out with injury, but nobody gangs up on Washington when AO is out and they notch a loss or two – given a few basic corrections the Thrashers may surprise a lot of you – And to those that want to make some snide remark back to me about what I have said please know that I’m not trying to stir anything up or tick anyone off – there are a lot of rabid hockey fans in Atlanta but you wouldn’t really know that unless you are here for a game and see that what is on TV and what is in reality are two very different things. If you have center ice switch between both feeds of a single game and you’ll see two entirely different takes on the game being played. Have a good weekend everyone and enjoy watching your teams this weekend.”

Just my take on the whole thing – they REALLY love to dog on us and I hope we can prove all of them wrong with a decent Home Ice turnaround and some other team can become the favorite “Whipping Boy” of Canadian Hockey Fans and D-Bags from the Northeast.

Smoothie

November 6th, 2009
11:48 am

Traffic was particularly bad last night…I didn’t go to the game but it took me twice the time to get home and I have a reverse commute! I’m sure the bad accident on 400 SB prevented a bunch of folks from getting to the game on time. I will give the 6 – 7,000 credit though as they were loudly chanting “Let’s Go Thrashers” several times in the 3rd.

But EA is right, the team needs to take it more personally that the crowd is so small. People are skeptical and a lot of fans are waiting for something to get excited about. Obviously, the current affliction where by we spot the other team 2 or 3 goals does not make for an enthusiastic and raucous crowd until it is too late. Time for these guys to get pissed off and start playing with a chip on their shoulder and prove to the city of Atlanta they are worth the price of admission, horrible concession service and crunk traffic!

RS

November 6th, 2009
11:49 am

Part of the perceived problem with Atlanta’s attendance is the club section. That’s the section that people see on TV. At last night’s puck drop there couldn’t have been more than 50 people over there. It does eventually fill up some, but that looks terrible.

Nikita

November 6th, 2009
11:53 am

Why do we drop games at home? Let’s see — is anyone there to see the team lose? By the looks of the tv broadcast, no, they are not. As much as I get the whole “I paid a lot for my seats and don’t want the great unwashed in my section” business, I really, really think the management needs to do absolutely anything to get butts in those lower-level seats. I’d suggest starting with selectively promoting upper-level ticketholders into the cheaper lower-level seats if they arrive prior to the game. Your seat’s normally in 300? Since you arrived at 6:45 and have a sign, you’re moving to 120. Obviously the prime seats wouldn’t get that treatment and it can’t be done all the time, but for non-tv games or games against low-ranked opponents, why the hell not?

Morale is a big issue with this team. That’s why they win on the road and lose at home. The arena energizes them or sucks the energy out of them. Also, to a lesser extent, when on home ice they fall into the ancient patterns of being reactive rather than proactive.

As to last night, ATL-CBJ is not the most thrilling game to watch because CBJ is like NJD in that they have good defense and often it’s not so much a thrill ride as a war of attrition. That said, I watched it anyway.

I thought Pavs did o.k., but both of the out-of-position goals were inexcusable. Relative to Lehts, he too often leaves large portions of the goal uncovered. He has some distance to go.

Slater is, meh, past his expiration date. Yes, he was a high draft pick. Whatever. He could possibly develop further, but he’s not showing any appreciable improvement. He’s allowed to skid along at whatever standard he sets and that standard seems fairly low. The rest of his line put in a lot of hard work over the summer and you can tell. But he’s still performing like it’s 2008, and eventually his poor performance is going to affect the others. Don’t we have any grinders in Chicago who would like a shot at the big time?

I’m quite happy with White, Kozlov, Little, and Peverly. I’m not thrilled with Kane — he’s good, but I think he’s in a position that is out of line with his skills at this point.

Altogether, meh. We could’ve won, and it’s pretty pathetic that we did not.

somaatl95

November 6th, 2009
11:56 am

I wasn’t disagreeing with EA, in fact I agree completely. It is kind’ve hard trying to justify attendance when anyone who watches a Hawks game at Phillips sees a packed house. And yes, the concessions are really bad most of the time, especially given the fact that price should reflect service and most def does not. I still believe in the Thrash though, they just need basic adjustments and playing with their heads and the losing at home (and attendance) will change.

Rawhide

November 6th, 2009
12:02 pm

somaatl95 – Very well done, thank you for sharing…and welcome!

Ryan C. – Welcome to you as well and great points.

EA – Please tell the young lady that I hope she feels better soon. Also, I’m happy to see that she isn’t feeling bad enough to not post on today’s blog! :grin: Also, please give my best to your young man.

Family issues have kept me from attending last night’s game and the one last Thursday as well…but I’ll have the Divine Mrs. R and both tax exemptions along with a guest or two with me on Sunday. I hope to see ya’ll then.

Last 3 Thursday night games

November 6th, 2009
12:13 pm

I agree with the lack of a crowd. Though the good thing is I can move down to much better seats. They seem to have the talent and skill this year, but not if they keep playing 40 minutes instead of 60. Did anybody watch the Habs game on Center Ice? Hockey games on the canadian stations is SO much better than games on in the states. Awesome camera angles and lots more cameras.

Smoothie

November 6th, 2009
12:16 pm

Bill, first of all, see you on Sunday. Myself, Ms. “ten” and our friend Jen will be in our normal seats in 318. Perhaps we can meet up between periods for some chatter as we’ll probably head downstairs for a smoke break. I may come your way and track you down…you in your normal sec?

Secondly, since you are planning on writing a blog that excoriates the ASG for poor choice of game time etc (well, I hope it takes them to task in the same vein as the blog about the poor relationship with the old Flames players), please make sure you include a paragraph about the absolutely wretched concession service in the upper level.

The employees are as slow as molasses and they never have enough product. I can understand not opening many windows when the attendance sucks during the week, but can we at least get better employees who actually give a crap about good service (I know, easier said than done)? But that is the ASG’s responsibility as owners and operators. I try to bring friends who aren’t as familiar with hockey to learn the game and its embarrassing as hell for them to see how loyal patrons are insulted with pathetic service!!

hip czech

November 6th, 2009
12:23 pm

ditto on the concessions…my kids like to get one of the cinnamon pretzel things on the first level, last game we went to they were OUT during the first intermission, so we all had to stand around and wait while they made more. That is inexcusable, if you don’t plan on having the product ready at the INTERMISSION that’s pretty sad.

Plus, even when they DO have product, the concession workers really are slow as molasses.

I grin and bear it forking out outrageous prices for concessions because it’s a treat for the kids and ostensibly is helping keep the Thrashers here (I hope).

The CBJs have financial woes far greater than the Thrashers…wonder how long it will be before the Canadian press starts talking about Columbus moving to (fill in the Canadian city).

World Be Free

November 6th, 2009
12:24 pm

I am becoming concerned about Evander Kane. Even my wife noticed he’s getting pushed around alot.

I wanted to send him back to juniors, just becuase I did not think he was big enough to survive an entire season. He’s “game”, but I am just concerned what his overall play will be in February-March, will he be able to contribute. That hip check on him was a dandy.

Attendance-losing your top drawing card for a month does not help. atlanta traffic will always be bad, until we get some creditable public transportation.

Alan R.

November 6th, 2009
12:34 pm

until we get some creditable public transportation.

That’s a huge problem in this city. There are smaller metro areas with better mass transit, yet we’re stuck with this “blast from the past.” MARTA should have invested the money they had in the system when they had the chance instead of blowing it all.

Smoothie

November 6th, 2009
12:38 pm

WBF – Kane is taking his lumps, but he’s not backing down. In fact, he made several good hits after he was summarily dumped by Klesla on the hip check. He’s still working hard and I think he will learn from some of these recent games where teams are pinching him and exploiting his tendency to shoot the gap along the boards.

Certainly we need to worry about his body wearing down over the course of a long season, but I don’t think it’s time to cut his minutes. I think he needs some PP time and the opportunity to work with time and space. Plus, when Kovy comes back he’ll get to play with Pevs again and that will help. Actually, I see no reason not to put him back with Pevs now (see my post above).

Rawhide

November 6th, 2009
12:46 pm

Smoothie – As per you 12:16 pm comments…I do not yet know where we’ll be sitting. I’ll find that out when I pick up the tix from will-call…then I’ll shoot ya a text.

As for the Thrashers organization and the relationship between the former Atlanta Flames and the NHL Alumni in the area…I will indeed be posting a followup to that story in the coming days. I don’t wanna give away too much here…but it’s good news.

Also, I’ll keep your suggestion about the concessions in mind. It may not be a part of the 7:00 vs. 7:30 blog…which my online editor would like for me to post sooner rather than later…but it would make an excellent topic nonetheless.

Will we be seeing you and the lovely Miss-Ten Saturday at TJ’s?

Smitty

November 6th, 2009
12:47 pm

I have to agree with Stendec. Until the Thrash start winning at home on a more consistant basis the seats are going to remain empty. I do not like the fragile label. This is hockey!!!!! Toughen up!!! How many of us would last at their jobs if you only worked 5 or 6 hours as opposed to 8?

I know some of my fellow WNY’s have it in for Max. You cannot teach speed and Max has plenty of that. Defensemen have to skate backwards a little faster when Max is carrying the puck and that creates space. When his linemates learn how to take advantage of that space he creates maybe that could develop into some exciting hockey. I think he has been adequate defensively.

Slater needs to soak his hands in some DOWNEY for a couple of days. Kozzy is looking slow and indecisive. White looks like he did a couple of years ago. Colby must still be hurt but at least he will hit somebody. Would like to see Kane-Peverly-Max on a line.

Pavs was left alone a lot last night. Maybe the defense pairings need to be tweeked. Several of the goals last night were due to the Thrashers being on one side of the ice leaving weak side wide open for Columbus.

Will TJ’s also show the HNIC game Saturday? Like to watch Coaches Corner and the Hot Stove during the intermissions.

World Be Free

November 6th, 2009
12:56 pm

Smoothie-Kane
That’s what I am worried about, Kane taking and givings hits.
You’ll notice guys like Kozlov avoid those types of hits. The NHL season is alike a marathon prize fight. It’s long and you’re not as chipper in the 15th round as you were in the 2nd round.

Guys that “play bigger” than their size usually feel it later on. My back and hip tell me that every day!

Smoothie

November 6th, 2009
1:02 pm

Dwayne

November 6th, 2009
1:07 pm

Kane to top line. Slava to 3rd line

Rawhide

November 6th, 2009
1:10 pm

OK…if you wanna continue to discuss last night’s game and all that you may continue to do so here.

However, as I’ve discussed, here is a new blog to express your thoughts about the weeknight start times.

I’m hoping you all chime in on this topic, ecspecially you lurkers…and you know who you are…as I know it is read by the people who make such decisions.

Tony C.

November 6th, 2009
1:52 pm

Yeah the accident on 400 was a killer-we left roswell @ 6:00 and didn’t get to the train station exit until 7!!!