Thrashers set to face first big test of season

Unlike the last couple of seasons, when game number two followed right behind game number one the very next night, we are being forced to endure five days in between Saturdays 6-3 romp over the Bolts and Thursday’s game in St. Louis. And I don’t know about you…but it just seems like it’s taking an eternity to get from there to here.

Of course, it’ll take even longer before we get to head back down to Philips Arena for the second home game of the year. After playing the Blues, the Thrashers make their way to Ottawa for a date with the Senators, then we wait again for next weekends games in New Jersey and Buffalo on Friday and Saturday nights.

Lot’s-o-gaps in the schedule early on, eh?

Then there is a return trip to Canada the week following…Montreal will be the destination this time…before finally welcoming the Washington Capitals to town on Thursday the 22nd.

Yup…nothing like a nice five-game roadie toward the beginning of the season to provide a nice test for the team. A lot of people gasped at the sight of such when the schedule came out last summer…as well as the seven-game roadie around the holidays…but personally I think this affords a fantastic opportunity for the Thrashers to further gel and bond as a unit.

How many points will the Thrashers earn during this road trip?

  • Zero: They're gonna lay a big goose egg! (1%, 1 Votes)
  • 1 - 3: Looks like a very un-good trip (4%, 4 Votes)
  • 4-6: Something in the mushy middle (49%, 51 Votes)
  • 7-9: Very nice roadie on tap for LeThrash! (40%, 42 Votes)
  • 10: That's right, you heard me... all TEN Ba-BEEEeeee!!! (6%, 7 Votes)

Total Voters: 105

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As an example, let’s travel back to last February when the team headed out west for a four game excursion. At the time the Thrashers were long-since removed from any playoff contention and they were facing some teams that were in the thick of the postseason hunt. Anaheim and San Jose eventually made it in while Los Angeles faded away…but at the time the Kings were riding a 7-2-1 streak when the Thrashers made their way to SoCal.

In short, there weren’t too many in Thrasherville that expected much from the team on that trip.

But we remember what happened, don’t we? On a Sunday evening they stepped on the Ducks 6-3…the very next night they found it was good to beat the Kings, 7-6 in a shootout…and wound up the roadie with a 2-1-1 record and played some pretty darn good hockey throughout it.

That was about the time a lot of fans here started to realize something good was happening with this team…and the solid, more consistent play continued for the remainder of the season.

Fast-forwarding back to present day…there is much we can learn regarding the makeup and character of this year’s edition of the Thrashers team early on as three of the teams they’ll face on the road trip qualified for the postseason last year…and Buffalo and Ottawa are not exactly pushovers either.

As for Thursday’s opponents…the Blues should be over any jetlag experienced from returning home from their opening pair of games in Sweden. Of course, being able to come home with two wins against the Big Red Borg certainly makes getting re-acclimated to the central time zone just that much easier for St. Louis. Last weekend they beat Detroit 4-3 and 5-3, though they were outshot by the Wings by a total of 72-55.

For the hometown ice combatants… given that Boris Valabik is out with an ankle injury, the defensive pairing should be the same as against Tampa Bay.  However, Colby Armstrong’s possible return could mean changes in the front lines. If the way coach Anderson divided them up during practice is any indication, Marty Reasoner would slide to the fourth line to center Eric Boulton and, possibly, Jimmy Slater. Army would play on the right side of the third line while Evander Kane remains on the left…Peverley would then provide the pivot between the pair.

This would leave Chris Thorburn to man the snack buffet in the pres box.

As for an extra defender for the trip, that would have been newcomer Christoph Schubert…but per C-Viv, Anderson indicated he was having “immigration issues”. Let’s hope that gets dealt with soon.

142 comments Add your comment

Buzz

October 7th, 2009
8:10 pm

Last year has no bearing on this year, in my opinion. Yes, that was a pretty good road trip, but the rosters change so much (particularly in ATL and LA) that last year’s records mean nothing.

I think the Thrashers have a good squad, but after seeing LA dismantle San Jose last night, I wonder if they are up to the task. We’ll find out soon enough.

I am not sold on the Kane-Peverley-Armstrong line, but it makes sense if coach is gonna throw 3 FAST lines at folks like the Sabres used to do. The goalies are gonna have some terrible stats, but it will make for exciting hockey. We have no Ryan Miller to clean up the odd-man rushes.

I would have left in the minors, personally. I think a Peverly, Reasoner, Armstrong line is almost as good, and you still get to keep Slater strong in the faceoff circle on defensive zone draws.

Time will tell, been fun so far!

R. Stroz

October 7th, 2009
8:20 pm

Second, or Silver

sisu

October 7th, 2009
8:25 pm

From what I have read the reason why Kane is here is because he can play on any of the 4 lines. So who knows where he ends up but based on the townhall before the season the indication to me was that he was here to stay…

As to the Blues, it will be much different result if Opie is flopping around like a fish like the game against Tampa. With the Blues they added a great player basically for nothing in Kariya…I think they can win this in extra period.

Rawhide

October 7th, 2009
8:39 pm

Last year has no bearing on this year, in my opinion. Yes, that was a pretty good road trip, but the rosters change so much (particularly in ATL and LA) that last year’s records mean nothing.

Buzz – Point taken. However, my analogy was made to point out how these types of road trips can produce the type of energy that can propel a team. Much like how the Thrashers came out of that roadie last winter with a sense of accomplishment, so too could this team if they play at the same level over the next five games.

Smitty

October 7th, 2009
8:50 pm

The Blues will be a stern test. I believe the last 4 games should be pretty even. Montreal was out-played in their 2 OT wins. Ottawa barely beat the Leafs last night. The Devils are winless and the Sabres still cannot finish around the net. If Pavs can hold up I think we can go 3-2 maybe 4-1 on this trip.

World Be Free

October 7th, 2009
8:50 pm

St. Louis is young and pretty talentewd. They will be hungry, having finished last year in the playoffs and starting this season pretty strong.

This will be a good test for my favorite phrase, team defense! They have to play as a team in front of Pavs, limit prime scoring chances, win the battle and cover the points. Covering the “D” was a major issue in the TB game.

Any news on Kari? When will he start his rehab assignment in CHI-town? I assume we will not see Kari until November 1 or later.

Wonder when Moose will see some action on the trip?

five_hole

October 7th, 2009
8:56 pm

This will be no pushover game. St. Louis claims that they can roll 4 scoring lines, and they have pretty good D. They’ve been home for almost a week so I’m sure they’re over whatever jetlag they might have had.

Rawhide

October 7th, 2009
8:58 pm

Wonder when Moose will see some action on the trip?

WBF – Next weekend there is a back-to-back set in NJ and Buffalo. I would imagine he gets a start somewhere in there.

sisu

October 7th, 2009
9:31 pm

Hope you are right Rawhide, if Moose is in net before then that means big TROUBLE since Pavs has faltered!

Thrashers27

October 7th, 2009
10:24 pm

“Stepped on the Ducks”…LOL!!! Good stuff! GO THRASHERS!!!

Buzzeng

October 7th, 2009
11:20 pm

“Good to beat the Kings” – Ha! I can always count on a good laugh out of your blogs, Bill. Excellent! I concur – the early road trip may be more about team bonding and team buiding. Let’s hope so! Go Thrashers!

Cup Guy

October 7th, 2009
11:32 pm

Guys… We need to check up here. First off while our D was not that solid expect it to tighten up. We all know that Anderson doesn’t allow slackers to get off the hook. While Pavs was not on top of his game, I do believe that he will be the No 1 guy in the end. Kari is just way to injury prone and I would much rather see him gone now and get something for him as opposed to waiting till it’s to late to get anything. The best thing for Pavs right now is to force him into the No 1 spot. Make him start all the games (except the back to back) and tell him this is your shot and time. Look at Osgood. He was behind Legacy who was behind Hassek. Granted he is without a team right now, but you can’t blame his bad stats last season all on himself. The blues didn’t give him a chance. No Dmen around him = no chance. I seriously believe the Thrashers are going to come home with 5 wins. If i’m right someone owes me a beer. I sit in section 414, with the big Stanley Cup at every home game.

Tom

October 7th, 2009
11:38 pm

I am officially calling it here:

There will be no Canadian team in the playoffs from the Eastern Conference.

None… Not One…

Watching Vancouver take apart Montreal right now just further proves the fact.

Now we can return to our regular programming.

Brendan

October 7th, 2009
11:41 pm

St. Louis finished sixth last year. Sixth. They were 13th at about the halfway point. They became the best 2nd half team in the NHL. They have a few high end draft picks, including a fairly recent 1st overall selection. But, I’m always reminded that the time to beat GOOD teams is in October, before they’ve gotten their ’sea legs’ under them.

I’m hesitant to mention this next point. I realize that we’re not headed to Toronto just yet, but Waddell seems to feel ‘defensive’ about bringing his product to the Great White North, where it will surely be scrutined at a higher level. That goes for Head Coach John Anderson, as well. Toronto fans THINK “we’re nothing but talentless GOONS,” as our games turn into fight-filled bloodbaths. I repeat, “only against the Leafs.” We’re really not a THUG team, like they think.

That said, as this team heads up north, to Montreal and Ottawa, they’re going to be looking at Ilya Kovalchuk. Looking and wishing and hoping that he becomes available on July 1. I don’t personally think #17 is planning any Marian Hossa-like auditions for Detroit on this, or any other, road trip. Not that I’d mind if #17 potted “hat tricks” in any of those games. But they’ll be looking at us. They’ll be trying to size up … if they were Ilya Kovalchuk, if this team is worth remaining a part of. We can wish that they won’t be thinking it. But they will. And even though relocation rumors to places like Winnipeg will continue to fester, those media outlets in Ottawa and Montreal will evaluate our franchise, in terms of where it is, where it’s been, and where they think we’re headed. They’ll WRITE about it. And they’ll either declare (1) Atlanta has turned the corner, Ilya’s got to be thinking about staying after all, or (2) they’ll proclaim that these are the same ol’ Thrashers, nothing special, headed back to the lottery draft, yet again. Then the other Canadian media outlets will run with the syndicated story. I know. Why should we care? They’ll never give us a fair shake, anyway. Fair enough. But what I’m saying is … we have the chance to SHAPE THEIR OPINION with wins over Montreal and Ottawa.

Think about that for a minute. Ottawa had a terrible season, and was forced to make the Heatley trade, plus a “gift” 5th rounder, to San Jose for Michalek, Cheechoo, and a 2nd rounder. If Ottawa loses to Atlanta, they are going to question where their season is headed. Considering how low they view our franchise, that is. Okay, let’s look at Montreal, who made a STATEMENT during the offseason. I got the message loud and clear. Montreal had 10 pending UFA’s, and NONE of them (zero) got re-signed. Instead, they traded for Gionta, added Cammalleri in Free Agency, along with Hal Gill and Jaroslav Spacek, etc. Bob Gainey, the GM, felt the heat. Montreal SPENT BIG MONEY. And if the result is … they CAN’T EVEN BEAT THE THRASHERS, it’s going to have its effect. As Sage of Bluesland says, “The Threat is Real.” Lose to us, and you can and maybe WILL get fired. I’d love to see the Icebirds have this kind of early-on effect.

World Be Free

October 8th, 2009
5:35 am

Like I said Brendan, as long as Kovy remains unsigned, his status and our future will remain media kindling. Not until he’s signed will it put out the fire.

Distractions

GaVaHokie

October 8th, 2009
8:20 am

A win tonight will go a LONG way on this road trip… I think we can walk all over Ottawa on Saturday, they did not impress me one bit the other night against Toronto. Leclaire is standing on his head to keep them in the game.

I think tonight’s game will be more physical than Anderson thinks… I believe they’re expecting a big game of “keep away” and “fast breaks”, but St. Louis can pound you. I hope we’re ready to do the same.

J.B.

October 8th, 2009
8:30 am

Rawhide- “Christoph” Schubert, not Christen.

I expect we collect 8-10 pts. on the roadtrip.

Smoothie

October 8th, 2009
8:37 am

The biggest distraction is not winning. If the Thrashers win games then the media might forget about the Kovy situation for a minute and actually talk about what a nice team we have assembled. A 10/22 showdown with Wash for 1st place would distract the media.

Tall order tonite against the Blues but our team can skate with anybody. Tighten up the D and keep shots at Pavelec’s # or less and they can come out victorious. A 4 – 1, or even 3 – 2 roadie will do wonders for this young team’s early season confidence.

Sara

October 8th, 2009
8:37 am

One, never take any opponent likely – if we didn’t learn that by watching our own team down the stretch last season, it’s sure a lesson the Pens learned last night (snicker snicker). Two, this is also the Blues’ home opener so they should be pretty fired up. We have to be equally fired up and ready to go from the drop of the first puck to the final horn.

Sara

October 8th, 2009
8:39 am

likely .. *sigh* not enough coffee … never take anyone lightly

J.B.

October 8th, 2009
8:45 am

Sara – BTW, Nice comment setting straigh the yankee yahoos about our ownership and the Winnepeg rumor yesterday on the Puck Daddy live chat. Can I assume that WAS in fact you?

five_hole

October 8th, 2009
9:10 am

Sara Was that your “bubble-head” side showing? ;-) I agree, and if there’s anyone we should not take lightly, it’s the Blues. They certainly laid the “smack-down” on Detroit.

Rawhide

October 8th, 2009
9:12 am

Cup Guy – If you’re right and the Thrashers bring home 5 wins from this road trip…I will personally buy you TWO beers!

J.B. – Christen? I wrote Christen?…sigh:roll: Thanks.

h

October 8th, 2009
9:15 am

This will be an interesting road trip…..St. Louis will be tough but the next 4 teams the Thrash play could easily end up in 9th-12th place in the standings. If so, these are the teams you have to beat on the road if you are going to be a good team. I’m looking at 3-1-1 or 3-2 at worst. Anything less means there will still be some work to do IMHO.

Russ

October 8th, 2009
9:32 am

Cup Guy – What are the stakes for you? If they don’t win 5 on the road trip do you buy a beer for everyone at the next home game?

GaVaHokie

October 8th, 2009
9:36 am

I’m kind of glad that St. Louis beat Detroit twice to start the season, because I think the Blues WOULD HAVE been a team we took lightly… even Waddell kind of glanced past them before the season started, discussing how he liked the favorable opponents on the first road trip.

J.B.

October 8th, 2009
9:40 am

Beating the Wings has likely given them a false sense of security as well… Just as those two wins caused the Thrashers not to look past the Blues as an easily beatable team, the Blues may be looking past the Thrashers thinking tonight’s game is likely an automatic “W” for them. They may not be expecting the effort and skill we can dish out and be unprepared to an extent. Just a thought…

Alan R.

October 8th, 2009
9:46 am

Don’t listen to Rawhide, Cup Guy. He still owes me two hot dogs!

GaVaHokie

October 8th, 2009
10:00 am

Bizarre… Bodog doesn’t have any odds lines up for tonight’s games yet.

World Be Free

October 8th, 2009
10:15 am

Smoothie-I agree with you on winning will set aside alotta the rumors about the Thrashers. But Kovy’s signature will put all the moving/selling garbage to bed altogether. I hope our performance on this trip will convince him that we are on the right direction.

J.B.-let’s differentiate between Yankees and Canadians. It’s the Canadians that are chirping all the negatives about Atlanta and the Thrashers. A good portion of us that support the Thrashers are Yankees.

A2B

October 8th, 2009
10:26 am

WBF- well spoken. I’m actually excited bout the road trip the boys are about to embark on. As crazy as it sounds, long roadies make excellent team bonding, and this team shows that it takes this to heart and develops character from it. I expect 3 wins out of this trip and a lot of people having to put their foot in their mouth for previous statements they made about the Thrash. Anyone that was at opening night saw that these boys still have a chip on their shoulder about proving who they really are. I am really excited about this year.

J.B.

October 8th, 2009
10:30 am

WBF- My apologies to you and all offended readers. That’s what a meant. Typed ‘Yankees’ out of habit… I have many many northern friends who I tease in good nature by calling them yankees, especially hockey fans. Either way, the comment was meant more in a funny nature than derogatory. Again, sorry about that y’all :-)

World Be Free

October 8th, 2009
10:42 am

J.B.-absolutely no problem. Just want to make sure we separate the yanks from the Canadians. We have been trying to do the same for years!
Enjoy the game tonight.

World Be Free

October 8th, 2009
10:43 am

A2B-agreed! all the good things that happened with this team last year started on the road, then carried over to Philips. I believe this year is together.

J.B.

October 8th, 2009
10:45 am

WBF- Thanks and duly noted! Like I said, I do know the difference; just typed the wrong word. Doing too much at once this monring…

I have a softball tonight and will be checking the score on my phone in the dugout every chance I get! Was looking forward to catching saturday’s game in beautiful HD but THAT’s not going to happen!

Smoothie

October 8th, 2009
11:02 am

Yes, WBF is spot on to differentiate between our “Yankee” Thrashers-supporting bretheren and all of the ignorant Thrashers-hating “frogs” and “hosers” that don’t know squat about hockey passion in these here parts.

J.B. – you can call me a Yankee anytime as I am from upstate NY. At least I had the sense to get the hell out of there before things got any worse! I feel sorry for my brother who still resides in the sleepy hamlet of Glenville. But I will admit that there are few places that are prettier than the Adirondacks and in particular, Lake George, NY.

Anyway, back on track here. WBF is correct that the only thing to finally silence all of the “haters” in the hockey media is an extension contract signed by one Ilya V. Ko-VAL-chook!! But a successful road trip (I like 3-1-1 or 3-2-0 as a prediction) is the first step towards reinforcing the postive training camp vibes and convincing IVK that this team has real potential.

Predictions? Why the hell not?

St. Louis (OTL) — hard fought 4-3 loss in OT; defensive breakdown (what else?) costs us in the neutral zone leading to a 2-1…Kariya with GW, but Kovy pots his 300th tonight!

Ottawa (W) — province of Otta-WAAA sends in the WAAAAmbulance to dole out drugs to soothe the pain after a 5-2 Thrashers drubbing of the Sens (Colby scores 2 and Kovy with a G and 2 assists)

Buffalo (W) — another exciting, breath-stealing game of pond hockey against the team we love to hate; Thrashers come out on top 5-3 with an empty netter by the Czar to seal the deal

New Jersey (L) — not even a fresh and “loose” Moose can lift the somewhat fatigued Thrashers as a lackluster effort results in the wake of the Sabres hi-octane track meet; Devils prevail 4 – 2, and 36 SOG against spell disaster for the Thrash

Montreal (W) — les Frogs, ahem, les Canadiens sont décimé par un assaut implacable et perdent le jeu au Thrashers 4 – 1. Pavelec shines brightly and Thrashers’ fans’ hopes are buoyed by this loud message delivered by our beloved boys in blue (and white). Kovy scores twice and Antropov sits on Brian Gionta in the crease until he begs for mercy.

J.B.

October 8th, 2009
11:12 am

LOL. The image I have in my head of Antropov sitting on Gionta’s head in the crease has me DYING over here!!!

Rawhide

October 8th, 2009
11:13 am

One other thing to be on the lookout for tonight…Ilya Kovalchuk’s 2 goals Saturday night give him 299 for his carrer. He’s a mere one goal shy of 300!

Russian

October 8th, 2009
11:16 am

**to Smoothie**
I like it. 3 wins and 2 loose. Nobody knows. But I believe in team for this season. They can do a BIG push. May be they will bring all 5 victories. :-)

Paminski

October 8th, 2009
11:17 am

Is there a time limit on being called a Yankee? As most of you know, I’m from Western NY (yes, Sabres are now my no. 2 team), but I have been in Atlanta for over 14 years.

Smoothie – Great predictions! I hope you’re accurate.

sisu

October 8th, 2009
11:20 am

for those that do not like the “face of the NHL” look at the pictures:)

http://www.iltalehti.fi/jaakiekko/2009100810388218_jk.shtml

Dandylions

October 8th, 2009
11:31 am

sisu – priceless!!!! GO THRASH!

kracker

October 8th, 2009
11:33 am

Hey, Bill, Help! I am still trying to talk to Karin about the TJs Party Bus and game ticket. So far, she has not returned my calls. Karin appears to work for the Thrash ticket office, so if the Thrashers are involved w/ this outing, can’t I ask my regular ticket rep to help with getting me on board?

Rawhide

October 8th, 2009
11:39 am

kracker – No worries. I already told her about you and they’ll be a seat for ya! She’ll give ya a call.

sisu – Nice…very nice!!

Smoothie

October 8th, 2009
11:50 am

Russian, if we manage to win all 5 on the road, then I will find the best Russian vodka (actually, any advice on this would be great!) on this planet, add Blue Curacao to it and market it as the Blueland Blast!

But I will personally buy you a vodka drink of your choice at Bill’s Thrash Bash extravaganza on 11/13 if this monumental road-winning streak of 5 comes to be.

five_hole

October 8th, 2009
11:52 am

sisu I think “Sami Lepistö debytoi Phoenixin paidassa ryminällä. ” translates to Sami Lepisto of Phoenix crushes a little girl into the boards. Am I close Russian>

Sara

October 8th, 2009
11:52 am

J.B. yeah that was me. Those people only see what they want to see and what their pandering local media tells them.

Rawhide nice observation about Kovy – 300 sounds so sweet! :D

Smoothie

October 8th, 2009
11:56 am

kracker, worse comes to worse, you can buy my upper deck seats in 318 for $25 apiece and I’ll throw in the Party Bus certificate since Punch Bunny and I can only attend the game. We got the lower level seats, which we plan to use in lieu of our normal season tkts. But if for some reason things don’t work out and you need access to the bus, you can simply have my certificate even if you procure tkts another way.

Tillzy, are we still getting pacifiers for the occasion to dangle in front of Mr. Heatley from Section 121??

World Be Free

October 8th, 2009
12:02 pm

Smoothie-sounds like you have your fingers on the pulse of what’s happening. I hate to toss “Canadians” under the bus, but alotta them have earned it with the garabge they’ve said about the us, both fans and the Thrashers.

Paminski-great question, because I have been in ATL for 15 years!
My trips back to my “old home” become less and less frequent as the years unfold. I even sold my bowling ball.

Alan R.

October 8th, 2009
12:18 pm

Is there a time limit on being called a Yankee?

Nope. You are where you’ve come from.

That said, people incorrectly refer to me as a Yankee, and I’m from Detroit. Figure that one out.

Sara

October 8th, 2009
12:22 pm

“That said, people incorrectly refer to me as a Yankee, and I’m from Detroit. Figure that one out.”

North of Mason-Dixon = Yankee = You :)

Brendan

October 8th, 2009
12:23 pm

Here’s something you don’t see everyday. Detroit and NJ at the bottom of the league. http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?season=20092010&type=LEA They’d be battling it out for the 1st overall pick in the draft, if the season ended today. Chuckling.

And if the season ended today, Atlanta would be #6 and would play #3 Montreal in the opening round of the playoffs. Isn’t this time of year, fun?? I’m just waiting for the Coyotes to win another game for some newspaper to project them as a 115-point team, seeded 1st overall, and winning the President’s Trophy.

J.B.

October 8th, 2009
12:23 pm

oooh damn. did not mean to open up a can of worms with the ‘yankee’ thing y’all. Bill – post another blog quick!

World Be Free

October 8th, 2009
12:27 pm

Up north, I was referred to as a Pollack.
Down south, I am referred to as a Yankee.

Why can’t I just be me? I feel like one of those cavemen in the Geico commercials.

Thrashers27

October 8th, 2009
12:36 pm

Wow! Chellios is a Chicago Wolf…wonder what the likelyhppd of seeing him in Thrashers blue is. Prob. not very, but interesting.

Smoothie

October 8th, 2009
12:36 pm

WBF – that’s pretty funny stuff. I actually LIKE being called a Yankee. And I rather prefer being called a “damn Yankee”, which was common during my collegiate days on a Southern school’s campus . I think we all start out as “damn Yankees” but then graduate to just plain ‘ol Yankee upon acceptance here in the South. As for having my “fingers on the pulse”, I surely hope my predictions make it seem that way when 10/22 rolls around and we’re talking about the 4-1-1 start!

R. Stroz

October 8th, 2009
12:39 pm

LaVallee was just traded to the CBJs.

Smoothie

October 8th, 2009
12:39 pm

http://www.bluelandblog.com/

Boris had the surgery performed already. Colby set to rock the Scot-trade Center tonite!! Hopefully he’ll get the boys really geeked and amped to play some ice puckey!

R. Stroz

October 8th, 2009
12:40 pm

WBF – At least you don’t look like Bobby Holik.

Alan R.

October 8th, 2009
12:43 pm

North of Mason-Dixon = Yankee = You

Broad brushes paint with broad strokes. :P

World Be Free

October 8th, 2009
12:47 pm

Smooth one–The key to acceptance in the south is finding out which college football team each person cheers for. This allows you to befriend them by cheering for their team. If you don’t like the person, cheer for the team they hate! Everybody has a favorite team AND a team they hate.

It’s even more interesting for our kids, who were both born up north and grew up in the south. Seems like most of us have assimilated pretty well, we have hockey as a common denominator.

ranallo10 (in AT)

October 8th, 2009
12:51 pm

I’m from Los Angeles, what does that make me?

Stroz — Too bad, I always pictured him as a decent (at best) third line wing. Any word on what Atlanta receives in return?

Smoothie

October 8th, 2009
12:52 pm

Hockey can definitely bring people together and be a unifying force here in the South. Case in point: Stewart Cink, born and raised in the SE, has two sons that are playing youth hockey. Cink could wind up being one of the best ambassadors of the sport here in the South too. The ASG should really jump on board and use Stewy to promote hockey.

As for acceptance in the South, it was easy for me at Wake Forest where we all loved being the underdog and just about everyone there LOVED TO HATE THE TARHOLES!!! Probably the only reason I stopped watching hockey so religiously was because of my hot, sizzling love affair with ACC basketball in the early and mid 90’s. But nothing will ever measure up to Randolph Childress and Timmy D so I don’t care so much now.

Sara

October 8th, 2009
12:55 pm

ranallo – “future considerations”

I don’t get the point of the trade but “whatev” I suppose.

J.B.

October 8th, 2009
12:56 pm

I think I remember reading that he was unhappy with this organization earlier in the year. Couldn’t tell you where I saw that…

A little off topic- for any of you that follow thrashers news via twitter, are y’all having issues? I’m not seeing updates from anyone I follow. E.g., I missed the post from @BenThrashers re: LaVallee trade.

Can we just give the future considerations we got from CBJ to ANA for Steve McCarthy? I still don’t understand what that means…

Sara

October 8th, 2009
12:57 pm

“I’m from Los Angeles, what does that make me?”

Either fruity or a hippie – take your pick. ;)

“Broad brushes paint with broad strokes”

Duh … it’s the South – that’s how we roll dontcha know?

Sara

October 8th, 2009
12:58 pm

J.B. – I haven’t had a twitter update in hours – it’s bizarre

keith from winnipeg

October 8th, 2009
12:59 pm

has anyone heard the rumours for the thrashers relocating to winnipeg?

World Be Free

October 8th, 2009
1:02 pm

Stroz/Holik-like
My wife would divorce me for being so ugly.
California? Don’t know but are you a USC fan?

J.B.

October 8th, 2009
1:02 pm

Sara – just checked status.twitter.com; they’re looking into the problem now. It must be widespread. Per the site, “We are currently investigating a problem causing many users’ timelines to be delayed. We will update with status here shortly.”

Whenever they get their stuff fixed, feel free to follow @braggjc.

Buzilla in CT

October 8th, 2009
1:05 pm

As a Mets fan I prefer the term “Northerner” to “Yankee”. And “Canadian” was a term for well…Can’t let that one out of the bag on an Atlantian based website.

Sara

October 8th, 2009
1:07 pm

Keith we’ve heard them. They’re all a bunch of crap with zero basis in reality, but yeah, we’ve heard (and read) them.

FormerIslesFan

October 8th, 2009
1:08 pm

FWIW, here is the link to the CBJ site confirming the LaVallee trade for future considerations:

http://bluejackets.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=501474&navid=DL|CBJ|home

J.B.

October 8th, 2009
1:08 pm

Keith – As has been discussed here, on our beat writer’s blog, and on the Thrashers official message boards at great length. The thrashers ARE NOT moving to the ‘Peg. There are other teams that are more likely candidates given the position our owners are in in regards to the arrangement with Philips Arena. Even if they were to go to Winnepeg, it would not be for a number of years.

Smoothie

October 8th, 2009
1:09 pm

What is a “winnipeg”? Skate back to your frozen pond troll!

five_hole

October 8th, 2009
1:12 pm

When do I get to graduate from “damn yankee”?

keith from winnipeg

October 8th, 2009
1:13 pm

lol @ the frozen pond troll, i wasnt trying to stir things up, i just heard about on saturday, was wonding if it was just a manitoba papers attempt to sell papers here

Get The Puck Out

October 8th, 2009
1:13 pm

Chris Chellios signs with Chicago.

J.B.

October 8th, 2009
1:16 pm

that’s the likely motivation keith. winnipeg thrashers is not happening.

Albert the Alligator

October 8th, 2009
1:17 pm

My test for the Thrasher season is to see if I can hook-up with another member of the Blue Crew for the third year in a row. Go Thrashers! Go Blue Crew!

five_hole

October 8th, 2009
1:20 pm

I do want to see the name LaVallee-Smotherman on a jersey. My guess is it would extend from cuff to cuff. BTW, what’s with they hypenation? Did LaValee take his wife’s name?

HookyBob

October 8th, 2009
1:22 pm

I expect I’m from as far north as any US blogger on this site and I make a distinction on being from “up North” and being a “Yankee.” This subtle, but significant, difference comes from the in-laws. My bride is last of many generations whose lineage traces back to forefathers in the Confederate army.

The difference,in my mind is that “Yankee” has a conotation not too different from carpetbagger. In the in-laws eyes I was “Yankee” until we were married. This distinction sorta fits with the baseball world too, doesn’t it?

So in trying to project how the Thrashers season will go I am attempting to narrow down the variables in my equation. With the season being so new there are lots of variables to quantify. I see the biggest variable tonight as how Pavlec does. Right now that is such a wildcard.(After watching him Satuday night it is hard to believe he stopped 36 of 39 shots.) Next is our defence and special teams. Finally comes the other teams strengths and weaknesses,…of which I know very little.

Go Blue,..lets hope that big variable comes out in our favor.

Tony C.

October 8th, 2009
1:23 pm

If they don’t serve grits @ breakfast, if you have to sweeten your own tea-then you come from yankeeland.

duh

Frostbacks come from the 51st state-Canada.

five_hole

October 8th, 2009
1:27 pm

Tony C. If the words “well” “damn” or “here” are polysylabic words, you’re from the south.

GaVaHokie

October 8th, 2009
1:29 pm

Legace and now Chelios… Chicago Wolves are the official Red Wings retirement home.

Alan R.

October 8th, 2009
1:33 pm

Tony, that’s practically everywhere outside of the southeast. Hell, most places in Tennessee that I’ve been to didn’t have pre-sweetened tea. Lazy bums. :P

Keith, the rumor was started by Al Strachan. Well, he was the first person to “report” it, anyway.

I hope Winnipeg gets another shot at the NHL. Just not with the Thrashers.

Tom

October 8th, 2009
1:33 pm

When I first moved down here from New York I had a 70-ish year old (very southern) lady come up to me in the deli I owned and asked me a simple question:

“Do you know the difference between a Yankee and a Damn Yankee?”

I answered as politely as I knew how, “no, M’am”

She looked me dead in the eye and said:

“Yankees go home.”

I still tell this story.

GaVaHokie

October 8th, 2009
1:37 pm

according to Dan Kamal on Twitter… Schubert’s immigration issue got resolved and he’ll play tonight with Salmela.

GaVaHokie

October 8th, 2009
1:37 pm

…also, Popovic and Slater are the scratches.

GaVaHokie

October 8th, 2009
1:39 pm

So… I would wager the lines are as follows.

Kovy Antro Little
Kozy White Max
Kane Pevs Army
Boulton Reasoner Thorburn

Hainsey Kubina
Bogo Toby
Salmela Schubert

Darren

October 8th, 2009
1:42 pm

As per Dan Kamal’s twitter, Schubert WILL play tonight, and Slater and Popovic will sit.

J.B.

October 8th, 2009
1:43 pm

apparently hokie’s twitter is working… i’m still un the dark at the moment.

Smoothie

October 8th, 2009
1:44 pm

Oh snappity snap! Schubert DIPS in for the start vs St. Louis. I reckon JA wants as much beef on the blueline as possible against the Blues. Schubie is 6′3 230 lbs right?

Does anyone know if there has been any other confirmation of Legace signing with the Wolves? The team website says nothing about it and I have not seen his 25 day PTO contract reported anywhere else, twitter included.

Tom – I reckon (yup, I said it!) you are right. You are more likely to go from Yankee to Damn Yankee if you stay!!

Rawhide

October 8th, 2009
1:54 pm

lol @ the frozen pond troll, i wasnt trying to stir things up, i just heard about on saturday, was wonding if it was just a manitoba papers attempt to sell papers here

keith from winnipeg – No worries…we here just have to put up with that type of stuff constantly. tends to get under people’s skins. Unfortunately it’s stuff we’ll have to deal with for as long as Atlanta is south of the Mason-Dixon line.

This is why some of us are going to start a rumor that goes something like …”Wealthy peanut farmer is middle Georgia looking to buy the Toronto Maple Leafs and move them to Macon”. :lol:

Now…speaking of “Yankees” and the “Mason-Dixon line”…I was born just outside of Washington D.C. in Fairfax County, VA. My father and mother became officers in The Salvation Army and came to Atlanta when I was two. By the time I finished the 9th grade I had lived in Virginia… Maryland… Georgia… Arkansas… three cities in Oklahoma,…St. Pete, Florida…South Carolina and then back to the metro Atlanta area in 1980. In ‘89 I moved to Tampa, FL where the Divine Mrs. R and I were wed… and then back to Atlanta, (Cobb County), in 1991 where we have remained since.

So…in the words of Ranallous-Maximus…what does that make me?

Glovesave29

October 8th, 2009
1:55 pm

StL scares me because not only are they fast, talented and young, but they have that tough, lunch-pail type mentality that always translates well in hockey. I can see them hosting a playoff round this season.

Tony C – I got a snotty waitress in St. Johnsbury, VT a few years back get on “us Southerners” because we like sweeet tea, and not merely add sugar to the unsweetened tea at the table. She was completely confused once I explained to her that it’s not the same as sugar does not dissolve into a cold liquid. Sugar should be added immediately after brewing.

Keith – I wont trash the ‘Peg. I played there in a tourney as a kid, and actually had a good time there. No way Bettman will allow the city the size of Atlanta to lose 2 teams. Winnipeg doesn’t have the population or the corporate support to draw on to support today’s NHL. You’d lose a team soon thereafter and you too would be a two time loser. The AHL is the perfect size for a city of your size.

Smoothie – c’mon, Ottawa is not a province, its a city. They still dislike us here in Atlanta because the maple leaf was accidentally upside down at the Jays / Braves world series game. Pleeeeease don’t give them another reason (sarcasm alert).

If they truly love the game up there in Canadia (mis sp on purpose), why do they want to keep it for themselves? Shouldn’t you want to export it everywhere so others can share your passion? How is the league lessened because there are successful teams in non-traditional markets? Carolina was roasted when they left Hartford (sorry Buzilla) and now they are considered a model franchise. Give us time to make the team a part of the city…

Darren

October 8th, 2009
1:55 pm

Smoothie, buried in this story is a line of how Legace was signed for a 25 game tryout with the Wolves.

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=327212

Since it’s not from Hockey Buzz, I can believe it.

Smoothie

October 8th, 2009
2:09 pm

Glovesave – did I type province? Ooops, I slipped up big time there. I don’t know what I was thinking…Ontario, Ottawa, screw it! They both start with ‘O’…close enough!

I too have nothing against the ‘peggers and their love of hockey / desire to have an NHL team. But I’m sick of hearing this crap. We have our ownership issues for sure, but we are not even close to being on the brink of failure and we are a Top 20 media market in North America.

Why would Bettman want to move us to another city? Like you said, the Canes needed time to put down solid roots and I think we can at the very least rival their fan support eventually. This season could be key, but even if they fall on their faces, we are NOT getting sold or moved anywhere. Take that crap to Phoenix or Tampa!

3stripes

October 8th, 2009
2:17 pm

Rawhide: “So…in the words of Ranallous-Maximus…what does that make me?”

A vagabond.

R. Stroz

October 8th, 2009
2:31 pm

Rawhide – That makes you a hybrid.

As a native Atlantan, I could write a book on the differences between those north and south of the Mason Dixon line.

For those of you from up north, many old money southerners like to live a simple life under the radar. In other words, don’t judge a book by its cover, the guy driving an old car and wearing plain clothes could very well qualify for MENSA and have sizable net worth.

R. Stroz

October 8th, 2009
2:32 pm

Smoothie

October 8th, 2009
2:45 pm

If Rawhide were to have a theme song it should be Metallica’s “Wherever I May Roam”…goodess gracious dude! That’s a lot of roaming!

Darren – thanks for the link. Perhaps Chelios can play with his kid as a Wolf someday. I love the idea of Postma learning to play the NHL game from a legend like CC. Just think, Bogey’s got a Ray Bourque influenced game and Postma, Lewis and Oystrick could end up with some Chelios in them…never a bad thing!

Darren

October 8th, 2009
2:49 pm

Great point about Chelios being a good influence on Postma. I’ve got high hopes for him. A defense with him, Enstrom, and Bogosian has great promise. Since Kubina’s only got a one year deal, they might even spring that for next season.

I also think Lewis has potential, although he appears to be more of a defensive-minded player. Unlike Lehman, Lewis looked like he belonged in his one-game call-up last season.

Alan R.

October 8th, 2009
2:51 pm

For those of you from up north, many old money southerners like to live a simple life under the radar

They also like to sit on county boards and deny money for projects, such as installing traffic signals at a local hospital (See: Henry County). The hospital had to pay for their own traffic signal, and installation.

But that’s way off topic ;)

Rawhide

October 8th, 2009
2:53 pm

3stripe & RStroz – I prefer to think of myself as a “semi-native”.

Smoothie

October 8th, 2009
3:16 pm

Schubert’s got a year left on his RFA and assuming Kubina wants to come back another year, there may not be much room at the inn for big Boris if Postma is able to make the jump. What depth we could end up having on the blueline! Did I just type that?

hip czech

October 8th, 2009
3:57 pm

maybe someone hired the Tonya Harding camp to come and whack Boris across the ankle (they tried for the knee but he’s too darn tall).

Good timing to open a roster spot up for Schubert…

Toby

October 8th, 2009
4:03 pm

Slater sits tonight?? We finally have depth!!!

/wipes tear from eye

Darren

October 8th, 2009
4:16 pm

Smoothie, you did, and I’m presuming you did so with a straight face, too. You could make an honest, legitimate case for Bogosian, Enstrom, and soon Postma as being top-4 defensemen for virtually any team in the NHL. Even a few years ago, you could not say that about a single Thrasher defenseman in good conscience.

Now if we could get some consistent goaltending…

ranallo10 (in AT)

October 8th, 2009
4:16 pm

I’m guessing a few people (like LAC, WBF, etc) just had an eyegasm when they read Slater was sitting for tonight’s game. Enjoy your moment!

World Be Free

October 8th, 2009
4:47 pm

kEITH-Here’s hoping Winnipeg gets a team someday, cause you guys deserve one. As long as it’s not the Thrashers, we’ll be happy! We have had enough of the media idiots in Ontario constantly thrashing us!

Winnipeg is a deja vu for me, being from Buffalo. You may not remember, but the old Buffalo Bisons Triple A baseball team left Buffalo after 95 years to move to Winnipeg in 1970. I do not believe the Winnipeg Whips last too many years in Manitoba!

Ranallo-yes, long overdue fir Jimmy but I wasn’t going to say anything!

Brendan

October 8th, 2009
4:59 pm

If the Phoenix Coyotes do relocate, I hope it is back to Winnipeg. At least they won a few playoff series in Manitoba. It’s been a goose egg in Arizona.

Nikita

October 8th, 2009
5:52 pm

Slater’s sitting? That makes my day.

Looking forward to the game tonight. Where’s our prayer?

Brendan

October 8th, 2009
6:02 pm

Dear Lord, let the Thrashers play with the brand of truculence that Brian Burke advocates. Guide their sticks toward the puck in a skillful manner, and give poor Pavelec a break. A-men.

Hockey Biltong

October 8th, 2009
6:32 pm

Worked in Pittsburgh last night and caught the last bit of the can of whip-ass the Coyotes opened up on the Pens!Woohoo!
Canada – snowbirds
California – fruits and nuts
Rawhide – Biltong stalker

Hockey Biltong

October 8th, 2009
6:32 pm

Easy Bill, just joshing!!!!

World Be Free

October 8th, 2009
6:32 pm

Hip Czech-you seen Tonya these days? She’s a monster.
Wonder when she’s going to get a reality show.

Smoothie

October 8th, 2009
6:52 pm

WBF, perhaps Tonya can stuff her fat self between the pipes as the Thrashers goalie if Pavelec doesn’t work out on the roadie!

Smitty

October 8th, 2009
7:02 pm

Moved to Atl in 1986. Live south of the airport and would have been adopted by one of my southern friends but they said I had a speech impediment.

Rawhide

October 8th, 2009
7:27 pm

Watch it, Biltong! :evil:

Sara

October 8th, 2009
7:47 pm

Watching Wings-Hawks until the Thrashers game starts. It’s amazing how crappy the Wings PK has gotten over the course of the last season+. About as bad as the Thrashers have looked. Gee, I can’t imagine that would have anything to do with the coach they hired a season ago …

Smoothie

October 8th, 2009
8:04 pm

Why do these SS hosers always eff up when it comes to the Thrashers? Tennis on Ch 848!! R u serious?

goose

October 8th, 2009
8:34 pm

Kovy just scored his 300th goal.

Chris

October 8th, 2009
9:01 pm

Smoothie- It’s on 884. It says off-air on the channel guide, but it’s there.

And what a goal for Kovy to get to 300. That was beautiful!

Sara

October 8th, 2009
9:35 pm

YAY KANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And Salmela deserves a major kudos for that play at the blueline

Smoothie

October 8th, 2009
9:50 pm

Congrats kid on ur first NHL goal!! Surely the first of many for Kane.

That oughta really piss off the Blues after they dominated us for 15 str8 mins. Kubina’s been huge on the def end and Kane’s goal gives us some breathing room.
Third line looks great and needs to get the majority of mins in the 3rd.

Paminski

October 8th, 2009
9:50 pm

Pevs is everywhere. Peverywhere?

Smitty

October 8th, 2009
9:57 pm

Pavs needs a new glove

Smoothie

October 8th, 2009
10:10 pm

Like right THERE!! Oh darn, I bet he wants that one back

Sara

October 8th, 2009
10:18 pm

Kane nose to nose with Oshie – nice! I love this kid

jared

October 8th, 2009
10:19 pm

is it me or is the kane pevs army line taking every shot and playing every minute with kane on the receiveing end of every hit

jared

October 8th, 2009
10:19 pm

i never exaggerate

jared

October 8th, 2009
10:20 pm

oh and time flies and bulava soars
every commercial break

Smoothie

October 8th, 2009
10:34 pm

Ugly shift (lazy) by Kovy and Antro leading to Blues goal. But Kovy attones with some hard work and earns the EN. Thrash win!

World Be Free

October 8th, 2009
10:41 pm

Very nice, gonna be hard to send “The Real Deal” back to Vancouver. I believe he’s here to stay. Kane is going to take some hits as a rookie. But I think he’ll be taking some numbers too.

St. Louis came out pump, but the Thrasher let the air out of their balloon real quick and never let up. This looks like a very hungry team.

OK Kovy, will you sign now?

R. Stroz

October 8th, 2009
10:41 pm

Is it just me, or does our third line look like our best line?

jared

October 8th, 2009
10:42 pm

jared

October 8th, 2009
10:43 pm

whoa could they become the AMEN line?

LAC

October 8th, 2009
10:44 pm

rannallo, who brings NOTHING to this or other blogs, cannot handle
the chance to get on others, when he has ZERO to say.

Great game, all around, under 30 SOG, that was key. Very structured game by us, and against a team that has been mentioned in the same breath as The Stanley Cup… WE WIN !

Congrats to Evander, Nice goal, excellent passing !

Rawhide

October 8th, 2009
10:47 pm

Great win!!! Let’s discuss it on the new blog.

Brendan

October 8th, 2009
10:52 pm

You’ve heard of E-Trade? Well now, we have E-Kane, the Game Winning Goal (GWG) scorer. Congrats to Kane on his 1st ever NHL goal. That’s one goal, one assist on the season.

It was our own Tony C. who predicted Kovalchuk would win the Rocket Richard trophy for most goals scored this year. Kaptain Kovalchuk now has four (4) tallies in two games. He’s on pace for 164! Kidding.

How about that 4th line??? I didn’t check their TOI, but in the last game, they had just over 5 minutes and I think Slater had six, yet that line was a +1 vs. the Bolts, and Thorburn and Boulton got on the stat sheet. Well, tonight, Boulton got a goal! Not a misprint. Chris Thorburn got his second assist of the year.

What about the D? No goals, but Enstrom picked up his 3rd assist for the season and Salmela had a helper, too. And just a few moments ago, Kubina was awarded an assist on the Kovalchuk empty-netter. Colby Armstrong got his first point of the year, with an assist. Peverley, who had two goals vs. Tampa Bay, picked up an assist tonight, his 2nd on the year. And Marty Reasoner had an assist.

This is impressive. They didn’t just win and get two-points; they played well. They played ‘controlled.’ This is a very good road game. Pavelec still had his shaky moments. But he made a big save last in the third, before St. Louis got their 2nd goal.

Pavelec is now among NHL leaders for wins. Kovalchuk is high on the leader board for goals in this young season. Toby Enstrom’s off to a good start. Anssi Salmela may be putting Boris Valabik out of a job. I can’t see them sitting Salmela anytime soon.

I notice the Blues were trying to go out of their way to hit young Kane. Whenever and wherever possible. I think … that THEY think … they could wear the kid down.

Slava Kozlov wasn’t invisible tonight. That was good. I didn’t catch the final stats. But I want to say it was like 31-22?? In favor of St. Louis. That’s better. Wait, here’s the box score link.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/boxscore.htm?id=2009020042

Marty Reasoner lead the Thrashers with a +2 for the evening. Bryan Little picked up his 3rd assist on the season.

ranallo10 (in AT)

October 9th, 2009
11:58 am

I was being supportive of you, LAC, because I’m sure you just felt the same level of ecstasy I felt the moment I realized Vigier would no longer be a Thrasher. Relax bud, it’s just a blog.

George

October 9th, 2009
12:10 pm

My thoughts after St. Louis win
Schubert looked great! Bogo not his best game, Kane looked good especially on the PK, Antro big and slow??, Pavs looked good although scared me with some of the rebounds he let out, Enstrom looks a little timid after being injured in the off-season. I think you have to give it a few more games and if the top 2 lines don’t start connecting some changes have to be made to them. I am however very happy with the start to the season!