Waddell, Thrashers Giving Max Effort Building Roster
Think about this for just a second…if Thrashers general manager Don Waddell would have told you last April that he planned on bringing in players like Nik Antropov and Maxim Afinogenov to join Ilya Kovalchuk on the top line…that Pavel Kubina would play on defense in the place of Garnet Exelby…and that a veteran goalkeeper like Manny Legace would be brought in to make an already-perceived-deep goaltending situation here deeper still…you would have thought the man had just taken a vicious blow to the head.
What do you think of the Thrashers inviting Maxim Afinogenov to try out with them?
- Thumbs up! (67%, 139 Votes)
- Thumbs down. (6%, 13 Votes)
- I'll let ya know once I see him play with the team (27%, 55 Votes)
Total Voters: 207
Loading ...Maybe one of those acquisitions would have gone down…maybe…but not all four, right?
Well, given the news that Afinogenov has been invited to the Thrashers’ training camp for a pro tryout and the fact that Kari Lehtonen is highly unlikely to be healthy enough to begin the season, it is entirely possible that all four of those players could suit up for Atlanta on opening night. Certainly Antropov and Kubina will…the other two will if the organization likes what they see during preseason.
Many of you have already chimed in on the Afinogenov invite…I’ll just say that I believe it’s a good deal all around. Like Legace, it isn’t costing the Thrashers a dime to see if he fits into the lineup. Also, you have to think that Ilya Kovalchuk is hip to the idea of possibly seeing Antropov centering his line with Max to the right.
Another thing is that it once again shows that Waddell and the Spirit Boys have taken to heart the captain’s words last April when he made it clear what he wanted to see from the team. “We need to sign some free agents and spend some money”, Kovy remarked. “Because I don’t want to compete for a playoff spot, I want to compete for the Cup. I think this city deserves it.”
In short, Kovy told the Thrashers, “Show me the team…then you may show me the money”…and Waddell, Dudley and the ownership apparently made it their mission to build a squad around him that will in turn allow them the privilege of keeping him around these parts for quite some time. They certainly do seem to be giving it…ahem…max effort.
oh come on…you saw that one coming
For this effort, those in the front office are to be commended. Now, let’s see if Kovy is sold on the moves.
Now then , assuming Afinogenov makes the team…and I suspect he will…let’s start talking possible lineups, shall we. The first one that comes to mind looks something like this:
Kovy – Antropov – Afinogenov
Kozlov – White – Little
Peverley – Reasoner – Armstrong
Boulton – Slater – Thorburn
That means Kane would be WHL bound.
Another scenario to bounce around here is one that assumes there might be a trade in order. I don’t think Peverley would be one to go given the fact that it really doesn’t clear off any amount of cap room worth mentioning. However, if Todd White and his $2.3 mil salary were somehow packaged up and moved out, that could help allocate funds for Afinogenov’s contract.
Given that…a lineup could look like:
Kovy – Antropov – Afinogenov
Kozlov – Peverley – Little
Kane – Reasoner – Armstrong
Boulton – Slater – Thorburn
Regardless, the Thrashers would still have players like Crabb, Stewart, Esposito and Fritsche waiting in the wings. This as deep a Thrashers roster that I’ve seen since…since…since…well, since ever.
Thrashers Lose To Predators 5-0 In Preseason Opener
The Thrashers dropped there first preseaon game to the Nashville Predators by a score of 5-0 Thursday night. Here are the particulars. I warn you though that the boxscore is fouled up a bit…case in point, it shows Slava Kozlov playing, though he did not….and Mark Popovic not playing, though he did.
Drew MacIntyre was in the net for Atlanta and stopped 31 of the 36 shots he faced…the Thrashers took 22 shots of their own.
Atlanta did, however, win the shootout afterwards 1-0… And there was much rejoycing.
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Jon
September 18th, 2009
12:15 am
What an ugly game
Thrashers27
September 18th, 2009
1:31 am
Tonight’s loss was fine…Nashville had a lineup which was primarily madeup of starters…I really think that Coach Anderson is either thriyin to put up the smokescreen, or just give he guys a good look. As for Max making the team…as long as he gets JA’s system quickly, fine. If he doesn’t, then he should hit the road quickly. There are too many guys that do get HA’s system and I would hate to see the chemistry fouled up just to give one guy a “look”.
Thrashers27
September 18th, 2009
1:33 am
Yikes! It’s a good thing my job doesn’t depend upon my typing ability.
LAC
September 18th, 2009
2:39 am
With this loss it sure takes ANY wind out of the Thrashers sail for sure, First pre-season or what.
Just goes to show not enough done to make us a playoff contender,
we just don’t want to inprove I am sad to say… Even with it being pre-season, we should have been a little better.
Should make CUTS easy though ! Pretty much all of them who played last night.
ranallo10 (in AT)
September 18th, 2009
3:59 am
Rookies, fourth liners, and AHL veterans versus Arnott, Weber, Sullivan, Dumont, and seemingly the majority the Predators’ top players…there shouldn’t be any surprise in the outcome of that game.
As we’ll say for the next few games, win or lose, it’s just the preseason. The final score does not matter until October 3.
The Real Thrash
September 18th, 2009
6:59 am
I know it’s early but still giving up way too many shots.
Sara
September 18th, 2009
7:19 am
Ben Wright made the point on twitter that the most experienced Thrasher on the ice last night was Eric Boulton…so that tells you pretty much all you need to know.
It would also have helped a lot if we could have actually seen the game to know how certain players performed. Guys like Kane, Esposito, Popovic, Valabik – guys we might see this year or that are expected to play an important role in the near future.
And there was a really big positive in that game, in that the Thrashers killed off all 4 penalties they took, including a 5 on 3. Now, given that overall the players on the ice last night are competing for 3rd and 4th line positions and that the PK is a major issue, that’s something quite hopeful. Sure I’d like to see *some* goals, but that’s what we have pretty much everyone who *wasn’t* on the ice for. But certainly if a player or two really stood out on those kills, that gives Anderson some real food for thought in filling out the lower two lines. I’m still on a push to really consider replacing Thorburn and it ought to be with someone who a – has wheels and b – can kill penalties.
The other “good thing” from last night was Kane drawing a hooking penalty from the goalie. That was just funny.
By the same token, the game wasn’t great. The most glaring thing to me was that we had 5 PP chances of our own, including a 5 on 3 to start the third, and they didn’t convert. But until we put a team on the ice that is comprised of *at least* half of our starters, we cannot possibly derive any type of conclusion about the potential success or failure of the team this season from the results of a preseason game.
NorthStarsDave
September 18th, 2009
7:22 am
Afinogenov, when healthy, is really exciting! It would be a great addition…..
What is the deal with Zherdev?
Is Manny Legace really the answer? Is OP going to stick? And what about Hedberg…a GREAT back-up who understands the role?
Sara
September 18th, 2009
7:26 am
BTW, what’d y’all think of that Phaneuf hit on Okposo? Aside from “devastating” of course. It brings up an interesting debate (at least there was one on Twitter) about preseason play. Should players be going for those types of big hits during meaningless preseason games? The inclination would be to say “no” but what about players who are fighting for roster spots that feel the need to prove to the coaches and GMs they can bring the physical play? Tough call.
For those who may not have seen the clip, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-XEMlMRP-M&feature=player_embedded
Riceowls8891
September 18th, 2009
7:47 am
“Max effort” I saw it coming and it still made me laugh.
I listened to the game early, and it sounded like MacIntyre played well and the rest were overwhelmed. I imagine we’ll know this weekend who played well because the rest will be gone.
Sara
September 18th, 2009
7:54 am
Footage from last night’s game. The fight was good.
http://thrashers.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?id=46698
World Be Free
September 18th, 2009
7:57 am
Preseason hockey is like preseason football. The outcome isn’t as important as the player evaluation. Remember, the Detroit Lions were 4-0 in the 2008 NFL Preseason, and then promptly went 0-16 in the regular season. I would rather see management look at the kids than risk getting our regulars injured in a meaningless game.
Max is free for now. If he doesn’t work out, we can return him to oblivion where he came from. He has talent and needs to play with talent, so we are best to put him from Antropov and Kovy. Like I said yesterday, the only negative to having Max is taking away ice time from a kid who needs exposure to prove his legitimacy at the NHL level.
R. Stroz
September 18th, 2009
8:09 am
By the time Kovy has finished rebuilding this team, we can rename the team the Krashers.
The Real Thrash
September 18th, 2009
8:10 am
A lot of whistling by the graveyard here.
Toby
September 18th, 2009
8:17 am
I was thinking about our possible lineup IF three things were all to happen during camp (I hope they don’t):
1) Kane happens to impress and stays with the team
2) Max pulls 2006 out of his arse and impresses and stays with the team
3) Anderson sticks with the top line he’s trying in camp (I don’t understand why he won’t sick with Little White Russian on the second line after last year)
We would have no choice but to have three scoring lines:
Kovalchuk, Antropov, Little
Kozlov, White, Afinogenov
Kane, Peverley, Armstrong
Boulton, Reasoner, Thorburn / Slater
Waffleboy
September 18th, 2009
8:21 am
Okposo has been in this league long enough to know that when Phaneuf is on the ice—preason or playoffs—you better keep your head up. Its always a shame to see a player get hurt, especially in a preseason game, but the hit was absolutely clean. I have no problem with him taking this shot in preseason.
Bogothrash
September 18th, 2009
8:24 am
As nice as a win would have been let’s keep the game in perspective. This is a pre-season game and the responsibility of the coaching staff is to evaluate the team’s talent to decide which players will provide the best opportunity to win. Like everyone else I can’t wait until the season to start it seems forever when I was able to see live Thrasher hockey.
When the team returns I expect the coaching staff has done their due diligence and provided us (the fans) the most competitive Thrasher team. With that in mind this is the time for the players to demonstrate why they should be playing in the NHL level with the Thrashers.
I am all for Max being brought in. He has demostrated that he has talent and can score. What has it cost the team so far, nothing. Perhaps with a fresh start and playing wing on the line with Kovy & Antro he can return to form. As much as I would like to see Kane on the team it is up to the coaching staff to do what is in the best interest of Kane and the organization. If at this point he has difficulty competing with veterans than send him back to juniors so as not to ruin his confidence. Kane is a valuable asset and the team deserves the best he can offer. If he proves that he is ready and able keep him.
R. Stroz
September 18th, 2009
8:25 am
I just want to see Phaneuf introduce himself to Sean Avery.
Sara
September 18th, 2009
8:30 am
“I just want to see Phaneuf introduce himself to Sean Avery.”
Heh. I’m looking forward to Pronger introducing himself to Crosby, most likely elbow first.
World Be Free
September 18th, 2009
8:37 am
Stroz-right on dude. As Waffleboy noted, everyone should account for Dion when he’s on the ice. Last night’s hit was nothing new under the sun for Dion.
Nice clean hit. Maybe a little much for the 1st preseason game, but Dion is Dion. Hope Kyle is better soon.
GaVaHokie
September 18th, 2009
8:39 am
I watched the Toronto and Philly game last night… Nazim Kadri was pretty damn impressive… if Evander Kane can prove to be 4 picks higher in the draft than Kadri, I’m excited.
With this loss it sure takes ANY wind out of the Thrashers sail for sure, First pre-season or what.
Nah, more motivation for the guys playing tonight to shine… not a single Top 6 forward played last night.
GaVaHokie
September 18th, 2009
8:42 am
Heh. I’m looking forward to Pronger introducing himself to Crosby, most likely elbow first.
Between Pronger and Carcillo, Crosby is in for a rough season.
ben
September 18th, 2009
8:46 am
MAX = Zherdev and he’s better than White by lots when healthy! It’s OK w/ me to send Kane to the WHL after those 9 games unless he rips it up!
Rawhide
September 18th, 2009
8:50 am
What is the deal with Zherdev?
Is Manny Legace really the answer? Is OP going to stick? And what about Hedberg…a GREAT back-up who understands the role?
NorthStarsDave – Zherdev signed with Atlant of the KHL. As for Manny, Opie and the Moose…I think there is a good chance Manny and Hedberg will start the season here and Pavelec will be Chicago bound again. But the next two weeks will show us for sure.
I listened to the game early, and it sounded like MacIntyre played well and the rest were overwhelmed. I imagine we’ll know this weekend who played well because the rest will be gone.
Riceowls8891 – I was listening to The Grand Kamalian’s account of the game as well and I believe he did make the statement that Mac was doing all he could. It sounds like he made some very good saves as well. Thrashers were outshot 17-7 in the first period and Drew stopped the first 15.
As nice as a win would have been let’s keep the game in perspective. This is a pre-season game and the responsibility of the coaching staff is to evaluate the team’s talent to decide which players will provide the best opportunity to win.
Bogothrash – Bingo!
GaVaHokie
September 18th, 2009
8:52 am
Speaking of Carcillo… I thought Philly was crazy for giving up Upshall for Carcillo last year, but it makes sense now. Upshall (while rough and tumble with an offensive upside) probably wasn’t gritty enough, so they bring in Carcillo who’s a real agitator but can also score (ala. Sean Avery).
From a points perspective, I’d rather have Upshall, but Philly has plenty of scoring.
DowntownATL
September 18th, 2009
9:35 am
LAC is right. I’m giving up. Anyone one want my season tickets?
R. Stroz
September 18th, 2009
9:38 am
Sara – Pronger better watch out or Crotchby will get him from behind.
Sara
September 18th, 2009
9:42 am
HA!
R. Stroz
September 18th, 2009
9:44 am
DowntownATL – Don’t give up hope. If I remember correctly, I read somewhere you sit in Sectionn 221. If that’s correct, you are in for a fun season, as I’m sitting in 222 with my BULLHORN.
Daculafan
September 18th, 2009
10:05 am
With the addition of Mad Max…I have officially decided I’d be terrible as a GM…I don’t want to throw anything away..and don’t want to give anything up…I’d have Max..Zherdev, the lineup we already got..Malhotra and anybody else I could get my hands on…playing in this lineup.
I’m excited as a fan about the moves that Don and company are making…it seems to me like they have gotten the message either from the players or the fans that status quo ain’t gonna cut it. I think we’re finally building something that can go somewhere…We may not make the playoffs this year..but it won’t be from lack of trying by the front office.
As far as those that are already down…it was a pre-season game…it means nothing..and particularly these first two on the road…it’s stacked heavy with Chicago Wolves..this is a chance for them to show their stuff…and they were playing against starting lineup Preds…sounds to me like it went like it should’ve on paper.
Wait until we get to the Bulb…those pre-season games will be closer to what our lineup will look like on Oct 3. That’s when it starts to get really serious for us.
I’m pumped about this season!!
Bucky
September 18th, 2009
10:11 am
I see that there is NO mention of a game last night (As of 10am Friday). Typical Atlanta Hockey scenario… Nashville already has a sports front page story: http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090918/SPORTS02/909180372/2072/SPORTS/Predators+roar+into+preseason
…and 14,000+ fans attending a pre-season game. …Hmmmmm!
This could be an interesting season – if anybody cares!
World Be Free
September 18th, 2009
10:12 am
Vets against rookies in last night’s game. If they play this poor by January 1, then we’ll have reason to give up hope. For now, it’s preseason folks.
Rawhide
September 18th, 2009
10:19 am
The Tampa bay Lightning website is stating that the game will be aired on it’s flagship station 620 AM WDAE. Here is a link to that radio station if anyone would like to listen to the game via online stream.
Smoothie
September 18th, 2009
10:33 am
It’s a good thing most all of the players last night were auditioning for a spot on the 4th line (3rd line if your name is Kane or Stewart) as the results were pretty dreadful w/r/t offense. Only 12 ES shots or something like that. More disconcerting may be the play of the defensive pairings (Kulda’s gritty play notwithstanding), especially that of veterans like Oystrick & Valabik. Also unsettling is Salmela’s big fat -3…WTH?? So much for my hunch! Hope they bounce back in Tampa.
LAC
September 18th, 2009
10:52 am
Not giving up, but even though a preseason game, you’d think we could have been better…
Brendan
September 18th, 2009
11:27 am
Raise your hand if you think the purpose of a preason game is TO WIN? Get ‘em up. Nice-n-high. Now, PUT … YOUR HAND … DOWN. No, it’s not. And it’s good to see that so many poster realize that. The point of preseason, in virtually every sport, is to evaulate talent. More specifically, to determine who should and SHOULD NOT be on your final roster.
I applaud the mismatch of talent last night. That’s how a Coach and GM evaluate just how far PROSPECTS have to go … to make the final cut. Traverse City is over. That’s the time for prospects vs. prospects. Now, it’s about (1) making roster cuts and (2) developing “team chemistry” prior to the season. With the former having more importance than the latter. Though, if you’re Atlanta Thrasherrs, you need to have “team chemistry” straight out of the gate, since those points count just as much in October as they do in March and April. I hope Atlanta can come out flying and bank those points against better teams, before those better teams get their sea legs under them.
Sara
September 18th, 2009
12:00 pm
The Falconer was in Nashville apparently for the game and has a really solid write-up along with quotes from Coach and some of the players. McIntyre really impresses me with his attitude. But essentially, Anderson is giving all of our prospects a chance to prove themselves. Think about how many times we’ve heard the platitude that roster spots have to be earned and may the best player win, only we all already know exactly who is going to be given the roster spots. This time around, Anderson means it. It’s a true fight and he’s not going to go ahead and pick a few “chosen ones” to play for the spots, but every last prospect (and apparently a few regulars as well). It gives Anderson the opportunity to truly figure out who’s ready. It certainly sounds like a lot of the guys were a bit shell-shocked at their first experience playing against true NHL talent. And having the prospects skating around like chickens with their heads cut off would throw off any veteran player as well.
I’m encouraged going into this season more than anything else by the approach management and the coaches are taking with the entire process. Spending the summer reviewing PK systems, truly allowing fierce competition for roster spots, not being afraid to explore multiple options. It’s down-right professional even.
Oh, the linky for Falconers’ write-up: http://www.birdwatchersanonymous.com/2009/9/18/1036229/nashville-post-game-anderson?ref=yahoo
World Be Free
September 18th, 2009
12:04 pm
Correct Brendan-but I have to tell, I am staring to get nervous about the goaltending situation. Kari is the real number 1, the rest are pretenders including Pavs. But that wonky back is getting me nervous.
Sara
September 18th, 2009
12:08 pm
Be prepared for potentially more of the same tonight – Tampa’s apparently going with the big guns: Lecavalier and Tanguay on the top line with a rookie and a second line of Malone-Stamkos-Oompa Loompa. Mike Smith in goal for two periods at least.
All info provided by Dan Kamal’s Twitter feed.
Thrashers roster for tonight found here: http://thrashers.nhl.com/club/preview.htm?id=2009010024
In: Pavelec, Doell, Slater, Lavallee, Bogosian, Potsma
Out: McIntyre, Thorburn, Boulton, Popovic, Esposito
(Someone please tell me how to embed the links in this format please?)
Spud Webb
September 18th, 2009
12:14 pm
If max is on our first line this team is in serious trouble.
Smoothie
September 18th, 2009
12:17 pm
Oh dear, Tampa’s line-up is more loaded than Nashville’s was last night. Let’s just hope this time we can score a goal or two.
Smoothie
September 18th, 2009
12:22 pm
Kane – Stapleton – Macho-check vs Malone – Stamkos – Ooompa
If Kane and Co can make some noise against this trio, then perhaps he is for real. Evander should be especially motivated going against last year’s draft’s golden boy. Give ‘em hell Van!!
For the record, per Falconer’s interview, JA was pleased with some of what he saw from young Kane after the initial shaky start.
Alan
September 18th, 2009
12:29 pm
It brings up an interesting debate (at least there was one on Twitter) about preseason play. Should players be going for those types of big hits during meaningless preseason games?
Actually, the question I have is:
Should teams best players really be playing in the first few preseason games of the year? I mean, seriously. There’s no reason Phaneuf *or* Okposo should have been on the ice.
World Be Free
September 18th, 2009
12:34 pm
Some teams want to evaluate, other teams want to use the preseason games for the purposes of getting their team off winning.
Look at the kids tonight and start playing the regulars next week.
I don’t care if they lose tonight. We have to evauate the younger players to see how they perform against NHL-quality talent.
Smoothie
September 18th, 2009
12:34 pm
Alan, I agree with not rushing your best players into pre-season action right off the jump. But I have a feeling it is to drum up interest at the first home pre-season game.
Brendan
September 18th, 2009
12:35 pm
I don’t know how to do the links either, Sara. I need Trixie’s remedial blogging help. We could take the class together? I just cut and paste. That works, but doesn’t allow you to type the text of what you want highlighted.
WBF, I agree with you there. I think Kari is our #1 goalie, but he’s hurt right now, and I’m not sure for how long. If he misses all of training camp and half of October, he’ll be rusty. So, it’ll have to be Moose and Legace or Moose and Pavelec. (Wanted to say “Moose and Squirrel,” since we do have Boris. No Natasha, however.) I can’t get a read on whether Waddell will trade a goalie, or what. And if he does trade one, it better not be Pavelec. He needs just time to develop. That’s all.
If Max Afinogenov comes … I guess I’m fine with him on the 3rd or 4th line. Waddell said the top line will be Kovy-Antropov-Little. That leaves Kozlov-White and someone for the 2nd line. I’m thinking Peverly. But maybe Colby Armstrong. So, the 3rd line could be Reasoner centering (pick one) Colby Armstrong/Rich Peverly + someone else, maybe Max Afinogenov. And the 4th line is Boulton-Slater-Thorburn, lest there be some surprise out of camp, like Stewart, Fritsche, Crabb, Krog, Machacaek, Holzapfel, etc.
If Kane makes the lineup, then things change a bit. I would put Kane on the 2nd line, since that’s his function. Whenever it is that Kane has his rookie season, I want him to get his “fair opportunity” to win the Calder Trophy, not bury him on the 3rd line, where he CAN’T HIT HIS BONUSES. I’d feel terrible for Kane if he were denied his fair shot by being placed on the 3rd line. Although, he may not care. He might just want to make the NHL … and start that clock ticking on that UFA eligibility. Again, if he legitimately makes the roster, fine. I just don’t want him PRESSED INTO SERVICE for financial reasons. More specifically, that’s he’s CHEAPER than some UFA and because he’s less likely to hit the bonuses in his contract playing 3rd line minutes. That doesn’t sound like a “sports decision.” It sounds like a “business decision,” Atlanta Spirit, LLC-style.
World Be Free
September 18th, 2009
12:41 pm
That’s another good point too Smoothie.
GaVaHokie
September 18th, 2009
12:44 pm
Well, if Kane were to get 3rd Line LW with Reasoner and Armstrong… I think the best drill for Anderson to give him tonight, is put him man-to-man with St. Louis. See if he can hold St. Louis in check for an entire game.
Tony C.
September 18th, 2009
12:45 pm
My $0.02:
On the game-look at the rosters; Nash-Vegas is basically going with their starters (a couple of “sure-fire” prospects thrown in but that is most of their “core”) vs. prospects/AHL-only guys. If you’re really worried about the result, realize coach wasn’t trying to win-his quote to TheFalconer:
“Very simple, I want to see if someone can play in the National Hockey League.”
Doesn’t really sound like the goal of this exercise was to win the game. I’m pretty sure that if that was the goal, #17 would’ve laced’em up. So not too worried about the result-more concerned with the play of some of the guys that I thought had progressed a little further than the results f the game show (again-tough to be draw anything close to an accurate read without seeing videoof the game but…), for in particular Salmela-I was/am looking for good things from this guy-what I saw this past spring was very encouraging…now a -3 and barely hearing his name called during the radio broadcast isn’t what I was hoping for.
Regarding the Phuthbert hit-clean but unneccesary. True, Okposo knows that going through centre ice with your head down is asking for it, but I also think Phuthbert went beyond what is called for in a preseason tilt. I wonder if Phuthbert would’ve done that with a team he’ll see more than once during the regular season (my bet is “NO”)? Like say… Anaheim? Anyway, clean hit-but completely uncalled for in a meaningless game against a team you’ll only face once in the coming season. I could/would have more understanding if it was a Flames/Oilers matchup-but there’s a reason they don’t do a “Battle of Alberta” during the preseason-TO AVOID INJURIES! They don’t schedule Avs-deadWings games during the preseason, you won’t see Bruins-Habs games in the preseason precisely because those are situations where tempers are known to flare, and the opportunity for injury is HIGHER THAN IT SHOULD BE. Now Okposo is out for a while (possibly career if concussion-symptoms don’t go away), and what for? A “tune-up” game? What trophy was on the line? Was Phuthbert trying to impress the coaches so he’d make the team? The hit was clean but the intent shows us that once again “The Dion” is kind of a dirty player-sure we all want guys on the blueline to play with a good helping of “nasty” but what most of us DON’T want is a guy that’s going to go out there looking for opportunities to really hurt guys.
Seriously, yeah I’d love to see a guy with Phuthbert’s skills on our blueline (and by all measurements, Msr. Bogosian IS that guy), but I do not want a guy that’s going to be over the edge and ending other guys’ careers strictly for his highlight reel.
Sorry, Phuthbert just rubs me the wrong way. Anyway, Falconer has a “play-by-play” blog of sorts up recapping the preseason game from Nash-Vegas… good read.
http://www.birdwatchersanonymous.com/2009/9/17/1035581/preseason-thrashers-v-predators#storyjump
I’m looking forward to seeing Afineginov(spl?) play with our guys in person… He might just make this team. Certainly his stock isnt what it was after ‘06 and I’m sure we can all remember how easily dude gives up the puck…we don’t need anymore smurfs or guys with size that play like a smurf. Hopefully Maxim has gotten over the oopsies and will take a big role in getting this squad to the playoffs.
Tony C.
September 18th, 2009
12:50 pm
Alan-I can see why you might have Okposo out there-if you’ve got some guys coming up and you’ve already pencilled in your lines a bit, maybe you just want to give those guys every opportunity to gain familarity with each other-that all-important “chemistry”.
Why was Phuthbert out there headhunting? Because he’s a D-bag.
Midfield
September 18th, 2009
1:19 pm
Brendan, Lehtonen is becoming to look more and more as a talented back-up at most, i.e., the guy who is not capable to hold up over the length of a season. Moreover, I heard some rumors that some people in the organization share this view.
World Be Free
September 18th, 2009
1:30 pm
I thought the Dion hit was clean. We can all agree that it was not necessary for the 1st preseason game. But it’s hockey, not the same as the “little girl” NFL. Hockey players like Dion play for keeps all the time.
Hope Max works out.
I said this 6 mos ago-Kari needs a personal trainer. Hockey requires a 12 month commitment and Kari has yet to make this commitment.
Daculafan
September 18th, 2009
1:32 pm
I agree with what you’re saying Sara about the staff really looking at talent this year..and looking to ways to improve this team. It seems to me like we finally have people in here that have a drive to really WIN and not just pay lip service to the fans and the media. I think this will pay off in unexpected ways for the Thrashers…I know already that excitement for this season is at a much higher level than this time last year..I believe that when the on ice product catches up with the expectations we’re going to see an explosion in the attendance (esp once College Football hangs them up).
I think we also need to take some of the individual performances with a grain of salt…would Salmella have done -3 with a true NHL starting lineup group of forwards playing??..I just don’t know…but that’s something to keep in mind.
Alan
September 18th, 2009
1:45 pm
Why was Phuthbert out there headhunting? Because he’s a D-bag.
Sir Sloppy Seconds. Heh.
Also, you might notice that someone else has been using my name on Chris’ blog recently. Notable posts, so far, took place yesterday at 2:47pm and 6:49pm. Those of you who’ve seen me post over the past few years should be able to tell when it’s really me posting.
To the one doing it, I’m flattered, but you’re still a douchebag. This Bud’s for you.
Sara
September 18th, 2009
2:48 pm
Alan what kind of behavior would one expect from someone who isn’t allowed to come sit at the grown-ups’ table? (with all due respect to Chris’s blog of course)
BN
September 18th, 2009
3:00 pm
Who said that Kovy likes Afinogenov? Afinogenov is not like Zherdev or the Anthropomorphic Dude –
Kovy does not to have authority with Mad Max.
Tony C.
September 18th, 2009
3:19 pm
Oh the hit was clean- WBF; I’m not saying it wasn’t-in fact that’s one positive thing I can say about Phuthbert-usually he is a clean (open-ice) hitter. Now as far as after-the-whistle action and elbows in the corner…. a little less clean
Brendan
September 18th, 2009
3:27 pm
Good point, Midfield. I’ve always said, “I don’t care which one is the starter and which one is the backup, but it ‘appears’ that Lehtonen-Pavelec will be the tandem of the future.” That would appear to be so, assuming one of them isn’t traded. I’m perfectly fine with Kari being the backup. At $3 million, that’s not exorbitant for a quality backup goalie in the NHL. There are several teams whose back makes $550K to $850K. Or even $1.0 or just over $1 million-a-year.
Don Waddell drafted both these goalies. He did. So he, alone, is responsible for them being here. He may ‘lean’ on his scouting staff for advice, but it’s Waddell’s call, ultimately. And drafting isn’t a financial decision. It’s the one thing that even a GM presiding over a ‘league-minimum’ budget can control. Is Waddell ‘willing to admit’ he made a mistake with Kari? I don’t know. But trading him would indicate, “YES.” No GM would trade a player he thought was utterly essential. Especially, if he’s the GM that drafted him. Atlanta invested very heavily in Kari Lehtonen. Wonder how Rick Dudley would feel if he knew he’d one day inherit that Lehtonen pick that he convinced Waddell was a good one to take, with his offer of pick #30 as inducement of the 2002 Draft (Jim Slater). Waddell also traded with the NY Rangers to get Ondrej Pavelec in the 2nd round, in 2005. So, how willing is Waddell to part with him? Waddell did not draft Johan Hedberg, obviously. Nor Manny Legace, who is un-signed. I don’t know what it would cost to sign Legace. If Kari winds up the “back up” goalie this season, then so be it. That doesn’t bother me. Let “competition make the best product.”
World Be Free
September 18th, 2009
3:39 pm
Tony C.-I thought the hit was a little much for the first game of the preseason.
The thing about Dion is that I havven’t really ever seen an opposing player lay a good one on him. Someday
NorthStarsDave
September 18th, 2009
4:15 pm
Thanks, Rawhide, for the answers….
So…might it be time for Kari to go? Easier to find a back-up…i.e. Hedberg…than a #1….
What would Kari bring…a top 4 defenseman on more than a one-year deal?
As for the hit on Okoposo…sorry he got hurt…but there is no love lost here…he pulled a Petrino when he left Univ of Minn at midseason…after he said he was staying…dad thought the Gpoher coaching staff was not developing him…
Rawhide
September 18th, 2009
4:21 pm
NorthStarDave – No prob… as for the question of “is it time for Kari to go”, here are my thoughts on that.
yeah, I know…shameless self-promotion
What could we get for him right now? Really, I don’t think too much in and of itself. The market for oft-injured net minders isn’t really that strong. Now, maybe packaged up with prospects, picks, and/or a top-two center might land ya something.
Tony C.
September 18th, 2009
4:34 pm
WBF-no you haven’t and I don’t think you will-Phuthbert likes laying it out but he avoids takin it back-hell he even ducks out when it’s time to answer the bell-When’s the last time you saw Phuthbert drop ‘em against somebody his weight class or bigger?
And when he does?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKTN6xLsQss
ROFLZ
Dwayne
September 18th, 2009
4:49 pm
I do not give a fat rats a$$ that it was a preseason game. It might not have been managements goal to win the game, but it sure should’ve been the players on the ice’s goal to win the game. I do not care about the Detroit Lions either, so don’t bother with that ANALogy. Even tho they had a better lineup, the effort looked bad.
Hockey Biltong
September 18th, 2009
4:49 pm
Woohoo.”Ockey Season……………is upon us!!!!!
LAC
September 18th, 2009
5:04 pm
Gotta love the waddell photo with one of his PRIZE UFA’s Eric Perrin looking over his shoulder… Where was holik, without those two we could have kept Savard… But NOOOOOOOOOO, waddell does his USUAL crap job of hurting the team not helping it.
The only two moves of any note Kubina & Antropov are no where near enough to get this team going… Busy summer…. NOT !
Brendan
September 18th, 2009
5:31 pm
Well, another thought occurs to me. Kari Lehtonen is still RESTRICTED next July. So, this seems to be Waddell’s way of saying, “Don’t expect a qualifying offer next year … and we might trade you at the trade deadline THIS YEAR, if you don’t improve.” If Kari were traded, that gaining team would still own his rights, since he’s a pending RFA. Just a thought.
Chris
September 18th, 2009
6:10 pm
Are you kidding me? We played Nashville’s starters with potential 4th line players, AHL guys, and guys who may go back to junior teams and lose in a pre-season game and some of you are throwing in the towel!?!?!
Some people are just dumb.
ben
September 18th, 2009
7:36 pm
streaming on WFLA, so excited!
LAC
September 18th, 2009
7:37 pm
Bill, appears the Tampa station is doing Baseball NOT Hockey tonight.
Could not locate anything about hockey on their site…
ben
September 18th, 2009
7:37 pm
T-Birds are putting Kane on the ice again.
ben
September 18th, 2009
7:38 pm
WFLA, LAC
Thrashers27
September 18th, 2009
8:10 pm
Anyone else having problems getting the radio to stream? I’ve tried with four different computers and it just won’t load for me.
Sara
September 18th, 2009
8:27 pm
I had trouble using Firefox but got it to load immediately once I switched to IE.
Now, how about that Kessel deal? 2 first rounders, 1 second rounder, then signed for 5 years, $27M. That’s a whole lot of $$ and assets – TO fans better cross their fingers (not Finger).
Thrashers27
September 18th, 2009
8:32 pm
Crap! I can’t get it to work…anybody have a score and/or details?
LAC
September 18th, 2009
8:34 pm
Bruins, Leafs agree on Kessel deal… Interesting…
At least the Leafs GM is proactive…. ours should be in a rest home somewhere far far away.
Yes ben, Rawhide’s link I guess was incorrect…
Sara
September 18th, 2009
8:43 pm
1-0 TB after the first on a late PP goal by Malone. When the TB announcers aren’t drooling over Hedman, they say Pavelec is playing really well.
Thrashers27
September 18th, 2009
8:45 pm
Thanks, Sara!
ben
September 18th, 2009
8:46 pm
i found the link off the web site
tb seems to think we’re deep in goal. But Kari’s almost never healthy. And there’s very little slack left.
Sara
September 18th, 2009
9:10 pm
1-1 in the second. Postma from Slater.
Smoothie
September 18th, 2009
9:22 pm
And the Postma delivers!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good for Paul, perhaps he’ll get a long, hard look next week as a result of his solid play tonight. With the way Salmela, Valabik and Oystrick are playing, perhaps Postma’s got a shot for some call-up time.
Smoothie
September 18th, 2009
9:26 pm
According to the audio-torture team known as Mishkin and Esposito, Pavelec has looked very, very solid in net tonight. Good news indeed!
Sara
September 18th, 2009
9:46 pm
Smoothie – at least it isn’t that douchey duo from Carolina
Sara
September 18th, 2009
10:21 pm
Thrashers lose 2-1 in OT…Vinny and the Oompa Loompa on a 2-0 breakaway. PKers went 1-8 in this game, including another 5-3 in OT. That’s impressive, especially combined with the 4 kills last night. Would be nice if they’d stay out the box more though.
That was a tight game – not sure how well that reflects on TB given they faced essentially an AHL roster. Pavs apparently stood on his head. Hope he keeps that up. The homer announcers gave him the second star.
Looking forward to seeing the team next week when we have more of our regulars worked into the line-up. Don’t think scoring goals will continue to be an issue at that point.
Rawhide
September 18th, 2009
10:31 pm
Sorry about the mix up with the radio stations…620 AM is what the Lightning web site listed as the radio station, but they apparently moved over to 970 WFLA due to conflicts…I was out a dinner getting reacquanted with the Divine Mrs. R who I have very little of this week, so I missed listening to the game.
Anywhooo…sounds like Pavs had a solid game dispite the OT loss…two goals allowed on 34 SOG…only one let in on 30 shots in regulation. I’ll take that anyday. Good for Opie.
Oystrick took a game high 5 shots for the Thrashers and Bogosian played 31:16 according to the stat page I’m looking at…WOW!
Monday night can’t get here fast enough.
Brendan
September 18th, 2009
11:16 pm
Sara, you know I like Brian Burke. But I move offer up that this move was very risky. Was it born of MEDIA PRESSURE?? Whether it was, or it wasn’t, it’s too late now to undo. But goodness, when you’re trying to rebuild, giving away two 1st rounders and a 2nd, to boot, for a player like Kessel had better pay big dividends. Is their plan to build the team around Kessel? As in, “Kessel is our CENTER PIECE,” the way Kovalchuk is here. If so, was Kessel the right choice of a center piece? I hope for Toronto’s sake, he was. This move, pretty much, HAS TO WORK. If it doesn’t, how do they get out of it?, other than to attempt to SPEND their way out of it, Montreal-style, to save Bob Gainey’s job. Conceptually, trying to SPEND (or TAX) your way into prosperity rarely works, if ever. It just leads to more inflation.
I’ve often said … that PART of the reason the Leafs haven’t won a Cup in 40 years resides with its intense media scrutiny. If the Leafs had continued on that ’slow build process,’ ignoring fan and media whining alike, and added another lottery draft pick next year, and perhaps another the year after that, where they might be in four years? The answer just might be, “A whole heckuva lot better than where they’ll be with Kessel.” Instead, they’ve forsaken those draft picks, if I read Sara’s post correctly, for IMMEDIATE RESULTS this year with Kessel.
Five years/$27 million isn’t a disasterous contract. Today, the cap is $56.8 million. Five years from now, in 2014, it very well might be $65 million. Or more. And Kessel’s $5.4 million cap might seem quite reasonable. I applaud that Brian Burke made a BOLD move. I’m just not sure Kessel was the pony to bet on, when we’re potentially talking about two LOTTERY DRAFT picks, and a 2nd rounder. How much difference will Kessel make? And ya know … the Toronto Media will eat ‘im up if he falters, then turn on Burke to assign the blame. Don’t think Ron Wilson’s job is safe as the Gold in Fort Knox, either. If this season goes badly for Toronto, it’ll hit the fan. That “safety net” of the lottery draft won’t be there.
GaVaHokie
September 18th, 2009
11:36 pm
Wow… so Atlanta’s scrubs held Tampa’s finest to a 2-1 OT loss… gotta like that.
Regarding the Kessel deal… boy did Toronto pay heavy for that… what was it, two 1st round picks and a 2nd, and then they gave him $5 million a year for 5 years? Ouch!
LAC
September 18th, 2009
11:53 pm
Boy our goaltending was OUTSTANDING tonight, Pav’s stood on his head for sure, I would really question sending back to Chicago at this point.
We had 26 SOG, so better than last night. Sounded like Zack & Boris played well… Still not seeing much from Kane, feel like another year in juniors would be best.PK was GOOD as well, at least a lot better signs than last night for sure…
World Be Free
September 19th, 2009
12:02 am
Who is going to feed Phil Kessel in Toronto.
Colton Orr?
There’s no five year plans in Toronto.
World Be Free
September 19th, 2009
12:06 am
Two first round picks and a second round pick for Phil Kessel straight up? Boston will be set for awhile.
Sara
September 19th, 2009
12:19 am
5 year plan nothing – the Leafs are on year 42 of the 50 year plan. /snark
I dunno Brendan, $5M/year for a guy who hasn’t even busted 40 goals per season? He’s young, which means he should have lots of upside, but that’s still a hefty price tag. But what they gave up to get him is extraordinary. You’re giving up two first rounders + for one first rounder essentially. That doesn’t strike me as good math.
TO has some good youth in the system like Kadri, Stalberg and Schenn – hopefully enough given the loss of those picks and Burke’s historical inability to get anything of value beyond the first round (and I mean nada – not even a 4th liner).
Most Leafs fans seem pretty torn about this trade so far – even knowing it was coming. And I’ve seen lots of snarky comments from them about Burke building a mini Team USA in Canadian hockey mecca – it’s actually kinda funny. Of course, for me, as always, I’ll be hoping the team continues to implode. My own personal schadenfreude.
World Be Free
September 19th, 2009
5:18 am
Yeah Sara, tough to be American and be in the Leaf organization. Ron Wilson has been up against it from the time he signed on as coach, even though did alot with nothing last season. Seems like the non-Canadian players take the most heat in Toronto. Kessel better get used to it; the Leafs would have been better to sign Kessel to an offer sheet and give up picks #1,2,3 picks vs. two #1 and a #2. Brian Burke couldn’t go back on what he said about Kevin Lowe’s offer sheet 3 years ago on Penner.
The Leafs will be fun this year, with Kessel and their cast of goons.
ben
September 19th, 2009
8:21 am
i’m giddy about the thrash. what say to clear cap room we trade white and kari. remember he has a ton of “potential” left those guys in Tampa sure liked him. Use that money for Max. Then have a 3 horse race for goalie. And salt Kane in Vancouver for a while. Then put him in Chicago for a while. In two or three years, he’ll be on the second line and Kovy will be here, Nik will be here, Max should be here, Hainsey, Enstrom, Bogo. Writing this just now it hit me! This team is going to be very very good in 4 years.
Smitty
September 19th, 2009
8:26 am
I do not know why Toronto is so intent on trading away high draft picks. Kessel can score but Savard or no one like him will be feeding Kessel the puck. I know the media pressure is intense but I thought Burke would not cave in to it. He pulled of a similar deal to get Pronger and the Sedins but Kessel is no Pronger.
Lee
September 19th, 2009
9:44 am
man, we lost again! but, at least it was close. did we win in shootout?
kessell eh? haha, that is gonna be funny in that jersey!
Lee
September 19th, 2009
9:50 am
rawhide-any idea of who will start the first season game??
Rawhide
September 19th, 2009
9:52 am
rawhide-any idea of who will start the first season game??
Lee – Really too early to answer that question…especially in regards to in goal. Pavs apparently looked good last night from the accounts I’ve read. Anyway, ask me that question again in about a week or so.
jared
September 19th, 2009
9:58 am
i am glad that pavs looked good last night. it gives me hope.
What about Postma? he scored the only goal, do we have any idea on his that goal reflected his play for the rest of the game?
Nate
September 19th, 2009
11:22 am
Rawhide – Speaking of Waddell…any word on when these face to face negotiations between he and Grossman/Kovalchuk are supposed to take place???
Rawhide
September 19th, 2009
11:32 am
Rawhide – Speaking of Waddell…any word on when these face to face negotiations between he and Grossman/Kovalchuk are supposed to take place???
Nate – Good question…I can’t say that I have the answer though. It might be something that C-Viv knows about, though…I’ll ask him.
Zoomo
September 19th, 2009
12:17 pm
I went over to practice this morning. Only stayed for the “A” squad’s practice. Max was skating with Kozzy and White. Max still has his skills. He can fly! Nice stick work too. He looks to have no leftover injury issues at all. I’ll be shocked if he doesn’t make the team and at least get a 15 game look on the second line. I think the only thing that keeps him off the squad if if he can’t grasp Anderson’s system and/or has an awful set of performances in the remaining pre-season games. Too mucj talent there to not at least take a flyer and see if he can mesh with the team.
Other random observations: Todd White looks like he’s in mid-season form. Sharp execution in all the drills. Looked like a guy working to make the team instead of a seasoned veteran.
Pavel Kubina is even a bit bigger than I thought. Manny certainly knows how to have fun out there. Very vocal. Postma does not look out of place. 3rd line was Reasoner, Pevs, and Colby.
GaVaHokie
September 19th, 2009
12:33 pm
Zoomo… thanks for the info… just the observations I’d hope to see!
Kovy Antro Little
Kozy White Max
Pevs Reasoner Army
Lets get that 4th line locked up and get the season started.
GaVaHokie
September 19th, 2009
12:35 pm
Kessel is bound to have a drop-off this season with Grabovski and Stempniak/Hagman, over one of the best assist men in the business, Savard.
Smoothie
September 19th, 2009
12:37 pm
Nice report Zoooomooo!!
Potentially, we have the depth to ice three very dynamic lines. However, I don’t know how I feel about having 2 our top centers playing on the 3rd line. The good thing about that 3rd line is the great chemistry Pevs and Army already have.
kracker
September 19th, 2009
2:52 pm
Someone, Lee I think, asked RH who would be in goal to open the season. Waddell was asked the same question in an interview (I forget by who) and he answered probably Pavelec gets it.
So…it’s Pavs backed up by Moose and/or Legace to start? W/ Lehtonen on the injury list, is my guess.
Rawhide
September 19th, 2009
3:51 pm
The Thrashers have made ten cuts from training camp.
“Forwards Angelo Esposito, Riley Holzapfel, Rylan Kaip, Andrew Kozek, Jordan LaVallee, Brett Sterling and Anthony Stewart, along with defenseman Chad Denny and goaltender Peter Mannino will report to Chicago. Forward Kevin Doell, who is under contract with the Wolves, has been released from Atlanta’s training camp.”
Zoomo
September 19th, 2009
4:07 pm
No huge surprises. Although I thought Espo might get more of a look in the pre-season games, but I guess he is too far behind from the injury set back.
Sterling has really fallen in the ranks with the off season moves.
Lee
September 19th, 2009
4:43 pm
Rawhide-thx man, I apreciate it.
Kracker-ya that was me, and yep I think pavs will start too
Brendan
September 19th, 2009
4:57 pm
Sara, I’m not a fan of this latest Burke move. It could work, but in my view, there was just too much risk. Here’s what I think Burke thought. Kessel will be a .47 to .50 goals per game guy. Over 82 games, that’s roughly 38-41 goals a year. Give or take a little. Like you said, “he’s young.” They’re banking on improvement over time. Kessel went 5th in his draft year. I remember, there was a brief time when the 2006 Entry Draft was being referred to as “The Kessel Sweepstakes.” Of course, Erik Johnson was selected 1st overall that year, by St. Louis. Picked ahead of Kessel were Jordan Staal, Jonathan Toews, and Nicklas Backstrom. Picked just behind Kessel, was Derick Brassard, who was THOUGHT to be a lock for the Rookie of the Year until he got hurt. His new 4-year deal, at $3.25 million cap hit, is thought to be the baseline for the RFA contract for Bryan Little, should Waddell be thinking about going PROACTIVE with Little. But I digress.
Kessel’s best years are still ahead of him. Obviously, barring injury. But he’s no Gretzky, Lemieux, Dionne or LaFleur. I’m not too sure Kessel’s shoulders were the best choice for carrying the franchise. I agree with you, Sara. Those future 1st rounders could have been huge for Toronto. Prior to this deal, I had Toronto pegged for 26th or 27th or even 28th in the league. If my projections were to have been correct, or if they still are, that’s a pick inside the lottery draft, as well as pick #33, #34, or #35 in the 2nd round. In Toronto’s shoes, I LIKE what that draft position represents for their longterm future. I might even like it more than Kessel.
Now, as for the salary … we’re all hesitant to spend big, with a potential for a shrinking cap and another work stoppage on the horizon. But if the last Lockout was ANY KIND of indication, the cap will be artificially INFLATED to accommodate the big markets/big spenders, like Toronto, Philly, Washington, Detroit, Boston and Chicago, just to name a few. Shoot, the last games that counted, the Stanley Cup Finals, reverted to PRE-Lockout era RULES!! We had “new” NHL rules through 82 regular season games, and three (3) rounds of playoffs. But then … suddenly … in a dark alley handshake agreement … the league decided not to enforce the rules anymore for the Finals. What CHANGED after the Lockout? Ahhh, I think that trapezoid thingy behind the net is still enforced. But you can hook and hold, clutch-n-grab to your very heart’s content now. Ostensibly. But I digress, once more. If the salary cap EXPLODES in 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, etc., Kessel’s $5.4 million cap hit won’t be an issue in Toronto. They’re not squeamish about spending. They sellout every game. Which is why … in THEIR shoes, I wouldn’t have done this deal for Kessel. Toronto fans will show up no matter HOW TERRIBLE the product is. If the Coach and GM can endure the booing and slings-n-arrows from the media, they’d eventually field a team with high-end draft picks that everyone SCREAMS about. But it takes patience. If Toronto fans grew a set and willfully ABSTAINED from a poor product, Sage of Bluesland-style, perhaps that would alter Toronto’s business strategy, forcing a Kessel-type deal to bring them back. But we know that’s not the truth of the Toronto market. They’ll pay FULL-PRICE for an AHL roster there. There’s no fan accountability in Toronto. I thought Brian Burke would be above this, like WBF said. Hey, it could work, though. If Kessel averages 38-40 goals a season, guys like that are being paid $7.something million NOW for that. Imagine what they’d be paid … DOWN THE ROAD!! Maybe $10 million. It depends what the cap does and if GM’s can show a modicum of restraint when 40-goal scorers hit the open market. If history is any guide, Sara, they CAN’T and they DON’T! They foolheartedly SPEND, SPEND, SPEND. And, as a result, we have franchises in trouble, who cannot compete, even with revenue-sharing dollars, because the cap has been so “cooked” by NHL accountants, to protect the league’s most visible markets. Toronto will probably be “fine” with Kessel’s new contract, even if it seems like a LOT/TOO MUCH right now. Remember Vanek’s deal? A second-year player getting a $50 million deal over 7-years, thanks to an RFA offersheet. That price doesn’t look so bad anymore. Vanek, compared to Drury, Briere, Campbell, and Gomez, looks like a STEAL!!
ben
September 19th, 2009
5:43 pm
The cap will have to shrink. I really don’t think there will be a lockout owing to the downturn which if anything will be worse. Toronto is desperate for a cup and the Leafs ticked off people because they blocked the ‘Yotes from moving north. They had to appease a very angry fan base. That’s why Kessel is there. Hockey blogs spoke of a deal for months al la Zherdev
World Be Free
September 20th, 2009
9:40 am
GaVa-you gotta believe Kessel is going to drop off without Savard and nobody in Toronto to take Savie’s place.
The trade is a huge gamble on Burke’s part. That’s alot to give up for a one dimensional player. Toronto improved its defense, but lacks in overall goal scoring. This could be good for Toronto, if Kessel steps up. But if he fails, this will turn out to be one of the worst trades ever. Bad teams should never trade their #1 pick.
I think of the Oakland Seals trading their #1 in 1971 for Ernie Hickey. Hickey faded in the sunset and the #1 pick turned into Guy Lafleur.
World Be Free
September 20th, 2009
9:50 am
Brendan-sorry I did not read your post before I made my last comment. I have always liked Vanek more than Kessel. Vanek has always been a great teammate, while Kessel’s overall commitment has been questioned. Vanek was benched by Lindy Ruff early in his career, but got the message and improved on his backchecking. And you are correct-at $50M, Vanek is a steal!
My belief is that the only teams that should be giving up no. 1 picks are those in the hunt for the Stanley Cup. We know those picks will be low in the 1st round, good draft or bad. You don’t give up a top pick if you know your team will be decent at best in the coming seasons.
Even Glen Sather knows that.
ben
September 20th, 2009
10:18 am
On the NHL NETWORK last night I saw this show w/ Millbury and he was saying that he thought the Islanders would move to KC if that new building didn’t happen. Why would anyone at all arrive at the conclusion that metro NYC was a worse place than KC for hockey? Have any of you spent time up there?
World Be Free
September 20th, 2009
10:45 am
The Nassau Coliseum on Long Island is the worst building in the NHL. It was built in the early 70’s and has never been renovated to any great extent. The place cannot generate the kind of revenue needed to sustain a team under the current financial conditions. The Islanders have been trying to get a new building for years with no luck on Long Island.
KC has a facility that is NHL ready. There’s a great deal of enthusiasm in Kansas City for a new team, a second chance at the NHL just like we received here in Atlanta. The Kansas City Scouts were a mess in the 70’s to start. The right team will make it in KC, which is a MUCH BETTER option than moving a team to scum city (Hamilton).
Lee
September 20th, 2009
11:06 am
WBF-what division place, conference place, and points do you the thrashers will have?
Thrashers27
September 20th, 2009
11:16 am
Ben, if I’m understanding your statement correctly, you’re questioning why someone would think that it’s a good thing to move the Islanders to KC…Don’t you think it’s a bit of a stretch to call Uniondale “metro NYC”? Besides, Kansas City is a great town which is just as deserving of a hockey team as Atlanta. Especially, to the hockey purists (Canadians) who believe hockey is a latitudinally challenged sport.
Rawhide
September 20th, 2009
11:42 am
G’morning everyone…here’s something for you on this rainy Sunday.
Levko Kopar season with Spokane of the WHL has gotten off to a good start. In Friday’s 6-3 win over Prince George he scored a hat trick. Saturday night, again against Prince George, he leveled the score at 1-1 with a third period goal as the Chiefs went on to beat the Cougars 2-1 in OT.
ben
September 20th, 2009
11:58 am
i wasn’t saying i don’t think its deserving of a team. i was saying metro nyc is the biggest market in northern North America and they should try to give it a go. also, i was not up on the situation
ben
September 20th, 2009
12:01 pm
but only w/ new building. i feel they’ll move
World Be Free
September 20th, 2009
12:10 pm
Lee-3rd in division
8th in conference
93 points
All of these depend on what happens in goal.
I believe the remaining issues with the team have been addressed, to a certain extent.
Brendan
September 20th, 2009
1:31 pm
Hey FIF, I don’t have your “tie-breakers” on your guess of 93-points in our Contest. As you’ve seen above, WBF has selected 93-points, tied to 3rd in SE Division, and 8th in the Conference. If you want to further specify your guess, you have until “puck drop” of Opening Night to do so.
WBF, I agree with your post on poor teams giving up their 1st round picks. Vanek’s deal was premature, but it worked out for Buffalo. I remember the Canadian media snickering, “At least Buffalo managed to lock up SOMEBODY. They should ‘thank’ Kevin Lowe for forcing the issue.” Of course, they might have been right, as Drury, Briere, Dumont, Grier (now returned) all left Buffalo. Would Larry Quin and his “oversight” have thought to lock Vanek up … ALL ON THEIR OWN???
Possibly. But I’d say, “no.” Look at the trouble they just had with Drew Stafford. A two-year deal? They should have locked him up. I think they still can, proactively, down the road. Hopefully, they will.
October 3rd will be here before people think. So, keep those votes coming.
Sara
September 20th, 2009
2:21 pm
Had fun at camp today – the team is still skating like it’s mid-season. It’s amazing how good they look. Max looked pretty good during the drills – his timing was off a bit but that’s not unusual for only having a couple days of practice in on an entirely new team. Didn’t notice him as much during the scrimmage which was awesome. Blue team beat White team 5-2 – notable mostly since Kaptain Kovy was on the White team. Lots of really odd mixing and matching of lines during the game. The only unit that stayed together the entire time was the top line of Kovy-Antro-Little. Otherwise guys were shuffling all around. Little was absolutely flying.
Can’t wait to see how the pre-season games go this week once we have more starters rolling into the line-up. I know Ben said Kovy, Antro, and Kubina for sure will all play tomorrow night.
LAC
September 20th, 2009
3:19 pm
The Sprint Center is now a couple years old, should be called The Big Twelve Arena, because that IS why it was built, the Big 12 Basketball Tourny… NO other reason Period.
Scouts came into the league same time Capitals did 74-75, played at Kemper one more season 75-76 them moved to Denver… Became The Rockies,
lasted until 1982 and moved to New Jersey.
So Denver has had a second chance at Hockey with Quebec moving there.
How would hockey fare in KC ? Last year preseason game between LA-St.L
drew about 12,000. Game this season is again LA-NYI next week I believe.
Will Charles Wang be there ????
It is a NICE building, been there, located in new Power & Light District
right downtown, Hockey would fare better in KC than nba, since So much
KU basketball/Big 12, they would kill nba.
I just wish when the OMNI was torn down, Philips Arena was built outside the city, and just think, where center ice is, is the EXACT spot
where a railroad locomotive fueling facility was once located for passenger trains leaving Union Station, How Things change, Remember taking a photo of Seaboard Air Line 3054 leading The Silver Comet to B’ham, now two arenas… WOW !
World Be Free
September 20th, 2009
4:54 pm
You know Brendan, I have been taken to task on this blog for calling the Sabres cheap. Maybe cheap is not the best work–how about calling them STUPID! They had the chance to lock up Briere and Drury long before either had the chance to walk and didn’t do it. Sabres also had the chance to lock Vanek long term at a more reasonable rate and allowed him to dangle as an RFA. Edmonton didn’t blind side Buffalo, they did exactly what other teams would have done and that’s go after Vanek, a good, young power forward. Now they are playing with Drew Stafford. Then they turn around and lock up guys that don’t produce or play with any heart. But it is nice to see Mike Grier back wearing the Sabres “slug”. It’s the SOS in Buffalo.
Can’t wait for tomorrow night. I’ll give my report after the game. Thanks for today’s update Sara. Couldn’t go today; I was busy building my ark!
LAC, I have never been to KC. All reports have the town ready for the NHL. Kansas City and Winnepeg are the 2 best cities out there that do not have teams. Both cities would be getting a 2nd chance, like Denver and Atlanta. Hartford someday? Maybe
Brendan
September 20th, 2009
6:07 pm
The more I learn about the Buffalo Sabres, WBF, the more I am in ‘disbelief’ at how the team is run. Their owner is a BILLIONAIRE! They sellout all the time. But when it comes to roster decisions, they don’t leave it in the very capable hands of (GM) Darcy Regier. They let this Larry Quinn imbecile intervene and put the kaibosh on anything resembling coherent strategy. Well, again, isn’t it the owner’s job to step in, and step UP to “thank Mr. Quinn for his services, but to let him go?” I’m just asking a question.
In my mind, Buffalo is a very fine hockey market. Their fans are passionate, knowledgeable, and ACTUALLY SUPPORT the team via ticket sales. So, the problem, in my view, is ownership. I don’t think Tom Golisano has any VIABLE excuses. What? Did a Tornado comes through Buffalo, NY and reduce HSBC Arena to rubble? Was there a terrible flood in downtown Buffalo? Did a horrible Earthquake tear apart the downtown infrastructure? Was their Hurricane, (Not the Carolina variety,) that derailed them? Did teenage “pranksters” sneak into their lockerroom and put itching powder in their jock straps? Did the TERRORISTS strike the Buffalo Sabre organization? Nope, I doubt it’s even on Al-Quaeda’s radar, though six of its members were arrested in Western New York, plotting something or other. Weren’t they called “The Lackawanna Six?” But I digress. Tom Golisano is probably insulated from criticism. Does he talk to the Buffalo News regularly? Does the Buffalo newsprint media take the owner to TASK? Are they or are they NOT calling for Larry Quinn’s head on a pike? If not, why not? He’s part of the problem. And they do that … by Calling Golisano out in the local media “to handle his business.” Although, I believe he lives in Florida. Even so, I’d make the trip to The Sunshine State to get his mug on Buffalo TV to explain why Larry Quinn is needed, in “any shape, form or fashion.” And if Golisano says, “I love Larry Quinn. He’s doing just what I tell him to.” Then the reporter should say, “Then you’re a pretty terrible owner–how can you possibly DEFEND what you directed Quinn to do, since he’s doing your BIDDING?” That’s how to proceed.
Does anyone take Bruce Levenson to task, other than on this message board, through our kvetching? I’d bet Waddell quietly would smile from ear to ear if the AJC ran an Op Ed. article titled, “Why a thimble is smarter than Levenson” piece.
ranallo10 (in AT)
September 20th, 2009
6:38 pm
But I digress.
It wouldn’t be a Brendan post unless there was at least one or two tangential comments…that’s just your style.
World Be Free
September 20th, 2009
7:23 pm
Enter your comments here//Hate to say it Brendan, but if a hurricane, tornado or earthquake ever made it through the heart of Buffalo, it would be an improvement. Such disasterous events would merely rearrange the rust and empty, decaying buildings. I am a Buffalo guy for sure, but I am happy to be out of Buffalo and New York State. They are livin’ in the 50’s-1850’s!
Golisano moved to Florida to escape NY State taxes. Most of the old Buffalo money has escaped too, so there’s really nobody there to pony up and buy the team. It’s not like people are flocking to Buffalo with cash. You can’t hear the critics when you are held up in your tax shelter. Larry Quinn is now a part owner and the poop boy who deals with the local media along with Darcy. You can’t fire one of the owners! It’s one heck of a hockey town, there’s rinks everywhere, more in Southern Ontario and Rochester. The fans know they are being jobbed, but they still show up anyhow.
Can’t wait for tomorrow night. Hope we hear news about Kovy soon.
Rawhide
September 20th, 2009
7:56 pm
Can’t wait for tomorrow night. I’ll give my report after the game. Thanks for today’s update Sara. Couldn’t go today; I was busy building my ark!
WBF – If you’ll be at the game tomorrow, look me up in 117. The youngest tax exemption and I will be observing the procedings from that location. Oh, and “amen, that” regarding the ark…I think we’ve had our months quota for rain just this weekend. I spent 4 hours standing out in a field yesterday at my son’s cross country meet. Simply soggy.
And speaking of tomorrow’s game…according to C-Viv, John Anderson says we’ll start seeing more of the “A” team in action this week.
Brendan
September 20th, 2009
8:18 pm
You know what they say about hurricanes, tornadoes, and earthquakes, World Be Free? Pause. They do MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF IMPROVEMENTS.
Rawhide
September 20th, 2009
8:22 pm
Oh…and Carolina has set their lineup. Here it is.
Brendan
September 20th, 2009
8:22 pm
I plead unabashedly guilty, Ranallo (in AT).
Brendan
September 20th, 2009
8:31 pm
Is Carolina’s “Dwyer” the Dwyer that Waddell drafted?
Rawhide
September 20th, 2009
8:39 pm
Brendan – Yup…Patrick Dwyer was selected by Atlanta in the 4th round of the 2002 draft…116th overall.
Thrashers27
September 20th, 2009
9:15 pm
Wow! I was thinking it was Jeff Dwyer that played for Atlanta and not Patrick…after a bit of looking it turns out both Jeff and Patrick Dwyer were in the thrashers organization…don’t know if they’re related, or not, but it is certainly a coinkydink.
Rawhide
September 20th, 2009
9:33 pm
Thrashers27 – I just looked it up. Jeff Dwyer, the 6th round pick in 2000 by the Thrashers and product of Yale University, is from Greenwich, CN. Patrick Dwyer is from Great Falls, Montana.
Don’t know if that rules out being “related” or not…but I don’t think they are brothers.
ben
September 21st, 2009
8:01 am
Not to beat a dead horse, but are there any more news on kovy and how will max get paid. is there a trade to clear out cap space to pay the man.
World Be Free
September 21st, 2009
8:59 am
Bill–Look forward to meeting you and your exemption tonight in 117.
Darkhorse
September 21st, 2009
9:27 am
Looking forward to seeing some live hockey tonight! Doubt there will be very many people there, unless they know how to swim. Can’t believe this rain over the last week. I may have to take a boat to the game from here in Kennesaw.
Rawhide
September 21st, 2009
9:31 am
Darkhorse – You’re coming from my neck of the woods too. This rain is reaching almost Biblical perportions, eh?
And I knew it was going to be a fun morning when I got into the office and the first thing I had to do was help “de-copperhead” the store in the lobby. Nice.
The rain is driving all the little critters to higher ground.
FormerIslesFan
September 21st, 2009
9:45 am
Brendan ,
Hey, sorry about not including the tie-breaker info. I’m going to update my pick to 95 points, 2nd in division, 7th in conference.
As for WBF’s comments above regarding Nassau Colisseum, I could not agree more. I was just up there for a game last season, and having grown up watching the Isles in that buidling, I was shocked to see just how old “Fort Neverlose” has become. It clearly is past its time and unless The Lighthouse project is approved (in some form or another) there is no way the Isles will stay on Long Island past the expiration of the current lease. For those that have not seen it, check out: http://www.lighthouseli.com/
R. Stroz
September 21st, 2009
9:57 am
Darkhorse – Save the copperheads for the Sharks game.
Come here…Dany…Dany…Dany
World Be Free
September 21st, 2009
10:20 am
Former Isles Fan-pains me to see what the Islanders have become. so much talent out the door, a horrible building and fading support. Denis Potvin is one of my favorite players ever and maybe the toughest! Hope it gets better soon.
Darkhorse-I live on top of a hill in Kennesaw, never thought the water would get to me. It almost has!
Smoothie
September 21st, 2009
10:38 am
Ben has posted the line-up for tonite on the Blog…looks like a lot of excitement for the folks who are able to attend. Looks like I’ll get to see Minimum Effortgenov personally when I go Wed night.
Forwards
Kovalchuk-Antropov-Little
Kozlov-White-Peverley
Fritsche-Reasoner-Armstrong
Boulton-Slater-Thorburn
Defense
Hainsey- Kubina
Enstrom- Postma
Vernace- Popovic
Goalies
Hedberg- Legace
R. Stroz
September 21st, 2009
10:41 am
OOPS Darkhorse, it’s Rawhide that is the snake charmer.
ranallo10 (in AT)
September 21st, 2009
10:46 am
Okay, that looks like the top 4 lines that will start the season, unless Afinogenov makes a push for the #2 RW spot.
Defensively it makes sense with Hainsey and Kubina forming chemistry, Enstrom getting ice time and Potsma paired with a NHL caliber defender, while potential 7th defenders pair up on the bottom pair.
I truly hope Legace is getting the ice time this game, as his abilities is more important (in my opinion) than those of Hedberg’s. If Legace isn’t ready the team will be relying on a rookie goalie to backstop them in very important games to start the season. I don’t know if Pavelec is ready for that.
Re: Rain — After the last 5 years of drought I would imagine this is a most welcome deluge.
Spud Webb
September 21st, 2009
10:59 am
Yea, not sure what the next few drafts hold as far as talent wise, but good move by the bruins, should, should keep that team talented for years to come, as long as they don’t blow the picks!!!
As far as the pheonuf hit, I loved it. I never, ever want to see someone hurt, ever. But lets face it, it’s hockey (preseason or not), I WISH to GOD we had one guy in all these years who would do something like that. Teams look over there shoulder, wheres dion, or go out of the game plan to attack and find him. Not the thrashers, we let people skate all over the d&mn place. Sorry, I got a bad case of the Mondays & i’m cranky!!!!!
As for those loser Leafs, someone else posted it, kessell and goons. Buffalo vs Toronto this year will be some good, great WARS, aka fights!!!
Spud Webb
September 21st, 2009
11:03 am
Is anyone else as tired as I of seeing the freaking line??????????????
Boulton-Slater-Thorburn…
Nothing personal against any of them, but for the love of god I’m tired of this line.
Smoothie
September 21st, 2009
11:08 am
I’m really intrigued by the Fritsche – Party – Army line. Kane will probably get his 5-9 game audition, but I think Fritsche has got to be the real sleeper to make this team. Let’s hope he can gel with Marty on the PK and / or force JA to make some tough decisions with respect to not only the 3rd line LW, but also the 4th line RW. Although it will be awfully tough for Joey Crabb, god love ‘im, to beat out a more robust Chris Thorburn.
After watching the replay of the Thrashers @ Sabres, in a game in which Afinogenov scored the 3rd Sabres goal, I was pretty much underwhelmed by him. Peverley was all over the ice and seemed to have a pretty good game forechecking and defending. I hate to say it, but I hope Maxim doesn’t make this team. I really think Pevs will be an important player for us. However, if Kane isn’t ready, and he probably isn’t, then I suppose Pevs playing with Party and Army isn’t such a bad thing.
Rawhide
September 21st, 2009
11:19 am
I’m really intrigued by the Fritsche – Party – Army line. Kane will probably get his 5-9 game audition, but I think Fritsche has got to be the real sleeper to make this team.
Smoothie – I’d like to see Kane get his half-dozen or so games in as well before heading to Vancouver…but if Afinogenov makes the team, then who’s place will EK take in the lineup?
Case in point…assume a lineup that resembles much the way the Thrashers lined up this weekend:
Kovy-Antropov-Little
Kozlov-White-Afinogenov
Peverley-Reasoner-Armstrong
Boltz-Slater-Thorburn
Who get’s bumped for Kane for the first couple weeks of the season…outside of the 4th line, but do we wanna see Kane playing checking-line minutes? Fritsche could possible take Thorburn’s spot…but not Kane, IMO.
Darkhorse
September 21st, 2009
11:19 am
Yeah Rawhide….I might have to seek higher ground and grab some lunch at Old Towne Sports Pub at the top of the hill in Kenn/41. Any excuse to go there is good one, especially the rain. For those who don’t know about the resturant, it’s one of the few I can’t concentrate on a hockey game due to the “surroundings”.
Every time it rained like this growing up in West Cobb my dad would tell me to go sweep out all the water from our flooded basement. That happened way too often.
Excited to see Postma play tonight. What is his current status again? Is he eligible to play for the Wolves? Would be shocked if he made the team just yet. I’m sorta pulling for Fritsche too, as the PK is still a major concern imo and he is known for the two-way play. Some tough calls will be coming later this week.
R. Stroz
September 21st, 2009
11:22 am
I predict the drought is over.
ranallo10 – This is TOO MUCH rain.
Smoothie
September 21st, 2009
11:29 am
Rawhide, hey buddy!
I agree whole-heartedly. ‘Twill be an interesting dilemma if all three players (Kane, Maxim and Fritsche) all play well enough to deserve consideration for the final roster. Since two of them are not under contract, perhaps JA and Don will try to persuade one of them (cough, Maxim, cough) to hang out in Duluth until late Oct or early Nov until it is time to send Evander back to VAN.
MA might could be convinced to patiently await his chance and “chill” at the Ice Forum to work on his skating, fitness and physique while sleeping at Kozzie’s surely large dwelling in Duluth. I reckon his sweetie, Elena Dementieva, will be a bit busy wrapping up the hardcourt circuit in the meantime!
Darkhorse
September 21st, 2009
11:40 am
I’m disappointed the usual 4th line is playing tonight. They’ve played in parts or all of the past two games already. You know what you’re gonna get out of them. Why not play a new 4th with Crabb, Mahachuk, and Gratton for example? Those guys are more bubble anyway and I would think the coaching staff would stand a better chance of learning something new about the “bubble guys”, good or bad, quicker by playing them more. Maybe, just maybe, the Greek Gods are auditioning for there spots though.
Spud-Part of me agrees with you about the Greek Gods line. That line has reached it’s peak and I doubt we can expect much more untapped potiential to come from them. They do everything asked of them fairly well, but I would like to see some new blood in that forth line role. Players that fit on that line though, not smallish scoring forwards put there because of no room on the top lines.
So like Rawhide suggested, maybe Frische could fit there, but not a Kane or Pevs or White. It would be a waste of there talents, nor could they play the roles of tough guys and enforcers.
ranallo10 (in AT)
September 21st, 2009
11:57 am
To be honest I think the fourth line would be rather well off with Fritsche – Reasoner – Boulton. Losing Slater’s faceoff ability is rough though, even though he’s a fourth line talent. Kane – Peverley – Armstrong would make for a third scoring line, but I don’t think they’d get the proper minutes to excel on such a line.
But I assume we’ll be seeing the Boulton – Slater – Thorburn line to begin the season.
mid-ga-hockey fan
September 21st, 2009
12:03 pm
I agree please spare me one more season of “iron hands” Slater.I am sick of hearing about his speed and “whoops Slater loses the puck”Lets try Fritche on that line for a change and maybe our “shut-down” line could possibly use some experience in maybe converting some of Thorbs and Bolts hard work into the occasional goal!!
World Be Free
September 21st, 2009
12:13 pm
Darkhorse-great call on Old Towne Sports Pub. The place was my second home when I worked in Kennesaw. I used to talk my boss into having “meetings” there. Excellent food and atmosphere; right around the corner from the high school.
Fourth line-you folks know what I think of Slater. The line has room for improvement.
Alan
September 21st, 2009
12:23 pm
Who get’s bumped for Kane for the first couple weeks of the season…outside of the 4th line, but do we wanna see Kane playing checking-line minutes?
a. Thorburn
b. … still, Thorburn. No “outside of the fourth line” about it
c. Yes, we want to see Kane play anywhere he could fit in. I’d prefer to see him play on the second or third lines, but he has to get in where he can fit in. If that’s the fourth line, so be it.
Also, I believe he does make the team this year. Thorburn will be put on waivers or will be our 13th forward. He very well could get sent back to Vancouver, but I’m not going to talk like that much is a definitive.
mid-ga-hockey fan
September 21st, 2009
12:30 pm
Would someone please explain to me why the rush to get Kane into the lineup,with the depth that we now seem to have at the forward position,why take the risk of taking someone who has known nothing but success at every level that he has been in and rush him to the nhl and have him struggle with guys that are bigger,stronger and more expierenced than he is and run the risk of setting him back 2-3 years.Bogo was an exception last year as our d-line was terrible and we had to pull the trigger and fortunately he came through it with only a short stint on the DL.The chances of Kane becoming an impact player right away are slim at best,let’s develope him into a solid player first,so that when his time comes,he can jump in at top 2 line capability.We have a depth not seen in Atl since this franchise was formed,don’t waste the resources just for the sake of being able to say “we have 2 teenagers on our roster” Winning franchises develope talent,they don’t just mortgage tommorrow because the masses want it.(remove soap box here)
Smoothie
September 21st, 2009
12:38 pm
We will certainly have a lot of options if Afinogenov makes the team. According to Ben Wright, Mad Max has been playing with Peverley quite a bit in practice of late and JA says “he’s looked very fast and that when he’s out there with Rich Peverley the two of them fly. I expect them to play together when Max plays.”
How about a third line of Army (LW since he’s a righty) – Pevs – Maxim (natural RW)? You’ve got speed galore and a grit dimension thanks to Army. Plus, Army and Pevs already have good chemistry. Problem is who would play RW on the 2nd line in this scenario? Kane? Slater?
2) Kozzy — White — Kane / Slater
4) Boults — Reasy — Crabb / Thor
R. Stroz
September 21st, 2009
1:05 pm
PTI, I knew I shouldn’t have washed my car last Tuesday.
It was the first time I had washed it in about one year due to water restrictions.
mid-ga-hockey fan
September 21st, 2009
1:06 pm
I will also blaspheme here and say that I would love to start the season w/Legace and Pavs in goal,I love “The Moose” but,like X, its time to move on.As far as Kari goes,he would have to work his way back,(pun intended)into the lineup or when healthy,trade for a solid d-man.(given Lehts reputation it would have to be a package with a forward and prospects)We seem to have a lot of potential depth in goal,but in Legace we have a proven winner.anyone…anyone?
Darkhorse
September 21st, 2009
1:29 pm
I knew I shouldn’t have made that joke about needing a boat to get to the game tonight. I just tried to leave my neighborhood off Old 41 near Kennesaw Mtn. for lunch and the road leading to my entrance is compleatly underwater. My 4X4 didn’t even look up to the task. Stop raining! I need my hockey fix bad tonight!
Alan
September 21st, 2009
1:34 pm
♪ How can we dance while our world is turning? How can we sleep while our beds are burning? ♫
jared
September 21st, 2009
3:02 pm
Brendan– what are the requirements for this pool i hear you all talk about.
SMOOTHIE– you raised my eyebrows with your proposed third line. I think would like to see the Max Army and Pevs line in a preseason game.
I am ready for a change on the Greek Gods line. I dont know who i dislike more on that line though. Slater at least has the face offs down, i would say boults has got to go except for his personality, and then there is chris. well i guess chris loses out. Crabb looks like a fun addition, didnt he get a pair of shorthanded goals in one game last year or am i thinking of sir colin stuart?
lee
September 21st, 2009
3:04 pm
hey is the thrashers game on 680 the fan tonight????
Brendan
September 21st, 2009
4:00 pm
Jared, it’s just a contest for the 2009-10 Thrashers Point Total contest. It sometimes does come right down to the wire, for who wins it. FIF, you’re now entered at 95-pooints, 2nd in SE Division, and 7th in the Conference.
And that’s how you make an entry. You post it here, on the AJC blog, for any and all to see. That makes it “legit.” You can change your vote as often as you’d like, but it must be locked in before “puck drop” of Opening Night, on October 3, 2009. We had to set a cut-off date somewhere. That seemed as fair as any. Contest started back on August 28, 2009. So, plenty of time was alotted to submit votes. If you’d like to vote, post a guess as to point total, then place in the SE Division where you think the Thrashers will finish, along with the rank in the Conference.
Smoothie
September 21st, 2009
4:15 pm
Jared — intriguing concept ain’t it?? And as much as I love our blessed little Crabb-cakes, ’twas indeed Colin Stuart who had the crazy short-handed goal proficiency. Crabber was pretty decent on the PK tho.
Smitty
September 21st, 2009
4:28 pm
I have 2 extra tickets tonite in the 300 level Anybody interested
Sara
September 21st, 2009
4:29 pm
lee – the only broadcast of tonight’s game is Carolina’s feed found here: http://www.wralsportsfan.com/999thefan/
Russian
September 21st, 2009
4:52 pm
**to Smitty**
I need only one. Is it free?
Smitty
September 21st, 2009
5:05 pm
**Russian** they are free
Thrashers27
September 21st, 2009
7:40 pm
Are my computers crap, or is everyone having a hard time getting the radio stream?
Curly
September 21st, 2009
7:52 pm
I can’t get the Carolina feed either; neither with Explorer or Firefox. I’m stuck with play-by-play on NHL.com. I was going to go to the game tonight but I’m stuck in Florida. It’s been nice and SUNNY the last three days. Great beach weather.
Brendan
September 21st, 2009
7:52 pm
In the contest, I still have no guesses from last year’s winner, Don, or the runner-up, Glovesave29 (also picked correct # of points,) or Adam, Red Light, Michael B. Shapiro, Bob, Sara, Nikita, Darkhorse, and the master himself, Rawhide. But Rawhide is waiting to post his in a blog specifically for that purpose.
Anyone can get in on this. I do not yet have a guess from Sage of Bluesland, ThrasherNY, NascarDave, Russ, 12345, FrostyTheSnowMan, Brickhouse, Sharon, PUCKJUNQUE (PJ), Polskidawg, Buzilla, Jarndyce, Sweetlew, BaldheadedThrasherFan, Toby, BG33Brown, viking, Christy, Thrashdawg, Kracker, Smitty, Volgrad1985, or Spud Webb. Ranallo (in AT) is abstaining, lest he decide to cast a vote. I’m also missing a vote from GaVaHokie. That can’t be right, can it? I thought I saw a vote from Hokie earlier. I’ll have to go back and double-check.
Curly
September 21st, 2009
8:05 pm
Thrashers27: …. One hour Later …. The Carolina Feed finally popped up. They got it going now. Maybe the Wires were wet.
B. Thenet
September 21st, 2009
8:45 pm
The boys are doing a good job keeping pace with the Hurricanes AHL squad.
Very impressive….
Zoomo
September 21st, 2009
9:06 pm
Antro assists on all three goals so far.
Curly
September 21st, 2009
9:15 pm
Armstrong – 2 shifts; Hainsey – 6 shifts according to NHL.com with 3 minutes left in the third. I wonder if they were injured?
Dwayne
September 21st, 2009
9:27 pm
wow, Thrash give up 22 shots, win 4-2, could not get either radio feed. who scored the 2nd goal, says some guy named unknown wrist shot, who is he??
Sara
September 21st, 2009
9:27 pm
Curly – Ben Wright acknowledged on Twitter the low playing time for both but said there is no info yet on the whys.
Sara
September 21st, 2009
9:30 pm
Dwayne not sure to which second goal you are referring. Thrashers second goal was scored by Popovic, Carolina’s by Brandon Sutter.
Curly
September 21st, 2009
9:30 pm
Dwayne: Popovic. I heard his name a lot from the Carolina announcer Chuck Kay. It sounds like he is making a strong run to make the team
Curly
September 21st, 2009
9:40 pm
The three Stars: Antro (3 Assists), Popo (1 goal – tying goal, +2), Little (1 goal – winning goal, +2).
Sara
September 21st, 2009
9:52 pm
Curly – Ben Wright updated on Twitter – both Army and Hainsey out with undisclosed lower body injuries termed as minor. Will not likely play on Wednesday.
Baldheaded Thrasher
September 21st, 2009
9:53 pm
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Brendan…I’m waiting to see what the final roster is going to be before I submit.
Is Hainsey hurt? The stats showed he only played a few shifts in the 1st period?
Baldheaded Thrasher
September 21st, 2009
10:14 pm
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Never mind I read Sara’s comments.
Brendan
September 22nd, 2009
6:03 pm
Duly noted, Baldheaded Thrasher.