To Zherdev Or Not To Zherdev

The hot-button rumor topic surrounding the Atlanta Thrashers these days swirls around whether or not the team is pursuing one Mr. Nikolai Zherdev…the 6′-2″, 195 pound free agent forward who will turn 25-years only on November 5. And from these speculations rise from the mouths…or in this case, keyboards…of fans the burning question that asks, “Should the team actually take this course of action or not”.

Sparking a lot of this chatter has been this Zherdev quote last week reported in a Russian news source…

Would you like to see Nikolai Zherdev in a Thrashers uniform?

  • Yes! What an offense we would have (91%, 118 Votes)
  • No! Not a good fit (9%, 11 Votes)

Total Voters: 129

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“I have offers from few NHL teams but nothing has signed yet. I think I’ll find new team within 2-3 days. I would like to play for Thrashers because there are few Russian players there. I talked to Kovalchuk and he really wants to see me at the team. Probably I will sign one year deal with Atlanta”.

The link was forwarded to me by a contact I have over there and he verified the translation. So, obviously after reading a statement like that…people are gonna start talking.

After spending four seasons with the Columbus Blue Jackets, he played last season for the Rangers. He has 99 goals and 140 assists in 365 total games and is a -46. 29 goals and 49 assists have come on the power play and he has one short-handed goal. He saw his highest point production during the 2007-08 season while play with the CBJs when he notched 25 goals and 61 points…22 of those points coming while on the man advantage.

Earlier in the summer he was awarded a $3.9 million deal during arbitration…and the Rangers decided to pass.

Now then…obviously the first question regarding bringing him in or not is, “Would he help the team”? Personally, I think the answer to that question is…yes. I would probably even make that…Oh-Hay-ELL YES if certain rumblings are true that Ilya Kovalchuk is lobbying for his services.

The next question would then be, “What would that do to the lineups”? Needless to say he is going to be on the top-two lines… quite possibly even creating a first line centered by Antropov with Kovy and Zherdev on either side. However, I don’t know if I’m a big fan of that thought as it seems better to have Antropov on the right boards instead of in the middle. Regardless…and assuming a White-Kozlov-Little second line…then what becomes of Peverley?

Either way you line ‘em up, though…someone gets pushed to the third line. If it’s not Peverley, then is it White…or Kozlov? It certainly isn’t going to be Little or Antropov. But let’s be honest here… in the big scheme of things, I just don’t think having to make such a decision would be a bad problem for John Anderson to have.

The biggest knock that I’ve heard regarding Zherdev is that he tends to pull a “Casper” or a “Houdini”…or some might even say a “Hossa”… during big games. For example, he went pointless in the seven-game series versus the Caps last April in the opening round of the playoffs. Zero goals, Zero assists, -3 with 12 shots on goals…one-fourth of those dozen coming in game six alone.

Rumor has it the Thrashers are interested in Nikolai Zherdev not Backstrom

Lots of chatter surrounding the Thrashers' possible interest in Nikolai Zherdev, seen here in action against Niklas Backstrom of the Wild (AP photo/Frank Franklin)

Price? Well, the Thrashers have the cap room to bring him in…which would probably cost closer to the arbiter’s $3.9 mil than the two and a half he earned last year. To this question of actual cost, the Falconer has opined, “Can the Thrashers afford Zherdev“.

The Thrashers can indeed afford him…the question is do they want to budget for him? And by “they”, of course, I mean ownership.

As we are now just days away from the start of training camp and but a week and a day from the first preseason game…yeah, I know…one has to figure that something is going to happen soon…if it’s actually going to happen at all.

With all that that said, I officially toss the issue out to you…YES or NO on Zherdev. And if you vote in the affirmative, tell me what you would like to see in the way of lineups.

203 comments Add your comment

A27

September 10th, 2009
5:29 pm

Sign Zherdev already,jesus it is starting to piss me off. Just because we sign Z doesnt mean Kane has to be sent back to juniors he can still win a spot on the team. Look at Red Wings they have many prospects on the lower lines. Oh well screw it start Kane on the 1st line with Kovy……

Brendan

September 10th, 2009
5:52 pm

God Bless Air Canada. Are American-owned and operated Airliners allowed to travel from Canadian city to Canadian City, with “cabotage?”

rightshot

September 10th, 2009
6:03 pm

If according to sources, Donny is waiting to see if Kane makes the team, how long is Zherdev willing to wait. Wouldn’t it be better to sign him first to make sure we have what we need, and Kovy wants, then see if Kane makes it? We could always trade someone if there’s a problem with to many good players on the team. (I wish) I’m more that willing to lose Thorbs and/or Bolton if need be. We could possibly maybe even have 4 scoring lines if that happens. Wouldn’t that drive the other teams coaches crazy. (Before you ask, yes I dream a lot)

BRENDAN- Opening night payroll $51.2, we end up with 98 pts, 2nd in the SE, 8th seed in East

Sara

September 10th, 2009
6:04 pm

Brendan the answer to that would be “no.” And apparently a Canadian airline got caught allowing “civilian” passengers on US domestic flights in addition to the sports team they were chartered to carry. What anyone not affiliated with a sports team is doing on that plane is its own issue. But the fact is the rules have been the rules for a long time, Canadian airlines knew them, someone broke them, and they’ve been sanctioned for it. Unfortunately the NHL and NBA are going to get caught up in the mess.

Dwayne

September 10th, 2009
7:08 pm

96 pts, 2nd in the SE, 7th in East. $$50.9. I am an optimist when it comes to MY Thrashers!!!! Do You Believe in Miracles??? I just made that slogan up, if yall wanna use it.

ben

September 10th, 2009
7:43 pm

Brendan,

$48.56M

92 pts

2nd Division

June 30th, 2010 for Kovy

Z signs! (My objections are only business related. They are real, but my lizard brain wants the red light to burn out baby! Yeah! ::Over the top devil horn gesture.::

Brendan

September 10th, 2009
10:08 pm

ben, you are registered with $48.56 million, sandwiched right between my guess of $48,500,000 and Toby’s guess of $48,600,000. You are also registered at 92-points, with a 2nd place SE division finish, ben. But you did not provide a Conference finish, in the event some other poster picks 92-points. mutton picked 92-points, but he’s got it tied to a 3rd place SE division finish, and 9th in the Conference. ben, as much as I’d like to register that June 30, 2010 vote, there’d be a revolt if I did. The voting on that contest ended back in May, I believe. We might have extended it to June 2009. In that contest, the posters also had to guess WHICH TEAM and WHAT DATE Kovalchuk would sign his next contract. Not everybody picked Atlanta. There are already June 30, 2010 guesses, with “tie-breakers” being 5PM and 8PM, for the “time of day” that the Atlanta Thrashers website officially announces the contract, or if with another team, when the Internet first publishes it.

rightshot, you are locked in with 98-points, 2nd in SE, and 8th in the Conference, as well as $51,200,000 for the budget guess.

dwayne, you are registered at $50,900,000 for the budget guess. And, you are registered with 96-points, 2nd in the SE Division, and 7th in the Conference.

So far, we’ve got five guesses that proclaim the Thrashers to be a playoff team. That’s a lot of positive vibes coming into the season. The highest guess is 98-points and the lowest guess is 76-points. With that kind of range, it’s hard to believe we’re talking about the same team.

Smoothie

September 10th, 2009
10:15 pm

Y’all, if I can eagle # 8 at Celebrity, then the Thrashers can make the playoffs without Nikki Zherdev!! Have a little faith y’all.

ben

September 10th, 2009
10:32 pm

2nd in division 4 in conference

Darkhorse

September 10th, 2009
10:33 pm

Brenden-Put me down for 48.1 mil on the team budget. I smell a trade cooking that may still get Zherdev in here, but keep us under the rev sharing$$$$. They will leave just enough room to do some tweaking on the roster if needed during the season, but still in revenue sharing heaven.

I’m gonna hold off until the end of training camp to predict my points totals and such.

Darkhorse

September 10th, 2009
10:37 pm

Well, looks like Dany “I’m a natural born leader” Heatley got his wish.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4463628

R. Stroz

September 10th, 2009
10:39 pm

Heatley to Sharks, Marleau to Kings, Stoll and Frolov to Sens

goose

September 10th, 2009
10:47 pm

Hey did anybody notice that we have back to back home games this year? November 21 and 22.

Sara

September 10th, 2009
10:53 pm

Stroz – except all three GMs are calling BS.

World Be Free

September 10th, 2009
10:54 pm

I think Kane needs another year in juniors. He’s just too light, weight wise to stand up to the rigors of a full schedule. I think he needs to be close to 200# to go to the net and play the type of overall game he likes to play.

Guys are bigger and nastier in the NHL.

World Be Free

September 10th, 2009
10:58 pm

San Jose is the most under achieving team in the league. The last thing the Sharks need is a me-first, loser like Dany Heatley.

If it happens, it will be quite a marriage.

Smoothie

September 10th, 2009
11:22 pm

Y’all need to stop hatin’…Kane will be fine. He can excel on the 3rd line not only on the PK but on a grinding line with Reasy and Army!! Ill take my chances with that line with Fritsche as a back up plan.

R. Stroz

September 10th, 2009
11:22 pm

Sara – I always enjoyed that card game.

R. Stroz

September 10th, 2009
11:23 pm

Kessel is reporting that he will sign an offer sheet.

R. Stroz

September 10th, 2009
11:32 pm

Smoothie – We’re not hating on Kane.

I would like to roll four lines and send the greek gods to the pressbox to pose for pictures.

Brendan

September 11th, 2009
12:39 am

ben, your 4th in conference is registered. Darkhorse, your budget guess of $48,100,000 is likewise locked in.

Is that Heatley trade confirmed? I sure hope the Sharks didn’t do that. As soon as that “window” closes for the Sharks, Heatley will demand out. And no one should be stunned about it. There is no real reason for Heatley to leave Ottawa. After all, when he arrived, he told the media that he was “glad to be back in Canada, in a ‘hockey city.’”

Well, when did Ottawa cease being in Canada? It’s their nation’s capital, for cripessake. Since when did Ottawa cease being “a hockey city?” Yeah, I didn’t realize that happened, either. Dany Heatley got just what he wanted when he left Atlanta, including that big, fat contract renewal the Senators gave him after his first, “discounted” one expired. He even “made up” for the money he didn’t get in the contract following the accident. Will Heatley finish giving those court-mandated 150-speeches on the “Dangers of Driving” in Northern California? Or did he complete that, already?

World Be Free

September 11th, 2009
6:24 am

Heatley’s a scum bag. I hope neither he or Hossa ever touch the Stanley Cup. Neither dirt bag deserves to hoist the Stanley Cup.

Kane-I would really like to see him in Atlanta this year. But I think he needs another year to physically develop. I would hate to see him here for 82 games scoring 10-12 goals and playing sparingly, when he could be back in juniors developing his game.

Guys like Bogo are the exception.

Tom

September 11th, 2009
7:10 am

Brendan, please put me down for $46,292,119 and 87 points, 3rd in the conference, and 9th overall.

While I am hoping that we make the playoffs it seems to be that we may be that little bit short, kind of like Florida last year.

Pam on Weck

September 11th, 2009
9:33 am

for my tie-breakers:

Division: 3rd
Conference: 11th

Pam on Weck

September 11th, 2009
9:34 am

Many thanks to Brendan for keeping track of all of our guesses. The rest of us just get to sit back and enjoy while you do the work.

J.B.

September 11th, 2009
9:42 am

Brendan –

$49,000,001

97 points

2nd in the Southeast Division
7th in the Eastern Conference

I’d love to wait and see what happens with Zherdev but I want to get my guess in before it’s too late…

Brendan

September 11th, 2009
10:16 am

Tom, you’re locked into 87-points, 3rd in SE Division, and 9th overall, plus $46,292,119.

WBF, neither Heatley nor Hossa are among my favorite players in the league. Though I certainly respect their on ice abilities. Hossa, to me, isn’t a dirtbag. I’m not mad at him for leaving Atlanta. Just hear me out. Hossa wasn’t drafted here. Hossa never signed to play here. He was assigned here to be a 3-year stopgap for Heatley’s absence. He had a CAREER-BEST, 100-point season for Atlanta in 2007. We’ve now learned that Hossa’s shoulder was damaged/injured before he got to Detroit, from Pittsburgh. And there’s speculation that Hossa’s shoulder was hurt while in Atlanta. I don’t know that to be a fact, however. But I don’t doubt it, since he didn’t drive to the net hard in the final year of his deal with Atlanta. And perhaps the reason for that … was that he didn’t want to further damage it, in a year … where he and his agent conspired to force a trade to a contender at the trade deadline. By not having the surgery, Hossa got a crack at the Cup with Pittsburgh in 2008. Then, ostensibly, he decided to postpone surgery again to not miss his chance at the Cup with Detroit in the 2009 season. Allegedly, supposedly. Again, Detroit’s GM Ken Holland said, “Hossa was damaged when we got him.” I’ve yet to hear Pittsburgh’s trainers say anything about it. I’d be curious to get their reaction. Bygones.

But I’m off my point, which was this. Marian Hossa paid his dues in this league. To my knowledge, he was never a cancer in Ottawa. He never demanded trades out of Ottawa. His team traded him. He’s always been a premier power forward. So far, none of this rings of “dirtbag-ness.” Then he arrives in Atlanta. Goes through a period of adjustment. Then that January 2, 2006 game vs. Heatley and the Senators finally arrives. The Hos-sa, Hos-sa chant is born. Suddenly, all of Atlanta loves him. But the Thrashers fall 2-points short of the playoffs. In the offseason, Hossa doesn’t run to the media to ask for a trade. Hossa returns. He has a CAREER YEAR. And a very DISAPPOINTING playoffs. Hossa now sees the team he never chose crumbling apart, financially and organizationally. Coach Bob Hartley is losing/has lost the room, and there was no accountability for the Coaching or the Managing (GM) of the team, after four COSTLY trade deadline moves. Hossa “asks” for a Tier I center for his line. Atlanta’s July 1, 2007 response was to sign Todd White to a 4-year/$9.5 million deal and Eric Perrin to a 2-year deal, at a time when Daniel Briere, Scott Gomez, and Chris Drury are simultaneously available out on the free agent market. Hossa privately shakes his head, wondering like most Thrasher fans, at whether these moves are designed to culminate in a Stanley Cup presentation at Center Ice, at Philips Arena. Hossa, who let’s be honest, probably never envisioned playing in Atlanta past 2008 when he got traded here, now knew his best option lay elsewhere in the league. Naturally, as a pending UFA, he eyeballed the Detroit organization, as a glorious opportunity to win a Stanley Cup. But before that could happen, he wanted a chance to moved at the trade deadline. He got dealt to Pittsburgh. Another team HE NEVER CHOSE. He didn’t DISAPPEAR in those playoffs. I think he had 26-points, including 12 goals. Though, my memory is hazy. Pittsburgh made him a TREMENDOUS OFFER. Hossa, in pursuit of his Red Wing-playing DREAMS, declines it, leaving tens of millions of dollars on the table, to play AT A DISCOUNT, for the team he coveted, the Detroit Red Wings. For this, he is villified. Most of us pursue our dreams without scrutiny. These days, who questions, “How DARE YOU leave this company?” There’s absolutely no loyalty between employer and employee anymore. But I digress. So, Hossa FORCES HIS WAY into Detroit, hoping he stays there, longterm. But, at a minimum, for that 2009 season. Hossa has a disappointing playoffs for Detroit, that cultiminates in a Game Seven HOME LOSS, for the Stanley Cup.

The fan reaction?? Cheering! Glad Hossa didn’t win! He screwed Atlanta and he p*$$ed on Pittsburgh. I’d argue that Atlanta screwed Atlanta. Just look at how the team is run. They trade for players who don’t want to be here. They don’t know what the word “accountability” means, even with Webster’s dictionary assistance. Or the aid of a thesaurus. They have league-minimum budgets. And their reaction to potentially losing “the face of the franchise” is to increase the budget by $3 million from the previous year, and toss the fans and Captain a bone named “Nik Antropov.”

Okay, moving right along. So, Hossa can’t find a home in Detroit, longterm, like he ‘perhaps’ wanted. So, Chicago is a big-time Hockey City, where he can remind Detroit, for the next 12 years, that they made a mistake by not keeping him. The length of the contract calls into question whether the Blackhawks and Hossa discussed the possibility of “early retirement” in exchange for a FRONT LOADED CONTRACT, resulting in salary cap relief. This doesn’t endear Hossa to the fans much. But is he really, truly a “dirtbag?”

Did Hossa hold up a liquor store? He did carjack anyone? Was he found in a crack house, with a crack “damsel,” while doing crack? Wearing a NHL uniform? Did he drive a black Ferrari recklessly down the streets of any city? Has Hossa ever been convicted of any crime? And if so, he did fail to perform his community service, as part of his sentence? I think the answers to these questions are all in the negative. Hossa may not be a “fan favorite” in the NHL. He’s just a man who has pursued his dreams, while being persecuted for it. That doesn’t make him a “dirtbag.” Hossa won’t be the last player to see the Atlanta Thrashers organization for what it is, and “opt out.” After having EARNED THE RIGHT through his NHL-tenure to do so. Think about it.

Brendan

September 11th, 2009
10:20 am

Pam, your tie-breakers are logged. It’s a labor of love, Pam on Weck. J.B., your votes are tallied at 97, 2nd, and 7th, with $49,000,001 as the budget guess.

Smoothie

September 11th, 2009
10:20 am

Great to see Tobias smiling and having a good time delivering season tkts with Colby yesterday. I was so worried about him, but it looks like he either got some amazing care to repair his face or the injuries sustained looked worse on the video than they were in reality.

At any rate, welcome back Tobes!! Hope you have a terrific season!

Smoothie

September 11th, 2009
10:23 am

Mr. Barker, I’d like to bid $1 please…thanx!

J.B. – I love your optimism…I hope you’re right!!

Brendan — what was my points prediction again? I may revise it.

Glovesave29

September 11th, 2009
10:30 am

This should make the day of our of the Sabre fans around here…

I am a jersey / logo geek. I actually went to school to get a sports design degree, so it’s kinda a passion of mine and one I follow closely to this day. That being said, I have stumbled onto an interview with Sabres GM Larry Quinn, where he mentions that the team will drop the Buffaslug logo at home and go with the retros full time.

Glovesave29

September 11th, 2009
10:32 am

Uh, thats MP – the GM would be Darcy Regier. Info on the uni stays the same…

Smoothie

September 11th, 2009
10:46 am

Glovesave – can you clarify that last statement? Here’s to hoping they came to their senses and poured salt on the Banana Slug logo!

J.B.

September 11th, 2009
11:09 am

Smoothie – I really do feel amazingly optimistic about this season and I hope I’m right also. I gon’t know, but I just have this feeling we are going to do fantastic this year.

I did formulate my guess on the assumption Zherdev signs with us because I do think it will happen and that he’ll flourish under Anderson and with our Russians playing much better and more responsibly than he did with Columbus & New York. I also think Kane will be up and we’ll trade one or more older and/or less point-productive players to make room especially if Kane plays like he did in Traverse City.

I did not factor in the question marks at goal because there are just too many. My guesses also assume reasonably consistent goaltending, regardless of who’s between the pipes.

Thank you for noting my Price Is Right-esque guess. The reference was certainly intentional. I think the $1 bid you responded with might be a little low for the Thrashers… unless you talk to a Canadian of course.

Viking

September 11th, 2009
11:24 am

Brendan, your Hossa post is completely aligned with my thinking.

I wonder what would have been the outcome of our “Hossa! Hossa! Hossa! chant season” without the 5-Goalie mess. Certainly better than anything yet accomplished. Hossa was our best player at the time.

FormerIslesFan

September 11th, 2009
11:54 am

On a different but related note, I have it on good authority (R5) that Kovy is back in Atlanta and practicing with the rest of the Thrashers that are in town at the Ice Forum.

“Well, FIF,” you ask, “how do you know that?” Well, see, Lilibeter called me on the way into work this morning to tell me that she just pulled next to an SL600 on the 85N. When I asked her why she was telling me this, she was all excited and said, “because Kovy is driving it!” That was the exit before the exit for the Ice Forum in Duluth…

FormerIslesFan

September 11th, 2009
11:55 am

Brendan, put me down for $48.8M. Also, to whomever is keeping track, I’m going to 93 points (yes, it’s a good day to be optimisitic) with a re-sign date of 11.27.

Trixie (Rawhide's Secretary)

September 11th, 2009
12:05 pm

:!: RANALLO WARNING!! :!:

This is your official 10 minute Ranallo Warning!

New blog posting at 12:15 pm.

Got that Smoothie?

World Be Free

September 11th, 2009
12:18 pm

Brendan-I really have no issue with how Hossa handled Atlanta. My problem with Maryann is him chasing the Stanley Cup all over the place. Get on a competitive team and make a difference, earn your Stanley Cup. His lack of allegiance to anything but himself puts him in the scumbag category.

Glovesave-thanks for the update on the Sabres’ jerseys. The original uniform (with a twist) works for me. Most Sabres fans hated this new jersey anyhow.

What the Sabres should do is purchase the rights to the old Buffalo Bisons AHL logo, the “Buffalo in a bottle cap” logo that went away when the Sabres came to Buffalo in 1970. The family that owned the Bisons owns the rights to the AHL logo. The Sabres are too cheap to pay for the logo.

J.B.

September 11th, 2009
12:19 pm

Forgot to include my guess for a contract date:

Ilya Kovalchuk resigns Oct.1st

Toby

September 11th, 2009
12:32 pm

Good interview with Kane. Looks more and more like the spot is his. He does say he’s up to 190 lbs. now.

http://communities.canada.com/theprovince/blogs/dubhub/default.aspx

Viking

September 11th, 2009
1:07 pm

More in line with the blog heading, Zherdev is a skating highlight reel (as some other blogger called him – can’t remember if it was here or somewhere else).

Kovy, Little (and Zherdev) are habitually capable of generating material that not even the NHL Channel and their commentators could ignore. Zherdev is a great TV performer. Sign him and exploit the highlights!

Metro Atlanta has a big population (over 5 million). The attendance to the games and the likely amount of hockey fans living here does not jive. Myself, I have financial reasons to mostly watch TV instead of going to a game, but when it really counts, I would not miss crucial moments in Thrashers history without being there live. I had season tickets for 14 years in the Swedish Elite League before moving to the US. (I moved here because of love, not because of finances). There is certainly enough hockey folks around town to fill the house if a good product was presented.

Anyway, as said, Zherdev is a skating highlight reel, and he (together with the result of his actions) will certainly generate increased attendance. I hope this is considered by Wadell (and the owners) in the decision whether to sign Zherdev.

By the way, I am still worried about the PK….

Brendan

September 11th, 2009
4:00 pm

Smoothie, you Points pick is 89, tied to 3rd in the SE Division, and 8th in the Conference. You can change it all the way up ’til the puck drop of Opening Night. After that, all voting has concluded.

Speaking of CONCLUDED contest submissions … the Kovy re-sign contest ended sometime in May/June. No more votes can be accepted. It’s just not fair to the bloggers who participated from April through today, following the offseason blog. That Kovy Re-signs Contest began in the 2nd week of April. I think we allowed 7-8 weeks worth of time to submit a vote.

September 11th, at 11PM, concludes the “Budget Guess” contest. Guesses submitted after that date will not count. We have to have cut off dates. And this was opened on August 28th, for a season which is rapidly approaching. If we allowed everyone to vote until Opening Night, every guess would win. (Besides, that’s not really the point of the whole contest. The point of the contest is to display Atlanta Spirit, LLC’s commitment to hockey, and retaining Kovalchuk, in Atlanta, by financing a roster that reflects a serious ATTEMPT to reach the playoffs and do some DAMAGE once there. Which is, after all, what Kovalchuk ASKED them to do, back on April 11, 2009.)

FIF, you’re registered with 93-points, with no tie-breakers. You may want to submit some. You do that … by indicating what place in the Southeast Division and what ranking in the Eastern Conference, you think the Thrashers will earn. FIF, you’re also logged in at $48,800,000.

J.B., you’re in at 97-points, 2nd in SE, and 7th in the Conference, with $49,900,001 as your budget guess.

I have no budget guesses from Alan, Smoothie, Thrashers27, mutton, or Bob, or Sage of Bluesland. Or Glovesave29, who correctly predicted 76-points last year, but lost the “tie-breaker” to a poster named “Don,” (Not Waddell,) who won based on rank in SE Division. It was a nail-bitter last year. It took the final two games to eliminate the remaining six contestants.

R. Stroz, did you submit a budget guess? I don’t have you down. And it ends at 11PM, if you’re going to make one.

WBF, is Hossa a “scumbag” or just “selfish?” I can’t think of a player who doesn’t want to win the Stanley Cup. But I’m also hard-pressed to think of a marquee player in his late 20’s, early 30’s, who signs 1-year contracts every offseason, hopping all over the league, from season-to-season. We can’t put Hossa in that category anymore … since he signed a 12-year deal, with Chicago. And, perhaps, the reason he didn’t sign a 12-year deal with Detroit … was because he was “the outsider” who came in for a 1-year ‘try-out?’ I suspect, without proof, that Hossa has wanted to make a longterm commitment to Detroit for quite some time. But if that team doesn’t want him, or can’t afford him, Hossa can’t FORCE Detroit to lock him up. Well, I suppose if Hossa asked for $2.2 million-a-year, for the next 12 years, Detroit would do it. But that’s not really an adviseable way for Hossa to proceed. When I think of a “scumbag,” I think of a really, shady character, who hangs around with swarthy people. My first thoughts don’t turn towards Hossa. Though, I certainly advocate that people have the right to think whatever they want about things and people. Ted Kennedy (the Massachusetts Senator, not Teeder Kennedy, who also died this year) just died. Look at the wide array of opinions and judgements that produced! If Hossa is a “scumbag” in your eyes, then that’s the final word/decision.

Hockey Biltong

September 11th, 2009
5:30 pm

Brendan- Have I submitted my cap and standings to you???

World Be Free

September 11th, 2009
7:27 pm

Brendan-Hossa is a selfish scumbag.

I really liked Hossa when he was here, he was a great 2 way player for the Thrashers. He played 100% when he was in a Thrasher uniform. I understood his desire to winner and I am glad that we got something for him.

The he turned into the selfish scumbag that he is today. Not sure how long he’ll stay in Chicago, especially if they don’t win.

I am old school when it comes to commitment. Hossa is me first, team second. In my book, that makes him a scumbag. Maybe not as bad as Dany, but a scumbag nonetheless.

Where is Earl of Bud?

Brendan

September 12th, 2009
1:28 am

If Hossa requests a trade out of Chicago, WBF, it will probably raise some eye-brows. Much the same way Heatley’s trade request has. If a player doesn’t want to make commitments to where he plays, then 1-2 year deals do seem like a way for that player to proceed, that is honest to himself and the team for which he currently plays. There isn’t really a “mis-representation” of intent, with a 1-year deal.

(George Clooney never got married. Was honest and steadfast about never wanting to marry. Does it make him a scumbag that he changes from woman to woman, throughout the years? Is he a “selfish, opportunist?”)

But when a guy signs for 5 or more years … he made a commitment. Hossa has “made a commitment” to Chicago. If he wants out of what he PROMISED TO DO, CONTRACTUALLY, then that’s out there for scrutiny. Nobody put a gun to Hossa’s head when he signed that deal. Nobody put a gun to Heatley’s head when he signed his deal in Ottawa. So, I’m right there with you, on the “commitment” part. He must honor his contract. If a player is unwilling to play for a team for 5 or more years, he shouldn’t sign a contract to play that long. I’m not sure I see Hossa as “swarthy,” however. Swarthy in the sense of “dirty, and weather-beaten,” due to the nomadic and/or sinful lifestyle he leads. Hossa may be on Team #5, but Ottawa TRADED him. Atlanta TRADED him. Now, I hear ya. And I don’t disagree that Hossa FORCED his way out of Atlanta. And that Pittsburgh made Hossa a nice offer to stay. And, even that Hossa FORCED his way INTO Detroit. But I think Hossa would still be in Detroit, if cap restrictions weren’t an issue. They were, for Detroit. And now he’s in Chicago. I saw a pic of Janke, Hossa’s “life partner/special friend, with benefits.” She’s a rather “striking woman.” But I don’t know that Hossa is runnin’ around on her, or touring the strip clubs, in his free time. I couldn’t say if Marian Hossa has a chick in every NHL city across North America. Or if he frequents the “red light” district of Amsterdam, while in Europe. The closest example of “cheating on his hockey club” I can muster … was that “audition” he did when playing in Detroit, for the Atlanta Thrashers. Remember? He scored a “hat trick” in that game. Red Wing Head Coach, Mike Babcock, during the 2nd period intermission of a Red Wings-Senators game in 2008, admitted that “we began recruiting Marian Hossa ever since that game.” Exactly what that means seems to be open for interpretation. That could mean, “He entered our radar screen and we monitored him.” Or, it could mean FAR WORSE.

R. Stroz

September 13th, 2009
12:09 am

R. Stroz

September 13th, 2009
12:09 am

R. Stroz

September 13th, 2009
12:10 am

R. Stroz

September 13th, 2009
12:10 am