Zach Bogosian – “Scary Good”

“He’ll be scary good in a couple of years”…Those are the words of Atlanta Thrashers team captain Ilya Kovalchuk talking about his teammate Zach Bogosian last spring. That’s a fairly powerful assesment given the fact that it comes from a player who’s “scary good” himself.

Indeed Bogey’s 6′-2″, 200 pound frame supplies the “scary” part… especially if you’re a winger caught in his sights for an open-ice check…or a defender who is charged with de-pucking the native of Massena, New York as he smoothly yet powerfully motors his way through center ice.

Who would you like to see Bogosian paired with this season?

  • Tobias Enstrom (72%, 107 Votes)
  • Pavel Kubina (21%, 31 Votes)
  • Ron Hainsey (7%, 10 Votes)

Total Voters: 148

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As for the “good” part…well, that can be classified as an understatement in my book.

There was little doubt that Bogosian would suit up in Atlanta to begin last season. He had the build and skill to play at this level and the Thrashers defense was in desperate need of what he brings to the ice. Sure, he’d have to play through some rookie mistakes…but as I reflect back on the previous season, there aren’t too many that really stand out in my mind. And in his debut on opening night, he thrilled the Thrasherville masses by dropping the gloves Washington Capitals’ tough-guy Donald Brashear.

His rookie season was shortened due to a leg injury suffered from a check against the boards by Darrell Powe of the Flyers. And as if seeing Bogisian limp from the ice wasn’t “scary” enough…the Thrashers were then spanked by Philly 7-0 in that game which was played during the week of Halloween. However, in 47 games he managed to net 9 goals and 10 assist. Projected over the course of 82 games, that would be something like 16 goals and 33 points. His +11 rating tied centerman Marty Reasoner for third best on the team.

That’s a pretty good rookie season.

Once his leg had healed, he took little time getting his game on track after returning to the lineup on New Years Eve. He scored his first ever NHL goal during a 7-2 routing of Nashville on January 17 and a month later…in a game labeled as “Armenian Heritage Night” in L.A.’s Staples Arena…he contributed three assists in a 7-6 shootout win against the Kings.

Zach displayed excellent abilities on the defensive side of the ice during his rookie campaign, but his ability to step into the play on the attacking end is a huge benefit to this squad and this plays right into John Anderson’s style. Few doubted whether or not Bogosian could contribute in this type of system, but as winter gave way to spring it became clear he was thriving in it.

There’s no reason to believe this will not continue to be the case as Bogosian moves into his second season with the Thrashers and he continues to become the good…no, “scary good”…player that many believe he’ll be.

Thrashers Oh-fer Two In Traverse City

The Thrashers prospects fell to those of the New York Rangers 4-1 Monday night in the second game of the 2009 Traverse City Prospects Tournament. As he did the night before, Evander Kane scored for Atlanta with Darryl Smith and Drew Paris being credited with the assists.

Josh Unice was in goal for the Thrashers as New York outshot Atlanta 35-29 and both teams failed to score on the six power play chances they each had in the game.

Kane has two goals and is a -3 with four PIM in the two games played so far while Andrew Kozek, Paris and Smith each have a goal and an assist.

Atlanta has been outscored 10-5 so far in the tournament as they head into their third game on Wednesday against the Carolina Hurricanes. The Canes are 2-0 after having beaten the Rangers 5-3 on Sunday and the Red Wings on Monday by the same score.

Also Monday night in Traverse City…the Wild down Dallas 2-1 in a shootout and Columbus beat St. Louis 5-4.

91 comments Add your comment

Brendan

September 7th, 2009
10:09 pm

Bogosian is a solid draft pick. Even Craig Custance talked about him as potential “Captain” material.

Brendan

September 7th, 2009
10:15 pm

Where’s R.Stroz to claim “Silver?”

R. Stroz

September 7th, 2009
11:19 pm

Third, or Bronze

ben

September 8th, 2009
12:32 am

drop ze puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!

Lee

September 8th, 2009
7:08 am

oh, i bet he will. im expecting like A LOT from him. maybe he’ll become a bryan little!

LET THE SEASON BEGIN!!!!!!!!!

Sara

September 8th, 2009
7:50 am

In thinking about the prospect tournament and the team’s performance…it seems to my memory that over the years they’ve been participating, generally the Thrashers prospects have performed pretty well. Then again, so did the Wolves. However, that never translated to tons of success for the big club.

Btw, there was a comment on the last blog I wanted to respond to. Someone took exception to my “no shame in losing to the Wings” comment. There was a reason there was a winky emoticon after that as it was a tongue-in-cheek remark. Regulars around these parts know my feelings on the Wings. And when the games don’t count, I’ll tweek a nose or two (Stroz’s nose in particular :P ). Key phrase being when the games don’t count.

5 days folks, and the guys are back on the ice. I’m geeked!

World Be Free

September 8th, 2009
8:05 am

Everyone in Toronto (and Canada) likes to talk about how great Luke Schenn is and how good he will be. Bogo is already better than Schenn, and will continue to get better this year.

I have to admit, I thought it was a mistake to keep him up last year, especially after he broke his leg. But he came as as the season progressed, to the point of being dominating in the last 20 games in every aspect of the game. I can’t wait to see what this season brings.

Looks like the Thrashers struck gold with this pick.

Tony C.

September 8th, 2009
8:15 am

He plays with a healthy dose of “nasty” too….

Brendan

September 8th, 2009
8:25 am

When the Leafs traded with the Islanders at the 2008 Draft to get Luke Schenn, I thought it was a great move on Toronto’s part. GM Brian Burke wasn’t able to make deals with TB, LA, ATL, or STL to get a pick higher than 5th overall. If they had, they probably would have picked Bogosian. Most teams won’t budge from a lottery draft pick. The Islanders, however, are the New York Islanders for a reason. I sure hope, for their sake, that those 2nd and 3rd round picks they acquired were worth passing on Schenn and moving back to pick #7, which … again … they traded for a 2nd rounder to move back to #9. The Islanders did get a very promising Center with the 9th overall pick, named Josh Bailey.

The 2008 Draft was a good and deep draft. Had Toronto not picked 5th and stayed at 7th spot, the next two most promising D-men were Tyler Myers (taked by Buffalo, 12th overall) and Colten Teubert, taken 13th overall by Los Angeles. Just remember, WBF, because Toronto moved up to get Schenn … is part of why they love him. Leaf fans, like most fans, always want their team to move up in the draft. This year, when Los Angeles claimed Brayden Schenn, Brian Burke scowled, shaking his head. As if the Kings are supposed to sit there, and NOT PICK him, to make the Leafs and their fans happy? I forgot who Toronto selected 7th overall this year, but I know he came out of the Ontario Hockey League, since Don Cherry harped on the fact that the Leafs never pick the local boys on Draft Day.

kracker

September 8th, 2009
8:50 am

Bogus (to use Russian’s name for him) sort of had two seasons last year. The first was the short stint of about 13 games before he injured the leg where he got out on the ice with the big boys, getting a feel for the speed of the NHL. Then came the rehabbing and watching/learning the team and JA’s systems from the press box. Bogo seemed to have learned it well because he was good to go in the second part of his season.

Bob

September 8th, 2009
8:55 am

I concur, Bogosian is going to be a real good one, if he can develop into a true minute sucking machine #1 dman, that helps this club tremendously.

Toby

September 8th, 2009
8:59 am

The stand out in the tourney is Kane with 2 goals so far. The disappointments (in only 2 games) have been Morin and Postma. Nothing great out of them so far.

Glovesave29

September 8th, 2009
9:21 am

I’d like to thank Brian Burke for leaving Bogo off of the USA Olympic roster (even though he deserves to be on the team) as he, along with the other deserving Thrashers Bryan Little will be sitting home resting while others are out in Vancouver giving it their all and risking injury. If we can forgo last years atrocious start, and remain in the race through the winter doldrums, having two of youre best young players well rested for the stretch drive may prove to be helpful for a team that desperately needs to get in and win a playoff game…

J.B.

September 8th, 2009
9:47 am

Speaking of Russian, he said a couple of billy blogs ago that he read in the russian media that Zherdev was headed to the states on the 12th. Has anyone heard anything about him coming to atlanta lately? The rumor mill came to a grinding halt on that one this week. …Of course DW keeps things pretty quiet and it’s usually silent right before something big happens.

World Be Free

September 8th, 2009
10:01 am

I was watching the 2008 when Toronto drafted Schenn. I thought Pierre Maguire was going to cry, he went on for minutes about how great Luke Schenn was going to be, how he’ll be the cornerstone of the Leafs’ defense for the next 15 years, bring on the Stanley Cup, second coming of Tim Horton stuff.

Luke Schenn is a really good hockey player. But I don’t see him having the upside to put him in the elile defenseman of the league. The Canadian media knows very little about Bogo, because he’s not Canadian and he doesn’t play in Canada.

Talking about great defenseman-let me say again that the Islanders made a mistake in passing on Victor Hedman. Hedman has all the tools and will only get better. He’s got Nic Lidstrom written all over him.

Pam on Weck

September 8th, 2009
10:07 am

So now that the training camp schedule is posted, who will be hanging out in Duluth at some point? I work very close to the IceForum and will be stopping by on lunches when the schedule coincides well. If any other blog commenters will be attendance, how should we identify each other? It might be time to develop a Rawhides Rowdies logo.

Smoothie

September 8th, 2009
10:13 am

Bogus >> Drew Doughty >> Luke Schenn

Deal with it Toronto! But at least you have lots more snow.

Bogosian has a pretty scary slapper from the point as well. There is a youtube.com clip of him winning the hardest shot competition in the OHL All-Star proceedings. His first shot went 95 or so and I think his second attempt eclipsed 100 mph. Henceforth he should be known as the:

BOGOSIAN EXPLOSIAN!!!!!!! BOOM!!

kracker

September 8th, 2009
10:15 am

If the Isles made one mistake by passing on Hedman, they made two: Allowing him to be there for the TB Bolts.

TableHockey

September 8th, 2009
10:16 am

Pam -

I am going to try to get up there a few times. My work schedule generally has the flexibility to slip away on Mondays and Fridays. Hoping I can make it up there on the 14th and the 18th.

Smoothie

September 8th, 2009
10:42 am

Owww! Holy smokes owww!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4mjzr7KVww&feature=related

Sorry, I stand corrected. It was 96.6 on the 1st and 98 mph on the 2nd.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA4DTj9lzrY

Still, not too shabby for a 17 y/o (17 at the time).

Sara

September 8th, 2009
11:06 am

Brendan – one minor correction. Cliff Fletcher drafted Luke Schenn, not Burke – he was still the GM of Anaheim at the time.

Smoothie

September 8th, 2009
11:25 am

Bill, you’re getting some nice attention on Puck Daddy…well done! You’ve officially hit the big time! ;-)

ranallo10 (in AT)

September 8th, 2009
11:32 am

Brendan — Nazim Kadri is the player drafted by Toronto this season. He’s doing well in their prospects tournament and has two goals, I think.

WBF — Hedman, like Lidstrom, is not a “face of the franchise” type player in my opinion. The Islanders made the best decision based on talent (Tavares definitely has it in high quantity) and marketability. In my opinion there was no “wrong” decision for the Islanders this past draft when selecting between Hedman or Tavares.

I know Sara will have some insight into Lidstrom that differs from my previous statement, but I contend Lidstrom is great captain material but is not the type of person who sells tickets for his franchise just because he’s on the roster.

Smoothie

September 8th, 2009
11:39 am

Oooops! Sorry Bill, I meant to type Kukla’s Korner! Puck Daddy is too busy pushing a blogger who has taken great delight in bashing our centers because we seemingly have a dearth of talent up the middle. Do we now? While we may not have a true # 1, I wouldn’t say we have a lack of talent as two of our current pivots had a positive + / – ratio on a team that was -10 overall ES. I’d say that’s better than average.

Scotty

September 8th, 2009
11:49 am

Bogosian is a MONSTER! I can’t wait to see him when he is at his peak!

World Be Free

September 8th, 2009
12:29 pm

I’ll hate to see Hedman in a TB uniform for the next 10-15 years!

I understand the “face of the franchise” point of view. I just think Hedman will have a greater impact on his team over the long term.

Franchise defenseman like Hedman come along every 7-10 seasons. These types of players are on the No. 1 powerplay unit, kill penalties and play against the opponents top line every night. They log more minutes than any other skater on their prospective teams. The best way to market your team is by winning.

You can name the elite defenseman in this year on one hand. Hedman will be one of those digits, very soon and for a long time.

World Be Free

September 8th, 2009
12:31 pm

Nazim Kadri was an outstanding junior scorer. Toronto may of had a star drop in the lap.

Rawhide

September 8th, 2009
12:51 pm

It might be time to develop a Rawhides Rowdies logo.

Pam – Hmmmmm…now there’s a thought. Suggestions? :lol:

I understand the “face of the franchise” point of view. I just think Hedman will have a greater impact on his team over the long term.

WBF – I agree 100%. Hedman is going to be a powerful force on that Bolts blueline…and we get to deal with him 6 times a year now.

Bill, you’re getting some nice attention on….Oooops! Sorry Bill, I meant to type Kukla’s Korner!

Smoothie – Yeah, I saw the incoming link on my control panel this morning…very nice, indeed.

R. Stroz

September 8th, 2009
1:00 pm

If any other blog commenters will be attendance, how should we identify each other? It might be time to develop a Rawhides Rowdies logo.

Pam on Weck – I’ll be there on Sunday.

Maybe we should make up “Official Rawhide Rowdies Membership Cards” with our names on them and put them in our “Exclusive Rawhide Rowdies Lanyards.”

All joking aside, we could just put our blog names on a sticky label. We’ll know who is who that way.

ben

September 8th, 2009
1:06 pm

why do i keep reading on other blogs that zherdev is coming as though it’s gosple? how real is that?

R. Stroz

September 8th, 2009
1:12 pm

For one, I hope Zherdev is coming to play in Atlanta.

I know others have a different opinion, and I’m cool with that.

Viking

September 8th, 2009
2:00 pm

1) Christian Bäckman (UFA) (Formerly Blue Jackets, Rangers and Blues) is going to training camp with Florida Panthers for a possible contract.

2) Eklund’s only entry on his rumor chart is Satan at 30% to Atlanta (higher than any other team).

Rawhide

September 8th, 2009
2:51 pm

ben – Mostly, the Zherdev discussion is rumor mill stuff. However, there was a Russian internet site that had quoted him last week as saying thet he has been in talks with the Thrashers and that possibly he would sign a 1-year deal here.

The guy over there that cyber-interviewed me for a story he was doing on the Thrashers last month translated the story me and confirmed that is what he said.

But again…given how the Thrashers’ front office tends to keep these kinda things close to their chests, I’ll believe that story when Waddell steps to the podium to announce it.

Lee

September 8th, 2009
3:25 pm

beastly bogo! man, waddell made a great choice and ppl that think luke schenn is better are stupid, they just like to stick up for their team. i bet bogo and kane r gonna be best buds.

ranallo10 (in AT)

September 8th, 2009
3:26 pm

WBF — I do not disagree with your take on Hedman, not in the least bit. I merely feel New York could not make a “wrong” decision between the two, and many people would be saying the opposite you are had New York selected Hedman instead of Tavares. And, as Rawhide just did regarding Hedman, people in these parts would be upset Atlanta has to face Tavares 6 times per year.

That’s the beauty of the lottery picks…we as fans can speculate to no end over which player is better to draft than the other.

Hedman and Tavares will be good players. Hopefully we can say the same about Kane in a few years time.

Brendan

September 8th, 2009
4:29 pm

I stand corrected, Sara. Cliff Fletcher was the GM who pulled off that trade with the Islanders. I should have remembered that Brian Burke was Anaheim’s GM, as he drafted Eric O’Dell in the 2nd round, now property of the Atlanta Thrashers. Or, at least his rights are.

I can’t see how taking either Tavares or Hedman could be wrong. Imagine next year’s draft featured Joe Sakic and Steve Yzerman rookie clones. Would it be “wrong” for either team to draft the Stevie Y clone? Or if the clones were Scott Stevens and Patrick Roy. Would either team be “sorry” they took Stevens over Roy? Or vice versa? I think Tavares will be the face of the Islanders franchise. He’ll do a fine job.

I’m interested in evaluating Steven Stamkos next season. He came into his Draft Year will glowing praises, as the only player to be drafted 1st overall in the OHL and NHL. Tampa Bay having Lecavalier, Stamkos, Hedman, and Niittymaki, plus Marty St. Louis, Andrej Meszaros, and Mattias Ohlund, makes me wonder if the Bolts aren’t flying under the radar a little bit. I can’t see Toronto faring better than TB or Atlanta next season. And Leaf fans still blame Mats Sundin for that, since he wouldn’t waive his no trade clause.

LSThrasher04

September 8th, 2009
4:31 pm

I went to that game in Los Angeles at Staples Center (not Arena) and it was the best game of the year. The Armenians loved him that night and they sold out the place. I think I was one of about 10 Thrashers fans there lol.

Brendan

September 8th, 2009
4:34 pm

I am hoping that Pavel Kubina winds up on the 2nd pairing, rather than the top. I think Atlanta made a miscalculation with Matthieu Schneider playing top pairing minutes much of last season. I’d much rather see Enstrom paired with Bogosian, each playing 23:00 to 25:00 a game. Kubina and Hainsey are fine for the middle pairing. And that leaves Valabik with Salmela or Oystrick. I hope we will see more of Nathan Oystrick. I hope Mark Popovic can be assigned to the Chicago Wolves and used as a call-up, as I do see him as NHL-ready.

Has Jordan LaVallee been signed, or not?

polskidawg

September 8th, 2009
4:58 pm

Bogosian performed even better than I expected. Very poised, very focused and a great skater that arrives with malice in intent.

How about 18g 39a for 57 this season?

R. Stroz

September 8th, 2009
5:12 pm

The title of the article encompasses the concept of “Scary Good.”

That said, I’m actually going to make the pitch as to why Zherdev should be signed.

1) Zherdev expressed an interest in signing with the Thrashers, and you don’t hear that from NHL players every day. Does anyone remember what Dan Boyle thought of coming to Atlanta last year?

2) As fans, we wanted Kovy to recruit players that he thought would help the Thrashers. Since Kovy and Zherdev trained together, we can infer Kovy recruited Zherdev. Shouldn’t management accept Kovy’s help with recruiting based on how well Waddell has recruited in the past? Would you rather have Kovy recruiting Antropov and Zherdev or Waddell recruiting the Jason Williams and Ken Klee’s of the NHL?

3) Next, for a second, think of the high powered offense of the Edmonton Oilers of the early 1980’s. Now, think of this group of players: Kovy, Little, Antropov, Zherdev, Peverley, White, Kozlov, Armstrong, Reasoner, Esposito, and Kane on offense. Next think of the offensive capabilities of Bogo, Enstrom, Hainsey, and Kubina on defense.

Now, imagine this, a Thrasher team without Kovy, Zherdev, Little, Armstrong, Peverley, and Kubina. None of these players are signed past this season.

So, who wants to make Kovy happy by signing Zherdev now? Who wants to show Kovy some love for recruiting when Waddell has failed at recruiting top tier talent in the past?

I contend that the Thrashers future hangs in the balance.

ben

September 8th, 2009
5:52 pm

R. Stroz agreed at least for the shortterm

[...] Ice Man:  Atlanta Thrasher Zach Bogosian is scary good.  Pretty high praise from someone who is himself, pretty ’scary good’ (Ilya Kovalchuk). [...]

ranallo10 (in AT)

September 8th, 2009
6:07 pm

I’m just curious…who clicks on those links?

R. Stroz

September 8th, 2009
6:11 pm

ranallo10 – Not Me, Not Me

Pam on Weck

September 8th, 2009
7:12 pm

ranallo10 – Not me. I think I must have turned old this year. Suddenly, all these tweets and twits are confounding me.

Smoothie

September 8th, 2009
7:12 pm

Stroz, you make some compelling arguments. The only problem I see is that it forces Little back to the middle and either moves Pevs or White down to the 3rd line. I suppose the potential for a hi-octane offense a la EDM might be foolhardy to pass up. I’d be okay with a short-term deal especially if White can be traded for a solid, veteran goalie who isn’t a diminutive 5′9″ and at the end of their career…isn’t Moose small and old enough??

R. Stroz

September 8th, 2009
7:29 pm

Smoothie – My idea is to roll four high octane lines.

Keep the goons in the press box most nights.

Rawhide

September 8th, 2009
7:33 pm

ranallo & Pam – Those links, like the one at 6:01 PM, simply indicate when my blog entry is being linked at another site. This time it’s a site called “illegal curve”…an online hockey site that I’ve even contributed to before.

Case in point, here’s one from an L.A. Kings Fans site…and here’s another from the Empty Netters page of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

Most of the time they get caught in the spam filter…or I just delete them as to not clutter up the discussion thread.

Brendan

September 8th, 2009
7:38 pm

I’ve never been steadfastly opposed to Nikki Zherdev coming here. I’m even less opposed to it, infering that Kovalchuk wants him to be here. And right about now, I’m in “appeasement” mode.

That said, if we’re going to spend $4 to $4.5 million, I want an upgrade along the blueline. Can’t Kovalchuk recruit a Russian on defense? If Atlanta surrenders 290 to 310 goals this season, (and Zherdev may contribute his fair share to that,) they’ll be fortunate to be .500. We’ve got to upgrade the blueline for a serious run in the playoffs. A Stanley Cup winner, like Kovy imagines, neds two (2) Tier I defensemen on the Top pairing. Think Stevens and Daneyko. Or Lidstrom and Rafalski. Or Pronger and Niedermayer. I love Bogosian and Enstrom, but they’re just not there yet. And neither is Kubina and Hainsey, and they’re not newbies on the scene.

While adding Zherdev would be “fun” to watch, and an upgrade, the team needs balance. If it happens, I think it’ll be okay. And if it isn’t okay, well … Zherdev can leave or be dealt at the trade deadline. But I don’t see how that would make Kovy happy.

What about goaltending? I think we’ve heavily invested in Lehtonen. Trouble is, we STILL DON’T KNOW if he’s truly an elite goaltender, or can become one. And Pavelec is a star for the future. Not now. I hear ya, whoever just screamed, “What about Khabibulin? Surely, Kovy could have talked to him?” Yes, well. I think he got a 4-5 year deal out in Edmonton, and would any of us really want to make this kind of commitment to Nicholai, so late in his career? And what message would that send to Pavelec, who ‘may not’ really want to be here, anyway? And then, what’s the trade return on any of these guys (Lehtonen-Pavelec) anyway? It’s quite a situation, isn’t it? We’re sitting on two potentially great goalies who have no trade value. It’s bizarre to explain.

R.Stroz, I enjoyed reading your argument. It has spun some interesting debate.

ranallo10 (in AT)

September 8th, 2009
7:50 pm

That said, if we’re going to spend $4 to $4.5 million, I want an upgrade along the blueline.

Okay, like whom. I don’t see too many $4-$4.5M defenders out there that in my opinion are drastic improvements over the current top 4. Backman, who I consider the best defender still available (off the top of my head), is definitely not a top 2 defender now do I think he’s worth the money you’re mentioning. Apparently he’s going to Florida for a tryout so I guess 29 other teams didn’t consider him worthy of extending a contract.

So, who is available to fill that need on defense?

For what it’s worth, I think the roster will stay the way it is right now because, to my knowledge, the team is over the salary floor. That alone fulfills the requirements set by the team’s internal “budget”.