THOSE Aren’t PILLOWS!!!
Del Griffith: Between two pillows.
Neal Page: THOSE aren’t PILLOWS!
If you cracked a smile at that short dialogue, then you certainly know which movie the scene comes from…”Planes, Trains and Automobiles”…one of my favorites of all time. God knows after watching it I’ve never used a towel in the bathroom unless I have set eyes upon it and clearly identified it as such…and not a size XXXXL set of underwear!
The director of that film, John Hughes, was a master in the film making industry with such works to his credit as “Ferris Bueller’s Day Off”, “Sixteen Candles”, “The Breakfast Club”, “National Lampoon’s Vacation” and many others.
Hughes passed away suddenly of a heart attack Thursday while visiting family in New York. He was 59 years old.
In light of that, I hope you’ll please forgive me as I stray off the hockey reservation for a little while here… but I just could not let his passing go by without just a brief comment.
Hughes movies were funny, energetic screenplays that would set the viewers up with and hour and a half of laughter … then hit us between the eyes with a wonderful life-lesson. In the above-mentioned 1987 film “Planes, Trains and Automobiles“, Steve Martin and John Candy star in a rip-roaring comedy that follows Neal Page, (Martin), in his attempt to simply get home in time for Thanksgiving. His journey is doomed once he crosses paths with the bumbling but well-meaning Del Griffith, (Candy). From there, Page’s travels turn into a nightmarish series of catastrophes that spiral out of control.
Throughout the movie, Griffith is carrying his oversized travel trunk that only hamper Page’s efforts all the more. The truck is cumbersome, heavy, bulky and to Page it was nothing more than a nuisance….a burden.
To Griffith…it was his life.
However, once Page realizes Griffith’s life is filled with far more challenges than his ever will and that his focus has been inward instead of outward, he then begins to help Del carry the trunk…his burden…along the way. Only once his heart was softened to Griffith’s situation and it was it opened to help his fellow man was he able to then make progress on his path and find his way home.
They tell me there’s a moral there someplace.
If you’ve not yet seen the movie, do yourself the favor of setting aside some time…maybe around Thanksgiving… to do so. You’ll roll on the floor laughing throughout it, then smile from your heart at the end.
That’s the way of a Hughes film.
R.I.P. John Hughes. And thank you for creating movies that made us laugh as much as they made us think.
And now…back to hockey.
Less Than A Month Away From Thrashers Hockey
Uh-huh…yup. That’s what I said. We are within a month of some Thrashers hockey action. In case you were not aware, Atlanta will once again participate in the Prospects Tournament and Training Camp in Traverse City, Michigan. The first game will be on Sunday September 6 as Atlanta’s young-uns will take on the Red Wings’ prospects. Monday the 7th the Thrashers will face the Rangers. After a practice-only day they’ll face off against Carolina on the 9th. The Finals will then be held on the 10th.
Ring Around The Blogosphere
The Falconer points out that Colby Armstrong was the Thrashers’ most valuable player while at full strength last year.
Big Shooter of the Blueland Chronicle tells us of the time he met the recently retired Jeremy Roenick.
Thrashing About’s Timmyf asks the question, “Does anybody else seem confused that Don Waddell has done exactly what he said he would?”
Ms. Sunshine informs us that Thrash is looking for a friend.
Sean Grace describes this particular time of year as “The long, hot tease“.
There’s a new Thrashers blog in town…Thrash Talk…and in one of his first entries, Andrew breaks down the Exelby/Kubina trade.
Tim of the6thsen goes “Around the League in 30 Beers“.
And finally…if you hadn’t already seen this, Adam Proteau has posted his list of the worst UFA signings of this summer. Atlanta’s acquisition of Nik Antropov is number three.
Whatev…
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Brendan
August 8th, 2009
10:01 am
Yes, these are indeed the ‘dog days of summer.’ Let’s drop the puck, already!!
On the Hughes front, he perfected the movie soundtrack. His movies always had a sountrack that you affiliated with some scene in one of his movies.
Sara
August 8th, 2009
10:20 am
I love John Hughes movies. Nobody makes movies like that anymore.
I also love hockey and I’m really over this off-season thing.
R. Stroz
August 8th, 2009
10:32 am
Ferris Bueller’s Day Off – One of my favorite movies of all time.
I still do the bat-ter, bat-ter, sweeeeng, bat-ter, bat-ter.
Ohhhh Yeaaah, Bom, Bom
World Be Free
August 8th, 2009
12:03 pm
Long Duck Dong from Sixteen Candles-
“Sam not here, she gone to church to marry oily beau-hunk”
lee
August 8th, 2009
12:08 pm
man, how long has this off season been!!!???? im ready for some action! i LUV john hughes movies!he was so talented and came a long way. very good man, god bless him.
Roenick, oh,i dont blame him, he’s pretty old. (for a hockey player of course) he was a great guy on and off the ice.
World Be Free
August 8th, 2009
12:22 pm
Adam Proteau is one of those guys who I like to dismiss.
Also, we will miss Hughes for sure, but what about John Candy? JC was one of THE funiest guys I ever saw. He was the kind of person who did not have to try and be funny, it was natural. Gone way too soon.
rightshot
August 8th, 2009
1:08 pm
There will be a John Hughes marathon this weekend
Is it possible to start a “Rawhides Official Countdown to Opening Day.”
GaVaHokie
August 8th, 2009
1:46 pm
Chet from Weird Science is one of the best movie assholes of all time.
1) Planes Trains & Automobiles
2) Christmas Vacation
3) Vacation
4) Weird Science
5) Mr. Mom
fes
August 8th, 2009
2:07 pm
Here’s a link to some great John Hughes movie quotes: http://www.moviefone.com/insidemovies/2009/08/06/john-hughes-movie-quotes/
Bring on the hockey already.
Glovesave29
August 8th, 2009
2:57 pm
Best line ever…”It’s social…demented and sad, but social.”
If for no other reason than Kovy re-signing with us because we added Antropov, he will be worth the money we pay. Personally, I think he’s going to provide in the range of 65 points and the know-it-all Toronto kiss ups at the Hockey News will eat their words. They’ve got us pegged for 15th in the conference…yeah, right.
Tony C.
August 8th, 2009
4:35 pm
Whoever said something about Hughes’ and his soundtracks-I still rank the “some kind of wonderful” soundtrack as one of the best compilation soundtracks ever.
I wonder if anybody has any info regarding Stapleton???
The Earl of Bud
August 8th, 2009
5:07 pm
Tony C. expect Stapleton to start the year in Chicago. Although he was a point/game player in his only year in the AHL last year at his size it seems that all he might be. He’s already 25-26 years old. He spent time in Europe but doesn’t do as well for the North American game. The Marlies fans loved him but the overall label of him on the Toronto blogs was “perimeter player”. I see him as another AAAA-type a la Brett Sterling.
Tony C.
August 8th, 2009
5:15 pm
Additionally, I think Antropov’s “rep” got slaughtered by his learning the NHL game in front of Torontans(is that right? I’m trying to stop using “frostback”)… They expect that any guy over 6′1″ that plays centRe to be part human wrecking ball, part dead-eye sniper.
I believe they thought they were getting the “Soviet version” of Keith Primeau. Antropov’s just not that kind of guy-he was raised in a culture that prizes “the beautiful game” so to speak-just look at Kovalchuk, Datsyuk, Kovalev, Zherdev live to dangle, and prize the graceful move over just bullrushing a guy – even the Russian that Canadians warm to the most, Ovechkin, is a guy that uses his hands more than his shoulder (although he surely ain’t shy about the shoulder)… Maybe if Antropov wasn’t as gifted an athelete, where he came up in a manner where he had to play more of a grinder’s game, perhaps the Toronto fans would’ve been more accepting.
Similar to our own disappointment with Andy Sutton’s reluctance to “play as big as he is”. However, the difference (to me at least) between our view of “Mandy” and Torontans view of Antropov, is that Sutton played a position and minutes that dictated a more physical presence – Antropov however, had he been a few inches shorter wouldn’t have raised their expectations for physical play so high.
Also, it takes some time for guys to “get it”. Not everybody is Ilya-where the puck is superglued to their stick while puling a five-move outside-inside-inside some more deke. If I’m not wrong Antropov came into the league at like 19-with all sorts of expectations in front of the most rabid fans on the continent. We’ve seen his production steadily increase, and in fact, I think we’ll see his numbers go up even more in Anderson’s system-his numbers went up once Torts took over NYR, and his system is very up tempo and more than a little bit similar to Anderson’s style.
Of course I say this brimming with off-season optimism… Hey at least everybody we got as UFA isn’t on the wrong side of 30!
PUTTING ON THE FOIL
August 8th, 2009
6:53 pm
I still get a b****r when Kelly LeBrock says ” What do you little devils want to do first?” in that British accent from Weird Science. Anyway, getting close to time for breaking out Slapshot. You know, our old Flames could kick a$$ back in the day. And it put people in the seats, win or lose.
GaVaHokie
August 8th, 2009
7:39 pm
Very few things are funnier than a Clark Griswold “meltdown”.
World Be Free
August 8th, 2009
8:28 pm
Nice post Tony-
Torontonians is what I believe they call themselves.
I have been watching Leafs’ games for a long time. Maple Leaf fans are particularly tough on any player who is not Canadian. Antropov really never got a chance to shed his Russian stereotype in Toronto. Even Ranger fans were easier on him in New York.
Leaf fans have been planning his departure for years. Toss in trading Stahlamn (to Calgary), Kubina to Atlanta and plans to jettison Kaberle, Stepniak, Finger and Blake and you can see you are a marked man in Toronto if you’re not Canadian. These are the undeniable facts. Look at how long it took Borje Salming to become accepted in Toronto.
I am not saying Antropov is THE answer to our problems. I just know he will get a better chance to succeed her in Atlanta than he did in Toronto. I believe Kovy will open up space for Antropov to use his size to his advantage. He will not be THE go-to guy in Atlanta, as he was in Toronto.
thrashers27
August 8th, 2009
9:05 pm
From beautiful upstate new york where the weather feels as if we should be closer to dropping pucks than we are…hughes must have been a bit of a hockey fan because I can think of several of his movies where the characters wear hockey sweaters..ie: clark griswold wearing his ‘hawks sweater while watching eddie empty out his chem toilet into the storm drain…”#@”**)#@ was full!!!”
The Earl of Bud
August 8th, 2009
9:44 pm
thrashers27, I never caught that. Cameron with the Gordie Howe jersey. Nice catch.
Brendan, did you catch any of the HOF ceremonies tonight? I am watching on delay now, had to watch it tonight.
thrashyou
August 8th, 2009
11:32 pm
Well…. I’m with you fellers…..
I think oh brother where art thou and raising arizona are two very funny ones.
I CAN’T WAIT UNTIL THE SEASON!!!!!!
ranallo10 (in AT)
August 9th, 2009
12:23 am
WBF — Maybe Toronto fans just have low tolerance for players who aren’t renowned stars. I don’t remember reading many complaints about Sundin.
I always view the opinions from Toronto fans with the understanding that they are love/hate…either the player is amazing or he’s horrible…there is no middle ground. So if Finger, McCabe, Kubina, Stempniak, etc are fed to them by the media as “part of the solution” but the player does not follow through (i.e., do not help the team get to the playoffs or go deep in the playoffs), Toronto fans scream for heads to roll and look for the next answer. Meanwhile the media, who pushed the player down the throat of the fans, backtracks and trashes said player as often as possible.
That’s the meat-grinder that is called Toronto.
Many of the loud Toronto fans are about instant gratification, in my opinion. If they were losing with Crosby on their roster they’d still be upset after every depth signing because they simply want to win, and win now.
Brendan
August 9th, 2009
6:43 am
Thrashers27, I was about to say that in Ferris Bueller’s Day Off, Cameron is wearing a Red Wings jersey. But that’s already been mentioned.
Tony C., whenever I hear “Oh yeah!,” by Mello Yello, I think of the end of Ferris Bueller and Principal all in disarray, defeated by Ferris. If there was a movie that sort of defined the 80’s, it was the Breakfast Club. I still hear Simple Mind’s “Don’t You (Forget About Me)” playing when the movie is mentioned.
EOB, I’ve been far, far away from a TV for the past few days. I missed everything.
Ranallo, I think you’re exactly right, regarding Toronto and fan expectations. Perhaps fans they have always been this way, but it’s been exacerbated by four decades without a Cup. If a Leaf fan was born after 1960, their memories of Stanley Cup years are “hazy” at best. But for a Toronto fan born between 1940 and 1950, they’re exasperated over the lack of Cup wins, and about how and why Harrold Ballard was allowed to experience a “natural death,” rather than being driven out of town with his head on a spike. Preferably on fire, before a throng of cheering fans.
Sometimes, I feel Toronto’s worst enemy is not the Boston Bruins, Montreal Canadians, Buffalo Sabres or Ottawa Senators, but rather, the Toronto media. That media seems to have the power to fire GM’s and Head Coaches alike. Though, season tickets never seem to cease to be sold. With the proper architect in place, any team could win the Cup in 3-5 years, if it’s patient and it’s prudent. If it builds through the draft, and the waiver wire, and works on player retention, via committed ownership.
I’d like to see an informal poll here. How many of the NHL’s 30 teams, would YOU say, as bloggers, are GOOD OWNERSHIP? By “good ownership,” I mean committed towards winning a Cup and getting significant results. We sometimes call that “accountability.” Well? How many? Seven? Eight? Perhaps ten? How many of you would say that twenty (20), or two-thirds (2/3’s)of the League’s teams have committed ownership? Dedicated to winning a Cup within 3-5 years? I’m interested to see the results of that. If it’s NOT twenty, then already … one-third of the league isn’t TRYING. Or not properly.
Well, guess where I’m headed next? Who the HECK approved these clowns to run teams that DON’T TRY? If some wealthy and powerful entity needs to own a hockey for a “tax write-off,” NO THANKS!!! I wish fans had some say over WHO gets to own hockey teams. But that day will never happen. The closest we’ll ever come to that … is to close the wallet and fire them. “I don’t like the way you run the hockey team, I’m getting MLB, NBA, MLS, NFL, or gasp, Arena Football tickets instead.” That’s a message they’ll understand. But sadly, it doesn’t wrest control of the team away from them. I bet if you asked the average Torontonian walking down Yonge Street if they’re happy with the current Leaf ownership, they’d say, “No.” And if you asked them if they wished someone else could own the team, they’d say, “Yes.”
World Be Free
August 9th, 2009
7:33 am
Ranallo-thanks for throwing in McCabe. Kinda blows my theory that the Maplre Leaf scapegoats are all non-Canadians!
McCabe played hard in Toronto, elevating his game higher than he had anywhere else. Leaf management awarded him with a huge contract, probably more than he deserved as a one-dimensional (offense only) defenseman. That was not McCabe’s fault; he took what they gave him when the Leaf Nation demanded he be resigned to a long term deal. From that point, Leaf fans started booing Bryan McCabe into submission, management tied to trade him ANYWHERE they could. Why would any UFA want to go to the Maple Leafs after seeing what the Leafs did to McCabe? They still boo him today and Bryan McCabe did nothing wrong.
Toronto has 2 major problems-
1. The self-proclamed belief that Toronto is the center of the hockey universe. No Torontonian would deny this.
2. The Leafs have not won a Stanley Cup since 1967. They had a great GM back then – Punch Imlach who won 4 cups in the 1960’s-they fired him!
All this makes Toronto one big pressure cookers for any GM, coach or player who works for the Toronto Maple Leafs. Instant gratification is a great way of putting it, but the situation goes beyond that having not won a cup for 42 years (and counting) while other “non-hockey markets” have won cups (Carolina, Tampa Bay).
Ask Ron Wilson, who had a decent season last year working in turmoil with very little talent. And why does the press in Toronto have a problem with Ron Wilson? Because he’s American.
And so it goes, in Toronto.
World Be Free
August 9th, 2009
7:35 am
Thrashers27-not much summer in the northeast this year. I was up the week after July 4th, noticed alotta people still had covers on their swimming pools. I have never seen that before, ever! So much for global warming!
Sara
August 9th, 2009
12:32 pm
Brendan – I think it depends on what your idea of good ownership is. To me it should be a 100% commitment to building a winning hockey (or insert other sport here) team first and foremost, and running a classy organization that is at least mostly drama-free and treats all of its employees well second. I’d say most NHL owners have done a respectable job. Some markets are going to self-sustain a team better than others and it’s honestly hard to fault an individual or group for not sinking every last dime they have into a professional sports team if there is no possible way there can be enough fan support – hence revenue – to recoup those expenditures.
The only horrible owners that pop into my mind have been: Maple Leaf Sports Entertainment (to me the worst ownership in hockey), Charles Wang, Bill Wirtz prior to his passing and I’m reserving judgement on his son after the nonsense this summer, Atlanta Spirit (who might prove me wrong if they could ever quit suing each other, get someone else in here with some $$, and shut Bruce Levenson up), and then there’s the dynamic duo down in Tampa who I’m also giving a wait-and-see pass to – I won’t outright condemn them off one season even if it was one of the craziest things ever witnessed in professional hockey. There are some markets like Buffalo or Florida that I wonder about but don’t know enough details on that I can’t be sure if it’s truly an ownership problem or a market problem. Most other owners at least seem like they care and are trying. Some may face certain challenges over others, but at least they’ve got their hearts and heads in the right places.
And for the record, the concept of owning “tax write-off” entities is the absolute most moronic business concept ever created. With the current high bracket set at 35%, you generate a $20M loss, you reduce your tax liability by $7M. But guess what – you’re still $13M in the hole. I don’t care if the highest tax bracket goes to 50% – I’d rather make $20M, give $10M to the government and still have $10M in my possession than lose $20M, save $10M in taxes but still be in the hole for the other $10M. (Which doesn’t mean, for the record, that I support a 50% tax bracket…just thought I’d clarify that.) And while a sports entity may gain value over time, meaning that a profit could be made if the team is sold down the road for a significant amount more than it was purchased for, in some of these cases where losses are generated on an annual basis, the sum of the annual losses very likely will exceed the profit made upon sale of the franchise. So all in all, if you aren’t in it to win it, don’t buy a hockey team.
Glovesave29
August 9th, 2009
12:47 pm
Patrick Kane was arrested last night for assaulting and robbing a cab in Buffalo. Blackhawks are not having a good offseason!
Rawhide
August 9th, 2009
1:08 pm
Glovesave29 – WOW…you aren’t kidding about the B’Hawks having a nightmare of an offseason. Here is a link to the Patrick Kane story.
He and his cousin, James Kane, will be charged with second-degree robbery…which is a felony…as well as criminal mischief and theft of services misdemeanors.
Un-good.
ranallo10 (in AT)
August 9th, 2009
1:59 pm
Interesting how the story didn’t once mention what the cab driver did or did not do. I find it hard to believe a 20 year old professional athlete would just randomly decide to beat the stuffing out of a cabbie at 4am, unprovoked.
I’m not trying to defend Kane’s actions, but there is clearly more to this story than the link provides. Hopefully for him (as a 20 year old kid) it was a provoked mistake and his punishment is minimum. I’m sure Chicago fans are hoping this gets forgotten about immediately.
Anybody want to take a guess at if/when EA Sports will remove Kane from the NHL10 cover?
The Earl of Bud
August 9th, 2009
3:14 pm
ranallo10 (in AT), so far what I heard was that Kane gave the cabbie $15 for a $13.80 cab fare and the two were walking away. The next thing that is said is that for some reason they both walked back and then a scuffle occured. So they actually paid him, but for whatever reason they went back and no one knows what role the cabbie played in all of this.
Two things that are bad about this: 1) all of this was over $13.80 or $15 which is just stupid for an exposed millionaire athlete 2) he was in town promoting fundraising for Cazenovia ice rink with Tim Kennedy (Sabres prospect also from South Buffalo) and was doing a community service and now is tarnished.
On a side note, Sundin received many complaints. When Toronto had their last good playoff run and was knocked out of the conference finals in the late 90’s, many were saying he wasn’t captain material and questioned if they could ever win the Cup with him. I think Carolina (Maurice finals team, not Laviolette Cup team)knocked them out of the conference finals again but I didn’t follow them as closely at that season.
World Be Free
August 9th, 2009
4:00 pm
Betcha they are “lovin” little Patrick Kane at the Erie County Holding Center (the county lockup). What an idiot.
Brendan-you are right on with the issue in Toronto, the media. You can click on and radio show or sports outlet in Toronto 365 days a year and you will be about the Leafs. Even Montreal gives hockey a break once and awhile. Harold Ballard, “Pal Hal” was the worst owner I have ever seen in any sport. What a turd.
Scotty Bowman
August 9th, 2009
4:54 pm
The police acted stupidly when they arrested Patrick Kane.
The Earl of Bud
August 9th, 2009
6:16 pm
Scotty Bowman, I read your comment five minutes ago and didn’t laugh at all. After going to another page and coming back and then “getting it” it was hilarious, h/t to ya.
Anyway from what I got from folks up in WNY, I think Kane is going to get off on this. It seems that what really happened was that he paid the cabbie and then asked for change. The cabbie wouldn’t give it to him and that’s when the scuffle occured (which may be more his cousin than him but that’s tbd).
If we look at this objectively through the eyes of the law, while Kane may be the world’s cheapest SOB behind Scottie “no tippin” Pippen, it is not illegal to ask for your change. It is illegal though to not give change. Think if you went somewhere and paid $20 on a $5.70 tab and didn’t get change. Just because the store or whatever doesn’t have $14.30 doesn’t mean they get to keep your money. Apparantley it was the cousin who had the ripped $5 bill, not Patrick. This will probably disappear but for cryin’ out, that cabbie better have done something extremely bad for him to ask for $1.20 and even then, is it worth it?
Where Kane may get in further trouble though is that he is only 20 years old. This occured on Chippewa St. In Buffalo/Atlanta terms Allentown is like Little Five Points and Chippewa St. is like the old Buckhead strip before they tore it all down, maybe it’s like what Midtown is now. If he was drunk at 4am which is what happens on Chippewa St. then he might get in trouble there, but I would guess that if they didn’t do something right then and there, you can’t prove it once he sobers up.
World Be Free
August 9th, 2009
7:50 pm
I know I drank under the limit in Allentown or “them there parts”. I could think of 10-12 bars in the general area that served me my first drink before I could shave. You’d think Kane would have had the smarts (and the money) to tip the guy, especially on a $20 fare.
R. Stroz
August 9th, 2009
8:03 pm
EOB – I know Scotty Bowman very well. I’m glad you enjoyed the humor.
Glovesave29
August 9th, 2009
8:39 pm
TSN is reporting that the NHL is stepping in to force a resolution in the fractured ownership of the Tampa Bay Lighting. WTF? Why the heck is this not happening here? They’ve had the moron twins of Barrie and Koules for just over a year, we’ve been putting up with the ASG for what, five years now?
World Be Free
August 9th, 2009
9:36 pm
Glovesave-not sure I would take anything too seriously if it comes from a Canadian media outlet. The Canadian media is hell bent on reporting anything negative about southeastern U.S. frachises, or any NHL franchise south of the border that looks shaky.
I am not saying there nothing up with the Tampa franchise. But whatever it is, you can count on the Canadian media outlets milking it for whatever negativity they can.
That’s life in Canada-the 51st state.
The Earl of Bud
August 9th, 2009
9:58 pm
“That’s life in Canada-the 51st state.”
Since when did Canada outrank Puerto Rico? Oh, that will make them upset if they read that.
R. Stroz, can you tell him I’m not always this slow? It literally flew right over my head. On that thought, maybe don’t tell him unless he’s on this blog often and already read this anyway.
R. Stroz
August 9th, 2009
10:11 pm
EOB – Don’t worry the Puerto Ricans read Spanish, they’ll never know.
The Samoans might get pissed though and those guys are usually pretty big.
Brendan
August 9th, 2009
10:32 pm
And yet, Sara, you’d be amazed by how many people don’t get the concept of “tax credit.” If you gave me a dollar, and I handed you $0.33 back, how many dollars would you have to hand me … before you realized you were getting snookered? This is how a home loan works.
And if you’ve got some kind of cash-back credit card, when you get 1% or 2% or special 5% promotional/season purchase items, and you go “hog wild” spending to stockpile your CASHBACK AWARD, you better be able to pay the bill in full, at the end of the billing cycle. Otherwise, you’re what makes sales and marketing smile, ear to ear, like a Cheshire cat. While they potentially ravage you to the tune of 20-someting percent on interest.
Frank Grimes, asks Homer Simpson, “Homer, this place is a ‘palace.’ How do you possibly afford it?” Homer shrugs, “I don’t know. Don’t ask me how the economy works.” Homer asks Ned Flanders, his neighbor, how he afforded his house. “Ned, I get your mail sometimes by mistake. I’ve seen your paystubs, and you only make $200 more a month than me. Why is your house so much better?” Ned smiles, “Credit, silly.”
There’s a lot of idiocy in lending and credit. For that matter, just how in the heck do we know the stock market isn’t lying through its teeth about what the aggregate value of corporations and its shares are truly worth? Does anyone really know? Sometimes, I wonder if it isn’t all just a gigantic “Ponzi scheme.” God bless an honest accountant.
Brendan
August 9th, 2009
10:35 pm
Sad situation on the Patrick Kane front. Kane could easily flip the cabbie a Benjamin and never think about it another second. Then again, and I’m grasping here, but perhaps a person doesn’t do his best “thinking” at 4AM, on Chippewa St., in Buffalo? Even if booze weren’t involved.
I suspect this whole thing will blow over like a tropical storm that was projected to be a full on Hurricane.
R. Stroz
August 9th, 2009
11:10 pm
I think we should start a new prediction date as to when the Blackhawks management, owners, or players make another mistake.
Or even better, we can pick which happens first, whether the Blackhawks screw up again or Kovy is re-signed.
World Be Free
August 10th, 2009
5:45 am
EOB and Stroz-you know, most canadians I know are real good, nice people. It’s the idiots that drink the hockey Kool Aid that are the idiots. Forgot about Samoa and PR; toss in the Marianas too.
Brendan-good point about thinking at 4AM. Chris Pronger got into trouble in Buffalo at Jim Kelly’s old bar. A fight broke about involving Hartford Whalers players and Pronger was “there”, don’t think he was involved. Chris was 19 at the time, but I am sure he looked 21.
Toby
August 10th, 2009
7:57 am
Glovesave29….I agree. I’ve called into 680 and 790 and gotten their opinions about some help with the terrible ownership here and they both said it’s never going to happen. They sited the Clippers and Raiders and then hung up. Oh well….Dub is still here too…some things never change I guess…
Brendan
August 10th, 2009
8:53 am
My vote goes to another Blackhawk screw up. I don’t have my list with me, but I think someone had August 9, 2009, for a Kovy re-sign date. There were a couple of guesses in August. And some in September. And then, the next closest guess is June of 2010. Ranallo and I have June 30th, at different times of day. Kovy’s got until then to use his contract to influence Atlanta ownership’s thinking process. Of course, he does run the “risk” of being traded at the deadline in 2010. Truthfully, if the Thrashers are out of it, I’d love to “rent” Kovy for some 1st round picks and a 3rd, then have him re-sign on July 1.
Hallucinations are fun.
Toby, hang tough. Weather the storm. The Spirit Group won’t be here forever. And, as Sage of Bluesland might say, “We fans hold all the power. IF only we’d see it.” They cannot stay in business without gate receipts. No business can flourish, if they don’t move the inventory. For whatever this is worth, I personally believe that Don Waddell CARES. I think he TRIES, to the extent of his God-given abilities, and within the parameters of the budget he’s afforded. I do NOT believe that DW has “emotionally quit.” I’m sure it’s all he can do to just hold his head up high and smile. This CANNOT BE how he’d envisioned being a GM in the NHL. I’m sure he wished for better ownership. And better support in the newspaper, on the TV and radio news. But, it is what it is. And winning would make everything better, of course.
If I were Waddell, I would have resigned by now, using all the power of my restraint not to RIP my former bosses apart, with stern “BEWARE” messages for the next GM. Of course, and needless to say, Don Waddell didn’t help his own cause any by going with slow, aging veterans over a strategy of prospect development during the early years. And having a concept for the team “identity.” Bygones.
Glovesave29
August 10th, 2009
9:18 am
WBF – I realize the anti-US slant of Canadian media outlets, but this story is on multiple outlets and is missing the usual slant – it’s just a one paragraph byline, a simple statement of the facts. The league has been stepping in lately in Tampa, making sure the partners do have the necessary cash to run the team (a symptom of the Boots Del Biaggio affair, no doubt)…ours are in court against each other. We are certainly the more needful situation (at least on the surface, who knows what may be lurking beneath each team to which we are blissfully unaware). The old Abraham Lincoln adage fits nicely here…”A house divided against itself cannot stand.”
Alan
August 10th, 2009
9:57 am
Why is the NHL helping TB and not Atlanta? It should be fairly simple to see.
Atlanta’s situation is in litigation. Tampa’s is not. TB’s clusterf!@k isn’t in the legal system. It’s just a spat between two people with no sense. Atlanta’s clusterf!@k is about someone who didn’t want to trade for a player for the Hawks. The whole situation was out of the hands of the NHL to begin with, as it relates both to basketball and it was during the lockout. It’s in court, though, meaning the NHL can’t really step in if they wanted to until a ruling is handed down, and both parties agree the judgment is final.
Regardless of whose fault it is, who the court rules in favor of, and who comes out with the teams, the current ownership group are bloody morons..
The Earl of Bud
August 10th, 2009
10:19 am
WBF, Marianas? Can you just say Guam next time, it would’ve saved me a trip to Wikipedia. It’s bad enough I’ve got the blog open here, then again it’s probably worse that I’ve only heard of Guam and never of the Marianas.
On another note, I know plenty of good Canadians. My shot was at the media as well.
Brendan, when Waddell came into Atlanta, it was actually envisioned as the best set up possible. He was going to be a subsidiary of Turner Sports (whose deep pockets never really showed up), be in a brand new stadium in a town that already has the other 3 major sports leagues, a couple of major college teams and always competes for the Super Bowl to the Final Four and just had the Olympics.
R. Stroz
August 10th, 2009
10:49 am
Too bad John Hughes never did a movie about the Spirit Group titled Spoiled Rotten Brats.
Dwayne
August 10th, 2009
11:17 am
He did, it is called South Park
The Earl of Bud
August 10th, 2009
11:23 am
Of all papers, it was the Los Angeles Times that actually picked up this nugget:
This goat is not alone
Marian Hossa has been the butt of jokes after leaving the Pittsburgh Penguins for the Detroit Red Wings, figuring that would improve his chances of winning the Stanley Cup, only to watch his former Pittsburgh teammates skate away with the cup at this year’s finals.
His native Slovakia poked some fun at him recently, presenting him with a goat named Stanley at the Golden Puck Awards. As the Slovak word for male goat is “cap,” Hossa now has his elusive Stanley cap.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-random10-2009aug10,0,3288118.story
R. Stroz
August 10th, 2009
11:27 am
What did the goat do wrong to deserve that?
Tony C.
August 10th, 2009
11:39 am
Brendan- the economy being a big ponzi scheme? yep. it’s run by a bunch of Chicago Boys ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_school_(economics) )who don’t like the models they inherited from their dads; something called “Neo-Keynsian Economics” ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynsian_economics )and I hope that sometime during my life we can stop retelling these same bad jokes from the same hack comics.
Apologies. Back to hockey!
I’d just like to say how relieved I was to find it was Chicago’s Patrick Kane, and not our Evander Kane. Sad state of affairs to get booked over $5 but I’m sure that Patrick and his people will throw enough money at the problem to make it go away-and he’ll proabably learn to do that the first time in the future. So I hope it does work out for everyone, and again, so glad it’s not our guy!
When does big boy camp start? I am anxious to see these guys all together and see if the “team vibe” is as positive as it was at the end of last season. I don’t see why not, with guys like Armi talking about how they wish they could’ve signed longer deals etc.
Also, anybody else think we made out on the Vernace signing? He was one of the kids that Colorado was forced to play on the blueline at the end of the season due to injuries…I think I made mention of him in particular when we were talking about the Avalanche killing a 5-minute 5-on-3 this past spring I think it was against San Jose-maybe not but it was somebody you’d expect to score on the front AND back ends-honestly I do believe it was SJ… (I’d link it, but honestly, I’m too lazy)
Anyway, all I’m saying is that this guy looked real damn solid for a rook, and I for one, am pleased with the pickup. Gratton, eh. He’s a solid fighter (better than Boults IMHO), but that’s about all he is from what I’ve seen.
I like the “undercard” moves we’ve made over the past few months,like the Vernace signing and if I didn’t know better, I’d think that maybe juuuuuuust maybe somebody over there is trying to build an honest-to-goodness NHL organization.
Glovesave29
August 10th, 2009
12:01 pm
Alan – Phoenix is in litigation, but that has not stopped the NHL from stepping in and trying to sway the judge from ruling in favor of Balsille. The team is a franchisee of the NHL after all, they do have the ultimate say as to what goes on in their name. The league had better be careful here, as if BlackBerry Jim fails in getting the Coyotes, we are next. There are two owners in TB, easier to work things out than with our multi-citied and fractured ownership consortium. It’d be much easier for him to move in here to create added rancor to attempt to move the team to Hamilton. After Atlanta got the shaft with the Flames, I do think the league would do all it can do to keep the team here…they’d better begin doing their groundwork, or this could get ugly.
Alan
August 10th, 2009
12:28 pm
Alan – Phoenix is in litigation, but that has not stopped the NHL from stepping in and trying to sway the judge from ruling in favor of Balsille.
Different situation entirely. Atlanta isn’t in litigation insofar as moving the team is concerned. Atlanta is in litigation because one owner wanted out. The contract the owners signed didn’t account for the situation they encountered. The NHL has nothing to do with the Atlanta situation, but its best interests lay in Phoenix.
Should it come down to Atlanta moving, then the league would step in. However, there’s no such plan in action at the moment, just a bunch of conjecture from the media north of the border hoping to get that “Make It Seven” group foaming at the mouth with rumors of an eighth team in Canadia.
Sara
August 10th, 2009
12:48 pm
Glovesave – keep in mind that the NHL had essentially been given total authority in PHX. They had come in and bailed out the team and taken over general operations. Then Moyes turned around and secretly worked out a deal to sell to Balsillie that involved filing for bankruptcy. But bottomline, Moyes had given the NHL a much more significant stake in the Coyotes franchise than they normally would have. Plus the heart of this fight now is the relocation issue, which the NHL has every right to rule on.
The Spirit fight is purely a matter of contract law, over which the NHL has zero jurisdiction. Besides, they’d probably just as soon stay out of it and not get anyone riled up and I’m betting they are supporting Spirit in this fight anyway. Atlanta Spirit seems intent on keeping the Thrashers, Belkin maybe not so much. And the LAST thing the NHL wants is another franchise up for sale – particularly one in a non-traditional market, for primarily the reason you already outlined – Balsillie.
World Be Free
August 10th, 2009
12:57 pm
Glovesave29-thanks for the clarification on the Tampa story. These days, I hear TSN and I just want to vommit.
I know alotta good Canadians. A good Canadian is normally defined as someone that has a frig full of Molson Ex or Molson Brador.
Smoothie
August 10th, 2009
1:03 pm
Tony C – I’m hoping Vernace is a nice sleeper too because I was disappointed to see Clay Wilson slip away to a division rival (Panthers I think) no less. Although he only played that one game against Fla I was duly impressed with his skating, puck moving and awareness. Perhaps he saw the writing on the wall and knew we were loaded there. With the departure of J-Bo, a guy like Clay Wilson could end up getting the break of his career in south Fla.
World Be Free
August 10th, 2009
1:04 pm
Why are they helping Tampa and not Atlanta? The only thing I can think of is that they can help Tampa, because their situation is not in litigation. That’s my take.
Smoothie
August 10th, 2009
1:06 pm
WBF – TSN may get a little puck crazy, but let’s be thankful they haven’t quite descended to the depths of ESPN, which is basically unwatchable these days save for MLB, NFL (when games are actually played) and some rare, but solid golf coverage. I won’t comment on the NBA because I can’t stand pro basketball. Even college basketball has been ruined by the network that brought it to its current level of popularity.
GaVaHokie
August 10th, 2009
1:09 pm
On the Zherdev front… according to Fourth Period Twitter, ATL is one of the teams looking into Zherdev.
http://twitter.com/thefourthperiod
World Be Free
August 10th, 2009
1:17 pm
Smoothie, right on. I used to really like ESPN, but it has become so shallow, their reporting is horrible. The college football crew makes me sick, they are all trying to be comedians. Thanks man…
On another subject, Brian Burke is supposed to be a genius, but look at the breakdown posted on Hockey Rumors breaking down recent Toronto trades.
“Colaiacovo, Steen, Antropov and Pogge turned out to be Stempniak, 2nd round pick and a late round pick. The conditional pick in the Antropov deal was a 4th rounder, but as far as I can tell the condition of the Rangers making the 3rd round was not met.
McCabe, 4th Round Pick, Stapleton and Kubina was worth Van Ryn, Stuart and Exelby.”
Not the genius as advertised, is he?
GaVaHokie
August 10th, 2009
1:24 pm
Burke wasn’t responsible for the McCabe trade was he? That was before the season started.
GaVaHokie
August 10th, 2009
1:26 pm
You also have to consider the moves Burke made with the freed up money from those deals, like Komisarek, Orr, Beauchemin and Gustavsson
Still, I’m not impressed.
Smoothie
August 10th, 2009
2:07 pm
GVH – I think in this case that is pure, from-the-gut speculation on Pagnotta’s part this time around. We already have our $4 M / year “Russian” in Antropov. And how Zherdev at 3 – 4 times the price of Little is an upgrade over the 21 y/o with as much upside as Zherdev makes no sense whatsoever. Does Zherdev play LW? It’s a big maybe that Kozlov could be slid down one notch to bolster the 3rd line with Marty and Colby (with 1st unit PP mins as well) and accommodate the signing of NZ, but will the ASG really challenge the $50 M mark? I doubt it.
Sara
August 10th, 2009
2:11 pm
Burke’s way over-rated IMO. The Championship team in Anaheim was mostly in place before he ever got there and he lucked into some of the biggest pieces (Teemu already wanted to come back and Scott Neidermeyer was headed wherever his brother was). And the man cannot draft worth a plug nickel. Some folks whine about the Thrashers drafting…but Burke is living proof it could be worse.
He’s not even close to the total package. The only reason he gets so much press is because he’s fiesty and out-spoken, which makes him the press’ best friend.
GaVaHokie
August 10th, 2009
2:18 pm
I’m not sure what happens Smoothie, honestly… just reporting the rumor.
Maybe we trade White, or White moves down to 3rd line LW… but that doesn’t make sense either.
I will say Zherdev has more potential than White and Peverley, but I’d like to see what Peverley can do with a full season… I’d be prone to “sell high” on White.
I see Zherdev playing RW… he can play either side.
Kovy Antro Zherdev
Kozy Peverley Little
White Reasoner Army
Boulton Slater Thorsy
Glovesave29
August 10th, 2009
2:25 pm
Sara, Alan – you’re missing the point. Yes, this situations are quite different in ATL, PHX and TB. We may be in litigation, but that is irrelevant. Do you know how many times documents are filed in court and never make it onto the docket? The NHL could force them into binding arbitration, or even force a sale. The league has the ultimate jurisdiction here, after all, they are the ones who can rescind the franchise. That’s what this is…a franchise of the NHL entity. Now true, NHL bylaws cannot supercede the code of the state/province to which they operate – but the league can easily step in, tell the ASG to get it together by such-and-such date, and our wonderful owners are bound by their agreements with the NHL to act.
The issue with Balsille and Moyes is EXACTLY what I worry about with such a large ownership group. It is more difficult to break up a partnership of two than one of eight. Moyes gave up controlling interest when he asked the NHL to step in to cover costs, thus gave up his rights to rework deals under bankruptcy protection. Balsille played dirty by talking him into filing the TEAM (when it should have been just himself personally) into backruptcy so that his high offer would be selected by the court. Jim’s wrapping himself up in the Canadian flag to garner support, knowing the true nature of his powerplay is underhanded and unethical. He’s acting like a fool. If he’d have played it honestly, I could see the NHL allowing him to move the team to Hamilton. But he lied to both Lemieux in Pittsburgh and Leopold in Nashville about keeping the teams in the current markets – so now he is paying the price with the BOG voting against him. The Coyotes will likely move in the coming years (i’m hoping for Winnipeg), but BlackBerry Jim will never be an owner.
Any way you look at it, if the NHL is setting precedent in PHX and TB, we have every reason to expect similar efforts by the league to protect our asset.
The Earl of Bud
August 10th, 2009
3:00 pm
WBF, let’s look at it this way. In Brian Burke’s first year in Anaheim he traded for Trevor Gillies, Kip Brennan, Bruno St. Jacques, Francois Beauchemin, Tyler Wright, Maxim Kondratiev, Jani Hurme, Sean O’Donnell, Jeff Friesen and Brett Skinner. Not exactly a group of players that makes you think Burke is a genius. But a year later they won the Cup and out of those 10 players mentioned above only Francois Beachemin and Sean O’Donnell were still on the team that won the Cup. Basically what looks like bonehead trades can actually be clearing room to get other players, even if its role players like Brad May that played some key minutes in the playoffs for them that postseason.
Sara, while yes there was a pretty decent core in Anaheim when Burke arrived, don’t you think Burke going out and making the blockbuster trade for Chris Pronger that summer had just a little bit to do with Anaheim winning the Cup the following spring? At what point do you give the GM the credit for making the team changing trade and acquiring the player that put you over the hump, not to mention trading away a big name player like Federov a year earlier that could have set the team back?
R. Stroz
August 10th, 2009
3:37 pm
On the subject of Patrick Kane, with the increase in cab related violence in conjunction with cabbies arming themselves, Kane and his cousin are fortunate that they weren’t capped.
R. Stroz
August 10th, 2009
3:39 pm
Ok, Rawhide has finally indexed the saying, “that’s my .02 cents” for inflation.
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Bill-Tiller/Could-EA-Sports-Drop-Patrick-Kane-from-NHL-10-Cover/127/22479
GaVaHokie
August 10th, 2009
3:55 pm
EOB… well, you can certainly say there will be no trace of Cliff Fletcher or JF Jr. on that team. No one will be able to say wither the former two GM’s “were on the right track” and that “Burke inherited the team”.
He is definitely blowing it up.
The Earl of Bud
August 10th, 2009
3:57 pm
R. Stroz, from what I am hearing it was the cousin who was the instigator but shame on Pat for not being able to control his cousin at that point. I don’t think we will get that facts now anyway. I do expect to see a lot of signs now at Chicago road games that say “keep the change” or perhaps their bench getting littered with dimes.
SI cover, Madden cover, now EA hockey?
The Earl of Bud
August 10th, 2009
4:02 pm
GaVaHokie, true that. I really don’t expact the Leafs to win the Cup in Burke’s 2nd year. We will probably see something closer to Vancouver where he gets the low team back to the playoffs but to expect a Cup is a little extreme.
R. Stroz
August 10th, 2009
4:04 pm
EOB – Every time Kane hits the ice, fans should start chanting 20 cents.
fes
August 10th, 2009
4:35 pm
…or they could have sound clips from the southpark episode with the homeless. change? can you spare some change?
The Earl of Bud
August 10th, 2009
4:35 pm
R. Stroz, his mugshot from the police is now posted on one of the Buffalo websites. I have a feeling that will start popping up at some away games.
GaVaHokie
August 10th, 2009
4:45 pm
Here’s an interview with the cabbie…
http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/local/news_wivb_buffalo_Local_NHL_star_arrested_09082009
Sara
August 10th, 2009
4:53 pm
EOB – FedOrov…sorry, major peeve of mine. I’m not saying Burke deserves NO credit for that Anaheim Cup but there’s a big difference between building a Cup-winning team from the ground up and making a few tinkers to an already existing roster. What he built over time in Vancouver wasn’t exactly all that impressive (by overall NHL standards, not just by comparison to the Thrashers). Bottomline is he’s often considered to be a top GM in the League and I think that’s a way over-blown reputation that he has not earned.
The Earl of Bud
August 10th, 2009
4:55 pm
Unless this is a trap by Darcy Regier to get the hawks to cut ties with him (they will have to part with Kane or Toews after the Hossa signing), this kid is in trouble. The cabbie is not the one that called the police either, so much for the theory that he is just doing this for $$. Although some evidence suggests it may be the cousin who caused all the trouble, it was still just 20 freakin’ cents.
R. Stroz
August 10th, 2009
5:02 pm
Good thing Kane isn’t in Singapore or he’d really get kaned.
60 minutes producers
August 10th, 2009
6:33 pm
Watch our show tonight.
ranallo10 (in AT)
August 10th, 2009
7:42 pm
Rawhide — Did you really just steal my Kane removal from NHL10 cover topic to be used on hockeybuzz?? REALLY!? And not one mention of me? That hurts.
“Anybody want to take a guess at if/when EA Sports will remove Kane from the NHL10 cover?” — ranallo10 (ajc.com, Aug. 9, 1:59 PM ET)
“Could EA Sports Drop Patrick Kane from NHL 10 Cover?” — Rawhide (hockeybuzz.com, Aug. 10, 3:24 PM ET)
Kudos on the $0.20 line.
glovesave — I’d imagine the intricacy of the Spirit owning an NHL and NBA franchise, coupled with the problem being on the basketball side of things, would be the primary reason the NHL doesn’t step in (notice I didn’t say “cannot”). I can’t recall what was said but I remember* Bettman making mention of the “unfortunate situation” in Atlanta and how it would be best for the team and the NHL for them to resolve the problems as soon as possible…I think I also remember him making mention of it being an NBA fueled issue, and ultimately they could do nothing about it (* – all paraphrased based on memory, I could be off on this).
I would hope they put the same fight towards keeping a team in Atlanta as they have for Pittsburgh, Nashville, and Phoenix.
Rawhide
August 10th, 2009
7:52 pm
ranallo – Be on the lookout for the royalty check I sent you in the mail.
The Earl of Bud
August 10th, 2009
8:20 pm
Sara, I didn’t see your post last time I was on, but all in all I think I can agree with you on Burke. My initial point I was trying to make was that what seems like bad trades or junk players can actually just be clearing room for some real additions. Burke trading for Ken Klee seems completely idiotic, but when you factor in that it cleared $5 mil in cap space to sign a holdout, well now it makes sense. Yeah, he is overrated and I even posted later that I think he will just get Toronto back to the playoffs like in Vancouver, not be a post-season success there which he wasn’t in Vancouver either. I think you may have seen my posts that my vote for top GM is sweet Lou by a longshot.
“I’d imagine the intricacy of the Spirit owning an NHL and NBA franchise, coupled with the problem being on the basketball side of things, would be the primary reason the NHL doesn’t step in (notice I didn’t say “cannot”).”
ranallo10 (in AT), kudos, I really didn’t have an opinion on this whole subject or any posts in that dialogue, but that was the best comment I read on it. Not that I know what the reasons are for Bettman keeping quite but that seems to make a lot of sense.
ranallo10 (in AT)
August 10th, 2009
8:35 pm
Rawhide — Let me guess, you cut the check for $0.20? Don’t forget to tip your waitress.
World Be Free
August 10th, 2009
8:59 pm
Stroz-you been watching videos of henny Youngman on YouTube? You got the one-lines going tonight.
I betcha his old man kicked his ass when he got home.
World Be Free
August 10th, 2009
9:03 pm
Burke’s team better makes strides in year two or they are going to have his head on a pole. We’ve said it before-he’s dealing in a market that has no patience. JFJ didn’t do him any favors either.
GaVaHokie–You’re right about McCabe being gone early in the season. Still, Leafs trades don’t look too stellar so far.
Can’t go a day these days without mentioning that slithering snake Baisille – he is hockey’s version of Jerry Jones!
Bob
August 10th, 2009
9:22 pm
lol, haven’t checked in here for forever and the usual suspects are still trying to convince themselves they’re not wrong about Burke, in August, no less.
Any news on negotiations with Kovy? That’s not a good sign
World Be Free
August 10th, 2009
9:41 pm
Bob-it’s either Burke or Baisille to talk about, can’t decide on which idiot! Now Jim B. wants an investigation as to why the NHL won’t accept him in their club. It ’s like calling the police if a chic won’t go on a date wirh you!
Jim, maybe they won’t give you a franchise to move to that toilet of the western world-Hamilton, Ontario!
Rawhide
August 10th, 2009
9:48 pm
Ranallous Maximus – A check for 20 cents? HA!
How about I simply deliver to you personally this
RANALLO WARNING 
??
Tony C.
August 10th, 2009
9:55 pm
Just look at the contracts coming off the books for Burke at the end of the upcoming season and then compare to upcoming UFAs… T-dot’s got the checkbook, and Burke gets called lots of things, but I’ve yet to hear “cheap” come out of anybody but an agent. I’m not going to be surprised to see him run real hard at #17.
I’m afraid #17 knows that too.
World Be Free
August 10th, 2009
10:07 pm
If you want to fill your club with UFAs, you’ll run out of money real quick. Then you will have a roster made of guys who are being paid for yesterday’s accomplishments. Example-Montreal Canadians
That will not get Toronto the Stanley Cup.
I.C. Wiener
August 10th, 2009
10:41 pm
One month until hockey…and Ice Girls!
F the off-season!!
R. Stroz
August 10th, 2009
11:27 pm
WBF – You gave me something to do tomorrow during the boring market hours (11:00AM to 12:00 PM). I can look up Henny Youngman on YouTube.
World Be Free
August 11th, 2009
7:48 am
Stroz-Henny or Rodney Danderfield
Brendan
August 11th, 2009
8:56 am
This Kane incident, if any of the cabbie’s account is true, is ridiculous. I realize … it was late, or early, depending on your point of view. And that booze were probably involved. But Pat Kane has got to show more maturity than this. I know. I know. “He showed maturity by taking a cab home, instead of driving himself.” Honestly, who asks for change back from a $15 fare?
You know what will happen, right? Fans holding derogatory signs with two dimes taped to them, taunting Kane, in away rinks.
World Be Free
August 11th, 2009
9:31 pm
Brendan-especially happeneing in the kid’s own backyard where people have so much respect for him. It’s all pretty foolish to me.