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	<title>Comments on: Dan Kamal Gives Voice To Thrasherville, Pt. II</title>
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		<title>By: World Be Free</title>
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		<dc:creator>World Be Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ise fan, if Marty and Rollie are your goalies, than you are doing pretty good.   In my opinion, you have upgraded the most important position over last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ise fan, if Marty and Rollie are your goalies, than you are doing pretty good.   In my opinion, you have upgraded the most important position over last year.</p>
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		<title>By: FormerIslesFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>FormerIslesFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just my $.02 on some things being discussed.  No new, great revelations here.

On Hossa:  You know, I distinctly remember back when Hossa was finishing up his tour of duty in Atlanta making comments to my wife that he was not dropping his shoulder and driving to the net as he had done the previous year during the playoff run.  I certainly was not the only one making that observation as it was well documented in the blogs of the time.  However, I am not sure off my head which shoulder is now being revealed as injured.  I know that he is a left-handed shot.  I would expect that to mean that he would usually drop his left shoulder (especially if coming down the RW, as was his position) when driving the net.  Does anyone know if it is his left shoulder that is injured?

Does that mean that he was hurt then?  By no means.  However, it&#039;s an interesting fact to note, nonetheless.

On the Isles&#039; goalie logjam:  Okay, Being the FIF that I am, this one raised my eyebrow when I saw it.  The ony thing I can think is that DP was/is FAR more injured/slower into recovery than anyone has let on and won&#039;t be back any time soon (re: before January 2010).  As I recall from the all-star game in Atlanta, DP made the comment about pulling his &quot;f*cking hip&quot; (ergo, it was not a knee injury).  My guess: pretty much what people have said:  Biron and Rollie will be the tandom on the Island until DP comes back and then the Isles will look to trade whichever of them they can get better value for (Rollie is a 2yr contract, Biron is a 1 yr, I believe).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just my $.02 on some things being discussed.  No new, great revelations here.</p>
<p>On Hossa:  You know, I distinctly remember back when Hossa was finishing up his tour of duty in Atlanta making comments to my wife that he was not dropping his shoulder and driving to the net as he had done the previous year during the playoff run.  I certainly was not the only one making that observation as it was well documented in the blogs of the time.  However, I am not sure off my head which shoulder is now being revealed as injured.  I know that he is a left-handed shot.  I would expect that to mean that he would usually drop his left shoulder (especially if coming down the RW, as was his position) when driving the net.  Does anyone know if it is his left shoulder that is injured?</p>
<p>Does that mean that he was hurt then?  By no means.  However, it&#8217;s an interesting fact to note, nonetheless.</p>
<p>On the Isles&#8217; goalie logjam:  Okay, Being the FIF that I am, this one raised my eyebrow when I saw it.  The ony thing I can think is that DP was/is FAR more injured/slower into recovery than anyone has let on and won&#8217;t be back any time soon (re: before January 2010).  As I recall from the all-star game in Atlanta, DP made the comment about pulling his &#8220;f*cking hip&#8221; (ergo, it was not a knee injury).  My guess: pretty much what people have said:  Biron and Rollie will be the tandom on the Island until DP comes back and then the Isles will look to trade whichever of them they can get better value for (Rollie is a 2yr contract, Biron is a 1 yr, I believe).</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vecsey was the fan blogger between &quot;Ice Princess&quot; and &quot;Rawhide.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vecsey was the fan blogger between &#8220;Ice Princess&#8221; and &#8220;Rawhide.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: The Earl of Bud (formerly Ice Dog)</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Earl of Bud (formerly Ice Dog)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>World Be Free, I can&#039;t wait to see what you bring out of the archives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>World Be Free, I can&#8217;t wait to see what you bring out of the archives.</p>
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		<title>By: World Be Free</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/2009/07/21/dan-kamal-gives-voice-to-thrasherville-pt-ii/comment-page-4/#comment-7368</link>
		<dc:creator>World Be Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earl-those names are good, but too obvious.  We have to dip into the archives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earl-those names are good, but too obvious.  We have to dip into the archives.</p>
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		<title>By: The Earl of Bud (formerly Ice Dog)</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/2009/07/21/dan-kamal-gives-voice-to-thrasherville-pt-ii/comment-page-4/#comment-7365</link>
		<dc:creator>The Earl of Bud (formerly Ice Dog)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>World Be Free, I want to see what you come up with but I gotta admit, seeing &quot;Charlie the Butcher&quot; just made me crack up and is quite fitting for you.  Even &quot;Anchor Bar&quot; would crack a lot of folks up.  I think Rucchin just retired after we finally put him on LTIR.

Brendan, who is David Vecsey, is that PV&#039;s son?  Does he do hockey?  Anyway, what was the general feel about Hossa before we traded him around here?  Some folks I talked to would whisper the &quot;he&#039;s afraid to get hurt&quot; lines because he didn&#039;t drive hard on a ton of plays but we treated them like they were conspiracy theories, nothing legit.  But now that you say it like this, it is interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>World Be Free, I want to see what you come up with but I gotta admit, seeing &#8220;Charlie the Butcher&#8221; just made me crack up and is quite fitting for you.  Even &#8220;Anchor Bar&#8221; would crack a lot of folks up.  I think Rucchin just retired after we finally put him on LTIR.</p>
<p>Brendan, who is David Vecsey, is that PV&#8217;s son?  Does he do hockey?  Anyway, what was the general feel about Hossa before we traded him around here?  Some folks I talked to would whisper the &#8220;he&#8217;s afraid to get hurt&#8221; lines because he didn&#8217;t drive hard on a ton of plays but we treated them like they were conspiracy theories, nothing legit.  But now that you say it like this, it is interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Rawhide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rawhide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Sam&lt;/strong&gt; - I think maybe &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/2009/07/23/too-early-for-predictions/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this will serve as a more detailed answer&lt;/a&gt; to the question you asked me earlier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Sam</strong> &#8211; I think maybe <a href="http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/2009/07/23/too-early-for-predictions/" rel="nofollow">this will serve as a more detailed answer</a> to the question you asked me earlier.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/2009/07/21/dan-kamal-gives-voice-to-thrasherville-pt-ii/comment-page-4/#comment-7362</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember all kinds of speculation on the Fan blog, under David Vecsey&#039;s watch, that &quot;Hossa refused to drop his shoulder and drive to the net,&quot; allegedly, supposedly because he was trying not to be injured before hitting the open market in July 2008.  Some posters suggested Hossa was nursing a shoulder injury, and that it was hampering his point production for Atlanta in the 2008 season.  

That&#039;s a whole lot of speculation, mind you.  But I do recall those discussions taking place here.  Others labeled Hossa a &quot;quitter,&quot; who wouldn&#039;t try as hard as before.  If it turns out that Hossa has been playing hurt all that time, it would explain some things.  But I would have thought Pittsburgh&#039;s doctors would take note of it, if he were hurt while with the Penguins.   Hossa&#039;s 2008 playoff numbers were very good.  Better than a point a game, if I recall correctly.  Maybe Hossa was thinking, &quot;I gotta get to Detroit.  Forget the surgery.  I&#039;ll go for the Cup with the Red Wings in 2009.  And after the season, I&#039;ll have the surgery after I get my contract.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember all kinds of speculation on the Fan blog, under David Vecsey&#8217;s watch, that &#8220;Hossa refused to drop his shoulder and drive to the net,&#8221; allegedly, supposedly because he was trying not to be injured before hitting the open market in July 2008.  Some posters suggested Hossa was nursing a shoulder injury, and that it was hampering his point production for Atlanta in the 2008 season.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s a whole lot of speculation, mind you.  But I do recall those discussions taking place here.  Others labeled Hossa a &#8220;quitter,&#8221; who wouldn&#8217;t try as hard as before.  If it turns out that Hossa has been playing hurt all that time, it would explain some things.  But I would have thought Pittsburgh&#8217;s doctors would take note of it, if he were hurt while with the Penguins.   Hossa&#8217;s 2008 playoff numbers were very good.  Better than a point a game, if I recall correctly.  Maybe Hossa was thinking, &#8220;I gotta get to Detroit.  Forget the surgery.  I&#8217;ll go for the Cup with the Red Wings in 2009.  And after the season, I&#8217;ll have the surgery after I get my contract.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: World Be Free</title>
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		<dc:creator>World Be Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earl of Bud-OK, I will take into consideration changing my name to something more retro to our origins.  I selected World Be Free in honor of one of my favorite NBA payers from the 70&#039;s.  I have no favorite NBA players today, so a new name is in order.  More to come.....

I must also confess that I am also Ice Meister.  This name is now retired.
 
Alan-never sit down at the blog with coffee, wine or beer (depending on where you are at the time). 

What ever happened to Rucchin?

This stuff about Hossa is comical.  Now we have a potential pissing contest between Detroit and Chicago over the origin of his injury and who knew about it.  Ay those tier 1 free agents, why I always liked tier 2 instead.

Another question, has anyone heard any good rumors about San Jose aside from them possibly picking up Dany Scumbag?  That&#039;s all they need, another selfish slug who totally lack leadership.  I thought they would have made a trade or 2 by now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earl of Bud-OK, I will take into consideration changing my name to something more retro to our origins.  I selected World Be Free in honor of one of my favorite NBA payers from the 70&#8217;s.  I have no favorite NBA players today, so a new name is in order.  More to come&#8230;..</p>
<p>I must also confess that I am also Ice Meister.  This name is now retired.</p>
<p>Alan-never sit down at the blog with coffee, wine or beer (depending on where you are at the time). </p>
<p>What ever happened to Rucchin?</p>
<p>This stuff about Hossa is comical.  Now we have a potential pissing contest between Detroit and Chicago over the origin of his injury and who knew about it.  Ay those tier 1 free agents, why I always liked tier 2 instead.</p>
<p>Another question, has anyone heard any good rumors about San Jose aside from them possibly picking up Dany Scumbag?  That&#8217;s all they need, another selfish slug who totally lack leadership.  I thought they would have made a trade or 2 by now.</p>
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		<title>By: World Be Free</title>
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		<dc:creator>World Be Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, I agree but I also remember last year when Tampa Bay traded and signed a bunch of new guys.  That did not work out too well for them.  I think quality acquisitions are most important.  I hope we have one more name in our future.  

In addition to this, I have no idea why BArry Melrose would give up his cushy job at ESPN to return to coaching the sorry Lightning.  He&#039;s lucky he was able to get his job back.  He and Barnaby make a great team.  

We have all had enough of seeing the Thrashers make their off season place in February.  Let&#039;s hope the blog this year is all about how we can compete for the division and hopefully bring home a playoff spot without mortgaging our future-again.

Pam – the name is great as long as we are talking Charlie the Butcher, Anderson’s Anchor Bar or Schwable’s Beef on Wick.

Perrin is still available</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, I agree but I also remember last year when Tampa Bay traded and signed a bunch of new guys.  That did not work out too well for them.  I think quality acquisitions are most important.  I hope we have one more name in our future.  </p>
<p>In addition to this, I have no idea why BArry Melrose would give up his cushy job at ESPN to return to coaching the sorry Lightning.  He&#8217;s lucky he was able to get his job back.  He and Barnaby make a great team.  </p>
<p>We have all had enough of seeing the Thrashers make their off season place in February.  Let&#8217;s hope the blog this year is all about how we can compete for the division and hopefully bring home a playoff spot without mortgaging our future-again.</p>
<p>Pam – the name is great as long as we are talking Charlie the Butcher, Anderson’s Anchor Bar or Schwable’s Beef on Wick.</p>
<p>Perrin is still available</p>
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