When I caught up with Dan last week during the Thrashers prospect camp, he was keeping an eye one particular player of interest…his son Chris Kamal, a goalie. I asked him how Chris was playing and how his recovery was coming along. “I’m very proud of the way that he has reacted to the adversity”, said Kamal. “He had come off a very strong year in his first season in junior hockey…and was looking forward to his second year when he had a freak off-ice injury and suffered a complicated break of his tibia and fibula…and it cost him the whole ‘08-’09 season”.
But, according to the senior Kamal, he’s been up to playing speed since February and is in “the best shape of his life and playing the best hockey of his life…but now he needs to catch a break” in trying to land a position on a junior hockey team.
And as would be expected, as we discussed his son and the other prospects out on the ice, the topic turned toward the Thrashers’ future. Like Chris, the Thrashers have had to go through some adversities of their own over the past couple of years, escpecially since that single foray into the postseason.
And again, Kamal has seen it go from the highs of those two playoff games in Atlanta…to the lows of the way things went in the following season and the beginning of last year…..to the improved play of last spring. He believes the team can get back to where it was just a few short seasons ago.
“Those two games here for the playoffs were beyond my expectations…and it can get back to that. I look at this as a fabulous hockey town. I really think Atlanta is a great hockey town just waiting to erupt when this team…which I believe has turned a major corner… starts to become a perennial playoff contender”.
“But I think what people don’t remember is that it’s hard to win in pro sports. I mean, Buffalo Sabres…no Stanley Cup. Vancouver Canucks…no Stanley Cup. They’ve been around for decades. So, I think the thing you want to do as a franchise is build a foundation…which is not so easy in a salary cap era…build a foundation for you to be a perennial playoff contender. And then you have to hope for health…for your best players to be your best players…maybe get lucky with a guy who you don’t expect to have a career year to do so and maybe make a few tweaks along the way and go from there”.
And about the two disappointing seasons since then?
“For me to see a franchise that’s this young to have had some setbacks…I don’t think that’s abnormal”.
OK, but what of certain self-induced set backs…like, say, the Zhitnik/Coburn deal?
“There was the playoff run, and then the lull in January, and then the trade of Coburn for Zhitnik…and I know a lot of people say ‘Oh you traded Coburn for Zhitnik’, but he played very well [after the trade]. Zhitnik helped the team get back on course for that playoff run. Had the Thrashers been able to win a round or win some games against the Rangers, certainly that trade would have been looked upon more favorably”.
Fair enough, Dan…but what about where the team is now?
“To me what’s very encouraging is the direction the team is going now. It’s a young team… a young foundation, and I think it’s moving forward. It’s clear there is some talent in this franchise and [they are] going to become real impact players. When you’re adding guys like Zach Bogosian and Evander Kane, when you have young guys like Bryan Little and the way he impacted the way he did in his first full year …and Colby Armstrong with his leadership skills …and Toby Enstrom…your starting to get good young ‘faces’ to this franchise that are going to be instrumental in getting this team where it needs to go”.
We then began discussing some of the “faces” that make up today’s Thrashers organization…players such as Bryan Little who he decribed as, “Quiet…tough…surprisingly productive. Gives you that versatility to play either on the wing or center…learned how to score goals in tough areas”.
And what do you think of Zach Bogosian’s potential? ”How high is the ceiling [as far as his potential]…you may not be able to see the ceiling…that good. And to think he just turned 19″.
Of Rich Peverley, Kamal said, ”What a find. Just another example of when some guys get a chance to showcase their skills in an area where they’re given the opportunity and the coach shows confidence in them. It’s much like life…timing and opportunity”.
Now, could the same be said about the newly acquired Anthony Stewart? “Yes, could be…big guy, former first rounder…ya know what comes first, the minutes or the production”?
Kari Lehtonen… “When he’s on his game, I think he’s one of the top-five talents in the NHL…down low, as good as there is. When he develops consistency both in terms of health and his game. I think he’s gonna be one of the best”.
Of course, the position of goaltending will always be one that draws a lot of criticism from fans…he’s the guy that “let in” the goal. Is that harsh?
“Goalies ya know…yeah rebound control is a big thing but they’re human beings. They can’t control every rebound every time. You don’t notice it when they don’t control a rebound and a defender comes in and conveniently sweeps it away”.
“When I was growing up in this sport, the old adage was ‘well, goalies don’t really get it until they’re 25, 26 or 27′…well, Kari’s 25. So it’s a younger man’s game now so everyone kinda expects goalies to ‘get it’ when they’re 21, 22, 23…[but] I think having shown patience with Kari will prove to have been a good thing”.
Now we add to that mix a couple of, what I believe to be, very good pick ups. One being Pavel Kubina. ”I did a demo tape for the Thrashers back in 1998 down in Tampa…Tampa versus Florida…Pavel Kubina was playing for Tampa. I’ve like him since that day. His big, he’s got enough snarle to him…mobile…he’s got a great shot, gives you flexibility on the power play…he’s only 32-years old…big pickup”.
And Nik Antropov? “All I need to know about him…other then he’s 6-6, 240-ish…is that he and Kovalchuk played real well together in the World Championship. I’m very much looking forward to that continuing here”.
Of course, no discussion of Atlanta’s lineup would be complete if Ilya Kovalchuk wasn’t included… ”I think he’s as dynamic a player that there is in the NHL. Certainly Alex Ovechkin getting more attention, and deservedly so…but when Kovy has the puck I lean forward… and I have an inkling that 17,000 others are following suit. If he make you pay more attention or makes you move physically when he has the puck, and Kovalchuk does that for me, to me that’s the biggest complement you can pay a guy”.
And of John Anderson’s first season as an NHL head coach, Kamal said, ”I think John Anderson stayed true to what he wanted to do with this team. It was a learning curve, I’m sure, for him and the players. It maybe took a little bit longer than players and coach would have liked. But man, when it kicked in this team was tough to play against, exciting…I just wish the season had not ended in April. I’m looking for that to carry over on October 3″.
Ok, so there are some good players on the roster…what does the radio voice of Thrasherville make of the team’s chances going into the season?
“I think the team defense will be better…maybe a little less pressure on the goaltending. If Kari Lehtonen, if he’s the guy, or Pavelec or Moose Hedberg…if they come in and play there games and play them extremely well and you give this team reasonably good health and solid goaltending, I think a a playoff push in my mind would be an expectation”.
During summertime, outside of certain broadcast “housekeeping” chores, Kamal fills his offseason time by “doing as many public appearances as the team needs”. Whether it’s a social appearance or charitable event, he’s more than happy to assist. Living here year-round he thinks is very important to talk hockey. “Not only to the folks who are not yet fans…certainly you want to earn their business…but also to people who are fans. To just maintain that connection and maintain that passion”.
“It’s kind of a two fold thing…the fans give me passion for the game and I try to give it back”.
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World Be Free
July 23rd, 2009
12:14 pm
Sam, I agree but I also remember last year when Tampa Bay traded and signed a bunch of new guys. That did not work out too well for them. I think quality acquisitions are most important. I hope we have one more name in our future.
In addition to this, I have no idea why BArry Melrose would give up his cushy job at ESPN to return to coaching the sorry Lightning. He’s lucky he was able to get his job back. He and Barnaby make a great team.
We have all had enough of seeing the Thrashers make their off season place in February. Let’s hope the blog this year is all about how we can compete for the division and hopefully bring home a playoff spot without mortgaging our future-again.
Pam – the name is great as long as we are talking Charlie the Butcher, Anderson’s Anchor Bar or Schwable’s Beef on Wick.
Perrin is still available
World Be Free
July 23rd, 2009
12:35 pm
Earl of Bud-OK, I will take into consideration changing my name to something more retro to our origins. I selected World Be Free in honor of one of my favorite NBA payers from the 70’s. I have no favorite NBA players today, so a new name is in order. More to come…..
I must also confess that I am also Ice Meister. This name is now retired.
Alan-never sit down at the blog with coffee, wine or beer (depending on where you are at the time).
What ever happened to Rucchin?
This stuff about Hossa is comical. Now we have a potential pissing contest between Detroit and Chicago over the origin of his injury and who knew about it. Ay those tier 1 free agents, why I always liked tier 2 instead.
Another question, has anyone heard any good rumors about San Jose aside from them possibly picking up Dany Scumbag? That’s all they need, another selfish slug who totally lack leadership. I thought they would have made a trade or 2 by now.
Brendan
July 23rd, 2009
12:53 pm
I remember all kinds of speculation on the Fan blog, under David Vecsey’s watch, that “Hossa refused to drop his shoulder and drive to the net,” allegedly, supposedly because he was trying not to be injured before hitting the open market in July 2008. Some posters suggested Hossa was nursing a shoulder injury, and that it was hampering his point production for Atlanta in the 2008 season.
That’s a whole lot of speculation, mind you. But I do recall those discussions taking place here. Others labeled Hossa a “quitter,” who wouldn’t try as hard as before. If it turns out that Hossa has been playing hurt all that time, it would explain some things. But I would have thought Pittsburgh’s doctors would take note of it, if he were hurt while with the Penguins. Hossa’s 2008 playoff numbers were very good. Better than a point a game, if I recall correctly. Maybe Hossa was thinking, “I gotta get to Detroit. Forget the surgery. I’ll go for the Cup with the Red Wings in 2009. And after the season, I’ll have the surgery after I get my contract.”
Rawhide
July 23rd, 2009
1:29 pm
Sam – I think maybe this will serve as a more detailed answer to the question you asked me earlier.
The Earl of Bud (formerly Ice Dog)
July 23rd, 2009
1:38 pm
World Be Free, I want to see what you come up with but I gotta admit, seeing “Charlie the Butcher” just made me crack up and is quite fitting for you. Even “Anchor Bar” would crack a lot of folks up. I think Rucchin just retired after we finally put him on LTIR.
Brendan, who is David Vecsey, is that PV’s son? Does he do hockey? Anyway, what was the general feel about Hossa before we traded him around here? Some folks I talked to would whisper the “he’s afraid to get hurt” lines because he didn’t drive hard on a ton of plays but we treated them like they were conspiracy theories, nothing legit. But now that you say it like this, it is interesting.
World Be Free
July 23rd, 2009
1:52 pm
Earl-those names are good, but too obvious. We have to dip into the archives.
The Earl of Bud (formerly Ice Dog)
July 23rd, 2009
1:56 pm
World Be Free, I can’t wait to see what you bring out of the archives.
Brendan
July 23rd, 2009
2:20 pm
Vecsey was the fan blogger between “Ice Princess” and “Rawhide.”
FormerIslesFan
July 23rd, 2009
2:47 pm
Just my $.02 on some things being discussed. No new, great revelations here.
On Hossa: You know, I distinctly remember back when Hossa was finishing up his tour of duty in Atlanta making comments to my wife that he was not dropping his shoulder and driving to the net as he had done the previous year during the playoff run. I certainly was not the only one making that observation as it was well documented in the blogs of the time. However, I am not sure off my head which shoulder is now being revealed as injured. I know that he is a left-handed shot. I would expect that to mean that he would usually drop his left shoulder (especially if coming down the RW, as was his position) when driving the net. Does anyone know if it is his left shoulder that is injured?
Does that mean that he was hurt then? By no means. However, it’s an interesting fact to note, nonetheless.
On the Isles’ goalie logjam: Okay, Being the FIF that I am, this one raised my eyebrow when I saw it. The ony thing I can think is that DP was/is FAR more injured/slower into recovery than anyone has let on and won’t be back any time soon (re: before January 2010). As I recall from the all-star game in Atlanta, DP made the comment about pulling his “f*cking hip” (ergo, it was not a knee injury). My guess: pretty much what people have said: Biron and Rollie will be the tandom on the Island until DP comes back and then the Isles will look to trade whichever of them they can get better value for (Rollie is a 2yr contract, Biron is a 1 yr, I believe).
World Be Free
July 23rd, 2009
8:47 pm
Ise fan, if Marty and Rollie are your goalies, than you are doing pretty good. In my opinion, you have upgraded the most important position over last year.