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		<title>By: B. Thenet</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/2009/06/23/this-one-goes-to-eleven/comment-page-3/#comment-5155</link>
		<dc:creator>B. Thenet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gionta is small, but he also can pull Top 6 minutes AND kills penalties.

Not a bad combo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gionta is small, but he also can pull Top 6 minutes AND kills penalties.</p>
<p>Not a bad combo</p>
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		<title>By: dwayne</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/2009/06/23/this-one-goes-to-eleven/comment-page-3/#comment-5153</link>
		<dc:creator>dwayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LAC...I waited for that interview too....just strengthens my point that we/us/Thrashers get no ink/airtime/respect, what ever you wanna call it. I&#039;m starting to like MPS more and more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LAC&#8230;I waited for that interview too&#8230;.just strengthens my point that we/us/Thrashers get no ink/airtime/respect, what ever you wanna call it. I&#8217;m starting to like MPS more and more.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Lysiak</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/2009/06/23/this-one-goes-to-eleven/comment-page-3/#comment-5152</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Lysiak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don, please don&#039;t trade this pick unless....

This is a great position to be sitting in. Say you assume what the &quot;experts&quot; say is correct and the class of the draft is Tavares, Hedman, Duchene. Say you assume there are no surprises in the actual selections other than the order they are chosen. You get to choose from every amateur player in the world not named Tavares, Hedman or Duchene. 

Everyone knows that drafting players is an inexact science. There is no such thing as a &quot;can&#039;t miss&quot; because of the human element involved. But, GM&#039;s who have the guts to make that call live for picks like this. GM&#039;s who have scouting departments with proven track records live for this pick. They know that one player who is sitting just below the annointed three. They somehow know the three who have separated themselves from the pack is really four, before &quot;the dropoff&quot;. Someone out there has a very clear evaluation and reason why Kane, MPS, Schenn or whoever is &quot;the guy&quot;. 

These are the GM&#039;s who scare me. They are circling the water, just waiting for the right time to strike. The type of GM who would say, &quot;Don, we&#039;ll give you Kaberle and our 7th for your 4th&quot;. Unless someone like Lombardi says, &quot;Don, we&#039;ll give you Jack Johnson or Kopitar and our 5th pick for the 4th pick&quot;, you say no thanks. It has to be a deal like that where everyone says &quot;that was a no-brainer and too good to pass up&quot;.

Otherwise, you better have done your due diligence and are truly prepared to make the right call. Hopefully, Dudley brings that insight and ability with him since the existing group scares the bejesus out of me....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don, please don&#8217;t trade this pick unless&#8230;.</p>
<p>This is a great position to be sitting in. Say you assume what the &#8220;experts&#8221; say is correct and the class of the draft is Tavares, Hedman, Duchene. Say you assume there are no surprises in the actual selections other than the order they are chosen. You get to choose from every amateur player in the world not named Tavares, Hedman or Duchene. </p>
<p>Everyone knows that drafting players is an inexact science. There is no such thing as a &#8220;can&#8217;t miss&#8221; because of the human element involved. But, GM&#8217;s who have the guts to make that call live for picks like this. GM&#8217;s who have scouting departments with proven track records live for this pick. They know that one player who is sitting just below the annointed three. They somehow know the three who have separated themselves from the pack is really four, before &#8220;the dropoff&#8221;. Someone out there has a very clear evaluation and reason why Kane, MPS, Schenn or whoever is &#8220;the guy&#8221;. </p>
<p>These are the GM&#8217;s who scare me. They are circling the water, just waiting for the right time to strike. The type of GM who would say, &#8220;Don, we&#8217;ll give you Kaberle and our 7th for your 4th&#8221;. Unless someone like Lombardi says, &#8220;Don, we&#8217;ll give you Jack Johnson or Kopitar and our 5th pick for the 4th pick&#8221;, you say no thanks. It has to be a deal like that where everyone says &#8220;that was a no-brainer and too good to pass up&#8221;.</p>
<p>Otherwise, you better have done your due diligence and are truly prepared to make the right call. Hopefully, Dudley brings that insight and ability with him since the existing group scares the bejesus out of me&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that will do nicely, R.Stroz.</description>
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		<title>By: R. Stroz</title>
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		<dc:creator>R. Stroz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendan - The word you&#039;re looking for is &quot;flub&quot; it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendan &#8211; The word you&#8217;re looking for is &#8220;flub&#8221; it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian Burke&#039;s interview on the &quot;Hodge Stove League,&quot; on the NHL Network, has been repeated several times now.  But each time I see it, I pick up on something new that he said.  One of the things that piqued my curiosity was this nugget, &quot;Forget about trades.  No one can make IMPACT trades anymore.  Not with the cap.&quot;  Or words to this effect.  I&#039;m not sure I agree with that.  I still think it&#039;s possible to move a Top 4 defender for a Top six forward, so that each team gets what they NEED.  (Wasn&#039;t that R. Whitney for Kris Kunitz?, someone might say.  Remember, you can&#039;t hear me. I&#039;m inside parenthesis.  Ask your English teacher.  Focus on the concept, not the players as you read.)  To me, that&#039;s the hallmark of a GOOD trade.  It benefits both teams.  When the cap was $39 million, and Boston traded Joe Thornton for Brad Stuart, Wayne Primeau, and Marco Sturm, we all thought this might be &quot;the new NHL kind of trade.&quot;   If the cap had stayed at $39 million, perhaps it might have been.  But the cap grew so large that $40.7 million became the floor.  Would the Bruins have pulled the trigger on that Thornton deal if the cap were $56.7 million, back in 2005?  I suppose if you believe that they thought Thornton was &quot;The Problem,&quot; then yes.  Maybe they&#039;d still do it.  But I digress.

Burke said, &quot;I&#039;ve lost the element of surprise.  They now know I&#039;m coming.&quot;  I thought about that.  It didn&#039;t prevent the Islanders from gift wrapping Luc Schenn for them, at CONSENSUS pick at #5 overall, at the cost of the Isles choice of Toronto&#039;s 2nd rounder that year and a 3rd rounder in 2009, or a 3rd rounder last year and a 2nd rounder in 2009.  I forgot which option the Isles chose.  Time will tell if those 2nd and 3rd rounders were indeed &quot;throw away&quot; picks they sacrificed at the expense of a high-end blueliner prospect, or if they actually blossom into complimentary pieces for their ultimate draft selection of Josh Bailey at #9.   Who I thought was an appropriate selection for pick #9 in the draft.  Would I have picked Josh Bailey at #5?  No.  I believed that thennnn, as I still believe it now.  (And I&#039;m still inclined to believe that defense wins championships in hockey, even in the &quot;new&quot; NHL.  Even though there&#039;s evidence that points to the contrary.)

It makes me think, though, if Kane really is &lt;strong&gt; the best possible pick at #4, &lt;/strong&gt; why trade it?   Make the pick.  Brian Burke also said, &quot;My scouts earn their pay in June.  They worked all year for it.&quot;  Well, I don&#039;t doubt, for one split second, that even Atlanta&#039;s scouts have done more evaluating of this year&#039;s draft class than we (bloggers) have.  

I checked with Rawhide, this blog DOESN&#039;T have a travel budget for scouting.  So, I would hope ... ESPECIALLY with the addition of Dudley, that their homework is complete.  If it&#039;s really Kane ... who is the best selection, and a MISTAKE NOT TO SELECT HIM, then that&#039;s what they&#039;ll do, I plead.   I can&#039;t tell you that Kane is the best choice.  I don&#039;t think it&#039;s that cut and dry.  He &#039;may&#039; be.  I don&#039;t know that.  But THOSE SCOUTS should.  &lt;strong&gt;They get PAID to know.&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;strong&gt; PJ??  Are you up in this house??  Can you craft a Draft Day prayer for the Thrashers?&lt;/strong&gt;  I ask PJ, because if the PRAYER is left up to me, it&#039;d sound something like this.  &quot;Dear God.  Please don&#039;t let us (bleep) it up.  Amen.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian Burke&#8217;s interview on the &#8220;Hodge Stove League,&#8221; on the NHL Network, has been repeated several times now.  But each time I see it, I pick up on something new that he said.  One of the things that piqued my curiosity was this nugget, &#8220;Forget about trades.  No one can make IMPACT trades anymore.  Not with the cap.&#8221;  Or words to this effect.  I&#8217;m not sure I agree with that.  I still think it&#8217;s possible to move a Top 4 defender for a Top six forward, so that each team gets what they NEED.  (Wasn&#8217;t that R. Whitney for Kris Kunitz?, someone might say.  Remember, you can&#8217;t hear me. I&#8217;m inside parenthesis.  Ask your English teacher.  Focus on the concept, not the players as you read.)  To me, that&#8217;s the hallmark of a GOOD trade.  It benefits both teams.  When the cap was $39 million, and Boston traded Joe Thornton for Brad Stuart, Wayne Primeau, and Marco Sturm, we all thought this might be &#8220;the new NHL kind of trade.&#8221;   If the cap had stayed at $39 million, perhaps it might have been.  But the cap grew so large that $40.7 million became the floor.  Would the Bruins have pulled the trigger on that Thornton deal if the cap were $56.7 million, back in 2005?  I suppose if you believe that they thought Thornton was &#8220;The Problem,&#8221; then yes.  Maybe they&#8217;d still do it.  But I digress.</p>
<p>Burke said, &#8220;I&#8217;ve lost the element of surprise.  They now know I&#8217;m coming.&#8221;  I thought about that.  It didn&#8217;t prevent the Islanders from gift wrapping Luc Schenn for them, at CONSENSUS pick at #5 overall, at the cost of the Isles choice of Toronto&#8217;s 2nd rounder that year and a 3rd rounder in 2009, or a 3rd rounder last year and a 2nd rounder in 2009.  I forgot which option the Isles chose.  Time will tell if those 2nd and 3rd rounders were indeed &#8220;throw away&#8221; picks they sacrificed at the expense of a high-end blueliner prospect, or if they actually blossom into complimentary pieces for their ultimate draft selection of Josh Bailey at #9.   Who I thought was an appropriate selection for pick #9 in the draft.  Would I have picked Josh Bailey at #5?  No.  I believed that thennnn, as I still believe it now.  (And I&#8217;m still inclined to believe that defense wins championships in hockey, even in the &#8220;new&#8221; NHL.  Even though there&#8217;s evidence that points to the contrary.)</p>
<p>It makes me think, though, if Kane really is <strong> the best possible pick at #4, </strong> why trade it?   Make the pick.  Brian Burke also said, &#8220;My scouts earn their pay in June.  They worked all year for it.&#8221;  Well, I don&#8217;t doubt, for one split second, that even Atlanta&#8217;s scouts have done more evaluating of this year&#8217;s draft class than we (bloggers) have.  </p>
<p>I checked with Rawhide, this blog DOESN&#8217;T have a travel budget for scouting.  So, I would hope &#8230; ESPECIALLY with the addition of Dudley, that their homework is complete.  If it&#8217;s really Kane &#8230; who is the best selection, and a MISTAKE NOT TO SELECT HIM, then that&#8217;s what they&#8217;ll do, I plead.   I can&#8217;t tell you that Kane is the best choice.  I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s that cut and dry.  He &#8216;may&#8217; be.  I don&#8217;t know that.  But THOSE SCOUTS should.  <strong>They get PAID to know.</strong></p>
<p><strong> PJ??  Are you up in this house??  Can you craft a Draft Day prayer for the Thrashers?</strong>  I ask PJ, because if the PRAYER is left up to me, it&#8217;d sound something like this.  &#8220;Dear God.  Please don&#8217;t let us (bleep) it up.  Amen.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Tomas Kaberle for the 6th pick AND Ed Jovonovski?!&lt;/i&gt;

Brian Burke must be a regular poster on the HFboards trade forum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Tomas Kaberle for the 6th pick AND Ed Jovonovski?!</i></p>
<p>Brian Burke must be a regular poster on the HFboards trade forum.</p>
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		<title>By: R. Stroz</title>
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		<dc:creator>R. Stroz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob &amp; Sara agreed on something.  It must be cold somewhere special.</description>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d take Gionta in a heartbeat, but Brendan&#039;s right, so meh.

&quot;and play Thrash at kids functions&quot;
ha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d take Gionta in a heartbeat, but Brendan&#8217;s right, so meh.</p>
<p>&#8220;and play Thrash at kids functions&#8221;<br />
ha!</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d take Gionta over Sterling. He can play bigger than he is, he&#039;ll crash the net (concept!) and he&#039;s put up over 50 pts in the last 3 out of 4 seasons on NJ of all teams. He&#039;s also a natural RW, versus Sterling who isn&#039;t. And Sterling isn&#039;t a proven commodity. While I&#039;d like to see this team get bigger and grittier, in terms of facing the reality of beggars can&#039;t be choosers, if Gionta is willing to come here, I&#039;d be more than happy to have him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d take Gionta over Sterling. He can play bigger than he is, he&#8217;ll crash the net (concept!) and he&#8217;s put up over 50 pts in the last 3 out of 4 seasons on NJ of all teams. He&#8217;s also a natural RW, versus Sterling who isn&#8217;t. And Sterling isn&#8217;t a proven commodity. While I&#8217;d like to see this team get bigger and grittier, in terms of facing the reality of beggars can&#8217;t be choosers, if Gionta is willing to come here, I&#8217;d be more than happy to have him.</p>
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