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	<title>Comments on: Thrashers Do Right…Bring In Dudley</title>
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		<title>By: World Be Free</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/2009/06/18/thrashers-do-right%e2%80%a6bring-in-dudley/comment-page-3/#comment-5035</link>
		<dc:creator>World Be Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ranallo-I totally agree.  A good group here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ranallo-I totally agree.  A good group here.</p>
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		<title>By: World Be Free</title>
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		<dc:creator>World Be Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, we all ran out of breathe after awhile.
Aud was a great place to watch hockey.  Old, but real clean with great sight lines.  Wish I could say the Boston Garden was the same, but it was not!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, we all ran out of breathe after awhile.<br />
Aud was a great place to watch hockey.  Old, but real clean with great sight lines.  Wish I could say the Boston Garden was the same, but it was not!</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That must have been incredible, World Be Free.  What was the chant inside the Aud?:  &quot;11, 12, 13, 14, we want 15!!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That must have been incredible, World Be Free.  What was the chant inside the Aud?:  &#8220;11, 12, 13, 14, we want 15!!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: World Be Free</title>
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		<dc:creator>World Be Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, if am the Thrashers, I don&#039;t give up any prospects, not even a medium round pick.  If you take on overpriced salary from a team like NY Rangers or Philly, you are doing them a favor.  You are allowing them to target a UFA that they might not have been able to sign if say, Philly still ahd Briere.  That&#039;s why Philly is rumored to be offering Briere and van Remsydk to entice teams to take Briere&#039;s horrible contract off therir hands.  Philly wants Bouwmeester, other teams want a crack at the Sedins.  Most of these teams are already at the cap.  The next few weeks should be very interesting.

Brendan, I was at the 14-2 game against Washington-I stood for the game in standing room, which was at the top of the balcony in the old Aud.  

You only have to go back to Punch Imlach, if you wonder why Toronto and Buffalo don&#039;t get along.  The Leafs fired Punch after he lead the Leafs to a bunch of Stanley Cups.  Punch came to Buffalo and built the Sabres using some old Leafs like Dick Duff, Donny Marshall and later, Tim Horton.  A few weeks into their first season , the Sabres went into Toronto and beat the Leafs 7-3. Duff and Marshall both scored goals, Punch was pretty happy.  He rubbed it right back in Stanford Smythe&#039;s face.  The LEafs haven&#039;t smelled the Cup since.   

Old time hockey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, if am the Thrashers, I don&#8217;t give up any prospects, not even a medium round pick.  If you take on overpriced salary from a team like NY Rangers or Philly, you are doing them a favor.  You are allowing them to target a UFA that they might not have been able to sign if say, Philly still ahd Briere.  That&#8217;s why Philly is rumored to be offering Briere and van Remsydk to entice teams to take Briere&#8217;s horrible contract off therir hands.  Philly wants Bouwmeester, other teams want a crack at the Sedins.  Most of these teams are already at the cap.  The next few weeks should be very interesting.</p>
<p>Brendan, I was at the 14-2 game against Washington-I stood for the game in standing room, which was at the top of the balcony in the old Aud.  </p>
<p>You only have to go back to Punch Imlach, if you wonder why Toronto and Buffalo don&#8217;t get along.  The Leafs fired Punch after he lead the Leafs to a bunch of Stanley Cups.  Punch came to Buffalo and built the Sabres using some old Leafs like Dick Duff, Donny Marshall and later, Tim Horton.  A few weeks into their first season , the Sabres went into Toronto and beat the Leafs 7-3. Duff and Marshall both scored goals, Punch was pretty happy.  He rubbed it right back in Stanford Smythe&#8217;s face.  The LEafs haven&#8217;t smelled the Cup since.   </p>
<p>Old time hockey</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Believe it or not, I have a hockey card of Floyd Smith.  I think it was a Topps card, from 1971 or 1972.  George &quot;Punch&quot; Imlach deserved a lot of credit for that Sabre team in the 70&#039;s.  Very well constructed.  It&#039;s really a shame that the Sabres, of that era, didn&#039;t win a Cup.  If Atlanta ever assembled a team like that, Philips Arena would be soldout most nights.  When a team has two (2) 50-goal scorers, two (2) 40-goal scored, and 3-5 players who net around 30 goals apiece, it&#039;s a very potent offense. The Sabres, of that era, wouldn&#039;t hesitate to run up the score to a 10-spot.  They once beat the Washington Capitals, 14-2.  It wasn&#039;t entirely uncommon for the French Connection line to have Perreault get two goals, Robert two goals, and Martin a hat trick.  The Sabres were a threat to score double-digit goals in that wide-open style of play era.  I remember Buffalo went into Cleveland and beat the Barons, 13-3.  Even on the road, Buffalo could light it up, back then.

Pondscum, Smitty, and World Be Free, I definitely think that if the Thrashers make any moves in free agency, it will be the Tier II variety.  If a Tier I player is added, my guess is ... it will be via trade.  But unfortunately, it&#039;ll probably be some salary dump by the trading team.  Which makes me nervous.  The other team grabs a prospect, like sayyy, PAVELEC, and we get a &quot;Briere/Gomez/Redden&quot; type.   I&#039;d rather keep Pavelec, even if his agent is &quot;whiny.&quot;  

Truthfully, I&#039;d be far happier if the Thrashers just &quot;handled its business&quot; with the personnel they&#039;ve got.  Proactively, they can approach Bryan Little and Ondrej Pavelec, on the RFA side.  On the proactive UFA side, there&#039;s obviously Kovalchuk, but there&#039;s also Kozlov.  A one-year proactive deal with Kozzie might not be bad.  Then there&#039;s the other pending RFA&#039;s, like Slater, Armstrong, Lehtonen and Valabik.  And category VI guys, too, like Crabb and Oysterick.  

Question:  If you were a team looking to make a salary dump to Atlanta, what prospect would you ask for?   My guesses are Pavelec, Oysterick, B. Sterling and Valabik.   Keep in mind, the other team&#039;s goal is primarily just to shed salary.  They&#039;re not going to especially be picky about the return.  In this regard, could someone like Valabik be part of a package?  I know all the speculation is Pavelec or Lehtonen, just b/c Waddell hinted that a goalie might be traded.  But Valabik is a former 1st rounder.  In theory, that&#039;s supposed to bring a higher caliber &quot;salary dump&quot; player to Atlanta.   For example, which of these overpaid players would you want more:  Briere, Gomez, B. Richards, S. Horcoff, C. Drury, B. Campbell, W. Redden, D. Penner, J. Finger?   Isn&#039;t there a bit of a pecking order there, in terms of just how badly overpaid the player might be? 

My fear, previously dodged successfully, was that Atlanta would go chase Wade Redden and pay him $6.5 million or more.  Instead, we wound up with Ron Hainsey.  Well, that nightmare returns if Redden winds up here, while Valabik goes elsewhere.   See what I mean?   

Unfortunately, &quot;stupid is as stupid does.&quot;  I&#039;ve always said it, &quot;in an era of salary cap, decision-making is magnified.  It&#039;s difficult to overcome bad decisions.&quot;


Happy Father&#039;s Day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe it or not, I have a hockey card of Floyd Smith.  I think it was a Topps card, from 1971 or 1972.  George &#8220;Punch&#8221; Imlach deserved a lot of credit for that Sabre team in the 70&#8217;s.  Very well constructed.  It&#8217;s really a shame that the Sabres, of that era, didn&#8217;t win a Cup.  If Atlanta ever assembled a team like that, Philips Arena would be soldout most nights.  When a team has two (2) 50-goal scorers, two (2) 40-goal scored, and 3-5 players who net around 30 goals apiece, it&#8217;s a very potent offense. The Sabres, of that era, wouldn&#8217;t hesitate to run up the score to a 10-spot.  They once beat the Washington Capitals, 14-2.  It wasn&#8217;t entirely uncommon for the French Connection line to have Perreault get two goals, Robert two goals, and Martin a hat trick.  The Sabres were a threat to score double-digit goals in that wide-open style of play era.  I remember Buffalo went into Cleveland and beat the Barons, 13-3.  Even on the road, Buffalo could light it up, back then.</p>
<p>Pondscum, Smitty, and World Be Free, I definitely think that if the Thrashers make any moves in free agency, it will be the Tier II variety.  If a Tier I player is added, my guess is &#8230; it will be via trade.  But unfortunately, it&#8217;ll probably be some salary dump by the trading team.  Which makes me nervous.  The other team grabs a prospect, like sayyy, PAVELEC, and we get a &#8220;Briere/Gomez/Redden&#8221; type.   I&#8217;d rather keep Pavelec, even if his agent is &#8220;whiny.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Truthfully, I&#8217;d be far happier if the Thrashers just &#8220;handled its business&#8221; with the personnel they&#8217;ve got.  Proactively, they can approach Bryan Little and Ondrej Pavelec, on the RFA side.  On the proactive UFA side, there&#8217;s obviously Kovalchuk, but there&#8217;s also Kozlov.  A one-year proactive deal with Kozzie might not be bad.  Then there&#8217;s the other pending RFA&#8217;s, like Slater, Armstrong, Lehtonen and Valabik.  And category VI guys, too, like Crabb and Oysterick.  </p>
<p>Question:  If you were a team looking to make a salary dump to Atlanta, what prospect would you ask for?   My guesses are Pavelec, Oysterick, B. Sterling and Valabik.   Keep in mind, the other team&#8217;s goal is primarily just to shed salary.  They&#8217;re not going to especially be picky about the return.  In this regard, could someone like Valabik be part of a package?  I know all the speculation is Pavelec or Lehtonen, just b/c Waddell hinted that a goalie might be traded.  But Valabik is a former 1st rounder.  In theory, that&#8217;s supposed to bring a higher caliber &#8220;salary dump&#8221; player to Atlanta.   For example, which of these overpaid players would you want more:  Briere, Gomez, B. Richards, S. Horcoff, C. Drury, B. Campbell, W. Redden, D. Penner, J. Finger?   Isn&#8217;t there a bit of a pecking order there, in terms of just how badly overpaid the player might be? </p>
<p>My fear, previously dodged successfully, was that Atlanta would go chase Wade Redden and pay him $6.5 million or more.  Instead, we wound up with Ron Hainsey.  Well, that nightmare returns if Redden winds up here, while Valabik goes elsewhere.   See what I mean?   </p>
<p>Unfortunately, &#8220;stupid is as stupid does.&#8221;  I&#8217;ve always said it, &#8220;in an era of salary cap, decision-making is magnified.  It&#8217;s difficult to overcome bad decisions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Happy Father&#8217;s Day!</p>
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		<title>By: World Be Free</title>
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		<dc:creator>World Be Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smitty, Brendan, Floyd Smith was also the Sabres&#039; first captain.  My first Sabres game was against the California Golden Seals-Smitty scored the game-winner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smitty, Brendan, Floyd Smith was also the Sabres&#8217; first captain.  My first Sabres game was against the California Golden Seals-Smitty scored the game-winner.</p>
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		<title>By: pond scum</title>
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		<dc:creator>pond scum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too would like to say to all my fellow dads-&quot;Happy Fathers Day!!&quot;

Very good points Brendan! But you know some will say when Kovy resigns that we gave him to much. Oh well.

And I&#039;d LOVE to see Scuderi in a Thrashers uniform,very underrated defender who&#039;d look good beside Bogo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too would like to say to all my fellow dads-&#8221;Happy Fathers Day!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Very good points Brendan! But you know some will say when Kovy resigns that we gave him to much. Oh well.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;d LOVE to see Scuderi in a Thrashers uniform,very underrated defender who&#8217;d look good beside Bogo.</p>
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		<title>By: Smitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendan,     Floyd Smith coached that 74-75 Sabre team.  If the Thrashers start playing the type of hockey that the Canadiens and Sabres played in the mid 70&#039;s with the same results, tickets will be hard to come by.  Downtown bars and restaurants will be packed before and after games.  There I go hoping again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendan,     Floyd Smith coached that 74-75 Sabre team.  If the Thrashers start playing the type of hockey that the Canadiens and Sabres played in the mid 70&#8217;s with the same results, tickets will be hard to come by.  Downtown bars and restaurants will be packed before and after games.  There I go hoping again.</p>
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		<title>By: World Be Free</title>
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		<dc:creator>World Be Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendan, your assessment of Brian Campbell and a host of other free agents is right on.  This is the fear that I have on July 1; that we will become another team that overpays for a player.  

I look past tier 1 free agents to tier 2, guys like Antropov, Gill and Scuderi.  

ESPN has us announcing Dudley’s addition tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendan, your assessment of Brian Campbell and a host of other free agents is right on.  This is the fear that I have on July 1; that we will become another team that overpays for a player.  </p>
<p>I look past tier 1 free agents to tier 2, guys like Antropov, Gill and Scuderi.  </p>
<p>ESPN has us announcing Dudley’s addition tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: World Be Free</title>
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		<dc:creator>World Be Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, Happy Father&#039;s Day to all

Hokie-Sabres and Rochester were together since 1979.  The Sabres actually owned the Americans for several season.  They sold the Amerks to a Rochester-based group a few years ago.  From there, the team went downhill financially, so bad that when Sabres ownership looked to buy the team back 2 years ago they had to walk away.  So the decision to break the Buffalo/Rochester’ relationship was actually Rochester’s.  They decided to bring in Florida a few years ago, to Buffalo’s disappointment.

I am glad to have Cunneyworth with the Thrashers.  We have a very underrated coaching staff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, Happy Father&#8217;s Day to all</p>
<p>Hokie-Sabres and Rochester were together since 1979.  The Sabres actually owned the Americans for several season.  They sold the Amerks to a Rochester-based group a few years ago.  From there, the team went downhill financially, so bad that when Sabres ownership looked to buy the team back 2 years ago they had to walk away.  So the decision to break the Buffalo/Rochester’ relationship was actually Rochester’s.  They decided to bring in Florida a few years ago, to Buffalo’s disappointment.</p>
<p>I am glad to have Cunneyworth with the Thrashers.  We have a very underrated coaching staff.</p>
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