Comments on: Open The Door And Let In A Draft http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/2009/06/15/open-the-door-and-let-in-a-draft/ A fan’s perspective on the Atlanta Thrashers, with a dose of humor and a hint of irreverence Mon, 06 Jun 2011 14:25:09 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: SHOULDA GOT DUNN http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/2009/06/15/open-the-door-and-let-in-a-draft/comment-page-3/#comment-4695 SHOULDA GOT DUNN Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:37:41 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/?p=2562#comment-4695 look who decided to show up on the ol braves blog... i was wondering where he has been... stendec June 17th, 2009 11:59 pm These Braves are nothing but heartless quitters! Losers who are an embarrassment to themselves and an affront to the fabulous teams of the past. How they can cash their paychecks is totally beyond me. It is obvious they do not give a damn! Oxygen waste commode residue. Completely worthless! look who decided to show up on the ol braves blog… i was wondering where he has been…

stendec

June 17th, 2009
11:59 pm
These Braves are nothing but heartless quitters! Losers who are an embarrassment to themselves and an affront to the fabulous teams of the past. How they can cash their paychecks is totally beyond me. It is obvious they do not give a damn! Oxygen waste commode residue. Completely worthless!

]]> By: Sadtoseeitthisway http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/2009/06/15/open-the-door-and-let-in-a-draft/comment-page-3/#comment-4661 Sadtoseeitthisway Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:38:13 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/?p=2562#comment-4661 For all of you saying DW should trade his second round picks? Who ever made the team, or made any contribution being drafted in the second round by DW? The guess here is he picks players for "signability" rather who`s best after the first round. Some of the later round picks have never been seen or heard from. Yes, Exelby and Enstrom came from the lower rounds, but that had to be a fluke. Making the sixth or seventh round pick ought to be a throw in for someone who`s about to commit to a season ticket purchase. For all of you saying DW should trade his second round picks? Who ever made the team, or made any contribution being drafted in the second round by DW? The guess here is he picks players for “signability” rather who`s best after the first round. Some of the later round picks have never been seen or heard from. Yes, Exelby and Enstrom came from the lower rounds, but that had to be a fluke. Making the sixth or seventh round pick ought to be a throw in for someone who`s about to commit to a season ticket purchase.

]]> By: World Be Free http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/2009/06/15/open-the-door-and-let-in-a-draft/comment-page-3/#comment-4644 World Be Free Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:50:40 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/?p=2562#comment-4644 I have seen a scouting chart that actually moves Ryan Ellis into the #3 spot ahead of Duchene and Kane. No explanation gien for the move, but that would make it very interesting for the Thrashers when they draft at #4. I am not much for moving down when you are drafting so high. Scottie Upshaw might be a nice addition, but I would not take a chance at moving at #4. I have seen a scouting chart that actually moves Ryan Ellis into the #3 spot ahead of Duchene and Kane. No explanation gien for the move, but that would make it very interesting for the Thrashers when they draft at #4.

I am not much for moving down when you are drafting so high. Scottie Upshaw might be a nice addition, but I would not take a chance at moving at #4.

]]> By: World Be Free http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/2009/06/15/open-the-door-and-let-in-a-draft/comment-page-3/#comment-4624 World Be Free Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:05:19 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/?p=2562#comment-4624 Spud, you are correct. Cap-stressed teams are looking to dump their ineffective players with huge salaries (like Briere) on teams that have cap space AND need to improve quickly. That's where the fleecing that may occur. GMs need to resist the temptation of going for the potential quick fix, with the burden of the long-term commitment. On that note, I think Ottawa is going to have a tough time getting value return for Heatley. His repuation, contract (including the $4M roster bonus due 7/1) and baggage may not make him attractive to too many teams. LA and St. Louis have the most to gain and the most to offer in the way of promising young talent. However, neither club may be on Princess Dany's preferred list of teams. I don't believe I am saying this, but I'd take Hossa over Heatley, mostly because signing Hossa won't cost us anything after 7.1. Spud, you are correct. Cap-stressed teams are looking to dump their ineffective players with huge salaries (like Briere) on teams that have cap space AND need to improve quickly. That’s where the fleecing that may occur. GMs need to resist the temptation of going for the potential quick fix, with the burden of the long-term commitment.

On that note, I think Ottawa is going to have a tough time getting value return for Heatley. His repuation, contract (including the $4M roster bonus due 7/1) and baggage may not make him attractive to too many teams. LA and St. Louis have the most to gain and the most to offer in the way of promising young talent. However, neither club may be on Princess Dany’s preferred list of teams.

I don’t believe I am saying this, but I’d take Hossa over Heatley, mostly because signing Hossa won’t cost us anything after 7.1.

]]> By: Spud Webb http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/2009/06/15/open-the-door-and-let-in-a-draft/comment-page-3/#comment-4608 Spud Webb Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:14:55 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/?p=2562#comment-4608 World and LAC, I hope Max doesn't come here. He CAN be super exciting, but World you said it, the guy is a TURNOVER machine. Yes, the Thrashers could get him very, very, very cheap. But lets face it, we don't have the D at this point capable of helping with his turnovers, heck, I don't know any team that has the D. Max has seemed un-willing to back check! He is one of the worst 2 "way" players in the league. I would stay away from Max. Not to mention he's an injury waiting to happen. The man has oooodles of talent, but has yet to "get it". Can't help to think that some GM (philly??) is sitting there thinking "how can we fleece DW and the thrashers, we know he's going to bumble something up, maybe we can get in there and steal some talent?!?" I hate to be that negative, but I honestly think things like that. World and LAC, I hope Max doesn’t come here. He CAN be super exciting, but World you said it, the guy is a TURNOVER machine. Yes, the Thrashers could get him very, very, very cheap. But lets face it, we don’t have the D at this point capable of helping with his turnovers, heck, I don’t know any team that has the D. Max has seemed un-willing to back check! He is one of the worst 2 “way” players in the league. I would stay away from Max. Not to mention he’s an injury waiting to happen. The man has oooodles of talent, but has yet to “get it”.
Can’t help to think that some GM (philly??) is sitting there thinking “how can we fleece DW and the thrashers, we know he’s going to bumble something up, maybe we can get in there and steal some talent?!?” I hate to be that negative, but I honestly think things like that.

]]> By: ranallo10 (in AT) http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/2009/06/15/open-the-door-and-let-in-a-draft/comment-page-3/#comment-4594 ranallo10 (in AT) Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:06:28 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/?p=2562#comment-4594 Monsieur Strap is a funny lad. Monsieur Strap is a funny lad.

]]> By: GaVaHokie http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/2009/06/15/open-the-door-and-let-in-a-draft/comment-page-3/#comment-4592 GaVaHokie Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:21:09 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/?p=2562#comment-4592 Kozlov's dogs like it here too. ;) Having an International Airport doesn't hurt either, for anyone on the team that needs to get back to Russia or Europe at a moments notice... not exactly a selling point, but a perk nonetheless. Kozlov’s dogs like it here too. ;)

Having an International Airport doesn’t hurt either, for anyone on the team that needs to get back to Russia or Europe at a moments notice… not exactly a selling point, but a perk nonetheless.

]]> By: GaVaHokie http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/2009/06/15/open-the-door-and-let-in-a-draft/comment-page-3/#comment-4588 GaVaHokie Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:13:15 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/?p=2562#comment-4588 <em>“It rhymes with…Cindy Crosby” CLASSIC</em> Agreed... I meant to reply to that earlier. :) “It rhymes with…Cindy Crosby”

CLASSIC

Agreed… I meant to reply to that earlier. :)

]]> By: Ogie Ogelthorpe http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/2009/06/15/open-the-door-and-let-in-a-draft/comment-page-3/#comment-4586 Ogie Ogelthorpe Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:59:22 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/?p=2562#comment-4586 Sara-always good to have a woman's perspective. We guys often don't take that into consideration. Sara-always good to have a woman’s perspective. We guys often don’t take that into consideration.

]]> By: Sara http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/2009/06/15/open-the-door-and-let-in-a-draft/comment-page-3/#comment-4585 Sara Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:23:38 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/iceman-thrashers-blog/?p=2562#comment-4585 <strong>Glovesave</strong> never underestimate the power of the wives. ;) Atlanta is a great place to raise a family (Kozlov has been very open about the fact that this is why he has stayed here all these years). For a single guy like Hossa, the career and the hockey organization itself is the only factor that matters. For players with families, there are other considerations to take into account and depending on how much of a priority their family happiness is, that can weigh in our favor. Frankly I think that's one reason why we've attracted so many older players over the years. Glovesave never underestimate the power of the wives. ;) Atlanta is a great place to raise a family (Kozlov has been very open about the fact that this is why he has stayed here all these years). For a single guy like Hossa, the career and the hockey organization itself is the only factor that matters. For players with families, there are other considerations to take into account and depending on how much of a priority their family happiness is, that can weigh in our favor. Frankly I think that’s one reason why we’ve attracted so many older players over the years.

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