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My wife and I were self employed for twenty five years till she got cancer and couldn’t work. She was the creative force in our art business, and thus I am back looking for work. Of course now I have a twenty five year gap in my accounting experience. My accounting degree seems obsolete and I cant even get an interview. I cant even get temp work as a bookkeeper because I didn’t learn Quicken, Excel or any modern computer accounting techniques. I’m broke, ruined and watching my wife deteriorate daily by inches. Foreclosure, bankruptcy, and probably jail are only days away. My newest suit is exactly nine years old. The only tie I own is a Jerry Garcia tie my wife got me for xmas in 1994. I need a haircut, I look older than my 57 years, and I have zero people skills or interviewing aplomb because I’ve been so isolated doing artwork in my garage all these years. We used to sell hundreds of paintings every year. There was no need for a Plan B. That’s why I didn’t pursue my masters or CPA or my computer skills. I guess HR training probably never prepared you for hopeless cases like mine, but thanks for trying.
I’ve been trying to get a position within Human Resources for some time now.I have three years working in Human Resources as a temp (in payroll and doing administrative tasks like setting up interviews,admin. testing, entering new applicant info.), and my other experience includes roughly seven years of admin. work and customer service. I graduate in Feb. 09 with my Bachelor’s degree, my major being Human Resources Management.I’m just wondering how in the world can I “get my foot in the door” because every where I look the employer wants more experience than I have. I really would love to work in the areas of training and development or recruiting. I appreciate any advice you can give me.
I will be retireing from the Navy in a few months and I wondering with all of the online job searching I am doing, how important is it to have a unique cover letter for each job application?
RK:
I took a brief survey of some of my recruiter friends and we all agreed that the cover letter is not very important with the initial application if you are just applying to an ad. However, if you are sending your resume to a particular individual (the better way to do so) then a cover letter can be very important.
I understand where you are coming from. I was a stay at home mother for ten years so I had a ten year gap. My recommendation would be to recruit all of your friends, even the ones you haven’t spoken with in a while and tell them items that you need. If you have a friend who can give your hair a trim, call them. If you have a friend that is close to your size, ask them to borrow a suit. Exhaust your posiblities. This is what I did until I got on my feet. Hope this helps.
Pamela
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After 3 years as a manager and 5 years total with a rental car company, I followed my wife and kids to Atlanta where her job relocated us with her promotion. That was almost a year ago! After applying for several postions in the Atlanta Market and not wanting to sell copiers or financial services I am lost. The hardest thing is findin a career that paid and gave me the joy my last career gave me. After 12 or so interviews as a sales manager or as an account executive I have been given feedback that they prefer some one with industry experience vs. my skill set. I have been offered various entry level positions that pay not even a third of what I was making. Where do I look for a career in this market.
Back injury curtailed a future as an airplane mechanic. Bookkeeping was suggested, and night classes was next step. One of the first opportunities led to a position normally filled by females (employer’s choice), but was hired because the hirelings would not stay, due to the
location and unpleasant (to a female)venue. So, opportunity can and does play a part in job-hunting,
I recently relocated to the metro Atlanta area from Houston and was wondering if there is an HR Rountable group that meets for the purpose of networking? We had one in Houston where HR professionals would meet once a month, usually had a speaker and had an opportunity to network. Is there anything like that other than SHRM meetings?
I was laid off from a Medical billing/collections position in May 08 after 10 years of service. (Company sold) At the same time I relocated to an area that I am not familiar with, nor do I really know anyone, and I am having a difficult time trying to find a position within the medical industry. There are jobs available but the going trend here is knowing someone within that company. I am really at a loss, I have the qualifications for the jobs but I cannot seem to even get a call back to inquire about my resume. The Job ads are next to none since everything is word of mouth, so I really don’t know what my next move should be. Any thoughts?
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I relocated to the Atlanta area six months ago due to a transfer my husband had to make. I was employed as an HR Coordinator at the corporate headquarters of a large company in Dallas, TX, and have yet to find work here in Atlanta. I am a hard worker, smart and reliable. I know if I could just get an interview or two I might be able to find something, but haven’t even gotten that far in the process. Help!
Half the staff twice the work. I think this is the common fear for many employees that “survive” layoffs. Many companies are cutting in every department leaving them depleted and grasping for air. I think more now than ever companies need to look at outsourcing as a cost cutting maneuver that leaves employees still feeling a bit of love. Consider using HR Outsourcing to cut the bottom line while maintaining a outlet for the remaining employees to deal with HR related claims such benefits and such. Keeping your remaining employees happy is essential to staying the course.
Here are what some of our HR and employments experts have had to say, they seem to think that right now, networking is the key, so even though you are new in the area, it may be wise to become involved in local groups to rebuild a professional network so that you can have another avenue for job leads:
I have job presently, but I don’t like it. I am very thankful to have a job, but do I stay with my job and be miserable or do I try and find something else. Where do I draw the line. Thanks.
Duchess:
Right now I would stay with the job and try to figure out what you don’t like about it and see if you can fix it. But, nothing bars you from looking for a job while you have a job. In fact, that is actually the best situation. Just try to do it on your own time. Otherwise you may find yourself on the outside looking in and now is not a good time to be doing that.
With today’s high unemployment rate, how long would a person be unemployed before he/she is asked during an interview why he/she has been out of work for so long?
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I have increased online social networking activities. I also participate in group meetings which have yieleded job leads and charity work opportunities.
Getting in front of people who know people who are hiring is the key to finding employment sooner.
It is also a great time to evaluate a home based business. This solution offers a chance to earn income while you determine your next career move.
You are right, there are many obstacles that stand in the way of older workers getting the job. And some of what you are saying is so important, especially keeping up with job skills and technology. Knowing how to network and use a computer is a must in today’s job market.
But as far as what you look like, where do you draw the line? What’s next, plastic surgery, botox, hair dye… and what does it have to do with your job skills? Yes, being clean and well groomed is important for your interview at any age, but whether I wear my hair in a bun or I have it cut in a funky new style will not make one bit of difference in my job performance.
When I lived in New York I used to go to a doctor who was in his 70s and wore polyester pants suits from the 1960s. I went there because he was a good, compassionate and educated doctor. It did not matter what he looked like, he knew his job and he did it well.
And as far as weight, that is a completely different area of discrimination, and that is absolutely not a criteria of job performance, unless your job is such that you could not do it due to your weight.
And what does energy mean? Quite frankly that cuts across the age barrier. I have been involved with some young people who are more likely to want to relax and take breaks on the job than some of the older people I know. Energy is an individual issue.
I am tired of the blame for ageism being placed on the individual who is being discriminated against. The blame of any kind of discrimination comes from the ignorance of the discriminators.
Corporations, recruiters and human resources departments need to be educated in what to look for to find a good employee. They need to get over the insipient stereotypes that that are perpetuated day in and day out by well meaning individuals who say it is all our fault.
You are already setting up a stereotype in your article by assuming old people do not have energy, do not have good hair cuts and don’t know how to act. That is an outrage. Most of us have been in the workforce for years, have kept up with culture, trends and technology. I find it insulting to assume otherwise.
The reason we are discriminated against is not because of who we are, but because our society does not value age and experience. Part of that was started by us, the very individuals who are now feeling its sting. Remember “Never trust anyone over thirty”?
What is needed is awareness and education and more intergenerational experiences where we can all learn the value that we all have to offer.
I made a movie about age discrimination issues in the workforce. It presents all these points, and has well meaning job councilors and coaches saying exactly what you are saying here, but if you listen to the words of the individuals who are affected by age discrimination you will understand it from a whole other perspective.
I’m sorry, but I think this praise of the City of Atlanta is ridiculous. Some of those critical employees with that critical talent are the Police Officers of the City but not once have they been given their fair share of raises. One of the obvious ways for the city to save money is to give officers raises so they don’t leave. Instead, these officers aren’t given raises for nearly 6 years, they’ve just been furloughed so their pay has been CUT, which has caused many of them to leave the department for better opportunities in the surrounding areas. Wouldn’t it make much more sense to keep these officers happy rather than spending even more money on recruiting new officers who will then have to be trained for years to meet the level of the officers they’re replacing? As HR professionals we all know, and continuously preach, that its much cheaper to keep your current employees happy than to have to find and mold new ones!
Ageism is alive and well. And the current job market is looking for deep skills in narrow areas. I went to a job seekers seminar last week and one marketing person was concerned about a very tiny sideways step and how to sell her skills as appropriate in a slightly different industry. Talk about pigeon-holing! I thought we were beyond the age of ultra-specialization spawned by Henry Ford nearly a century ago.
One result of this organization style that I see often is a failure to coordinate efforts around one goal long enough to make it to the end. We older workers are more integrated, have broader experience, and can spot that kind of failure in a heartbeat. We also have a variety of experience in multiple areas making us ideal integrators of effort and spotters of holes that spell failure. We can also anticipate unintended consequences more effectively, having lived through many. I would feel better about our economy if I saw more gray heads in the administration.
Why are people always looking for a reason to not like a person first. That is what brings out all harrassment
on jobs, schools and all other places. If a person cannot find a job, there is going to be gaps in their employment.
Their are some highly learned persons with bad hand writing. I used learned because going to school and
learning is not the same thing.
Patricia:
I used the “stereotypes” I did, not out of prejudice, but out of recognition of them in friends and collegues, many of whom are out looking for work. At the same time I will say that I have many other friends well over 40 (as I am well over 40) who are models of energy, organization and are well aware of social trends. However, this does not negate the fact the prejudice exists, right or wrong, and the more you can do to lesson the effect on you the better off you are.
Most over 40 job seekers are not interested in being social crusaders, they want a job. Given that I have had personal comments from some friends, that I directed to this blog post, that indicate they found the advice useful I hope there is some practical pointers in amoungst the stereotypes.
I am in the process of relocating to the Atlanta area with my wife who will be working in Atlanta. I appreciate these comments as I believe they will assist me in my new job search. The comments also show that the city cares. Thank you…
To piggyback on Mr. Jerome Fannin’s comment: Thanks for echoeing my sentiment! You are so on target! If you can’t seem to find a job (like I haven’t been able to in 6 months now) then, of course you are going to have gaps. It is even hard to find volunteer opportunities because everyone is turning to the same “rescue techniques” job fairs and volunteering to seal gaps. This thing has to end soon because we are all in the same boat – Trying to keep from sinking!!
We’re taking a week’s vacation next week, but we will be hanging out in Atlanta and hiking nearby. Originally, we planned for a week in NC, but decided we didn’t want to spend the money – probably $1,000 – on hotels, food, etc. when we could hike just as easily near home. I just want to get my credit card paid off by the end of the year. If we can do that, we are going to go to London.
I have accumulated 4 weeks of vacation time, and trust me I take all four weeks. I earned it, I take it.
There is so many activities that are free right here in our own back yard.
I myself am going to Hilton Head in May. A friend owns a house (free rent), and there are about 6 of us going ($20 gas round trip, $50 for food/alcohol) for 5 days. There is a pool at the house, and a short walk to a private beach. I plan on camping on the beach, with my cooler and lounge chair and several good books…….Hilton Head for less than $100/pp…..I don’t need any souvieners, or fancy restaurants. We are all pitching in and cooking at the house.
Visit our beautiful Georgia State Parks! That’s the best way to help keep them open, and a great way to spend family time. You can see all of them at http://www.gastateparks.org. For even deeper savings, become a Friend of the parks at http://www.friendsofgastateparks.org. Get Out, Get Dirty, Get Fit!
I’m planning a trip with a group of friends. We’re still brainstorming on a destination, but one thing is certain, we’re going somewhere! Everyone needs to press the reset button at least twice per year.
I just took a short vtrip to Houston for two interviews, but it was also my birthday that weekend. I feel so much better than I did before, it was so nice to get away! It is crucial to take a vacation or else you will crash!
I happen to think vacations are a NECESSITY even if you don’t go out of town and just hang around the house/own town. Not taking time off is foolish. But I am guessing it impresses the corporate types. So glad to be self-employed!
I just returned from a week in Orlando. The relaxation was much needed…I was on overload. A week away from work has allowed me to recharge and place things in perspective. The smiles on my wife and daughter face at Disney/Seaworld are immeasurable. It was worth every $$$. Too often, we buy into the culture of working hard with no play; failing to understand other areas of our lives suffer. As result our performance at home and work is not optimal.
I am new to job seeking at 50 and it is a new day; I panic when I am on line applying for jobs and I am not sure whether or not my resume made it to the employer. Not being able to speak with the employer is mind-blowing to me. However, I am convinced that when I have the opportunity to interview with the employer that I will be able to present my skills and experience in such a way that they will be certain that I am the person for the job regardless of my age. I really try not to concentrate on it because it does come across if you are self-conscious. My problem is being able to convience the employer that I am willing to accept a lower paying position than my past work history reflects. I have tried scaling it down, but it has not worked in some instances. Atlanta
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Job Fairs are the BIGGEST waste of time. Other than getting some practice presenting yourself if you’ve been out of the interviewing game for awhile, one should not expect anything significant to come out of attending a job fair. Your best bet would be to get a list of the employers that will be in attendance from the job fair website, and check out those companies’ website job postings and submit your resume accordingly, because there only going to tell you to check the site frequently, and that they’ll scan your resume into their system.
The only thing you gain from a job fair is the feeling that you’re being proactive about your current job situation. If you need practice get dressed up and go. If you’re getting interviews don’t waste the time, and gas.
Ageism is obviously a problem. I am 53 years old and have been in the job market for 2 years with no success. I notice those my age have the same problem.
Ironically, I have no gray hair, have computer skills, and have education in various areas. I must admit I am overweight but have not gotten the opportunity for any interviewer to see that, as I have only gone on one interview.
What I have been told from the human resources advisers is experience (which comes with age) is a threat to the younger generation. I would think that it would be an advantage since most aged people are looking to add to the organization instead of taking anything away. We are not looking for an exorbitant salary, we are just looking to be of enormous help and keep ourselves busy at the same time.
My experience with the post interview process so far has not been very successful. I have had several good interviews and although I ask and receive the schedule for the hiring decision and the follow-up process with each employer I am finding that the prospective employer is not following through with their commitment.
I always follow up an interview with a personal handwritten thank-you note and when the scheduled time for the decision has past I follow up with an email and/or call.
When I follow up on the perspective employer I am getting the following;
1) No response to my voice mail or messages or email
2) I am being told that if there is an interest, someone will call
3) No ability to reach the hiring manager
4) No follow up from the employer when the decision is made
Any suggestions for follow up that’s worked for others would be greatly appreciated.
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This blog rings true for many in the nonprofit community who have chosen to switch sectors from corporate/for profit to the social sector. I wanted to share for people interested in nonprofit careers that on June 16 2009 Opportunity Knocks, the national nonprofit Job Board and Career Development website owned and operated by the Georgia Center for Nonprofits, is proud to present a day of workshops and consultative sessions to help improve job and nonprofit career development strategies and job-seeking skills. Here’s a link to information on our site http://www.gcn.org
I AM CURRENTLY A BUSINESS OWNER WIYH A PARTNER. DUE TO THE RECESSION OR COMPANY SIMPLY CANNOT AFFORD TO SUPPORT EVERYONE. WE HAVE CUT BACK TO THE BARE MINIMUM ALONG WITH TAKING HEALTHY PAY CUTS. I AM READY TO EXIT BUT JUST DONT KNOW HOW TO GO FROM BUSINEE OWNER AFTER 20 PLUS YEARS TO EMPLOYEE. I FEEL I REALLY DONT HAVE MUCH TO MARKET. I KNOW AS A BUSINESS OWNER I HAVE OFTEN LOOKED DOWN ON PREVIOUS BUSINESS OWNERS WHO APPLIED FOR WORK AT MY COMPANY. MY THINKING WAS THEY THOUGHT THEY KNEW EVERYTHING OR THAT THEY HAD FAILED IN BUSINESS. ANY THOUGHTS?
Im a convicted felon and never realized how difficult supporting my family would be because of this. I took a plea deal because i was afraid of the justice system, but knowing what i know now…things would have been totally different. I think im in this situation for a purpose, because at one point i was on the other side pointing my fingers at those who chose to live above the law…..and maybe this was Gods way of helping me understand that he’s the only true judge. As for me now, Im trying to start a business working with at risk youth on how to be productive citizens and cope with todays societal problems using music……I truly hope that one day, a system could be institued where felons can be screened and decided by the work they do a few yrs after the initial conviction…Im sure that will say alot…..
Convicted felons paid their dues, and I believe that denying them employment opportunities is double jeopardy. Since we all are one mistake away from jail anyway. I think people should have compassion. What goes around comes around.
My son messed up at 17, entering an auto. At 23 he can’nt find a job. What he did was wrong but how can he change when no one will give him a second chance. If someone hired him with the potential of advancement he would be the most loyal employee. Any advice
Barb. I recommend he not mention it on his application. Some companies will only search back 5 years, some 10 years. Its just a chance your son must take.
Find the cracks in the system and Exploit exploit exploit.
I am currently in the position of being a convicted felon and there is no simple answer. I was in a situation where it really was the wrong place at the wrong time I haven’t been employed since the initial arrest even though I have a strong resume and college to back it up but there are places that will help, I can say parole or probation is not one of them it depends on your area I found a place based in Ohio called the weed and seed program who help convicts re-enter the work force, they may have a program in your area
I have had this very experience myself! In my case the employee was completely unwilling to recognize her own responsibility in the situation and not only elevated her complaint to our corporate counsel but complained about me stating that I was bias. How do you handle such an employee?!
As a long term state employee, I have been in many different work places/offices thru out my years, and what I have observed is that the work place environment is created by the Supervisor and/or Director in each office. If management is fair, reasonable, honest and open, the office environment has always been good/highly productive, but if management is poor, the entire office staff suffer. The office dynamics created by poor management is akin to being a patient in a psychiatric ward where each individual workers worst personality traits seem to come out in the attempt to make sense of something that makes no sense or has no solution. And, what I have seen is that State Management has no accountability to anyone for how staff is treated, and in general staff have little voice or credibility. Fairness in state government for the staff is a joke, and remember we are a Free Work state, which means either accept the environment or look for another job.
If the employee is in a non-merited state position, no matter how many years they have worked for the State, the employee has no voice to complain or go up the chain of command to his superiors. And, if the employee complains anyway, he/she can be fired on the spot with no recourse.
YES, I AM A CONVICTED FELON. bACK IN 2000 WHEN i WAS RELEASED FROM PRISON, PLACES LIKE McDONALDS, BURGER KING, AND WENDY”S DIDNT THINK MUCH ABOUT WHAT WAS IN YOUR PAST, SO LONG AS YOU PUT IN A GOOD DAYS WORK, SHOWED UP WHEN SCHEDULED,AND WAS COURTEOUS TO CUSTOMERS, YOU HAD A JOB. THATS WHERE I STARTED. AFTER A YEAR OF FLIPPING BURGERS I APPLIED, AND WAS HIRED AT TARGET. I HAVE BEEN EMPLOYED WITH TARGET FOR EIGHT YEARS BECAUSE I DID NOT ALLOW ANYONE TO TELL ME WHAT I WAS WORTH.KNOW YOUR OWN VALUE. I”M ALSO IN COLLEGE WITH A 3.11 GPA.THE SYSTEM INCARCERATED ME BUT I DIDNT ALLOW IT TO KEEP ME LOCKED-UP, OR FEELSORRY FOR MYSELF. BEING A FELON EMPOWERS ME TO PUT MY BEST OUT FRONT. SOON I HOPE TO OPEN MY OWN HALFWAY HOUSE FOR CONVICTED FELONS, AND BY DOING SO I HOPE TO CHANGE THE RECIDIVISM RATE OF FELONS. MY ADVICE TO ALL FELONS LOOKING FOR WORK, COME OUT OF YOUR COMFORT ZONE, START AT THE BOTTOM, WORK YOUR WAY UP. IT WANT HURT YOU TO CHANGE BOATS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OCEAN IF YOU KNOW HOW TO SWIM
how about being a bankruptcy attorney, running a liqour store, a funeral home- being a politician, or having anything to do with a business that specializes in others misfortune- for example- repo’s, collections, credit card companies, etc- Also, the next best industry would probably be sales- if you can sell you will always have a place for someone’s business- Now that was the truth- The rest of the comments above were bs-
Are these people for real? Given the present employment situation I believe that these “helpers” should be removed as they are “useless”. These people are obviously comfortable and are wallowing in ignorance.
I recently lost my job in March 09 but my partner and I had already planned for a week in orlando with the kids. I struggled with the decision of whether to go or not. My kids made straight A’s and was really looking forward to the trip. we decided to leap out on faith and go anyway. We had a blast, the kids learned a lot about the ocean and ocean creatures, we didnt eat out, we cooked in the villa and we didnt buy any souveniers. We had a blast, my kids were very happt, partner was refreshed and I just decided to enjoy even thought I didnt have a job. I’m so glad we went. Yes take a vacation!!!
Please Disregard PeeWee and Turd Ferguson; thier advice is not helpful. Exploiting loopholes can be viewed as dishonest. When filling out applications, state “will discuss at interview” in the legal history part. This way, you have the chance to be honest and open with a potential employer about what they will likely find during a background check. During the interview, focus on what you have done in your life to make sure the situation does not happen again.
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I would like to add a comment as well my son now 25 unable to get work being a felon mistake ,getting a job is impossible these days with the economy much less having a felon . The only thing I can off as advice is to get a pardon you are allowed a once in a life time pardon so if u do get one you better know your going to be straight from that point onward otherwise it all can come back on your record so that is the only thing i know to suggest unless someone has the heart to give you another chance .
i sure agree with all the comments here. i have no grey hair and i have lost 40 lbs since march. it seems like i am being kicked to the curb before i even get to the sidewalk.
good luck everyone.
Thanks Mike for keeping my list going. I agree, commitment to your work is definitely #5. I also agree that companies are relying heavy on top talent right now. So, the connection to meaningful work is so hard to do. How do you think managers and HR professionals can commuicate to employees the value of their job in the overall scheme?
I am tired of all these HR professionals with the same tired, lame advice. Call me jaded or pessimistic, but I’m sick of it. I am in a rut like so many other people and all I need is a chance. The bad part is that all over the US people blogs and sites have so-called HR professionals talking in riddles. IT IS NOT WHAT YOU KNOW, IT’S WHO YOU KNOW! Anyone living in metro Atlanta can attest to that. And this tidbit has nothing to do with class, gender, race, age, ethnicity, nationality, or sexual orientation—we simply live in a society built on what they now call, “social networkiing.” Who you know, not what you know. And to think I thought sleeping to the top would get me somewhere, honey, Please.
Patricia:
Tey the age is a problem a big problem. I have met it for over a year. And even after I was in my last job, the wife;’s boss made a comment to him ” What is this Golden Pond you are creating here?” I have heard “over qualified, the job had changed, the job is going away, we need someone with younger contacts.” Unfortunately I have been very successful with my own business and other businesses,. I am quite sharp with finding root causes and the overlooked solution to problems. Oh yes the .. “You look good on paper but..” At 61 I can hold my own in construction meet all the physical challenges. Never miss a day, be on time speak with any group of people, handle a one-on-one with statesmen and laborers. I’m computer savvy, and can sell most anyone. so why/
If you live in this world, and you want a good paying job; and you don’t know anyone you will not get that positon. I don’t care you have all the education in the world they saying young people getting all the job what that say for us older people!!!!
Or you could open a top ramen noodle manufacturing plant.The comments above are not helpful, the responses to the comments are more practical information for getting a job in this climate. Jeepers!
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Meaningful work is important to talented employees especially those who possess tacit knowledge (non-verbalized, intuitive, and unarticulated). These employees should be challenged daily to not only remain committed to their job, team, organization, and community of practice but to contribute new ideas, knowledge, concepts, and theories.
What are the attributes of meaningful work? Does in include task identify, autonomy, work/job design, high-performance, intrinsic rewards, etc…?
Thanks for the vote, Mr. Haberman. There are many of us out here ready, willing, and able to apply our considerable experience, education, and skills to a company willing to hire our over-55 selves. The truth is our work ethic and energy (thanks to the American farmer and modern medicine in this great country), we have more to offer businesses than newer graduates and the education we received gave us a far more capitalistic and practical mindset than our younger counterparts. If you want efficiency and results, hire an older worker.
I agree, having a conviction on your record makes it really tough trying to find a job. I just learned recently that a lot of schools (colleges) wont even admit you if you have a conviction. I feel it is unfair because if you have paid your debt to society, and you are trying to turn your life around and no one will give you a chance it makes it that much harder.
Yes I have been questions about gaps and I responded by telling them my mother was ill and I have to return home. I am from Cleveland, Ohio, and if this is not a good answer then how should I have answered.
Hi recently I submited a application online for a retail job position, and finally after 2 weeks waiting they ask me to set a interview with them. I don’t have any retail experience I know that customer service plays a big role for this position. I know what customer service meants to be. would this be a problem for me from getting hire. I love this retail store and I think this is a opportunity for me to use my skills and as well use new skills. I need some advice for the interview, haven’t been in a interview in a long time.
I was convicted of a crime at age 19, that 20 minutes down the road over the state border, would not have been prosecuted… but in Wisconsin, I spent 3 years in prison. I’m 23 now, in college, but I cannot find employment, and I’m getting frusterated with myself. My advice to you, brothers and sisters, is simple… It is hard, face it, and embrace it, but don’t let the system turn you into something you’re not. They truly would have beaten you then. Keep your head up, push on, and the sun will shine…
Enter your comments here i have applied for more than 20 different jobs online with no response for the past 4 months what should i do any advice would be very helpful thank you.
I agree with most people…utilize social networking. Let EVERYONE know you are out of work and ask them to keep their ears open. Also keep in touch with your previous supervisors as they will be able to refer you to openings they hear of. Be open minded…consider internships and volunteering as they may lead to jobs openings in the future if they see you are a great resource.
I hold three degrees, patents and held a position as VP Engineering. Unfortunately, my wife found out that I had a mistress. When I got off the plane in the states, I discovered my house empty, my cars destroyed, and my bank accounts empty. She called the IRS on me, and the local police and accused me of being a child predator. I was arrested and placed on a $370,000 bond. Obviously I couldn’t pay it. I sat in jail while the entire force of the state and FBI went through my life. They found no evidence of anything. But, I had the misfortune of using a P2P network called Limewire. In my cache file they discovered two pictures. One was of a girl under the age of 18 without her top on. The other was a Japanese anime drawing of a creature with tentacles raping a Asian girl.
The DA offered me a plea bargain. I would get 9 months of probation with my record expunged if I agreed to know that I had the two images on my computer. Otherwise they would seek a trial of 60 years hard labor if I was guilty (30 years per picture).
When the sentencing date came, the DA reneged on the agreement. The judge gave me five year of hard labor in a chain gang in Arkansas.
I’m out, but no one will hire me. OK. No problem. So I went overseas. My experience in missile research, laser weapons, and spacecraft avionics made me a hot commodity. So I make missiles for a different country? Who cares? It’s either that or scrub commodes for the rest of my life. While I did work on such projects as the Stinger Missile, star wars, Joint STARS, and HARM for the USA, I now am working for the red Chinese on their space technology and fighter aircraft.
I’m happier, and make more money and I’m living a far better life than I ever had lived before. I would of never done weapons research for a foreign nation, except for the scarlet letter provided by a over aggressive DA.
I must concur with the responses here, the info provided above is absolutely USELESS!!!! After seeing these responses the AJC should have just trashed this one, nothing useful here for any job seeker, just a bunch of vague answers.
was that last entry from anomous real.what a shame.i was convicted 9 years ago. on my councils advice i plead or get a long time in prison.my issue was sensitive involving a 16 year old it was not what it was .yes there are predators out there.in some cases its people in the wrong place at the wrong time.like me i stopped trying to prove my innocence no one beleives .i did my time work where i can and give it all to god.pee wee b careful there are people out there that will take your comments to heart.you dont want to do time with that attitude.it may be you,your brother,father,uncle,cousin,someone you care about that gets caught up you will eat your words.it is wise to stay silent sometimes.
Christians, HR employees (sum liars) and those who claim to want to help will most likely abuse your position and reject you the most. Good luck…just start your own business.
Most ageist attitudes in job-related interactions have nothing to do with the candidate’s “attitude”, physical appearance, abilities, or energy level. Although I am part of the “aging baby boomers” to quote hundreds of well meaning authors, I am also physically lean, professionally stylish, have more positive energy than people half my age, and am learning new technologies all the time. Ageism is a problem of ignorance on the part of the people who practice it–not the individuals who are aging. True, there are some over 50s who need to update their skills and wardrobe and attitude. But that is true of individuals in every generation. The problem is systemic–rooted in cultural stereotypes perpetuated by the media, the fashion and entertainment industries and HR and recruiting professionals. Until there is a major cultural shift, this issue will continue to undermine our economy and humanity.
What is the current demand for interns in the information technology field in Atlanta, Georgia? What are the places in Atlanta, Georgia that I can intern at?
good information to know.I Think it is entirely unfair for potential employers to judge you less favorably because of a long term period of being unemployed people do tend to get discouraged after a point.You come home and turn on the television watch the evening news after submitting resumes all day to see wall street once again has record earning numbers….
I recently had two interviews and the employers seemed shocked to here that I have been unemployed for a year. Both employers wanted to know what have I done within the past year. I expressed updating my computer skills with self training courses, while continuing my job search. The provided information does help and now my focus is on updating my resume to show volunteer work during my down time.
Oh please…people aren’t allowed to have a little down time between jobs? That’s what’s wrong with this country. Employers look at you as an “under-achiever” if you’re not up to your ears in staying busy. What is wrong with doing nothing more than brush up your skills? Afterall, when you ARE lucky enough to land a job, you’ll be humping your A$$ off because of the lean staff on hand. And chances are, you were humping before you lost your job as well. It’s a nice, long vacation…the ones they’re used to getting in Europe!!!! Not a measly 10 days!!!
11-1-09 671,000 unemployed in GA. Let’s face it, what responsible people have done for 2 yrs. is search for employment to pay all of the bills! This is what they ahve done when employed and not at work; and during the gap when unemployed! People have filled out 400+ databases, aps., mailed resumes, etc. and been interviewed very little. Co’s. all need help; but can’t afford to pay people. For Ex: This Burlington Northern Co. deal includes much less cap. expenditures; and less people on the payroll; among other things such as efficiency, less trucks on the road, and longer trains. Plus, Asian Imports, grains to Asia from the USA, and coal as a cost effective fuel, and its tranported by rail, also. I digressed!
The GA. DOL has 391 + jobs posted, which is .05% of the jobs needed. So, 95.95% of Georgians who want a job are failed by the situation.
Labor Ready, in N. ATL./Roswell, GA. areas has 10 to 20 workers waiting on work M-Sat. with few assignments in 12 + days of sitting around 2/3+ of the time. Yet, I see 15 new office complexes and retail sites in N. Fulton County GA.
With the kind of manpower avail., we could build a pipeline, a high speed railline, a biotech health center, a Stadium, and multi-use projects.
The Infrastructure is being built in small sections of the road at a time by a few workers in heavy construction; or even smaller groups in grading, etc.
The point is this now too: If you envision it, then show Georgia that you want to employ people now.
One project, GM Doraville, is stifling much economically in N. ATL.!
The deal makers need to Partner up; so that Georgians can direct deposit their pay back into another fin. in$tit.
When employed I found myself struggling to pay bills. I never live beyond my means. I did not have a furtune 500 status. Guess what? Since I have been unemployed my status never changed. Must stay focused and allow life to take its course. I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH ‘THE UNEMPLOYED’ COMMENT.
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Phil Dolan
January 8th, 2009
8:59 am
My wife and I were self employed for twenty five years till she got cancer and couldn’t work. She was the creative force in our art business, and thus I am back looking for work. Of course now I have a twenty five year gap in my accounting experience. My accounting degree seems obsolete and I cant even get an interview. I cant even get temp work as a bookkeeper because I didn’t learn Quicken, Excel or any modern computer accounting techniques. I’m broke, ruined and watching my wife deteriorate daily by inches. Foreclosure, bankruptcy, and probably jail are only days away. My newest suit is exactly nine years old. The only tie I own is a Jerry Garcia tie my wife got me for xmas in 1994. I need a haircut, I look older than my 57 years, and I have zero people skills or interviewing aplomb because I’ve been so isolated doing artwork in my garage all these years. We used to sell hundreds of paintings every year. There was no need for a Plan B. That’s why I didn’t pursue my masters or CPA or my computer skills. I guess HR training probably never prepared you for hopeless cases like mine, but thanks for trying.
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Sonjia
January 8th, 2009
11:20 am
I’ve been trying to get a position within Human Resources for some time now.I have three years working in Human Resources as a temp (in payroll and doing administrative tasks like setting up interviews,admin. testing, entering new applicant info.), and my other experience includes roughly seven years of admin. work and customer service. I graduate in Feb. 09 with my Bachelor’s degree, my major being Human Resources Management.I’m just wondering how in the world can I “get my foot in the door” because every where I look the employer wants more experience than I have. I really would love to work in the areas of training and development or recruiting. I appreciate any advice you can give me.
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RK
January 8th, 2009
8:45 pm
I will be retireing from the Navy in a few months and I wondering with all of the online job searching I am doing, how important is it to have a unique cover letter for each job application?
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Michael Haberman, SPHR
January 12th, 2009
9:02 am
RK:
I took a brief survey of some of my recruiter friends and we all agreed that the cover letter is not very important with the initial application if you are just applying to an ad. However, if you are sending your resume to a particular individual (the better way to do so) then a cover letter can be very important.
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Pamela
January 12th, 2009
2:07 pm
Hi Phil,
I understand where you are coming from. I was a stay at home mother for ten years so I had a ten year gap. My recommendation would be to recruit all of your friends, even the ones you haven’t spoken with in a while and tell them items that you need. If you have a friend who can give your hair a trim, call them. If you have a friend that is close to your size, ask them to borrow a suit. Exhaust your posiblities. This is what I did until I got on my feet. Hope this helps.
Pamela
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RK
January 13th, 2009
4:42 am
Most of the ads I am applying to are off of monster.com and hotjobs.com. With all of those ads they forward on your resume.
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TR
January 16th, 2009
3:39 pm
After 3 years as a manager and 5 years total with a rental car company, I followed my wife and kids to Atlanta where her job relocated us with her promotion. That was almost a year ago! After applying for several postions in the Atlanta Market and not wanting to sell copiers or financial services I am lost. The hardest thing is findin a career that paid and gave me the joy my last career gave me. After 12 or so interviews as a sales manager or as an account executive I have been given feedback that they prefer some one with industry experience vs. my skill set. I have been offered various entry level positions that pay not even a third of what I was making. Where do I look for a career in this market.
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Harvey Cholfin
January 19th, 2009
11:13 pm
Back injury curtailed a future as an airplane mechanic. Bookkeeping was suggested, and night classes was next step. One of the first opportunities led to a position normally filled by females (employer’s choice), but was hired because the hirelings would not stay, due to the
location and unpleasant (to a female)venue. So, opportunity can and does play a part in job-hunting,
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Emily
January 20th, 2009
6:50 pm
I recently relocated to the metro Atlanta area from Houston and was wondering if there is an HR Rountable group that meets for the purpose of networking? We had one in Houston where HR professionals would meet once a month, usually had a speaker and had an opportunity to network. Is there anything like that other than SHRM meetings?
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Zsuzsu Illes
January 20th, 2009
9:33 pm
I am wondering whether it would work for Phil Dolan to sell his services (that which he did for his wife) to other artists in the area?
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Joy Johnston
January 22nd, 2009
8:24 pm
Emily-
There are indeed Atlanta HR groups that may be of interest to you. Here is a list compiled by HR Roundtable panelist, Dionna Keels:
HR Leadership Forum – Atlanta: For HR Executives
The American Society for Training and Development – Atlanta
The Atlanta Area Compensation Association
Metro Atlanta Recruiters Channel
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Stacy Norris
January 24th, 2009
2:31 pm
I was laid off from a Medical billing/collections position in May 08 after 10 years of service. (Company sold) At the same time I relocated to an area that I am not familiar with, nor do I really know anyone, and I am having a difficult time trying to find a position within the medical industry. There are jobs available but the going trend here is knowing someone within that company. I am really at a loss, I have the qualifications for the jobs but I cannot seem to even get a call back to inquire about my resume. The Job ads are next to none since everything is word of mouth, so I really don’t know what my next move should be. Any thoughts?
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JD
January 26th, 2009
10:11 am
I relocated to the Atlanta area six months ago due to a transfer my husband had to make. I was employed as an HR Coordinator at the corporate headquarters of a large company in Dallas, TX, and have yet to find work here in Atlanta. I am a hard worker, smart and reliable. I know if I could just get an interview or two I might be able to find something, but haven’t even gotten that far in the process. Help!
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January 26th, 2009
10:12 am
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Brad
January 27th, 2009
1:53 pm
Half the staff twice the work. I think this is the common fear for many employees that “survive” layoffs. Many companies are cutting in every department leaving them depleted and grasping for air. I think more now than ever companies need to look at outsourcing as a cost cutting maneuver that leaves employees still feeling a bit of love. Consider using HR Outsourcing to cut the bottom line while maintaining a outlet for the remaining employees to deal with HR related claims such benefits and such. Keeping your remaining employees happy is essential to staying the course.
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Joy Johnston
January 27th, 2009
5:23 pm
Stacy-
Here are what some of our HR and employments experts have had to say, they seem to think that right now, networking is the key, so even though you are new in the area, it may be wise to become involved in local groups to rebuild a professional network so that you can have another avenue for job leads:
http://www.ajc.com/hotjobs/content/hotjobs/careercenter/articles/2008/12/07/askhr_layoffs.html
You might want to consider going the contract or temp route as well:
http://www.ajc.com/hotjobs/content/hotjobs/careercenter/articles/2008/10/19/lindgren.html
Good luck to you in your job search!
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Duchess
February 6th, 2009
6:50 pm
I have job presently, but I don’t like it. I am very thankful to have a job, but do I stay with my job and be miserable or do I try and find something else. Where do I draw the line. Thanks.
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Michael Haberman, SPHR
February 16th, 2009
2:23 pm
Duchess:
Right now I would stay with the job and try to figure out what you don’t like about it and see if you can fix it. But, nothing bars you from looking for a job while you have a job. In fact, that is actually the best situation. Just try to do it on your own time. Otherwise you may find yourself on the outside looking in and now is not a good time to be doing that.
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Lane
February 21st, 2009
10:11 am
With today’s high unemployment rate, how long would a person be unemployed before he/she is asked during an interview why he/she has been out of work for so long?
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Joy Johnston
March 2nd, 2009
11:42 am
Lane, a related question just happened to be answered in this month’s Ask HR column, hope it helps:
http://www.ajc.com/hotjobs/content/hotjobs/careercenter/articles/2009/02/28/ask_hr.html
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GRS
March 4th, 2009
12:37 pm
I have increased online social networking activities. I also participate in group meetings which have yieleded job leads and charity work opportunities.
Getting in front of people who know people who are hiring is the key to finding employment sooner.
It is also a great time to evaluate a home based business. This solution offers a chance to earn income while you determine your next career move.
http://www.wellnessliving4all.net
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Patricia Sahertian
March 12th, 2009
3:46 pm
You are right, there are many obstacles that stand in the way of older workers getting the job. And some of what you are saying is so important, especially keeping up with job skills and technology. Knowing how to network and use a computer is a must in today’s job market.
But as far as what you look like, where do you draw the line? What’s next, plastic surgery, botox, hair dye… and what does it have to do with your job skills? Yes, being clean and well groomed is important for your interview at any age, but whether I wear my hair in a bun or I have it cut in a funky new style will not make one bit of difference in my job performance.
When I lived in New York I used to go to a doctor who was in his 70s and wore polyester pants suits from the 1960s. I went there because he was a good, compassionate and educated doctor. It did not matter what he looked like, he knew his job and he did it well.
And as far as weight, that is a completely different area of discrimination, and that is absolutely not a criteria of job performance, unless your job is such that you could not do it due to your weight.
And what does energy mean? Quite frankly that cuts across the age barrier. I have been involved with some young people who are more likely to want to relax and take breaks on the job than some of the older people I know. Energy is an individual issue.
I am tired of the blame for ageism being placed on the individual who is being discriminated against. The blame of any kind of discrimination comes from the ignorance of the discriminators.
Corporations, recruiters and human resources departments need to be educated in what to look for to find a good employee. They need to get over the insipient stereotypes that that are perpetuated day in and day out by well meaning individuals who say it is all our fault.
You are already setting up a stereotype in your article by assuming old people do not have energy, do not have good hair cuts and don’t know how to act. That is an outrage. Most of us have been in the workforce for years, have kept up with culture, trends and technology. I find it insulting to assume otherwise.
The reason we are discriminated against is not because of who we are, but because our society does not value age and experience. Part of that was started by us, the very individuals who are now feeling its sting. Remember “Never trust anyone over thirty”?
What is needed is awareness and education and more intergenerational experiences where we can all learn the value that we all have to offer.
I made a movie about age discrimination issues in the workforce. It presents all these points, and has well meaning job councilors and coaches saying exactly what you are saying here, but if you listen to the words of the individuals who are affected by age discrimination you will understand it from a whole other perspective.
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Angela J
March 13th, 2009
10:30 am
I’m sorry, but I think this praise of the City of Atlanta is ridiculous. Some of those critical employees with that critical talent are the Police Officers of the City but not once have they been given their fair share of raises. One of the obvious ways for the city to save money is to give officers raises so they don’t leave. Instead, these officers aren’t given raises for nearly 6 years, they’ve just been furloughed so their pay has been CUT, which has caused many of them to leave the department for better opportunities in the surrounding areas. Wouldn’t it make much more sense to keep these officers happy rather than spending even more money on recruiting new officers who will then have to be trained for years to meet the level of the officers they’re replacing? As HR professionals we all know, and continuously preach, that its much cheaper to keep your current employees happy than to have to find and mold new ones!
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Wendy Tedder
March 14th, 2009
11:37 am
Ageism is alive and well. And the current job market is looking for deep skills in narrow areas. I went to a job seekers seminar last week and one marketing person was concerned about a very tiny sideways step and how to sell her skills as appropriate in a slightly different industry. Talk about pigeon-holing! I thought we were beyond the age of ultra-specialization spawned by Henry Ford nearly a century ago.
One result of this organization style that I see often is a failure to coordinate efforts around one goal long enough to make it to the end. We older workers are more integrated, have broader experience, and can spot that kind of failure in a heartbeat. We also have a variety of experience in multiple areas making us ideal integrators of effort and spotters of holes that spell failure. We can also anticipate unintended consequences more effectively, having lived through many. I would feel better about our economy if I saw more gray heads in the administration.
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Jerome Fannin
March 14th, 2009
4:13 pm
Why are people always looking for a reason to not like a person first. That is what brings out all harrassment
on jobs, schools and all other places. If a person cannot find a job, there is going to be gaps in their employment.
Their are some highly learned persons with bad hand writing. I used learned because going to school and
learning is not the same thing.
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Michael Haberman, SPHR
March 16th, 2009
11:22 am
Patricia:
I used the “stereotypes” I did, not out of prejudice, but out of recognition of them in friends and collegues, many of whom are out looking for work. At the same time I will say that I have many other friends well over 40 (as I am well over 40) who are models of energy, organization and are well aware of social trends. However, this does not negate the fact the prejudice exists, right or wrong, and the more you can do to lesson the effect on you the better off you are.
Most over 40 job seekers are not interested in being social crusaders, they want a job. Given that I have had personal comments from some friends, that I directed to this blog post, that indicate they found the advice useful I hope there is some practical pointers in amoungst the stereotypes.
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Rob Herbert
March 16th, 2009
9:44 pm
I am in the process of relocating to the Atlanta area with my wife who will be working in Atlanta. I appreciate these comments as I believe they will assist me in my new job search. The comments also show that the city cares. Thank you…
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Juan J.
March 24th, 2009
7:41 pm
To piggyback on Mr. Jerome Fannin’s comment: Thanks for echoeing my sentiment! You are so on target! If you can’t seem to find a job (like I haven’t been able to in 6 months now) then, of course you are going to have gaps. It is even hard to find volunteer opportunities because everyone is turning to the same “rescue techniques” job fairs and volunteering to seal gaps. This thing has to end soon because we are all in the same boat – Trying to keep from sinking!!
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M. T.
April 9th, 2009
9:25 am
We’re taking a week’s vacation next week, but we will be hanging out in Atlanta and hiking nearby. Originally, we planned for a week in NC, but decided we didn’t want to spend the money – probably $1,000 – on hotels, food, etc. when we could hike just as easily near home. I just want to get my credit card paid off by the end of the year. If we can do that, we are going to go to London.
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sharon deline
April 9th, 2009
9:50 am
GOING TO DISNEY WORLD THE END OF MAY WITH MY GRANDCHILDREN LIFE IS SHORT SO FUN IS NECCESSARY
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April 9th, 2009
10:14 am
Life is short. Therefore, one should be mindful of her punctuation and Caps Lock key.
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JJ
April 9th, 2009
10:33 am
I have accumulated 4 weeks of vacation time, and trust me I take all four weeks. I earned it, I take it.
There is so many activities that are free right here in our own back yard.
I myself am going to Hilton Head in May. A friend owns a house (free rent), and there are about 6 of us going ($20 gas round trip, $50 for food/alcohol) for 5 days. There is a pool at the house, and a short walk to a private beach. I plan on camping on the beach, with my cooler and lounge chair and several good books…….Hilton Head for less than $100/pp…..I don’t need any souvieners, or fancy restaurants. We are all pitching in and cooking at the house.
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jmax123
April 9th, 2009
10:48 am
Life is also too short to bother with being a jerk on a newspaper forum. She’s taking her grandchildren to DisneyWorld – don’t be so critical.
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ParkLady
April 9th, 2009
10:50 am
Visit our beautiful Georgia State Parks! That’s the best way to help keep them open, and a great way to spend family time. You can see all of them at http://www.gastateparks.org. For even deeper savings, become a Friend of the parks at http://www.friendsofgastateparks.org. Get Out, Get Dirty, Get Fit!
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jomoes
April 9th, 2009
10:58 am
Planning a camping trip to beautiful Cumberland Island.
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BreezyATL
April 9th, 2009
11:14 am
I’m planning a trip with a group of friends. We’re still brainstorming on a destination, but one thing is certain, we’re going somewhere! Everyone needs to press the reset button at least twice per year.
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Tom
April 12th, 2009
4:26 pm
I just took a short vtrip to Houston for two interviews, but it was also my birthday that weekend. I feel so much better than I did before, it was so nice to get away! It is crucial to take a vacation or else you will crash!
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momtoAlex&Max
April 12th, 2009
5:04 pm
I happen to think vacations are a NECESSITY even if you don’t go out of town and just hang around the house/own town. Not taking time off is foolish. But I am guessing it impresses the corporate types. So glad to be self-employed!
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JLM
April 12th, 2009
8:19 pm
I just returned from a week in Orlando. The relaxation was much needed…I was on overload. A week away from work has allowed me to recharge and place things in perspective. The smiles on my wife and daughter face at Disney/Seaworld are immeasurable. It was worth every $$$. Too often, we buy into the culture of working hard with no play; failing to understand other areas of our lives suffer. As result our performance at home and work is not optimal.
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yvette
April 12th, 2009
8:45 pm
aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Maui, Maui, Maui aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
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Janice Billingslea
April 14th, 2009
10:38 am
I am new to job seeking at 50 and it is a new day; I panic when I am on line applying for jobs and I am not sure whether or not my resume made it to the employer. Not being able to speak with the employer is mind-blowing to me. However, I am convinced that when I have the opportunity to interview with the employer that I will be able to present my skills and experience in such a way that they will be certain that I am the person for the job regardless of my age. I really try not to concentrate on it because it does come across if you are self-conscious. My problem is being able to convience the employer that I am willing to accept a lower paying position than my past work history reflects. I have tried scaling it down, but it has not worked in some instances. Atlanta
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April 16th, 2009
4:57 pm
[...] a timely topic from HR Roundtable panel member Dionna Keels. While much discussion has surrounded those that are laid off, what about those that survive job [...]
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The Truth
April 20th, 2009
7:24 am
Job Fairs are the BIGGEST waste of time. Other than getting some practice presenting yourself if you’ve been out of the interviewing game for awhile, one should not expect anything significant to come out of attending a job fair. Your best bet would be to get a list of the employers that will be in attendance from the job fair website, and check out those companies’ website job postings and submit your resume accordingly, because there only going to tell you to check the site frequently, and that they’ll scan your resume into their system.
The only thing you gain from a job fair is the feeling that you’re being proactive about your current job situation. If you need practice get dressed up and go. If you’re getting interviews don’t waste the time, and gas.
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Mandatory arbitration: HR expert’s take on Pyett decision | HR Roundtable
April 23rd, 2009
2:15 pm
[...] Roundtable member Bill Pinto gives his take on the U.S. Supreme Court ’s opinion to allow unions to waive employee’s [...]
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Sometimes you have to change course in life | HR Roundtable
April 30th, 2009
6:06 am
[...] Roundtable member Michael Haberman shares his own tale of having to reinvent himself after losing his job many years [...]
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Valencia Epps
May 4th, 2009
11:17 am
Ageism is obviously a problem. I am 53 years old and have been in the job market for 2 years with no success. I notice those my age have the same problem.
Ironically, I have no gray hair, have computer skills, and have education in various areas. I must admit I am overweight but have not gotten the opportunity for any interviewer to see that, as I have only gone on one interview.
What I have been told from the human resources advisers is experience (which comes with age) is a threat to the younger generation. I would think that it would be an advantage since most aged people are looking to add to the organization instead of taking anything away. We are not looking for an exorbitant salary, we are just looking to be of enormous help and keep ourselves busy at the same time.
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Creating a culture at work | HR Roundtable
May 14th, 2009
4:24 pm
[...] Roundtable expert Bill Pinto discusses the importance of creating the right kind of culture in the [...]
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Now is the Time to Step-Up Training | HR Roundtable
May 21st, 2009
11:56 am
[...] Roundtable panel member Michael Haberman discusses how important it is for companies to continue to provide training for their employees [...]
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Nancy Purves
May 27th, 2009
12:33 pm
My experience with the post interview process so far has not been very successful. I have had several good interviews and although I ask and receive the schedule for the hiring decision and the follow-up process with each employer I am finding that the prospective employer is not following through with their commitment.
I always follow up an interview with a personal handwritten thank-you note and when the scheduled time for the decision has past I follow up with an email and/or call.
When I follow up on the perspective employer I am getting the following;
1) No response to my voice mail or messages or email
2) I am being told that if there is an interest, someone will call
3) No ability to reach the hiring manager
4) No follow up from the employer when the decision is made
Any suggestions for follow up that’s worked for others would be greatly appreciated.
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Tiffany
May 27th, 2009
1:20 pm
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Philip Smith
May 29th, 2009
1:59 pm
An example of how to get a great work environment & Culture:
Bill,
The Fruit Farmer, Inc. is a leader in delivering farm-fresh fruit directly to companies nationwide.
We partner with corporations to provide daily baskets of fresh fruit to their employees. We deliver a wide variety of fruits that give employees a healthier option for snacks and lunch at their place of employment. Based in Atlanta, Georgia
(www.thefruitfarmer.net)
Great for boosting the attitudes at work and help employees eat healthy.
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peewee
May 30th, 2009
11:21 am
Advice: get a job with waste management and work at the landfills with the rest of the trash!!!
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Lynne Norton
June 1st, 2009
9:21 am
This blog rings true for many in the nonprofit community who have chosen to switch sectors from corporate/for profit to the social sector. I wanted to share for people interested in nonprofit careers that on June 16 2009 Opportunity Knocks, the national nonprofit Job Board and Career Development website owned and operated by the Georgia Center for Nonprofits, is proud to present a day of workshops and consultative sessions to help improve job and nonprofit career development strategies and job-seeking skills. Here’s a link to information on our site http://www.gcn.org
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HR Recruiter
June 4th, 2009
10:06 am
Send me your resume peewee so I can immediately put it in the circular file, please.
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diane morose
June 8th, 2009
4:05 pm
I AM CURRENTLY A BUSINESS OWNER WIYH A PARTNER. DUE TO THE RECESSION OR COMPANY SIMPLY CANNOT AFFORD TO SUPPORT EVERYONE. WE HAVE CUT BACK TO THE BARE MINIMUM ALONG WITH TAKING HEALTHY PAY CUTS. I AM READY TO EXIT BUT JUST DONT KNOW HOW TO GO FROM BUSINEE OWNER AFTER 20 PLUS YEARS TO EMPLOYEE. I FEEL I REALLY DONT HAVE MUCH TO MARKET. I KNOW AS A BUSINESS OWNER I HAVE OFTEN LOOKED DOWN ON PREVIOUS BUSINESS OWNERS WHO APPLIED FOR WORK AT MY COMPANY. MY THINKING WAS THEY THOUGHT THEY KNEW EVERYTHING OR THAT THEY HAD FAILED IN BUSINESS. ANY THOUGHTS?
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Getting back into the job market after a long absence? | HR Roundtable
June 10th, 2009
6:32 pm
[...] week’s blog post. For Phil and anyone else who may be in a similar situation, here’s Bill Pinto’s [...]
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MikNVA
June 11th, 2009
3:22 pm
Im a convicted felon and never realized how difficult supporting my family would be because of this. I took a plea deal because i was afraid of the justice system, but knowing what i know now…things would have been totally different. I think im in this situation for a purpose, because at one point i was on the other side pointing my fingers at those who chose to live above the law…..and maybe this was Gods way of helping me understand that he’s the only true judge. As for me now, Im trying to start a business working with at risk youth on how to be productive citizens and cope with todays societal problems using music……I truly hope that one day, a system could be institued where felons can be screened and decided by the work they do a few yrs after the initial conviction…Im sure that will say alot…..
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Observations from an internal workplace investigation | HR Roundtable
June 12th, 2009
4:55 pm
[...] Roundtable panel member Bill Pinto details what goes on during an internal investigation in the [...]
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Andie1958
June 18th, 2009
7:16 pm
Convicted felons paid their dues, and I believe that denying them employment opportunities is double jeopardy. Since we all are one mistake away from jail anyway. I think people should have compassion. What goes around comes around.
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June 19th, 2009
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Barb
June 19th, 2009
10:22 pm
My son messed up at 17, entering an auto. At 23 he can’nt find a job. What he did was wrong but how can he change when no one will give him a second chance. If someone hired him with the potential of advancement he would be the most loyal employee. Any advice
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Turd Ferguson
June 22nd, 2009
1:49 pm
Andie1958 either you are confused about the definition of Double Jeopardy or you are a complete idiot. I suggest you study/consult websters.
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Turd Ferguson
June 22nd, 2009
1:51 pm
Barb. I recommend he not mention it on his application. Some companies will only search back 5 years, some 10 years. Its just a chance your son must take.
Find the cracks in the system and Exploit exploit exploit.
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Turd Ferguson
June 22nd, 2009
1:53 pm
Can you think of any co-workers with whom you have worked who blame others for their shortcomings? YES…Most of them do this.
Have you ever been that person? Absolutely NOT!
I am the perfect employee.
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LL
June 27th, 2009
12:20 am
I am currently in the position of being a convicted felon and there is no simple answer. I was in a situation where it really was the wrong place at the wrong time I haven’t been employed since the initial arrest even though I have a strong resume and college to back it up but there are places that will help, I can say parole or probation is not one of them it depends on your area I found a place based in Ohio called the weed and seed program who help convicts re-enter the work force, they may have a program in your area
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AMB
June 30th, 2009
10:12 am
I have had this very experience myself! In my case the employee was completely unwilling to recognize her own responsibility in the situation and not only elevated her complaint to our corporate counsel but complained about me stating that I was bias. How do you handle such an employee?!
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BAL
June 30th, 2009
10:55 pm
As a long term state employee, I have been in many different work places/offices thru out my years, and what I have observed is that the work place environment is created by the Supervisor and/or Director in each office. If management is fair, reasonable, honest and open, the office environment has always been good/highly productive, but if management is poor, the entire office staff suffer. The office dynamics created by poor management is akin to being a patient in a psychiatric ward where each individual workers worst personality traits seem to come out in the attempt to make sense of something that makes no sense or has no solution. And, what I have seen is that State Management has no accountability to anyone for how staff is treated, and in general staff have little voice or credibility. Fairness in state government for the staff is a joke, and remember we are a Free Work state, which means either accept the environment or look for another job.
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Truth
June 30th, 2009
11:10 pm
If the employee is in a non-merited state position, no matter how many years they have worked for the State, the employee has no voice to complain or go up the chain of command to his superiors. And, if the employee complains anyway, he/she can be fired on the spot with no recourse.
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Hattie
July 6th, 2009
12:18 am
YES, I AM A CONVICTED FELON. bACK IN 2000 WHEN i WAS RELEASED FROM PRISON, PLACES LIKE McDONALDS, BURGER KING, AND WENDY”S DIDNT THINK MUCH ABOUT WHAT WAS IN YOUR PAST, SO LONG AS YOU PUT IN A GOOD DAYS WORK, SHOWED UP WHEN SCHEDULED,AND WAS COURTEOUS TO CUSTOMERS, YOU HAD A JOB. THATS WHERE I STARTED. AFTER A YEAR OF FLIPPING BURGERS I APPLIED, AND WAS HIRED AT TARGET. I HAVE BEEN EMPLOYED WITH TARGET FOR EIGHT YEARS BECAUSE I DID NOT ALLOW ANYONE TO TELL ME WHAT I WAS WORTH.KNOW YOUR OWN VALUE. I”M ALSO IN COLLEGE WITH A 3.11 GPA.THE SYSTEM INCARCERATED ME BUT I DIDNT ALLOW IT TO KEEP ME LOCKED-UP, OR FEELSORRY FOR MYSELF. BEING A FELON EMPOWERS ME TO PUT MY BEST OUT FRONT. SOON I HOPE TO OPEN MY OWN HALFWAY HOUSE FOR CONVICTED FELONS, AND BY DOING SO I HOPE TO CHANGE THE RECIDIVISM RATE OF FELONS. MY ADVICE TO ALL FELONS LOOKING FOR WORK, COME OUT OF YOUR COMFORT ZONE, START AT THE BOTTOM, WORK YOUR WAY UP. IT WANT HURT YOU TO CHANGE BOATS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OCEAN IF YOU KNOW HOW TO SWIM
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mr. mang
July 9th, 2009
5:12 pm
Thanks for these worthless tidbits of information!
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buckhead benny
July 9th, 2009
5:30 pm
how about being a bankruptcy attorney, running a liqour store, a funeral home- being a politician, or having anything to do with a business that specializes in others misfortune- for example- repo’s, collections, credit card companies, etc- Also, the next best industry would probably be sales- if you can sell you will always have a place for someone’s business- Now that was the truth- The rest of the comments above were bs-
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Stewie
July 9th, 2009
5:34 pm
Amen, Benny…if you can sell, you’ll always be employed.
KSAOCs…still laughing at that BS.
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jdawg
July 9th, 2009
6:05 pm
Just be honest it does work ! Peewee must be a prosecutor or an ass , both would fit. Hey peewee where did get the name from your wife ?
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Ulric Lawrence
July 9th, 2009
6:58 pm
Are these people for real? Given the present employment situation I believe that these “helpers” should be removed as they are “useless”. These people are obviously comfortable and are wallowing in ignorance.
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D.J.
July 9th, 2009
6:59 pm
Great answer Benny. Im amazed that the three of them combined couldn’t come up with that answer
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Tara
July 14th, 2009
4:52 pm
I recently lost my job in March 09 but my partner and I had already planned for a week in orlando with the kids. I struggled with the decision of whether to go or not. My kids made straight A’s and was really looking forward to the trip. we decided to leap out on faith and go anyway. We had a blast, the kids learned a lot about the ocean and ocean creatures, we didnt eat out, we cooked in the villa and we didnt buy any souveniers. We had a blast, my kids were very happt, partner was refreshed and I just decided to enjoy even thought I didnt have a job. I’m so glad we went. Yes take a vacation!!!
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Turd Ferguson
July 15th, 2009
12:45 pm
uh ya…like Im gonna take advice from the 3 idiots pictured in this article. More junk journalism…*POOT*
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Turd Ferguson
July 15th, 2009
12:47 pm
Cushy State jobs are for slackers and people occupying the State chair couldnt make it in the private sector…LOSERS…*POOT* inya face.
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Turd Ferguson
July 15th, 2009
12:50 pm
Culture Smulture. One goes to work to perform a task not worry about silly office culture. Grow up ya punks and BTW…GET TO WORK!! *POOT*
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KLG
July 16th, 2009
11:02 am
Please Disregard PeeWee and Turd Ferguson; thier advice is not helpful. Exploiting loopholes can be viewed as dishonest. When filling out applications, state “will discuss at interview” in the legal history part. This way, you have the chance to be honest and open with a potential employer about what they will likely find during a background check. During the interview, focus on what you have done in your life to make sure the situation does not happen again.
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Will proposed changes in health care help employees? | HR Headquarters
July 16th, 2009
1:40 pm
[...] HR Roundtable panel member Bill Pinto gives his take on the health care reform bills currently being debated in Congress, and their impact on small businesses and their employees: [...]
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Turd Ferguson
July 16th, 2009
3:06 pm
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DM
July 17th, 2009
1:00 pm
I would like to add a comment as well my son now 25 unable to get work being a felon mistake ,getting a job is impossible these days with the economy much less having a felon . The only thing I can off as advice is to get a pardon you are allowed a once in a life time pardon so if u do get one you better know your going to be straight from that point onward otherwise it all can come back on your record so that is the only thing i know to suggest unless someone has the heart to give you another chance .
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Rick Ard
July 19th, 2009
7:26 am
i sure agree with all the comments here. i have no grey hair and i have lost 40 lbs since march. it seems like i am being kicked to the curb before i even get to the sidewalk.
good luck everyone.
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Regi
July 22nd, 2009
2:01 pm
I have to agree that was pretty lame advice in these times. In particular the attorney…that read like a thesis.
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Meaningful work can help retain employees | HR Headquarters
July 23rd, 2009
6:06 am
[...] Roundtable panelist Michael Haberman discusses the benefits of meaningful work when it comes to retaining good [...]
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Cathy Missildine-Martin
July 23rd, 2009
2:21 pm
Thanks Mike for keeping my list going. I agree, commitment to your work is definitely #5. I also agree that companies are relying heavy on top talent right now. So, the connection to meaningful work is so hard to do. How do you think managers and HR professionals can commuicate to employees the value of their job in the overall scheme?
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T J
July 29th, 2009
2:32 pm
No!
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oscar
July 30th, 2009
6:34 pm
I am tired of all these HR professionals with the same tired, lame advice. Call me jaded or pessimistic, but I’m sick of it. I am in a rut like so many other people and all I need is a chance. The bad part is that all over the US people blogs and sites have so-called HR professionals talking in riddles. IT IS NOT WHAT YOU KNOW, IT’S WHO YOU KNOW! Anyone living in metro Atlanta can attest to that. And this tidbit has nothing to do with class, gender, race, age, ethnicity, nationality, or sexual orientation—we simply live in a society built on what they now call, “social networkiing.” Who you know, not what you know. And to think I thought sleeping to the top would get me somewhere, honey, Please.
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Richard Webb
August 4th, 2009
9:39 am
Patricia:
Tey the age is a problem a big problem. I have met it for over a year. And even after I was in my last job, the wife;’s boss made a comment to him ” What is this Golden Pond you are creating here?” I have heard “over qualified, the job had changed, the job is going away, we need someone with younger contacts.” Unfortunately I have been very successful with my own business and other businesses,. I am quite sharp with finding root causes and the overlooked solution to problems. Oh yes the .. “You look good on paper but..” At 61 I can hold my own in construction meet all the physical challenges. Never miss a day, be on time speak with any group of people, handle a one-on-one with statesmen and laborers. I’m computer savvy, and can sell most anyone. so why/
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Shelia Way
August 4th, 2009
11:11 am
If you live in this world, and you want a good paying job; and you don’t know anyone you will not get that positon. I don’t care you have all the education in the world they saying young people getting all the job what that say for us older people!!!!
S.W
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Shelia
August 4th, 2009
11:14 am
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Alicia
August 5th, 2009
2:57 am
Or you could open a top ramen noodle manufacturing plant.The comments above are not helpful, the responses to the comments are more practical information for getting a job in this climate. Jeepers!
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Transition Services Blog at RiseSmart » Don’t look desperate in your job search — even if you are
August 6th, 2009
8:51 am
[...] dwell on the past, but don’t ignore the lessons learned. As Michael Haberman at HR Roundtable explains in his tale of changing careers, this may be a time for “radical [...]
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Cherise Hemmings
August 11th, 2009
8:37 pm
Meaningful work is important to talented employees especially those who possess tacit knowledge (non-verbalized, intuitive, and unarticulated). These employees should be challenged daily to not only remain committed to their job, team, organization, and community of practice but to contribute new ideas, knowledge, concepts, and theories.
What are the attributes of meaningful work? Does in include task identify, autonomy, work/job design, high-performance, intrinsic rewards, etc…?
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Warning to HR managers: EEOC offers help to employees who waive claims | HR Headquarters
August 13th, 2009
5:42 pm
[...] Roundtable panel member Bill Pinto gives his opinion about how the EEOC is actually encouraging employees to challenge the validity of [...]
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Brett Favre and “un-retirement”: Model for baby-boomers and boon for employers | HR Headquarters
August 20th, 2009
6:03 am
[...] Roundtable panelist Michael Haberman suggests that the Brett Favre NFL “un-retirement” saga may become more popular in the [...]
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Farley
August 21st, 2009
9:02 am
Thanks for the vote, Mr. Haberman. There are many of us out here ready, willing, and able to apply our considerable experience, education, and skills to a company willing to hire our over-55 selves. The truth is our work ethic and energy (thanks to the American farmer and modern medicine in this great country), we have more to offer businesses than newer graduates and the education we received gave us a far more capitalistic and practical mindset than our younger counterparts. If you want efficiency and results, hire an older worker.
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lbg
August 28th, 2009
8:26 pm
I agree, having a conviction on your record makes it really tough trying to find a job. I just learned recently that a lot of schools (colleges) wont even admit you if you have a conviction. I feel it is unfair because if you have paid your debt to society, and you are trying to turn your life around and no one will give you a chance it makes it that much harder.
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tsveta petkova
August 31st, 2009
3:58 pm
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tsveta petkova
August 31st, 2009
3:59 pm
i am looking for phlebotomu position
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Yolanda Price
September 8th, 2009
8:23 pm
Yes I have been questions about gaps and I responded by telling them my mother was ill and I have to return home. I am from Cleveland, Ohio, and if this is not a good answer then how should I have answered.
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MAPULE MTHETHWA
September 9th, 2009
10:38 pm
How can HR menangers help to retain staff.
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tim ashmore
September 15th, 2009
5:02 pm
PEE WEE AND TURD MUST HAVE FOUND ROMANCE AND INTERNET ACCESS IN THE PENITENTIARY.
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tania
September 17th, 2009
1:03 pm
Hi recently I submited a application online for a retail job position, and finally after 2 weeks waiting they ask me to set a interview with them. I don’t have any retail experience I know that customer service plays a big role for this position. I know what customer service meants to be. would this be a problem for me from getting hire. I love this retail store and I think this is a opportunity for me to use my skills and as well use new skills. I need some advice for the interview, haven’t been in a interview in a long time.
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Het Hopkins
September 21st, 2009
10:51 pm
I was convicted of a crime at age 19, that 20 minutes down the road over the state border, would not have been prosecuted… but in Wisconsin, I spent 3 years in prison. I’m 23 now, in college, but I cannot find employment, and I’m getting frusterated with myself. My advice to you, brothers and sisters, is simple… It is hard, face it, and embrace it, but don’t let the system turn you into something you’re not. They truly would have beaten you then. Keep your head up, push on, and the sun will shine…
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sammie daniel
September 29th, 2009
5:02 pm
Enter your comments here i have applied for more than 20 different jobs online with no response for the past 4 months what should i do any advice would be very helpful thank you.
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Lindsey
October 1st, 2009
12:18 pm
I agree with most people…utilize social networking. Let EVERYONE know you are out of work and ask them to keep their ears open. Also keep in touch with your previous supervisors as they will be able to refer you to openings they hear of. Be open minded…consider internships and volunteering as they may lead to jobs openings in the future if they see you are a great resource.
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Globals
October 2nd, 2009
10:44 pm
all good things
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Anomous
October 10th, 2009
4:14 pm
I hold three degrees, patents and held a position as VP Engineering. Unfortunately, my wife found out that I had a mistress. When I got off the plane in the states, I discovered my house empty, my cars destroyed, and my bank accounts empty. She called the IRS on me, and the local police and accused me of being a child predator. I was arrested and placed on a $370,000 bond. Obviously I couldn’t pay it. I sat in jail while the entire force of the state and FBI went through my life. They found no evidence of anything. But, I had the misfortune of using a P2P network called Limewire. In my cache file they discovered two pictures. One was of a girl under the age of 18 without her top on. The other was a Japanese anime drawing of a creature with tentacles raping a Asian girl.
The DA offered me a plea bargain. I would get 9 months of probation with my record expunged if I agreed to know that I had the two images on my computer. Otherwise they would seek a trial of 60 years hard labor if I was guilty (30 years per picture).
When the sentencing date came, the DA reneged on the agreement. The judge gave me five year of hard labor in a chain gang in Arkansas.
I’m out, but no one will hire me. OK. No problem. So I went overseas. My experience in missile research, laser weapons, and spacecraft avionics made me a hot commodity. So I make missiles for a different country? Who cares? It’s either that or scrub commodes for the rest of my life. While I did work on such projects as the Stinger Missile, star wars, Joint STARS, and HARM for the USA, I now am working for the red Chinese on their space technology and fighter aircraft.
I’m happier, and make more money and I’m living a far better life than I ever had lived before. I would of never done weapons research for a foreign nation, except for the scarlet letter provided by a over aggressive DA.
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Sally
October 12th, 2009
9:40 pm
I must concur with the responses here, the info provided above is absolutely USELESS!!!! After seeing these responses the AJC should have just trashed this one, nothing useful here for any job seeker, just a bunch of vague answers.
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american citizen
October 19th, 2009
2:49 am
was that last entry from anomous real.what a shame.i was convicted 9 years ago. on my councils advice i plead or get a long time in prison.my issue was sensitive involving a 16 year old it was not what it was .yes there are predators out there.in some cases its people in the wrong place at the wrong time.like me i stopped trying to prove my innocence no one beleives .i did my time work where i can and give it all to god.pee wee b careful there are people out there that will take your comments to heart.you dont want to do time with that attitude.it may be you,your brother,father,uncle,cousin,someone you care about that gets caught up you will eat your words.it is wise to stay silent sometimes.
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FO God
October 23rd, 2009
5:47 am
Christians, HR employees (sum liars) and those who claim to want to help will most likely abuse your position and reject you the most. Good luck…just start your own business.
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Carol Anthony
October 25th, 2009
3:14 pm
Most ageist attitudes in job-related interactions have nothing to do with the candidate’s “attitude”, physical appearance, abilities, or energy level. Although I am part of the “aging baby boomers” to quote hundreds of well meaning authors, I am also physically lean, professionally stylish, have more positive energy than people half my age, and am learning new technologies all the time. Ageism is a problem of ignorance on the part of the people who practice it–not the individuals who are aging. True, there are some over 50s who need to update their skills and wardrobe and attitude. But that is true of individuals in every generation. The problem is systemic–rooted in cultural stereotypes perpetuated by the media, the fashion and entertainment industries and HR and recruiting professionals. Until there is a major cultural shift, this issue will continue to undermine our economy and humanity.
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Matthew Glenn
October 26th, 2009
6:58 pm
What is the current demand for interns in the information technology field in Atlanta, Georgia? What are the places in Atlanta, Georgia that I can intern at?
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eric watson
October 28th, 2009
12:17 pm
good information to know.I Think it is entirely unfair for potential employers to judge you less favorably because of a long term period of being unemployed people do tend to get discouraged after a point.You come home and turn on the television watch the evening news after submitting resumes all day to see wall street once again has record earning numbers….
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Michelle
October 28th, 2009
10:44 pm
I recently had two interviews and the employers seemed shocked to here that I have been unemployed for a year. Both employers wanted to know what have I done within the past year. I expressed updating my computer skills with self training courses, while continuing my job search. The provided information does help and now my focus is on updating my resume to show volunteer work during my down time.
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The Unemployed
November 3rd, 2009
11:50 am
Oh please…people aren’t allowed to have a little down time between jobs? That’s what’s wrong with this country. Employers look at you as an “under-achiever” if you’re not up to your ears in staying busy. What is wrong with doing nothing more than brush up your skills? Afterall, when you ARE lucky enough to land a job, you’ll be humping your A$$ off because of the lean staff on hand. And chances are, you were humping before you lost your job as well. It’s a nice, long vacation…the ones they’re used to getting in Europe!!!! Not a measly 10 days!!!
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Nick Gonzalez Demendoza
November 3rd, 2009
4:18 pm
11-1-09 671,000 unemployed in GA. Let’s face it, what responsible people have done for 2 yrs. is search for employment to pay all of the bills! This is what they ahve done when employed and not at work; and during the gap when unemployed! People have filled out 400+ databases, aps., mailed resumes, etc. and been interviewed very little. Co’s. all need help; but can’t afford to pay people. For Ex: This Burlington Northern Co. deal includes much less cap. expenditures; and less people on the payroll; among other things such as efficiency, less trucks on the road, and longer trains. Plus, Asian Imports, grains to Asia from the USA, and coal as a cost effective fuel, and its tranported by rail, also. I digressed!
The GA. DOL has 391 + jobs posted, which is .05% of the jobs needed. So, 95.95% of Georgians who want a job are failed by the situation.
Labor Ready, in N. ATL./Roswell, GA. areas has 10 to 20 workers waiting on work M-Sat. with few assignments in 12 + days of sitting around 2/3+ of the time. Yet, I see 15 new office complexes and retail sites in N. Fulton County GA.
With the kind of manpower avail., we could build a pipeline, a high speed railline, a biotech health center, a Stadium, and multi-use projects.
The Infrastructure is being built in small sections of the road at a time by a few workers in heavy construction; or even smaller groups in grading, etc.
The point is this now too: If you envision it, then show Georgia that you want to employ people now.
One project, GM Doraville, is stifling much economically in N. ATL.!
The deal makers need to Partner up; so that Georgians can direct deposit their pay back into another fin. in$tit.
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The un-employed survivor
November 4th, 2009
9:33 pm
When employed I found myself struggling to pay bills. I never live beyond my means. I did not have a furtune 500 status. Guess what? Since I have been unemployed my status never changed. Must stay focused and allow life to take its course. I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH ‘THE UNEMPLOYED’ COMMENT.
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