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		<title>By: Black College Football Classics vs. NCAA Playoffs: The Debate Continues&#160;&#124;&#160;HBCU Digest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black College Football Classics vs. NCAA Playoffs: The Debate Continues&#160;&#124;&#160;HBCU Digest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 04:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a while now, but it&#8217;s good to see that the debate is fresh on the minds of mainstream media. Leo Willingham of the Atlanta-Journal Constitution weighed in on the discussion on his HBCU Football..., in a fence-riding kind of way. But his ultimate perspective is one I share. First of all, I’ve [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a while now, but it&#8217;s good to see that the debate is fresh on the minds of mainstream media. Leo Willingham of the Atlanta-Journal Constitution weighed in on the discussion on his HBCU Football&#8230;, in a fence-riding kind of way. But his ultimate perspective is one I share. First of all, I’ve [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BKRedeem</title>
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		<dc:creator>BKRedeem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what better way to get recruiting than to make the playoffs every year?! If you&#039;re not that good, get better!!!  That&#039;s the nature of any program in any conference on any level; you don&#039;t get national exposure or great revenue if you don&#039;t win.  Look at Northeastern, look at Hofstra; predominately white, predominately gone.  People, especially of the older generations, understand that your &quot;tradition&quot; means nothing to players that come from outside the SWAC; we want to win.  And to get duped to coming to a school without knowing that the best chance to win isn&#039;t available sucks.  Who wants to go to a school that isn&#039;t good AND has no chance to escape its conference?  Change the schedules so all the classics and conference championships can get in BEFORE THE PLAYOFFS START like any other NORMAL RIVALRY GAME on any other level, get whatever money you need to get, and give our teams a chance to go further, even if its just one every year. This doesn&#039;t make any sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what better way to get recruiting than to make the playoffs every year?! If you&#8217;re not that good, get better!!!  That&#8217;s the nature of any program in any conference on any level; you don&#8217;t get national exposure or great revenue if you don&#8217;t win.  Look at Northeastern, look at Hofstra; predominately white, predominately gone.  People, especially of the older generations, understand that your &#8220;tradition&#8221; means nothing to players that come from outside the SWAC; we want to win.  And to get duped to coming to a school without knowing that the best chance to win isn&#8217;t available sucks.  Who wants to go to a school that isn&#8217;t good AND has no chance to escape its conference?  Change the schedules so all the classics and conference championships can get in BEFORE THE PLAYOFFS START like any other NORMAL RIVALRY GAME on any other level, get whatever money you need to get, and give our teams a chance to go further, even if its just one every year. This doesn&#8217;t make any sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: BKRedeem</title>
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		<dc:creator>BKRedeem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a current player in the SWAC, it pains me to watch college football playoffs, knowing the talent on our teams is just as comparable as any team in the country position-by-position.  Sure, our teams might not have a great track record competing well in playoffs, but that&#039;s the name of the game. ALERT: MONEY IS NOT THE NAME OF THE GAME.  You play to win it all.  A conference championship, especially for prospective NFL players, is not &quot;it all&quot;; it just shows our ability to compete against each other.  What will that prospect do against another FCS school on a big stage? Guess we&#039;ll never know... we need to let the past go and compete.  We&#039;ll never know what happens if we don&#039;t try, and can&#039;t keep using past results to predict our future.  Stop making it about the school and make it about the actual team reppin the school.  We lost to PVAM, but I&#039;d even like to watch them and see what they&#039;d do.  It&#039;s a new day</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a current player in the SWAC, it pains me to watch college football playoffs, knowing the talent on our teams is just as comparable as any team in the country position-by-position.  Sure, our teams might not have a great track record competing well in playoffs, but that&#8217;s the name of the game. ALERT: MONEY IS NOT THE NAME OF THE GAME.  You play to win it all.  A conference championship, especially for prospective NFL players, is not &#8220;it all&#8221;; it just shows our ability to compete against each other.  What will that prospect do against another FCS school on a big stage? Guess we&#8217;ll never know&#8230; we need to let the past go and compete.  We&#8217;ll never know what happens if we don&#8217;t try, and can&#8217;t keep using past results to predict our future.  Stop making it about the school and make it about the actual team reppin the school.  We lost to PVAM, but I&#8217;d even like to watch them and see what they&#8217;d do.  It&#8217;s a new day</p>
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		<title>By: james grisby</title>
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		<dc:creator>james grisby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: james grisby</title>
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		<dc:creator>james grisby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would like to enter in the online contest please may i have information thank you.</description>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HBCU&#039;s have been selectively excluded from the playoffs.  Grambling and Southern removed themselves when the NCAA changed the playoff schedules and that change conflicted with the Bayou Classic.  Do the math regarding revenue. Why was the rest of the league denied?  Since 1978, I know of only two times that an HBCU has hosted a playoff game.  One time TSU and SCSU were allowed in the playoffs, they played each other.  One year SCSU was 10-1 and denied participation.  And, the beat goes on.  It is clear that the NCAA accepts membership fees from HBCUs but denies them equtable participation in its playoff system.

It is my opinion that HBCUs develop a system of classics and further build their programs.  As Charlie Neal said during this year&#039;s MVU/Alcorn game, &quot;there are more Black players from HBCUs in the NFL Hall of Fame than there are in the NCAA Football Hall of Fame.&quot;  Do you smell something here?  I think this is systematic exclusion and should be addressed.  In the meantime, why don&#039;t we do our own thing? There have been IAA championship games with less that a 10,000 fan attendance.  Grambling and Souther draw more than that for the Friday-before-the-game battle of the bands.

Let&#039;s wake up and say, &quot;NCAA, forget you!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HBCU&#8217;s have been selectively excluded from the playoffs.  Grambling and Southern removed themselves when the NCAA changed the playoff schedules and that change conflicted with the Bayou Classic.  Do the math regarding revenue. Why was the rest of the league denied?  Since 1978, I know of only two times that an HBCU has hosted a playoff game.  One time TSU and SCSU were allowed in the playoffs, they played each other.  One year SCSU was 10-1 and denied participation.  And, the beat goes on.  It is clear that the NCAA accepts membership fees from HBCUs but denies them equtable participation in its playoff system.</p>
<p>It is my opinion that HBCUs develop a system of classics and further build their programs.  As Charlie Neal said during this year&#8217;s MVU/Alcorn game, &#8220;there are more Black players from HBCUs in the NFL Hall of Fame than there are in the NCAA Football Hall of Fame.&#8221;  Do you smell something here?  I think this is systematic exclusion and should be addressed.  In the meantime, why don&#8217;t we do our own thing? There have been IAA championship games with less that a 10,000 fan attendance.  Grambling and Souther draw more than that for the Friday-before-the-game battle of the bands.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s wake up and say, &#8220;NCAA, forget you!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, HBCU should compete for national title. I think when JSU competing for a national title and the SWAC our program went down. We used to always get good skills players on offense and defense, our only weakneass was the offense line and the kicking game when we played the other FCA teams. All that needs to happen is to get the FCA to start the playoffs one week later and break the teams into regionals for the first round then go by seed for the next round. HBCU must start competing to be the best not just the best HBCU. In my opinion we have lower our standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, HBCU should compete for national title. I think when JSU competing for a national title and the SWAC our program went down. We used to always get good skills players on offense and defense, our only weakneass was the offense line and the kicking game when we played the other FCA teams. All that needs to happen is to get the FCA to start the playoffs one week later and break the teams into regionals for the first round then go by seed for the next round. HBCU must start competing to be the best not just the best HBCU. In my opinion we have lower our standard.</p>
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		<title>By: GaRattler</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaRattler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Under coach Billy Joe, FAMU moved the Florida Classic so that they could compete in the 1AA playoffs.  That was one of the best moves that he could have done, because the Classic actually got bigger.  The Florida Classic competes, and in some years has exceeded the attendance at the Bayou Classic.   The purpose of having different divisions in college football is that it allows schools with similar resources to compete on a national level.   The only way that we can compete for resources is compete on a national level.  If you compete and win you will get the same recruits that a Ga Southern or an Appalachian state gets.  It seems that most HBCUs settle for the status quo and with that mind set we will always have second rate athletic programs.  There were several Southern teams in the mid/early &#039;90s that would have competed for the 1-AA championship.  My argument is purely academic because they chose the Bayou Classic over the 1-AA playoffs.  I always tell my Southern and Grambling that the Bayou Classic will draw a large crowd even if the game was held in the middle of July.  It&#039;s the game, the Classic, that everyone is attached, not the date.  I am actually supporting a FAMU (with BCC) move to the Southern Conference.  It costs us too much money to travel to play non-competitive schools such as Winston Salem State, Howard, NC A&amp;T, and Morgan State.  We will make more money in the long run by building our fan base in Tallahassee. The schools in the Southern Conference are more competitive and are closer to Tallahassee.  We still can play TSU and BCC in two of the top classics in HBCU football.....Bottom line TRADITION does not pay the bills or put fans in the seats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Under coach Billy Joe, FAMU moved the Florida Classic so that they could compete in the 1AA playoffs.  That was one of the best moves that he could have done, because the Classic actually got bigger.  The Florida Classic competes, and in some years has exceeded the attendance at the Bayou Classic.   The purpose of having different divisions in college football is that it allows schools with similar resources to compete on a national level.   The only way that we can compete for resources is compete on a national level.  If you compete and win you will get the same recruits that a Ga Southern or an Appalachian state gets.  It seems that most HBCUs settle for the status quo and with that mind set we will always have second rate athletic programs.  There were several Southern teams in the mid/early &#8217;90s that would have competed for the 1-AA championship.  My argument is purely academic because they chose the Bayou Classic over the 1-AA playoffs.  I always tell my Southern and Grambling that the Bayou Classic will draw a large crowd even if the game was held in the middle of July.  It&#8217;s the game, the Classic, that everyone is attached, not the date.  I am actually supporting a FAMU (with BCC) move to the Southern Conference.  It costs us too much money to travel to play non-competitive schools such as Winston Salem State, Howard, NC A&amp;T, and Morgan State.  We will make more money in the long run by building our fan base in Tallahassee. The schools in the Southern Conference are more competitive and are closer to Tallahassee.  We still can play TSU and BCC in two of the top classics in HBCU football&#8230;..Bottom line TRADITION does not pay the bills or put fans in the seats.</p>
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		<title>By: GRAMBLING</title>
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		<dc:creator>GRAMBLING</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I HAVE READ ALOT OF COMMENTS AND THOUGHT HEAVY ON THEM AND HEAR IT IS. I ATTENDED GRAMBLING STATE UNIVERSIYT, BORN AND RAISED IN THE HEART OF LINCOLN PARISH IN NORTH LOUISIANA. UNDERSTAND THIS EDDIE ROBINSON CRETAED THE BAYOU CLASSIC FOR GRAMBLING STATE UNIVERSITY. THEY HAVE A LIFETIME CONTRACT WITH NBC TO TELEVISE THE GAME NATIONALLY. ALLSTATE CAME AND JUMPED ON AND ADDED MORE REVENUE TO THE GAME AND FOR THE SCHOOL. THE GAME WAS INITIALLY PLAYED AT TULNE STADIUM BECAUSE OF RACE ISSUES AND TO SEE IF COACH EDDIE ROBINSON HAD WHAT IT TOOK TO PUT TOGETHER A GAME OF THAT MAGNITUDE AND HE DID. THE GAME WAS A SELL OUT OF 79,000 PEOPLE MORE IN TULANES FOOTBALL HISTORY AND THE SUPERDOME OFFERED A LIFETIME CONTRACT FOR THE GAME AS WELL. THAT GAME WAS GENERATED FOR US TO HAVE FORWEVER. ALLSTAE, NEW ORLEANS SUPOERDOME COMMITTEE AND NBC REQUESTED THAT THE GAME BE PALYED ON THANKSGIVING WEEKEND FOR REVENUE PURPOSES. THAT&#039;S WHY THE CONTRACTS FOR THAT GAME IS THE WAY IT IS. THESE PEOPLE HAVE SO MUCH RESPECT FOR GRAMBLING AND ITS RICH AND DEEP HISTORY IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL IT&#039;S AMAZING. FOR THE RECORD, WHY GIVE UP WHAT&#039;S YOURS THAT YOU CREATED TO BE APART OF SOMEONE ELSES, THEY ARE NOT DOING IT FOR YOU. THINK ABOUT IT!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I HAVE READ ALOT OF COMMENTS AND THOUGHT HEAVY ON THEM AND HEAR IT IS. I ATTENDED GRAMBLING STATE UNIVERSIYT, BORN AND RAISED IN THE HEART OF LINCOLN PARISH IN NORTH LOUISIANA. UNDERSTAND THIS EDDIE ROBINSON CRETAED THE BAYOU CLASSIC FOR GRAMBLING STATE UNIVERSITY. THEY HAVE A LIFETIME CONTRACT WITH NBC TO TELEVISE THE GAME NATIONALLY. ALLSTATE CAME AND JUMPED ON AND ADDED MORE REVENUE TO THE GAME AND FOR THE SCHOOL. THE GAME WAS INITIALLY PLAYED AT TULNE STADIUM BECAUSE OF RACE ISSUES AND TO SEE IF COACH EDDIE ROBINSON HAD WHAT IT TOOK TO PUT TOGETHER A GAME OF THAT MAGNITUDE AND HE DID. THE GAME WAS A SELL OUT OF 79,000 PEOPLE MORE IN TULANES FOOTBALL HISTORY AND THE SUPERDOME OFFERED A LIFETIME CONTRACT FOR THE GAME AS WELL. THAT GAME WAS GENERATED FOR US TO HAVE FORWEVER. ALLSTAE, NEW ORLEANS SUPOERDOME COMMITTEE AND NBC REQUESTED THAT THE GAME BE PALYED ON THANKSGIVING WEEKEND FOR REVENUE PURPOSES. THAT&#8217;S WHY THE CONTRACTS FOR THAT GAME IS THE WAY IT IS. THESE PEOPLE HAVE SO MUCH RESPECT FOR GRAMBLING AND ITS RICH AND DEEP HISTORY IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL IT&#8217;S AMAZING. FOR THE RECORD, WHY GIVE UP WHAT&#8217;S YOURS THAT YOU CREATED TO BE APART OF SOMEONE ELSES, THEY ARE NOT DOING IT FOR YOU. THINK ABOUT IT!!!</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 13:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BET should show hbcu games  and help support it  i would love to see it on tv alot more</description>
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