Black College football powers to meet

For those who’ve wanted to see the top two Black College football teams square off, you’ll get your chance in September.

South Carolina State will face Grambling State in the fifth annual MEAC/SWAC Challenge Sept. 6 at the Florida Citrus Bowl in Orlando. The Sunday night event, presented by Disney, will be televised by ESPN2.

South Carolina State won last year’s MEAC title with an unbeaten conference record, advanced to the Football Championship Subdivision (formerly Division I-AA) playoffs and finished 13th in the final FCS rankings. Grambling finished 2008 with an 11-2 record, the SWAC title and the Black College championship.

And yes, SCSU was ranked second behind Grambling in the final Black College poll.

So, what are your thoughts on the big matchup to open the 2009 season? And if for some reason you don’t think that Grambling and SCSU are the best Black College football teams, let me hear your choice and why it (or they) should be on top.

Let the debate begin ….

44 comments Add your comment

Tyger

March 13th, 2009
10:57 am

I cant think of two better teams right now in HBCU football. But on another note, does anybody have any opinions on the next HBCU coaching great? Historically there have been some heroes, but who’s would qualify today? Did the Eddie Robinson, Willie Jeffries, Doug Porter trees sprought any roots?

Joe Taylor, Alonzo Lee, Kermit Blount? The latter two from the Willie Jeffries tree. Who was the guy at Bethune with the white leisure suit?

lwillingham

March 13th, 2009
11:22 am

Tyger,
The guy at Bethune-Cookman, Alvin Wyatt, has been around for many years and has fielded some pretty good teams. As for the coaches, I’d start by looking at the leaders of the top two HBCU programs. Rod Broadway brought plenty of D-I experience to Grambling while Buddy Pough apparently knows the state of South Carolina like the back of his hand and spent some time with one of my favorite coaches of all-time – Lou Holtz.
There are a couple of good coaches over here in the A – Rich Freeman at Morehouse and Ted Bahhur at Clark Atlanta.

Tyger

March 13th, 2009
3:03 pm

Is there anyone close to dynasty levels of Robinson, Jeffries, Porter? Are those days a thing of the past?

lwillingham

March 13th, 2009
3:09 pm

Legitimate question for sure. Would like to think there are potential dynasties out there, but in this world of instant gratification that we live in, is there enough patience among administrators to give coaches a chance to be in one place for a long time?

Michelle

March 13th, 2009
3:51 pm

ROAD TRIP :)

I’m ready so if anyone is planning a bus trip/road trip/trip just let me know ;)

R.Best

March 13th, 2009
5:22 pm

How about Bill Hayes former coach at WSSU, NCA&T State Univ and now AD at Floida A&M produced some great in N.C.

Get Real

March 13th, 2009
5:47 pm

Off topic, I would love to see Morehouse/Clark square off in the dome once a year. The matchup is always a thing of ‘beauty’ for the fans, I mean that literally. A lot of people would show up.

Big Fella

March 13th, 2009
6:07 pm

JSU Tiger always representing…….

Cliff Rutledge

March 13th, 2009
6:31 pm

Glad to have you there giving information on HBC. We broaadcast High school football and will aways make references to Black teamd and your paper and articles are great sources of information. Keep it coming.

12kyle

March 14th, 2009
12:31 pm

I am an alum of South Carolina State and I’m glad that we’re playing against Grambling. I’m looking forward to the game.

I think you can’t ignore the legacy that Joe Taylor has established. He put Hampton football on the map. He will do the same at Florida A&M.

I think it will be tough to see coaches do what Willie Jeffries and Eddie Robinson did. I played for Jeffries in the early 90s and he was a great coach and role model. There is tremendous pressure to win at HBCUs right now. I don’t know if the schools would keep a coach for 10 or 20 yrs.

Reg Watkins

March 14th, 2009
12:42 pm

Undoubtably, you guys do not know about Jake Gaither from Florida A&M and Big John Merritt from Tennessee State. Any tree root sprouts for up and coming coaches would have to sprig from these two coaches as Gaither’s Blood, Sweat, and Tears teams and Merritt’s Big Blue Tiger teams were some of the best in HBCU football. Add Florida A&M to the list of teams to watch next year with Joe Taylor at the helm.

CG SAMUEL

March 14th, 2009
12:51 pm

I THINK THIS IS GOING TO A GREAT MATCHUP. GRAMBLING IS GOING TO FIND OUT WHY SC STATE WAS RANKED 13TH IN THE FINAL D-IAA POLL. THE BATTLE OF THE BANDS IS WORTH THE PRICE OF ADMISSION ALONE. IN THE WORDS OF THE LATE GREAT MARVIN GAYE,”LET’S GET IT ON”

Walt Bee

March 14th, 2009
12:57 pm

I think any national exposure for HBCU football is great. It should be an entertaining game. I think you have to throw Willie Slater of Tuskegee in the equation of great coaches. Check his record. You can say what you want about being in a smaller division (Div II) but under his guidance all TU does is win.

JROCK

March 14th, 2009
1:24 pm

I believe that Grambling State and SCSU are currently the two marquis programs in BCF. It will be a good match up and just may set the tempo for one of the two programs’ season.

I believe it would be very difficult for any current coach to reach the heights of an Eddie Robinson in this day and age. However, BCF has quite a few coaches currently that have enjoyed extremely good tenures at their respective schools. A few examples of these coaches are Pete Richardson of Southern U, Joe Taylor of FAMU (former Hampton U coach) and Rod Broadway of Grambling State (former NCCU coach). Coach Comegy of Jackson State also have had formidable success (former Tuskegee coach). Odd enough, all of the aforementioned coaches were part of a D-2 HBCU program in route to coaching at the FCS level.

Mr. B

March 14th, 2009
1:57 pm

willingham, You couldn’t have said it any better! All of sports in every level is going to have this problem of trying to find the next legacy. For HBCU’s.. We have to deal with the “having too much success” factor too.. Meaning as soon as you have the program winning and advancing in the playoffs for a couple of years, the BIG programs WILL come sniffing around with their big bucks and big facilities to make it extremely difficult to stick around.

Oh well.. I will still Hope that my U (the REAL, HU) will be back on top of the MEAC soon! The last few years of finish less than first have been painful!! lol

Satchel Kelly

March 14th, 2009
2:28 pm

That’s cool…I am sure it will be a great game. However the main reason I will be going is to see the bands, especially The Champagne Dancers of SCSU!

GADAWG

March 14th, 2009
2:32 pm

When will the SWAC Championship Game finally be cancelled and the Bayou Classic rescheduled? They serve very little purpose and prevent really good SWAC Teams from going to the playoffs.

qdog2

March 14th, 2009
3:09 pm

When you mentioncurrent successful HBCU coaches and legendary or Dynasty status the conversation begins and ends with Pete Richardson at Southern University in Baton Rouge, LA

Chesare S. Horton

March 14th, 2009
4:28 pm

As a graduate of GSU, I am so excited that this game has been scheduled for the top two teams in Black College Football to square off; and on television at that! Go GRAMBLING!

Hubbard

March 14th, 2009
5:17 pm

What about Williard Bailey currently at St. Paul’s College. Won CIAA championships with Virginia Union and Norfolk State.

MBC

March 14th, 2009
6:47 pm

The Willie Jefferies tree, you have the late Bill Davis who lead Sav. State back to greatness and also current Bulldog coach Oliver ‘Buddy’ Pugh.

I wish more of our black kids would go back to our schools!!!!

js3atl

March 14th, 2009
6:49 pm

Pete Richardson at Southern. Three Black Natinal Championships, Beat Grambling at least 7 consecutive years … SCSU also a number of years. SWAC is where its at.

Erik B

March 14th, 2009
7:12 pm

That would be a cool match up…But there really isn’t any competition without FAMU in the house!

KimaniKing

March 15th, 2009
6:52 am

I believe Tuskegee has a strong argument for being in this top two. Tuskegee completed an undefeated season in 2007. Then followed that season with a 10-1 season in 2008. I understand that SIAC is divison two. But here is my argument. Tuskegee loss to Alabama State (Swac) on a bad call. And the ref was permanently banned from games in the conference. If this would not have happened, Tuskegee would have been undefeated beating 2 SWAC teams. Obviously you know where I went to school.:)

Ike

March 15th, 2009
7:35 am

I believe this a great match-up between two great HBCU college football teams. This could be the beginning of a great rivalry if both teams continue to dominate in their conferences.

Jpeezy

March 15th, 2009
8:29 am

S.C. State got a raw deal from the pollsters last year…clearly the best team in Black College Football. The only losses for the Bulldogs were to U. of Central Florida, Clemson, and App. State (defending FCS Champions). As for future coaching legends, Buddy Pough (who played for and subsequently coached with Willie Jeffries) is rebuilding the Bulldog Dynasty. A former All-MEAC performer himself, he has been and continues to be an ambassador for S.C.S.U., the MEAC, and the entire coaching profession. Go BULLDOGS!!!

Tyger

March 15th, 2009
10:33 am

And vice-versa, where in HBCU-land does a President last more than 5-10 years? That turnover at the top leads to turnover everywhere. But the outcome is the same, today’s HBCU coaches dont have the longevity of the Eddie Robinsons, Willie Jeffries or Doug Porters.

I guess the bigger question is, if any of todays HBCU coaches achieved the success of those predecessors, would they even stay?

kurt henry

March 15th, 2009
3:02 pm

go bulldogs!!! the Meac owns the swac in football matchups…

kurt henry

March 15th, 2009
3:07 pm

as a former DB for south carolina state, under coach willie jefferies, I’m sick of the NFL and most of the nation disrespecting HBCU’s, when we are by far more talented or just as talented as the guys in your so call BCS programs.. Apparently the football fans in America forgot that in the 60s, 70s, and early 80s, half of the players in the NFL came from black schools.

Barry

March 15th, 2009
5:17 pm

Hey Y’all:

I wish they would of had this game last year when
Delaware State University (DSU) won the MEAC with an undefeated record and advanced to the Division I-AA playoff. DSU would have kicked Gramblings butt. Nevertheless, the current MEAC champions are well deserving to represent the MEAC against the SWAC next football season. I am more than confident that South Carolina State University will take Grambling to the “woodshed”. Any MEAC champion look forward to the challenge with at positive out come of MEAC as the winner.

GO MEAC. GO DELAWARE STATE UNIVERSITY HORNETS!!!!

GOOD LUCK, SOUTH CAROLINA STATE UNIVERSITY BULLDOGS!!!!!

Ringold

Bookert T.

March 15th, 2009
6:03 pm

It’s good to see both HBCU major conferences get early preseason hype. Hopefully, the hype is justified with solid team play and great sportsmanship!

Texas Southern University (SWAC)

Andre'

March 15th, 2009
6:09 pm

Wow…my Alma Mater SC State getting play on the AJC?

JGM

March 15th, 2009
6:54 pm

The potential for dynasties such as the one of Coach Robinson’s at Gram is not likely. There are different dynamics in play today when recruiting players out of high school.

mullgrav

March 15th, 2009
9:42 pm

I would like to see more spotlight on ALL HBCU’s.

TigerAlum

March 16th, 2009
2:29 am

I have to say that coaching legends may be no more. Doug Williams was on the right track but left after just nine seasons. Coaches nowadays are too eager to climb up to a bigger program instead of building the one they left behind. Also, administrations are too quick to pull the trigger on a coach that can’t produce bowl wins or .800 seasons consistently. I don’t think we’ll ever see a Bryant or Robinson ever again.

EddieKang48

March 16th, 2009
7:14 am

Well, I tell you this we better start introducing our kids to these great storied universities before all is lost. We have to increase interest in our schools and their sporting events.

EddieKang48

March 16th, 2009
7:18 am

I too played for Willie Jeffries in the mid 90’s. Two fingers in the air let me know you’re out there!!!!!! Bulldog Tenacity!!!!!!!!!

sunny

March 16th, 2009
7:44 am

I love any and all HBCU FOOTBALL………I WISH IT WOULD GET MORE MEDIA ATTENTION. I REALLY WISH THE HBCU’S HAD THERE OWN CABLE STATION FOR ALL THE SPORTS. I’M HOOKED ON MORGAN STATE BUT I LOVE ALL HBCU’s.
MY heart go out to ALL BLACK SCHOOLS, MAY GOD CONTINUE TO KEEP ON BLESSING THEM.

the ams(asu)

March 16th, 2009
12:35 pm

to the fans of the big teams…have some fun and don’t forget the small teams.
The fellow who love the tigers(siac)the rams is the one that play in the chall game(the big teams). Maybe oneday the tigers will feel the feeling of being in the big game at the start.
GOOD LUCK IN THE GAME (BOTH TEAMS). HAVE SOME FUN IN ORLANDO.

Larry Edwards

March 17th, 2009
4:43 pm

Hats off to SCSU. Most definitely one of the top teams in HBCU history. A big shout out to William “Bill” Hamilton, Sports Information Director at SCSU for a job well done. Go Bulldogs!!!!

FCS Power

June 24th, 2009
2:42 pm

Ok with all of the nice crap! Grambling is going to beat the piss out of South Carolina State! 35-7! The defense will be too much for SCSU!

One Striking RATTLER

August 4th, 2009
1:03 am

The coach’s coach of all HBCUs, Jake Gaither. Legendary teams at FAMU. Any discussion of HBCU that doesn’t pay respect to Jake is meaningless.

hamburger

August 12th, 2009
5:34 pm

Decatur 4 Life

August 26th, 2009
10:30 am

Southern alum- Nobody can touch us this year, Pete’s finally getting some talent back and watch out during Bayou Classic. We got Tiger stew on the menu for Thanksgivng this year

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