Atlanta Hawks: Williams ‘excited’ about return to Atlanta
Vivlamore reporting.
Marvin Williams returns to Atlanta Friday as a member of the Jazz. The Hawks‘ first-round pick, No. 2 overall in 2005, was traded in the offseason after spending his first seven seasons in the organization. Although he won’t play due to inflammation in his right knee, Williams spoke to the AJC about the trade, his time in Atlanta and what kind of reception he might receive.
Q. What are your thoughts about coming back to Atlanta?
A. I’m really, really excited. A lot of those guys I haven’t seen or talked to since last season. Just to get a chance to get back to the city and see a lot of the people in the organization, see a lot of my friends, and I’m excited to get back there.
Q. It’s hard to keep in contact with people as an NBA player. You forge relationships and after such a transition you leave it all behind. Has that been hard?
A. It was difficult for me this summer to hear about the trade. You make friends with guys and you become close to people in the organization, people around the city. It’s like you are here today and gone tomorrow. With trades, I do understand the business. It happens in the NBA. I’ve seen guys come and go as well throughout my time in Atlanta. I know trades do happen and sometimes it ends up like that.
Q. Did the trade catch up by surprise?
A. I can’t necessarily say I was expecting it. I think anytime anybody is traded they are always surprised. It was just one of those things where I was working out and a couple of buddies of mine had told me they heard I got traded. During the summer time there are always rumors going around so I really didn’t pay too much attention. When I got done working out I had a couple voice mails from Rick Sund, my agent. I called Rick Sund back and he expressed to me that I may see it on TV or on Twitter but that I was going to be traded so he wanted to let me know firsthand. I greatly appreciated that. They did everything first class. They were awesome about the whole situation. When I got back to my house, I saw across the bottom of the (TV) screen that I got traded to Utah.
Q. It was Rick Sund who called you? Not Danny Ferry?
A. Actually Danny was on the line as well. I figured Rick reached out to me because he already knew me. I had never met Danny Ferry personally. I didn’t get a chance to speak to him when he got the job.
Q. What are your reflections about your time in Atlanta?
A. I had an absolute blast, man. Looking back on it since I have been gone, I had an absolute blast. The organization, the city, took care of me and watched me grow. You know I was 19 years old when I first got drafted and left when I was 26. I grew into a man before their eyes. As a basketball player, I became a better player each year. My memories of Atlanta I will never forget. I will be forever grateful to that organization for giving me an opportunity to live my dream.
Q. What kind of reaction to you think you might get from the crowd?
A. I don’t know. I guess I haven’t really thought too much about it, to be honest. I’ve always loved Atlanta fans. They’ve always come out and shown their support. They’ve always voiced their opinion. They’ve seen my good days. They’ve seen my bad days. I guess at the end of the day I hope they know that I really did appreciate playing for those guys.
Q. How disappointing is it to return but not get a chance to play?
A. Very, very, very. You get a chance to play against your old team and go back get a chance to play in front of some of the fans that liked you once again. I’ve been going through this knee thing for the last few weeks and it’s been tough. It’s disappointing that I won’t be able to play but at the end of the day I am a member of the Utah Jazz and I have to do what’s best for this organization.
Q. How is life in Utah? How is this new part of your career going?
A. I like it. When I first got traded to Utah my first thought was ‘I don’t know what I’m going to do in Utah.’ I had never spent much time there at all. We would fly in with Atlanta, get in at 1 or 2 in the morning, play the next night and leave. I never spent much time there. The people in Utah, the community, the fans, the people in the organization, everybody has been such a huge help. They’ve made me feel so comfortable since I touched down and I’m really enjoying it out there.
- Chris Vivlamore
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vava74
January 10th, 2013
11:20 am
KK is a disciplined defender who lacks the physical skills to defend man to man well.
Usually he gets on the right spots and at least does not misses defensive rotations, etc.
That does not make him a good defender, merely a reliable team defender/player who will not be able to check out premier/top grade offensive talents (PP, Lebron, Granger, …), hence, on a playoff team, it makes him a BENCH player.
Lou is an erratic player and that is on BOTH ends of the floor.
There are games in which is puts better effort on D than others and there are match ups in which he is able to give sufficient/acceptable opposition and others in which he doesn’t.
Slimjr
January 10th, 2013
11:20 am
A sign of desperation:
Coach Drew calling out his team as playing SOFT publicly..
He may have loss them.. They do not appear to be responding.
Slimjr
January 10th, 2013
11:23 am
Hey Danny now your BIGS are being exposed for who they really are? Hmmmm
Your guards apparently can’t carry them anymore?
Heck they cant carry themselves..Oh the Humanity…
Slimjr
January 10th, 2013
11:23 am
Marvin Williams= zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Slimjr
January 10th, 2013
11:24 am
Marvin would have to pay me to watch him ball..
Better entertainment down at the local gym….
hfc95
January 10th, 2013
11:26 am
A few trade ideas
Horford($12M) Morrow ($4M) to PHOX for Gortat($7.2M) Beasley($5.8M) Telfair($1.6M)
Our lineup- Jeff Lou Beasley Josh Gortat
super deep bench-d.harris korver, jj2, zaza, ivan, telfair, stevson
Devin ($8.5M) Petro ($3.5M) & our two 1sts to SAC for Cousins($3.8M) Salmons($8M)
Since SAC will more than likely go to SEA they may be willing to shed a bad contract in salmons and ship out Cousins and look to rebuild fresh in a new city with receiving expiring contracts and having an extra 2 1sts to rebuild a dynasty in the northwest
Lineup-Jeff Korver Josh AL Cousins
Bench Lou, jj2, stevson, salmons, Ivan, Zaza
I also think we take the risk on cousins. he is 22 and the best offensive big in the league and he has played on a team with no help or leaders and has still been awesome(off court/locker room incidents aside). He needs to be on a playoff team and I think his attitude would greatly change. Also he is from Bama and maybe being closer to home would help as well.
Im not over reacting to our recent skid, I have said before the season we will make the playoffs regardless if we stay at 3 or slide to 6. We need a shakeup and I doubt we land any big time FA next summer even with our cap room. GM DF needs to make a move to get a guy soon otherwise I see slim pickins for us this summer. I think we end up like dallas with a lot of new role players and stay mediocre if we dont make a proactive move for a big time guy.
Rod from College Park
January 10th, 2013
11:31 am
“Only difference is Grandad blamed Josh for (I guess) not being assertive, and Vava blames Lou for not initiating offense & LD for what he considers a bad lineup combination.”
Sounds totally different to me.
“Marvin would have to pay me to watch him ball..
Better entertainment down at the local gym….”
If I was playing at Run & Shoot back in the summers and Marvin was standing on the sideline wanting to run, I would pick somebody else. Real talk.
Grandad
January 10th, 2013
11:31 am
All-Right Rod f C.P. follow along:
vava @ 3:59 am on 09/10/13
““Al (-2) Josh (-13)
“Nearly that entire difference comes from the end of the 3rd quarter,
when the Cavs went on a run after LD took Al out in favor of Jenkins
(who didn’t play well today).
Plus/minus numbers can say a lot of things
if you take them out of context (kind of like every other stat).”
vava was discussing the (+/-) stat … sir … to put it in context
That was what my whole rationale was to begin with !
How he should have feasted within that personnel grouping.
And he dang well should have !
Blame who the heck you wish;
Blame blasted BillyKnight I don`t care.
Lou, Korv, JJenkins Shoud open the middle for somebody
who wants to SCORE INSIDE ! By Golly !
_____________________________________________
I proceded to follow vava`s posts and if I ripped anyone it was
TEAGUE.
For lack of defense !
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
January 10th, 2013
11:41 am
Thanks Vava. I just find that sometimes I cannot see what I am typing
FIRE LD
Grandad
January 10th, 2013
11:43 am
Continuing with Rod;
1st of all I don`t wear panties;
If `n I wear anything at all it would be drawers.
____________________________________________
Josh blocked 6 shots last nite.
I made the statement;
partially directed at Slimjr;
-paraphrase-
We should not blame our bigs so much for not
blocking enough shots,
`cause there are so many shots at the rim.
Our guards can`t guard beans.
I have been on Teague more than anyone if you would notice !
But No;
You must protect Josh from any perceived slight.
____________________________________________
I have already stated Al showed up for 1 Qtr last eve then disappeared.
You do not ever say anything but what you wish to take out of context.
Grandad
January 10th, 2013
11:46 am
Let`s go Rod;
follow vava`s line of reasoning on the (+/-) stat
and comment.
Put something into context w/o diving into the shallow end
before checking for depth.
Slimjr
January 10th, 2013
11:47 am
“THE SHIP BE SINKING” -Knick Two Guard-
Update:
The Hawks have been passed by Indiana and Chicago in the Conference standings while losing 5 of the last 6 games played. They are currently a 5th seed and sliding fast.
The Nets should pass them by Monday if not sooner, being only a half game back in the standings. The Nets are red hot now with their new coach at 6-1 on a 4 game winning streak..The Bucks are only 2.5 games back and Boston is only 3 games behind.. Boston will catch them by the end of the month if not sooner..
Grandad
January 10th, 2013
11:50 am
“Only difference is Grandad blamed Josh for * (I guess)
not being assertive, and Vava blames Lou
for not initiating offense & LD for what he considers
a bad lineup combination.”
* Sounds totally different to me.
___________________________________________
Thats you Rod:
” I guess & it sounds ”
Nothing clear and concrete, no facts.
master of conjecture, out of context !
Rod from College Park
January 10th, 2013
11:56 am
“Josh blocked 6 shots last nite.
I made the statement;
partially directed at Slimjr;
-paraphrase-
We should not blame our bigs so much for not
blocking enough shots,
`cause there are so many shots at the rim.
Our guards can`t guard beans.”
So if there are so many shots to block at the rim, because are guards can’t guard, is not not the responsibility of the bigs to HELP an protect the rim, or was Josh just being the lone ranger and doing that on his own. Hell Zaza even had a block. Al Horford-0 blocks, 1 foul, 0 free throws, but your response is Josh should have been more assertive and attacked the paint. If he did that he would obviously be doing something different than the coach is telling them to do, because not one of our bigs attacked the paint after the first quarter. This team lives and dies by the jumper, we see that every night.
Chris Vivlamore
January 10th, 2013
11:59 am
What’s a troll? Someone who posts more than 30 times as 11 different people between 10:20 p.m. and 1:14 a.m. Oh wait, all those posts are gone. See ya troll!
Ryder
January 10th, 2013
11:59 am
No surprise here, I said from the jump that the Hawks were 7th or 8th seeded talent, which isn’t all bad considering they are in a rebuilding stage. LD better start worrying more about their poor offensive output or he will be on the outside looking in come July.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 10th, 2013
12:10 pm
Haha @ the unbridled enthusiasm C-Viv shows when dispatching trolls.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
January 10th, 2013
12:11 pm
If we can’t beat Detroit or Cleveland, we can’t beat anyone. We could lose the next 40
Rod from College Park
January 10th, 2013
12:19 pm
“If we can’t beat Detroit or Cleveland, we can’t beat anyone. We could lose the next 40″
When the jumpers are falling we can beat anyone, we they are not we could lose to anyone. Problem is the jumpers usually don’t fall in the playoffs which means well you know what it means.
James Nales
January 10th, 2013
12:25 pm
Wish you well, but glad you are no longer a Hawk. Things I looked for you to do like be a strong rebounder, go to the hoop with the ball, rarely happened
Grandad
January 10th, 2013
12:37 pm
Rod
Where are the quotes around the statement attributed to me;
but your response is:
Josh should have been more assertive and attacked the paint ?
Oh there are none.
Because I did not say that, and you know I did not.
Quit changing my words.
My initial statement was about (+/-) stat regarding
vava`s original post.
I was very clear in explaining that.
I stand by my statement:
If Josh is in with Lou, KK, & JJ;
spreading the floor / [spacing] Josh *’`should`’*
have a field day inside.
If he wishes.
If LD wishes.
If they pass him the ball.
If he makes his shots.
If he actually posts up.
If he runs from the def end to the offensive end of the floor.
If he catches the ball.
If Hell does not freeze over.
If Hell does freeze over.
Unless Ivan kicks his ass out and does it himself !
vava74
January 10th, 2013
12:38 pm
Grandad,
I stated FACTS that show you that all that you said about Teague and Lou on that post was bullsh!t.
Teague has been disappointing but Irving went on a tear ON LOU scoring at least 12 of his 18 third quarter points during the 3 minutes which Teague was not on the floor.
Remember, you stated that Lou was someone who defended better than Teague!!
THESE ARE FACTS
Also, if you have Lou playing PG, 7 or 8 out of 10 games in which that happens you’ll see that the offense is dead.
It’s not Lou’s fault, it’s LD’s.
On the contrary, 7 or 8 times out of 10, Teague will do a DECENT job finding the open man and using his dribble penetration to find the open man.
Lou is not incapable of doing it, simply it’s not his game and when you mess with someone’s game and try to make it different, you better know exactly what you are doing and BE CONSISTENT and not helter skelter about it since that will only give you the worst of that player can give you.
Same sh!t happened with Jamal who LD insisted in playing at the PG slot with ALWAYS the same result against quality teams.
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Grandad
January 10th, 2013
12:42 pm
The defensive stats you mentioned were out of context with
the alternate narrative.
You asked that I say something about Al;
I did.
You, flipped the context, once again.
Try and stay with one line of discourse at a time.
Otherwise;
someone may confuse you to be a politician
-or worse-
a republican !
vava74
January 10th, 2013
12:43 pm
Grandad,
How could Josh have a field day inside if Lou does not know how to man an offense and does not pass the rock?
HOW?
Lou spent those 3 minutes looking for his shot and having trouble even dribbling the ball passed the half court.
Astro Joe
January 10th, 2013
12:46 pm
C-Viv, talking smack to the troll. You Go, Boy!
Grandad
January 10th, 2013
12:57 pm
vava;
What in tarnation are you saying.
This is my original Post !
Please Point out The B.S.
I never contradicted one word you said in your entire post
other than to say That Line-up *’`Should`’* have been good for Josh.
____________________________________________
Lou, KK & JJ together is a wonderful line-up
for Josh to excel.
*{{Your point about defense notwithstanding}}.
The three guards you mentioned [playing together]
are not any worse than any other set of guards we have.
Teague has quit playing def for all practical purposes.
JJ & KK are well suited to team defense,
stay in position well, they are just not going to overwhelm
anyone with pressure.
** {{ Also Lou defends th pg pos
at a much higher proficiency than the [2] }}
* {{My overall point;
that line-up *’`should`’* have opened up the lane for Josh
to have a freakin` field day inside}} !
Did he take advantage ? {{ NO }}
**{{ and Yes I See Your Point }} !
Please see my overall point;
which is not to extoll the virtue of three defenders,
but to reveal the opportunity Josh had and failed to see.
** {{ Where was Josh / Was He Posted Callin g For The Ball }}
*** {{ I Do Not Know }}
2nd Qtr same outfit;
Josh took three jump shots.
*{{ FACT }} !
____________________________________________
** {{ Please Note the Following Statement }} !
*{{ Also understand that I see your overall point as well.}}
Slimjr
January 10th, 2013
12:58 pm
Scary when your perimeter defense starts to look like Bibby at the point of attack two years ago and add that your 5/4[The Matrix] has lost perhaps a step…
Have they not taken steps backwards?.. Wheres ios when ya need him? lol
Keith
January 10th, 2013
12:58 pm
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Greg Oden, a former No. 1 overall pick of the Portland Trail Blazers who has had his career derailed by knee injuries, has decided to make a return to the court, according to sources
Samurai Squirrel
January 10th, 2013
12:59 pm
Obviously C-viv is keeping an eye on the posts. Love the dedication!
vava74
January 10th, 2013
1:08 pm
Grandad,
WTF are you talking about? You put a completely disjointed line up on the floor and Josh is the one “missing opportunities to excel and failing to see what??”
The only thing that Josh failed to see during that period was the ball because he never got it. There was NO BALL rotation, no nothing.
It was a STUPID COMPLETELY MAKESHIFT DONE ON THE SPOT LINE UP.
I can bet that Lou, JJ2, KK, Josh and Ivan never, ever shared the court together all at the same time (even on practice) until yesterday.
That was the true expression of LD’s incompetence, NOT AN OPPORTUNITY.
Slimjr
January 10th, 2013
1:10 pm
iso*
Rod from College Park
January 10th, 2013
1:19 pm
“My overall point;
that line-up *’`should`’* have opened up the lane for Josh
to have a freakin` field day inside !
Did he take advantage ?
Please see my overall point;
which is not to extoll the virtue of three defenders,
but to reveal the opportunity Josh had and failed to see.”
What part of that is not blaming Josh? I never put words in you mouth, which you continue to say, I was responding to Just Joe. He failed to see it huh? LOL
Grandad
January 10th, 2013
1:24 pm
vava
” How could Josh have a field day inside
if Lou does not know how to man an offense
and does not pass the rock? ”
The above question was never at the center of my narrative;
nor was the fact that neither was Josh assertive.
`Though both were integral to the central question;
which I believed to be:
Josh had a -10 (+/-) stat in the 3rd Qtr and that stat
can and was deceiving.
I believe the (+/-) stat must be used in conjunction with
surrounding teammates.
I believed that to be your original point.
I was not only supporting that point but further expressing
my belief in the same.
Also, when looking at floor spacing;
in theory KK, JJ, & Lou should give us our best opportunity
to score in the post.
Looking purely from a spacing perspective.
I also made the statement that Lou defends the pg pos
better than he defends the [2] pos.
For which I will stand by that statement as well.
Everything I said was [in essence] supporting
your original premise.
If you and Rod wish to continue to debate otherwise …
enjoy your dupicitasmyopia.
Grandad
January 10th, 2013
1:27 pm
*whoops [duplicitasmyopia]
I left out the ” L ”
It is a made up word anyway.
vava74
January 10th, 2013
1:28 pm
Grandad,
What happened in those last 3 minutes of the 3rd court HAD NOTHING TO DO with what Josh did or could have done.
NOTHING.
He may do many things wrong but last night he had LITTLE responsibility for what happened.
Did he have a bad stretch where he settled for jumpshots? Sure, but that was a drop of water in the ocean. A DROP.
You can only place blame on JOSH for what happened on the 3rd quarter if you consider that he is at the level of Lebron.
vava74
January 10th, 2013
1:29 pm
And even Lebron would not have been able to stop Irvin from scoring 18 points in that quarter and in particular those last 12 points of the quarter.
Lebron on those last 3 minutes would have made little difference.
jlewis
January 10th, 2013
1:30 pm
This is the same team without JJ and Marvin, if they were the problem why are we not better. I know many hated JJ on this site, but I will make anyone a bet that over the next 3 years, the hawks will not find a 6′8 guard that can shoot it, defend his spot and play 3 positions without paying the max for. Josh soured Joe with his ability to want to play the point, always arguing calls, killing momentum. The comments of Joe passing it to Josh at the 3 point line is why Josh took so many threes, Joe’s gone, Josh is shooting more 3’s.
People argued Joe was slowing Teague’s growth, he’s worse, Al is still Al, no defense. The Hawks would have contended for a championship if they would have traded Al or Josh, this roster is still unbalanced.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 10th, 2013
1:31 pm
“I can bet that Lou, JJ2, KK, Josh and Ivan never, ever shared the court together all at the same time (even on practice) until yesterday.”
This is correct. In fact Ivan has only been on the court with both Lou and Jenkins at the same time for 8 minutes this season until last night.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 10th, 2013
1:32 pm
^Make that 14 minutes.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 10th, 2013
1:34 pm
“And even Lebron would not have been able to stop Irvin from scoring 18 points in that quarter and in particular those last 12 points of the quarter.
Lebron on those last 3 minutes would have made little difference.”
Here I don’t agree. Ball pressure makes a huge difference. Teague was slicing and dicing the Celtics in the first half and then was completely taken out of the game in the 2nd half when Avery Bradley started pressuring him. Irving is a better player, but at the very least, ball pressure would have made it tougher for him to initiate the offense. Teague is easily capable of pressuring, at least every now and then, and the Hawks should probably use him more in that role.
Chris Vivlamore
January 10th, 2013
1:35 pm
New blog posted. Rivers calls ’sour grapes’ on Ferry.
Grandad
January 10th, 2013
1:47 pm
Once again Rod;
pick out one statement out of context.
Yes,
Just Joe did say that.
Did you quote Just Joe ?
Was it in quotes ?
No – you referred it to me.
I said I stand by that statement.
Did Josh fail to see the opportunity ?
You tell me.
Did he Post up stongly and call for the ball ?
You tell me ?
There was no blame.
Why are you so into putting blame onto everything ?
Can a person make an observation w/o vilifying someone ?
_____________________________________________
Quit jumping around Rod;
stick to one item at a time and stay in context.
Random quotes, this and that, here and there, hither and yon.
____________________________________________
Rod;
if I said:
player X has the basketball IQ of a Border Collie ?
*Would that be a negative statement ?
*Would that be a compliment ?
*Would it be insensitive ?
*Would it be mis-leading ?
*Would you be confused ?
*Would it piss you off ?
*Would it cause you to scratch your head ?
Peter
January 10th, 2013
4:33 pm
Marvin was just soft……. I saw him at the Petsmart in Sandy Springs, and thought gee does the guy even lift weights ?
I saw Rip Hamilton push him to the ground on a box out in a game.
My gosh, what is it with the ManLove for Josh Club these Days !
I have posted i think he is a coach killer… all those 3 point shots, not good at the foul line, plays way to far away from the basket…. but hey that is my opinion.
Just like I think Al is too small to play the 1…. Hubie Brown commented…….He is a body of a 4 playing the center position.
KBP
January 10th, 2013
5:05 pm
Al and Josh are too limited offensively to be cornerstone players let alone franchise players. This is a perimeter team without cornerstone (Westbrook) or franchise(Durant) perimeter players. They will fight to hold onto the 8th seed. Really think Ferry is positioning for FA’s this summer and a lottery pick. Should start Jenkins at 2 to see what he can do. I have no problem with Teague, he just needs a real 2 and a better offensive scheme. Josh is not a 3 and Al is too limited as a 4. Trade Al straight up for Gortat if Phoenix would do it. Teague, Jenkins, Stephenson, Smith, Gortat. Jenkins and Stephenson can shoot 3’s off Teague’s penetration and let Josh and Marcin do the dirty work. Lou,Zsa Zsa, Ivan, Korver, Morrow, Harris off the bench. Next season, give either Van Gundy a shot. Not a LD fan. Should have kept Woodson and gave him better talent.
Williams Boys
January 11th, 2013
7:24 am
At least Marvin isn’t the worst of the Williams boys. Sheldon “the Landlord” Williams is out of the NBA and playing in Europe. What a complete joke. Great pick Billy Knight!
Mike is Back
January 11th, 2013
10:34 am
WOW, even Marvin is looking forward to playing us.lol
At the end of the day…it comes down to coaching. Are the lineups you’re putting on the floor…giving your team the best opportunity to win games…based on your current personnel.
Also, why the heck do Zaza and Ivan have to struggle so hard to get PT?
Roy Marble
January 11th, 2013
11:54 am
Overall, I have not been disappointed in the Hawks play. There are several changes they need to consider, however. Play Ivan more- I don’t understand Drews reluctance to play him? If Teague will not push the ball more consistently, bench him for Harris. Bench Josh every time he shoots beyond 15 feet. Return Lou to the bench- we were winning more with his offense off the bench. Try to aquire a taller guard. We should still make the playoffs, but not sure about advancing..
cdog
January 11th, 2013
12:38 pm
are the hawks still playing or are they just showing up for a paycheck? thats the size of it
cdog
January 11th, 2013
1:06 pm
failure to get a center to start opposite of al hortford will doom the hawks season.they are headed to not making the playoffs if this continues which it looks as though it will.