Atlanta Hawks: Danny Ferry fined $15,000 by NBA
Vivlamore reporting.
Hawks general manager Danny Ferry was fined $15,000 by the NBA Monday for ‘inappropriate interaction’ with the game officials following Saturday’s loss to the Celtics.
The league did not reveal the reason for the penalty.
According to a person familiar with the situation, Ferry handed game officials a DVD following the 89-81 loss at Philips Arena.
As reported on the Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s web site following the game, Celtics guard Rajon Rondo made contact with game official Rodney Mott after being called for a charge with 3:19 remaining in the third quarter. Video of the incident was also detailed on NBA TV. Rondo lowered his shoulder while driving to the basket and collided with Hawks forward Josh Smith.
Rondo was not ejected for making contact with Mott. However, the league suspended Rondo for one game Monday for the incident and for a failure to cooperate with the league investigation. He will not play in Monday’s game against the Knicks.
It’s not the first time Rondo has made contact with an official in Atlanta. He was suspended for Game 2 of the Eastern Conference quarterfinals last season between the Hawks and Celtics. Rondo chest bumped referee Marc Davis with 41 seconds remaining in a Game 1 loss, earning a second technical foul and an ejection.
- Chris Vivlamore
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High-sider
January 7th, 2013
4:40 pm
1st?
High-sider
January 7th, 2013
4:41 pm
2nd?
High-sider
January 7th, 2013
4:44 pm
Rondo (is) “slam-dancin’” with the refs again.
Grandmaster JeJe
January 7th, 2013
4:46 pm
Suspend KG too. Intentionally tried to kick ZaZa. Just as bad as elbowing and what Wade did
Hawk Man
January 7th, 2013
4:48 pm
The final score of the game was 89-81, not 98-91
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
January 7th, 2013
4:49 pm
This fine is more than Sund ever did for this team. Finally we have a GM who ACTUALLY CARES
Astro Joe
January 7th, 2013
4:53 pm
Good for Danny Ferry. Dude had a copy of the video footage ready before the game ended. He probably handed it them and said “BAM”.
Film everything. Just like the New England Patriots.
wordsmithtom
January 7th, 2013
4:55 pm
Let’s see if I understand….it’s inappropriate for a GM to defend his players against thuggish behavior? The league doesn’t want its favorites sh*t exposed. Well it is and it stinks and the league stinks. Bravo Ferry for standing up to this league backed gansterism.
wordsmithtom
January 7th, 2013
4:55 pm
Let’s see if I understand….it’s inappropriate for a GM to defend his players against thuggish behavior? The league doesn’t want its favorites sh*t exposed. Well it is and it stinks and the league stinks. Bravo Ferry for standing up to this league backed gansterism.
wordsmithtom
January 7th, 2013
4:56 pm
Didn’t mean to post it twice, but maybe it should be. The league needs a house cleaning.
O'Brien
January 7th, 2013
4:57 pm
I like what I have seen from DF. Does Rick Sund know how to operate a DVD player
AJ,
And since Dwight seems concerned about team chemistry, he would fit in well with the Hawks, since we have guys who hang out together after work
Rev in Tampa
January 7th, 2013
4:57 pm
I hope the Hawks organization will be classy enough to pay Ferry’s fine because he did the right thing.
SWAT Native
January 7th, 2013
5:00 pm
Way to go, Danny! Hopefully, the DVD included some of the other questionable calls, too.
Rev in Tampa
January 7th, 2013
5:01 pm
So it’s not certain that it contained Rondo’s bump. It could have been that play when Josh was mugged three times on his way to the basket. It was an aggregeous no-call.
Astro Joe
January 7th, 2013
5:04 pm
OB, yeah. Who wants the pressure of winning titles when you can bask in the adoration of hometown fans? The honeymoon with the Lakers new roster ended in what, 5 games? Then they fired Brown. In Atlanta, the on-court results would be secondary to being at the EVENT for at least a good 60 home games. Then, someone might notice the on-court results.
Astro Joe
January 7th, 2013
5:12 pm
While I FULLY support Ferry’s efforts to share the film evidence with the officials, this will no doubt add some fuel to the next Celtics- Hawks game. It isn’t as if Ferry was protecting his players, he was essentially trying to get their player in trouble… and it worked! Surely, Doc Rivers will look to exploit that during the next game with the Hawks. LD needs to plan to start Ivan and keep him on the floor for 58 minutes (instead of going to the lockerroom for halftime, Ivan will stay on the court and just dare a Celtic to even look his way).
W.R.Terrell
January 7th, 2013
5:14 pm
DF fighting for the troops. The HAWKS finally have a General manager that is organization and team oriented. He will do quite well for the HAWKS. He is the one who will bring championship quality B. Ball to Atlanta. LD was to scared to take a technical. GO DF!!!!!!!!
High-sider
January 7th, 2013
5:52 pm
@Grandad
“One last item:
about context and staying within;
when I speak of KKorv or Cap`n Kirk defensively
I always reference their positioning within the team concept.
From a coaches eyes these traits are invaluable.” – Grandad @4:03pm, 1/7/2012 (FTPB)
You seem to always focus on (Kirk) Hinrich’s and (Kyle) Korver’s defensive fundamentals (e.g., positioning, stance, etc). Josh Smith and Jamal Crawford have “natural” athleticism that you can’t coach or teach. Where was Korver’s (defensive) positioning on Paul Pierce in the 3rd quarter of Friday night’s game when Pierce “went off” for 17 (3rd quarter) points? You do realize that Korver fouled out (essentially) guarding Pierce – right? I hope you also realize that to a “certain extent” athleticism “trumps” fundamentals (in the NBA). Because of their athleticism, Jamal Crawford and Josh Smith can perform/exhibit “certain” (offensive and defensive) maneuvers, feats, movements and/or plays that you just can’t “coach.”
“We (bloggers)” know (and understand) why you seem to always “point out” (or highlight) Korver’s and Hinrich’s (perceived) “fundamental astuteness” and “high BBIQ.”
BTW, where was Hinrich’s (defensive) positioning in the (video) clip/link provided below?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crs-QT1DERo
Slimjr
January 7th, 2013
6:07 pm
Ouch Hs. That crossover was sick!
From Hinrich’s point of view JC1’s whole body disappeared right in front of him!…. Day yum
Vesper
January 7th, 2013
6:11 pm
It was probably a DVD of bias foul calls in that game.
tony
January 7th, 2013
6:15 pm
Just an example of how much Danny Ferry cares about the city of Atlanta and the atlanta hawks. Arthur Blank and Danny Ferry are the only sports business people in the state of ga who have expressed their appreciation to the fans by making it a priority to win championships.
Rod from College Park
January 7th, 2013
6:15 pm
“We (bloggers)” know (and understand) why you seem to always “point out” (or highlight) Korver’s and Hinrich’s (perceived) “fundamental astuteness” and “high BBIQ.”
“We” Bloggers surely do. LOL. I can debate with bloggers all day about the bad things Josh does offensively, but defensively calling him out, while promoting the greatness of Kyle Korver and Kirk Hinrich because of high baskeball IQ does not sit well with me.
SteveW
January 7th, 2013
6:17 pm
Tough about d12 and the torn labrum. That recovery time can be 2-3 weeks up to 4 months. And it never heals completely without surgery. Tough break
Josh harrellson anyone? So we can then start ZaZa fulltime. Hawks need too
Slimjr
January 7th, 2013
6:18 pm
Hey Danny instead of focusing on the refs, why not focus on your teams short comings and bring in some help?
What a novel idea for an General Manager? Hmmmmm
You need a post presence yesterday! The Hawks ran 3 post plays all night according to Synergy?
Your team should have lost..
SteveW
January 7th, 2013
6:18 pm
Harrellson was waived
Rod from College Park
January 7th, 2013
6:19 pm
Grandad,
I also understood exactly what you were doing and took it with a grain of salt. MsDee was the one who said just like GRANDAD said, like that gives it some validity, which is why I included you in my rebuttal. Your feelings are you feelings and you have the right to them, but when you are being biased, which is most of the time, I have the right to call you on it. I’ll be eagerly awaiting your Al Horford breakdown.
Rod from College Park
January 7th, 2013
6:20 pm
3 post plays. SMH
SteveW
January 7th, 2013
6:21 pm
Slim – The trades may not be opened up yet. And Kyle Korver is not an nba starter we know. But patience is a virtue in this case. Cassipi may want a trade from the Cavs they say. But he, mcguire etc i don’t think are our answer.
And can’t trade Devin or morrow too readily if their injured
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January 7th, 2013
6:31 pm
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KevinM
January 7th, 2013
6:33 pm
SteveW, I was asking DF to go get Harrelson after the Knicks let him go.
He would get as many rebounds as Al if he got the minutes Al was getting and he’s nowhere near the cost of our 2X all-star.
And is it coincidence that D12 yet again has another major injury when things aren’t going so well?
Supreme Grand Poobah
January 7th, 2013
6:39 pm
Go Mr. 4 of 18 and his “athletic ability.”
Astro Joe
January 7th, 2013
6:44 pm
Kevin, so I guess he would get far more boards than Josh, considering Al is the team’s leading rebounder.
I wouldn’t count on Ferry using that last roster spot until after the trade deadline. I’m sure that he wants to maintain the ultimate flexibility in this transition year to add long-term assets to the team. The chances that a player cut in the last few days would make a material difference in this franchise’s future is pretty slim to null.
Rod from College Park
January 7th, 2013
6:46 pm
Mr. Ferry,
I personally would like to thank you for stepping up and calling out the officials for this team. If you think that game was bad, you should go back and look at the playoff series last year. While our team does not play smart basketball in crucial situations, we come out of the wrong side of calls by refs too frequently. It would also help if you informed your coach to stand up for his players sometimes. While I understand the “It was not the refs who cost us the game” statements after every bad call, someone has to stand up and get this team some respect. Josh and Al were fouled numerous times down the stretch of that game, with no calls. True Hawks fans appreciate someone stepping up.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
January 7th, 2013
6:52 pm
This offseason coming up Ferry will put his stamp on the franchise. Al and Josh could both be gone. New coach. New players
Can’t wait
Felix
January 7th, 2013
6:54 pm
I wish Frank Wren and Fredi G. stood up for the Braves the way Ferry does for the Hawks!
MattP
January 7th, 2013
7:00 pm
Glad to see a GM in here that actually does something about these stupid refs.
Sameba
January 7th, 2013
7:03 pm
test
Sameba
January 7th, 2013
7:06 pm
Rudy G. may be available too. I believe we should go hard after him. I think he is a crucial peace to our puzzle…
Sameba
January 7th, 2013
7:06 pm
^piece
Sameba
January 7th, 2013
7:09 pm
Blog monster does not allow me to post a link. What a stupidity…
Astro Joe
January 7th, 2013
7:14 pm
Rudy G@y is an inefficient max player who averages around 19 points, is an average rebounder and defender and doesn’t do much else to help his team win. And he would put the Hawks right back in the salary cap prison Ferry just removed us from. Other than that, he would bring excitement to the team and would be a clear (but costly) upgrade at SF.
keith
January 7th, 2013
7:19 pm
KUDOS for his Great Leadership..He can probably suit up right now and out score our Bigs. Danny was an excellent 3 point shooter!!!
Honesty
January 7th, 2013
7:19 pm
I Love Danny Ferry!!! Coolest GM Ever!
Grandad
January 7th, 2013
7:20 pm
* Reprinted from the last blog – for all to see !
_____________________________________________
Rod f C.P.
In my estimation – you got what you asked for last eve.
You called me out as being bias … so as stated in that
*’`Blast`’*
against Josh last eve I poured it on.
In doing so:
Tell me one thing I said that was not factual !
You say:
” Quoting GRANDAD really gets you no credit.
The guy bashes Josh at every occasion,
and even has the nerve to talk about how terrible he is defensively ”
-typical of you to take out of context-
I inferred prior to that post;
it was going to be “negative” … (on purpose) … yet truthful.
I have always stated that I like Josh;
further;
that he confounds me.
I have stated on many occasions that he plays hard;
contrasting Josh to JJohnson in that regard.
-Yet-
you say that I consistently bash Josh.
I say that what I do is attempt to balance the negativity
on this blog about Al when mis-information [&/or] sarcasm
is spewed forth. e g ::
*sarcastic … all-star Al
*escort service
*diaperAl or whatever vava used to call him
*etc
Yes, I`ll admit to frustration from Josh – warranted.
In an attempt to balance I`ll come back with a similar critique
of Al at some point although not as scathing admittedly so.
One last item:
about context and staying within;
when I speak of KKorv or Cap`n Kirk defensively
I always reference their positioning within the team concept.
From a coaches eyes these traits are invaluable.
You sir, see basketball purely from a fans perspective.
Highlight reel dunks, spectacular blocks and so on & on we go.
There is much, much more to Winning, Championship Basketball
than the entertainment aspect [r e; Stern product].
Case in point:
LBJ – whom I personnally do not like as an individual,
-However-
I can appreciate LBJ from a perspective which you
would never observe.
Last yr LBJ was roundly criticized for passing up the final,
perhaps [winning] shot in some game or another.
On 2nd glance LBJ made the absolute correct basketball play.
This young man [LBJ] has grown by leaps and bounds in maturity
in just the last two yrs.
Why should I bring up LeBron while discussing Josh ?
-Maybe-
`tis because the light came on for LeBron;
therefore I draw a correlation.
In my humble judgement, Josh has passed the day when
his light will come on.
Rod:
read my words if you choose;
please discern my words accordingly,
but do not change my words.
With all due respect,
G`Dad
High-sider
January 7th, 2013
7:22 pm
^Correction: ” Grandad @4:03pm, 1/7/2013* (FTPB)
Rusty
January 7th, 2013
7:24 pm
Rod from College Park I have said it before you are my favorite blogger 99 % of what you say makes you look very knowledgeable.
smittyderf
January 7th, 2013
7:27 pm
It truly amazes me that so many of the ” true fans” on this site don’t get it about basketball teams. Horford is the kind of player who will play whatever role you give him. He showed this at UF, where he also won championships. Josh Smith came out of High School spoiled and immature, lacking fundamentals, but incredibly athletic drawing lots of comparisons to Dominique who like Smith, never won a championship. Drew won’t discipline his play which may end up costing Drew his job under a GM like Ferry seems to be. Smithlead
smittyderf
January 7th, 2013
7:29 pm
Smith leads the team in highlight blocked shots but also in turnovers(more than the point guard,incredibly) and in missed 3 pt attempts(why?)
Rusty
January 7th, 2013
7:29 pm
DF if you really want to help the hawks you need to get us a new coach.LD was a lot more responsible for the loss with his lousy coaching than all the players put together ,just like our playoff lost to the celts last year.
Duluth Joe
January 7th, 2013
7:33 pm
From two Blogs ago (Hard to keep up with Chris Vivlamore),
“The Mavericks have a high-profile, “hands-on” owner in Mark Cuban, a hard-nosed, former COY and superior strategist in Rick Carlisle, a former league MVP, Finals MVP and future HOFer in Dirk Nowitzki and “ch’ip” (championship) hardware (2011 NBA Championship) to “keep Cousins under control” and “in line.”
Highsider, No doubt Mark Cuban is a great owner. Even though he made a mistake by letting his “LEADER” (Tyson Chandler) and h is spark plug (Jason Terry) leave. Our ownership doesn’t rank close to Mark Cuban, but with addition of Ferry and ASG stepping back, I can argue there is a basketball man in charge of operations as opposed to a former internet kid who got lucky selling his company at the right time
As for Rick Carlisle, how do you think Cousins takes to this style? (see link below)
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/rick-carlisle-threatens-suspensions-slumping-dallas-mavericks-don-193040252–nba.html
Finally, Dirk is a Hall of Famer. No question. But who do you think Cousins would enjoy playing more with? A man with a heart (Josh Smith), a defensive one of a kind who complements him, or a declining aging Hall of Famer that shoots from outside and could never without the leader (TysonChandler) that the great owner let slip through his fingers?
As for past championships, I doubt that will sway Cousins one way or other
Duluth Joe
January 7th, 2013
7:35 pm
“who could never win without the leader (Tyson Chandler)”
keith
January 7th, 2013
7:37 pm
Rusty
January 7th, 2013
7:29 pm
99% of what you just said makes absolutely no sense!!! Our SCRUB BIGS are responsible for that Monumnental 19 point meltdown…ie.., Josh Smith and Al Horford….
Slimjr
January 7th, 2013
7:38 pm
Thats nice 2x AllStar/All NBA Al Horford won Championships in College.Its unfortunate that his game will not translate into winning NBA Championships…
Unless he’s a 4th or 5th option in the twilight of his career perhaps? You have time to watch a blade of grass grow?
Duluth Joe
January 7th, 2013
7:42 pm
“The Mavericks team currently has a (win-loss) record of 13 – 21, which is ironically the same record the Kings (team) has, and “sits” in 12th place in the Western Conference Standings. As you can see, the Mavericks team is currently a “non-playoff team” and appears to be willing to take “the risk” on Cousins because, quite frankly, the (Mavericks) organization may see itself at or near the bottom with (virtually) nowhere to go but up. As a consequence, the Mavs may “roll the dice” and “take a gamble” on (DeMarcus) Cousins.”
High-sider, why should Hawks having (currently) third best record in East prevent them from going after Cousins? Do you really think the third best record (currently) is equal to getting past the second round (at best) of playoffs for Hawks with the current roster?
We just traded a six time All Star, a former number 2 draft pick (unworthy of that rank or his subsequent contract), and are rebuilding the team. This is by no means close to the roster that Ferry expects to have next year. This roster (as is), at best, gets to second round of playoffs. This roster struggles against teams with young big men (Pistons and Wizards) and old big men (Boston). Adding Cousins would be a huge move in the right direction
Honesty
January 7th, 2013
7:42 pm
Can we stop the Korver Bashing? I mean because We all KNOW Marvin was always been able to keep Paul Price in check….and LeBron, and Carmelo LOL.
Smoove should have been guarding PP He’s been our best wing defender since he got here.
keith
January 7th, 2013
7:43 pm
DANNY FERRY could put a JERSEY on today and outscore Al Horford and Josh Smith…When Ferry played professional Basketball, he was a knockdown 3 point shooter…PERIOD…
HE COULD TEACH OUR 3 STOOGES A THING OR 2…..
Slimjr
January 7th, 2013
7:48 pm
Cousins would feast on Bostons front line.
30 and 17 with little sweat..He would live on the line where he makes free-throws and now the Hawks have balance…
Betcha didn’t know he’s equipped with a deadly pullup mid range jumper..Nice
Rusty
January 7th, 2013
7:50 pm
The same thing that happened to Joe Johnson now has happened to Josh. Joe after getting that big contract assumed then that he had to carry the team,unfortunately his game wasn’t up to it & he wilted under the pressure. Now Josh with his great desire to win & playing for the big contract has tried to really step up his game but just doesn’t have enough skill & has lost his focus to play to his strengths. I have to blame LD for both these problems as he also has to see this but has never stood up to these problems.
Rusty
January 7th, 2013
7:55 pm
Keith really who in their right mind would ever take you serious,about everything you say is stupid.
High-sider
January 7th, 2013
7:57 pm
@keith
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keith
January 7th, 2013
7:43 pm
DANNY FERRY could put a JERSEY on today and outscore Al Horford and Josh Smith…When Ferry played professional Basketball, he was a knockdown 3 point shooter…PERIOD…
HE COULD TEACH OUR 3 STOOGES A THING OR 2…..
————————————————-
Quit trippin’. Danny Ferry has done a good job so far as GM of the Hawks but let’s not get carried away. Danny Ferry (who coincidentally was a No. 2 overall pick in the 1989 NBA Draft) was a “bigger bust” than “Duck” aka “It was not a bad pick” aka Marvin Williams. Please remember that Danny Ferry played (all) four years of college basketball at Duke University and received the NCAA Naismith Men’s College Player of the Year Award in his senior season.
Danny Ferry never “lived up” to his college “top billing” when he came to the NBA. “Word is bond.”
If you don’t believe me, check out Ferry’s NBA stats.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/ferryda01.html
jo
January 7th, 2013
8:31 pm
The refs were in the pay if Boston the whole game. Why dud Ferry get fined? For pouting out the obvious? Sounds like an NBA coverup….
O'Brien
January 7th, 2013
8:35 pm
AJ,
The chances that a player cut in the last few days would make a material difference in this franchise’s future is pretty slim to null..
Hawks lost 4 games by 3 pts or less. Isn’t it possible that a better SF “could” have helped win one of those?
I wouldn’t count on Ferry using that last roster spot until after the trade deadline..
I think Hawks could waive Tolliver (and not have to pay him for the rest of season), and pick up one of the waived SFs (if they look good in a Hawks workout). And that would preserve a roster spot for the deadline.
Rod,
Teague also gets fouled on some of his drives too, and no call. And LD says nothing.
Just Joe
January 7th, 2013
8:37 pm
AJ…What makes Rudy G an “inefficient” scorer? His shooting % is down this year, but it’s still early. He’s been 45%+ for 5 straight years (45% for his career). That’s not bad for a guy out on the wing. Paul Pierce is a career 44% shooter. Danny Granger is a career 43% shooter. Shane Battier 43%. Luol Deng 46%. Grant Hill 48%. Metta World Peace 41%.
5-6 rebounds per game is above-avg for a SF as well. Rudy’s avgd 5.5+ rebounds per game for 6 straight years.
I’d be OK with Ferry trying to build around Rudy and Josh in the forward spots, rather than Josh and Al in the forward spots. Need a 7-footer either way though.
High-sider
January 7th, 2013
8:39 pm
@Duluth Joe
“High-sider, why should Hawks having (currently) third best record in East prevent them from going after Cousins? Do you really think the third best record (currently) is equal to getting past the second round (at best) of playoffs for Hawks with the current roster?
We just traded a six time All Star, a former number 2 draft pick (unworthy of that rank or his subsequent contract), and are rebuilding the team. This is by no means close to the roster that Ferry expects to have next year. This roster (as is), at best, gets to second round of playoffs. This roster struggles against teams with young big men (Pistons and Wizards) and old big men (Boston). Adding Cousins would be a huge move in the right direction” – Duluth @7:42pm, 1/7/2013
The Hawks’ leadership, “team chemistry” and “psyche” are already fragile at best. A current 3 seed in the East is better than a “lotto spot” (if you know what I mean). If you add a player like Cousins who could potentially be a distraction and disruption, the Hawks may go from a playoff team to a lottery team. You’re taking a “gamble” on a player with a recent “checkered past.” Don’t get me wrong; I’m all about redemption and second(, third, fourth, and, even, fifth) chances. Again, I would take a chance on Cousins if my team is currently a 7 or 8 seed or lower but not a 3 seed that could “nosedive’” at any time during the season. I’m sorry but “the risk” is just too great at this point (in time).
ATMAN
January 7th, 2013
8:48 pm
Duluth Joe, Josh is a man with a heart as you state, just needs to play with it all the time. Playing with heart doesn’t mean trotting back on D complaining and pointing for someone to get your man. Playing with heart is getting in there and rebounding, boxing out, getting loose balls not what your man JS does. JS has lazied his way thru the NBA, never developing post moves, not working on his shot, and assuming his athletic ability will be enough. Josh frustrates me because he has the most potential, but this far into his career I’m afraid we’ve seen the best………time to trade or find him an awesome supporting cast because Josh is not going to carry the Hawks, nor is Al and Josh going to, DF I am waiting for your next move…..
Astro Joe
January 7th, 2013
8:57 pm
OB, I think today was the deadline for waiving guys on unguaranteed contracts, which is why the waiver wire is hopping today. Tolliver could be on a different schedule though. And honestly, it is doubtful that a player of that ilk would get the time needed to make an impact.
Just Joe, maybe I was too focused on this year… he has been pretty average. I don’t think he is a true MAX player. My biggest concern is his contract and how it impacts our ability to do more. If he can;t take us over the hump, there may not be any cap space to add pieces that would.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
January 7th, 2013
8:58 pm
KG intentionally tried to kick ZaZa during the game. He should be suspended.
I guess I am the only person in the world who saw this unless Ferry reported it.
Danny Ferry, Atlanta Hawks GM, Fined $15K
January 7th, 2013
9:22 pm
[...] Journal-Constitution said that a person familiar with the situation said Ferry “handed game officials a DVD” after the [...]
doc
January 7th, 2013
9:24 pm
good for danny ferry.
meanwhile the irish are going down, hate anything green.
i am solid with my friend that retires to rio, brother clyde.
ROLL F*UCKING TIDE
and i really don’t like the tide since darwin holt jolted one of my favorite ga tech players in the 60’s.
Just Joe
January 7th, 2013
9:30 pm
Wiz beat the Thunder tonight. Who saw that coming?
Najeh Davenpoop
January 7th, 2013
9:32 pm
“KG intentionally tried to kick ZaZa during the game. He should be suspended.
I guess I am the only person in the world who saw this unless Ferry reported it.”
I saw it too.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 7th, 2013
9:33 pm
“Rudy G@y is an inefficient max player who averages around 19 points, is an average rebounder and defender and doesn’t do much else to help his team win. And he would put the Hawks right back in the salary cap prison Ferry just removed us from. Other than that, he would bring excitement to the team and would be a clear (but costly) upgrade at SF.”
Haha @ having to bleep out his last name to get past the blog monster. Don’t forget that Hawks jersey sales, already low to begin with, would plummet if he came here.
O'Brien
January 7th, 2013
9:50 pm
Dominic mcGuire signed a 10 day contract to play with the Pacers. Why didnt the Hawks do that?
Just Joe
January 7th, 2013
9:53 pm
My guess is now that Tolliver is actually on a guaranteed deal for the whole season???
doc
January 7th, 2013
9:56 pm
sweeeet i do hate green.
28-zip at half.
go down domers …. pretenders.
O'Brien
January 7th, 2013
10:03 pm
Miami working out Birdman.
Nets and Thunder eyeing Samaro Samuels.
With Devin Harris injured and Hawks needing a backup PG, why not give Machado a workout (or a 10 day contract)?
It is also being reported that the agents for Omri Casspi have requested a trade. Petro and a second round pick for him? Cavs need a backup center for Varejao
Just Joe
January 7th, 2013
10:15 pm
OKC beat by Washington. Spurs beat by Hornets. Knicks beat by Celtics (Celts held Knicks to 16 pts in 3rd qtr). Why couldn’t Miami have a game tonight?
doc
January 7th, 2013
10:19 pm
i guess the celts are not so over the hill as we thought are they slimj? knicks beaten by greenies and without rondo. wha happened to your boys slimj? suck like the hawks eh?
long season. then the real season begins.
Melvin
January 7th, 2013
10:27 pm
Celtics beat the Knicks in NY tonight. Don’t look now but those old men in the Lucky Charm uniforms may have found their Geritol…
Please Answer This
January 7th, 2013
10:30 pm
Asessments:
Horford – He’s not Kevin Mchale. He’s not Rodman. He’s not Barkley. He’s not even Buck Williams or Dan Roundfield. He’s not even attempting to be any of the above. All he wants to do is stay in the league, remain healthy and bank contracts.
Josh Smith – The only area in which he is even close to an upper echelon player is Help Defense. Other than that, EVERYTHING Grandad said was absolutely 100% spot-on.
I can’t understand how any of you like either one of these guys. Much less play favorites between them.
keith
January 7th, 2013
10:49 pm
“WILL BE HARD TO WATCH ANOTHER 1ST ROUND EXIT”
We have to find some “Leadership” on this team going forward…AL HORFORD IS NOT A LEADER.
JOSH SMITH IS NOT A GOOD LEADER.
Short term fix, start LOU WILLIAMS at the point.Allow him to learn on the fly..He may be the only player that we currently have who is CAPABLE of leading this team…
PG-Lou Will
SG-Anthony Morrow
SF-Kyle Korver
PF-Smith
C-Horford
keith
January 7th, 2013
10:55 pm
BRING JEFF TEAGUE OFF THE BENCH….SIGN SCOTT MACHADO AS SOON AS POSSIBLE…
BE:Teague..Jenkins…Tolliver…Ivan…Zaza….Mike Scott….Petro
Astro Joe
January 7th, 2013
10:57 pm
Najeh, I tried to post several opinions/rumors about Rudy in Memphis and the blog monster kept chewing up my posts. Then I noticed someone else did the old “@” thing to trick the system.
Regarding roster additions, my guess is that Ferry wants to keep that roster spot open for a possible 1 for 2 deal (or 2 for 3). I think quite a few of these guys who only received non-guaranteed contracts in the summer will still be available in 7-8 weeks. Not to mention that players who are maybe a little more proven and are bought out of their contract may be available later With Harris and Morrow a few days from rejoining the team, I doubt that Ferry even goes down the 10-day contract path.
TRANSITION year, people. No need to invest in new knobs for th kitchen cabinets when you are trying to figure out how much of the house will be standing in a few months.
Clyde, time to send in a check for the new statue at Alabama. I hope you still have some money from those “Fire Woody” t-shirts.
Astro Joe
January 7th, 2013
11:11 pm
Alabama will need to go to confessional after the beat-down they are administering.
We haven’t seen this kind of whopping on national TV since the first Tuesday in November.
doc
January 7th, 2013
11:29 pm
clyde, alabama sucks bro.
bring back shula!!
doc
January 7th, 2013
11:33 pm
ok the only thing left is to wonder if saban lets the center and qb to go back on the field to finish the fight. aj better learn not to show up his lead general in front to him. i think his career might not be as long as the centers. he might find a big lineman sucking u on him if he does that in the nil to show up a three time champion.
Rev in Tampa
January 8th, 2013
12:35 am
My 11 year old son hasn’t taken to basketball but he loves the WWE. So guess where I was tonight? I got to see The Rock give C.M. Punk three rock bottoms.
I no longer have to wonder what the people of Wal-Mart do for entertainment. I found out tonight.
kuhndog
January 8th, 2013
12:43 am
did not see the KG kick but he got into it with carmollo tonight he wants to get in your head and muscle you around the court. That is what happened against the Hawks, and if rondo would have got thrown out of the Atl. game maybe.. just maybe we would have got some momentum back. I am concearned about our toughness,and the Celts. bullied us around without some help from the refs. as Rodney Dangerfield would say ” I cant get any respect around here”, we are one of those teams the NBA has around to kind of compete with the big names the TWEENER teams. And our dreams as fans of a championship would have to be skewed with overcoming some poor biased refeering i promise you.Way to go Danny Ferry do what LD needs to do and show some emotion for your team in battle lead LD
Rod from College Park
January 8th, 2013
1:00 am
Doc Rivers taking shots at Ferry:
“I’m going to let y’all figure that one out,” Rivers said. “I’m going to stay out of that. If it was the playoffs, I’d tell on him, but since it’s not, I’m going to just be quiet.”
Rivers took two subtle jabs with that remark: While offering a non-denial on Anthony’s actions, he made reference to reports that Atlanta Hawks general manager Danny Ferry snitched on Rajon Rondo for bumping a game official during Saturday night’s game in Atlanta, an act that led to Rondo being hit with a one-game suspension that forced him to sit out Monday’s game in New York. Ferry was fined $15,000 by the NBA for inappropriate interaction with game officials following the game.”
Buddy Grizzard
January 8th, 2013
2:26 am
Good Caspi trade O’Brien.
Buddy Grizzard
January 8th, 2013
2:27 am
Dumb comments above about Al caring about contracts. His contract is one of the best bargains among the top 50 players in the league.
Buddy Grizzard
January 8th, 2013
2:27 am
Believe Tolliver’s deal was always fully guaranteed.
Buddy Grizzard
January 8th, 2013
2:47 am
Kind of the perfect storm for Vegas to get s-canned. Team establishes high expectations early and fails to live up to them.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 8th, 2013
3:02 am
I agree with Astro Joe that future assets shouldn’t be compromised trying to improve this year’s team since it is a transition year, but if the Hawks could get Casspi for nothing (in other words, for Tolliver, Petro, or the option to swap 2nd round picks) I’d do it. He is a small forward, shoots 3s well and is an acceptable rebounder. Good enough for me.
vava74
January 8th, 2013
3:10 am
Sorry Buddy,
But if Al does not bring his work pants and continues to behave like this “strictly jumpshooter Al”, those 12 million per year are not a bargain, he is fool’s gold.
Skiles has asked to be relieved of his duties @ MIL, I say, make a move and sack LD now and get Skiles on board.
His act may wear off after a few of years of shouting, but these guys need someone to shout at them and call them out for their softness.
Also, Skiles is a pretty good X’s and O’s guy in my opinion and a substantially better roster manager than LD.
vava74
January 8th, 2013
3:12 am
My biggest blog regret:
My discussion with Big Ray about who was better between Al and Noah…
Oh my… how wrong was I?? Dead f%$#ing wrong.
Simba
January 8th, 2013
7:51 am
Where was Korver’s (defensive) positioning on Paul Pierce in the 3rd quarter of Friday night’s game when Pierce “went off” for 17 (3rd quarter) points?
Probably on the bench, as Pierce got half of those points off of DeShawn after Korver kept getting called for touch fouls.
Korver is a good team defender, but he’s not going to be able to guard someone like Pierce in the post. Josh/Ivan/Deshawn should have been on Pierce for most of the game.
Mike is Back
January 8th, 2013
8:32 am
GO DANNY GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Grandad
January 8th, 2013
8:44 am
Thanks Simba
Blog Monster eating everything I post.
Grandad
January 8th, 2013
9:06 am
High-Sider & R.f C.P.
There will be a response;
just as soon as I can figure out how to get my words past the
*’`Blog-Constipator`’*
I did not want for you two to think I sat idly by,
whilst yawl chortled.
O'Brien
January 8th, 2013
9:07 am
From one of vava’s favorite writers Charley Rosen
NBA’s most overrated players; What’s interesting to me is how many centers are on the list. Dwight Howard, Andrew Bynum, Roy Hibbert, and Chris Kaman.
What was also interesting, is what he said about Roy Hibbert. “His appearance in last year’s All-Star game is more indicative of the shortage of outstanding centers in the NBA than is it of Hibbert’s skills.” (which is the same thing we say about Al Horford).
http://hoopshype.com/columns/rosen/the-nbas-most-overrated-players/
doc
January 8th, 2013
9:09 am
say no to skiles
he self desructs loses control and then wants to quit midsesson when they are one of the mire over achieving teams? uoid gosh had him as cou now he falls back on old interpersonsl relationship habits?
good coach on par with karl in game management.
on par with the worst in managing people. like a bulldog. tried to fight shaq. he was right in what he wanted yhem to do but takes billdog approaches to get it done.
no thanks!! needs anger management training.
vava74
January 8th, 2013
9:10 am
Unfortunately Rosen is now completely senile…
From post to post his opinions fluctuate and he has become a very lazy columnist, which was not the case when he wrote for foxsports…
vava74
January 8th, 2013
9:12 am
doc,
we need a guy with fire in his nostrils… but even if we offered him the job, he would not accept it.
word is that he hated his team, probably since they went for that trade of Ellis for Bogut.
Skiles likes D and a more slow paced game and we have a roster somewhat similar to MIL’s…
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
January 8th, 2013
9:15 am
Petro sucks, but at least he’s a big.
Couldn’t we ship one of our expiring SGs for him? That would help free up Jenkins
doc
January 8th, 2013
9:16 am
as far as d12) beginning to think/suspect he might be as fragile as china if his injuries have been stoked by ped’s. always thought he was a little to big to be pure. a little too honed chiseled and perfect not chamberlinesque. now there was a specimen, django1. wilt was the best and d12 would have peed in his pants trying to keep up with him.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
January 8th, 2013
9:17 am
Him = Casspi
I’d hang onto Tolliver… Need wings and bigs. Get rid of one of these redundant SGs
doc
January 8th, 2013
9:18 am
skiles thinks he is bigger than the game
needs people skills simple as that
honey over sour
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
January 8th, 2013
9:19 am
What is Casspi’s defense like? Would be nice to try Korver at the 2. I don’t feel there’s many great SGs in this league
O'Brien
January 8th, 2013
9:56 am
I think Korver can play the 2 and the 3. However, it needs to be as a bench player. I also think LD should go back to bringing Lou Williams off the bench.
doc,
As a defensive minded assistant HC, Skiles is ok (imo). But as a HC? No thanks.
O'Brien
January 8th, 2013
9:58 am
I wonder if DF has considered leaving the roster as is to further evaluate LD?
Najeh Davenpoop
January 8th, 2013
10:12 am
From Grantland, Zach Lowe says some nice things about the Hawks’ current starting lineup:
Atlanta Hawks
The lineup: Jeff Teague–Lou Williams–Kyle Korver–Josh Smith–Al Horford
The numbers: 200 minutes, Atlanta’s most-used lineup
Larry Drew decided to start this group only after Devin Harris’s foot issues cropped up, but he should think about making the change permanent. This five has thrived on both ends, outscoring opponents by 9.1 points per 100 possessions — about what the powerhouse Clippers have done for the full season, per NBA.com. As with the Golden State group, having multiple ball handlers and five skilled passers has resulted in a massive uptick in both assists and shooting percentages; the Hawks have assisted on 73 percent of baskets when these five play, an unthinkable number, and they’re shooting well from all over the floor. All the passing hasn’t resulted in many turnovers, either; this group has coughed it up on just 11.1 percent of its possessions, even better than New York’s insanely low league-best rate.
Neither Teague nor Williams is an elite spot-up guy, but both have done well enough hanging in the corners when the other works as the point guard. Korver’s running around screens creates openings for everyone else, and Williams is very cagey losing defenders around off-ball picks. Both Williams and Korver are very dangerous when Horford or Smith holds the ball at the elbows, and Utah-style “flex” plays for Williams have gotten him a lot of open jumpers.
Drew has also been good at drawing up pick-and-rolls that bend the defense away from Korver on the weak side, including a Suns-style dandy in which one big will roll down one side of the paint toward the hoop while the other big jets up the opposite side, catches a pass from Teague, and immediately skips a cross-court bullet to Korver.
But this group is also showing cracks. They barely get to the line, a teamwide issue for Atlanta, which is threatening to set the all-time league record for lowest free throw rate. They’ve struggled horribly on the defensive glass, the predictable result of a lack of size on the wing and Smith’s occasionally indifferent boxing out. Bulky wings will attack Korver in the post; Paul Pierce fouled him out in Boston’s stirring comeback over the weekend.
The early signs are good, especially since the same lineup with DeShawn Stevenson in Korver’s place has fared even better than this group. But it’s still early.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 8th, 2013
10:14 am
I’d still prefer to use the big lineup to start games, maybe go to the current starting lineup to close games.
Astro Joe
January 8th, 2013
10:17 am
Why would ferry hire a coach with a 2-3 year expiration date (Skiles)? He hasn’t been in the playoffs since many around here were freaking out about the Game 5 loss at home to the Bucks.
OB, I think it is less about LD and more about the roster flexibility required to acquire long-term assets. Ferry signed a 6 year contract, he doesn’t need to mortgage the future for a 2nd round playoff loss this season. Any marginal player who can help this team will be available at the end of February. For every Dominic McGuire, there is a Damion James. It may be a different name but the result won’t likely be significantly different.
We have always wanted a PLAN. I think Ferry has one and it isn’t to use up cap space for an average vet SF with 1.5 left on his deal or use the last roster spot for someone who straddles the fence between the NBA and D league. I think if he can upgrade the roster by acquiring a better player WITH an expiring contract (or, like Casspi, could be cut loose in the summer), I think he will do it. if not, that last roster spot will be filled after the trade deadline.
I’d imagine that a GM can evaluate a head coach regardless of the talent on the bench. Based on things that we can’t see (or don’t know).
Grandad
January 8th, 2013
10:18 am
doc @ 9:16 am
We are of one mind … I hereby endorse, certify, & cosign,
every word you said !
Rod from College Park
January 8th, 2013
10:20 am
“But this group is also showing cracks. They barely get to the line, a teamwide issue for Atlanta, which is threatening to set the all-time league record for lowest free throw rate. They’ve struggled horribly on the defensive glass, the predictable result of a lack of size on the wing and Smith’s occasionally indifferent boxing out. Bulky wings will attack Korver in the post; Paul Pierce fouled him out in Boston’s stirring comeback over the weekend.”
This paragraph tells you all you need to know.
doc
January 8th, 2013
10:22 am
o’b yup
skiles is a control freak in a players league with constsnt mutations from year tontear
flexible imaginative coaches survive
as far as bogut though and losing him, karl had a personal relationship with mene that went deep beyond basketball and it hurt to let him go. economics are a challenge in the nba. you cant be a 5′10″ diva or any height. ring bearing diva phil got choked out doing a bit of grandstanding not realizing the boys were more in control than daddy.
doc
January 8th, 2013
10:25 am
thanks gdad. proud to take the words out of your computer.
Astro Joe
January 8th, 2013
10:26 am
Zach Lowe basically says what we have been saying… this team thrives on passes to the perimeter and it has led to above-average success. Of course, when it doesn’t work…
Buddy Grizzard
January 8th, 2013
10:30 am
“I’d hang onto Tolliver… Need wings and bigs.”
Problem is, he’s neither.
Astro Joe
January 8th, 2013
10:31 am
doc, PEDs? Come on now, has Howard showed any of the emotional imbalance of PED users? Maybe he just does a whole lot of push-ups like Hershel.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
January 8th, 2013
10:31 am
Smoove’s “occasionally” indifferent boxing out? He SELDOM boxes out if at all. This has been going on for years. Cost us the CLE game
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
January 8th, 2013
10:35 am
Fine Buddy. Let’s trade a center for a wing so ZaZa can play 40 minutes a game. We already for whatever reason didn’t get Fesenko
You can’t be short on bigs in this league, no matter how painfully awful they are
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
January 8th, 2013
10:39 am
I’d even look at trading Stevenson. He can’t defend anymore and his shooting is sketchy at times. Everyone on this team is fair game outside of Lou. Wonder if Ferry makes a move. Glad to see him get fined for what he did, but wish it was for something like a cheapshot or dirty play
Rondo has been suspended 4 times in 1 year…wow
Astro Joe
January 8th, 2013
10:39 am
JeJe, Josh didn’t box out in that Cleveland game because he was worried that a teammate would try and pass him the ball behind the 3 point line. He was distracted by his cowardice teammates. He was trying to make something happen (other than the defensive rebound). He was hiding an injury. The ref missed the call. A unicorn was flying over head. Keyshia Cole started singing to him. Varejao’s dandruff got in his eye. He was reading a nasty email from Dan Gilbert. Art Modell’s ghost started to haunt him. Whatever you do, don’t blame Josh.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 8th, 2013
10:46 am
Also from that Grantland article:
9. Marvin Williams, Lost in Utah
It’s not just that Williams has disappointed for a team that needs production on the wing; it’s the way he has disappointed. Williams is a solid cutter and a useful corner shooter, but he has looked lost in Utah’s offense, taking a smaller role than ever before in his career. He’s more of a stand-still catch-and-shoot guy than someone who can make a play after running around a screen and catching on the move, and he just hasn’t looked at home as a Jazz man. Utah will surely bring up his name as the trade deadline approaches.
10. The Hawks’ Accelerated Shot Clock Countdown
The Atlanta in-arena experience generally isn’t very good, with “blah” crowds and weirdly frequent clock and scoreboard errors. But they sneak in some clever public-address work and sound effects, including a “tick-tock” countdown that accelerates when the enemy shot clock is running down. The players probably don’t notice it, but it stresses me out watching games — and I don’t even care about the outcomes. Fun stuff from the folks who brought you “MAR-VIN!” for every made Williams basket, and “That foul was offensive!” for enemy offensive fouls.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 8th, 2013
10:47 am
“Everyone on this team is fair game outside of Lou. ”
Why isn’t Lou fair game? It’s not like he’s LeBron or something.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
January 8th, 2013
10:49 am
Lou isn’t fair game because he’s the only player on this team who can score easy baskets. Any Rod from CP post will agree with that. And that’s why our offense goes into a coma every night. Josh farting around on the block is our 2nd best half court offense option
So much for LD’s motion offense
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
January 8th, 2013
10:51 am
FIRE LD
Anything worse than 3-1 in next 4 games is disgraceful
doc
January 8th, 2013
10:53 am
body breaks down and is more brittle to users is my point aj. it is also slow to heal. back op slow recovery under best of care now gets tweaked and labrum goes? just saying and sure it is speculation but i have had a nose for it for a long time. when things dont fit us when i begin to wonder. again pure speculation but isnt that what a blog is? i hope you at least understand my points.
also firmly believe chipper used and that was part of his decline.
O'Brien
January 8th, 2013
10:57 am
JeJe,
Rondo has been suspended 4 times in 1 year…wow.
But yet, Stern named Rondo to last year’s AS game over Josh Smith, when Josh seemed to be the more logical choice to replace JJ.
Najeh,
Why isn’t Lou fair game? It’s not like he’s LeBron or something..
Co-sign. Its not like we can’t find another scoring guard. OJ Mayo will be available, JR Smith will be available, and there may be others.
Astro Joe
January 8th, 2013
10:58 am
doc, I was just messing with you. And yes, I agree about Chipper (he was smart enough to get off before most did) and believe that Boozer and Amare were users as well.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
January 8th, 2013
11:01 am
Lou Williams also actually enjoys being here and isn’t a headcase like the two aforementioned players
Rod from College Park
January 8th, 2013
11:06 am
“also firmly believe chipper used and that was part of his decline.”
DING, DING, DING. How many times did he tear his oblique?
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
January 8th, 2013
11:17 am
Half of doc’s posts here are incomprehensible
Rod from College Park
January 8th, 2013
11:34 am
“It truly amazes me that so many of the ” true fans” on this site don’t get it about basketball teams. Horford is the kind of player who will play whatever role you give him.”
So is his role on this team to pass up open shots to kick it to Josh for 3 pointer’s, and to stand in the paint and watch point guards continually lay the ball up in his face while he stands and watches because he does not think he is supposed to HELP on defense, while every other big tries to help?
EmirS.
January 8th, 2013
11:36 am
Personal Opinion:
O.J. Mayo is a semi-miniature version of Joe Johnson. He lives and dies by the jumper/3-point shot. Not as good of a defender as JJ and is turnover prone. If we want to increase our free throw rate, then this isn’t the guy to do it with. His numbers have been overblown with the absence of Dirk. His skill set is below that of our very own…Louis Williams. If Lou was to average the same amount of minutes as Mayo, he’d be just as good stats wise if not noticeably more.
As a few people have mentioned, either Al or Josh has to go. The one who stays will take over the PF spot. With that being said…let me mention this name again: Nikola Vucevic. He is up there with names such as Asik, Pekovich, and Varejao just to name a few. It’s his 2nd year in the NBA and has so much room to grow. It would be a huge pick up if we can acquire him.
Astro Joe
January 8th, 2013
11:38 am
Rod, the answer is yes… and have the biggest contract on the hawks. That is his job, deal with it!
doc
January 8th, 2013
11:49 am
so rod you agree?
Astro Joe
January 8th, 2013
11:51 am
Rev., did you see Ox Baker, Ernie Ladd or Stan Hansen? How about The Road Warriors, The Anderson Brothers or The Freebirds? Mr. Wrestling #2, Tony Atlas or Thunderbolt Patterson? Man, am I OLD!
cdog
January 8th, 2013
12:16 pm
danny ferry, the problem isn’t the officials.its the soft-spoken so-called head coach named larry drew.plus, you need to find a center to play opposite al hortford. if you are banking on za za pachulia, you are badly wrong.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 8th, 2013
12:33 pm
Offseason blog favorite Andray Blatche is being questioned regarding a rape in Philadelphia last night.
Rod from College Park
January 8th, 2013
12:42 pm
“so rod you agree?”
Knowing him in high school and seeing how ripped he got in a short time frame, made me question it, but I know the kid stays in the weight room, which is something a lot of basketball players avoid, at least when I played they did. I don’t think the NBA does serious testing for all that stuff so it would not surprise me. I know for a fact many of the NFL dudes use on a regular basis. Knowing what I know, once I start seeing certain things, ligament tears, and muscle tears and strains, it tends to open my eyes. You would have more knowlegge than me on that. In his case, I don’t think the proof is there yet. He had surgey on his back, came back and does not look like he is fully healed and tore his labrum. Could be any number of things like still compensating for the back issues. It would not surprise me.
ejh
January 8th, 2013
12:44 pm
If Dirk Notwiski wants out of Dallas, (he has one year left on his contract after this year)trade Al, Morrow, and Stephenson and your latest 1st round pick. Teague, Jenkins, Josh, Dirk, ZsaZsa. Replace ZsaZsa in the starting lineup in the offseason by signing Dwight Howard. So when Dirk’s contract expire next offseason, you will then have his money to go sign another high caliber wing player, and move Josh back to the Pf position with Howard at center. Dare I wish to say LBJ in a hawks uniform for Dirk’s money; (we all can dream can’t we).
Sameba
January 8th, 2013
12:49 pm
cdog
January 8th, 2013
12:16 pm
Stop talking nonsense…
O'Brien
January 8th, 2013
12:49 pm
From Yahoo Sports;
The Memphis Grizzlies and Phoenix Suns are engaged in trade talks centered on forward Rudy G@y, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
Rudy G@y is averaging 17.8 points and 5.8 rebounds this season. (USA Today Sports)The Grizzlies have been shopping G@y to multiple teams, and found an interested trade partner with the Suns, sources said.
There’s no framework of a possible deal in place, but the Grizzlies have expressed a strong desire that any package involving G@y include Suns forward Jared Dudley and future first-round draft picks, sources said.
In an effort to avoid paying luxury tax in the short term, as well as get off the $17.8 million and $19.3 million owed G@y in the 2013-14 and 2014-15 seasons, new Memphis management has aggressively shopped G@y..
O'Brien
January 8th, 2013
12:50 pm
Najeh,
Nets have to decide today or tomorrow if they want to guarantee Blatche’s contract for the rest of the season. Any interest if he becomes available? Melvin?
O'Brien
January 8th, 2013
12:54 pm
Slim,
10 pts, 8 rebs, 4 turnovers for Cousins in 28 mins against the Grizzles front court.
O'Brien
January 8th, 2013
12:56 pm
Hawks drop from 8th to 12th in Marc Stein’s power rankings.
The Hawks just endured their worst week of the season thanks to a one-point loss in Detroit and a 33-9 drubbing in the third quarter the next night to blow a big lead at home to Boston. Amazing that it took this long, though, to see them slip out of the top five in defensive efficiency..
Astro Joe
January 8th, 2013
1:00 pm
I’m no fan of Blatche the player but I sure hope that the charge is false. It seemed like he was trying to mature as a person… I sincerely hope that this is one of those trumped-up charges.
Just Joe is right that Memphis Rudy is rebounding at a high rate for a SF. But he certainly hasn’t emerged as a true MAX player in the 2nd year of that contract.
doc
January 8th, 2013
1:33 pm
good sound points rod on the subject and on d12. i said it in terms of speculation and what to expect of the guy if you pay him max. can he deliver on it or becomes more an elton brand done after his first contract? dont know the extent of injury but if surgery for a torn labrum as it was reported then he is done this year and it is a huge dilemma as to sound or not. so far his back has limited as the old young d12. what would he be next year the old old d12!
was more thinking in terms of chipper
remember all his foot issues in his mid thirties and that he never made it through a season without injury the last eight years it seems? good player, great hitter.
doc
January 8th, 2013
1:35 pm
i am not naive on the subject of roids as they were available and offered to me in the summer of 69 to bulk up for baseball by a kid from another program. they have been around a long time.
Astro Joe
January 8th, 2013
1:52 pm
Minnesota Timberwolves coach Rick Adelman is currently away from the team due to personal reasons and may miss tonight’s home game against the Atlanta Hawks. From the team’s PR Twitter account: CBSSports.com
Just Joe
January 8th, 2013
2:02 pm
If Memphis can get cap relief, a pick or two, and a solid role player like Jared Dudley, then that’s a good return for Rudy G.
“My” Atlanta offer would have looked something like Harris, Korver, Tolliver, and Houston’s pick for Rudy & Tony Wroten.
MsDee
January 8th, 2013
2:04 pm
Chris V,
Looks like u are 1 blog short for today so far..lol. We are on page 5 and no game has been played yet!!
Rev in Tampa
January 8th, 2013
2:35 pm
I’m glad we are catching the Timberwolves short-handed. After losing 3 of 4, I am hoping the Hawks will put together a little win streak.
Astro Joe
January 8th, 2013
2:37 pm
So I guess we get to see Derrick Williams play tonight. Especially with Adelman likely missing the game. Stat stuffer vs. stat stuffer with Kirilenko battling Josh. I’m looking forward to an entertaining game. Time to break out the super-deluxe sized popcorn bowl.
2 FOR JOHN DREW
January 8th, 2013
3:06 pm
YAY for DF …. seems like everything he does is done w/ a purpose. Having DF as our GM …. after Rick Sund ….. is like having Filet Mignon after bologna. Sorry, about that food analogy …. sitting here waiting on my lunch !
hfc95
January 8th, 2013
3:25 pm
Hawks made Grantland
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8823509/the-houston-rockets-indiana-pacers-golden-state-warriors-more-nba-best-lineup
Read Zachs 10 things I like and dont like #9 in particular
I think everyone agrees on this besides that one ajc hawks blogger, what was the handle??…#2 not a bust? something like that
Tonights game has a huge impact on our Hawks(imo)
-If we lose, we may need to think about some trades and going ahead and start making moves
-If we win, we should stay the course, only trade if it makes sense and play the year out
O'Brien
January 8th, 2013
3:26 pm
Rev,
Look for LD to come out and say the Hawks have a tendency to let their guards down when an opponent is missing key players, so he would prefer if Minny had all their players available.
MsDee,
C-Viv has spoiled us, so I can’t help but wonder where is the second blog
Chris Vivlamore
January 8th, 2013
3:46 pm
Fair warning. New blog to be posted soon.