Atlanta Hawks: Rematch with Pistons awaits

Vivlamore reporting.

Short-handed or not, Lou Williams is staying in the Hawks’ starting lineup.

Coach Larry Drew, out of necessity, used Williams as the starting shooting guard on Dec. 22 against the Bulls. The Hawks are 5-1 since the move.

At the time, Drew said he would have used Devin Harris in the starting spot. However, the guard was out with a sore left foot – an issue that will cost him a ninth straight game Friday at the Pistons. The change has also meant the DeShawn Stevenson, often a starter at small forward with Kyle Korver at shooting guard, has remained a reserve.

Drew knows a good thing and he’s sticking with it.

“A couple of games I’ve thought about going back to a bigger lineup but sometimes, as I’ve said in the past, you’ve got to roll the dice a little bit – whether you adjust to the opposition or you force the opposition to adjust to you,” Drew said. “Clearly, our last few games if there is an adjustment to be made it’s going to be on their end. I’m going to stay with what’s been working for us. He’s been good in our lineup and I’m going to keep it that way.”

It was on Dec. 26, after the Hawks enjoyed a Christmas break, a 22-point lead against the Pistons was blow at Philips Arena. The Hawks survived in double overtime despite the play of Will Bynum, from Georgia Tech. The victory was part of the five wins in six games with Williams in the starting lineup.

Williams, listed at 6-foot-1, will again draw the defensive assignment of the Pistons’ 6-8 Kyle Singler. Singler was held scoreless in 14 minutes before making way for Bynum and his 31 points off the bench in the Pistons’ comeback.

Williams has averaged 14.4 points, 6.4 assists and 3.4 rebounds as a starter after going 173 career games with stepping on the floor with the first unit.

“It’s been a lot easier,” point guard Jeff Teague said. “He can score the basketball. At that 2-guard position you need a scorer. He takes a lot of pressure off all of us with his ability to score points.”

The Hawks will also be without guard Anthony Morrow (right hip strain) and center Johan Petro (stomach illness) against the Pistons. Neither player, along with Harris, traveled to Detroit Thursday. Morrow will miss his fourth straight game with his injury.

Center Al Horford (right hip contusion) did not practice Thursday but said he fully expects to play against the Pistons.

The Pistons have won three straight since the loss to the Hawks, including a victory over the Heat.

The Hawks spent Thursday’s practice reviewing schemes and assignments that were at issue in the Pistons’ big comeback.

“Their matchups are always tough for us because they are big and they are physical,” Drew said. “… It seems like they are playing with a new sense of pride. They are a team that can hurt you in a number of ways, with their size, with their speed, particularly their guards. (6-5 guard Rodney) Stuckey has always been a tough matchup for us because he has size and he’s strong and we don’t have a clear matchup against him. We try to combat that in different ways just to keep his numbers down.”

The Hawks return home Saturday to host the Celtics. On the season, the Hawks are an NBA-best 7-1 in the second game of back-to-backs.

- Chris Vivlamore

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High-sider

January 3rd, 2013
5:08 pm

High-sider

January 3rd, 2013
5:08 pm

High-sider

January 3rd, 2013
5:15 pm

I believe, if the Knicks lose tonight and the Hawks win tomorrow, the Hawks will “move up” to the 2 seed in the East (by a 1/2 game).

http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Cnf.html

High-sider

January 3rd, 2013
5:19 pm

Hawks, don’t let (Will) “Bynum-ite” “explode” for 30+ points (again).

High-sider

January 3rd, 2013
5:19 pm

Enter your comments here

doc

January 3rd, 2013
5:21 pm

-/+ is better utlized in groupings to see trends. just the same flagrant -’s and +’s over and over mean something.

korver would not have played if sloan and thibs thought he was a huge liability on the defensive end despite korver’s obvious shortcomings. they were sticklers for doing it right. he is not the greatest nor is he bibbyesque. he has done his job and the hawks as a team usually play good d outside of certain match up issues against some of the best. of course the best make everyone else look bad too.

Rev in Tampa

January 3rd, 2013
5:25 pm

AJ,

Thanks for the help on the previous blog regarding the +/-. I figured it was calculated by using Hollinger’s advanced stats plus that popcorn machine stuff that northcyde and vava are always talking about. It further confused me that it was updated and fluctuated so wildly within a quarter of the game.

I barely passed algebra II in high school and haven’t been able to help my children in math past fourth grade so I thought this +/- business was well past my abilities.

Buddy Grizzard

January 3rd, 2013
5:31 pm

“Buddy – RealGm website. Always been pretty reliable”

Could you post a direct link? I scanned around and didn’t see it. That’s huge if the Hawks are able to switch picks with BKN. There’s a very good chance the Hawks finish with the better record in both of those years and will have the opportunity to move up to BKN’s draft position if that’s true. C-Viv do you know anything about a provision of the Joe Johnson trade that will allow the Hawks to swap first round picks with BKN in TWO upcoming drafts?

The Truth

January 3rd, 2013
5:52 pm

I’m gonna rag Teague out if he lunch on defense again. The players he guards (Bynum or Stuckey) and even Brandon Knight (LoL) will become all-stars for sure if they saw enough of Teague in their schedule.

keith

January 3rd, 2013
6:02 pm

ANDRE DRUMMOND +GREG MONROE+ WILL BYNUM SHOULD = BIG LINE-UP

The 3 of them exploited our greatest areas of “Weakness”. “Dribble penetration” and defending the “Pick & Roll.” This would be a more “Pragmatic’ game to utilize the BIG LINE-UP???

HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE FOR THE “COACH OF THE MONTH” TO FIGURE THIS OUT?????

The Truth

January 3rd, 2013
6:29 pm

FTPB

“Their matchups are always tough for us because they are big and they are physical,” – LD

“They are a team that can hurt you in a number of ways, with their size, with their speed particularly their guards.” – LD

I want LD to stop that whining. He had a chance to add players with size (like Benson and/or James) for matchups like Detroit but instead he added another finesse long range shooter (as if they needed another). I remembered an occasion where he trivialized Benson and James size and defensive skills when describing their readiness. Apparently those attributes weren’t important to him then so why are they such fear-factors now?

The Hawks dodge a bullet the last outing with Detroit. If they should lose this time, don’t blame it on size. That argument is no longer available.

kojak

January 3rd, 2013
6:47 pm

How about Trading Josh for Kevin Love and a bag of headbands?
Love=High basketball IQ
Josh=big dummy

doc

January 3rd, 2013
7:00 pm

beer is cold

looking forward to a scrappy game

tyger

January 3rd, 2013
7:04 pm

Hawks’ New Year Review:

NBA recognizes LD as Coach of the Month…
In res ipsa locquitur…

Teague inconsistent, 27pts. then 1-12???…
Assist-TO ratio horrid…wonder why no extension?
PR campaign getting old…time to move on…

Lou has skill-set, upside to advance to next round…
Athletic scorer w/ handles, leadership, upside, clutch…
In class of Westbrook, Rose, Irving, Holiday, Parker…
Scoring PGs w reliable inside/out game…

K.Korver prime example of LD rehab program…
KK was on scrap heap – old, injury-prone, pigeon-holed…
Now better all-around…shoots, rebounds, defends, leads…
With proper maintainance good for 2/3 more years…

JJenkins cracks line-up, shows he belongs…
Better than Bradley Beal, Hawks get steal late…
Lou-Jenkins is future backcourt…get on with it…
Young, versatile, aggressive…develop chemistry now…

Horford is Horford…double-double at anytime…
The “Machine” is back, consistency is his game…
Ditto for ZaZa…misses too many layups, but warrior…
Hawks sorely miss low-post easy buckets…but partly
Due to an under usage of Horford-ZaZa on the block…

Smoove remains an enigma…on cusp of stardom…
Has all the physical tools to be a great player…but
Offensive inconsistency in half court, his personal nemesis…
Whether/When he can crack his glass ceiling is $MM question…
His Rodman-ish defense, open court play merits All-star selection…
Especially w/ Bynum/Stoudamire/Granger out, D.Howard gone…

Tolliver pleasant surprise…will come in handy later…
Ivan Johnson’s minutes inconsistent…but still Ivan…
Stevenson reminds me of Salim…undisciplined…
Devin Harris capable, but unable…bad dogs!!!
Morrow shoots but can’t defend…opportunity fleeting…
Johan Petro shows pulse…doubt you can trade a cadaver…

Summary:

Hawks have won 6/8 versus below .500 teams…
Six wins is six wins, no matter who they come against…
But long-term reality dictates winning versus above .500 teams…
Blow outs by Thunder, Rockets show shortcomings…

Is answer on the roster? Possibly…
Those were long athletic teams with handles…
Get bigger, play guys with better handles…

Big Ray

January 3rd, 2013
7:25 pm

Al Horford is horrible, yet Danny Ferry will get something good for him.

Yep, he’s back….

Al Horford will get something in trade because he IS worth something.

Josh Smith was awesome against the Hornets. Love to see him do that against GOOD teams. On a consistent basis. He’s the most talented Hawk. Should make the All-star team this year. Hope he can tune that average up to about 18 and 8…that’s the stats that skinny-azz Gerald Wallace had when HE made the all-star team a couple/few years ago.

But we’ll see.

Big Ray

January 3rd, 2013
7:31 pm

I think one reason why Josh is not averaging the double-double that his talent says he’s capable of s too much fading to the perimeter on offense.

I’ll blame a chunk of that on LD.

Of course, I’m sure it’s Horford’s fault. I hear Josh is responsible for making Horford good in college, too….

Slimjr

January 3rd, 2013
7:31 pm

GSW @ 22-10 in the superior Western Conference as a 5th seed is proving to be the real deal after clipping the Clippers last night by 11!

Mark Jackson is on course to win COY!! Mark is some leader!

Slimjr

January 3rd, 2013
7:40 pm

To give you an idea how good the Western Conference is, the Houston Rockets are feasting on Eastern Conference foes @ 11-2 yet they are only 18-14 overall and are just a 6th seed. Wow…..

Eastern Conference= a mirage

Big Ray

January 3rd, 2013
7:43 pm

Tell you what, though.

The way Zaza has been playing…we could trade Al for a talented wing player, preferably one that is more SF oriented than SG oriented….we’d be fine with

Zaza – Center
Josh – PF
New Guy – SF
Lou/Korver – SG
Teague – PG

But in such a trade, I’d also want us to get another viable backup center. Or at least go sign one off the scrap heap. Damn near anything is better than Petro, who I hope never plays a single game in a Hawks uniform ever again.

Zaza isn’t my ideal starting center, but he’s been one hell of a rebounder and tough guy for us. Can’t block shots or defend the rim the way you’d like. But we’d be lost without him in a number of ways. Dude has the highest “rebounds per 40 minutes” of anybody on the team. Really appreciate his game this year, more than ever.

But I would not be surprised if we need him as a starter for a while…either after this trade deadline or possibly next season.

Even though a trade isn’t necessary (due to cap space) for this team to add more talent, it is just about necessary to get better balance and be a true contender for the Eastern Conference Finals.

We’re still not in the League of teams like Miami. Lack the historic cohesion of Boston (which they seem to have lost to some degree this season…maybe they’re just old like the Lakers). Not as talented with scoring as the Knicks.

Need something for sure. But might have to wait until summer to get it.

Slimjr

January 3rd, 2013
7:45 pm

OB, if MV7 ends up with Andy Reid in Kansas City, Vick will probably retire by the end of next season due to injuries sustained over the past two seasons with Andy…

Melo going for 45 again?

Big Ray

January 3rd, 2013
7:49 pm

Slimjr ,

Yeah, the West is definitely back.

Only Miami has what it takes to beat any of the Western Teams.

I thought Indiana might make a leap, and the Knicks have serious talent…but they have issues that just won’t go away, and a HC that I never saw taking ANY team to the last dance.

But Indy seems worse than last year so far. Hibbert will never be better than he was last year, I’m afraid…and that’s at the heart of most of it. They aren’t great a PG, either. Granger is a scorer, not a leader.

Boston is too old. Chicago doesn’t have Rose, and there is no absolute guarantee that he returns to world-beating form..particularly not this season.

Brooklyn is the biggest joke/mirage…if you ask me. Even I thought they could challenge Miami for the East. Instead, Avery gets fired, Deron is not showing that he’s a top 3 pg…or even a top 5 pg. Joe is Joe. Doing even less than he did here. Brook Lopez leads the team in scoring (but is a bit of a punk).

Wow…can they recoup? I figured they had more overall talent than the Knicks…

JaeEvolution

January 3rd, 2013
8:06 pm

“Could you post a direct link? I scanned around and didn’t see it. That’s huge if the Hawks are able to switch picks with BKN. There’s a very good chance the Hawks finish with the better record in both of those years and will have the opportunity to move up to BKN’s draft position if that’s true. C-Viv do you know anything about a provision of the Joe Johnson trade that will allow the Hawks to swap first round picks with BKN in TWO upcoming drafts?”

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/summary/2014

“Own or to BKN (ATL can swap ATL for BKN); may have HOU via BKN (1-14 Protected) If not already settled; may have BKN (ATL can swap ATL for BKN)”

Big Ray

January 3rd, 2013
8:07 pm

Judging by the voting, if Smith gets into the ASG, he does so as a reserve. Horford ain’t gonna make it at all, especially under the new rules. No chance whatsoever.

What’s disgusting is that Chris Bosh isn’t doing any more than Josh Smith. 18 ppg, 7.7 rpg. Less rebounds, and basically a single ppg more. But he’s on the Heat squad and is a multiple-time allstar, plus we all know this is a damn popularity contest.

Tyson Chandler, are you f-in’ kidding me? 12 ppg and 10 rpg…blocks less than 1 shot per game (Yeah, that’s gotta kill all the “real center” types who think he is so damn awesome). Why does he deserve a nod?

Joakim Noah has very similar scoring and rebounding stats, but at least he averages more than 2 blocks per game and also dishes out more assists (4.4) than either Smith or Horford, not to mention 1.4 steals per game. His claim is more legit than Chandler’s any day.

Come to think of it, if it weren’t for the scoring, you could say Noah is as good or better a stat-stuffer than Josh Smith…hmmmmm…that really is saying something. What’s scary is Noah is shooting free throws WAY better…

Garnett is a legend…and so he continues to get the votes from rabid Boston fans, idiots, and sports pundits (if you think they don’t vote on their own time on their own computers, you’re crazy). And you know it’s true because his numbers are now down to the best Marvin Williams was ever able to put up (actually, slightly better still, ha ha) – 14 ppg and 7 rpg.

Pierce gets in because he still is putting up almost 20 ppg. Aging more gracefully than Joe Johnson, that’s for certain…

Carmelo and Lebron – starters. Period.

keith

January 3rd, 2013
8:08 pm

“JOSH SMITH MUST GO” TEMPLATE TO BUILDING THIS TEAM!!!

Josh Smith has peaked… This is as good as it will ever be with Josh…Time to permanently move Al Horford to the “4″ position, where he is most comfortable.

Al Horford is our “HORACE GRANT”. He is better basketball player that Horace Grant. I have all the confidence in the world that once Josh leaves, Al’s game will Blossom.

Zaza Paculia is probably a better basketball player than say “Luc Longley” or Bill Wennington.
We need to upgrade here with a shot blocker…

Kyle Korver is an adequate “3″ . He can play Champioship Basketball. Korver is MVP right now..

Lou Will is an excellent “short-term” answer at the “2″. However, We need a “Ginobli, D. Wade, Melo type” to play at the 2. Someone who can get to the free throw line and take the game over.
We do not have that right now…

PG-Jeff Teague is adequate with room to grow??? Could use more confidence from our starting “1″. Lou Will may grow into the “Perfect Point.”

tyger

January 3rd, 2013
8:14 pm

Hawks until trade deadline:

Lou D. Harris Teague
Jenkins Morrow Stevenson
Korver Tolliver Scott
Smith Ivan Petro
Horford
ZaZa

showcase Harris, Morrow…
Teague, Stevenson known commodities…
It’s going down February 21st…

Slimjr

January 3rd, 2013
8:17 pm

Al would help his team tremendously if he would start drawing fouls in the post..

Josh and Al are liabilities in the post and it is putting to much pressure on the guards to make shots from the perimeter..

An unbalanced team can only go so far.. How far? It depends on the match-ups but this will haunt them in the playoffs.. Playoffs?

Big Ray

January 3rd, 2013
8:18 pm

I dont think he ever leaves… he just knows that this is a Al Horford Fan Club of a blog Page and they hate Josh, who is better than Al because they share the same position and ultimately the hawks need a center, Which means either Josh is going to remain the power forward and we trade Al or the reverse…. lets not kid ourselves. TS comes and goes at will. He just know what to expect on this “controlled blogosphere”.

Well, we’ve had our fun and our differences over the years, but all good things come to an end. Some not-so-good things, as well. Truth is, I think Horford WILL be traded. And I also think it took a season without Joe to reveal which guy is the keeper.

Nah. I think both players are revealing who they will be. Some folks will always hate Josh or rag on him every time he makes a mistake.

The truth is, he’s playing better han he ever has. Hating on him is silly. I think hating on Horford is silly too, he is what he is. Not a bad player by any means, but not the best on the team and not going to get any better really.

Horford has indeed backed off some on the defensive end. Gone is the guy who helped “bring it” to the Celtics in the 2008 playoffs. I had hoped that rugged guy would return…but he hasn’t. Does he block some shots? Yeah. Does he rebound? Yeah. But he just IS NOT rugged like he once was.

With Joe Johnson gone, it became clear that both guys could get better.

I think that the keeper has been revealed. It’s Josh.

Al has stepped up on offense, but not stepped up at his position. The guy who actually stepped up at Center was none other than Zaza…

I’d trade Horford for a very talented wing player or at least a scoring/rebounding wing and a decently rugged big guy to split time at center with Zaza.

I still think we’re going to have a hell of a time getting one of the better “more pure Center” types on our roster. We have the money, but how do you get such a guy?

Considering how thing are going in Laker-land…we may still have a shot at Dwight.

But one wonders if he’ll get his head screwed on straight…or is it just that hard to play with Kobe (and in D’Antoni’s system)?

Slimjr

January 3rd, 2013
8:20 pm

Detroit will dribble penetrate the Hawks to death.. Good luck with the interior help defense..

More than likely the escort service will be fully operational..

Slimjr

January 3rd, 2013
8:25 pm

“Horford has indeed backed off some on the defensive end. Gone is the guy who helped “bring it” to the Celtics in the 2008 playoffs. I had hoped that rugged guy would return…but he hasn’t. Does he block some shots? Yeah. Does he rebound? Yeah. But he just IS NOT rugged like he once was.

With Joe Johnson gone, it became clear that both guys could get better.

I think that the keeper has been revealed. It’s Josh.

Al has stepped up on offense, but not stepped up at his position. The guy who actually stepped up at Center was none other than Zaza…

I’d trade Horford for a very talented wing player or at least a scoring/rebounding wing and a decently rugged big guy to split time at center with Zaza.” -Big Ray-

B Ray stepping up.

Fair warning, get your shields ready!

Big Ray

January 3rd, 2013
8:30 pm

Slimjr ,

Well, that all starts with reliable, consistent post game moves…like 2 or 3 of them. Al will be drawing fouls only when he attacks the basket quickly by taking same size or bigger guys off the dribble. He has next to no post game….

Slimjr

January 3rd, 2013
8:30 pm

Knicks up on the Spurs near the end of the 1st half!

They are out rebounding the Spurs by 9! Huge..
They are shooting 53.3% from 3 pt land..

Big Ray

January 3rd, 2013
8:35 pm

Keith ,

That’s one side of the argument, I’ll grant you that.

But what about Al’s game makes you think he’ll suddenly “blossom” with Josh gone? Right now, both guys get a good deal of their assists by passing to each other.

I can’t count how many times I’ve seen Josh through alley oops to Al….just sayin’.

The problem I have with your argument (your argument, not YOU as a person) is that his offensive game does not suggest he’s going to become an 18-20 ppg scorer.

Could he be good as a PF? Yes, I believe so. But he doesn’t defend stretch 4s well. Can he shut down Bosh? Hell no. Bosh will eat him alive at that position because Al can’t defend him the way Josh can. Josh can follow Bosh to the perimeter, Al gets roasted out there (he’s not that kind of defender, truthfully). But guess what? That’s what you have to do to beat Miami.

Again…with little or no post game, Al has to beat the 4s in this League with speed. Many of them are as quick as he is, so that advantage is lost unless he develops a post game . He hasn’t, and he’s not NEAR the straight up defender or help defender that Josh is.

So again….what are you seeing that supports your argument? I’m not playing devil’s advocate here…I really want to know your thoughts.

Big Ray

January 3rd, 2013
8:42 pm

Slimjr ,

Well you’re right…unless Jeff Teague wakes his “dog” up. I hate when he slacks off defensively. Defense always starts with the PG.

As for the Pistons…bad matchup for us. Why? Horford is every bit as strong and thick as many of the Pistons “bigs” but there is a major matchup problem – Greg Monroe.

He’s taller, every bit as quick, and has smoother game than Horford.

Horford kicked his can last time…but it was really Josh who turned that game on it’s head. He had some help from Teague, Lou, and Morrow of course.

But it was Josh.

And that’s why he’s the keeper. He’s the game changer. Horford isn’t.

doc

January 3rd, 2013
8:50 pm

good tv on nbatv

the bird legacy

i forgot how much a magician he is. i stil remember how he stole one from the hawks in 80. something else.

he really must laugh at salaries for pretenders.

Rev in Tampa

January 3rd, 2013
9:13 pm

Big Ray,

I’m really enjoying your analysis.

Slimjr,

I really hope your Knicks go down tonight. Looking forward to seeing Hawks in 2nd in the East.

Slimjr

January 3rd, 2013
9:23 pm

Hahaha @ Rev.

Yea Rev the Knicks are going to earn this one tonight..The Spurs have the best road record in the NBA, also they are red hot winners of 7 in a row!

Big Ray is on FIRE!

Slimjr

January 3rd, 2013
9:30 pm

Rev, I look forward to one of his [Fan Club] members rebuttal..lol!

BTW, THE KNICKS ARE PULLING AWAY! UP 77-60 early in the 4th Qtr!

Chandler dunked in Duncan’s grill and then patted said dude on his behind for trying to block the dunk! Hahaha

Rev in Tampa

January 3rd, 2013
9:37 pm

Congrats to you, Slimjr.

Dang it!

High-sider

January 3rd, 2013
9:40 pm

I want the Hawks to get the 1 seed (in the East) so “Long-term Deal” (LD) can coach the 2013 Eastern Conference All-Star Team. Josh (Smith) should surely make the All-Star Team if that happens.

Slimjr

January 3rd, 2013
9:41 pm

Rev, congrats to Coach Woodson if he can pull out a tough win against one of the elites in this League..

I’m just a spectator…lol.. But thanks anyway Sir..

Slimjr

January 3rd, 2013
9:46 pm

Knicks putting a can of whip azz on the Spurs. They are leading 98-76 with 2:34 left in the game..Nice…

Slimjr

January 3rd, 2013
10:01 pm

doc,

JR Smith went 9-17, 1-6[3 pt] for 20 pts…He was +27.. Almost took 20 shots?

doc

January 3rd, 2013
10:16 pm

careful slim

pop your bubble

knicks 2 games in 6 days

old spurs 4 games in 5 days

see anything revealing there?

pops treatened to send his guys home early but probably didnt want another fine of a quarter mil.

only thing against fatigue is they had blown out the previous 3 and old folks got to their rocking chairs after 30 mpg

;-)

careful is all i am saying. jr is going to a new level.

doc

January 3rd, 2013
10:19 pm

who woke up the sleeping tiger?

SteveW

January 3rd, 2013
10:29 pm

Buddy – I don’t know how to post a link from my ipad. I tried, but it didn’t work. If you google something like “2013 nba draft picks by team”, besides the normal draft stuff, that should come up. I’ll try to help some more later if you can’t find it. I’ve used the site extensively in the past, and always been spot on in regards to the draft picks owed and received for each team well into the future. 2018 at least

SteveW

January 3rd, 2013
10:31 pm

“NBA draft picks owed”. Is what I just googled for it to come up Buddy

doc

January 3rd, 2013
10:32 pm

big ray:

“Of course, I’m sure it’s Horford’s fault. I hear Josh is responsible for making Horford good in college, too….”

classic

O'brien

January 3rd, 2013
10:38 pm

Big Ray,

what if hawks trade Horford for granger and a pick at the end of the season?

Why would Indy do it? david West will be a free agent, and pacers may prefer the younger Horford who is signed to a reasonable contract. They can play him at PF with Hibbert at center, and he can also spell Hibbert at Center at times. Plus they have Paul George to take over at SF.

Why would Hawks do it? Although Granger is soft at times, he is a legit SF who can score. Plus he would only have one year left on his deal, so hawks could re-sign him if he plays well, or let him go for more salary cap flexibility one season later. And we would get a pick to even it out.

SteveW

January 3rd, 2013
10:40 pm

Big Ray – You got Jefferson, Hickson and Dwight as FA’s at C. Jefferson is declining, I’m scared away from him unless its a deal. Dalembart is a fa also I think. Millsap at Pf if you wanted to keep al at c. Have josh and Millsap as Fs. But millsaps been down this season also.

doc

January 3rd, 2013
10:41 pm

after reading the 7:43 br, i think we may have staying power. one injury to the heat or knicks and we stay healthy we can get beat down in the finals. heh heh