Atlanta Hawks: Harris, Morrow not on trip to Houston
Vivlamore reporting.
The Hawks will be without guard Devin Harris (sore left foot) and Anthony Morrow ( right hip strain) for Monday’s game against the Rockets. Neither traveled with the team to Houston on Sunday.
Harris will miss his seventh straight game due to the foot injury. Morrow will miss his second straight game with the hip injury. Whether either player will be able to join the team for Tuesday’s game against the Hornets in New Orleans is undetermined.
Josh Smith, who missed Saturday’s game with a strained right hip flexor, made the trip to Houston and could return to the lineup Monday or Tuesday.
- Chris Vivlamore
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doc
December 31st, 2012
11:46 am
hinrich was brought here to cover for a huge mistake in doing a long term contract with bibby. stupid, very stupid. it was sund who made that mistake along with the marvin mistake and almost lost jsh to billy king and the sixers. i hardly call that a shining moment when you are only trying to cya the shine on your azz for showing it so many times.
for the record, i liked hinrich two years earlier instead of bibby.
doc
December 31st, 2012
11:47 am
always aj, and respect.
Just Joe
December 31st, 2012
11:59 am
Trade exception for Korver.
Hinrich was signed with part of the Bulls’ MLE.
I still don’t understand why those were separate deals (S&T Hinrich). Bulls using part of the MLE put them up against the hard cap for this year.
doc
December 31st, 2012
12:17 pm
hfc if you are the blog police i will gladly pay my fine to communicate with ehom i want and what subject.
if you are not i suggest you scroll it. in other words dont read it. my feelings wont be hurt at all.
Astro Joe
December 31st, 2012
12:36 pm
With a little playoff success, Falcons will likely lose at least one coordinator.
Ken Strickland
December 31st, 2012
12:42 pm
This is just pure speculation on my part, but what if mgt encouraged Drew to start playing JJenkins to get him ready to take on what could be a bigger role after the trade deadline.
It could be an indication of mgts willingness or intention of making a deadline trade that could involve DHarris, DStevenson, and/or AMorrow. If we could pickup a decent backup SF with some size, rebounding and DEF skills in that trade, it would definitely improve the team.
Other than ATolliver and Petro, I don’t believe the Hawks will attempt to trade any other players at the deadline, unless someone just blows us away with an offer for Josh.
The Hawks have 2 1st rd picks. We can trade one, along with an expiring contract or 2, and use the other in the upcoming draft. We’re in a position, and have more than enough desirable assets, to improve this yrs team at the trade deadline. And what’s even more important, we can do it without having to trade Josh, or any of our other key pieces.
I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that by the trade deadline DFerry will have seen enough to make a decision on which of our potential FAs he wants to resign. The remaining FAs can be used at the trade deadline and packaged along with one of our 1st and/or 2nd rd picks.
Astro Joe
December 31st, 2012
12:50 pm
Strickland, folk have been suggesting since July that Morrow, Korver, DeShawn, Petro and/or Harris would not make it past the trade deadline. It is a transition year… build their trade value early and then hopefully move them for future assets. That is why I have been saying for weeks that playing jenkins in his first 30 games is not all of that important. This is a throw-away year. The REAL Danny Ferry team will be built this summer. All reports indicate that he wanted Lopez and/or Brooks for Joe. He got neither. That suggests that he was more interested in the cap relief than he was in the returning assets. It is a transition year. An interim season. Anyone who purchases a Korver, Harris, Stevenson or Morrow jersey has money to burn and is only interested in owning a conversation piece. And frankly, rather Jenkins is ready or not is also unimportant. It isn’t as if Ferry will not trade an expiring contract for a future asset because of the status of Jenkins. I seriously doubt that Jenkins’ readiness is a factor in future trades or LD’s evaluation.
Rev in Tampa
December 31st, 2012
12:51 pm
I want to weigh in on the LD resigning debate but haven’t had time to read all the comments. My initial reaction, however, is to praise him for his success thus far, but I’m still not sold on him as the Hawks coach going forward.
Danny Ferry has a definite plan for all the expiring contracts this summer. Along with that I think he is likely to make a coaching change as well. Lovie Smith was just fired this morning after a 10-6 record. Nobody is safe.
Rev in Tampa
December 31st, 2012
12:55 pm
Rockets are coming into tonight’s game after getting beat by the Spurs and the Thunder. Now they have the Hawks. This is a pretty brutal stretch for the Rockets.
Rev in Tampa
December 31st, 2012
12:56 pm
Hopefully the Hawks will not allow Harden to go for 45 against them again.
hfc95
December 31st, 2012
1:11 pm
doc i am the blog swat team, i dont mind non hawks related topics but it seems the same people can not get over a few subjects ie mike vick, jamal crawford, kirk hinrich etc and its continuation is a bit annoying as yourself and the others that continue that convo are for the most part intelligent NBA/sports fans and id rather just see the exchange of ideas/thoughts of more contemporary issues, thats all.
jo
December 31st, 2012
1:15 pm
ok, but WHEN will D harris be back? if the injury is serious he needs to go home and lets replace him for the rest of the year. When he is in, he is pretty good (not a hater) but he seems to be out most of the time so lets jettison the floatsom.
Ken Strickland
December 31st, 2012
1:26 pm
ASTRO JOE-Can’t disagree with some of what you said. I can believe JJenkins development is a nonissue with LDrew, but I seriously doubt if it’s a nonissue to Ferry.
If Ferry was even remotely serious about establishing a development for his rookies and younger players, surely JJenkins would head his list of players to be developed. I don’t see this as a throw away yr, although few saw this team coming together so quickly and performing so successfully.
I do feel that this is an evaluation yr, considering the number of pending FAs we have on our roster. Ferry will attempt to resign some, possibly trade others, while letting the remaining ones walk. His most important decisions will involve JTeague, JSmith, IJohnson and ZPachulia.
I believe KKorver has proven his value, along with LWilliams. The rest, excluding our rookies, are on the elimination block. I see 8 returning players off this yrs roster(Zaza, Horford, Josh, Lou, Ivan, Jenkins, Scott, and Teague). Add a FA or 2 and a draft pick or 2, and we have next yrs roster.
Buckhead Benny
December 31st, 2012
1:31 pm
Is there any trade value for Josh Smith now with his expiring contract? I think he is so over rated with low basketball IQ- Finally seeing some good ball movement and good basketball from I think players that can shoot and pass the ball, i.e. Kyle Korver, John Jenkins, Anthony Morrow, Louis Williams, Jeff Teague, Deshawn Stevenson, and Al Horford, and Zaza-
Only guy that fits the ole Joe Johnson Marvin Williams is guess who Josh “ME” Smith- Let him be somebody elses problem and lets get some players or some picks for this guy- Our GM looks like a genius now with the Marvin and especially Joe Johnson trade- Joe is a Max player averaging 16 points a game with an under 500 team in Brooklyn he looks worse than he did last year- I think Josh only gets worse- He is an above average player with great skills- That’s basically a lot of the NBA, fyi-
Good thing people forget we get Brooklyn’s first round pick this year that is looking like a 15-18th pick in the draft, fyi and could be lower if they keep tanking it hopefully.
Lets dump Josh while we sill can.
Just Joe
December 31st, 2012
1:38 pm
BB…not Brooklyn’s pick….Houston’s “lottery protected” 1st rd pick, and we already own Houston’s “top-40 protected” 2nd rd pick.
and Josh has lots of value around the league. Boston & Houston would be first in line if he became available.
doc
December 31st, 2012
1:38 pm
hfc then stick around and we can annoy each other.
that is what keeps a blog rolling.
choose any topic you want and see if anyone wants to annoy back.
no rules except for proper decorum and not stealing others names is what i see but by no means policing unless taking exception.
keith
December 31st, 2012
1:43 pm
Emeka Okafor
I feel that Okafor is a SCRUB….I would not make a deal for this STIFF….HOWEVER, if his contract is expiring, I would deal for him and a pick to rid us of SMOOVE-LESS!!!!!
Rev in Tampa
December 31st, 2012
1:56 pm
Ken,
I am pretty well in agreement with you, however, I do not see Scott being a long-term NBA contributor. In my mind he is a cheap place-holder for the roster and an extra person for practices.
hfc95
December 31st, 2012
1:56 pm
Im gona lay out three different qbs stats you tell me who you would take
QB A-109 career games-25,825 total yds, completion 56.3%, 157 TD 130 Turnovers
QB B-99 career games-26,245 total yds, completion 64.7%, 182 TD 119 Turnovers
QB C-118 career games-22,272 total yards, completion 64.3% 124 TD 95 Turnovers
All 3 are relatively equal qbs, games played are close enough. Any ideas on who any of the three QBS are?
cdog
December 31st, 2012
2:01 pm
please take lou williams and za za pachulia out when both stop playing defense.look at their defensive stats and you will see both for what they are.williams gets beat off the dribble with ease every game because hes too lazy to move his feet but he moves them on offense which is no good when you give up many points to your opponent.pachulia has everyone fooled.only times he rebounds is when the ball comes directly to him.if danny ferry does not find a center and goes with pachulia and larry drew as head coach, the hawks will have a 1 and done exit , if they make the playoffs
W.R. Terrell
December 31st, 2012
2:39 pm
I want to see the same starting lineup tonight that the HAWKS used against the Pacers. I know there are some folks that think the “Smoove” makes the HAWKS a better team and that is simply not the case. I say rest him for at least 5 more games and see what the outcome is. LD may start him tonight but the chemistry that’s being developed will fade rapidly. The “Smoove” has a lot of athletic talent, I mean amazing talent but he is a cancer to team play because he just cannot play to his strengths. ZaZa earned the right to start, ALs game is a lot better when the “Smoove” is not on the floor, the rest of the team benefits too but for all those who think highlioght reels makes a basketball player then keeping wishing and looking for “FOOLS” gold.
W.R. Terrell
December 31st, 2012
2:59 pm
@ Doc. Have you ever wondered why Philly paid an aging, injury prone, lost a step and leaping ability Elton Brand over a young energetic and athletic, jump to the moon shot blocker Josh Smith? It’s called common sense. Anyone who thinks that teams will be lining up for the “Smoove” at trade deadline are seriously ill. The “Smoove” is not coachable and serious teams who want to win will not tolerate that kind of distraction. There’s not a team in the NBA that will not give the “Smoove” an outside shot, they are well aware that he is the HAWKS weakest link.
High-sider
December 31st, 2012
3:04 pm
To: doc, Slimjr, Rod from College Park, Najeh Davenpoop, keith and other bloggers if intererested (my apologies hfc95 aka “the blog swat team” [LOL])
The link below has a discussion of RG3 (Robert Griffin, III) and MV7 (Mike Vick) starting approximately @15:26 and @36:55. There is also a discussion of who should be NFL MVP starting approximately @42:08 as well as a discussion on race among head coaches (in sports) starting at approximately @56:20.
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=8796076
LouWill83
December 31st, 2012
3:08 pm
Anyone knows the status of Josh Smith Tonight?
cp
December 31st, 2012
3:12 pm
I dont see Mike Scott on the roster next year. He is a undersized pf with no athleticism, plays no d, and prefers jump shots. I watched him in college and wasnt a fan.
I honestly think the damage Vick caused to the Falcons is overblown. They had one bad year because of his legal issues and to be honest with better coaching they should have won at least 4 more games that year. It was more of an embarrassment to the team than anything. They had one bad season, many more previous to that. It was a blessing for the Falcons so I dont understand why some are still so mad at dude.
High-sider
December 31st, 2012
3:19 pm
keith,
I think Okafor has two years left on his contract. Again, the trade scenario was for the “disgruntled” (Atlanta Hawks’ fans) concerning Josh Smith aka “the ‘Smoove.’” I’m sure those Hawks’ fans upset with “the ‘Smoove’” would love to see him (Josh Smith) end up on a last place team especially if that last place team is in the Eastern Conference and the Southeast Division. They (those “disgruntled” fans) would see that (Josh on a last place team) as a sign of “poetic justice” and “comeuppance” for (the) “Smoove.”
I’m entertaining myself on this blog – nothing (really) serious.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a6a2tmk
Slimjr
December 31st, 2012
3:25 pm
cp, if ICE Man lose another playoff game and go 0-4 the Fan base will start to turn on him.. Coach Smith will be good as gone..Greenbay, Seattle, and the 49′ers are all formidable opponents for these 2012 Falcons for sure.
No more excuses.. This playoff game in two weeks is a must win for the Falcons.
The Hawks need Josh tonight on the road..Without him, they have no shot to defeat Houston..
doc
December 31st, 2012
3:37 pm
w r me thinks what i say is not going to agree with you
we were lucky billy king made his decision
go back and see i said josh’s numbers over the next five years would fsse exceed anything elton could do. i huge waste of money for philly
josh on philly might have been an al star by now
i dint think we would have matched philly as we did memphis
it was a travesty the way we treated josh much like the knicks did lin … “son, go find your contract.”
billy king did us an even greater favor by taking jj off our hands. not a more one sided trade sonce bk gave sheed to the pistons along with a title.
king will not last much longer with the russian mafia.
as for qb’s let me know records as well. by the numbers i guess i go with b and that is who you want me to say.
LouWill83
December 31st, 2012
3:39 pm
Slimjr: The Hawks need Josh tonight on the road..Without him, they have no shot to defeat Houston.
Absolutely, this will be a blow out game without Josh. Harden will get 8 FT Attemps with Josh available, and 16 if he isnt
hfc95
December 31st, 2012
3:40 pm
QB A:Mike Vick
QB B:Tony Romo
QB C:Matt Schaub
doc
December 31st, 2012
3:40 pm
high sider will check it out later when with computer
doc
December 31st, 2012
3:44 pm
i really dont like romo
the low percentage and higher to ratio suggestive for vick.
none of them premier to start a team with.
LouWill83
December 31st, 2012
3:46 pm
MW Peace did Harden the biggest favor of his career by elbowing him; now you can’t touch the guy. 11 FT Attempts per game come on now. How much will he get tonight. hmmm im feeling 18-20 from the Line. JEEZ how did we not switch harden for joe johnson
Nate ArchiBALL
December 31st, 2012
3:56 pm
@ doc – So correct. A really bad move by the 76ers signing Brand. I think he was coming off an Achilles tendon injury (played only the last 8 games the previous season). Philly ended up eating the last 18 million of Brand’s contract thru amnesty…..Josh was a RFA and the Hawks stated that they would match any offer – which is what they did with the Memphis offer that Josh signed.
doc
December 31st, 2012
4:03 pm
romo kind of lost me with that little blonde in the box with a pink cowboy jersey pn with his number on it.
sorry to even bring that image up again
disturbing
doc
December 31st, 2012
4:15 pm
nate i think they might have choked on what philly has offered
keith
December 31st, 2012
4:42 pm
W.R. Terrell
December 31st, 2012
2:39 pm
DITTOI!!
We need to zone the Rockets tonight…2-1-2 …Slow Harden down a little. we can’t stop him, only contain him!!!
Astro Joe
December 31st, 2012
4:45 pm
Strickland, if Ferry is serious about player development, then he hires a staff to develop players and he monitors their progress during practices. Here’s a question for you, if Jenkins wasn’t ready to contribute to Ferry’s overall goal of creating a winning culture from day 1 (above other players at his position and/or with his skill set), what would you have had LD do? Maybe work with him for the time needed to get him ready to contribute? And what if Ferry attends virtually every practice at home and has a trusted eye (Bob Weiss and/or Atkinson) who attends practices on the road to assess the progress of Jenkins (I’m excluding Scott because the number of late 2nd round picks who earn consistent playing time in their rookie year can likely be counted on a single hand for every two draft classes)?
The mistake I believe that you are making (which is made frequently around here) is that Ferry has the same access to the readiness of individual players and the way they are being developed as the most ardent fans. That is patently false. How many of us can walk into a practice? A drill session? Film study? How many of us can review practice film of the rookies? Or have access to a documented “improvement plan” that was likely created for Jenkins? How many of us know Jenkins’ strength and conditioning levels during pre-draft workouts vs. his current physical abilities after 4+ months with a professional trainer? How many of us know if he has mastered 25% of the playbook, or 50% or 100%? I suspect none of us, but I think that information is at Ferry’s fingertips (or an email away).
So I would NOT assume that Ferry is looking at minutes played on a game boxscore to evaluate LD’s player development abilities.
Sameba
December 31st, 2012
5:27 pm
cdog
December 31st, 2012
2:01 pm
…pachulia has everyone fooled.only times he rebounds is when the ball comes directly to him…
—————————————————————————————————————————————–
And most importantly, he is fooling the Probability Theory. Dude, you could easily win a Nobel prize in Mathemathical Sciences for establishing the notion that Mr. Pachulia is somehow avoiding basic principles of Statistics and thus manages to have one of the highest rebounding rates on the team. great idea, but only little thing remains to be done, prove it
vava74
December 31st, 2012
5:35 pm
Particularly loaded with bull…
Trade Josh for Okafor and filler?
Josh us a top 20 player in this league.
He is at the heart of 75% of our runs with his defense. He is a human wrecking ball.
Does he wreck us as well with some of his mistakes? Heck yes, but we are sitting pretty in the standings with a make shift roster and you can all bet you @sses that you can thank Josh.
Josh is always there, ready for battle and playing pationately. He just needs a couple of nudges more in the right direction.
Slimjr
December 31st, 2012
5:37 pm
Hey High-sider, thanks for the link!
Enjoying the conversation on 1st take for sure!
terrell
December 31st, 2012
5:43 pm
If they do Astro, it’ll be Koetter. Cant see anyone giving olan another shot.
terrell
December 31st, 2012
5:45 pm
“Nolan”
MattP
December 31st, 2012
5:50 pm
Williams at 2 against Harden? Interesting seeing how Drew likes to play the matchup game.