Atlanta Hawks: Harris, Morrow not on trip to Houston

Vivlamore reporting.

The Hawks will be without guard Devin Harris (sore left foot) and Anthony Morrow ( right hip strain) for Monday’s game against the Rockets. Neither traveled with the team to Houston on Sunday.

Harris will miss his seventh straight game due to the foot injury. Morrow will miss his second straight game with the hip injury. Whether either player will be able to join the team for Tuesday’s game against the Hornets in New Orleans is undetermined.

Josh Smith, who missed Saturday’s game with a strained right hip flexor, made the trip to Houston and could return to the lineup Monday or Tuesday.

- Chris Vivlamore

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Astro Joe

December 30th, 2012
5:40 pm

Harris and Morrow have dang-near negative trade value at this point. We’d have to throw in a few dozen Krispy Kreme donuts just to get another team to take these busted up players with expiring contracts.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

December 30th, 2012
5:58 pm

Devin Harris has played perfectly fine this season when healthy. I have no idea where these Devin Harris haters come from. The only knock on him is he has issues staying healthy. People act like he is Cedric Bozeman or Matt Freije

victor

December 30th, 2012
6:06 pm

Both Harris and Morrow will have high trade vallue because they have expiring contracts. They have also played pretty good ball and I wouldnt trade them uness i got really good value for them

Reggie

December 30th, 2012
6:27 pm

Harris and Morrow to the Lakers for Antwan Jamison who as 6 straight dnp-cd. Those 2 fit Dantoni run and gun system and Jamison provides the Hawks the scoring small forward they need and more scoring off the bench.

Blast

December 30th, 2012
6:32 pm

Lou needs to stay with the starting unit. Beautiful game/win last night.

O'Brien

December 30th, 2012
6:36 pm

FTPB,

Big Ray,

If LD does not get a new contract, I think it will be because Ferry wants to bring in his own guy (maybe one of the Spurs assistants).

Buddy Grizzard

December 30th, 2012
7:00 pm

“you would adjust your management of the team based on fan comments.”

You missed the part where I said fans on this blog don’t matter, high end season ticket holders matter.

Ken Strickland

December 30th, 2012
7:19 pm

OBRIEN-I also agree that Ferry won’t resign Drew despite what the team does. In addition to wanting to bring in his own HC, his decision will most likely be based on what Drew didn’t do. And what he didn’t do is show a committment to developing and playing rookies and younger players.

Ferry made it known almost immediately after being hired that he valued the development of rookies and younger players. He also said he wanted to establish a player development program and indicated our 2 draft picks would definitely be on the opening roster.

Over the past 2-3yrs, Drew’s chosen to cut his draft picks in favor of minimum contract and/or past their prime vets like JCollins, LDampier, MBibby, JStackhouse, VRad, WGreen, JPargo, KHinrich, EThomas, JPowell etc.

We need a HC that’s on the same page with his GM as far as decipline, agenda, and player personnel decisions are concerned. It just doesn’t appear that’s the case with Drew and Ferry. I’ll bet Ferry cringes everytime he sees Josh continuing to play to his weaknesses rather than his strengths, while Drew does what appears to be absolutely nothing.

keith

December 30th, 2012
7:36 pm

Ken Strickland
December 30th, 2012
7:19 pm

Dittio on that…I do not understand why Danny sent Drew to Israel though? It does not make any sense other than it’s a smokescreen…..

ejh

December 30th, 2012
7:39 pm

If the Hawks finishes 2nd or 3rd in the east, and dare I say first. If a coach does this with no superstars andd team full of new faces (9)and Danny Ferry fires this guy who would be coach of the year, he is stupid as a GM. During the Pre-season analysis on NBA TV Mike Fratello said that if Larry Drew was able to get this team with all it’s new players to the Playoffs as an eigth seed he deserves coach of the year. It sounds as if a lot of people here wants LD fired regardless of the success he is having, to me that means most of you are just biased. If LD had got off to a start with this team like Mike Brown with Lakers or Avery with the nets you might have some validity to your thoughts. But he did not with less higher profiled called superstar players. The man deserves a gauranteed 3 year extension, because if Danny Ferry Does not give it to him LD will find a job pretty easy next based on his success with this hawks team.

Ken Strickland

December 30th, 2012
7:50 pm

EJH-Ferry’s approach is based on his vision for the Hawks longterm. Based on Drew’s decisions and moves to this point, especially when it comes to our rookies and less experienced players, it doesn’t appear he shares Ferry’s longterm vision. Like Woodson before him, Drew seems to be playing for a new contract on his terms rather than Ferrys.

ejh

December 30th, 2012
7:53 pm

I shall also state Danny Ferry did not expect this team to have this kind of success. He Jetisoned Marvin and Joe to rebuild. He thought this team would play hard and compete but not be the third best team in the east. This may have something to do with the coach and his staff and the way the players play hard for him and respect him. LD has dealt with two players who have strong personalities in Josh and Ivan, but yet they respect him and play hard for him. This team does not quit on their coach as in Brooklyn. Danny Ferry did all those transactions this past summer to be a player if free agency next summer, i.e. gathering now two first round picks and 2 second round picks. He truly believed this team was in tear down and rebuild, the coach has now made him have to take a second look, as the team is not that far off from being a true contender. Coach Drew and the hawks record speaks for itself. Also look at the Oakland Raiders; they hired Mike McKenzie as the new GM, he fired coach Hugh Jackson to bring in his own coach from Denver, this is after Hugh Jackson Had the Raiders at 8-8 record and competing for that divison’s title. Now look at where they are. All because the GM wanted to bring in his own guy and now they have taken a step or two back.

Deadpool

December 30th, 2012
8:15 pm

I’m actually kinda happy about this news because hopefully that means more playing time for John Jenkins who I think should be getting minutes over both of those guys.

keith

December 30th, 2012
8:23 pm

HOPING JOSH SITS THIS ONE OUT……

I hope Josh Smith sits this one out…and the next game as well….I am curious to see if the Indiana win was an anomaly…Will we miss Josh???

Just Joe

December 30th, 2012
8:35 pm

I think Drew’s future has everything to do with his offensive/defensive philosophies and how closely they align with Ferry’s. My opinion is that it has absolutely nothing to do with how well this team does this year (unless something crazy happens like us advancing to the conference finals). Ferry is not here so that he can oversee LD doing things the “LD way”. He will want a head coach that is an extension of himself and that shares the same thoughts on how to build a championship team.

Blast

December 30th, 2012
8:45 pm

Shoot! If it’s about developing rookies, Drew still has a whale of time to develop his two rookies, so I don’t even think that’s a moot point. Now, if he stops playing Jenkins after his last performance, then y’all might have a point. But this Hawks team has over achieved so far, and no way the head coach does not get some credit for it. Especially if they continue to play well and stay close to the top in the East.

Just Joe

December 30th, 2012
8:51 pm

Houston must be desperate for defense if they’re thinking about cutting Daequan Cook and signing James Anderson.

JaeEvolution

December 30th, 2012
9:02 pm

“Otto Porter

Shot creation: Porter is a skilled 6′8, 205-pound small forward with an advanced mid-range game. He gets most of his points within the flow of the offense, but his go-to move is posting up and using his length to get off nearly incontestable shots from anywhere within 15-18 feet off the rim. At the next level, he’ll need to put on weight in order to establish post position against bigger defenders. (13 points a game on 52 percent shooting, 2.5 free throws attempted)

Shooting: Porter is a good shooter, but what stands out is the quality of shots he gets. He rarely forces the action in order to take a contested 20+ footer, a common problem with many 6′8+ wings who make the game harder than it needs to be. Nevertheless, since he won’t be a primary offensive option in the NBA, he’ll need to continue refining his spot-up 3-point shot in order to space the floor. (Shooting 50/54/67, 0.5 three-pointers a game)

Defense: He has quick feet and long arms (7′1 wingspan) on a 6′8 frame, which should allow him to match up with players at the 2 and the 3. As he gains weight, he may eventually become a small-ball 4. At the college level, Porter is a terror as a help-side defender, particularly in Georgetown’s 2-3 zone defense, with his length and feel for the game allowing him to fill up a box score. (2.4 steals, 1.6 blocks a game)

Rebounding: Porter’s length, athleticism and activity allow him to clear the glass at a high level for a small forward. (Averaging 6.9 rebounds a game)

Passing: Like most of Thompson’s Hoya players, Porter is a pass-first player with excellent vision who knows how to find the open man. He also has the ability to run the pick-and-roll, which is very intriguing for a 6′8 player. (Averaging 3.4 assists on 1.4 turnovers a game)”

Read: http://www.sbnation.com/2012/12/11/3741562/otto-porter-georgetown-basketball-nba-draft

JaeEvolution

December 30th, 2012
9:04 pm

No SF’s are walking through our door that will contribute like this guy whether in a trade or FA. He would become the ultimate system guy and a lockdown defender, I would take him on our team right now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLKl98IkCWg

Astro Joe

December 30th, 2012
9:04 pm

You can’t separate performance when healthy from missing a bunch of games due to a variety of injuries. Idealy, Harris and Morrow would have been valuable as both experienced contributors AND expiring contracts. With about 7 weeks until the trade deadline, their value seems almost exclusively based on their expiring deals. Could the team that trades for them reasonably expect them to play ~35 games after the All-Star break?

Strickland, I think GMs understand that last year was an anomaly because of the strike-shortened season and the virtual elimination of practices during the season. And Ferry was obviously so impressed with Benson that he cut him a few weeks ago. Said differently, I doubt that anyone other than a few bloggers blame LD for cutting loose a late 2nd round draft pick who clearly needed development during a season when development would be hard to find, for vets who already knew the ins and outs of the NBA.

IMO, Ferry walked through the door with his list of head coach9ing candidates. LD has to move up Ferry’s list of ideal head coaches for the jo. And I would guess that he has, in fact, moved up the list so far in the early season. And this is coming from someone who immediately rejected the LD hiring. He is winning and that is the objective. Not rookie development (exclusively)… WINNING!

Astro Joe

December 30th, 2012
9:09 pm

And put me on the side of optimizing the value of Morrow, Harris, Deshawn & Korver over the first 40-45 games OVER “developing” Jenkins with on-court experience. Jenkins can learn during sessions with the amazing Atkinson and NVE while the trade value for those vets increase. This is a transition year, finding ways to acquire assets for July, 2013 is more important than Jenkins getting consistent playing time during the first 45 gamjes of his rookie season.

Ferry is thinking beyond this season… Jenkins is NOT taking this team to the ECF in his rookie season. I don’t care if he plays 35 minutes/game.

MattP

December 30th, 2012
9:21 pm

Blast,

They are not talking about this just this year… Drew has ignored his rookies every season he has coached. Teague is only where is his at now thanks to Hinrich getting injured in the Bulls playoff series, Drew was force to play Teague. If it wasn’t for Hinrich getting injured Teague would still be playing off the bench and probably averaging less than 20 minutes. Remember Crawford, the guy they used has a bag of chips in the Hinrich trade, he is now the leading scorer for the Wizards.

MattP

December 30th, 2012
9:32 pm

Oh almost forgot, You know why Jenkins got in the 1st yesterday? Because of injuries, everyone knows that would not have happened if the Hawks had either Harris or Morrow. So Ferry has to beg for injuries to see his rookies get time?

keith

December 30th, 2012
9:34 pm

Monta Ellis is flat out “Balling” tonight….Bucks are one of the teams that may be on our heels….

keith

December 30th, 2012
9:42 pm

Will Bynum is an “Unrestricted” free agent this summer…..He would be an Outstanding back-up point guard for us going forward….

Ken Strickland

December 30th, 2012
9:45 pm

ASTRO JOE-I think LDrew, not Ferry, made the roster cuts this season. However, Ferry did speak out and make sure Drew didn’t cut either of our draft picks, like he’s done in the past. And since this is Ferry’s 1st yr as our GM, he obviously didn’t cut Benson or anyone else last yr.

However, it was likely Ferry’s decision to sign Benson to the summer league roster and give him an invite to training camp. After that, it was Drew’s decision to cut him.

keith

December 30th, 2012
9:51 pm

Bucks lost tonight so we picked up a .5 game lead on them …They are 4.5 games back now…Would be nice if we could pry Sam Delembert away from the Bucks…..

Duluth Joe

December 30th, 2012
9:58 pm

” Drew has ignored his rookies every season he has coached. ”

What would you do as a coach if you have no job security past the current year. What do you think you would be evaluated based on? Developing rookies or wins and losses? If you manage a project, and have 3 employees and one of them has potential but you have to deliver, would you put your experienced veterans to important tasks, or do you put the green employee with lots of potential to the task and risk unemployment?

Are you going to hold the GM(s) and ownership accountable for player development also? Because they are more guilty than the coach.

First year Larry Drew is here, he is paid one of lowest salaries in league (if not the lowest), and no guaranteed contract for 2nd year. The team won 53 games the year prior with Bibby as point guard. Bibby decline is quicker than most expected. Larry Drew trying to win as many games as possible. He tried to ride the Bibby train, till that train resulted in a team revolt on a trip out west that resulted in the debacle that was the Kirk Hinrich trade. If Larry Drew was on a “MULTI YEAR” contract, he may have given Jeff Teague (a non classic point guard) more chances. As it were he was told to win now. He was on Rick Sund’s plan, not on a coaching development/player development plan (and he was on ASG plan to increase value of franchise with as many wins as possible so ASG could sell to highest bidder). Bibby’s decline was so fast, other contending teams took risk on him (Miami) and gave him a contract. Only to see the decline was real. But again, don’t hold a coach accountable for non-development of Teague if he was not secure past that year (and he had Jamal to play point guard).

This year look at what Ferry has done. He drafted a shooting guard. Then loaded the team with shooting guards (some of the best in NBA). How is Drew supposed to give playing time to a rookie ahead of Korver and Morrow and Lou. Again Drew is on a one year contract.

THE MISTAKE DANNY FERRY MADE, is extend an offer to Larry Drew for only one year. Give the man a multi-year contract if you want player development as a criteria. All the savings from Joe Johnson salary could pay for 3-4 year contract for coach Drew. If Drew didn’t develop rookies, then you know. He is trying to win games we all enjoy and want.

But don’t give a pass to GM Danny Ferry on his coaching move. Otherwise he can give you all the happy talk about player development, but is not putting his money where his mouth is. Yes, Ferry should be commanded for letting Joe Johnson and Marvin trades happen. Perhaps GM of the year candidate for those moves. But his move relative to Drew has been a big fail.

doc

December 30th, 2012
10:02 pm

Duluth Joe

December 30th, 2012
10:05 pm

“I shall also state Danny Ferry did not expect this team to have this kind of success”

EJH, right-on.

I heard him say beginning of season in person, ” I am nervous but excited”.

Think, coach Drew took a mix last year of many new “useless” parts, and had a successful year in a shortened season.

Again, this year, SO FAR, he has taken many new faces, many veterans, and is more successful than most expected.

Credit is due man who is mixing and matching and using parts as needed. I wonder what other “assistant coach” from Spurs can get Josh and Al and Teague and mix them up with all our new veterans and rookies, and Ivan, and keep them all humming?

keith

December 30th, 2012
10:07 pm

COREY BREWER UFA THIS SUMMER……

Corey Brewer would be the perfect SF for this team. I watched him play some “2″ and “3″ in College.

Imagine this line-up:

PG-Teague 6″2″
SG-Korver 6″7″
SF Brewer 6″9″
PF-Horford 6″10″
C–Jefferson 6″10″

6th Man: Lou Williams
BE: Will Bynum-John Jenkins-Ivan Johnson-Zaza Paculia-Anthony Morrow-Mike Scott

keith

December 30th, 2012
10:13 pm

2nd Round pick to Denver for Brewer???

Corey Brewer is a top 10 SF talent in this league. He has not been in the right system for his skill set…This guy is a better shooting “Tashuyn Prince.” I also believe that he is a better defender than Prince was in his prime….

Najeh Davenpoop

December 30th, 2012
10:36 pm

“Most likely he was advised by Hawks PR to spread his criticism more evenly among the players. Do the opinions of fans matter? Did they matter in the firing of Mike Brown? I can assure you they did, especially the opinions of those fans who pa $1000+ per night for their seats.”

I am not a season ticket holder so I have no idea how much interaction they have with owners. But in the Lakers’ case, if their opinion really mattered, Phil Jackson would have been hired instead of Mike D’Antoni. I don’t know of a single Laker fan who wanted D’Antoni over Jackson.

Maybe season ticket holders’ opinions matter in the big picture, when it comes to retaining a coach or letting him go, but I have a hard time seeing it affecting day to day management or statements to the press.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 30th, 2012
10:38 pm

“And what he didn’t do is show a committment to developing and playing rookies and younger players.”

In the past, yeah. This year, though, he is starting to give Jenkins and Scott minutes when veteran options are also available. There may be some merit to the argument that he would be more committed to player development with more job security.

Slimjr

December 30th, 2012
10:38 pm

Yes doc, looks like Vick maybe toast…That light bulb is pretty dim right about now Sir!

Looks like the Knicks are getting hit with a rash of injuries? Does not help they have the oldest squad in the league.. Amare is coming back real soon. They need Anthony back yesterday along with Felton!

” SACRAMENTO, Calif. – The question has hung over Carmelo Anthony nearly since the first day he joined the New York Knicks, and it will likely be debated once again in the coming days.

Can he and Amar’e Stoudemire play well – and win – together?

There’s no denying that Anthony has played his best, as have the Knicks as a whole, while Stoudemire has been sidelined the first two months of this season. But with Stoudemire now expected to return on Tuesday, Anthony is quick to roll his eyes at the thought that New York can’t be a better team with the former All-Star forward back on the floor.

“We need him,” Anthony told Yahoo! Sports after the Knicks’ 106-105 loss to the Sacramento Kings. “I know we are playing well, but the more bodies, the better, especially at this point where guys are doing well. …We are ready for him.”

Stoudemire has yet to play this season after having surgery on his left knee in late October. He’s expected to practice with the Knicks on Sunday and Monday. He completed a series of shooting drills prior to the Kings game, but didn’t have much to say about his pending return.

“I will be back soon,” he said. “I’m not talking right now, but I will be back soon.”

[Related: Kings deny Knicks comeback with wild game-winning three]

The Knicks are riddled with injuries beyond Stoudemire. Anthony has missed two straight games with a hyperextended left knee. Forward Rasheed Wallace has missed eight straight games with a sore left foot. Guard Raymond Felton is out at least four weeks with a fractured right pinkie finger. Guard Iman Shumpert expects to return from knee surgery as late as February.

Amar’e Stoudemire, left, and Carmelo Anthony have won one playoff game together. (AP)Regardless, Knicks coach Mike Woodson said he expects to have enough players for Stoudemire to have a sound practice and scrimmage Sunday and Monday.

“I’m going to put him through a full practice in terms of what we do and in terms of running up and down,” Woodson said. “We will be banging some with him, too, just to see where he is. Hopefully, there won’t be any setbacks and he will be ready to go on New Year’s Day.”

Stoudemire recently worked out with the Knicks’ Development League affiliate in Erie, N.Y. While he was a little rusty in the first practice, he impressed the Knicks’ coaching staff and front office officials in the second workout when he drop-stepped and elevated for a hard dunk over one of the Erie players. Stoudemire is in good condition and ran the floor well during the workouts, but the Knicks still want to see him practice with them prior to clearing him.

“He showed that he still has that bounce he’s known for,” said one source who saw Stoudemire work out.

[Also: Jeff Van Gundy only interested in Nets job if vacant]

Anthony has started at power forward in Stoudemire’s absence and is enjoying possibly his finest season, averaging 28.5 points and 6.2 rebounds. The Knicks also have won 21 games, most in the Eastern Conference. Yet, in their two seasons together, Anthony and Stoudemire haven’t meshed well offensively while playing small forward and power forward, respectively.

Stoudemire is expected to initially come off the bench when he returns and be given limited minutes. Anthony also is hopeful he’ll be back on Tuesday. If Stoudemire eventually returns to the starting lineup, veteran forward-center Kurt Thomas would likely go to the bench.

“I’ll gauge it when he gets in a game and see how he’s playing,” Woodson said of how much Stoudemire will play. “He’s not going to come back and play 30 minutes a game. That’s impossible.”

Knicks center Marcus Camby finds the concerns regarding Anthony and Stoudemire laughable.

Stoudemire “is hungrier than anything because he keeps hearing that he and ‘Melo can’t coexist on the basketball court,” Camby said. “You have to give a guy like Amar’e a lot of credit because during that free agent period [in 2010] he was the only one that wanted to take a lot of responsibility and play under a microscope. Just how he handled things once ‘Melo decided to come here … there has been no ego from what I have has seen. He wants to prove a lot of people wrong on the aspect that they can’t coexist.” YahooSports-

Yes prove us all wrong Amare..

Slimjr

December 30th, 2012
10:45 pm

doc, the RG3 is going to win this game tonight! Skins just scored, up 21-10 with 10:32 left in the 4th!

RG3 will go places MV7 could not..The torch has been handed over and shinning brightly…

Dallas will be sent home..

Slimjr

December 30th, 2012
10:47 pm

The Skins with 173 on the ground!

Romo is getting blitzed like crazy!

doc

December 30th, 2012
10:49 pm

slimj, sad to say it, his light bulb was not bright to begin with, first hand info. unbelievable talent though. i still marvel in his run early in his career against minny.

i have a lot of respect for amar’e and how he has handled himself in new york. i hope he is aboe to getr back on the court and make a diffference.

meanwhile galinari is coming on. will they be able to say melo who?

would also like to see boys 88 follow up what he has done this year with a calm off season and repeat what he has done this year.

Slimjr

December 30th, 2012
10:50 pm

DeAngelo Hall is ballin tonight.Playing lock down corner

doc

December 30th, 2012
10:51 pm

slimj remember on draft day i said rg3 is the real deal and what we all hoped mv7 would and could be. i just dont think he even burned as hot inside as rg3 does.

dont forget russell wilson either!

Slimjr

December 30th, 2012
10:54 pm

The Skins are bringing the Kitchen sink against Romo tonight..So far its working..He’s been vewry quiet out there on the field..

Interesting point you made about Vic’s light bulb status from the word go…

I have the MONDAY NIGHT GAME FROM 2010 when MV7 put up 28 in the 1st qtr on the Skins!

I will cherish it! lol!

Deez Bryant back is acting up..He maybe done for the night along with Romo!

Slimjr

December 30th, 2012
10:55 pm

Bryant is being carried back to the locker room? Its a wrap..

Slimjr

December 30th, 2012
11:03 pm

I pulled a Nique before the Fat Lady sung!

Romo just put 8 on the bd to cut the Skins lead to 3..Going to be a wild finish!

doc

December 30th, 2012
11:04 pm

not yet slimj, ya boy romo is standing in there add threading the needle.

doc

December 30th, 2012
11:07 pm

remember how it took mv7 over 13 games to get back to himself after an ankle fracture that usually takes 6 weeks max to heal? then he refused to play at less than 100% because he “wasnt himself”? that is not in the rg3 playbook as he limps and plays on one leg.

doc

December 30th, 2012
11:08 pm

vicious game.

Slimjr

December 30th, 2012
11:11 pm

Romo just threw the game away! A pick on his side of the fence…

Tony does that too many times in the BIG GAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dallas Fans are going to eat him up…

doc

December 30th, 2012
11:11 pm

tony romo just resurfaced.

doc

December 30th, 2012
11:11 pm

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

December 30th, 2012
11:12 pm

Duluth,

Rick Stunk picked up LD’s option before Ferry got here.

Develop Jenkins. He can play. Mike Scott is straight garbage and should not be getting minutes period