Game thread: Drew, Smith talk after ‘poor shot selection’ late vs. Pistons (updated)
UPDATES: Ivan Johnson is definitely out tonight. He remained at the team hotel. … Hawks will start Jeff Teague, Lou Williams, Kyle Korver, Josh Smith and Al Horford. “In the last couple of games we’ve played in going with this lineup it’s been good for us,” coach Larry Drew said. “I think with both Teague and Williams in the lineup it gives us speed, it gives us the ability to play a little faster. … I think it’s important on the road to dictate the tempo of the game and when it’s time to run we have to get out and fly.” … Drew said there is a “probability” he will save DeShawn Stevenson for tomorrow night’s game against the Pacers.
Vivlamore reporting.
Hawks coach Larry Drew acknowledged Josh Smith’s late-game shooting issues against the Pistons Wednesday as “poor shot selection” and said the two have spoken and are ready to move on.
Despite finishing with 31 points, Smith combined to score only one point in the fourth quarter and both overtimes. He was 13-of-18 shooting through three quarters but 0-of-7 in the final 22 minutes.
“It was just poor shot selection,” Drew said. “He knows it. We’ve already talked about it. That was a game where I thought he probably settled a little too much on the perimeter. He acknowledged it. We look at tape and we talk about it and we just move on.”
* Tonight the Hawks’ main focus will be on stopping the Cavaliers’ dribble penetration. The Cavs scored 46 points in the paint in their victory over the Hawks on Nov. 30 at Philips Arena. Now, they have point guard Kyrie Irving back.
“After looking at our last game, that is what really killed us,” Drew said.
Drew said the Hawks have added a few wrinkles for this game against the Cavs based on the last game. However, the focus will be on better execution both offensively and defensively.
“From an execution standpoint we have enough stuff where I think we can keep them off balance offensively,” Drew said. “It’s just a matter of us getting out there and executing the play and making sure we explore the option off the play, especially on the road. This is where it’s most important because we want to try to control the tempo on the road.”
The Hawks had trouble defending dribble penetration late in Wednesday’s game against the Pistons. Will Bynum scored 26 of his 31 points in the fourth quarter and two overtime periods. When Bynum and the Pistons weren’t scoring on layups, they were dishing to Andre Drummond for dunks.
“It is something we saw the last game when Bynum was penetrating, a big man was helping and then Drummond had the wide-open dunks,” Zaza Pachulia said of the Hawks defensive breakdowns. “Other guys have to help the big guy. It’s like a chain. Everybody needs to help each other and be on the same page. That is the key. If you do that we’ll make it easier on ourselves.
“I’ve seen this team doing it the right way and helping each other so I know we are capable of doing it. We just didn’t execute it the right way.”
* The Hawks will get a break in the rebounding battle as the Cavs will be without Anderson Varejao. The center has missed four games with a bruised right knee and he will miss the next two more, including tonight against the Hawks.
Varejao had 18 boards as the Cavs out-rebounded the Hawks 49-28 in their last meeting.
Varejao is the NBA’s leading rebounder at 14.4 boards per game.
Drew warned it’s not only Varejao the Hawks must be concerned about stopping.
“They have guys who really go and attack the glass,” Drew said. “We’ll have to be good in our box outs, not only our big guys but our perimeters as well. They are going to have to get in there and chase some loose balls down. Their size is certainly something we are going to have to deal with tonight but, again, we might try to combat that with our speed and quickness.”
- Chris Vivlamore
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Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
4:27 pm
1st?
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
4:27 pm
2nd?
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
4:28 pm
3rd?
MsDee
December 28th, 2012
4:30 pm
1ST?
MsDee
December 28th, 2012
4:30 pm
Or maybe NOT
MsDee
December 28th, 2012
4:30 pm
Yep Slimjr, I surely said that about my boy Horford..he was making a point!!
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
4:34 pm
Hey Larry did you have a talk with your Allstar about his suspect free-throw shooting.
Hey Larry did you have a talk with your Allstar about his take on defending the paint..Does he feel more comfortable defending outside the paint? Does he not trust his team-mates so he will not leave his man to contest?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
4:38 pm
Our ALLSTAR Center must be thrilled that Varejao [the NBA's leading rebounder] is out resting his knee?
WHEW………………………….
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
4:41 pm
Cousins is something special [his game]..
His offensive skills are more advanced than any Big the Hawks feature for sure..
Once he matures, look out..
Grandmaster JeJe
December 28th, 2012
4:43 pm
I predict LD uses small starting lineup, we get killed on the glass, and probably lose
Duluth Joe
December 28th, 2012
4:48 pm
That is a really good break with Varejao out. After catching a bad break vs. Sixers when both Holliday and Turner were healthy in time for us after missing a few, we catch a break now. Have to take advantage and pay back the Cavs.
Rod from College Park
December 28th, 2012
4:51 pm
For those that say LD never criticizes Josh or ever pulls him out of the game this is another example. I challenge you to find an article, a blog post, or any interview of LD ever calling All Star Al out.
“It is something we saw the last game when Bynum was penetrating, a big man was helping and then Drummond had the wide-open dunks,” Zaza Pachulia said of the Hawks defensive breakdowns. “Other guys have to help the big guy. It’s like a chain. Everybody needs to help each other and be on the same page. That is the key. If you do that we’ll make it easier on ourselves.”
At least Zaza understands the help the helper concept. Horford on the other hand, ……….. Layup line.
drmaryb .(""_ ^).
December 28th, 2012
4:54 pm
STUFF ROLLS DOWNHILL!
__________________________
Sounds like Mr Ferry got in Mr Drew’s backside after that lame presser the coach have after the Pistons debacle. Hmmmmmm ….
First, Mr Drew calls out Jeff & now, it’s Josh turn to fall on the sword today. These boys better straighten up and, fly right. Mr Ferry is not playing around with the mediocrity of the past. There is just too much talent and, money put into this once young roster, to not have improved on fundamental basketball plays up to this point.
The deadline is near.
terrell
December 28th, 2012
5:05 pm
Has Uncle Larry called his own self out yet?
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
5:07 pm
Larry remind your guys to help the helper on that front line..
AllStar Al its time to start playing volley ball with those little point guards.
Take off those freaking restricting knee pads and rise up on the balls of your feet.. Playing flat-footed will not allow you to be in position to make an impact on the defensive end consistently…
terrell
December 28th, 2012
5:08 pm
Why change the starting 5?
Stick with Teague/Lou/Korver/Josh/Al, and leave it at that. What is he trying to gain? Sick of this musical chair nonsense.
terrell
December 28th, 2012
5:10 pm
Al’s not playing flat footed. He is flat footed. lol. Not hatin on him. Just sayin. It is what it is.
Swingman912
December 28th, 2012
5:11 pm
Rod,
I stand corrected. He called Josh out, but youre right about Al. He played poor D, missed game clinching free throws, and there’s nothing about him.
Rod from College Park
December 28th, 2012
5:11 pm
C-Viv,
I will be waiting on the next blog post when you post the one concerning Coach Drew talking to his All Star Center about letting point guards waltz down te lane all game an continuosly converting buckets while he stands their flat footed looking in to thin air. I know that is the article you are writing right now. Can’t wait. LOL. I won’t be holding my breath. Also write the article about where LD sat Al down and spoke to him about missing game determining free throws.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
5:11 pm
Sounds like Zaza was explaining how the Hawks center can’t simultaneously defend the PG who gets dribble penetration AND the opposing center who rolls to the basket. If the Hawks PG is beat by the opposing PG, he is supposed to do more than stand there and watch… like try and box out the opposing center who is rolling to the basket.
“Other guys have to help the big guy. It’s like a chain. Everybody needs to help each other and be on the same page.
vava74
December 28th, 2012
5:15 pm
FTPB,
Rob “not even Buster Douglas” FCP,
So the fact than immensely talented offensive player averages 18/20ppg shooting ,400 from the floor for lottery teams is not under achieving because he got 10 million per year contracts???
Then I guess Marvin’s production was also validated by his 7.5 million per contract?!
By valuing ppg and $$$ over WINNING as you did already so many times you have indeed showed that although you do know something about basketball, you also “DON’T GET IT”.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
5:15 pm
Yeah, Zaza already said it. Al was likely waiting for a teammate to do what they practice. Funny thing is that folk were expecting Al to simultaenously defend the PG AND the rolling big man. Only guy who did that on a regular bases was Ben Wallace.
Kind of like a CB who expects the safety to provide coverage after so many yards down the field. Fans think the CB was burned when the reality is that the safety didn’t do his job.
Rod from College Park
December 28th, 2012
5:16 pm
This may be a sign guys. Maybe our head coach is learning and is starting to hold all of his guys accountable. I know the article concerning All Star Al is coming. No way he would call out Teague, and Josh in the media, and leave Al out…………………..
terrell
December 28th, 2012
5:17 pm
Isnt Ivan doubtful for every game? That last blog made me laugh CV.
vava74
December 28th, 2012
5:19 pm
Rod,
Another thing Rod, I went and checked a couple of plays and Al was on both the “helper” so who was the guy missing on helping the helper on those plays when Drummond converted the dish?
My guess is that was Josh.
Not excusing Horford, who I do think has gone softer, but there’s no need to blindly join the bandwagon.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
5:19 pm
From two blogs ago:
“Most head coaches are more likely to forgive physical mistakes rather than mental ones. ”
Why is this a good thing? If a player isn’t producing and someone else can play better, he shouldn’t be on the court. Doesn’t matter whether it’s because his mistakes are mental or physical.
And anyway, not every “physical mistake” is out of a player’s control. Maybe LD can’t ask Al to grow 2 inches but he certainly could have benched Bibby for going overboard with the Krispy Kremes.
Rod from College Park
December 28th, 2012
5:21 pm
“Yeah, Zaza already said it. Al was likely waiting for a teammate to do what they practice. Funny thing is that folk were expecting Al to simultaenously defend the PG AND the rolling big man. Only guy who did that on a regular bases was Ben Wallace.”
The difference is Zaza does what he is actually supposed to do defensively which is to stop penetration. Zaza regularly draws charges and commits hard fouls. Horford on the other hand………. So based on your logic, Zaza is continuously making the wrong defensive play huh.
Rod from College Park
December 28th, 2012
5:23 pm
Excuse my grammer. It’s horrible today. One of those days.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
5:27 pm
Najeh, that’s easy. A head coach ONLY has playing time to use to influence performance. He can’t fine a player for not wearing his big boy pants to a game. The one way to correct mental errors (and even emotional outbursts like Cousins), is through playing time/suspensions. If you don’t correct the behavior of a young player, you may never see him become a disciplined player capapble of reaching his potential. Not that we have an example of that on our team.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
5:30 pm
Rod, actually, I think it is quite feasible that LD has told Zaza it is fine for him to get in foul trouble while the same does not hold true for Horfrod. I think it is very plausible that LD (and other head coaches) have a designated “goon-type player” who can use all 6 fouls while not wanting another player to do the same. I think it is quite possible that the expectations for how Zaza defends (foul hard) is different than how Horford should defend (move your feet).
Rod from College Park
December 28th, 2012
5:31 pm
Vava,
“Another thing Rod, I went and checked a couple of plays and Al was on both the “helper” so who was the guy missing on helping the helper on those plays when Drummond converted the dish?”
This goes so much farther than the Detroit game. I can remember off hand 5 to 6 times during the Detroit game that Horford never even attempted to stop penetration. I think Najeh even mentioned it during the game. Stopping penetration is always #1 priority defensively unless you hvae an elite shot blocker in the paint, and since our elite shot blocker is now on the perimeter, there is no way that it is not his reponsibilty. Much harder for a guard to convert an alley oop, than a layup.
Concerning the bs you posted concerning Marvin, I never had a problem with the 7.5 mil Marvin was making, I had a problem with the length of the contract, and the fact that we did not let him test the market, and match if we wanted to.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
December 28th, 2012
5:33 pm
When our guards drive to the basket bigs from the other team are there to meet them. When guards from opposing teams drive to the basket our bigs stand and watch.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
5:34 pm
“Sounds like Zaza was explaining how the Hawks center can’t simultaneously defend the PG who gets dribble penetration AND the opposing center who rolls to the basket. If the Hawks PG is beat by the opposing PG, he is supposed to do more than stand there and watch… like try and box out the opposing center who is rolling to the basket.
“Other guys have to help the big guy. It’s like a chain. Everybody needs to help each other and be on the same page.”
Right, but one of those links in the chain is Al stepping up and helping the guy with the ball. I would have been much less critical of Al last night if he was, in fact, challenging every Bynum drive and Bynum was finding Drummond. The responsibility to prevent Drummond from getting a dunk, then, would fall to the next link in the chain, who presumably would have been helping off of someone like Austin Daye.
So in other words, if the system had worked properly, the Hawks would have been leaving some perimeter shooter open and Bynum would have had to pass to that shooter once Al came up to contest his drives to the basket. The Pistons proved for three quarters that they were incapable of finding open teammates on the weak side, and chances are that strategy would have continued to work with Bynum at PG.
The most basic concept in transition defense is to stop the ball and make the ball handler pass to a teammate. If Bynum and Drummond were running a fast break and Al was the last line of defense, the right play would be for him to stop Bynum and make him pass it. I don’t see why that same concept wouldn’t apply in this situation.
And the biggest problem was that while Al stayed back on Drummond instead of helping on Bynum, it’s not like he was keeping Drummond from scoring and getting boards either. He has the responsibility to stop one or the other and he stopped neither one.
Al is generally a good defender, better in one on one situations than in help situations, but last night was not his finest hour defensively.
Rod from College Park
December 28th, 2012
5:36 pm
Astro Joe,
That’s nonsense. You don’t draw a foul for a charge. You move your feet and get in position or you contest the shot. No way LD teaches anything different. Even if he did, Horford’s basketball IQ is so high from what i’ve been told by numerous bloggers here that eventually after he continues to see point guard 6′2 and under make layups right next to him, he should be smart enough to realize that he needs to try to prevent the easiest shot in basketball.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
5:39 pm
The Pistons clearly found a weakness in the Hawks defensive system, that is cvlear. A back-up PG scored 31 and a rookie center was having his way. Excuse me if I am not of the opinion that both players feasted exclusively on Horford. If a player says that there is a “chain” and suggests that players need to help the big guy, then I am left to believe that the breakdown was coming from players who did NOT help the big guy. I’m not sure how to reach any other conclusion based on Zaza’s comments.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
5:41 pm
Of course none of that is to say that Al was solely at fault. Bynum started heating up against the Hawks’ bench, and kept it up after Teague came back in, and nobody checking him had the presence of mind to force him away from the middle where he was doing the most damage. If he had been forced to drive away from the middle it would have been much harder for him to involve Drummond in the play.
Rod from College Park
December 28th, 2012
5:41 pm
Vava,
I know that Floyd Mayweather post really got to you. Your like that old boxer suffering from too many concussions still trying to get in the ring. LEt it go. Give it up. Enjoy the rest of your life.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
5:45 pm
Meanwhile, Hoopsworld has some nice things to say about the Hawks. Somehow they seem to have more Hawks-related content than every other NBA site put together.
Rod from College Park
December 28th, 2012
5:45 pm
“When our guards drive to the basket bigs from the other team are there to meet them.”
Interesting Clyde. I guess LD is running some defensive system that nobody else uses. I wonder why when Josh or Ivan or Zaza is down on the block they always contest or try to step up to draw the charge. I guess Horford plays by his own rules huh. No way possible he is not doing what he is supposed to do.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
5:46 pm
You don’t draw a foul for a charge. You move your feet and get in position or you contest the shot.
Rod, nonsense? So every attempt at drawing a charge is always successful? No one is ever called for a blocking foul while attempting to draw a charge?
And considering the 2 foul treatment that AL has dealt with previously, why is it not possible that the rules are different for Al vs. a back-up center with limited 2-way capabilities? I’d bet anything that Josh has different “privileges” than Josh. Ivan could commit 2 fouls in 4 minutes and keep playing, while the same is NOT true for Josh.
W.R. Terrell
December 28th, 2012
5:46 pm
The “Smoove” has been talked to before about poor shot selection. I give it mebbee 3 games and then he will get stoopid again. He cannot learn to play where his strengths lies. Danny is not playing and LD cannot get the “Smoove” under control. Woody tried and tried hard, LD has tried the buddy, buddy route and the same scenario presents itself. The “Smoove” has tremendous talent but no B Ball IQ and that’s the way it is. The best way to handle him is to bench him when stoopid takes over, that in itself will negate the rest of the team from losing focus. This is nothing new, it’s been going on for years and that is the main reason he will never go to the HOF or be taken seriously as a SUPERSTAR, the “Smoove”, is his own worst enemy.
Swingman912
December 28th, 2012
5:49 pm
Centers are supposed to be rim protecters. Bynum got hot and was able to penetrate, but no one was there to contest, or either they came lat, so Bynum was able to score at ease or dish to the roll man. Your wing player has to be a poart of the rotation as well. If Al commits to Bynum, the wing comes and tries to deny the roller, or foul(no harm in fouling Drummond. you would think he played for the Hawks how bad his FT shooting is). After that the closest man is responsible for getting out on the wing shooter. Simple basketball. Wasnt just Al, but it was part his fault. Wasnt just Teague, but partly his fault as well. It just wasnt good TEAM defense. Bad team defense+ bad shot selection= squandering a 19 pt lead in the 4th Quarter
Rod from College Park
December 28th, 2012
5:50 pm
“If a player says that there is a “chain” and suggests that players need to help the big guy, then I am left to believe that the breakdown was coming from players who did NOT help the big guy. I’m not sure how to reach any other conclusion based on Zaza’s comments.”
Obviously you have never played the game or if you did you have no concept of defensive principles. What Zaza said was correct the difference is Zaza was doing what he was supposed to do, which is to stop penetration, which allowed the ally oops, Horford was not doing what he was supposed to do with allowed layups by point guards all night long.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
5:53 pm
Rod, Zaza was calling out the guys who are supposed to help the big guy. Read the quote. Help the big guy. The scheme requires that the big guy gets help. That’s what Zaza who is playing in the scheme just said. Stop being hard-headed. A center on the Hawks who has been there for quite some time said that the defensive scheme requires that the big man get help. That’s the quote.
Rod from College Park
December 28th, 2012
5:54 pm
“Wasnt just Al, but it was part his fault. Wasnt just Teague, but partly his fault as well. It just wasnt good TEAM defense.”
Agreed Swingman912. So Teague has been called out in the media by LD, and so has Josh. Now we are just waiting on the article about Al……
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
5:55 pm
“Other guys have to help the big guy”.
Rod from College Park
December 28th, 2012
5:57 pm
Astro Joe,
Again, I know exactly what Zaza was saying. He was saying that when he went to HELP, nobody HELPED him. So why would Horford not be expected to HELP, so somebody can HELP him?
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
5:57 pm
A quote from a center who is currently in the Hawks system and listens to his coaches teach the team defensive concept, “Other guys have to help the big guy”.
I wonder if Zaza would have an inkling as to what the center is supposed to expect in the chain of defense? Probably not, he isn’t originally from Atlanta.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
6:01 pm
The way I interpret that Zaza quote in context of what happened on Wednesday night is that Al may have seen that his teammates weren’t rotating onto Drummond and then decided to stay back on Drummond instead of helping on Bynum. Even if that’s the case I still think it’s Al’s job to contest the guy with the ball and make him pass rather than giving him an open layup. Like I said in the previous post, I’d be a lot less critical of Al if he was contesting Bynum’s shot and his teammates weren’t rotating over in time to pick up Drummond.
And anyway, would it really surprise anyone here if a Zaza quote didn’t exactly convey 100% of what he was trying to say?
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
6:04 pm
Rod, sometimes Horford stayed with Drummond and other times he tried to contest Bynum. Keep in mind that Bynum is very undersized and has perfected the high tear drop shot…. it is why he has an NBA career. I watched Horford unsuccessfully try to block Bynum’s shots. Much like I saw Josh unsuccessfully block the lay-up that Bynum missed towards the end of one of the OTs.
It was like playing “monkey in the middle”. They read what Horford was doing and exploited it. If Horford stayed with Drummond, Bynum drove. If he went to help on ynum, Drummond went to the front of the rim for the pass. Meanwhile, his teammates watched. Zaza was saying that a 2 on 1 sutuation in the halfcourt set is an issue not for just the big guy (who is stuck in the middle) but for the one who doesn’t rotate to help.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
6:08 pm
The way I interpret that Zaza quote in context of what happened on Wednesday night is that Al may have seen that his teammates weren’t rotating onto Drummond and then decided to stay back on Drummond instead of helping on Bynum. Even if that’s the case I still think it’s Al’s job to contest the guy with the ball and make him pass rather than giving him an open layup.
I agree. But I also generally like to see a CB stay with a receiver all the way down the field and not release him to the safety. Bottom line, a player is supposed to execute the strategy defined by the head coach. If we don’t see a quote from LD knocking Al’s defensive decisions, it is likely because Al executed the strategy while his teammates did not. In this case, blame the safety and not the CB.
vava74
December 28th, 2012
6:14 pm
Rod
You’re right, the stupidity and delusion of the Mayweather analogy really struck me
You’re the most disingenuous blogger around. It’s pitiful how to contradict yourself on the same page depend to whom you are addressing and then try to make up for it with yet another load of bull.
What Zaza said directly excused part of the buckets that happened on situations in which Horford was defending.
If the helper is not helped he will not react as timely to dribble penetration ax we would if he KNEW ghat when he helps he is also being help.
That happens in spite of defensive principles call for stopping the dibble penetration.
Zaza said: defense is teamwork and ROTATIONS are essential.
I not excusing Horford, only framing the criticism within fair boundaries.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
December 28th, 2012
6:15 pm
It was a dirty play but when Faried drove to the basket Dwight Howard put him on his back. When was the last time a big from the Hawks put someone on they back for driving to the basket?
I remember when Solomon Jones put Dwayne Wade on his back during the playoffs a couple of years back. He sent a message to the Heat that night.
SteveW
December 28th, 2012
6:15 pm
Didn’t Teague have like 5 fouls, and with Devin Harris out, we’re literally playing w/o a backup PG? If Teague would have fouled out your down to Lou and that’s it.
Glad Teague rescued us in that last OT. What a display!
vava74
December 28th, 2012
6:16 pm
Damn iPhone typos
vava74
December 28th, 2012
6:19 pm
Teague went into overtime with 4 fouls.
Committed the 5th in the first OT.
Rod from College Park
December 28th, 2012
6:24 pm
“You’re the most disingenuous blogger around. It’s pitiful how to contradict yourself on the same page depend to whom you are addressing and then try to make up for it with yet another load of bull.”
Thanks. That means a lot coming from you, the guy who still continously bashes Jamal Crawford after he has been proven wrong time and time again.
“If the helper is not helped he will not react as timely to dribble penetration ax we would if he KNEW ghat when he helps he is also being help.”
This statement here lets me know you have no concept of help defense. You don’t have a choice. You always stop dribble penetration, unless you have a shot blocker in the paint, like Dikembe, or Josh Smith. Al’s Job is not to decide and worry about his man scoring. If you are playing a help defense concept then your job is to help and depend on your team mate to help you. I’m interested to know where I contridicted myself.
Buddy Grizzard
December 28th, 2012
6:26 pm
“Play Petro. He’s making too much money to sit on the bench.”
Still laughing…
I believe the Hawks are paying Petro to stay as far away from a basketball court as possible, and getting good value for their dollars.
Buddy Grizzard
December 28th, 2012
6:27 pm
Also hilarious… Drew reacting to fan reaction to his criticism of Teague.
Swingman912
December 28th, 2012
6:28 pm
vava74,
Doesnt matter what he knew. His job is to stop penetration. its the wings job to defend Drummond rolling to the basket. if he wouldve contest EVERY Bynum shot and Bynum kicked to Drummond every time thn Al did his job, that wasnt the case tho. which is why Rod feels he should be called out.
welikebaseball2
December 28th, 2012
6:31 pm
I know it makes some of you guys feel like you have the answers when you blame our inability to stop penetrating guards solely on Josh or Al. Here’s a thought though…what if, just what if, the guards actually stayed in front of their men…instead of playing matador defense?
Swingman912
December 28th, 2012
6:33 pm
@welikebaseball2,
Very true statement. Teague gambles on the steal and plays defense with his hands toooooo much. Watch the waist and move your feet. He’s quick enough…
Rod from College Park
December 28th, 2012
6:36 pm
Swingman912,
Dude is punch drunk. I have knocked him out so many times on this blog he continues to try to jump at anything to get his name back. Then he continuously makes comments like he is some great baskeball mind, and admits in the same paragraph that he did not watch the game. Dude is really suffering from concussions. I will leave him alone from now on.
Rod from College Park
December 28th, 2012
6:37 pm
“Also hilarious… Drew reacting to fan reaction to his criticism of Teague.”
What is he saying?
Swingman912
December 28th, 2012
6:38 pm
lol @ Rod
Billy Baddass
December 28th, 2012
6:39 pm
Did anyone speak to Al horford about his piss poor defence, lack of courage and selfishness?
Buddy Grizzard
December 28th, 2012
6:45 pm
“the two have spoken and are ready to move on.”
How bout we see some actual improved shot selection and THEN we can move on?
“letting point guards waltz down te lane all game”
No mention here of the point guard who continuously gets beat off the dribble.
Buddy Grizzard
December 28th, 2012
6:47 pm
He’s saying that Josh needs to improve his shot selection, which he wouldn’t have copped to if not for the uproar over his criticism of Teague after a game in which Teague saved the day while Josh went 0-for-7 over the final three periods.
Rod from College Park
December 28th, 2012
6:54 pm
“No mention here of the point guard who continuously gets beat off the dribble.”
No need to. To be honest with you, I never see any of the top point guards have people stay in fromt of them. Watched Chris Paul get by Rondo all night long last night. No one guy will ever stop the top point guards (Paul, Rondo, Rose, T. Parker, DWill…) from getting in the lane. It goes back to the help defense coversation. You can either play help defense and the bigs have to contest, or you can try to trap the PG, to get the ball out of his hands. Although Will Bynum is a backup, I have never seen any guard stay in front of him since college. Remember the OK state game, and that was on Tony Allen.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
7:05 pm
“He’s saying that Josh needs to improve his shot selection, which he wouldn’t have copped to if not for the uproar over his criticism of Teague after a game in which Teague saved the day while Josh went 0-for-7 over the final three periods.”
I think you are way overrating the extent to which LD cares about what the fans think, and even the extent to which Hawks fans are capable of “uproaring”. This isn’t Philly.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
7:20 pm
“No mention here of the point guard who continuously gets beat off the dribble.”
Teague wasn’t blameless in that game but Bynum and company had already heated up and shaved 7 points off the Hawks’ lead in the 4th quarter by the time Teague came in to check him. And like Rod points out, perimeter defense is a lot more dependent on interior defense than the other way around.
keith
December 28th, 2012
7:28 pm
Ditto!!!!!!!!
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
4:41 pm
Cousins is something special [his game]..
His offensive skills are more advanced than any Big the Hawks feature for sure..
Once he matures, look out..
keith
December 28th, 2012
7:32 pm
HOPE THAT DANNY ALLOWS JOSH SMITH TO WALK
We have to make some changes with our “Bigs” going forward!!! Addition by subtraction is LIKELY the way to go.
nostradamus
December 28th, 2012
7:38 pm
Predictions for tonight.
1. keith will come up with some dumb trade
2. keith will talk about how Teague and Al are scrubs
3. keith will talk about how such and such should be fired
4. Josh will take at lest two bad shots
5. there will be at least two instances where Al wont attempt to block a lay up
6. J.J.M. will criticize Teague if he plays poorly but will disappear if he has a good game
7. the Hawks will have a lead but LD will put Lou in as point and the lead will quickly disappear
High-sider
December 28th, 2012
7:40 pm
No Varejao; good deal (for the Hawks).
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
7:41 pm
I wish I could find the video of Lionel Hollins talking about his team the other day. He talked about how during several key possessions, 2-3 players were in the wrong spot on the floor based on the play they were running. It was proof-positive that fans have a very limited idea of the actual play that the team is supposed to be running. Hollins was mad that the team wasn’t on ‘the same page”. I suspect that the vast majority of fans could not sit there and ask themselves, “why is Tony Allen standing in the right corner when he is supposed to be at the right elbow?” And one must assume that executing a play as designed may also influence playing time. It isn’t solely about individual stats, especially if your dumb butt is in the wrong place and that results in a bad possession for the team.
The NBA game is much different than pick-up ball. It isn’t 5 guys ad-libbing until someone scors 21 points.
keith
December 28th, 2012
7:42 pm
The center match-up is the key to this game…Josh Smith already looking Dumb!!!
High-sider
December 28th, 2012
7:46 pm
Hawks fans, you might as well accept it; it appears Josh will continue to shoot jumpers as long as he’s a Hawks player.
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
7:47 pm
Allstar AL has to become an enforcer again!
Does he ever take a charge? When was the last time we’ve seen him in foul trouble trying to defend the paint at the 5 position? hmmmmmmmmm
Hey bloggers, I’ll take you down to the local GYM and show you guards that would blow by you in your prime…lol!
NOTE: Because there is no more hand checking allowed in the NBA to enhance scoring and fill the seats, it is almost impossible to keep an average [NBA PT. Guard] in front of you unless he wants to be..
Roger that Houston..
keith
December 28th, 2012
7:49 pm
24 second violation should never happen coming out of a time-out!!!
keith
December 28th, 2012
7:52 pm
Josh Smith is a HORRIBLE shooter…Just plain Horrible!!!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
7:52 pm
Cavs seem to have come into the game with a focus on denying Korver any open looks. At least a couple of Hawks possessions have been thwarted by the Cavs denying Korver.
Blast
December 28th, 2012
7:52 pm
Josh bombing and clanging away again. Thought Drew had a talk with him about his shot selection?
terrell
December 28th, 2012
7:52 pm
Why the hell they keep throwing Josh the ball on the perimeter?
nostradamus
December 28th, 2012
7:53 pm
Nice to see that talk with Josh helped. And yes im being very sarcastic
Admiral SnAckbar
December 28th, 2012
7:53 pm
trade osh for anybody.
JaeEvolution
December 28th, 2012
7:53 pm
Al is back on D, doesn’t even contest Dion Waiters dunk, no foul, nothing.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
7:53 pm
After starting the game with a couple of nice assists Josh forcing it too much on the offensive end has let the Cavs catch up.
I’d like to see more of that Teague-Al pick and pop that worked earlier in the quarter.
keith
December 28th, 2012
7:54 pm
Energy looks bad tonight…Body language looks poor by 4 out of 5 players. Kyle Korver looks like the only Hawk who came to play….
J.J.M.
December 28th, 2012
7:54 pm
des al ever give a hard foul or attempt a block shot…weak
keith
December 28th, 2012
7:55 pm
Can we send Josh Smith down to the D-League?????
Blast
December 28th, 2012
7:56 pm
At least Josh is assisting.
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
7:56 pm
Josh with 4 to’s
terrell
December 28th, 2012
7:56 pm
Josh slow the fu.. down. Stop playing pg. omg!!
2 FOR JOHN DREW
December 28th, 2012
7:56 pm
WOW … LD says ” We ( Josh & I ) talked about it, and we’ve moved on ….. ??? ….. You’ve got to be kinding me ….. Josh first 3 shots were long jumpers
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
7:57 pm
I can excuse Al not contesting that fast break dunk because he already had 1 foul.
2 FOR JOHN DREW
December 28th, 2012
7:57 pm
** KIDDING ME **
keith
December 28th, 2012
7:58 pm
Neither SOFT AL or Josh should ever shoot outside of the paint…..
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
7:58 pm
Layup line
High-sider
December 28th, 2012
7:58 pm
It seems like for every “good play” Josh makes, he follows that “good play” (up) with a “bad play.” [smh]
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
7:59 pm
Irving is going for 30
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
7:59 pm
Scary the number of possessions the Hawks run when the guards never touch the ball.
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
7:59 pm
AL watching another layup dunk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
keith
December 28th, 2012
7:59 pm
A guy with a female name slam dunks on you????
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
8:00 pm
Great transition D on that play by Al — helped on the drive, recovered to the big man, contested the shot and got the rebound.
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
8:00 pm
Al got a block on a dribble penetrating guard? Well what do ya know? Nice
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
8:01 pm
Luke Walton looks like he has been working out with Mike Bibby.
keith
December 28th, 2012
8:01 pm
Al is truly a SF personality in a Centers’ Body…….
J.J.M.
December 28th, 2012
8:02 pm
smh why give up your open shot to josh so he can shoot a jumper
terrell
December 28th, 2012
8:02 pm
Larry had a talk with Josh? lmao!
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
8:02 pm
Cleveland can get inside and man handle these Hawks! SOFT~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cp
December 28th, 2012
8:03 pm
Teague is out there eating tonight. And I have never seen a team so reluctant to give the ball to the pg on the break.
keith
December 28th, 2012
8:03 pm
Poor defense by the Hawks overall. No protection at the rim….Our Bigs look weak tonight, unfocused..
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
8:03 pm
Did I just see a Cleveland guard penetrate into the paint for an uncontested dunk?? SOFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
High-sider
December 28th, 2012
8:04 pm
Teague has 9pts and 2asts after the first quarter. He’s on pace for 36 and 8. LD is that enough “energy” for ya. [sarcasm]
Honesty
December 28th, 2012
8:05 pm
AJ,
While I would be shocked at an ordinary backup scoring 31 points, I happen to hold will Bynum in a slightly higher regard…..dating back to his Georgia tech days. Dude should have been drafted by the Hawks in ‘05 and is a flat out baller. Honestly he’s been the best PG Detroit has had since Billups was traded away.
cp
December 28th, 2012
8:05 pm
Maybe LD didnt talk loud enough for Josh to hear him. The jumpers are bad enough but dude is killing fast break opportunities too.
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
8:05 pm
Josh is saying to his teammates [FU]. Layup City
W.R. Terrell
December 28th, 2012
8:05 pm
I did not think the LD convo with the “Smoove” would make a diff but one can hope. There is still time for common sense and I hope some will rear its sensible head.
keith
December 28th, 2012
8:05 pm
Cavaliers are playing with Great energy tonight…Kyrie Irving will go for 30 tonight….
J.J.M.
December 28th, 2012
8:05 pm
some of the hawks deff need to hit the weight room
High-sider
December 28th, 2012
8:06 pm
^Correction: “LD, is that enough “energy” for ya? [sarcasm]“
keith
December 28th, 2012
8:06 pm
Sounds like the Cleveland announcers have been DRINKING tonight!
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
8:07 pm
I wonder if the Hawks (without PG depth tonight), can play at the pace of the 1st quarter for the entire game?
Honesty
December 28th, 2012
8:08 pm
One of our Bigs need to Give Dion Waiters a “Welcome To the NBA” foul. Simply because he’s getting on my nerves.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
8:08 pm
Honesty, I’m a Bynum fan but he should NOT be schooling our PGs to the tune of 31 points.
keith
December 28th, 2012
8:08 pm
Why can’t these brothers figure this out????smdh!!!!
SOS hawks
December 28th, 2012
8:08 pm
J Smoove should never shot outside 2 ft. He continues to stink it up. Foul line is very weak also
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
8:09 pm
Wait, why the hell is Mike Scott playing?
Potential rebound hits Tolliver in his hands, bounces off and starts a Cleveland fast break.
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
8:09 pm
Cleveland is attacking the soft interior of the Hawks D!
That will keep them in the game and may manufacture a win for them…Hmmmmmmm
keith
December 28th, 2012
8:09 pm
Zaza is our best big in terms of getting “Bucketts”, Now then, that’s pretty sad commentary…..
Honesty
December 28th, 2012
8:10 pm
“Luke Walton looks like he has been working out with Mike Bibby.”
LMBO!
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
8:10 pm
I mean, I get that Ivan is out, but this is a team that routinely goes entire games without giving Ivan meaningful minutes. Now you’re telling me you need Mike Scott to give you minutes?
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
8:11 pm
Teague is balling….
Blast
December 28th, 2012
8:12 pm
Teague is the MAN!
cp
December 28th, 2012
8:12 pm
Jeff Mf’n Teague
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
8:12 pm
Teague got it going right now…. Watch LD takes him out
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
8:12 pm
Teague must like playing with Zaza… he is the only Hawk big who gives him the ball on fast breaks.
Teague looking to get some payback on Jeremy Pargo tonight. Love it!
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
8:12 pm
JT is playing great. Which means he is about to see a bench..
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
8:13 pm
Scott set a nice screen on that Teague drive, though.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
December 28th, 2012
8:13 pm
TEAGUE!!!!!!!
cp
December 28th, 2012
8:13 pm
LD dont pull Teague like you did in the Kings game. Let that boy cook
High-sider
December 28th, 2012
8:13 pm
Teague is ballin’. LD, go ahead and “call out” Teague everyday. He seems to respond (to unjust criticism). [sarcasm]
keith
December 28th, 2012
8:13 pm
This the best i have seen Jeff Teague look all year…This is amazing….Maybe the Mayans were right, the world may be ending soon…Teague is being agressive???
cp
December 28th, 2012
8:14 pm
WTF why is Teague on the bench.. SMDH. A repeat of that Kings game.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
8:14 pm
Got to rest him at some point. Especially without Devin playing.
keith
December 28th, 2012
8:15 pm
Now then, If Al Horford starts Blocking shots, then I know the earth is about to dissolve!!!
High-sider
December 28th, 2012
8:15 pm
This fool, LD, took Teague out (the game) while he was ballin’. [smh]
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
8:16 pm
Lou said, “Jeff who?”
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
8:17 pm
3 straught basekts for Hawks after Teague leaves. No reason to balk at getting Teague some first half rest.
High-sider
December 28th, 2012
8:17 pm
cp,
LD didn’t get your memo. Teague’s on the bench.
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
8:17 pm
Teague can rest at the half…
Honesty
December 28th, 2012
8:17 pm
AJ,
True, true. I was satisfied with the W. Teague/Lou definitely should have done a better job.
I have to b honest though, I was happy for Bynum. I wouldn’t have been had we not gotten the win though.
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
8:18 pm
Teagus is gone, watch the lead dissolve…
keith
December 28th, 2012
8:19 pm
We need Metta World Peace to come in here and “Elbow” some of these trash talking Cavaliers!!! I would love to Metta on this team…
cp
December 28th, 2012
8:19 pm
High-sider, yea I see that. I knew it was coming though.
Swingman912
December 28th, 2012
8:19 pm
LD does not believe in riding the hot hand….
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
8:19 pm
I guess LD trust Scott over Jenkins b/c there were the Hawks without 2/3 wing players and LD did not play Jenkins. I remember he chose to play Stevenson in the 2nd half in the game that Devin got hurt. That game was suppose to Stevenson rest game…..
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
8:19 pm
Larry will allow the Cavaliers to climb back into this game instead of burying them..
Swingman912
December 28th, 2012
8:20 pm
Lou running the point meant Lou is prob gonna the shot. Great if he makes em, but if he doesnt, then the Offense stalls and the Cavs get right back in it
keith
December 28th, 2012
8:20 pm
Great help defense by Zaza.. Watch Zaza closely Al Horford!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
8:21 pm
Bench has been in for 6 minutes and played very well, but don’t overplay that hand LD. Cleveland’s starters are back in; either Josh or Al (if not both) should be coming in right about now too.
keith
December 28th, 2012
8:22 pm
Zaza…Showing our Scrub Bigs how to run the court!!!!
High-sider
December 28th, 2012
8:22 pm
Tolliver is playing well – for now.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
8:23 pm
Slim, still waitring for that lead to dissolve?
keith
December 28th, 2012
8:23 pm
Zaza should be STARTING ahead of Al!!!!!
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
8:23 pm
Zaza just shot a layup?? Nice!
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
8:23 pm
I guess if Tolliver Magic is going to continue LD is going to ride it out as long as he can.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
8:24 pm
I’d rather have Teague rested to defend Irving in the 4th quarter… then try and win the game in the 2nd quarter.
Blast
December 28th, 2012
8:24 pm
2nd unit playing waaaaaay better than the starters except for Teague.
cp
December 28th, 2012
8:24 pm
Tolliver is really playing well. I might have to play the lotto tmw
Swingman912
December 28th, 2012
8:24 pm
Tolliver making his case for PT
High-sider
December 28th, 2012
8:24 pm
Tolliver is lookin’ like a “black Kyle Korver” out on the perimeter in this game tonight.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
8:25 pm
With Varejao out, Cleveland has no answer for Zaza. Zeller ain’t ready yet.
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
8:25 pm
AJ dont wet you pants. It’s only Cleveland dude..
bigdave
December 28th, 2012
8:25 pm
Bench hooping…
Jay Dubu
December 28th, 2012
8:25 pm
Good to see Mike Scott get some meaningful playing time.
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
8:26 pm
Tolliver is all over the floor. Hitting 3s, rebound put back, a block shot and taken a charger… Good 1st half….
keith
December 28th, 2012
8:26 pm
SCRUB A—- Tolliver is on fire tonight….The world must be ending!!!
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
8:26 pm
Take Mike Smith out….
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
8:28 pm
Slim, or you could have just said, “I was wrong, the team is still playing well”. Honesty is always an option on the blog.
Swingman912
December 28th, 2012
8:28 pm
Lead down to 5….starters please…bench produce WAY better than expected
keith
December 28th, 2012
8:28 pm
Larry Drew “Ought” to be somewhere selling Insurance…This guy is about as clueless at Coaching as Al is clueless about playing Center…..
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
8:28 pm
“Slim, still waiting for that lead to dissolve?” -AJ-
Say again ole wise one? hehehehehehehehehehehehehe
Blast
December 28th, 2012
8:28 pm
U cannot give Irving an ounce of daylight, man.
cp
December 28th, 2012
8:28 pm
I know Scott is a rookie but I just dont see any upside to his game at all.
High-sider
December 28th, 2012
8:29 pm
Is LD “calling out” Josh Smith (silently) by benching him (Josh) in the 2nd quarter? He’s back (in).
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
8:30 pm
Korver has had some problems keeping Alonzo Gee out of the lane so far.
Blast
December 28th, 2012
8:30 pm
Hawks don’t play good with a decent lead. And Korver needs to make some shots.
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
8:30 pm
Josh is having a terrible first half minus the first two mins of the game…
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
8:30 pm
down to 3 points. The lead be shrinking…
keith
December 28th, 2012
8:31 pm
Josh Smith to Baylor for Brittney Griner..At least Brittney can make her foul shots and play in the post….
Swingman912
December 28th, 2012
8:32 pm
Smoove hit both free throws?!?!
keith
December 28th, 2012
8:33 pm
Kyle Korver and Lou Will—Co-MVPs of your Atlanta Hawks boys…..Trade the rest of these Bums tonight…..
Honesty
December 28th, 2012
8:33 pm
Teague held Irving in check….then LD went with Lou.
Smh
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
8:34 pm
I like the way Waiters attacks the paint….
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
8:34 pm
Who gave Lou permission to run the iso-Joe play?
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
8:34 pm
SWEET LOU!
Josh with 5 TO’s
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
8:35 pm
OUCH!
J.J.M.
December 28th, 2012
8:35 pm
guess teague will only play agressive with the 2nd units
High-sider
December 28th, 2012
8:36 pm
After all that, the Hawks only have a one point lead at the half. [smh]
Honesty
December 28th, 2012
8:36 pm
We better crush this team in the second half. If JT has to play all 24 the so be it…and when was the last time Devin Harris played a full 82 game season? Man…
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
8:36 pm
Hey AJ we did not have to wait long? Huh?
Lead down to 1..lol
Man, Rod Strickland’s god son is something special..Just like Rod in his prime…
keith
December 28th, 2012
8:38 pm
I would trade Al and Josh for more scrubs and tank this season to get into the lottery…. Neither Josh nor AL
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
8:38 pm
Slim, Hawks extended the lead when Waiters and Irving went out. On a team like the Cavs, we can expect to extend the lead when their only 2 offensive players are resting.
High-sider
December 28th, 2012
8:38 pm
Josh Smith – 7pts, 3rebs, 3asts, 2blks and 5 TURNOVERS!!!!!!!…at the half
Rusty
December 28th, 2012
8:39 pm
Lou Wliliams played PG most of the 4th quarter,so what do you expect,LD had JT on the bench. I notice that when opponents are driving to the hoop Al never steps in front of them.
keith
December 28th, 2012
8:39 pm
I would trade Al and Josh for more scrubs and tank this season to get into the lottery…. Neither Josh nor AL will ever “LEAD” this Hawk team to an NBA Championship!!!!!!!
cp
December 28th, 2012
8:40 pm
Almost the same problems each game. Who didnt see that coming
cp
December 28th, 2012
8:41 pm
The Hawks are not a good team in terms of boxing out, struggle at the free throw line, and dont like passing the pg the ball on the break. How long have we been complaining about these issues?
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
8:43 pm
Cavs average around 94 points/game and are on pace to score over 100. And Lester Connor is home with sickness.
W.R. Terrell
December 28th, 2012
8:43 pm
Anthony Tolliver and Zsa Zsa along with Lou were lifesavers in the 2nd quarter. Hopefully JT can resume his good play and Kyle can pick his game up. I think Al will come thru with rebounds and points and who knows what the “Smoove”, will do. My feelings is that the HAWKS should be up by at least 10 and ready to push hard for a bigger lead in the 3rd and first 7 minutes of the 4th. This is a team the HAWKS should have beaten the 1st time and should beat tonight. I really hope “STOOPID” has left the building.
Just Joe
December 28th, 2012
8:44 pm
Only problem I see is we allowed them to shoot 47% (26 pts in the paint). Tighten up the defense a little, and we should be fine.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
8:44 pm
That Ciroc commercial has some very average looking women in it. Very strange choice… for a Diddy ad.
MattP
December 28th, 2012
8:45 pm
Why has Lou played more minutes than Teague?
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
8:48 pm
Nets responded to the firing of Avery by winning their first quarter without him, 33-15.
SteveW
December 28th, 2012
8:48 pm
Why don’t the Cavs play Leuer? Isn’t he Kevin McHale Jr according to somebody who at least used to visit the blog (sarcasm)?
Remember he wanted us to trade half the team for Leuer, and the other half for bogut, our two missing pieces…
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
8:48 pm
” I notice that when opponents are driving to the hoop Al never steps in front of them.”
He’s watching like the rest of us.
Bet he has not taken 1 charge this season thus far? Hmmmmmmm
cp
December 28th, 2012
8:48 pm
MattP. LD is the coach. I hope Teague can get it going again in the second half but wont be shocked if its a repeat of the Kings game. Great first quarter, gets pulled then cant get back into his rhythm
cp
December 28th, 2012
8:49 pm
If tonight is any indication of how Josh will play after he and LD talk, then I hope that was the last talk of the season.
SteveW
December 28th, 2012
8:50 pm
As for this game, all I can say is the Cavs are getting some nice pieces, and I’m glad varejo is out
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
8:50 pm
“Only problem I see is we allowed them to shoot 47% (26 pts in the paint). Tighten up the defense a little, and we should be fine.”
With this SOFT Front Line do not expect any change..Cleveland will hang in there and potentially pull out another win..
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
8:51 pm
Irving is going for 30-35 tonight..
Blast
December 28th, 2012
8:52 pm
Game of runs. Who gets the last one?
2 FOR JOHN DREW
December 28th, 2012
8:52 pm
AJ …… how can Lester Conner help us ? Is he that big of a difference ?
Jesse
December 28th, 2012
8:54 pm
All of the NBA players are now to “buddy buddy.” Back in the 80s there wasn’t this nice chit chat on the floor. It made it more entertaining to watch.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
8:54 pm
Connor is the defensive coordinator. Hawks give up aqround 94 PPG but appear like they will give up over 105 tonight.
Jesse
December 28th, 2012
8:55 pm
Wasn’t Teague supposed to be good on D? Bynum and now this? Come on JT, pick it up. I know Irving has hit some tough shots, but he needs to be a shut down PG
2 FOR JOHN DREW
December 28th, 2012
8:55 pm
I see …. Thanks
J.J.M.
December 28th, 2012
8:55 pm
Send josh to the bench
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
8:56 pm
I’d like to see them run more plays to get Al looks around the basket, like the one they ran out of the timeout.
Of course, the Hawks’ main problem right now is on the other end of the floor.
Honesty
December 28th, 2012
8:57 pm
You would THINK the players on the court would realize that JT was hobbling and run the play through somone else but thee looked about as clueless as Mike Woodson in a Time Out.
J.J.M.
December 28th, 2012
8:57 pm
Teague getting raped again by another elite point guard
Rusty
December 28th, 2012
8:58 pm
Buddy G you are exactly right the only reason LD said anything to Josh was the fans reaction to his jumping on JT. I just started to watch the game on the DVR 6 minutes into the game . Apparently Josh
Isn’t listening to him,he has taken 6 outside jumpers making 1′ Maybe LD said to him help me out but you really don’t to pay any attention to what I say. Just seen a fast break with Al in between the shooter
& the basket ,Al might as well not been there at all. That was 4 not 6 shots.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
8:58 pm
Gotta run something for Lou. If he isn’t attacking on offense, then why is he playing?
J.J.M.
December 28th, 2012
8:58 pm
Why is korver even on the floor?
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
8:59 pm
Terrible start to the 3rd qtr for the Hawks….
cp
December 28th, 2012
8:59 pm
How hard is it to block out? Teague we need more of that
Jesse
December 28th, 2012
8:59 pm
If the starting 5 is getting run off the floor in the first five min, why not sub?
Honesty
December 28th, 2012
9:01 pm
Dang Lou…
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
9:02 pm
Run more plays for Al and Korver, or get Zaza in the game.
Admiral SnAckbar
December 28th, 2012
9:03 pm
Korver is one smart BB player.
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:04 pm
Al getting beatdown!
Josh with 4 blocks! but shooting 2-10
Honesty
December 28th, 2012
9:04 pm
Bob Rathbun and his “Miss-calls” really annoy me. Everyone in the building KNOWS it’s the opposite call except YOU Smh…
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
9:04 pm
Good flop by Zaza.
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:04 pm
Al aint playing any d! Sit his azz down….
Just Joe
December 28th, 2012
9:05 pm
Teague broke 20!!!!
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
9:06 pm
Josh didn’t see a pass on the fast break coming. Been too long since he allowed someone else to lead a fast break.
Blast
December 28th, 2012
9:06 pm
Say it again, Jeff is the MAN! Korver finally stepping up. Game of runs!
Honesty
December 28th, 2012
9:06 pm
Korver playing some serious D right now.
cp
December 28th, 2012
9:06 pm
Teague with another bucket but apparently Irvin is not getting raped only Teague is if we go by J.J.M.’s lotic
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:06 pm
Teague is turning into the Hawks best player!
This guy should play 40 mins a night at least!
cp
December 28th, 2012
9:07 pm
Let the youngin play LD
Swingman912
December 28th, 2012
9:07 pm
Slimjr
He should!!! Offense should run thru him EVERY GAME
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:08 pm
josh with 5 Blocks!
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
9:08 pm
Teague must be tired b/c I dont understand why he’s on the bench if not…
Swingman912
December 28th, 2012
9:09 pm
And out comes the Hot Hand(Teague)…smh
cp
December 28th, 2012
9:09 pm
Lou at the point huh SMDH
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:09 pm
sweet lou!
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:09 pm
josh 2-11
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:10 pm
Josh should be benched for taking that 3!
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
9:10 pm
Josh had Luke Walton in the post, Lou dribbled away from him and the possession ended with a Josh missed 3. There was enough time on the clock that Josh didn’t have to take the shot, but also poor recognition by Lou on an obvious mismatch (one that Teague recognizes 9 times out of 10).
High-sider
December 28th, 2012
9:10 pm
DET currently has a double-digit lead on MIA.
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
9:11 pm
Morrow is out for the rest of the game. Will Jenkins get some mins now?
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
9:11 pm
Half the blog are big Josh fans who won’t say much about his performance tonight. The other half are so used to watching bad shot selection that they feel like there is nothing left to say.
J.J.M.
December 28th, 2012
9:12 pm
Hawks need a hardcore coach who won’t be scared benching josh…put away your pride ld
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:12 pm
JOSH is sucking on offense tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Blast
December 28th, 2012
9:12 pm
Cavs living at the line this 3rd qrt.
cp
December 28th, 2012
9:13 pm
At some point one would hope that LD would recognize that letting Lou initiate the offense just doesnt work. Dude is a scorer not a pg
Honesty
December 28th, 2012
9:14 pm
AJ,
So true! Nowadays I just take deep breaths after poor play from him lol.
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:14 pm
Cleveland is going to pull this out I’m afraid..
Josh is shooting blanks tonight. Al is getting destroyed by their big out on the perimeter..That stopped once Zaza replaced him…Hmmmmmm
W.R. Terrell
December 28th, 2012
9:15 pm
“STOOPID” has not left the building!!!!!!!!!
cp
December 28th, 2012
9:15 pm
Yea Josh has been absolutely terrible tonight
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:15 pm
Lou is Two guard Larry!!!!
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
9:16 pm
Here come Jenkins…
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:16 pm
Take over JEFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
9:17 pm
Jenkins hits his 1st shot
Honesty
December 28th, 2012
9:17 pm
Jenkins In the Game! JJ for two!!!
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:17 pm
Jenkins with a tough shot off glass!!!!!!! Nice
High-sider
December 28th, 2012
9:17 pm
If MIA loses and ATL loses, this will be a wasted opportunity to move up in the standing for ATL.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
9:17 pm
Nice shot by Jenkins going to his left.
LakeDawg
December 28th, 2012
9:17 pm
Smoooove is the last piece of deadwood that needs to be cut out of the Hawks.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
9:17 pm
It would be interesting to see how many points Teague scored on Pargo.
Nice drive by Jenkins.
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:18 pm
John Jenkins may save the day!
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
9:18 pm
A.T. stays H O T.
High-sider
December 28th, 2012
9:18 pm
^standings (tryin’ to do too much)
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
9:18 pm
“Yea Josh has been absolutely terrible tonight”
On offense, yeah. He has bailed out his teammates time and again on defense, though, which is a big reason why LD hasn’t benched him like half this blog would like for him to do.
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
9:19 pm
Jeff Teague…
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:19 pm
Teague with 25
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
9:19 pm
Congrats to Teague on his career high.
High-sider
December 28th, 2012
9:20 pm
Got three games going on League Pass Broadband.
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:20 pm
Pulled the Chair on AL///
Swingman912
December 28th, 2012
9:20 pm
and some of yall wanna trade this guy Teague. Barely scratching the surface
Honesty
December 28th, 2012
9:20 pm
Smh!!!! Get a Rebound!!!
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
9:20 pm
Teague is tired… He need a quick blow…
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:20 pm
That was funny Al!!!!!!!!!!!!
cp
December 28th, 2012
9:21 pm
Was that Teague again. I wonder if his biggest fan is going to go on mute like he did last game once he saw Teague balling
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
9:21 pm
Horford with a career high in blocked shots… 1 (according to many around here).
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:22 pm
Al forget posting up dude..Just sorry
cp
December 28th, 2012
9:22 pm
Yea Najeh I was strictly talking on the offensive end. He has been good defensively. And man the coaches really need to set aside some practice time to focus on boxing out
Honesty
December 28th, 2012
9:23 pm
Teague’s previous career high was 24pts 15assists against Cleveland in his rookie season when Woodson let him play for 48 minutes (last game of the season).
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:23 pm
IRVING IS MATCHING TEAGUE
Honesty
December 28th, 2012
9:24 pm
Al Needs to get it together and get some buckets.
2 FOR JOHN DREW
December 28th, 2012
9:24 pm
We need Teague & the 2nd unit to come in & save this game
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
9:24 pm
Al haven’t been able to score on Luke Walton nor Pargo on post up plays….SMH
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:24 pm
Irving was the #1 pick ahead of Derrick Williams in 2011..
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
9:24 pm
Teague has been great tonight but that last 3 that Irving made is a shot Teague cannot make because of his low release point. The release point on his jumper is the one thing, more than anything else, that limits his ceiling.
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
9:25 pm
Jenkins with a 3…..
Big Ray
December 28th, 2012
9:25 pm
I’m likin’ some John Jenkins…
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:25 pm
“Al haven’t been able to score on Luke Walton nor Pargo on post up plays….SMH”
He is sorry on the block
2 FOR JOHN DREW
December 28th, 2012
9:25 pm
JENKINS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please Answer This
December 28th, 2012
9:25 pm
Josh should be nothing more than a potential energizer or game-changer off the bench. If he comes in flying around, blocking shots, running the floor dunking in transition and defending, then he is a serious weapon on any given night.
If not, he plays a few minutes and is done. Honestly, that’s all he’s really suited for. Certainly not suited for a dependable leading role.
Big Ray
December 28th, 2012
9:25 pm
Weak move by Al.
Just weak.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
9:25 pm
Jenkins looking pretty solid in meaningful minutes.
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:26 pm
Al gets his shot blocked!
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
9:26 pm
I like the way Jenkins plays.
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:27 pm
Al has been shut down
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
9:27 pm
Lou has scored well in this game but he has played poorly at point guard even by his usual standards. Several awful passes so far including that one he just made.
Big Ray
December 28th, 2012
9:27 pm
Some sloppy play out there.
Ok….so who ALSO laughed when Horford had the chair pulled out from under him earlier?
I couldn’t help myself…
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
9:27 pm
Hawks have dodge a bullet the last few possession on defense…
cp
December 28th, 2012
9:27 pm
Big 3 by the rook and by Lou. And man as soon as Lou makes a good play he comes makes a bad one smh
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
9:28 pm
Jenkins didn’t go for Irving’s shake & bake move. He stayed in good defensive position. He had a nice sint on the floor of a close game in the 4th quarter. Very promising.
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:28 pm
#15 HAS BEEN SHUT DOWN BY TWO SCRUBS..SORRY
Honesty
December 28th, 2012
9:28 pm
Why do I get the feeling LD was playing Jenkins with Lou so they would fail so he would look better? Teague/Jenkins should be in the game right ow. I like that three by Lou though.
kwooden1
December 28th, 2012
9:28 pm
Good work from Jenkins, really nice to see!
2 FOR JOHN DREW
December 28th, 2012
9:29 pm
Jenkins has a beautiful jumper …. Can’t wait til he gets into rotation
kwooden1
December 28th, 2012
9:29 pm
This is one of those games where we just can’t get stops, hopefully we will score just enough to win.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
9:29 pm
Bad night for Al. He’s been very, very average tonight. On both ends of the floor.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
9:30 pm
Why the f-ck is Lou still in at PG?
Big Ray
December 28th, 2012
9:30 pm
Al’s been shut down.
Mid-range Shawty has been all but shut out.
And the Hawks are turning it over left and right.
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
9:30 pm
Did Nique just say Tegue instead of Teague..
cp
December 28th, 2012
9:30 pm
And some on here really want Lou as the pg smdh
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:31 pm
Yea I despise his post game and was the 3rd freaking pick?
Mookie Blaylock
December 28th, 2012
9:31 pm
All-Star, Star Studded front court of Al and Josh stinkin it up again?
Big Ray
December 28th, 2012
9:31 pm
Why the f-ck is Lou still in at PG?
Rhetorical question….right? LOL…
Look at it this way, dude. It’s Lou and not Hinrich….that’s your only consolation.
I hear Avery Johnson is available….
Honesty
December 28th, 2012
9:31 pm
LD is so damn stupid! Really LD? Smh…and He pulls Jenkis instead of Lou!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
9:32 pm
LD keeping Zaza in for Josh. I’m not complaining based on how Josh played on offense, but let’s hope the perimeter defense holds up.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
9:32 pm
Sweet pass by Al.
No thanks to Avery. Please, no Avery.
J.J.M.
December 28th, 2012
9:34 pm
Irving taking it teague…will teague drive on him?
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:34 pm
Al maybe done.. too bad
Honesty
December 28th, 2012
9:34 pm
Imma make a prediction. Teague/Jenkins will be the starting back-court by the end of the season. Someone will pint out LD’s stupidity to him eventually.
Big Ray
December 28th, 2012
9:34 pm
Slimjr ,
Horford was the 3rd pick because he was the most “NBA ready.”
Dude is not having a good night…yet he’s still shooting 50% from the field and will likely end the night with a double double.
Of course, his frontcourt partner is having a worse night if you ask me, and our guards are carrying the team tonight. Is what it is….
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
9:34 pm
Al hurt, Morrow hurt, Harris hurt, Josh was grabbing his leg and wincing at the end of the 3rd quarter, Ivan and Lester Conner are already out…
cp
December 28th, 2012
9:35 pm
That boy out there eating
J.J.M.
December 28th, 2012
9:35 pm
I agree with keeping josh on the bench just didn’t think coach had the balls
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:35 pm
Teague taking it to Irving;
Irving with 28
Jeff with 27
Matching shot for shot.. Nice!
High-sider
December 28th, 2012
9:35 pm
Detroit still has a double-digit lead on Miami.
kwooden1
December 28th, 2012
9:36 pm
Jeff, with one of the best games of his career! Irving is a great player and Jeff is staying right with him.
Honesty
December 28th, 2012
9:36 pm
Al didn’t wanna work tonight. Let’s be honest. Very Un-Boss-like performance from him tonight.
Big Ray
December 28th, 2012
9:36 pm
Don’t know what’s wrong with Josh.
Usually, when he’s having a bad shooting night, he’s brilliant with the ball in his hands (or at least very helpful).
And I’d say that tonight is such an example, seeing as how he’s dished 6 assists. But the 5 turnovers put a damper on it, nearly nullifying the assists.
Rough nights happen.
Agreed with Najeh on the perimeter concerns…..
Slimjr
December 28th, 2012
9:37 pm
Al finally hit a big shot
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
9:37 pm
Al still isn’t moving like he’s anywhere near 100% but big time clutch jumper by him.
Honesty
December 28th, 2012
9:37 pm
And then he drains a jumper to shut me up smh…
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
9:37 pm
Awful shot by Uncle Drew.
kwooden1
December 28th, 2012
9:37 pm
I hope Josh isn’t really hurt, we need him tomorrow.
cp
December 28th, 2012
9:38 pm
Yes sirrrrrrrr
Mookie Blaylock
December 28th, 2012
9:38 pm
Guards carrying the team again…
SteveW
December 28th, 2012
9:38 pm
Jeff Teague is terrible. I wish Jeff could go for 27 every so often. Oh wait…
2 FOR JOHN DREW
December 28th, 2012
9:38 pm
Big Ray ….. You think the fellas tune out LD ….. Think what they’d do if they had to listen to that voice ( Avery Johnson ) for 82 games … lol
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
9:38 pm
Cavs fell apart in the final few minutes while the Hawks held their composure.
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
9:38 pm
Big 3 by Korver
Rusty
December 28th, 2012
9:38 pm
Keith what network are you watching or are you drunk saying the Cleveland announcers sound drunk,I’m watching the game on sportsouth & the announcers are Nique & Bob.
J.J.M.
December 28th, 2012
9:38 pm
Good sportsmanship by josh giving zaza some love
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
9:38 pm
If Josh is hurt, it wasn’t serious enough for him to go back to the locker room. Probably a combination of poor offensive play, whatever injury he had at the end of the 3rd, and Zaza playing well is keeping him on the bench.
Swingman912
December 28th, 2012
9:39 pm
Yall still wanna trade Teague?? (silence)
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
9:40 pm
The was a big jumpshot by AL. He’s clearly hurt…
Blast
December 28th, 2012
9:40 pm
Korver comes up big when it counts. Zaza has been huge! Don’t know if Al should be playing right now. I guess Drew needs to keep Josh on the bench to teach him a lesson.
DS
December 28th, 2012
9:40 pm
Big props to LD for sitting Josh when he’s not playing well and giving the rooks some minutes
Rusty
December 28th, 2012
9:41 pm
The only thing that will keep JT from be coming a star is LD.
Big Ray
December 28th, 2012
9:41 pm
I don’t think keeping Josh on the bench had much to do with having the balls to do it.
Josh just couldn’t get it going where it was needed. Blocked 5 damn shots….you gotta give up the love for that.
Problem has been the turnovers and the shooting. Just having a rough game, though decision-makking continues to be an issue…as this blog thread suggests….
Horford hasn’t had it, either. Bummy game, though a double double yet again.
Thing is, LD’s coaching never seems to allow either player to get out of a rut.
I’ve noticed this – if a player gets in a rut…they’re just in a rut. They’ll have to figure it out themselves, LD has issues putting them into place to break out of a slump.
Then again, I can’t blame LD for bad shot selection, lack of motivation, lack of energy….oh wait…those sound like post game quotes…
J.J.M.
December 28th, 2012
9:41 pm
How zaza not dunk that…oh nvm he’s hurt
Honesty
December 28th, 2012
9:41 pm
Ooooh! JT with the tasty dish!
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
9:41 pm
Why didnt AL dunk that? The shouldve been another assist for Teague….
J.J.M.
December 28th, 2012
9:42 pm
*horford my bad
Blast
December 28th, 2012
9:42 pm
Ball game! Great win!!!!!!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
9:42 pm
Cavs fans are probably going to be b-tching at Byron Scott for playing Miles over Gee in this 4th quarter. Gee was +3 and shut down Korver; Miles was -21.
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
9:42 pm
Good win by the Hawks….
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
9:42 pm
Good defense to close the game. Without their defensive captain on the floor. Nice road win.
kwooden1
December 28th, 2012
9:43 pm
Solid WIN! Really solid! I like the way they finished, making free-throws and knocking down open shots.
GO HAWKS!!
Just Joe
December 28th, 2012
9:43 pm
LD will now take credit for Teague playing well.
W.R. Terrell
December 28th, 2012
9:43 pm
“STOOPID FINALLY LEFT THE BUILDING!”
Big Ray
December 28th, 2012
9:43 pm
2 For John Drew ,
That was a joke. I want no parts of that noisy midget. And neither do most NBA players….hence Avery Johnson having a hard time getting a job between the time he got fired by the Mavs and got hired by the Nets.
Clearly there is some other places to place blame in Brooklyn, but the HC is the HC…and often the first to go.
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
9:44 pm
I have to give LD some credit tonight. He mix and match the lineups thru out the game. Playing the rookie Scott in the 1st half. Giving Tolliver mins. Playing the rookie Jenkins in the 4th qtr. And benching Josh the entire 4th qtr…
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
9:44 pm
Nice to see them scrap and get a win even if they had to struggle against a bad team missing one of its two best players.
Looking ahead to tomorrow, if LD doesn’t start the big lineup, I think we can consider the big lineup officially dead. If there was any team against which the big lineup would be ideal, it is Indiana.
High-sider
December 28th, 2012
9:44 pm
This Hawks team is impressive; it (the Hawks team) keeps finding a way to win.
Melvin
December 28th, 2012
9:45 pm
Kyle Korver with 3 blocks tonight. The sneaky defender he is…LOL
bigdave
December 28th, 2012
9:46 pm
Continuation of his OT play…. keep playing off Jeff til it proves to be less than an advantage
JaeEvolution
December 28th, 2012
9:46 pm
John Jenkins projects to the Hawks exactly what Danny Green is for the Spurs.
Donald Caldwell
December 28th, 2012
9:46 pm
drew seems to favor lou a little bit too much. lou off the bench. he’s TO prone and a bad passer. Give the rook a chance. we nearly blew another one.
cp
December 28th, 2012
9:46 pm
Good win. Big game from Teague. Good contributions from guys off the bench like Zaza, Jenkins, and Tolliver. Al had a double double. Josh was terrible on the offensive end but played some nice defense. I like Lou’s scoring tonight but I hate seeing him at point. With Morrow hurt I guess Jenkins will get some pt now. And oh yea clutch 3 by Korver
Mookie Blaylock
December 28th, 2012
9:46 pm
guess we provided some inspiration. Detroit is about the beat the Heat, and Bynum is having another big game.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
9:46 pm
Just Joe, IMO, Teague played well because Jeremy Pargo lit him up a few weeks ago. And Teague really took off when Pargo entered the game. Let’s hope that Teaue keeps his “big boy pants” on tomnorrow and for several games thereafter. And let’s hope that he can be that aggressive even when #5 is playing his usual minutes.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 28th, 2012
9:47 pm
“I want no parts of that noisy midget. And neither do most NBA players….hence Avery Johnson having a hard time getting a job between the time he got fired by the Mavs and got hired by the Nets.”
I think that had a lot to do with his salary demands, too.
I’m not the world’s biggest Avery Johnson fan but I don’t think Brooklyn’s talent adds up to a team that is much better than the current one. Lopez can’t rebound or defend, Humphries is really only good at rebounding, they don’t have a ton of depth, and their well-paid shooting guard’s former team is proving that maybe he isn’t so valuable after all. Even if they get Phil Jackson or something (and I’m at a loss as to why he would want to go there) I don’t see them getting past the 2nd round. They are nowhere near the Heat and Knicks’ talent level.
2 FOR JOHN DREW
December 28th, 2012
9:47 pm
So true … I felt that sarcasm oozing out of ya …. lol
JaeEvolution
December 28th, 2012
9:47 pm
By the way Devin Harris for Bynum and Daye, anyone?
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2012
9:48 pm
Teague says “coach pulled me aside and told me to be aggressive for now on”. So is teague being a politician or wshould we actually give LD some credit? Never mind, Teague was just saying the politcally correct thing. NEVER give credit to the head coach.