Atlanta Hawks: Hawks 126, Pistons 119 2OT (updated)

Vivlamore reporting.

A 22-point fourth-quarter lead was not big enough.

The Hawks needed nine points in double overtime from Jeff Teague for a 126-119 victory over the Pistons Wednesday night at Philips Arena. The Hawks nearly gift-wrapped and gave away a game they dominated for three and a half quarters.

The Pistons erased the huge Hawks’ lead as the final comeback points coming on Austin Daye’s 3-pointer with four seconds remaining in regulation. Al Horford hit the first of two free throws to tie the score at 101-101 with 1.8 seconds left and force overtime.

The Pistons got five points from Will Bynum in the first overtime but the Hawks answered with a 3-pointer by Lou Williams and a basket by Horford.

“It wasn’t as much as what they were doing as what we were doing,” coach Larry Drew said. “We got a little complacent. We started playing the lead. We stopped executing. Defensively, as good as we were in the first half, we were just as bad in the second half. We had defensive breakdowns. We had too many lapses. We were leaving 3-point shooters. Our coverages weren’t as sharp as they were in the first half. Once (the lead got cut) to 10, I could see our guys looking at the scoreboard.”

Teague gave the Hawks the lead for good, 113-112, on a 3-pointer with 2:46 remaining in the second overtime. He added a steal and two free throws after a clear-path foul, a layup and two more free throws. The Hawks also got five points from Kyle Korver, including a big 3-pointer, and four points from Williams in the second overtime.

Teague said he was eager to make amends for a fourth-quarter defensive lapse on the Pistons’ Will Bynum.

“I was just trying to be aggressive,” Teague said. “I felt like I was the reason the lead was cut, that play when Bynum made that play at half-court, stole the ball and got the and-one layup (with 8:22 remaining that cut the Hawks’ lead to 89-74). That switched the momentum. I know we were up by 15 (points) but I thought that really got them going. When I got an opportunity to get back on the floor I just wanted to make the most of it.

The Hawks jumped to their commanding lead thanks to Josh Smith.

First-quarter score: Smith 14, Pistons 12.

The Hawks star forward outscored the entire Pistons team in the opening period. Add the rest of Smith’s teammates and the Hawks held a 15-point advantage after just 12 minutes. It was not enough.

Smith finished with 31 points, the most by a Hawks player this season and seven off his career-high (38 at Milwaukee, Nov. 17, 2007). It was Smith’s first 30-point game, and 18th of his career, since he scored 34 at Philadelphia on March 31. Smith added 10 rebounds, six assists and two blocks.

“I was being aggressive,” Smith said. “I was just trying to get the energy up of our players. I started off early with it.”

The Hawks (17-9) won their second straight and kept a firm hold on third place in the Eastern Conference. It was their third straight win over the Pistons and ninth straight at Philips Arena.

The Hawks also got double-figure scoring from Horford (22), Williams (18), Teague (17) and Anthony Morrow (16). Morrow scored seven of his points in the fourth quarter.

The Pistons (9-22) had a two-game win streak snapped and have won only three road games all season. The Pistons have losing streaks of eight (to start the season) and six games.

The Pistons were led by Bynum with 31 points. He was part of 85 bench-points from the Pistons. Bynum made 4-of-6 3-pointers after entering the game with three from long range all season.

The Hawks were nearly done in by their free-throw shooting. After making the first nine, the Hawks made just six of their next 14. They did ice the game by making all eight free throws in double overtime.

“It hasn’t caught up to us yet where we’ve lost the game but if we don’t start making our free throws, particularly in crunch-time situations, we can be in that situation very easily,” Drew said.

Smith finished with 21 first-half points, five rebounds, an assist and a block. Smith shot 9 for 12, including a making a 3-point attempt. The point total was the most in a half by a Hawk player this season.

The Hawks built the early lead with first-quarter runs of 9-1 and 13-0. During the later run, which increased the Hawks’ lead to 16 points at 26-10, the Pistons went a full five minutes without scoring. They missed eight straight shots during the ice-cold stretch.

The Pistons closed to within four points at halftime, 50-45, as they doubled their shooting percentage from 25 to 50 percent.

However, the Hawks pushed the lead back to 19 points, 81-62, at the end of the third quarter. The lead grew to as many as 22 points in the fourth quarter. The Pistons cut into the lead with six 3-pointers in the final quarter, setting up the late-game dramatics.

“I’m just glad we won,” Horford said. “I know it didn’t go the way we wanted but I’m just glad we got this win.”

- Chris Vivlamore

145 comments Add your comment

High-sider

December 26th, 2012
10:34 pm

High-sider

December 26th, 2012
10:34 pm

Rod from College Park

December 26th, 2012
10:35 pm

I guess a win is a win

High-sider

December 26th, 2012
10:36 pm

Dang, C-Viv, you “be on it” when it comes to “churning out” (writing) these articles. You “real time” like a “big dog.”

High-sider

December 26th, 2012
10:38 pm

LD should have played Morrow at the end of this game even though Korver made a “big shot” and two clutch free throws in (I think) double OT.

Dumb and Dumber

December 26th, 2012
10:39 pm

keith

December 26th, 2012
7:27 pm

This line-up possibly may be the most talented 5 Hawk players on the floor, minus Jeff Teague. Start Devin at the point and see what happens if he’s healthy……

keith

December 26th, 2012
7:44 pm

Teague has no confidence in his jump shot, PERIOD!!!

keith

December 26th, 2012
8:54 pm

Jeff “Scrub” Teague… Get him out of there!!!!!!

keith

December 26th, 2012
9:15 pm

New starting 5 going forward!!!!!!!!!

PG-LouWill
SG-A Morrow
SF-Korver
PF-Josh
C-Horford

J.J.M.

December 26th, 2012
9:33 pm

Hawks guards getting rapeddd

J.J.M.

December 26th, 2012
9:44 pm

And why y’all keep screaming for teague? Point guard drives and passes it up to josh for 3?

J.J.M.

December 26th, 2012
9:53 pm

Guard blows by teague again for they alley oop

keith

December 26th, 2012
10:10 pm

The Basketball Gods are helping these BIG DUMMIES 2-night!!!!!!!

keith

December 26th, 2012
10:12 pm

JOSH AND AL……………………………ENOUGH SAID….TAKE THEM OFF THE ALL-STAR BALLOT TONIGHT!!!

Big Daddy

December 26th, 2012
10:41 pm

Hawks were lucky to come out with a win. You can’t let a team you have down by over 20 points come back and make the game competitive. They got too jump shot happy.

High-sider

December 26th, 2012
10:47 pm

The Detroit Pistons coach (Lawrence Frank) might be starting the wrong five (players). Look at which players scored points for the Pistons tonight; check out the box score.

http://www.nba.com/games/20121226/DETATL/gameinfo.html?ls=iref:nbahpgt0021200414

doc

December 26th, 2012
10:49 pm

Slimjr

December 26th, 2012
10:49 pm

Hey Danny play through your guards and see how far that will take you…

Ask Sund, he already tried it…

Rev in Tampa

December 26th, 2012
10:49 pm

I am frustrated by the way the Hawks let go of the lead so easily, but I am happy for the fans at Philips tonight. And exciting brand of basketball for 3 quarters, high intensity at the end of regulation and loads of free basketball, and a Hawks win. They got their money’s worth.

I took my children to the 2 overtime win against the Wizards over Thanksgiving. I really enjoyed myself while you guys on the blog were moaning about the Hawks barely beating the winless Wiz.

Melvin

December 26th, 2012
10:53 pm

Some wins are harder than others… I will take it…

Slimjr

December 26th, 2012
10:53 pm

This is the kind of Game that Josh and Allstar Al should dominate from beginning to end! Period!

doc

December 26th, 2012
10:54 pm

cviv, it almost worked …. for three quarters.

najeh, just checked on your guy conley to compare lin to; 382 games he has played and scored greater than 25, 7 times, never more than 28. lin, 92 games, also with 7 games with at least 25 points and top game 38 the other night.

you know their stats are so similar they might have used conley as a template to offer 8 mil a year then threw poison in for the last year. hmmmm.

Melvin

December 26th, 2012
10:55 pm

We saw enough of keith post on the game blog. I don’t know why someone would copy and paste his post again on this blog…SMH

Melvin

December 26th, 2012
10:57 pm

Devin Harris/ Petro for Corey Maggette. The Pistons are not using him…

keith

December 26th, 2012
10:59 pm

Slimjr
December 26th, 2012
10:53 pm

This is the kind of Game that Josh and Allstar Al should dominate from beginning to end! Period!

DITTO!!!!!

keith

December 26th, 2012
11:01 pm

AL Horford–Jeff Teague…and …Kyle Korver to Utah for Al Jefferson and Derek Favors????? How does that taste?????

kwooden1

December 26th, 2012
11:03 pm

HAWKS have to learn to finish these kinds of games, but I also think Bynum was in a Zone in the 4th. We’re not a team that can get stops when they need to, so they will always lose leads. With that said they play a fun brand of basketball, and it looked like everyone at Phillips got their money’s worth. I like Lou as a starter because it brings his scoring to the table right at the start of the game. Jeff did a nice job of finishing this game at the line and with a nice assist to Korver. (even though Korver wasn’t shooting the ball great, Jeff passed it to him with confidence) I think Jeff’s pick and roll defense is getting better also.

Not a great win but I will take it.

GO HAWKS!!

keith

December 26th, 2012
11:04 pm

I have lost enough sleep tonight watching Josh Smith shoot “Air Balls”…Would rather trade Josh Smith, however, i do not believe his trade value is very high….

keith

December 26th, 2012
11:09 pm

Al Jefferson tonight—18 points—–10 rebounds 1—Blocked shot……

kwooden1

December 26th, 2012
11:09 pm

Slimjr, Detroit usually causes the HAWKS problems because of their size, but tonight they turned the ball over so much it really didn’t matter. They still killed us on the boards and Bynum had it stuck on automatic!

Najeh Davenpoop

December 26th, 2012
11:13 pm

“najeh, just checked on your guy conley to compare lin to; 382 games he has played and scored greater than 25, 7 times, never more than 28. lin, 92 games, also with 7 games with at least 25 points and top game 38 the other night.

you know their stats are so similar they might have used conley as a template to offer 8 mil a year then threw poison in for the last year. hmmmm.”

You really stretched my comments way beyond what I said. All I said is that being undrafted shouldn’t matter anymore since the market revalued him at $8 million per year. I never said he wasn’t living up to it, just that he needs to start more than a half a season’s worth of games before making that determination. I would have said the same thing if, for example, Teague got a shiny new contract after the 2nd round series against the Bulls when he held his own against Derrick Rose.

Conley is far from “my guy” but I wonder how many 20 point games Lin would have if his primary responsibility was to set up two premier post scorers as opposed to getting his own. I think it’s fair to ask that without being biased.

steve brown

December 26th, 2012
11:15 pm

Josh “AB” Smith was an All-star for around the first half of the game and a bum for the remainder. The leader of a team doesn’t continually cry to the refs and pout when things don’t go his way. Smith needs to look in the mirror and get mad at himself for his utter lack of smart, clutch basketball when it counts. He blames everyone but himself and it is utterly juvenile. Grow the hell up.

steve brown

December 26th, 2012
11:18 pm

Coach Drew needs to get the ball in the hands of foul shooters at the end – what the hell is he thinking.

High-sider

December 26th, 2012
11:28 pm

Slimjr,

J.R. Smith hits another game-winner for your Knicks!!!!!

High-sider

December 26th, 2012
11:30 pm

Nuggets chisel Lakers, 126 – 114. D’Antoni, what’s the problem?

High-sider

December 26th, 2012
11:31 pm

Slimjr

December 26th, 2012
11:37 pm

High-sider, J.R. Smith would be a starter on many squads..

I just knew Al was going to miss the winning free throw.. He knew it too? lol!

fair weather fan

December 26th, 2012
11:37 pm

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaair-ball Josh…..

might be a spot on the globe trotters if he can get more diciplined

2 FOR JOHN DREW

December 26th, 2012
11:48 pm

@ Steve Brown ………. With Josh ” It is what it is ” …… I’ve never watched a player in all my years of being a sports enthusiast, that makes me so high w/ pride one minute & the next minute just drunk w/ fury. He plays so well, then w/ all them shooters …. He launches these God-awful low percentage shots ( air balled a couple) at critical times in the game. And makes it worse, when he hits the dang blame thing cause he gets full of himself & you know he’s gonna without fail ….. do it over & over again WOW …. But he’s my guy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

O'Brien

December 26th, 2012
11:58 pm

Happy for the win, although I didn’t like the way the game played out.

We saw the recipe for the Hawks losing. 33% from 3 (missed 22 of them), and -15 on the boards. Luckily we did enough things well to overcome it.

One thing that concerns me is once the Hawks train gets off the track, LD seems powerless to stop it. And how come there seemed to be no defensive adjustment on Bynum (although he made some tough shots)?

And in crunch time, I do not want Josh or Al taking FTs.

High-sider

December 27th, 2012
12:02 am

Warriors give Jazz the blues, 94 – 83.

Marvin Williams – 2pts, 1reb and 1ast in 18:40 (of game time)

http://www.nba.com/games/20121226/GSWUTA/gameinfo.html?ls=iref:nbahpgt0021200420

doc

December 27th, 2012
12:11 am

najeh, i simply asked you to tell me what an 8 mil a year guy looked like as that seemd to be your beef against the guy and you gave me conley. he became “your” comparison guy. for sure, lin wont be the main guy in houston with harden next to him but it is weak to suggest that already lin who has as many 25 point games as conley and has 290 games left in which to surpass him isnt in his company.

my point and you continue to pull away from it is you seem to have something against lin and his game that goes deeper than stats. me, i like underdogs and guys with perseverance against the odds. he has proven himself whether you are going to say, “maybe on second thought the guy is more relevant and better than i thought or was wiling to give him credit for.

meanwhile, i doubt teague has had many 20/10 games in his career much less on back to backs which lin just did. not bad for a 4 yr guy from harvard, left undrafted, to make his way into the nba and perform in the big apple. he has proven his worth, if it is the likes of conley who you chose, also making in the same range with similar numbers.

ag

December 27th, 2012
12:23 am

Rev, I took my boys to their first Hawk game. They are 4 and 9. Imagine, the first game of your life, your team wins in double OT! Funny, a lot of fans starting leaving in the 4th quarter. I am very happy they won.

kuhndog

December 27th, 2012
12:28 am

Exiting game , it shouldnt have been. Josh like another said here looked like an all star the first three quarters, then got cold. I think when it is not going for josh he needs to eat some paint, and Al has lost confidence from the line he missed 2 big ones against the Celts. last year in the playoffs and I thought he would inprove this year….not… Teauge well he plays with intenisity some times and others he like at a pick up game, he looses his focus. Teauge won it for us in the 2nd overtime, the rest of the team ran out of gas.At least we are winning the ones we are supposed to win for the most part as hard as we make it on ourselves. We will see on the next part of the schedule how we hold up,I will be more optimistic after the next 15 to 20 games if we win 60 to 65% of them.

High-sider

December 27th, 2012
12:40 am

@Duh

“Jamal is like the 7th or 8th option in LA once Hill and Billups come back.” – Duh @5:12pm, 12/26/2012

So, a guy (Jamal Crawford) who’s currently the second leading scorer (16.5ppg) on a (Clippers) team that currently has best record in the NBA (22 – 6; 0.786 winning percentage) will be the 7th or 8th (scoring) option once (Grant) Hill and (Chauncey) Billups return from injury? Isn’t a team’s second leading scorer also that (particular) team’s second (scoring) option? Now, I really understand why your name/handle is “Duh.” (smh)

http://www.nba.com/clippers/stats/2012

doc

December 27th, 2012
12:44 am

high sider hard to believe marvin in his third year avg 15/6 for the year. he was probably only 21 yrs of age. at the time i figured he was going to continue to improve. he instead peaked.

meanwhile jj paying forward was -13 with 13 its on 15 shots with 3 rebounds assigned t the sf position.

i think it is going to get guy in brooklyn before the year is done. d will may owe sloan a bit of his present paycheck.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 27th, 2012
1:01 am

“my point and you continue to pull away from it is you seem to have something against lin and his game that goes deeper than stats.”

Based on what? I could turn that around and say you seem to be biased towards him because he is undrafted, from Harvard, underdog story, etc. I haven’t said anything negative about him other than that he has to prove himself, which is true for any inexperienced player.

Rusty

December 27th, 2012
1:29 am

Every time that idiot LD took JT out & let LW play pg we couldn’t score.i swear LDwould rather lose a game than let JT succeed.playing LW at pg for almost the complete 4th qt was really stupid even for LD .we can get away with LD ’s poor coaching against bad teams but not against good teams. That Keith is so stupid it’s hard to read anything he says.

High-sider

December 27th, 2012
1:35 am

doc,

I think you might be right about it “getting ugly” in Brooklyn. I don’t think Joe will be able to adapt like Jamal. Jamal is/was used to “bouncing around” the Association but it has been a while since Joe has switched teams. (Joe came to ATL from PHO in 2005, if I’m not mistaken.) It may take Joe a little more time to adjust to his new surroundings (and that may be too long for him, Coach Avery Johnson and the Nets in “win now” league).

Owner (Mikhail) Prokhorov of the Nets is supposedly a “sharp, finance guy” who should know (a little something) about “Caveat emptor” and/or “Buyer’s remorse.” Oh well, I guess we all get “duped” from time to time even the most intelligent. I know one thing; he (Prokhorov) better “get it together” quickly because that (Brooklyn Nets’) team payroll is a “monster” – currently (about) $25.5mil, over the (salary) cap (ouch).

http://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/BRK.html

Rusty

December 27th, 2012
1:45 am

LD is at fault with jpJT inconsistency,he takes JT out when the hawks are playing good.JT is the teams strength ,the offense flows when he is at pg & falls apart when LW & DH is playing pg. Stupid LD has to shorten his rotations & sub a hell of a lot better if we are going to beat the good teams.

High-sider

December 27th, 2012
1:46 am

^Correction: “So, a guy (Jamal Crawford) who’s currently the second leading scorer (16.5ppg) on a (Clippers) team that currently has [the] best record in the NBA (22 – 6; 0.786 winning percentage)…”

falCans

December 27th, 2012
2:35 am

Josh playing on the perimeter is not his fault…Coach is in a precarious situation…Josh is such a good facilitator and his jumper ha to at least be respected now so im sure its hard to just post him on the block on offense but errrr ummmm….stevie can see that when Smoove is fed down low he cant be stopped

Duh

December 27th, 2012
2:46 am

High-sider,

Yes and was not just referring to scoring when I made that statement. Or do you not know who Chauncey Billups is? Do you need to check his resume? Check his career 3pt makes. He drops 16 points in his sleep. He is LA’s starting SG when he returns. Hill and Billups both play better D than Jamal and they aren’t chuckers. I did not say that to demean Crawford (I love him and what he did for ATL), but If you are going to win a title with Jamal on your roster it aint gonna happen if he’s your 1st, 2nd, or 3rd option (in the pecking order). His place is appropriate (for them to make real noise/be succesful) on that team.

Duh

December 27th, 2012
2:51 am

“Jamal is like the 7th or 8th option in LA once Hill and Billups come back.”

Not necessarily “option” but more like rainking-as far as importance is concerned. Obviously Griffin, Jordan, and CP3 are your foundational pieces. Then it would be Chauncey, Caron, Hill…..THEN Jamal……Bledsoe etc.

Duh

December 27th, 2012
2:55 am

High-Sider,

FTPB,

Last year’s loss had more to do with the health of our big men than it had to do with Jamal Crawford…..and the fact that we GAVE AWAY game two of that series’. Lets be real……

northcyde

December 27th, 2012
3:05 am

Oh wow . . .

Just watched this game on Synergy. This blog would look like a wildfire had we lost that game tonight.

And as well as Josh played for almost 3 quarters, he completely melted down from the 4th quarter on. 8 consecutive misses. 3 air balls. 4 critical misses at the FT line toward the end of regulation.

He was arguably having the best game of his career before he went ice cold.

northcyde

December 27th, 2012
3:13 am

falCans

December 27th, 2012
2:35 am

Josh playing on the perimeter is not his fault…Coach is in a precarious situation…Josh is such a good facilitator and his jumper ha to at least be respected now so im sure its hard to just post him on the block on offense but errrr ummmm….stevie can see that when Smoove is fed down low he cant be stopped

***********

falCans, this lie about Josh needs to stop

No other big man on this team drifts to the outside more than Josh. Josh does this on purpose, so he can receive the ball when a guard gets doubled.

Duh

December 27th, 2012
3:14 am

For the record, With the game on the line, I would rather have the ball in Chauncey Billlups hands over Jamal ANY DAY OF THE WEEK…..i’m also willing to bet that the bulk of Jamal’s damage (scoring) gets done again the opponents second unit. Being so low in LA’s pecking order is benefiting Jamal like never before in his career. When you can be on the court with CP3, Caron Butler, Deandre Jordan, and Blake Griffin, stopping Jamal in not even close to being the opposing teams’ top priority.

That may change in the last FEW minutes of a close game, but certainly not throughout the curse of an entire game. Still in crunch time Jamal is valuable but his defensive disability hurts the team; BUT they have decent post player to cover for him. Still as a two-way player it’s Chauncey all day.