Atlanta Hawks: Smith hosts children for holiday

Vivlamore reporting.

Josh Smith hosted 20 children from City of Refuge, a non-profit organization, Sunday for an afternoon of fun, food and gifts at Dave and Buster’s. The event was a surprise to the children who were picked up and taken to the restaurant to spend time with the Hawks forward.

According to the organization, City of Refuge is an organization “dedicated to community development efforts that lead to the stability and sustainability of the local community. Our community zip code is 30314. It is a community in crisis but also a community with hope and resilience. Despite overwhelming social challenges, numbers and need, City of Refuge finds hope everyday in this neighborhood. That is not only because we remain committed to our neighbors, but they are committed to us, offering themselves as both models of transformation and returning here to help others in need once their lives are restored to paths of health and independence.”

In other orders of business:

* I’m taking a few days off to spend with my family for the holiday. I will be back on Wednesday for the team’s shoot-around before  the  home game against the Pistons.

* After two weeks of reporting, interviews and writing, my story why Smith has never been an All-Star is ready. I will post it tomorrow and it is scheduled to appear in the print edition of the AJC on Wednesday.

* I will I wish you and yours much happiness and health this holiday season!

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December 24th, 2012
7:53 am


December 24th, 2012
7:54 am


December 24th, 2012
7:57 am

Happy Holidays!


December 24th, 2012
8:14 am

Merry Christmas to everyone….and may you be Blessed by the most high God…………………………………

Buddy Grizzard

December 24th, 2012
8:28 am

“Last night’s win changes nothing.”

If you think about it, the night before the Bulls expended a lot of energy against the Knicks while the Hawks seemed to save their energy against the 76ers. The Hawks caught the Bulls on an off night and I’d be real nervous about playing that team when they’re rested.

“My idea several weeks ago, Anthony Morrow for Derrick Williams, is gaining some traction! Now, ESPN has it as a trade scenario (except they have also added John Jenkins). You guys should really listen to me more…”

Samurai Squirrel you have my attention! I previously proposed a three way swap with Devin Harris going to the Lakers and Derrick Williams coming to tha A. Anything that gets Derrick Williams here where he will flourish, make it so No. 1!

Buddy Grizzard

December 24th, 2012
8:36 am


December 23rd, 2012
8:30 pm

Literally the worst trade proposal I have ever seen… we get STAT and Gasol, two contracts NOBODY wants? Because Danny Ferry totally got ride of Joe Johnson to make room for worse contracts.

steve brown

December 24th, 2012
8:45 am

did he brick or air ball any of the gifts-just kidding-happy holiday’s to all.


December 24th, 2012
9:21 am

Nice article. We should all be proud of Josh. Came to team as an immature 18 yr old sudden millionaire but has always stayed clear of trouble of the court and as seen here gives back. Works to get his game better and seems to want to win more than anything I hope he stays a Hawk.


December 24th, 2012
9:49 am

Great Job Josh and Great Job CV. Merry Xmas and a Prosperous New Year to all on this blog…


December 24th, 2012
10:06 am

I think under Ferry’s leadership, the Hawks PR department has improved. Good job.


Doc, I saw that special with Calvin Johnson. As a GT fan, I have always been a big fan of his, and despite his talent, he has never acted like a diva (or complained when he had “throw the ball away on 4th down Reggie Ball” throwing to him).

I just hope his career doesn’t end up like Barry sanders. One of the best to ever do it in the regular season, with little post season success.


December 24th, 2012
10:25 am

Marvin Williams is playing abysmal in Utah. When this ‘tract ends he may be out of the League, or a vet min. Type guy.

Or he may Koncak it next season and get somebody to buy fools gold. Maybe he’d thrive under Pops.


December 24th, 2012
10:33 am

Trade Korver for Derrick Williams and Stevenson for Aminu. Got 4 picks this season to sweeten deals.

Leave Morrow to help get Dwight here. And leave Harris to back up Teague – we need a backup PG not named Lou Williams.

And sign a C so you can start ZaZa. I really think that’s our best lineup, when starts.

Also, the Sixers are starting Lavoy Allen at C. I’m not sure why Ivan couldn’t see more minutes at C as well. He’s bigger than Chucky Hayes, weighs more than Hickson, about the same height as him. Just a thought.


December 24th, 2012
10:50 am

J.Smith, Harris, Zaza, Morrow for Gasol, Amare = no brainer?

1.10 expiring k players won’t be resigned = $48M
2. Hawks biggest weakness: low post scoring…
3. Smoove decision looming in Feb 2012…
4. Gasol/Stoudamire costly, but payroll avg. out…
5. Gasol/Stoudamire high order talent upgrade…

6. Take raises for Smoove, ZaZa, Teague into account…
7. Hawks set to pay more for same product…
8. Deal guarantees revenue upgrade…tickets,TV, etc.
9. Gasol/Stoudamire/Horford best frontcourt in NBA…
10. Surrounded by shooters: Lou, Jenkins, Korver – oh my!

11. Age, injury concerns mitigated by draft picks…
12. Gasol 32, Amare 30, but injury prone – no risk, no reward…
13. That’s why we keep Horford…
14. If NYK want to give away Top Ten Talent – you take it!
15. Risk mitigated by size, both play on block, not speed based…

Lou Williams
John Jenkins
Amare Stoudamire
Al Horford
Pau Gasol
Kyle Korver
Ivan Johnson
Mike Scott
Jodie Meeks
Draft Pick #1
Draft Pick #2


December 24th, 2012
11:56 am


You want the Hawks to trade arguably their best 3-pt shooter, and a guy who moves well without the ball, for a guy who is probably a tweener at F?

The only way I trade for Derrick is 1) if he can play a decent SF and 2) Minny takes Morrow for him.


December 24th, 2012
11:57 am


Case in point. Calvn Johnson has been in the league 6 years. The Lions record those years?

7-9, 0-16, 2-14, 6-10, 10-6 and 4-11.


December 24th, 2012
12:04 pm


U do realize Gasol makes $19 mil next year, right? And as for A’mare, this was from the NY Times over the summer.

This past summer, the Knicks offered Stoudemire to nearly every team in the league — “available for free,” as one rival executive put it. But they found no takers because of his diminished production, his health and his contract, which has three years and $65 million remaining (counting this season) and which is uninsured against a career-ending knee injury..

Stay away from Amare and Gasol.


December 24th, 2012
12:07 pm

Steve W,

Also, like I told Najeh. If Josh Smith cannot convince Dwight to come here, then I dont think Morrow will make a difference. Plus isnt John Jenkins supposed to develop into our own version of Morrow?

Rod from College Park

December 24th, 2012
12:19 pm

“Marvin Williams is playing abysmal in Utah. When this ‘tract ends he may be out of the League, or a vet min. Type guy.”

Hate to brag, but I told you so. He will be out of the league after his contract is up, if not before. He never was starter material in the NBA, and if his shot is not falling he is not even a good backup. The Hawks organization saved him.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

December 24th, 2012
12:27 pm

Marvin has not been abysmal. He has put up some numbers. He had double figure rebounds the other night. He is still just Marvin though.

Marvin will not be out of the league after his contract is up. Have you seen Josh Childress? He is WORSE than Marvin and is somehow still in the league


December 24th, 2012
12:35 pm

Top Ten Players cost money…

$19M + $19M = $38M, Hawks have $48M in exp. k…

Like Falcons, time for Hawks to make run at chip…
Abraham, Asante, Turner, Julio expensive risks but…
Scared money don’t win…talent doe…

We’ve played it safe…it’s time to roll the dice…
Horford, Lou, Gasol are constants no risk there…

Question is Amare? Health is a major factor…
How do you mitigate risks on $19M/5 yrs.?
Future draft picks…NYK take MWP….

Ask yourself?
If Boston, Miami, LAL had flexibility would they do it?
Of course they would, thats why they have chips…
They get the best players available all the time!

Look you’re not getting an NBA chip on the cheap…
MLB, maybe, Florida; NFL, Green Bay…but…
Those are the epitome of team sports…40-50 players…

This is no admonition of Smoove either…
Smoove wants his money, he’s been here 7 years…
He can get his money and a chip in LA…simple!

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

December 24th, 2012
12:41 pm

Morrow for Derrick Williams? Sign me up.

This team needs more offense in my opinion. Morrow could be that guy, but Derrick Williams would be an upgrade. It is painful to watch this offense play at times.

Happy Holidays everyone. I’m out.


December 24th, 2012
12:45 pm

Forgot, we get Iman Shumpert too!


December 24th, 2012
12:54 pm

tyger – that is really THE WORST trade idea I’ve ever seen….seriously…even for this blog, come on man…why don’t we get Boozer, Turkoglu, and Tyrus Thomas while we’re at it.


December 24th, 2012
1:41 pm

True Professional!

C-Viv is an awesome Beat Writer. The man is a Beastie Boy!!! [lol]
I’m so looking forward to The Josh Smith All-Star Snub Article next.


December 24th, 2012
1:55 pm

rod get real

you love to tell us just that :-)

you remind us at every opportunity

happy holiday to you and all of my friends that come to support this site and the hawks

19-10 at new year start? 18-11? dare to think 20-9

Rod from College Park

December 24th, 2012
2:10 pm

“Marvin will not be out of the league after his contract is up. Have you seen Josh Childress? He is WORSE than Marvin and is somehow still in the league”

Childress is playing fro the league minimum this year, and had to make the team to get paid. I don’t see Marvin wanting to play for the league minimum. Guy does not even love the game. He seem very smart, and hopefully has saved his money. He does not even seem to enjoy the game. After this contract, I think he will disappear.

“you remind us at every opportunity”

I will continue to remind you about it, just like I did about Jamal, just like I will remind you about the Woodson, Drew relationship. Get used to it. I’m sure I will be correct on another issue soon.


December 24th, 2012
2:21 pm

For Entertainment Puposes Only!

1. Doc Rivers seems to shoot down Fab Melo as potential big man addition: “I haven’t talked to anyone that thinks he’s ready to come up yet.”


3. Is Brooklyn Nets coach Avery Johnson on the hot seat? CineSport’s Noah Coslov and’s Chris Sheridan discuss.

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4.How impressive was the Falcons’ 34-0 win over the Giants? Who is the best matchup for Atlanta in the playoffs? CineSport’s Brian Clark asks The Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s Mark Bradley.

Falcons Frustrate NFL’s Top Quarterbacks [video]

Peyton Manning
Eli Manning
Drew Brees


December 24th, 2012
2:26 pm

One More Knucklehead!

Ex-NFL Joey Porter Arrested for Writing Bad Checks From Account With No Money In It – Joey Porter spent a lot of years playing in the NFL, but according to the Bakersfield Californian he is either broke or doesn’t know how…


December 24th, 2012
2:28 pm

OB – Trading KK for Derrick Williams, if as you said DW can play the 3, is a no brainier to me. KK is getting old, injury prone, slow defensively. Gotta take a chance somewhere to upgrade and even out the roster.


December 24th, 2012
2:30 pm

Marvin at 3.6 rebounds per game? Abysmal.

Rod from College Park

December 24th, 2012
2:33 pm

“Marvin at 3.6 rebounds per game? Abysmal.”

Yes especially for a guy his size with a 7′2 wingspan. LOL


December 24th, 2012
2:52 pm

They used to say he only (could) “put up” good numbers (stats) on bad (NBA) teams. Now he’s “putting up” good numbers on the (current) best team (in the NBA). To the haters (in the words of Biz Markie), “catch the vapors.”

Oh yeah, btw, that “he” to whom I’m referring (to) is none other than – I’ll let you fill in the blanks – _am_l C_a_f__d.


December 24th, 2012
3:08 pm

Hawks (team) is ranked 8th in the NBA power rankings. Who said I don’t talk about the Hawks on the (AJC) Hawks blog? (LOL)


December 24th, 2012
3:33 pm


I don’t think Marvin will be out of the league when his contract is up. Instead, he will be a vet min salary guy.

And if you’re Utah, you have to pay him one more year. Ouch. At least Devin Harris expires at the end of this season. I think Ferry should win offseason GM of the year.


December 24th, 2012
3:43 pm

So, you say that:

Smith/Horford/Pachulia better than Amare/Horford/Gasol?

I disagree.

Ken Strickland

December 24th, 2012
4:21 pm

While we’ve found a lot to complain about so far this season, we have to put things into perspective. Any team that trades away 2 starters, one being a 6 time Allstar and team leading scorer, and brings in 8 new faces is definitely in rebuilding mode.

And despite all of that, we’ve managed to remain an Eastern Conference playoff factor. HC LDrew has done a good job of coaching this team so far, but he’s had chances to do a much better job and chose not to do so.

Ferry’s silence on how well the team has done so far could be an indication of his dissatisfion with how Drew has handled certain situations. Him keeping his job will be predicated on how well the team progresses and advances in the playoffs.


December 24th, 2012
4:39 pm


Put down the egg nog….
Ferry hasnt said anything b/c there’s nothing to say…
but great job LD!…

Amazing how people read into silence such negativity…
This team is little more than a collosal salary dump…10 exp. k’s…
If anything, Ferry’s saying how in the heck is he doing this?

LD could win with 4 rocks and a stick of gum…


December 24th, 2012
4:49 pm

For the most part, I think LD has done fine. Before the season started, I really wanted a starting lineup of Teague and Williams. It paid off. The trade for the other Williams will be real good also.

Rick James

December 24th, 2012
5:43 pm


Marvin Williams is playing abysmal in Utah. When this ‘tract ends he may be out of the League, or a vet min. Type guy.
Marvin should have been playing in Greece when he was coming off the bench in Atlanta.What was Billy Knight thinking? What were the Hawks thinking when they gave him an extention?


December 24th, 2012
5:51 pm

ok rod, i have often given you cred early on when i flipped to expecting no more out of marvin than what he was as a 21 yr old and he declined a bit from his back injury. i was critical that he never seemed to want to up his game. there are reasons the league passed him by and he was a terrible pick in a terrible year. deron as good as he was, it may have been the offense and direction he got from sloan that made him a mega mil guy, as well. chris paul is the guy who has stood the test of time from that early group of picks as the real deal. with woody deron may have not made it far off the bench.

now let us again set the record straight on my views on the other two subjects. you can research it all you want and you will find that i never said i wanted woody gone, never. nor mumbled a negative word on jamal.

i am a pragmatist though and the hand writing was on the wall when they dropped another sweep for woody. if woody didnt get it after complaining all year without any response form basg. it was sad to see him always making a case for himself to get another contract. maybe even with a raise? he was delusional and wasnt reading the tea leaves and expectations. i imagine there are many in management now that only smile and stifle their laughter as woody continues to make it ld’s fault and not his own for not getting the job done. sorry it is what it is. i also think it is gamesmanship on woody’s part to get any edge he can over ld, the hawks and with his own players. good for him just see it as it might be in the bigger context of things rod.

they were not going to pay woody because he was a good guy and had done well in the regular season much less give him a raise which i imagine the proud man he is would have desired and maybe even requested through his agent. it is all hearsay agreed but so is it that ld went behind his back but it makes his ego feel better.

me, i dont care and think woody is self righteous at this point. woody in essence did the same thing right in front of the world for throwing relationship and loyalty out the window to his old agent to get his contract. he left his long time agent at the probable request of dolan to use an garden employee where dolan would get some kind of a kick back on the contract. ti is also what melo did when he came to the knicks for his big contract. not hear say rod. yeah woody denies it with a soft, “well i was going to do it anyway” when asked. right! got land to sell woody to? could have been done a lot earlier when he was early looking for a job instead of right before he signs the contract. insert chuckle.

i like woody and wish him well. he got the contract he would never have gotten from the hawks. do you really thing the asg was going to pay woody a raise on the 4 mil he was making, rod? i dont.

as far as jamal you havent told me anything about him. i liked him from the first time i heard of the trade, to come here. i think astro will attest a wait and see aj was written more than once. i even offered to let jj go and sign jamal and use the money more wisely. i dont run the hawks and they dont read my opinions.

someone did though. i tagged jamal “flip on roids” after the first or second game i saw that season as a season ticket holder. i cheered wildly for the guy through his whole time here and gave him a standing o when he came back to play here. oh, btw, people do read and garb your work here. my “flip on roids” comment? i heard it within 24 hours on 790 fan afternoon drive show by the famous pretty boy uga former star. it was the most creative thing he ever said and it had to have been by scoping the blog. that was not by chance, by a long shot.

again pragmatism in the world of nba economics was not going to get jamal the contract he wanted. he was in the same boat as woody, playing on a one year contract, a bit inflated for the real world post 2008 crash and the new cba. you are smart guy, so, i think you know it. maybe dont want to admit it because you may not be up to it. so be it. i can give you cred, you continue to misread or misinterpret what i write as more significant as to why these guys are no longer here and i have moved on on those two guys.

so, i liked both of your infatuations and/or darlings. i came to the same conclusion on marvin as you did and spoke of it and gave you cred for it. what is your beef? you cant see it is woody’s ego on this one or his self righteousness as well or even a good bit of gamesmanship? or that jamal too was not affordable, as was woody, for what the had brought to the table? unfortunately, jamal crested the year before his contract year and kind of fell apart instead of making his point better by having an even better year.and was off his game his second year here, certainly not the player he is today. i also say he might have gotten piggish and never lived up to what he could be since he never practiced until this off season, realizing he was getting close to the end.

so rod, are you stand up enough of a guy to finally tell me you have read and comprehended what i wrote and understand my agenda is not to say woody and jamal are not worthy people in the nba just in bad circumstances we all find ourselves in from time to time. all it is rod, all it is.

bottom line, only superstars get what they want or write their own card. woody and jamal are neither that. i say, get over it, i did.


December 24th, 2012
5:51 pm

again merry christmas to all.


December 24th, 2012
5:54 pm

Tyger =Keith = Steven A Smith


December 24th, 2012
6:16 pm

Nobody wants Pau Gasol or his contract. Soft as cotton candy and someone you have to motivate to play plus he’s old and doesn’t fit our style of play.

Why would the Hawks trade JSmoove for Amare Stoudemire? Has he ever played a full season without being injured?? Plus JSmoove is a better player regardless.

Stop with the nonsense.

Ken Strickland

December 24th, 2012
6:28 pm

TYGER-If there’s nothing to say but “GREAT JOB LD”, then why hasn’t he said it? You think it’s amazing how people read into silence something negative. Well, it’s just as amazing how people read into silence something positive.

Common sense tells me if Ferry’s reaction is so positive, as you seem to think, he’d at least make an effort to make a positive statement rather than remain silent. Remember the old saying, “IF YOU DON’T HAVE ANYTHING POSITIVE TO SAY, SAY NOTHING.” I believe that pretty much sums up Ferry’s position.


December 24th, 2012
6:29 pm

Uh oh Rod, you’ve inspired doc to with a book… LOL!

The title will be called: “I don’t care what you say, love the one your with”


December 24th, 2012
6:30 pm

Danny you have got to get this guy!!!
He is one of your missing links!

Najeh Davenpoop

December 24th, 2012
6:33 pm


“folks have trashed lin on this site many times. it borders on stupidity when one considers he was undrafted. compare the two. teague a first round pick, lin undrafted, same age and right now you can throw a blanket over them on stats.”

The one huge difference, though, is that Lin has signed a new contract now. Draft position shouldn’t matter as much at that point. Yeah, he was undrafted, but the market set his value at over $8 million per year. Is he playing as well as other $8 million/year point guard (say, Mike Conley)? Right now, no. I think criticism of him is fair for that reason, much like how criticism of Marvin the last few years was fair more because of his contract than his draft position.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 24th, 2012
6:35 pm

“J.Smith, Harris, Zaza, Morrow for Gasol, Amare = no brainer?”

In that only a person with no brains would even consider that trade, yes.


December 24th, 2012
8:03 pm

In 2012 Olympics, Gasol dominated…
Any D.Howard/JSmoove reunion in ATL is a dream…
Pau/Amare are two of best low post players in game…

Frontcourt of Amare/Gasol/Horford is sheer genius…
Amare has only missed 1 full season in his career…

Factoid: His playoff stats better than regular season stats…
i.e. he gets better as the competition stiffens…

You guys were the same one’s yelling “Fire Woody”…
Look at Woody now!!! You are the same one’s dissing LD…
Look at LD now!!!…You guys voted for Mitt Romney…
Look at you now!!!


December 24th, 2012
8:05 pm

{write} ^^^^^^