Game thread: Harris not with Hawks in Philadelphia
Vivlamore reporting.
PHILADELPHIA — The Hawks will be without guard Devin Harris for tonight’s game against the 76ers and likely tomorrow’s home game against the Bulls with a sore left foot. Harris did not travel with the team to Philadelphia.
The injury is unrelated to the turf toe that caused Harris to miss a game earlier this season.
An MRI showed no structural damage. Harris is wearing a walking boot as a precaution. Following Saturday’s game, the Hawks are off three days before hosting the Pistons which will allow Harris extended rest for his foot.
Officially, Harris is listed as day-to-day.
Guard Anthony Morrow said the sore back that caused him to miss two games is fine and he expects to play.
In other items:
* The Sixers are dealing with injury issues of their own. Leading scorer Jrue Holiday has missed the past four games with a sprained left foot. Second-leading scorer Evan Turner is suffering from a sprained left ankle. Both players told the Philadelphia media Friday they expect to play. The team calls each a game-time decision.
The Sixers are also awaiting word on center Andrew Bynum. He has not played this season due to knee bone bruises. Bynum was examined by David Altchek in New York Thursday and the team is expected to announce the results prior to tonight’s game.
* Due to the uncertainty of the Sixers roster, Hawks coach Larry Drew said he will wait to determine his starting lineup.
“In these situations we factor (injured opponents) in,” Drew said. “We look at the worst-case scenario that all their guys are there. If certain guys don’t go, we’ll start this lineup. If certain guys don’t go, we’ll start that lineup. We cover our bases.”
Drew said the Sixers’ injuries will not affect how his team plays offensively. He said they could make some defensive adjustments.
* I asked Drew about the team’s recent performance as they have lost two of three past games. They were blown out by the Warriors, narrowly defeated the Wizards and trailed by 17 points before falling to the Thunder.
“I think we’ve been a little inconsistent with some of the things that we did pretty good the first 10 games of the season,” Drew said. “That is expected. You are going to go through those pockets where you are going to have those struggles. You have to work your way through it.
“I would love for us to be efficient every game we play, but that is not going to be the case. Given the schedule, with this stretch of four (games) in five nights, so of that is to be expected. It’s just a matter of working through it. Go back (to the past three games) there were stretches where we did not play very well. We want to focus on what we did wrong in those stretches. What we don’t want is to panic at this point. There are too many more games to play.”
* Anthony Tolliver says he has been frustrated by his recent lack of playing time. The forward did not play in seven straight games in November and December. He has appeared in six of the past seven games, averaging 7.6 minutes. He scored six points in the loss to the Thunder Wednesday.
“Something I pride myself on is coming in and playing defense and doing the little things to help my team win,” Tolliver said. “The stat sheet might not be filled at the end of the night for me but I definitely feel like whenever I’m on the court we are a better team. …
“It is very, very difficult on the offense end (not playing). I’ve been struggling shooting the ball but I try not to think about it. I don’t go into each game thinking I’m struggling. I go in thinking it’s a new game, a fresh start.
“Everybody, the coaches and my agent, told me to stay ready. It was pretty frustrating. I’m still not satisfied playing just a little bit. I definitely feel like I want to compete for more time. But I’ve got to earn it.”
- Chris Vivlamore
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High-sider
December 21st, 2012
3:02 pm
1st?
High-sider
December 21st, 2012
3:02 pm
First?
High-sider
December 21st, 2012
3:02 pm
2nd?
High-sider
December 21st, 2012
3:03 pm
3rd?
MsDee
December 21st, 2012
3:18 pm
Out of all what Tolliver said, this is the only thing that made any sense to me, “But I’ve got to earn it.”
MsDee
December 21st, 2012
3:18 pm
2nd, High-sider
newkid
December 21st, 2012
3:22 pm
While effective when healthy, this kid sure does seem to have his share of injury issues, doesn’t he?
High-sider
December 21st, 2012
3:26 pm
@Najeh Davenpoop (Repost FTPB and just in case you missed it)
High-sider
December 21st, 2012
10:08 am
Najeh Davenpoop,
According to basketball-reference.com, the NBA career average “Minutes Played per Game” (mpg) statistics for the players listed below are as follows (in no particular order):
LeBron James – 39.8mpg
Kobe Bryant – 36.5mpg
Dwyane Wade – 37.0mpg
Dirk Nowitzki – 36.3mpg
Joe Johnson – 36.7mpg
Dwight Howard – 36.2mpg
Carmelo Anthony – 36.2mpg
I will concede that “Per 36 Minutes” statistics are (or become) “actual”/real statistics for those players who have NBA career “Minutes Played per Game” (mpg) averages of 36.0+(mpg). Those players who have career “Minutes Played per Game” (mpg) averages of 36.0+(mpg) have “produced”/”put up”/played/logged the actual/real mpg to substantiate or validate their “Per 36 Minutes” statistics.
Conversely, “Per 36 Minutes” statistics for those players who have NBA career “Minutes Played per Game” (mpg) averages (significantly) less than 36.0+(mpg) are or become projected, theoretical or assumptive statistics. (The calculation of) “Per 36 Minutes” statistics for those players who have career “Minutes Played per Game” averages (substantially) less than 36.0+mpg may demonstrate a trend or pattern but do NOT demonstrate the “actual” or real.
W.R. Terrell
December 21st, 2012
3:35 pm
Are the HAWKS looking for a win tonight? Philly is a team the HAWKS can beat if the “Smoove”, rebounds, plays defense, take the majority of his shots no farther then 3 feet from the basket and bang for put backs, also, he needs to realize he is not the point guard. Al has to bang for his bucks, rebound and play defense and everyone has to hit the boards. If the HAWKS go the other route with the “Smoove” in his SUPERSTAR mode then the game is lost in an embarrassing manner. LD needs to start playing the young folks Jenkins and Scott and IVAN NEEDS PLAYING TIME. This will be an interesting game to watch, it could tell a lot about where the HAWKS are headed.
High-sider
December 21st, 2012
3:41 pm
This Sixers (squad) is coming off a “beatdown” from the Rockets in Houston (TX). The Rockets “86ed” (the) 76ers, 125 -103, this past Wednesday (12/19/2012).
Hawks, start a new winning streak tonight in Philly, make Lou Williams (the) “Player of the Game,” and “86″ (eighty-six) the 76ers.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/86ed
High-sider
December 21st, 2012
3:45 pm
Okey-dokey, Ms. Dee, you’re 2nd.
Just Joe
December 21st, 2012
3:53 pm
If I’m not mistaken, I believe Thad Young used to abuse Marvin Williams in these matchups. I’d like to see Josh or Ivan matched up with him when at all possible. ZaZa on Lavoy Allen. Horford on Spencer Hawes. The front court matches up pretty well for us.
Holliday, N. Young, Richardson & Turner will be the challenge for Teague, LouWill, Korver & Stevenson.
Jody
December 21st, 2012
4:05 pm
@ Just Joe
Agreed.
Astro Joe
December 21st, 2012
4:15 pm
Thad Young doesn’t seem like the kind of player who “abuses”. Unless scoring 20 points is considered abuse. He is having a very good year, with a goodly number of rebounds and blocks and a high FG%.
Section 303
December 21st, 2012
4:18 pm
With this team, I try to stay away from saying player X should play more. That means that someone else would have to be sitting, instead of playing. And, it’s hard to say who should be on the bench so player X can play. That being said, I do think Tolliver should be getting some time. He is a good player. I started to like him last season when he played in Minny. He does a lot of things well, like play D and hustle. 7-8 minutes a game, at least.
Section 303
December 21st, 2012
4:20 pm
I don’t have a good feeling about tonight. Despite the 76′ers having injury issues, the Hawks always struggle with this team. It seems to be a bad matchup. Philly owned us last season. Plus, the Hawks are in the mists of 4 games in 5 nights. Don’t like it.
Section 303
December 21st, 2012
4:22 pm
By the way, happy holidays to everone on here. Safe travels, too, if you’re hitting the road. I will be heading up to Downers Grove, IL (my wife’s hometown) and then over to New Era, MI (my hometown. Anyone ever hear of it?). Missing the next 3 games at Philips, which sucks.
Buddy Grizzard
December 21st, 2012
4:31 pm
Anthony Tolliver is back in the rotation!
Ken Strickland
December 21st, 2012
4:35 pm
JUST JOE-(From the last blog)I just can’t remember who started at SF in the Thunder gm. I was going off the fact that Korver was the one Drew chose as his starting SF when the season began.
I just don’t feel Drew’s habit of always trying to matchup to other teams starting lineup is a good idea. Before each gm we hear him say he hasn’t decided who will start because he doesn’t know who the oppostion will start.
It didn’t matter one bit who we started against Durant, because offensively no one is going to stop him from shooting or scoring. However, you can at least make him work hard on DEF, which neither Stevenson or Morrow are capable of doing.
Now Korver, on the other hand, could have made him work his butt off fighting over screens. After running Durant off several screens, Korver would have consistently been wide open to take those deadly 3pt shots. He would have also caused Durant to be out of position, and maybe prevented him from getting a few of those 13 rebounds as well.
Four of the Thunders starting 5 players were taller than Morrow or Stevenson. And although they both are taller than Westbrook, his speed, quickness and athleticism allows him to play much bigger than either. Drew should have started JJenkins at SG and KKorver at SF.
Since Drew has finally decided he needs to give Jenkins some mins, and with harris out, tonight’s gm would be a good opportunity to give him a start. His shooting ability would certainly create more lanes for Teague to penetrate.
With Teague, Korver and Jenkins on the floor, there won’t be a lot of double teams or collapsing DEFs on Josh or Horford.
Buddy Grizzard
December 21st, 2012
5:12 pm
Two monumental coaching mismatches in two nights.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
5:36 pm
“Anthony Tolliver says he has been frustrated by his recent lack of playing time. ”
Seriously?
He played well against the Thunder, I’ll give him that. But dude, you are at best the 5th best big man on this team. You are at best the 4th best SF on this team. There are not a lot of minutes for below average players in the NBA. If you wanted to play maybe you should have signed with a lottery team.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
5:39 pm
“Conversely, “Per 36 Minutes” statistics for those players who have NBA career “Minutes Played per Game” (mpg) averages (significantly) less than 36.0+(mpg) are or become projected, theoretical or assumptive statistics. (The calculation of) “Per 36 Minutes” statistics for those players who have career “Minutes Played per Game” averages (substantially) less than 36.0+mpg may demonstrate a trend or pattern but do NOT demonstrate the “actual” or real.”
You still continue to completely miss the point of what I was talking about. Per-36 stats are just per-minute stats multiplied by 36. The only reason they post per-36 stats instead of per-minute stats is because per-36 stats are easier to understand. It’s easier to look at a player’s stats, see that he average 6 free throw attempts per 36 minutes, and say he gets to the free throw line at a decent rate. It’s a lot harder to look at a guy’s per minute stats, see that he gets to the free throw line 0.166666666666 times per minute, and come away with the same conclusion, because we are not used to seeing stats represented in that way.
My point was NEVER that Lou would get to the line 6 times if he played 36 minutes. My point was that per minute, he gets to the line more than Jamal. There is nothing “assumptive” or “theoretical” about that statement.
Chris Vivlamore
December 21st, 2012
5:58 pm
For those interested, Sixers say following doctor visit that Andrew Bynum’s knees are healing and showing improvement. He has been approved to return to activity. There is no timetable for his return.
Luke Cage
December 21st, 2012
6:08 pm
SWEET CHRISTMAS!!!
keith
December 21st, 2012
6:22 pm
We will miss Devin Harris. He, along with Kyle Korver, have been the glue that has held this team together!!!! We can not truly “QUANTIFY” the value of Devin and Kyle to the success of this team. Without Devin Harris, we are a .500 ball club.
Luke Cage
December 21st, 2012
6:39 pm
Should be a good match up with both back courts tonight, want Teague to start taking it to other PG’s instead of mostly vice versa, hopefully both Al & Josh get involved early & often.
MattP
December 21st, 2012
7:08 pm
Did someone really say Harris held this team together?…. Oh, never mind it is just keith.
HawkFan
December 21st, 2012
7:09 pm
Teague has to start playing some defense. Way too many poor efforts on D this year. In a way worse than Bibby because at least with Bibby coaches knew he couldn’t do it and schemed for it. Teague looks like he can defend but ole and there he goes again.
keith
December 21st, 2012
7:11 pm
Andrew Bynum…what an idiot…How can you get injured “Bowling”?
keith
December 21st, 2012
7:12 pm
Jrue Holliday is going to school Jeff Teague tonight..Weak shot by Josh..
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
7:14 pm
Good D by Teague on that possession but it didn’t matter.
Luke Cage
December 21st, 2012
7:15 pm
Holiday taking it to Teague, thats what I want Jeff to start doing.
keith
December 21st, 2012
7:15 pm
Stupid Pass……………..Stupid is as stupid does???
MattP
December 21st, 2012
7:16 pm
Smith is jumper happy again, but nothing new.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
7:17 pm
Seems like they do this in every game against the Sixers, but despite the fact that they have no shot blockers, the Hawks are not driving inside nearly enough. Run some pick and rolls, get Teague in the paint.
HawkFan
December 21st, 2012
7:18 pm
Everybody standing around
Luke Cage
December 21st, 2012
7:19 pm
Stop rushing the shot Al
keith
December 21st, 2012
7:19 pm
Josh Smith is such a clumsy player. He is too careless with the Basketball….
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
7:20 pm
Lack of cohesiveness offensively, which has been a theme of the last few games.
Melvin
December 21st, 2012
7:20 pm
The Hawks are playing sloppy
Luke Cage
December 21st, 2012
7:20 pm
Just get Lou in the game for buckets man, this is ugly thus far
J.J.M.
December 21st, 2012
7:21 pm
this team wifinish under 500…might as well just trade whoever while you can…too many flaws
Luke Cage
December 21st, 2012
7:21 pm
Outside of the 1st couple of possesesions to Josh mostly everything has been jumpshots or sloppy play
keith
December 21st, 2012
7:21 pm
Are we watching the “3 STOOGES JOIN THE HAWKS”? Josh–Jeff—AL—? Who’s going to get the pie in the face first? geeezzzzzzz!!!!!
HawkFan
December 21st, 2012
7:21 pm
Hawks really need a Thad Young type player. Too many spot up shooters on this team. Good, we’re getting Lou in.
J.J.M.
December 21st, 2012
7:22 pm
teague=not agressive josh=cant post/dribble al=too soft
keith
December 21st, 2012
7:23 pm
The Sixers look like the Harlem Globetrotters tonight and the Hawks are the Washington Generals.????
HawkFan
December 21st, 2012
7:24 pm
Louuuuuuuu!!
keith
December 21st, 2012
7:24 pm
Korver should take all the shots for this sorry bunch of shooters!!!! We miss you Devin. It’s just Kyle and Lou tonight!!!!
J.J.M.
December 21st, 2012
7:25 pm
a fade jumper though al?
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
7:27 pm
3 offensive boards for the Sixers on that last possession.
keith
December 21st, 2012
7:28 pm
Can we send Drew, Al, and Josh Smith to the D-League affiliate “Bakersfiled Jam”? 6′9′ PF launching fall away jumpshots????smdh!!!. If i were the coach, i’d yank him out of the game right now!!!!
J.J.M.
December 21st, 2012
7:29 pm
lol exactly keith
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
7:29 pm
Sixers 10 boards (4 offensive); Hawks 7 boards (2 offensive).
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
7:30 pm
Another offensive board, another 3 for the Sixers.
J.J.M.
December 21st, 2012
7:30 pm
grab the ball…
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
7:31 pm
This game is going to get out of hand before halftime the way it’s going right now.
J.J.M.
December 21st, 2012
7:31 pm
yup nique we need a point guard who can drive the ball
J.J.M.
December 21st, 2012
7:33 pm
Is al still hurt or something?
keith
December 21st, 2012
7:34 pm
Zaza Paculia should start every game! Big Dummy Drew has not figured out that the team plays better when Zaza starts and get starters minutes!!! He’s the only one who goes after loose balls and gets offensive rebounds!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
7:34 pm
Josh and Korver are 8/12 with 18 points. The rest of the team is 2/9 with 5 points. A team like the Hawks with no true #1 option needs to spread it around and get other people involved a lot better than that.
Luke Cage
December 21st, 2012
7:35 pm
Too many 1st qtr points
Melvin
December 21st, 2012
7:35 pm
keith,
is complaining about the guy who has more points than his teammates combine….SMH
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
7:37 pm
Can’t blow 3 on 2 fast break opportunities when you are getting nothing in the half court.
keith
December 21st, 2012
7:37 pm
Zaza showing scrub butt Al how to play in the post!!!!
keith
December 21st, 2012
7:38 pm
Zaza shows you how to play down low!!! Take note Al!!!
bigdave
December 21st, 2012
7:39 pm
work!!
J.J.M.
December 21st, 2012
7:39 pm
zaza>horford?
Melvin
December 21st, 2012
7:40 pm
Getting some good play for ZaZa in this 1st half
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
7:40 pm
Zaza puttin’ in work. Equalizes the rebounding differential and the Hawks get back in the game.
HawkFan
December 21st, 2012
7:40 pm
I predicted ZaZa would score 7 straight to get us back in it
keith
December 21st, 2012
7:40 pm
Can any other HAWK BIG get Zaza’s “intensity” Zaza is flat out “Ballin” tonight boys… I would sit Al and let him watch how the center position is supposed to be played!!!!!
ha ha
December 21st, 2012
7:42 pm
lmao@anybody paying keith any attention. Dude is clearly a troll. He used to go by steven a smith and come up with the dumbest trades on here. Its scroll time anytime I see keith posting on here
Admiral SnAckbar
December 21st, 2012
7:42 pm
Z SAYS- FEED ME MORE!!!!
Melvin
December 21st, 2012
7:42 pm
Nice post move by Ivan
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
7:42 pm
Damn Al, you gotta get Zaza that dime.
Luke Cage
December 21st, 2012
7:43 pm
Zsa Zsa and Al play 2 different games, Big Z plays down in the post, Al is more mid range.
J.J.M.
December 21st, 2012
7:43 pm
zaza feelin himself
keith
December 21st, 2012
7:43 pm
Zaza set up “punk booty Al perfectly and he misses a chip shot filed goal???smdh!!!!!
Melvin
December 21st, 2012
7:43 pm
Nice jumpshot from the FT line by Ivan
Smokey
December 21st, 2012
7:44 pm
big Z ripping it up
J.J.M.
December 21st, 2012
7:44 pm
come on al attempt to block the shot bro
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
7:44 pm
Al standing and watching as Thaddeus Young gets a fast break layup. Come on man. You gotta at least foul him. Even Teague would have gone up for the block.
Duluth Joe
December 21st, 2012
7:44 pm
Al you can foul him, stop that drive
Melvin
December 21st, 2012
7:45 pm
So is LD going to bench Teague for the rest of the game? As if everything is Teague fault….SMDH
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
7:48 pm
“Diollrell Wright” -Nique
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
7:49 pm
TrAP?
keith
December 21st, 2012
7:50 pm
This team can manage just fine without Josh….We need to feed Zaza in the post LARRY DREW!!!!
Melvin
December 21st, 2012
7:50 pm
Hawks need a SF badly.
HawkFan
December 21st, 2012
7:50 pm
Hawks are supposed to have all these 3 pt shooters but every team we play has more and better ones. Our problem is our best 3 shooters are too much alike and can’t play at the same time
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
7:51 pm
Guess ALLSTAR AL read’s this blog. U notice he’s not playing with the Knee braces to speed up his foot speed?
High-sider
December 21st, 2012
7:51 pm
Najeh Davenpoop,
“You still continue to completely miss the point of what I was talking about. Per-36 stats are just per-minute stats multiplied by 36. The only reason they post per-36 stats instead of per-minute stats is because per-36 stats are easier to understand” – Najeh Davenpoop @5:39pm, 12/21/2012
Yeah, and you’re “missing the point” that a player’s “per-minute” stats are derived from (or are calculated by using) that particular player’s “actual”/real stats.
I’m done. You refuse to see (and/or understand) the “obvious.”
J.J.M.
December 21st, 2012
7:51 pm
I wouldnt mind if teague and al wa traded
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
7:51 pm
Sixers doing a good job denying Korver coming off the screens, and the Hawks haven’t had a Plan B when that happens. They need to get Josh back in this game.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
7:52 pm
“Yeah, and you’re “missing the point” that a player’s “per-minute” stats are derived from (or are calculated by using) that particular player’s “actual”/real stats.”
Per-minute stats ARE “real” stats. WTF are you talking about?
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
7:52 pm
Philly has superior athletes.
They own the Hawks
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
7:53 pm
PUT IN WORK ZAZA
Melvin
December 21st, 2012
7:54 pm
ZaZa is really battling tonight….
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
7:54 pm
Hey ZaZa how bout a head or ball fake so your chit does not get mailed to Atlanta? huh?
keith
December 21st, 2012
7:54 pm
Kyle Elliot Korver….New Atlanta Hawk…MVP BABY!!!!!
HawkFan
December 21st, 2012
7:55 pm
Get that s$&) outta here Techie
keith
December 21st, 2012
7:56 pm
Horford is just “too weak” to play center in the NBA….That last possession was indicative of his short comings!!!
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
7:56 pm
Allstar Al looks a lot quicker and he’s playing on the Balls of his feet! Nice
Told ya if he took off those restricting knee braces his foot speed would double..
Melvin
December 21st, 2012
7:58 pm
Devin Harris for Corey Maggette
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
7:58 pm
That’s the 3rd contested jumper Holiday has made in Teague’s face. None of them was defended all that bad.
HawkFan
December 21st, 2012
7:58 pm
Teague is just another guys beeeatch every night
keith
December 21st, 2012
8:00 pm
Al is turning into Mark Sanchez….He is losing his confidence right before our eyes!!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
8:01 pm
OK, Zaza has played well, but posting him up is not a good offensive strategy.
keith
December 21st, 2012
8:01 pm
Paculia gettin Boards!
HawkFan
December 21st, 2012
8:01 pm
Zazaaaaaaaaaaaa!!
Melvin
December 21st, 2012
8:02 pm
Lou Williams coming home party has been a disater this 1st half
J.J.M.
December 21st, 2012
8:02 pm
make a trade wit the jazz asap
keith
December 21st, 2012
8:02 pm
Zaza is playing “GROWN MAN BASKETBALL” tonight girls!!!!
bigdave
December 21st, 2012
8:02 pm
Josh with the finesse attempts..
but looking for a foul, smh.
MattP
December 21st, 2012
8:03 pm
Drew really needs to start the big lineup every game, enough of the flipping around.
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:03 pm
Philly’s Bigs are more skilled then the Hawks Bigs.
Young looks Smooove out there with that left hand jumper.. He can also finger roll..Josh cant to save his life..
HawkFan
December 21st, 2012
8:03 pm
Kind of a bad half but only down 4. Have to defend better in 2nd half
DS
December 21st, 2012
8:03 pm
Seriously whats going on with Big Al? And Josh is still Josh…complaining when the ball is still right in front of him
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
8:04 pm
The Hawks and Sixers are two of the top 5 teams in the league at forcing turnovers, but the Sixers have been winning that battle in this game. Seems like they have made more “hustle” plays as a team than the Hawks have.
DS
December 21st, 2012
8:05 pm
If Horford doesnt pick it up on the second half this will be the 3rd straight bad game for him…wonder if theres something else going on there..
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:06 pm
This looks like a loss in 24 mins.. Philly is a step faster at all 5 positions it seems..
Josh cant finish at the rim consistently
Teague is not playing like a lottery pick? Hmmmm
Luke Cage
December 21st, 2012
8:07 pm
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:03 pm
Philly’s Bigs are more skilled then the Hawks Bigs
I agree, our bigs lack post moves alot mostly because they are lighter & smaller, but when they are assertive in going to the basket immediately they have the advantage with their quickness, too many times they get the ball and kinda let the D get settled.
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:08 pm
Al is coming off a very nasty injury this year..He’s not 100..Yet.
SOS Hawks
December 21st, 2012
8:08 pm
Josh continues to throw up bricks.
Rusty
December 21st, 2012
8:11 pm
Keith when the hell are you going to stop your self from looking like a fool?
ha ha
December 21st, 2012
8:12 pm
Teague was not a lottery pick. Holiday has two more points than Teague. Seriously are you guys even watching the game smdh.. Lou was terrible the first half. He is not a pg. As soon as he came back in the lead went away and the offense sputtered..
J.J.M. good think you are not the GM. We might be Bobcats status with a cat like you calling the shots. smh
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
8:13 pm
Philly’s bigs don’t have post moves either, but they do finish at the rim better. Thaddeus Young in particular.
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:13 pm
Hawks are actually down 6, 61-55..
You cant give up 61 on the road in a half and expect to win…They are playing from behind constantly…
This is looking like 4 straight losses to Philly..
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:17 pm
Philly Bigs can put it the floor and finish at the rim more consistently than the Hawks Bigs..
They are superior finishers by far…
24 mins
DS
December 21st, 2012
8:17 pm
Horford and Josh need to step it up on the second half, I wish LD would try Teague and Lou together in one lineup. Lou is definitely not a PG and he cant and shouldnt guard JHoliday
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:18 pm
check that its 51-45 score..
High-sider
December 21st, 2012
8:18 pm
To: Najeh Davenpoop
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High-sider
December 21st, 2012
7:51 pm
Najeh Davenpoop,
“You still continue to completely miss the point of what I was talking about. Per-36 stats are just per-minute stats multiplied by 36. The only reason they post per-36 stats instead of per-minute stats is because per-36 stats are easier to understand” – Najeh Davenpoop @5:39pm, 12/21/2012
Yeah, and you’re “missing the point” that a player’s “per-minute” stats are derived from (or are calculated by using) that particular player’s “actual”/real stats.
I’m done. You refuse to see (and/or understand) the “obvious.”
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You’re also “missing the point” that when you multiply “per-minute” stats by 36, you are “projecting” (actual) “per-minute” stats (out) to “Per 36 Minutes” stat(istic)s.
Now, I’m REALLY done.
Rusty
December 21st, 2012
8:19 pm
Ha Ha you got it right Keith has to be Steven A Smith that’s who I thought he was but couldn’t remember his name. There can’t be 2 stupid guys like that on this planet. Good work
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:20 pm
Horford and Josh are doing all they can.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
8:20 pm
“You’re also “missing the point” that when you multiply “per-minute” stats by 36, you are “projecting” (actual) “per-minute” stats (out) to “Per 36 Minutes” stat(istic)s.”
High-Sider, if you don’t understand 4th grade math, it is going to be awfully tough for me to teach you over an Internet blog. But like I said about 500 times already, there is nothing “theoretical” about per-minute stats. Divide Lou’s total number of free throw attempts by the minutes he has played and you get per-minute stats. Divide it by the games he has played and you get per-game stats. It’s that simple. No “theory” or “assumption” involved.
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:21 pm
Hawks will lose by double digits tonight most likely
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
8:21 pm
What the hell happened to Al’s mid range jumper? That shot used to be automatic two years ago.
bigdave
December 21st, 2012
8:21 pm
Al right under the basket, passes.
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:22 pm
JoSh shooting brick 3’s
Allstar Al shooting FLAT FOOTED SET SHOTS
keith
December 21st, 2012
8:23 pm
MVP Kyle Korver stopping the Bleeding!!!!
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:23 pm
Holiday owns Teague
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
8:23 pm
Now Al losing confidence in that mid range jumper, passes one up to pass out to Stevenson for a bricked 3.
Get Zaza in for Al.
J.J.M.
December 21st, 2012
8:24 pm
get rid of teague guy cant defend or drive the ball
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:24 pm
Hawks may lose by 15-20
They have too many superior athletes…
Melvin
December 21st, 2012
8:25 pm
The Hawks looks like sh!t out there
Duluth Joe
December 21st, 2012
8:25 pm
If we are going to lose, I rather lose with Ivan and Zaza fighting inside than Al and Josh shooting outside jumpers
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
8:26 pm
The only stretch in this game when the Hawks actually played well as a team was when Zaza and Ivan were both in the game at the same time.
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:26 pm
AllStar Al has turned into Chief Passer..
Game Set and Match
DS
December 21st, 2012
8:26 pm
Oh well another blowout loss…I dont think LD understands that he is allowed to make adjustments to his lineup that were not predetermined before the game
High-sider
December 21st, 2012
8:26 pm
It looks as if the 76ers will “86″ the Hawks tonight. I guess I got it wrong in my earlier post.
Where’s the Hawks’ energy!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
SOS Hawks
December 21st, 2012
8:27 pm
Hawks settling down to their usual mid year crappy play now. Josh still thinks he can shoot a jumper and he sux.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
December 21st, 2012
8:27 pm
Stevenson ain’t got it tonight. Sit him down.
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:27 pm
Josh and Al have no post game! The jumpers are not falling
Game Set and Match
High-sider
December 21st, 2012
8:28 pm
There is no offensive flow or rhythm for the Hawks. [smh]
Rusty
December 21st, 2012
8:28 pm
A players actual points per minutes played are extrapolated out to 36 minutes.
Luke Cage
December 21st, 2012
8:28 pm
Oh boy!!
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:28 pm
Philly OWNS the Hawks!
HawkFan
December 21st, 2012
8:28 pm
Korver and Stevenson together is a bad combo
SOS Hawks
December 21st, 2012
8:28 pm
Sit Josh down. Nice pass loser.
SOS Hawks
December 21st, 2012
8:29 pm
Good shot Josh. You suck.
High-sider
December 21st, 2012
8:30 pm
I hear ya, Rusty.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
8:30 pm
Hawks’ half court offense is garbage when Korver is missing those 3s.
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:30 pm
Josh and AL cant win this game..Not enough talent.
They are being exposed.
Melvin
December 21st, 2012
8:30 pm
All the Hawks are doing is shooting jump shots….SMH
Harpie
December 21st, 2012
8:31 pm
Tha fact that the Hawks have a CRAP COACH is now catching up with them.
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:31 pm
Philly Bigs are destroying the Hawks Bigs
HAWKS FAN
December 21st, 2012
8:31 pm
ST JOSEPHS HAWKS FAN THAT IS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
December 21st, 2012
8:31 pm
Pachulia is the Hawks all time leader in illegal screens.
Luke Cage
December 21st, 2012
8:31 pm
Since I am on the job, I may as well start actually working since the Hawks are playin’ this way, maybe that may spur the comeback lol.
J.J.M.
December 21st, 2012
8:32 pm
I cant somach this anymore
J.J.M.
December 21st, 2012
8:32 pm
*stomach
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
8:32 pm
Hawks do way too much switching against this team. If they were this good at getting inside shots and finishing against every team, they wouldn’t be hanging around .500. They only do this against the Hawks because the Hawks keep switching and Philly gets it to the guy with the mismatch every time.
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:33 pm
Young can stroke it. What Smooove left hand!
J,J,M,
December 21st, 2012
8:33 pm
I hope Josh Smith signs with 76ers next year, I TRUELY DO !!!!!!!!!
SOS Hawks
December 21st, 2012
8:33 pm
Thats it Di**heads. Keep giving them shots till they make one. This team sux.
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:34 pm
Young is Killin Josh!
Melvin
December 21st, 2012
8:34 pm
Lou Williams playing PG is a train wreck…
DS
December 21st, 2012
8:35 pm
Wow they really dont care about this game anymore. But LD wont make any changes…
Melvin
December 21st, 2012
8:35 pm
Slimjr,
You act like the Knicks are not playing tonight or did you forgot…LOL
HawkFan
December 21st, 2012
8:35 pm
Terrible. Sixers own the Hawks. They can’t beat anyone else but the Hawks
SOS Hawks
December 21st, 2012
8:35 pm
Let’s trade Josh for a couple of mops.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
8:35 pm
Plenty of blame to spread around for this one.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
December 21st, 2012
8:35 pm
Hawks don’t make their threes = blowout
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:35 pm
The Hawks schedule has finally caught up to them.. Its was too weak for too long..Now they are playing more talented teams and are being exposed!
Our Bigs are weak
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:37 pm
Thanks Mel! hahahah
EmirS.
December 21st, 2012
8:37 pm
“Our Bigs are weak” – SlimJr
Nikola Vucevic
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
December 21st, 2012
8:37 pm
Thad Young and Jsmoove battling for the rebound and Horford just stands there and watches.
Sautee
December 21st, 2012
8:37 pm
“Josh and AL cant win this game..Not enough talent.”
“They are being exposed.” – slimjr
But somehow they were talented enough to win in Memphis. Go figure.
slim, it’s NOT talent. They are just playing like sh!t. Let them play their best against a team, and THEN lose, and we’ll talk about lack of talent.
Unless you think this is the best Al and Josh can play?
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
8:38 pm
“The Hawks schedule has finally caught up to them.. Its was too weak for too long..Now they are playing more talented teams and are being exposed!”
The Sixers are below .500. This has nothing to do with strength of schedule. For whatever reason, the Sixers out-hustle and out-execute the Hawks every time these two teams play. Maybe just a bad matchup.
HawkFan
December 21st, 2012
8:38 pm
The Sixers must be playing with 7 guys
SOS Hawks
December 21st, 2012
8:39 pm
Josh showing multiple ways that he can look like crap.
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:39 pm
20 point loss coming up
Wabe
December 21st, 2012
8:39 pm
seems the sixers have owned atlanta since doug collins got to philly…
HawkFan
December 21st, 2012
8:41 pm
Lou making it rain
Wabe
December 21st, 2012
8:41 pm
streaky lou gets it going…
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
8:41 pm
The Sixers’ bigs actually set screens. The Hawks’ bigs just slip them every time. That’s partly why the Sixers just keep setting screens against the Hawks until they switch.
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:41 pm
Philly has beaten the Hawks how many in a row?
Philly > Hawks
High-sider
December 21st, 2012
8:41 pm
“I guess I got it wrong in my earlier post.” – Highsider @8:26pm, 12/21/2012
That was about the Hawks “86ing” the 76ers tonight – not about the “‘Per 36 Minutes’ stats” debate (Najeh) Davenpoop. Najeh is just (”straight up”) wrong in/on this (”Per 36 Minutes” stats) debate/issue and is being obstinate.
Melvin
December 21st, 2012
8:43 pm
Good thing Lou got hot at the end of the 3rd qtr b/c this game was on the verge of being a blow out.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
December 21st, 2012
8:43 pm
Keep the ball in Lou’s hands!!!
High-sider
December 21st, 2012
8:43 pm
^Correction: “…not about the “‘Per 36 Minutes’ stats” debate [with*] (Najeh) Davenpoop.”
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
8:43 pm
I would start the 4th quarter with Zaza and Ivan on the floor and have at least one, if not both, on the floor the entire quarter.
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:43 pm
Lou you can do it? Bail these Weak azz bigs out again!
Danny are you watching this? Your franchise is unbalanced..Your bigs cant carry their own Jock straps tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Rusty
December 21st, 2012
8:44 pm
Every one here should know by now that LD doesn’t have a clue how to run an NBA offense.
High-sider
December 21st, 2012
8:45 pm
What’s wrong with Al?
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:45 pm
Bench Al and Josh. Go with Ivan and ZaZa the rest of the way
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:46 pm
Al appears to be going up against more talented Bigs now…Schedule?
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
8:46 pm
” Najeh is just (”straight up”) wrong in/on this (”Per 36 Minutes” stats) debate/issue and is being obstinate.”
You haven’t even explained what you mean by “actual stats”. You are just using random words to describe whatever you feel like. I still haven’t gotten one clear explanation from you regarding why it “real” OK to divide total free throws by total games played, but “theoretical” to divide total free throws by total minutes played. And the reason I haven’t gotten one clear explanation from you on that is because you don’t understand basic math. Until you do, I can’t help you.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
8:47 pm
^should say, “why it’s “real” to divide total free throws by total games played”
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:48 pm
Melvin Chicago is kicking woody’s butt tonight!
Knicks down 11
DawgNole
December 21st, 2012
8:48 pm
Are the “real” Hawks–the ones we’ve come to know and love these past 44 years–finally beginning to emerge this season?
Sure hope not.
Duluth Joe
December 21st, 2012
8:49 pm
If Sixers get Bynum healthy, this will be a tough team to deal with
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
8:49 pm
Al has been a complete non-factor in this game aside from two possessions.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
8:50 pm
Again the Hawks switched on a screen, again the Sixers got a mismatch, and again they exploited the mismatch for an easy layup.
Al seriously looks no better than Mike Scott right now.
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:50 pm
Young is toasting the Hawks
Wabe
December 21st, 2012
8:50 pm
every shot is from 15 feet and out…
and look at the shots philly’s taking.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
December 21st, 2012
8:50 pm
Take Horford out
Rusty
December 21st, 2012
8:50 pm
LD thinks the offence should be ran through Josh & let him do whatever he feels like doingHe lets Josh & Al play 15 feet from the hoop & we wonders why we are always out rebounded.
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:50 pm
This game was over at the half..Just a formality, Sautee
Wabe
December 21st, 2012
8:51 pm
oh well…falcons play tomorrow so it’s whatever
HawkFan
December 21st, 2012
8:51 pm
Time to give the remote to the wife. Should of known Hawks would suck tonight. Outside of ZaZa and Ivan the whole team sucked
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:51 pm
Philly will sweep the Hawks for the 2nd consecutive season..Now that bites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rusty
December 21st, 2012
8:52 pm
Mismatches my azz LD,
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
8:52 pm
Sixers 38 boards (15 offensive); Hawks 32 boards (12 offensive).
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
December 21st, 2012
8:52 pm
We can’t blame Teague for this one.
Luke Cage
December 21st, 2012
8:52 pm
Hawks may as well play Scott & Jenkins with the rest of the mop up crew, nobody is even trying to think about contemplating of considering going to the paint, their motto tonight is “When in doubt, jack up a shot”
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:53 pm
#15 is a non mother freaking factor..Bench him
Rusty
December 21st, 2012
8:54 pm
LD you & Josh are a good match.
Rusty
December 21st, 2012
8:55 pm
Our offense amounts to a lot of bad outside shots.
Wabe
December 21st, 2012
8:55 pm
and i think we’ll call it a night…
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:56 pm
LD has already conceded the game!Josh is on the bench for good!
I predicted a 20 point loss.Hawks down 19
Bench #15 now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
8:56 pm
Someone who has Synergy should try to see what percentage of the Sixers’ half court buckets resulted at least in part from a bigger Sixer matched up on a smaller Hawk. I’d guess at least 75% of them. And it’s not necessarily because they are a bigger team; in many cases, it’s just because they keep setting screens until they get a favorable matchup and patiently exploit it. Very similar to what the Bucks did against the Hawks in the playoffs a couple of years ago.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
December 21st, 2012
8:56 pm
Horford playing defense like Al Harrington tonight
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
December 21st, 2012
8:56 pm
Do we EVER play well against the following teams???
Miami
Philly
San Antonio
Houston
Lakers
This is such BS. This team can’t score. When LD said he was not worried about our offense scoring points this year, I knew he was full of ish
Melvin
December 21st, 2012
8:56 pm
Play the bench players for the rest of this game. Save the legs of your starters for tomorrow…
Duluth Joe
December 21st, 2012
8:57 pm
As bad as we have looked all year.
Is it time to panic? Three games against tough teams (assuming Sixers are tough), and all been not even close.
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
8:57 pm
The Flood gates have burst wide open! This lead may grow by 30
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
December 21st, 2012
8:58 pm
This team stinks. We feasted on a bunch of sh!77y teams early on. Now we get roasted
keith
December 21st, 2012
8:58 pm
If i am Danny Ferry, I am working the phones ad-nauseam to make a deal and bring in a bonafide NBA Center. I do not like the body language tonight… We cannot stand pat with Al and Josh going forward… We got rid of Average Joe and marvina…..Time has come to “CLEAN HOUSE.”
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
8:59 pm
“Do we EVER play well against the following teams???”
Haha. At least they are competitive against the Heat. If someone only watched the games the Heat and Sixers played against the Hawks, they would think the Sixers are better than the Heat.
Melvin
December 21st, 2012
8:59 pm
Why is John Jenkins not in the game? He and Petro need to finished this game. Take ZaZa, Lou and Teague out
DC in Bham
December 21st, 2012
9:00 pm
Drew doesnt know what to do with this team. why is lou will playing point, 4 fouls on teague no reason with 7 minutes left. lou aint a point guard. the team is in place, but coach aint d ferry is watching.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
December 21st, 2012
9:00 pm
Scott missed the shots but those were some strong takes to the basket.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
9:00 pm
It is officially garbage time, with the ultimate garbage man Johan Petro making an appearance.
keith
December 21st, 2012
9:01 pm
Al Horford is flat out “Garbage” No way can we justify paying this guy 12million dollars per season. To be perfectly honest, i am not sure he is worth 6million a year!!!!
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
9:01 pm
Cmon Petro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Petro!
30% shooting in the 2nd half? Wow
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
December 21st, 2012
9:02 pm
Jenkins!!!!!
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
December 21st, 2012
9:02 pm
Tolliver thinks he’s a lot better than he actually is.
DC in Bham
December 21st, 2012
9:03 pm
fire coach drew
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
9:03 pm
Al better get that mid range jumper fixed or else this team’s half court offense is screwed for the foreseeable future. He and Korver are the only shooters that opponents respect in the starting lineup. Without them keeping defenses honest, defenses will just collapse on every Teague drive and Josh post up and the Hawks will keep throwing up bricks and turning it over.
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
9:03 pm
“Tolliver thinks he’s a lot better than he actually is”
So does the rest of this squad! lol
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
9:04 pm
Trade Josh for Young!
JaeEvolution
December 21st, 2012
9:04 pm
At least the Knicks are losing.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
9:04 pm
No Sixer has 40 points tonight (or even 20) but this was a much worse defensive performance by the Hawks than the Thunder game.
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
9:05 pm
Jenkins can stroke it!
keith
December 21st, 2012
9:05 pm
High-sider
December 21st, 2012
8:45 pm
What’s wrong with Al?
Al stinks!!! He cannot make a free throw, he is slow, he can not play in the post. I would bench Al and make him a 6th man!!!!!!
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
December 21st, 2012
9:06 pm
Petro with the brick!
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
9:06 pm
down 20..
Typical ..”happy the knicks are losing”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
December 21st, 2012
9:07 pm
Petro is making 3 mill to shoot bricks in garbage time.
keith
December 21st, 2012
9:08 pm
I would start Petro over Al Horford next game…Petrro could probably make a d____ free throw!!!!!
AL does not appear to have any passion for Basketball?
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
9:08 pm
This is by far the worst loss of the year.. How many more meetings against the 76′ers?
High-sider
December 21st, 2012
9:08 pm
Najeh Davenpoop,
FYI, I have a Finance and Banking degree from a (supposedly) top-tier state university. In pursuing my bachelor’s degree, I have taken pre-Calculus, Finite Mathematics, Calculus I & II, Statistical Analysis I & II, various finance courses that involve/require a heavy concentration of higher mathematics (e.g., Management of Financial Institutions, International Finance, Investments in Finance, Corporate Finance, Accounting Financial Statements Analysis, etc.), Intermediate Micro- and Macro-economics, and various accounting courses.
To heck with you and your condescending attitude. Your name-calling as well as your attempt to belittle/disparage me doesn’t make you right or correct. If you do not or refuse to understand words/terms such as “extrapolate” and “project,” then that’s your problem – not mine.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/extrapolate
Najeh Davenpoop
December 21st, 2012
9:08 pm
Props to Tolliver for continuing to play hard.
Slimjr
December 21st, 2012
9:10 pm
#12 is the best shooter on this ball club!!
Hey High-sider I always new you were a very smart guy! And I mean it Sir!
Melvin
December 21st, 2012
9:10 pm
No reason why Jenkins shouldn’t be in the rotation. Take your lumps and coached this kid up…