Atlanta Hawks: Sixers 99, Hawks 80 (updated)

Vivlamore reporting.

PHILADELPHIA — The Hawks are limping toward Christmas. And it’s a pronounced limp.

The Hawks lost for the third time in four games by dropping a 99-80 decision to the 76ers at the Wells Fargo Center Friday. In all three losses the Hawks have trailed by at least 17 points. The lone win in the stretch was an overtime victory over the three-win Wizards.

This loss has coach Larry Drew considering a change to his starting lineup.

“I’m very concerned,” Drew said. “I’m so concerned that I’ve got to think about the lineup now. That’s three out of four (losses) but I’m more concerned about our energy. That is what concerns me the most. I can take losing but if we don’t bring the energy, if we don’t bring the juice, that’s when I really have to look at things and I’m certainly going to do that. I may have to take a look at our lineup.”

It doesn’t get easier for the Hawks before some off time. The Hawks complete a stretch of four games in five days by hosting the Central Division leading Bulls Saturday. The Hawks then won’t play again until the day after Christmas. They’ll need to make good use of the downtime.

“I really didn’t see this type of performance coming,” Drew said. “I really thought our guys would play with a lot more energy and a more sense of urgency.”

The Hawks (15-9) have now lost six straight games to the Sixers, including all three meetings last season. Through 24 games this season, the Hawks are one loss worse than last season’s 16-8 mark at this point. The Hawks entered the game with the best road record in the Eastern Conference.

Josh Smith had 17 points, 13 coming in the first quarter, for the Hawks. Lou Williams, who played his first six seasons with the Sixers, scored 13 points. Al Horford finished with seven points on 2-of-10 shooting.

“I don’t know if it’s necessarily energy,” Horford said of the recent issues. “I think we need to stay true to what has been working for us and it’s moving the ball of offense, sharing the ball offensively and playing good team defense. I think that it was very obvious that we didn’t do that as we have in the past. We have to get back on track.”

Evan Turner led the Sixers with a game-high 21 points. Thaddeus Young finished with 18 points and 11 rebounds.

The Sixers (13-14), who snapped a five-game losing streak, opened up a 22-point late lead in the fourth quarter. A Mike Scott basket with 5:58 remaining was only the second field goal for the Hawks up until that point of the final period.

With the substantial lead, and sitting at 99 points, the Sixers dribbled out the final 23 seconds of the game much to the dismay of the crowd. The home fans booed for one more basket as they were entitled to a free Big Mac from McDonalds when the Sixers hit the century mark. That was the only disappointing thing about the night for the 18,061 in attendance.

The Hawks trailed by as many as 15 points in the third quarter as the Sixers took a 69-54 lead. Williams scored 10 straight points for the Hawks to close the quarter and they trailed by eight going into the final 12 minutes. However, the Sixers went on a 16-5 run to start the final quarter and it was time for the Hawks’ reserves to finish out the game.

“The second half we just didn’t have the energy,” Drew said. “We just did not bring it. For whatever reason and I’ve got to find out because we are not a very good team if we do not play with energy.”

The Sixers led by as many as nine points in both the first and second quarters. They took at 51-45 lead into halftime.

The Hawks used an 11-0 run to erase the near double-digit deficit in the second quarter. Zaza Pachulia and Ivan Johnson scored every point. Pachulia scored the first seven points. The Sixers used an 8-0 run near the end of the second to get a cushion, softened only when Pachulia hit a jumper at the buzzer.

“One of the things is we are trying to do a lot of isolations and things like that,” Horford said. “When we are most effective is when we are continually moving the ball, we are cutting to the basket and we are attacking. That’s when we are at our best. On defense, we just have to do a better job period.”

For the second straight game, Drew was denied his 100th career victory.

- Chris Vivlamore

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199 comments Add your comment

Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde

December 21st, 2012
9:13 pm

I’m sorry but Horford quit on us tonight.

High-sider

December 21st, 2012
9:14 pm

High-sider

December 21st, 2012
9:14 pm

Just Joe

December 21st, 2012
9:14 pm

Only saw last 5 minutes. I want to see more John Jenkins.

Rusty

December 21st, 2012
9:14 pm

The hawks play like a bunch of chickens running around with no heads.We need a real coach.

Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde

December 21st, 2012
9:15 pm

John Jenkins and Mike Scott need to play more.

High-sider

December 21st, 2012
9:16 pm

So, the 76ers “86ed” (the) Hawks, 99 – 80 tonight.

DawgNole

December 21st, 2012
9:16 pm

High-sider
December 21st, 2012
9:08 pm

FYI, I have a Finance and Banking degree from a (supposedly) top-tier state university. In pursuing my bachelor’s degree, I have taken pre-Calculus, Finite Mathematics, Calculus I & II, Statistical Analysis I & II, various finance courses that involve/require a heavy concentration of higher mathematics (e.g., Management of Financial Institutions, International Finance, Investments in Finance, Corporate Finance, Accounting Financial Statements Analysis, etc.), Intermediate Micro- and Macro-economics, and various accounting courses.
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What’s all that got to do with ATL Hawks basketball?

Slimjr

December 21st, 2012
9:16 pm

This was a turrible loss. 4 in a row against the Sixers?

Al has appeared to hit a wall? Injury related? Not 100?Hmmmmm

Rusty

December 21st, 2012
9:17 pm

The chickens are running the yard because they know the coach is stupid & weak.

High-sider

December 21st, 2012
9:17 pm

Slimjr,

What’s up with your Knicks tonight at MSG vs. the Bulls?

Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde

December 21st, 2012
9:18 pm

Korver and Stevenson’s jumpers are broke right now. Put in Jenkins and Scott to replace them.

Rusty

December 21st, 2012
9:18 pm

No players have really improved under LD.

BIG DOG

December 21st, 2012
9:19 pm

If only Jenkins could play pg, JUST DAM

To small for Shooting Guard.

BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE

Wabe

December 21st, 2012
9:19 pm

john jenkins needs minutes…

f it man, just put him in the starting rotation and have lou/devin come off the bench.

Brent

December 21st, 2012
9:19 pm

A combination of bad offense and LD’s rotations was always going to be their downfall this season.

No need to panic, you should have seen this coming.

Slimjr

December 21st, 2012
9:19 pm

Yea H-s, its turrible night for the Knicks..Hurry back Amare!

WHo do the Hawks play next? Oh boy!

BIG DOG

December 21st, 2012
9:20 pm

Can Jenkins play PG ?

BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE

Brent

December 21st, 2012
9:21 pm

The good news is, a collapse makes it easier to justify firing Drew. The Hawks have won with talent while he is just riding coattails.

Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde

December 21st, 2012
9:21 pm

Jenkins – 8 points in 3 minutes

Horford – 7 points in 34 minutes

Slimjr

December 21st, 2012
9:22 pm

Man both my teams got their azzess handed to them

Knicks down 20

Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde

December 21st, 2012
9:23 pm

Starting Lineup

Teague
Jenkins
Korver
Jsmoove
Horford

Najeh Davenpoop

December 21st, 2012
9:24 pm

FTPB

“To heck with you and your condescending attitude. Your name-calling as well as your attempt to belittle/disparage me doesn’t make you right or correct. If you do not or refuse to understand words/terms such as “extrapolate” and “project,” then that’s your problem – not mine.”

I am the one condescending and calling names? Allow me to refresh your memory.

High-sider
December 19th, 2012
1:51 am

Najeh Davenpoop,

Give it up, dude; you’re wrong. “Per 36 Minutes” stats are based on “ACTUAL” stats. What ANAL-MINDED MORON [GM] evaluates players on a “per minute” basis? Don’t you realize (that) when you calculate a player’s “per minute” stats, those “per minute” stats are derived (or a derivation) from that particular player’s “actual” stats? Don’t tell me you calculate a player’s “per minute” stats using (based on) “arbitrary” stats (sarcasm).

Question No. 1: What are Jamal Crawford’s and Lou Williams’ “actual” [career] FTA/game stats? Think about it.

Question No. 2: What are Jamal Crawford’s and Lou Williams’ “actual” [career] scoring averages?

Game, set [and] match.

That is the dictionary definition of condescension and name-calling, and it came in response to absolutely no condescension or name calling from me.

I don’t give two watery cholera sh-ts about your supposed credentials, dude. Anyone can lie on an anonymous Internet blog. Grandad has supposedly coached basketball for longer than I have lived and I disagree with 78.2% of what he says. The bottom line is your posts have demonstrated that you clearly have zero understanding about what I am talking about or what per minute stats say or mean. Maybe you were too busy Youtubing Jamal Crawford highlights when you were supposedly sitting in those classes.

Tell me why per-minute stats are “theoretical” and per-game stats are “real”. You still haven’t explained any justification for that arbitrary distinction. Or, keep whining that I am being condescending. I don’t give a sh-t.

Slimjr

December 21st, 2012
9:24 pm

Jenkins needs to get 20 mins a night at least..He is the best shooter on this squad! A machine

Wabe

December 21st, 2012
9:24 pm

play jenkins man.

dude looks nice.

he could be a real player.

Brent

December 21st, 2012
9:25 pm

Seriously, though… Instead of actually sticking with Teague and grooming him, Drew has basically said F IT and inserting Lou to run point guard, even though Lou has no interest in actually being a facilitator. So the offense sucks.

Drew complains about rebounds, yet relies on his short frontcourt and keeps Zaza and Ivan on the bench for long stretches. How did this clown get a job? Oh that’s right… he stabbed Woodson in the back.

W.R. Terrell

December 21st, 2012
9:26 pm

Is reality setting in yet? Did the SUPERSTAR the “Smoove” singlehandedly handle Philly? LD is a joke and folks need to stop giving Josh undeserved credit, he believes that crock. Chicago comes to town tomorrow and a slaughter could possibly be brewing. Can the HAWKS win, yes they can but only if the “Smoove”, rebounds, forget about outside shots, plays defense and stop trying to be a point guard then the rest of the team may get into synch. The truth is that the “Smoove” and LD need to go because their love for each other is detrimental to the team.

Wabe

December 21st, 2012
9:27 pm

why are yall turning this crawford vs lou debate into like a 4 day thing? i remember bringing that up like a couple days back and yall still at it.

jamal’s better than lou. there’s really no need to pull stats or anything.

we saw jamal play for 2 years, and he was a lot better than lou – like a lot.

lou’s wayyyy too streaky.

jamal got better handles, finishes better, has a better jumper.

say whatever you want about getting to the line a couple more times a game [if that's even true], jamal does everything else better.

Slimjr

December 21st, 2012
9:28 pm

Excellent points you brought up Brent..

If Jenkins was 6-7 or 6-8 he would have gone much higher in the draft.. Probably 10-15..

High-sider

December 21st, 2012
9:29 pm

DawgNole,

I was responding to Najeh. Don’t act as if I’m the only one [blogger] who has engaged in a debate on this blog. The debate is/was [in fact] sports-related and the debate (also) involves/involved a current Hawks player (Lou Williams) and a former Hawks player (Jamal Crawford). Do Hawks players have anything to do with “ATL Hawks basketball”? (That was a rhetorical question.)

Quit trippin’.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 21st, 2012
9:30 pm

A couple of garbage time buckets aren’t enough for me to say Jenkins should be starting, but I don’t think he’s any worse or different from Morrow at this point. If the Hawks’ focus was on improving the current team as much as possible, trading Morrow for a SF who can defend and/or rebound would be a good idea. But this is still a transition year, and Morrow’s greatest asset to this team is that he is friends with Dwight Howard. So if the Hawks have to keep him around to make the ATL a more attractive destination for Dwight, they should keep him.

Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde

December 21st, 2012
9:32 pm

That Iso Smoove crap needs to be flushed down the toilet with a triple order of hashbrowns all the way from Waffle House.

Slimjr

December 21st, 2012
9:32 pm

Whats amazing to me is how Skilled the Sixers Bigs look compared to the Hawks Bigs..

It is no accident that the Hawks can not beat this team..Cause the Hawks Bigs are dismantled head to head…It seems like every time they match up…

W.R. Terrell

December 21st, 2012
9:33 pm

I don’t know if Al quit on the HAWKS tonight, I think some of the players said F*** it tho. I do agree that losing could be the best thing for the HAWKS. LD will be fired, Jenkins and Scott will get playing time and mebbee, just mebbee some team will want the “Smoove” and give up a 1st round pick but that’s a biggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg mebbee.

MattP

December 21st, 2012
9:34 pm

Hawks are about to be 4th place in east… lol

Najeh Davenpoop

December 21st, 2012
9:35 pm

“why are yall turning this crawford vs lou debate into like a 4 day thing? i remember bringing that up like a couple days back and yall still at it.”

There isn’t a whole lot of difference between Jamal and Lou in my opinion (not enough to make it a real debate anyway). As far as I’m concerned it stopped being a Jamal vs. Lou debate about 3 and a half days ago. Ever since then I have tried to explain what per-minute stats mean to High-sider and he has responded by alternating between insulting me and responding to things I didn’t say.

Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde

December 21st, 2012
9:35 pm

Najeh only Morrow and Jenkins need to be playing SG. That Korver and Devin Harris at the 2 experiment has failed.

Slimjr

December 21st, 2012
9:35 pm

Allstar Al with 7 points?

What gives man?

Slimjr

December 21st, 2012
9:36 pm

Allstar Al= Invisible man

Melvin

December 21st, 2012
9:40 pm

Devin Harris for Corey Maggette

DawgNole

December 21st, 2012
9:40 pm

High-sider
December 21st, 2012
9:29 pm

DawgNole,
I was responding to Najeh. Don’t act as if I’m the only one [blogger] who has engaged in a debate on this blog. The debate is/was [in fact] sports-related and the debate (also) involves/involved a current Hawks player (Lou Williams) and a former Hawks player (Jamal Crawford). Do Hawks players have anything to do with “ATL Hawks basketball”? (That was a rhetorical question.)
Quit trippin’.
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I’m not “acting” like anything. I didn’t even join the blog until late in the 3Q. And all that gibberish you just wrote still doesn’t answer my question: What does your course load have to do with ATL basketball?

Quit blabberin’.

Slimjr

December 21st, 2012
9:40 pm

Al did not quit. He was being guarded by Mobile Bigs outside so he reverted to becoming Chief Passer..

Did he lead the team in assist for the 3rd consecutive night? Just askin?

High-sider

December 21st, 2012
9:42 pm

“…And the reason I haven’t gotten one clear explanation from you on that is because you don’t understand basic math. Until you do, I can’t help you.” – Najeh Davenpoop @8:46pm, 12/21/2012

You said that I don’t understand basic math but you’re not being condescending?

High-sider

December 21st, 2012
9:48 pm

DawgNole, read my post @9:42pm, 12/21/2012. Now, quit trippin’ and quit hatin’.

Slimjr, thanks for the compliment but I’m not trying to boast. I just want Najeh to recognize.

Najeh,

I am not making anything up; recognize.

High-sider

December 21st, 2012
9:48 pm

Woody just got ejected.

Slimjr

December 21st, 2012
9:49 pm

Woody and Melo got tossed tonight! Oh boy!

Noah and Chandler got tossed! Wow!

High-sider

December 21st, 2012
9:49 pm

Is there going to be a “melee” at Bulls-Knicks game?

Slimjr

December 21st, 2012
9:50 pm

Knick fans are letting Noah have it!

BIG DOG

December 21st, 2012
9:50 pm

9 for 25 in 3 point shooting, JUST DAM

Live by 3 you die by 3.

JUMPSHOTS THE HOLE GAME.

If you have Horford and Josh PLAYING your front court and shooting jumpshots all night along with everybody jacking up 3, guest what you go from being rich to poor man house in a heart beat.

BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE

Duluth Joe

December 21st, 2012
9:55 pm

I must say there is a lot of drama in NY-Chicago game. I wonder if any chance Noah may get suspended for tomorrow night :)