Atlanta Hawks: Thunder 100, Hawks 92 (updated)
Vivlamore reporting.
Kevin Durant would have nothing to do with a Hawks comeback.
The Thunder star scored a game-high 41 points, including 18 in the fourth quarter, as the Hawks failed to overcome a 17-point deficit in a 100-92 loss Wednesday at Philips Arena.
The Hawks nearly erased the big deficit and pulled to within four points, 73-69, early in the fourth quarter. Then Durant went to work. He scored 18 of the Thunders’ next 22 points, including a stretch of 13 straight.
The Hawks continued to fight but could never pull closer.
“He’s very, very talented,” Hawks swingman DeShawn Stevenson said of Durant. “Sometimes you can play good defense but even good defense is not good enough for a guy who is 7-foot tall with a jump shot like that, with a handle. Tonight he had a great night. It was his night.”
Russell Westbrook added 27 points for the Thunder (21-4), who improved on their NBA-best record with their 12th straight victory. Westbrook scored 21 first-half points as the Thunder built their biggest lead in the second quarter. Durant and Westbrook accounted for 68 percent of the offense. Durant added 13 rebounds and Westbrook had 11 assists to complete double-doubles.
The Hawks (15-8) were led by Jeff Teague with 19 points. Josh Smith added 17 points and 12 rebounds. Al Horford and Lou Williams scored 13 points apiece. It was only the fourth loss for the Hawks in the past 16 games.
The Thunder took full control of the game in the second quarter building their insurmountable lead. They took a 55-41 advantage into the intermission as the Hawks shot just 37 percent (9-for-24) and made just one of their first seven shots in the second quarter. Westbrook had 12 points in the second quarter alone.
“It seems as the game progressed we wore down,” coach Larry Drew said of the first half. “We weren’t as sharp executing our sets. That resulted in some bad shots. We had a lot of bad shots in that first half. That was the reason we got down. I told the guys at halftime, when you play against a good team, a team who defends the way they do, you have to trust in what you do. It’s not a time to fragment. I thought early we played too much one-on-one and it resulted in a lot of bad shots. They got out and ran and attacked us to the run.”
The Hawks cut their deficit to 10 points early in the third quarter. Horford drove to the basket for a dunk and appeared to be fouled. Durant got a basket and the other end and then added a free throw when Horford was called for a technical for protesting the non-whistle. The Thunder would get their lead back to 17 points before the Hawks closed the third quarter on a 14-2 run to go into the final quarter down just seven points, 73-66. Smith had a 3-pointer, Zaza Pachulia had a pair of put-backs, Williams slammed two points on an alley-oop pass from Smith and Anthony Tolliver hit three free-throws.
Tolliver scored the first three points of the fourth quarter but the Hawks could get no closer.
“The second quarter they created too much separation,” Horford said. “Against a good team like this, we can’t have lapses that big. I felt the second half we fought, we played hard and we just couldn’t crack them to tie the game or take the lead.”
The Hawks credited their second-half run on a better defensive effort and energy sparked by Horford.
“We were tougher than in the first two quarters. I think it started with Al, when he drove to the bucket and there was no call,” Pachulia said. “… He got very aggressive and it definitely affected me. He got mad and it affected me and when I got in the game I tried to do the same.”
The game got physical with players exchanging words and both sides protesting calls. The Hawks, who had won two straight against the defending Western Conference champions, said they weren’t about to back down.
“We put our pants on just like they do,” Smith said. “We are not going to back down from anybody, no matter what the records says, no matter what the media says about a team. This is why I love this group of individuals in this locker room. We are not scared of anybody. We are willing to take the challenge. Unfortunately we just fell short tonight.”
The contest was the second of five back-to-back games already this season for the Hawks. After a day off Thursday, they play another road-home back-to-back at the Sixers Friday and versus the Bulls Saturday. The Hawks are 8-2 in back-to-backs this season.
- Chris Vivlamore
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Najeh Davenpoop
December 19th, 2012
9:57 pm
Apparently Big Dog Glenn Robinson’s son is going to get drafted in the late lottery this year. That makes me feel pretty f-cking old. It was only 10 years ago that Big Dog was cementing himself among my least favorite Hawks players of all time.
O'Brien
December 19th, 2012
9:57 pm
Hawks may rank top 5 in defensive efficiency, but in their last 2 losses, they have given up 115 to Golden State, and 100 to OKC.
O'Brien
December 19th, 2012
9:58 pm
Hawks outrebounded by 8, shoot 65% from the FT line, and 38% from 3. I think those are the 3 aspects of the game that play a huge role as to whether or not Hawks win or lose.
O'Brien
December 19th, 2012
9:58 pm
I think one of the reasons the Hawks struggled tonight was playing an OT game last night, so guys were tired. And Al has now had 2 bad games in a row. Is it cause for concern?
Slimjr
December 19th, 2012
9:58 pm
MISS UNIVERSE 2012 IS MISS USA!
TOUGH LOSS, MORE TO COME
High-sider
December 19th, 2012
10:00 pm
Durant scored 41% of the Thunder’s points – 41 out of 100 points. That was some easy math, huh.
Thunder beat Hawks, 100 – 92.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 19th, 2012
10:00 pm
Hawks’ half court offense (which wasn’t great in the first place) has regressed the last three games. Gotta get back to the ball movement and high low game that sparked the 6 game winning streak a couple of weeks ago. Haven’t seen much of the Josh-Al high low game at all the last three games.
Rev in Tampa
December 19th, 2012
10:03 pm
Missed the game. Had to go Christmas caroling with the church. Bah humbug.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 19th, 2012
10:03 pm
LD bears a lot of responsibility for this loss too. Morrow was -16 in 10 minutes in large part because LD went super small and put him on Durant, which made other players have to help and left the Thunder shooters wide open. And they really should have gone with the big lineup (Josh-Al-Zaza in the front court) for a variety of reasons, rebounding being the first among them.
keith
December 19th, 2012
10:03 pm
We have a lot of work to do…We have too many scoring droughts. Not enough points in the paint..
ALS0…IMO…Miss USA was WEAK!!!!!!!!
O'Brien
December 19th, 2012
10:04 pm
Najeh,
When the Hawks went on their 6 game win streak, were they playing quality teams like GS or OKC?
SuckerFree
December 19th, 2012
10:05 pm
@Rod
quit with the negativity. The only person we couldn’t stop was KD. LeBron can’t even stop KD. He is what he is. A walking 30 points…pencil it in…it’s happening.
The only ones in double figures…KD & Russell. OKC shot 43% from the field. That’s not outstanding.
The game was lost on the glass and on the free throw line.
Slimjr
December 19th, 2012
10:05 pm
They have film and are adjusting as they should to defend the Hawks..
It only gets harder as the Hawks competition improves..The Schedule will find you…
Just Joe
December 19th, 2012
10:05 pm
37% from the field against GS. 38% tonight. Offensive efficiency is the key in my opinion. We got out-rebounded because we missed way more shots than our competition. Other than that, OKC was 19 of 20 from the line. Hawks 11 of 17.
keith
December 19th, 2012
10:06 pm
Rev in Tampa
December 19th, 2012
10:03 pm
Rev…Rev,,,,Rev….Where are your priorities? Hope you have Tivo???
W.R. Terrell
December 19th, 2012
10:06 pm
Well someone was talking about Josh singlehandedly beating the Thunder last year. Where do these dreamers come from. Lets see I think he was 8-19, 0-3 on free throws, 3 turnovers, 12 rebounds and a couple of blocks. Why some of you folks feel like this guy will take the HAWKS over the hump is beyond me. Philly is coming up and I feel another disaster coming, hopefully we can beat Cleveland this time around but that’s about it. Reality should be setting in, if not then ask your docs for some Prozac.
Slimjr
December 19th, 2012
10:07 pm
Hey Rev tell em Nimord started christmas then they’ll label you the Grinch whole stole christmas.hahahahahaha
Najeh Davenpoop
December 19th, 2012
10:07 pm
“When the Hawks went on their 6 game win streak, were they playing quality teams like GS or OKC?”
No, but their most impressive win during that streak was a double digit win over the Clippers, and they followed it up with another 3 game streak where they beat Denver and Memphis. Throughout that entire time, the offense looked a lot better than it has looked the last three games. More ball movement, high low game, and pick and rolls; less standing around and watching.
Rod from College Park
December 19th, 2012
10:09 pm
“The only person we couldn’t stop was KD.”
Obviously you have no idea what you just watched. So no need for me to respond.
W.R. Terrell
December 19th, 2012
10:09 pm
Is reality setting in ye? I hope so because the beating of the Thunder singlehandedly as someone said last eve is still a dream
Slimjr
December 19th, 2012
10:09 pm
Can Allstar Al get us over the hump Fan club member? Hmmmmmmm
Rod from College Park
December 19th, 2012
10:13 pm
“They have film and are adjusting as they should to defend the Hawks..”
Ding!! The play where Josh gets the ball on the block, and he kicks to open shooters is becoming easy to defend. Especially when they don’t fear the post game.
SuckerFree
December 19th, 2012
10:13 pm
lol @ Tolliver having ice on his shoulders….he played like 8 minutes
High-sider
December 19th, 2012
10:15 pm
SuckerFee and Just Joe,
The Hawks and Thunder made the same amount of field goals and 3pt. field goals tonight. You’re right the difference was at the FT line.
Hawks – 36 of 94 from the field; 9 of 24 from the 3pt. arc
Thunder – 36 of 84 from the field; 9 of 25 from the 3pt. arc
http://www.nba.com/games/20121219/OKCATL/gameinfo.html?ls=iref:nbahpgt0021200371#
Slimjr
December 19th, 2012
10:15 pm
@Rod,
Preach, Choir, Tabernacle!
Sameba
December 19th, 2012
10:19 pm
WTF Korver plays against Durant?! KK could not guard Barnes!
Why LD is refusing starting a big lineup? The Hawks were outrebounded 44-52
and that was a big factor in the loss – good O starts after good D.
This game is on LD.
SuckerFree
December 19th, 2012
10:19 pm
@ Rod
“Obviously you have no idea what you just watched. So no need for me to respond.”
Because you know KD was the only one we couldn’t stop. Westbrook 9-21. He was hot early….then they clamped down on him and he made 8 free throws. He had 2 buckets in the second half because Teague and Lou picked up the defense.
Every time they needed a bucket KD answered no matter the circumstance or who was guarding him. There’s no defense for him. They had 2 players in double figures; one shot 42% and the other shot 61%. Figure it out.
Slimjr
December 19th, 2012
10:21 pm
When your big who out weighs the guy guarding him by 80lbs and has a 7 inch height advantage becomes Chief Passer at the free throw line instead of punishing the mouse in the house, then expect to fall short many times…
Rev in Tampa
December 19th, 2012
10:21 pm
SlimJr,
You seem to live in those first ten chapters of Genesis (Nephilim & Nimrod).
Here is a question for you, “Do you know the identity of the seed (offspring) of the woman in Genesis 3:15?
O'Brien
December 19th, 2012
10:23 pm
Slim,
What game were u watching? Who was guarding Al?
O'Brien
December 19th, 2012
10:23 pm
I know KD can’t be stopped, but to see Morrow and Stevenson on him was laughable. Hawks really need a SF who can do a better job than Morrow and Stevenson, because right now, our only good defender of SF is Josh.
Speaking of which, why didnt LD go to the big lineup more?
keith
December 19th, 2012
10:24 pm
If Danny decides to keep Josh and Al going forward, neither is worth more than 8mil/per season. If i am the GM
Slimjr
December 19th, 2012
10:25 pm
Is there a pattern going on here?
Back-to-back pt. guards going for 27? Fascinating[ Spock's voice]
keith
December 19th, 2012
10:26 pm
keith
December 19th, 2012
10:24 pm
If i am the GM, i do not think we have the front court that could lead us to a championship. I would tweak the roster and move Josh for “Draft picks” unprotected picks. Also, when Al’s deal is done, he can walk….
SuckerFree
December 19th, 2012
10:29 pm
@O’Brien That position is the weakness of the Hawks team no doubt about it. We don’t have a SF on the roster (not counting JSmoove since he’s “considered” a 4). However, it wouldn’t have mattered much tonight because Durant is Durant. There’s not a SF in the league that can do anything with him.
He’s shooting 51% from the field and 90% from the FT line on the season which is flat out incredible given that he takes a lot of jump shots. Really some video game stuff.
Slimjr
December 19th, 2012
10:33 pm
OB it was on a switch! take it easy….lol..
Sameba
December 19th, 2012
10:34 pm
In every game where the opposing team has a very good SF the Hawks should play a big lineup. Otherwise the loss is inevitable. Cannot LD understand this? Is he so goofy??
Mookie Blaylock
December 19th, 2012
10:38 pm
Tolliver attempted to win over Hawks fans from his horrible play with his pre-game interview today. All the talk of “Adopting” a family with his wife, giving them Holiday Dinners, and listening to a “Christian Artist” to get “pumped up” before games. What a bunch of BS.
keith
December 19th, 2012
10:38 pm
I am watching the Kings right now.. Cousins has turned out to be a “Bust” so far. What a Bum!?Hawks could probably move Josh and Teague for Cousins???
Slimjr
December 19th, 2012
10:38 pm
“I will put enmity between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and her offspring;
he shall bruise your head,
and you shall bruise his heel.” Genesis 3:14-16
keith
December 19th, 2012
10:43 pm
The more i observe the Atlanta Hawks play Basketball, the more I am convinced that LD is an “Idiot.” He’s in over his head! He’s a great assistant coach. Larry is like the “Girlfriend” to the “Really hot Girl” That’s the best way i can make it real? Which one of those girls would you rather date?????
Slimjr
December 19th, 2012
10:44 pm
The phrase “Seed of the woman” is sometimes counted as one of the titles of Jesus in the Bible?
I’m not a scholar.. Whats your take?
Sameba
December 19th, 2012
10:46 pm
The only reason we won at Memphis was that we played a big lineup for the most time…
Rod from College Park
December 19th, 2012
10:48 pm
“Because you know KD was the only one we couldn’t stop. Westbrook 9-21. He was hot early….then they clamped down on him and he made 8 free throws. He had 2 buckets in the second half because Teague and Lou picked up the defense.”
No I don’t know that. Westbrook had 27 and he is averaging 20 for the year he is shooting 41% from the field for the year, and shot 42% against us tonight. So no, I don’t believe we shut him down. LOL. By the way, the first half does count as part of the game.
Slimjr
December 19th, 2012
10:48 pm
If I had a choice between the Girlfriend or the Really hot girl?
I’ll take the Girlfriend cause the [really hot girl] would probably be a basket case… hahahha
Slimjr
December 19th, 2012
10:55 pm
The Hawks could use a Giant to protect the rim…lol…
Harpie
December 19th, 2012
11:02 pm
Larry Drew sucks!
Slimjr
December 19th, 2012
11:03 pm
OKC are 17-1 when they reach 100!
Slimjr
December 19th, 2012
11:06 pm
Woody= 37-12
22-2 @ home
Section 303
December 19th, 2012
11:23 pm
Hawks seem like they are in some kind of offensive funk right now. It started with the Golden State game and has just carried over. They blew so many scoring chances tonight. There were missed layups, missed free throws, missed jumpers, missed 3’s….add on the fact that every Hawk seemed to be required to bobble the ball on every first touch.
Josh and Al did not play that well tonight. When those two are off, makes things really hard.
They will look a lot better once shots start falling, again. Hope that begins on Friday, at Philly. Remember, Philly owned us last year.
Section 303
December 19th, 2012
11:24 pm
Also…Durant is great, no doubt. But, he got way too many open looks tonight. At least three instances where he was left standing all alone. He scored on all three. Not sure how that happens. He’s going to score. At least make him work!
Sameba
December 19th, 2012
11:28 pm
Section 303:
Josh and Al did not play that well tonight. When those two are off, makes things really hard.
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And is this surprising? When you play them so heavily (like one plays some important playoff games) in most of the regular games, and do not utilize your bench properly, this is what we should expect going forward.
falCans
December 19th, 2012
11:43 pm
Josh should have been force fed the ball more…it was clear ibaka , perkins and sesfolosha were no match…..Al is starting to grow on me….constant display of heart and charachter. To bad he isnt worth the 12 mill he is getting….Moving forward KEEP Ivan Pachulia Horford Lou and Josh….Teague has to go….19 &9 tonight??? Quietest 19 & 9 ever. Decent player but its being reported hell be seeking between 9 – 11 million annualy….smh DEFINITLY NOT worth that
Sameba
December 19th, 2012
11:53 pm
GS small forward Barnes got 4 points today, and Kings are winning. Does this tell you something??
Rev in Tampa
December 20th, 2012
12:00 am
SlimJr,
You are right in connecting the seed of the woman to Jesus. The Book of Revelation, chapter 12, makes it clear that Jesus is intended.
With your wide and unique interests I thought you might have studied it at some point. I consider you the renaissance man of the blog.
Slimjr
December 20th, 2012
12:11 am
What a kind thing to say Rev.
Rev, the more I learn the more I realize I don’t know.
Thank you.
Rusty
December 20th, 2012
12:25 am
My opinion of LD will never change,no matter how this team might perform. The only thing i see happening with the offence is the ball being passed around with a shot being taken from 20 feet. Lou Williams is over rated now where as good as JC. The only one ever taking it to the hole is JT . Every time we would make a run LD would pull JT for Williams & & he is a pg like JC was.JT played well on the offensive & defensive end. LD only plays him 32 min.,I thought that with Harris out he would play more minutes or is he too old to play more. I’m so sick of watching Josh play stupid.Wii LD keep giving Ivan decent minutes,you never can depend on LD to make good decisions. I still don’t see LD ever beinga good enough of a coach to lead any team anywhere.
Grandad
December 20th, 2012
1:03 am
Has anyone noticed that a couple of guys are `hesitant’
to pass the ball to Korver ?
Lou was the 1st I noticed, then tonite Teaguer
flat out looked the other way as KKorv was wide open ?
I will continue to watch awhile before I adjudicate.
I notice because a shooter must catch the in rhythm and on time.
If delivered too late – it may as well have not been passed at all.
In years past, there were players who would not pass to Zaza.
Little things of this nature although picayune
are the tiny fractures that lead to offensive breakdowns.
Then ultimately worse.
I hope I`m wrong !
Sameba
December 20th, 2012
1:24 am
“The only thing i see happening with the offence is the ball being passed around with a shot being taken from 20 feet.”
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Rusty, I also noticed this tendency lately. With this kind of the Hawks roster, when we do not have a legit C with great post moves, such offence is a recipe to loosing. I thought the Hawks should play a very uptempo game to take advantage of our undersized roster. Instead, the Hawks settle for a slow, often ISO-style offence. This type of a game can be played when one goes with a big lineup. But playing like this with a smaller lineup defeats the purpose of going small…
Grandad
December 20th, 2012
1:35 am
The Hawks have some players who can fill up the stat sheet;
but, alas, they do not have a player who can fill the scorebook.
Whether a player plays with his back to the basket or facing,
it matters not,
we need a player that can score.
sam'l
December 20th, 2012
1:39 am
actually a winnable game…….on the radio, it sounded like Josh was playing stuipid….but I didn’t watch it myself.
Why could we not stop Durant? Make free throws? That was the game……
Sameba
December 20th, 2012
1:42 am
“…we need a player that can score.”
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Agreed. But this may not happen soon. As I see it, with the present roster, one should play most of the bench players, try to play our draft picks, especially Jenkins. But I suppose the Hawks try to achieve the best results they can in order to showcase some of the guys… In this case one can do nothing but be patient… Until the trade deadline…
Sameba
December 20th, 2012
1:54 am
sam’l:
actually a winnable game…….on the radio, it sounded like Josh was playing stuipid….but I didn’t watch it myself.
Why could we not stop Durant? Make free throws? That was the game……
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Actually, the whole team played stupid, starting with the HC. Can you imagine KD being guarded in turn by almost all of our SG’s ? Like carrying experiment which of our SG can guard him best. Now you may think I tell you a joke, but this is what happened today…
Grandad
December 20th, 2012
1:57 am
I really like this team … ten fold more so than the past few yrs,
[Iso-JoeJohnson era]
but, they may have hit their ceiling already.
They have flaws, but team chemistry seems to have carried them
early on.
LD says defense, but I`m not certain the defense is as stout
as LD thinks it`s capable of being nor is it anywhere close
to being a shutdown defense at this point.
Still – the Team Play has been fun to watch.
Sameba
December 20th, 2012
2:12 am
It would be much better if Smith checked KD. May be Josh would get tired and instead of scoring 17 pts would score only 10. But in that case it is very unlikely KD would go up to 41, he would rather be somewhere in 20-24 pts range. This would obviously result at least in a more competitive and fun game to watch…
Sameba
December 20th, 2012
2:21 am
Also, in 18 minutes, Zaza had 6 pts & 10 rebounds (5 offensive!). Was not that also not stupid not to play him more??
Sameba
December 20th, 2012
2:33 am
And compare this to the following:
Perkins – 2 pts, 7 rebs (1 offensive);
Ibaka – 4 pts, 14 rebs (4 offensive);
Perkins played 28 mins, while Ibaka 34 mins. And Zaza got only 18.5 mins. Does anyone see a logic here?
Sameba
December 20th, 2012
2:39 am
As Rusty is saying, the Hawks win IN SPITE of LD
BravesFan79
December 20th, 2012
5:15 am
Mookie: Clearly you dont watch Boxing or UFC. Both Holyfield and Benson Henderson come out to Christian music, in fact Benson came out to a souped up version of “Jesus loves the little children” before he beat one of my favorite fighters in Nate Diaz. So you claiming christian music cant hype someone up is laughable because theres some good artist out there who dont have to talk about pimping young girls and slinging powder in order to be successful.
BravesFan79
December 20th, 2012
5:22 am
Count me as a new Tolliver fan. Always nice to see someone who spends their money wisely instead of on strippers and rims, also nice to meet a quality black man after meeting so many worthless scumbags while working the streets of Atlanta. If everyone was like Tolliver, racism would not have a valid reason to exist!
High-sider
December 20th, 2012
5:56 am
To: BravesFan79 (and all bloggers)
“Count me as a new Tolliver fan. Always nice to see someone who spends their money wisely instead of on strippers and rims, also nice to meet a quality black man after meeting so many worthless scumbags while working the streets of Atlanta. If everyone was like Tolliver, racism would not have a valid reason to exist!” – BravesFan79 @5:22am, 12/20/2012
So, according to you [BravesFan79] (some or many) blacks give (white) racism “a valid reason to exist.”
Well, if every (white) person was like John Brown (May 09, 1800 – December 02, 1859), there (probably) would NOT be any (white) racism or (white) supremacy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_(abolitionist)
Just Joe
December 20th, 2012
6:07 am
Hawks have played a fairly easy schedule. Not just the quality of opponents, but also the # of games and their locations. Hawks have played 23 games to date, only 10 on the road. Compare that to Indiana that’s played 26 games already, and 15 on the road (or Denver’s 18 road games out of 26, with 17 games coming against .500 or better teams).
I give credit to the Hawks for taking advantage of the schedule and posting a fine record of 15 & 8. However, I will not be surprised to see them continue to struggle for a while. As the schedule picks up and the quality of teams improves, LD’s motion offense will have a tendency to slow down and we could see a ton of long jumpshots. 37% FG% against GS. 38% last night. Could be a trend.
Just Joe
December 20th, 2012
6:15 am
Al Horford’s last 5 games. 11 pts & 8 rebounds on 42% shooting.
Teague’s last 5. 12 pts & 6 assists on 49% shooting.
Josh’s last 5. 14 pts & 9 rebounds on 42% shooting.
LD (or Ferry) will have to figure out the problem and fix it. This won’t get it done.
High-sider
December 20th, 2012
6:17 am
To: All bloggers especially BravesFan79
So, probably according to BravesFan79, “Iceberg Slim” [Robert Beck] (Aug. 04, 1918 – Apr. 28,1992) was a “notorious black pimp” in America and Dennis Hof (born Oct. 14, 1946) is an American entrepreneur and businessman. (sarcasm)
Double standard like a “big dog” – huh?
“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceberg_Slim” [Take off the quotation marks]
“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Hof” [Take off the quotation marks]
hawker
December 20th, 2012
7:38 am
the hawks are better than OKC–they were just tired and flat. Plus, ATL got hosed by the refs the whole game. ATL will pick it up big next game–book it.
drmaryb.(""_*).
December 20th, 2012
7:40 am
Nostradamus!
Like Sir Charles mantras:
1. Live by the three – Die by the three.
2. You can NOT win, without the ball.
This all started when Mr.Woodson exited stage – left.
_________________________________
1. Our bigs became small with jump shooting activities.
2. The PF’s became point guards on every fast break because, Princeton [see college ball] says the PG is unecessary.
3. Winning and Losing begins and ends with Coaching Philosophy.
Even with the slow footed Bibby? He controlled the game and, ran the offensive sets 100.
__________________
1. Get yourself a Big Man that knows how to patrol the paint on both ends and, glue his azz inside.
2. Go get your azz a damned coach in here, while you are at it.
3. Find a SF or develop one from the draft, move up for a better pick – do something.
________________
This city … this town … these fans? We deserve a winner! Ship these losers out of here.
O'Brien
December 20th, 2012
7:53 am
From Yahoo sports; Pistons are actively shopping Austin Daye.
He is making $3 mil this year. Tall and skinny (6′11″, 200 lbs). Can he play SF? Is he any good?
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
December 20th, 2012
8:07 am
This team is so average at home under Larry Drew.
FIRE LD
Admiral SnAckbar
December 20th, 2012
8:19 am
marvin did a good job guarding KD.
terrell
December 20th, 2012
8:25 am
15-8 with LD’s sorry butt as the coach, in a “transition” year? I’ll take it. Lets see……. We’ve got a better record than Deron and Avg Joe,(lol) a better record than Kobe and Dwight, we just hung in there with the BEST team in the league right now, we’ve been in nearly every game so far, and we’re only a couple of games behind the world champion Heat. No complaints here. Well except for LD’s stupid rotations. Some of you folks act like we’re supposed to go 82-0 this year, with 29 guards and a couple of forwards. lol.
Admiral SnAckbar
December 20th, 2012
8:31 am
Hawks would have won that game for sure if Marvin was still a Hawk.
Just Joe
December 20th, 2012
8:34 am
OB…I’d take a chance on Daye from the Pistons, but based on his production (or lack of production) over several years, to me, that deal would have to look like:
Morrow for Daye & a 2nd rd pick.
-or-
Petro & a 2nd rd pick for Daye.
$3M is a lot to pay for a guy that has trouble getting off the bench for the Pistons. His cap hold next summer will be roughly $7M as a restricted free agent.
Just Joe
December 20th, 2012
8:41 am
Daye is one of those “combo forwards” or “tweeners”. Same role as Tolliver. Appears to be a better shooter than Tolliver. Challenged by defense & rebounding, so he should fit right in.