9:08 pm December 11, 2012, by Chris Vivlamore
The Atlanta Hawks have won 8 of their last 10 games. CineSport’s Justin Shackil & the AJC’s Chris Vivlamore discuss Atlanta’s success & how Kyle Korver’s return from injury will impact the team.
December 11th, 20129:14 pm
December 11th, 20129:15 pm
December 11th, 20129:22 pm
C-Viv said [to paraphrase] this Hawks [team] needs to keep beating its inferior opponents. C-Viv is [also] not ready to give the Hawks the “elite” status.
December 11th, 20129:33 pm
“I predicted 17/11 for Al before the season started. I doubt that he makes it as I see how his teammates tend to forget him for large stretches of time (while they conduct an in-game 3-point shooting contest).”
Al currently is averaging 16.8 and 10.2. He is closer to the 17 than the 11. As of right now, if he doesn’t make it to 17/11, it’s going to be more because of rebounding than scoring.
Not that I’m complaining about the season he’s having at all, don’t get me wrong.
December 11th, 20129:36 pm
Well if the lakers keep their pace up dwight could be making his way home for sure
December 11th, 20129:40 pm
FTPB, here’s a link to the full article Jae Evolution was quoting, about Josh strongly considering staying in ATL.
December 11th, 20129:45 pm
Cavs pierce Lakers, 100 – 97.
Does [Coach] D’Antoni still have a job?
Phil Jackson…paging Phil Jackson.
December 11th, 20129:51 pm
December 11th, 20129:56 pm
Thanks for the correction.
December 11th, 20129:58 pm
Phil Jackson…paging Phil Jackson…Phil…Jackson…
December 11th, 20129:59 pm
no problem i was thinking u got mixed up with the knicksvsnets game
December 11th, 201210:04 pm
I did get mixed up with the BKN/NYK [game] final score[s]. [LOL]
December 11th, 201210:21 pm
I think they are one player away. Now that one player can be John Jenkins at the two, but who knows. I just think all they need is a two guard that can give them a consistent 20 again without disrupting the flow of the game. Josh and Al should never be pulled apart. They are the real core. Teague is not there yet, but very close to being a very good point guard.
December 11th, 201210:22 pm
Blatche started out that game on fire.. bkn couldn’t keep it going.
December 11th, 201210:31 pm
My main concern is Blocked Shots. How many shots are we blocking in the lane???Are we going to challenge shots at the rim??? You have to deter penetration into the lane.
December 11th, 201210:32 pm
“this Viva guy will jump out there with a story on Josh’s play like he was all over it to begin with.”
LOL you must be Rod’s cousin, getting mad cause Al getting props. I have also observed that there is a good on-court chemistry between Al and Josh. Josh seems to have adjusted well to being moved out of the power forward position and Al has been the beneficiary of consistently-brilliant entry passes from Josh.
Thanks again for posting my article.
Rod from College Park
December 11th, 201210:37 pm
“Because the heat have LEBRON JAMES. Apparently the Hawks beating the Clippers, Thunder (without Josh) and Grizzlies wasn’t enough, so you list teams that ESPN tells you are better just because they are in bigger markets. LOL stop talking and go sit in the corner.”
No I actually just listed teams that are good in the eastern conference. You know the conference that we have to get out of to play a team in the west in the championship game.
December 11th, 201210:43 pm
Why would I be mad because Al got props? I gave him props. You need to be focused on Jamal Crawford out here making the high IQ great defensive Kirk Hinrich look terrible.
December 11th, 201211:20 pm
Bulls really are crippled without Rose. Would be a damn shame to lose to them if you are the superstar clips haha.
Highsider thanks for the contribution sir!
December 12th, 201212:32 am
Shot Blocker needed for Hire ASAP!
December 12th, 201212:33 am
“Does [Coach] D’Antoni still have a job?”
A disaster in the making? Hmmmmmm
December 12th, 201212:51 am
Appreciate the article, saved me a google search. Some interesting info the local media should be getting. Nice quotes by King James regarding Josh. Good to see Josh and Ferry have an understanding. Nique had a quote taking a jab at the franchise regarding his free agency case back in the mid 90s. Great read all in all.
December 12th, 20121:35 am
Josh and Al have always had good chemistry.
Josh has always been a great post feeder for Al.
Josh is making more diagonal passes
out of the post area this season ? hmmmmmm ?
`cause Josh is actually posting more this yr.
As Rathbun said: Josh is brutalizing [3`s] in the post.
Josh plays the  when he is in with Zaza and Al, plus Teaguer & Korv.
*[which is our best line-up (+/-), by the way]
Josh would technically play the  when he`s in with,
Teaguer, Korv, and DSteve, plus Al.
*[which is our 2nd best line-up (+/-) ]
Josh is really not playing much different than before:
A bigger difference is:
LD`s mandate to run more pick and roll [from DFerry]
and unloading the albatross, ball monopolizing, Iso-Joe.
our players now can play basketball ! … unfettered !
December 12th, 20122:16 am
I don’t want to alarm anyone, but Josh currently leads the Hawks in 3 point percentage and would be 11th in the league in that category if he had enough attempts to qualify.
December 12th, 20122:30 am
Sample size is always sooooo important. Josh could probably go 0 for the next 15 attempts.
However, everyone says that Josh shoots well in practice, so his mental block, could, some day, subside.
Also, when he shoots in rhythm, his shots are pretty decent, it’s when he hesitates that his shoots those horrible airballs.
December 12th, 20124:53 am
Josh needs to limit his shooting to 3-pointers and shots in the paint (where he’s shooting 59% last I checked). It’s long twos (where he’s top 15 in the league, all positions, in attempts) that keep him out of the All-Star game.
December 12th, 20125:50 am
Not particularly surprised on how Josh and Al are producing together.
Al is benefiting – as many pointed out – from Josh excellent passing and generosity.
This should continue to improve from a “willingness and coordination” point of view but we have to take into consideration that scouting is very important in the nba but with such large number of games and so much travelling, scouting is behind schedule for most of the year and I think that our early season success may be influenced by that: teams have not yet understood where are our weakest and strongest points.
December 12th, 20126:53 am
True about the scouting not having a chance to catch up to these new look Hawks.
How much has Horford’s post game improved since his last full season? Is it going to be hard for teams to scout the Hawks because our players are improving while the team is still learning to play together?
In my opinion, Al has improved. He still gets most of his offense off assists from other players, but I observed last year during the first 11 games before his injury that Al was going inside more and at least attempting to post up, even with his limitations as a back-to-the-basket player.
Now that ball-stopper Joe is out of the picture, you have a team player like Josh Smith constantly looking to set up Horford. Won’t it be ironic if Josh is snubbed again and Horford makes the All-Star team due to numbers he put up thanks primarily to assists from his teammates?
December 12th, 20128:24 am
I don’t see a lot of improvement from Al as far as his back to the basket game, but he is moving better without the ball, and is getting in much better position in the post (deeper). This effort along with the fact that Al’s teammates are delivering the ball on time (as soon as Al is set, the ball is there) are the main reasons Al is seeing more success IMO.
I did notice late against Miami that Bosh was overplaying Al to keep him from going to his sweeping hook (defended him that way all game), and Al finally made the spin move baseline (required a left hand dribble) and converted (although he looked a little mechanical or clumsy doing it / finished with his right hand which is easier to block from that side).
December 12th, 20128:36 am
In the next few days, all the players acquired in the Joe Johnson trade will be eligible to be traded. I hope Ferry moves every piece of any interest to other teams (excluding Horford) to start building for the future. Although, it’s not like we can have much more of a ragtag group than we already have…
December 12th, 20128:41 am
Both Josh and Horford play very well together and YES, Horford does gets most of his points from great passes from Josh but I will say this, IMO, Horford is a better finisher than Josh. What I mean is if the roles were reversed and Horford was giving Josh the nice passes down low, why do I find it hard for Josh to be able to maneuver around the same guys that Horford has to move around to get the bucket? I dont always trust Josh’s jumper in the lane or putbacks when it leaves his hands as much as I trust Horford’s. Just like I dont always trust Horford’s passing ability like I do Josh’s. I think both guys finally knows their role on the team and is playing to their ability and strengths, unlike b4. GO HAWKS!!
December 12th, 20128:45 am
If the Lakers keep this losing streak up, why do I get the feeling that their organization will tank the rest of the season for a lottery pick cause I can’t see Dwight resigning with them after this season just to HAVE to rebuild all over again with 2 old vets (Kobe & Nash) and a rookie newcomer.
December 12th, 20128:46 am
Oh and NOT just OLD vets, but OLD and INJURY PRONE VETS!!
December 12th, 20128:47 am
Al has developed a nice jump hook in the post.
Lets not forget Al feeds Josh as well,
Al averaging over 3 assts per game.
*Josh has stated that he likes to get the ball …
then make his move [in the post] –
he does NOT like to catch it off the cut.
*[r e; Zach Lowe, Grantland]
December 12th, 20128:48 am
Oh wait, do the Lakers have any draft picks after getting Dwight??? Ouch!! Well, now I DEFINITELY know that Dwight will be leaving after this season!
December 12th, 20128:53 am
Hawks need a slasher who can get to the free throw line. It is amazing that how rarely Teague draws fouls. Comparing the athletes on the Hawks to the athletes on the Heat was kinda embarrasing. Their shooting guard, Dwayne Wade, looks like a shooting guard. Our best shooting guard, Lou Williams, looks like a middle schooler next to him.
December 12th, 20129:41 am
Grandad, have you been watching the recent games? I haven’t really noticed an improvement in Al’s hook shot, but I may be missing it. As MsDee says, Al goes to basket strong and I like that. But the hook shot looks same as before to me.
December 12th, 201210:03 am
If Al worked a little harder on his inside game, he would average 20. He misses quite a few up close. Most of the guys on our team are set shooters. Please don’t ask anyone but Lou to shoot over the top. Think about it, with wide open looks, JT0, Josh, Stevenson and Korver can hit that shot.
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