Atlanta Hawks: Horford putting up All-Star numbers

Vivlamore reporting.

ORLANDO – Al Horford is back putting up numbers that made the Hawks center a two-time All-Star.

Horford has six straight double-double games in points and rebounds heading into Wednesday’s division game against the Magic. He has 11 double-doubles in the Hawks’ first 18 games this season. Among centers, only the Lakers’ Dwight Howard has more (12) in the NBA this season.

Horford missed most of last season after tearing his left pectoral muscle 11 games into the year. The injury cost him a chance for a third straight All-Star game. Although he returned for the playoffs, Horford was not 100 percent healthy. He spent the offseason getting back to form.

“I look at (the recent statistics),” Horford said. “I’m happy. I put in a lot of work in the offseason. This is just the fun part of it. In the offseason, nobody sees when you are in the gym, working late, getting in early and lifting to get back to where you need to be. It’s rewarding to see all that work is paying off but it’s early in the year and I know I can get better. And I’m going to keep working toward it.”

Over the past six games, Horford is averaging 18.3 points (48 for 88, 54.5 percent) and 12.2 rebounds. During that stretch he is also averaging 3.3 assists and 1.0 blocks.

For the season, Horford is averaging 16.8 points and 10.2 rebounds. Both statistics are career-highs, better than his two All-Star seasons of 2009-10 and 2010-11.

Horford has scored in double-figures in each game this season. He was named the Eastern Conference Player of the Week for games played Nov. 19-25. The next game started his current double-double streak.

Horford is fifth among centers in scoring and seventh in rebounds in the NBA. This season, the NBA changed the All-Star selection process and will choose from a list of front-court players (centers and forwards combined). Among those combined positions, Horford is 18th in scoring and seventh in rebounds in the league and eighth in scoring and third in rebounds in the Eastern Conference.

In 334 career games, Horford has averaged 13.0 points, 9.5 rebounds and 1.1 blocks with a .537 field-goal percentage. According to Elias Sports Bureau, those numbers place Horford alongside only Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Shaquille O’Neal, Artis Gilmore and Howard and Artis Gilmore with at least those averages.

“He has really done a phenomenal job for us the last couple of weeks and his numbers show it,” Hawks coach Larry Drew said. “I think he is really starting to get completely healthy from the shoulder that kept him out last year. He has been scoring the basketball and rebounding. He’s been really active, active with energy, and that’s helped him.”

Point guard Jeff Teague has been at the center of Horford’s recent success, according to the center. They were two of the five holdovers from last season’s Hawks team but played little together as Teague became a full-time starter due to Horford’s injury.

“I think that at the beginning it took a couple of games to get familiar with this new situation, not only for the new guys but for us (holdovers) as well. I just think that Jeff is starting to figure things out as a point guard – how to find people, when to shoot it himself. He is finding me a lot more now whereas at the beginning of the year we were having a hard time connecting.

“We are playing well off each other. Josh (Smith) and I always play well off each other but my relationship with Jeff has gotten better on the court.”

- Chris Vivlamore

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45 comments Add your comment

Hawks d

December 11th, 2012
4:54 pm

Hawks d

December 11th, 2012
4:55 pm

Thanks for the regular updates c-viv!!

Astro Joe

December 11th, 2012
4:56 pm

I predicted 17/11 for Al before the season started. I doubt that he makes it as I see how his teammates tend to forget him for large stretches of time (while they conduct an in-game 3-point shooting contest). The team is so much better when he and Josh are the focal points. Not necessarily the guys taking allof the shots but the players the offense runs through. Al is averaging more assists than i expected (admittedly fueld in part by finding those open and happy jump-shooting teammates).

Live by the 3 and die by the 3.

Grandad

December 11th, 2012
4:57 pm

MsDee

December 11th, 2012
4:58 pm

Now THAT”S what im talking about Mr. Al Horford!!

Grandad

December 11th, 2012
4:59 pm

I thought I had a shot at bein` 1st,
so I went with my shortest post ever.

Jae Evolution

December 11th, 2012
5:01 pm

FTPB

“I never said one time that I wanted to leave Atlanta,’’ Smith, whose surprising Hawks (12-6) play Wednesday at Orlando, said in an interview with FOX Sports Florida while in Miami for Monday’s 101-92 loss to the Heat. “It was always rumors and things. The moves that they made (last summer) and the success that we’re having, I am excited about what is going with this organization and I am considering strongly staying here. I haven’t ever had any thoughts that I wanted to leave.’’

Grandad

December 11th, 2012
5:06 pm

I saw on a p r e v i o u s post
where `Rod f CP` was complaining that someone had taken
what he said out of context
and he was having to go back and explain
what he “exactly” had said.

Irony is a b i t c h sometimes, ain`t it.

ed

December 11th, 2012
5:18 pm

finally playing big boy ball and not complaining about his size……World………..we may have just found our franchise center but he needs to work on his post game and defense a little more

Slimjr

December 11th, 2012
5:19 pm

C-viv, hows that interior defense holding up with Mr. Allstar at the 5…

If you notice the Sea parted ways multiple times..

The guard play sucked and the bigs were invisible on defense….Yawn.

Memo to Danny: your house will stay empty with this squad as presently configured..

You have a lot of work to do..GET GOING!!!

Grandad

December 11th, 2012
5:31 pm

LD has a great record both this yr and the past;
considering circumstances,
but dad-gum … he does the most peculier things.

1. Ivan – `nuff said
2. JJenkins – Teaguer re-dux only worse
3. Line-up juggling – it constipates the building of chemistry
4. his ” timidity ” – it`s as if, in his mind, he`s still only an asst coach
5 Tell us “YOUR” philosophy, tell us what “YOU” really believe in,
tell us what “YOU” are all about as a coach, what is “YOUR” core belief,
not what you think Danny wants to hear, but “YOU”;;
not some made up rig-a-ma-roll [coach speak] ?

Bertie

December 11th, 2012
5:33 pm

Agree with Astro, this team is deadly when the offense runs through Al and Josh.

Grandad

December 11th, 2012
5:35 pm

Slim the jr

If LBJ drives … the sea may as well part waves;
if `n the defense ain`t outside the arc
someone`s gonna be close enough to get tagged
with a foul.

Buddy Grizzard

December 11th, 2012
5:50 pm

Insert Horford hate here!

The Truth

December 11th, 2012
5:58 pm

“In 334 career games, Horford has averaged 13.0 points, 9.5 rebounds and 1.1 blocks with a .537 field-goal percentage. According to Elias Sports Bureau, those numbers place Horford alongside only Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Shaquille O’Neal, Artis Gilmore and Howard and Artis Gilmore with at least those averages.”

With these kinds of props along with Horford modest contract, it would seem Horford is headed to become a mainstay in the ATL. But I’m surprises after only playing 18 games; writers are focus on this kind of stuff. The Hawks have barely played over 20% of its schedule and Horford is being recognized as though it was near the all-star break which is probably 20+ games away. With the Hawks current record at 12-6, a lot could change between then and now given a tougher schedule ahead; teams we don’t match-up well with, injuries, etc, who knows what happen.

We could call this premature-eject culat!on if half-empty played out

Buddy Grizzard

December 11th, 2012
6:04 pm

“So based on Buddy Grizzard logic, Jeff Teague is better than Kyrie Irving, and Joakim Noah is better than Kevin Love. Might well be the dumbest post ever on this blog.”

So you’re saying Morrow is as much better than Korver is Love is better than Noah? And you thought my post was dumb? When two players have nearly identical career stats, you look at which player has contributed to teams that have made the playoffs and which player has contributed to teams that just needed someone to burn possessions on the way to the lottery.

grip

December 11th, 2012
6:09 pm

Enjoy AL and quit complaining……

Rod from College Park

December 11th, 2012
6:21 pm

“So you’re saying Morrow is as much better than Korver is Love is better than Noah? And you thought my post was dumb? When two players have nearly identical career stats, you look at which player has contributed to teams that have made the playoffs and which player has contributed to teams that just needed someone to burn possessions on the way to the lottery.”

No that is not what I’m saying. I am saying that Morrow shoots a better percentage from that field for his career than Korver, I am saying that Morrow has been a better 3 point shooter for his career than Korver ,and I am syaing that Morrow can do the same things for this team that Korver does if LD uses him the same way. You are saying that because Morrow played for teams that were not playoff teams, that it somehow means that his shooting percentages from 3 and from the field which are better than Korver’s for his career, mean nothing because he was on bad teams. A three pointer in Golden State counts the same amount of points as one in Chicago.

keith

December 11th, 2012
6:28 pm

Al Horford is flat out Ballin this season. Now could be a time to move him for a player plus a draft pick.
Hoopshype.com just reported that Toronto is shopping Andrea Bargnani right now, however, have found no suitors? How about Horford straight up for Bargnani???

Rod from College Park

December 11th, 2012
6:28 pm

My post from Sunday after the Memphis game:

“Rod from College Park

December 9th, 2012
11:48 am
It’s still early guys. LOL. One good win or one bad loss, and opinions on the blog change dramatically.”

It’s funny no one missed Kyle Korver after that game. LOL

Just Joe

December 11th, 2012
6:32 pm

Don’t look now, but Damion James is shooting 42% from 3 in the dleague. 12 pts, 7 rebs, 2 steals, and 2.6 turnovers (problem #1) in 25 minutes per game…….but problem #2 is 31% from the field!!!

I don’t know what kind of stats you can get on the dleague, but this guy must be taking a ton of long 2’s. It would be nice to see this kid model his game after Stevenson. Defend…rebound…and camp out behind the 3-pt line (assuming he can keep shooting 40%+). He could make himself in to a nice role player. Seems like a good, hard working kid. I hope he does well.

Rod from College Park

December 11th, 2012
6:32 pm

Props to Al. He is playing like I always knew he could. He is playing like an All Star so far this year, but lets remember it is still early. Consistency is the key. If we looked at the stats so far this year we could come to the conclusion that Al is better than Dwight Howard..LOL. My eyes tell me otherwise.

keith

December 11th, 2012
6:33 pm

Breaking News: Raptors shopping Andrea Bargnani.

I would hope General Manager Ferry take a long look at Andrea Bargnani…This guy can defend and flat out shoot the Basketball!!! Will be a nice addition to our team!!!

The Rock Obama

December 11th, 2012
6:37 pm

Slimjr complains about the interior defense, yet the Hawks are 6th in pts allowed, 6th in defensive rating, and until Monday’s loss, the Hawks had not allowed any team to shoot over 50% for the game.

The Rock Obama

December 11th, 2012
6:39 pm

Wait, did someone say Bargnani can defend? LMAO…

Nobody wants that guy.

keith

December 11th, 2012
6:43 pm

Bargnani averages 16 points per game this season. He is 27 years old. 7″0″ 250lbs. This guy can average 20pts per night easily. Draftexpress.com list his pre-draft height as a legit 7″0″ He could be our stretch “5′ for the next 6 years???

Bernie Matt

December 11th, 2012
6:46 pm

Al is definitely finishing plays strong and deserves consideration again this year, but I swear the media’s code of silence is stronger than the mafia’s. Every since draft day and the so called guru (Jay Bilas) trashed Josh before ever playing a game, you people in the media are scared to come out and say this guy is a GREAT player! Most of Al’s finishes come courtesy of Josh’s dishes, and the overall floor game as far as points, rebounds, assists, blocks, steals, and overall ability to guard the ball, at this point is only second to Lebron in this league. No wonder the guy wants out of town, he was held back by Joe’s presence and now that he’s clearly leading this team, his own home town media refuses to acknowledge his ascendence to one of the leagues best players! What a joke the media in this town is!

keith

December 11th, 2012
6:48 pm

Bargnani is a poor man’s Dirk Nowitzki. You can not shut this guy down. Bargnani would be an upgrade..

Just Joe

December 11th, 2012
6:48 pm

Keith…Bargnani is owed $11M and $12M in the next two seasons (earning $10M this year). I wouldn’t mind mixing the guy in with Josh, Al, ZaZa, and Ivan for extra offense, but I don’t think Ferry is willing to give up the flexibility going in to the offseason.

Rod from College Park

December 11th, 2012
6:49 pm

“Slimjr complains about the interior defense, yet the Hawks are 6th in pts allowed, 6th in defensive rating, and until Monday’s loss, the Hawks had not allowed any team to shoot over 50% for the game.”

Not speaking for Slimjr, but I’m sure Slimjr understands that it is very early in the season to be worried about defensive ratings. That defensive rating sure did not help us prevent Miami from shooting close to 60% for the game. Oh, Im sorry, I forgot Kyle Korver did not play, I’m sure our defense would have been much better with him in the game last night. SMH. When you play the Charlottes, Wizards, and teams of that level it tends to help your defensive rating. Let’s wait until we see teams in the east like the Knicks, Boston, Philly to determine what a great defensive team we are.

Bernie Matt

December 11th, 2012
6:52 pm

AJC needs to bring in a new Hawks beat writer. This guy Viva-whatever is more off the same from the other guy that was here.

keith

December 11th, 2012
6:52 pm

Just Joe
December 11th, 2012
6:48 pm

If you swap Al for Bargnani, you will not lose any flexibility….

keith

December 11th, 2012
6:56 pm

IMO, this is an Outstanding Blog. Perhaps we could use more educated and sophisticated bloggers who know how to use spell check….

Rod from College Park

December 11th, 2012
6:56 pm

“Most of Al’s finishes come courtesy of Josh’s dishes, and the overall floor game as far as points, rebounds, assists, blocks, steals, and overall ability to guard the ball, at this point is only second to Lebron in this league.”

Interesting to know that someone else notices this. Have not seen our resdent stat geek (Northcyde) in a while. I would be interested to know what percentage of Al’s point come from Josh assist. They seem to be developing much better chemistry this year.

Bernie Matt

December 11th, 2012
6:56 pm

I guarantee as soon as one of the national guys salutes Josh, this Viva guy will jump out there with a story on Josh’s play like he was all over it to begin with. Where does the AJC find these guys! The burger king school of sports journalist!

I MUS WRITE

December 11th, 2012
6:59 pm

Props to Jump Shot Al, Hes having a nice season so far. That post game still needs work but Al is stepping up so far. Keith- Bargnani for Al straight up is not a good trade. bargnaniand dense doesnt belong in the same sentence…Hes soft….We need a big that rebounds and defends the paint

Just Joe

December 11th, 2012
7:51 pm

82games through 12/9/12 says that Al has been assisted on 76% of his field goals. For comparison, Josh is 59%. Tyson Chandler is 65%. Chris Bosh is 74%. Pau Gasol is 71%.

Let’s give Al some props for converting a lot of those opportunities though. Shoots 70%+ at the basket. Josh is 61%. Chandler is almost 73%. Bosh is 68%. Gasol is 55%.

High-sider

December 11th, 2012
8:06 pm

@Rod from College Park

“Interesting to know that someone else notices this. Have not seen our [resident]* stat geek (Northcyde) in a while. I would be interested to know what percentage of Al’s point come from Josh assist. They seem to be developing much better chemistry this year.” – Rod from College Park @6:56pm, 12/11/2012

He’s [northcyde] probably going over Marvin Williams’ “Per 36 Minutes” stats, “Per 48 Minutes” stats, PER, +/- stats, utilization/usage rates and other sports analytics. [LOL]

http://www.nba.com/advancedstats/player.html#Marvin-Williams|101107;year=201213;season=r

The Rock Obama

December 11th, 2012
8:11 pm

“Let’s wait until we see teams in the east like the Knicks, Boston, Philly to determine what a great defensive team we are.”

Because the heat have LEBRON JAMES. Apparently the Hawks beating the Clippers, Thunder (without Josh) and Grizzlies wasn’t enough, so you list teams that ESPN tells you are better just because they are in bigger markets. LOL stop talking and go sit in the corner.

Brent

December 11th, 2012
8:15 pm

I guarantee this blog would be all props if Josh was the one being highlighted for All Star numbers. You idiots in Atlanta have a damn good player in Al and hate on him because he doesn’t dunk like Josh The Underachiever.

Brent

December 11th, 2012
8:19 pm

“Props to Jump Shot Al, Hes having a nice season so far. That post game still needs work”

Same could be said for Jump Shot Josh, who was a non factor for the first few weeks of the season. Al Teague and Lou were holding down the fort while Josh was finding himself.

High-sider

December 11th, 2012
8:26 pm

@Brent

Are you Brent ["Bones" Barry]?

O'Brien

December 11th, 2012
8:39 pm

What if the Hawks beat the Knicks 110-102. Will they get props despite giving up 102 pts?

DawgNole

December 11th, 2012
8:51 pm

keith
December 11th, 2012
6:56 pm

IMO, this is an Outstanding Blog. Perhaps we could use more educated and sophisticated bloggers who know how to use spell check….
____________________

You mean you expect him to be able to correctly spell a big word like “of”?

sam'l

December 11th, 2012
8:59 pm

The point would be how to beat Miami. How to defend…..how to get more fast break points. how to get the calls…..how NOT to take jump shots……

and then when we beat Miami most of the above (meaning what is in this blog) will take care of itself.