Atlanta Hawks: Jenkins on way back; Korver awaiting birth of child
Vivlamore reporting from Hawks shoot-around.
As I tweeted first (got to follow me on Twitter!) this morning, the Hawks will bring rookie John Jenkins back from the NBA Development League today after a two-game stint. They are hopeful that he arrives in time for tonight’s game against the Nuggets.
Jenkins scored a game-high 29 points for the Bakersfield Jam Tuesday night in a win over the Los Angeles D-Fenders. He was 10 of 21 from the field with four rebounds and three assists in 37 minutes.
In his two games, Jenkins combined for 51 points, seven rebounds, six assists and three steals.
“That is who John is,” Hawks coach Larry Drew said Wednesday morning. “In looking at the stat sheet, John can score. He was a scorer in college. He can score the basketball. I think both games were really good for him just from the psyche of playing, playing competitive and getting into some type of a rhythm.”
Mike Scott did not play Tuesday due to an illness and will remain in the D-League. The Hawks want the rookie to get healthy and then play in a few more games before making a decision whether to return him the NBA.
In other news:
* Kyle Korver is not with the team as he and his wife are expecting the birth of their first child.
Korver, who has been out with back spasms, left before practice Tuesday upon getting the news that his wife was in labor. The couple was in the hospital as of Wednesday morning. I will update with any news on the arrival of a new shooting guard.
* DeShawn Stevenson, who left Tuesday’s practice after taking an elbow to the head, will play tonight. He was a full participant in the team’s shoot-around.
* Drew said he has yet to make up his mind on a starting lineup against the Nuggets. In the decision to go big or small, Drew said he hasn’t decided if Devin Harris will take Korver’s spot at shooting guard.
“We looked at a couple different lineups during shoot-around,” Drew said. “(I) haven’t decided between big and small lineup. Looking that them, they do start a big lineup. It’s something we’ll talk more about this afternoon.”
* Today is Josh Smith’s 27th birthday. In a stat courtesy of the Hawks’ public relations department, Smith has averaged 15.1 points, 7.9 rebounds, 3.1 assists, 2.2 blocks and 1.3 steals in his 613 career games. According to Elias Sports Bureau, Smith is the only player in NBA history to have career averages of over 15.0 points. 7.0 rebounds, 3.0 assists, 2.0 blocks and 1.0 steals. The league did not begin keeping block and steal statistics until the early-1970s.
* I asked Drew about the team’s poor rebounding numbers that I detailed yesterday. The coach said he is concerned by the statistic.
“When you talk about rebounding, first of all rebounding is dirty work,” Drew said. “It’s just a matter of getting your body on people and just being relentless in pursuing the basketball. It’s not just with our big guys, it’s our perimeters as well. We are going to have to be better in that area. It’s a matter of making a conscious effort of boxing out and then pursing the basketball, coming up with loose balls, going after long rebounds. This Denver team, when you watch them play, they have guys who are just relentless in going to the glass.”
* The Nuggets begin a five-game road trip against the Hawks. When the trip is over, Denver will have played 17 of their first 23 games on the road.
* A reminder that tonight’s game is an 8 p.m. start and will be broadcast by ESPN.
- Chris Vivlamore
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104 comments Add your comment
hot.trod.87
December 5th, 2012
11:54 am
Let’s go Hawks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rod from College Park
December 5th, 2012
12:08 pm
Little Ray,
“If that’s the case, then somebody reset the records. Bill Wennington, James Edwards, Bill Cartwright, and Luc Longley deserve some love….”
Last I checked none of these guy were the best centers of their era’s, and none came close to being Defensive MVP’s of the league.
“Let’s be honest here. Dwight is never going to have the impact Shaq did. Maybe he’ll be good enough to “help” Kobe win another ring or two. Maybe not. Dwight has not dominated the way Shaq did. As Najeh stated, the offense just isn’t there.”
What’s you point. No one ever said he would have that kind of impact. Simply said he was a better defender and a better rebounder than Shaq was, and also that he was better from the free throw line.
“True, we’ve yet to see him play with another bonafide superstar. Shaq brought rings to L.A. and Miami. Dwight isn’t going to bring a ring to L.A. Last I looked, they were able to win one with Bynum’s gimpy and disinterested a$$.”
Shaq never won a ring until he got to LA in a proven system (the triangle), with another superstar and a proven coach. He went to the finals with his Orlando team and lost, which was much better than the Orlando team that Dwight Howard took to the finals and lost with.
“Shaq = HOFer. Dwight = somebody who would have gotten his lunch eaten on a daily basis if he’d have to deal with Mourning, Ewing, Olajuwon, etc. Not to mention Shaq in his prime. OH, that would have been ugly.”
If Dwight continues on the pace he is on, he will easily be a first ballot HOFer no matter what you think. I very seriously doubt that Alonzo Morning or even Pat Ewing would eat Dwight Howard’s lunch. He would do the same thing to them that he does to everyone else. Shaq and Hakeem would have done well against him, but he would probably be the best defensive big that either of them played against.
kuhndog
December 5th, 2012
12:12 pm
National TV time to man up and put a good showing on for the country. Denver is no push over, with JT pushing it and smoove and Horford in the paint we should do just fine of course ZAZA in the middle against MCGee. I would like to see more Ivan too. Lets give some time to John J tonight, he needs to be in the rook. hunt.
Rod from College Park
December 5th, 2012
12:13 pm
“Turn on the Lakers game right now Melvin, the guy is only viable for 3 quarters in the fourth he is absolutely a martyr.”
How soon we all forget. LOL. You do realize that what they did fouling him is called the Hack a Shaq right. Dwight is struggling at the line now. It is what it is. So did Shaq. Shaq was worse. Good coaches now how to adjust.
cdog
December 5th, 2012
12:17 pm
john jenkins would be playing for any other team except the atlanta hawks because of an inept coach in larry drew. this kid has shown he can play and has the talent to be a great player on the nba level players like deshawn stevenson can’t hold a candle to him but in drew’s system, he gets lost. you can’t learn by sitting on the bench.he needs to play jenkins.he can shoot better than most of the players on the team plus he can defend.hopefully, drew won’t let him get lost in the shuffle and lose his talents and confidence
MsDee
December 5th, 2012
12:25 pm
I think the reason Ferry has bought back Jenkins is because he has seen enough in 2 games to see that he should be on the NBA court instead of the D-league’s court!! Even with Korver still being out, we still have Harris, Stevenson, Lou, & Morrow ahead of him, so why bring him back if not to play him?? I think Ferry informed Drew to play the kid some min tonight. Get him out there to see if his shots will continue to fall like they have the past two d-league games. I think thats a smart move by Ferry, IF indeed he said these things.
Rod from College Park
December 5th, 2012
12:28 pm
“‘Dwight may be a slightly better defender and rebounder than Shaq (debatable but I can see the argument). But what is not debatable is that Shaq was MILES ahead of Dwight as an offensive player.”
After 8 years:
Dwight Howard: 1344 Blocks, 8072 rebounds, 3 defensive player of the year awards
Shaq: 1436 blocks, 6615 Rebounds
It really is not debatable. The only statement that was made in comparison of the two guys is that Dwight was a better defensive player and rebounder than Shaq, and a better free throw shooter. Shaq was the more dominant, and better offensive player no question.
MsDee
December 5th, 2012
12:29 pm
Could Ferry be in some kind of works to maybe offer up Harris, Zaza, & Petro(being a throw-in) for Pau Gasol?? I know that would NOT be a smart move considering the fact that Zaza is our only REAL center but stranger things has happened!!
MsDee
December 5th, 2012
12:31 pm
That move will make room for 2 more available spots bring back Damion James and giving Jenkins a spot in the rotation.
Im TRULY just speculating!!
Astro Joe
December 5th, 2012
12:37 pm
Congrats to Korver. He will definitely be looking for a long-term contract now that he has a family.
Section 303
December 5th, 2012
12:40 pm
Am I wrong on this….didn’t Jenkins and Scott have to take a bit of a pay cut because of their D-League stints? I thought that was part of the new CBA.
Good games by Jenkins. I hope bringing him back up means he is going to get some minutes. Otherwise, what’s the point? He’s not going to develope just sitting and watching. He’s going to need minutes. But, I’m still not sure who to sit. Harris, Marrow, Williams, Stephenson…everyone is playing well! Playing Jenkins will cut someone’s time.
Hawks_4_Life
December 5th, 2012
12:43 pm
The term rebound game applies here in more ways than one. In other news, HAWKS ALL DAY.
Rod from College Park
December 5th, 2012
12:45 pm
doc,
“d12 is a fake. he is not what he represents himself to be. superman he aint only a tat to suggest it and no force to back it up.”
What is he a fake at? Is not not the best center of this era? What’s fake about that?
“to compare shaq’s total blks for a career against d12’s first five years is a stretch. go back and see that shaq’s nimbers for the first 9 years are favorable to if not exceeding d12’s in blocks or in every category including “i am the man” factor which d12 continues to lack. isnt he now now saying he lacks something once again though he steps onto the laker court? he can only be happy if he ends up paired with lbj who has proven himself in a way d12 isnt even trying to do.”
After 8 years:
Dwight Howard: 1344 Blocks, 8072 rebounds, 3 defensive player of the year awards
Shaq: 1436 blocks, 6615 Rebounds
Blocks look very comparable, Rebounds are not close. One guy has won 3 defensive player of the year awards the other never won any.
“when shaq was on the floor you knew where he was, when d12 is on the floor it is another game. yes d12 racks up stats but i dont see him dominating anything the way shaq once did. i always knew where shaq was, d 12 gets lost in the flow sometimes and it is getting worse. d12 nimbers over a career, i suggest, will not exceed shaq’s though he plays in a far different climate for centers.”
You don’t see d12 dominating the game? I guess you must have missed that playoff series against the Hawks then when our brilliant coach refused to double him. Or I guess you missed when he led his team to the NBA finals with the next best player being Hedo Turkaloo. The memory of some on this blog is comical.
If it becomes a era thing, and I’m a guy who would represent the 90’s era. I would take a team of Howard, Duncan (or KG), Lebron, Kobe, and CP3, and suit up against in era’s top 5 guys and feel very confident.
Samurai Squirrel
December 5th, 2012
12:46 pm
Primetime game = Josh shooting 400 times (300 of them from 1-2 feet inside the 3 point line), trying to start the fast break, and tons of nose/lip touching in disgust…wait, that is every game!!
Jay Dubu
December 5th, 2012
12:53 pm
I hope that JJ will get some playing time. Other 1st year (rookie) players are getting time on the florr with other teams, so why not JJ?
hot.trod.87
December 5th, 2012
12:53 pm
Shaq with Penny couldn’t do what Dwight with Jameer could do and that is take his team to the finals WITH ORLANDO. Shaq has had defenders near him as well, Glen Rice, Rick Fox, Josh Salley, Horace Grant, etc play more defense than the Magic team ( with the exception of Pietrus) and the Lakers team. Noone on that team plays defense with a coach that runs offense and no defense. Also Shaq has had the pleasure of being under Phil Jackson and Pat Riley. Not far to compare the 2 when Dwight had less and did better than Shaq.
Jay Dubu
December 5th, 2012
12:59 pm
Jenkins is supposed to be part of the Hawks’ future. The players that are getting the minutes in front of him, are with the Hawks for the short term.
Have to get him some burn, and let him learn and develop.
Astro Joe
December 5th, 2012
1:02 pm
Shaq with Penny couldn’t do what Dwight with Jameer could do and that is take his team to the finals WITH ORLANDO.
Shaq went to the Finals in his rookie season with the Magic. Lost to the Rockets (Hakeem).
Brazilian_Hawk
December 5th, 2012
1:07 pm
LOL SS, so true.
Samurai Squirrel
December 5th, 2012
1:10 pm
Are you guys still discussing Shaq versus Dwight Howard? Shaq was more physical and an offensive force, while Howard is a defensive stopper who can put back misses (as you can tell, I am not a huge Howard fan). I’d rather have Shaq on my team any day of the week (and twice on Sunday) due to his size, strength, and personality.
Shaq was a big tough man, Howard is a big man trying to act tough.
vava74
December 5th, 2012
1:11 pm
Zaza is not a particularly good match up against guys like McGee.
Zaza plays better against opponents with more girth that hops (Koufos).
Zaza is 6′11 with a wingspan on or around 7′ and a 5” vertical.
McGee is 7′0” with a 7′6½” wingspan and a 31½-inch vertical.
Buddy Grizzard
December 5th, 2012
1:20 pm
C-Viv, could you ask LD if he pays attention to +/- numbers?
http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusminus/plusminus_sort.jsp?pcomb=1&season=22012&split=9&team=Hawks
Ivan Johnson is in the top 6 with the big lineup starting 5 among the only Hawks with double digit positive aggregate +/- for the season. Please ask LD if he was aware
tidog
December 5th, 2012
1:28 pm
Jenkins is not the problem and he has never been the problem. Coach Drew and his antiquated way of playing rookies is the problem. The NBA has a way of weeding out those players that don’t belong there. Jenkins don’t need the help of coach showing him the door out of the league.
vava74
December 5th, 2012
1:32 pm
JJ2 should start tonight, even coming directly from the plane.
He is hot and probably had to fly with a fire blanket wrapped around his hands.
Jayrock
December 5th, 2012
2:01 pm
Well its hard on any coach if you have 5 people in one position…..thats on ferry if ask me. Don’t draft Jenkins and then get 3 more people thats just like him! lol Most teams draft a person in a position they need or not more then 3 or 2 people ahead of them for that matter.
Astro Joe
December 5th, 2012
2:18 pm
People are being short-sighted regarding Jenkins. He will get his time (likely after the trade deadline).
As for now, DeShawn is the team’s best perimeter defender and is shooting 40% from 3. Korver is a vocal leader who has knocked down several importnat shots in the early season and is shooting 42% from 3. Morrow hasn’t received consistent playing time while shooting over 50% from 3 and showing an ability to make contested mid-range shots. And Lou Williams is one of the team’s leading scorers and a viable SMOY candidate (and is a personal friend of Josh Smith which means something to some people).
So where is LD supposed to play a rookie SG? Again, be patient. Jenkins was NOT likely drafted to contribute in the first 3-4 months of his rookie year. Once Korver is healthy and able to fully re-join the team, I hope they send Jenkins back to the D-League for him to continue to shine over there.
Just Joe
December 5th, 2012
2:24 pm
When Jenkins was drafted, our roster was Teague, Joe, Marvin, Josh, Al & ZaZa. We needed a guard.
The Joe & Marvin trades were not about the players in return. It was about the contracts in return.
Ferry has to try to turn some of these expiring contracts in to draft picks. That’s hard to do if the players attached to those contracts aren’t getting playing time. Jenkins will likely have plenty of opportunities to play after the trade deadline.
There is a real possibility that this team could end the season with less talent/depth than they started with…and still make the playoffs.
Just Joe
December 5th, 2012
2:27 pm
Start Teague, Morrow, Smith, Horford, and Pachulia.
2nd unit of Harris, LouWill, Stevenson, and Ivan Johnson.
Nate ArchiBALL
December 5th, 2012
2:52 pm
Today is Josh Smith’s 27th birthday. In a stat courtesy of the Hawks’ public relations department, Smith has averaged 15.1 points, 7.9 rebounds, 3.1 assists, 2.2 blocks and 1.3 steals in his 613 career games. According to Elias Sports Bureau, Smith is the only player in NBA history to have career averages of over 15.0 points. 7.0 rebounds, 3.0 assists, 2.0 blocks and 1.0 steals. The league did not begin keeping block and steal statistics until the early-1970s.
MsDee
December 5th, 2012
2:53 pm
Great points Astro Joe and Just Joe (are u guys the same person??) concerning Jenkins, but why bring him back from d-league if it’s that cut n dry concerning the other players u mentioned being ahead of him?? I mean, really! Jenkins was playing great there while getting plenty of playing time. We still have Stevenson, Harris, Morrow, & Lou ready to play while Korver is with his wife, so again. The Joe’s, why bring him back????
Hawks_4_Life
December 5th, 2012
3:02 pm
Below is an article on ESPN insider.
Hawks_4_Life
December 5th, 2012
3:04 pm
Blog monster is preventing me from posting it
Rod from College Park
December 5th, 2012
3:07 pm
“I’d rather have Shaq on my team any day of the week (and twice on Sunday) due to his size, strength, and personality.”
That’s not the argument.
MattP
December 5th, 2012
3:09 pm
MsDee,
They probably brought him back because of missing Korver and Stevenson taking that blow to the head in practice. Losing Korver means the Hawks needed another shooter, and Stevenson might not play that many minutes depending on how much better he feels.
Samurai Squirrel
December 5th, 2012
3:10 pm
I understand that isn’t the argument. I am just stating my opinion.
Astro Joe
December 5th, 2012
3:13 pm
MsDee, I suspect that Jenkins is coming back to provide SG depth if Korver is still dealing with back problems. I read the story that he is not with the team due to the birth of his baby but I have not yet read anything that says that he is actually healthy enough to play. And with DeShawn’s inability to play back-to-back games, the Hawks need that extra depth in case an in-game injury/ejection happens. I wouldn’t expect JJ2 to get time ahead of a healthy DeShawn, LouWill and Morrow tonight. But I won’t be mad if he does.
W.R. Terrell
December 5th, 2012
3:14 pm
The “Smoove” should average 10 rebounds a game but he will never do that because he lives at the 3 point line. Tonight the HAWKS could be trounced by 30 if those outside shots the “Smoove” is hoisting up are not dropping. He scored 25 against the Cavaliers and we lost, I wonder why. Rebounds, blocked shots and scoring is the “Smooves” forte. When the HAWKS get more then a 7 point lead watch how it dissipates quickly if the “Smooves” lauchhing is not productive, it tends to kill a rally. I’m not high on this guy, I think he hurts more then help. Time has given the facts and I for one am looking for a trade, the HAWKS would be better off as a cohesive group losing then ambiguous wins.
Astro Joe
December 5th, 2012
3:19 pm
Sorry, didn’t see MattP’s response at 3:09. What he said.
ILL-Logical
December 5th, 2012
3:23 pm
Happy Birthday Josh! And continued success both in your basketball and after basketball careers.
Slimjr
December 5th, 2012
3:25 pm
A trap game tonight perhaps and on ESPN? Hmmmmm
Rod from College Park dropping step back 3’s like free throws!!!! Bang!
Sautee
December 5th, 2012
3:29 pm
Rod from College Park dropping step back 3’s like free throws!!!! Bang!
Yeah, but NOT like Dwight’s free throws.
Slimjr
December 5th, 2012
3:29 pm
It’s fascinating how his [Fan Club] downgrades D12’s game. Sorta like they do with Josh? Is there some sort of connection? Hmmmmm
Grandad
December 5th, 2012
3:42 pm
JJenkins was, is, and can play [or shoot] …
which is what he does.
1st round pick:
Why has he [not] been playing ?
-answer-
LD / Wdsn – philosophy toward rookies.
flash-back
Last season, Kawhi Leonard = integral part of SASpurs. [rookie]
If I`m not mistaken;
the basket in the D-League is 10 ft high,
an open shot is an open shot,
a 16 footer is a 16 footer, a 20 footer is a 20 footer,
a 23 footer is a 23 footer, and so on & on & on … ad infinitum …
Hell Fire and Brimstone, let the kid Play !
Grandad
December 5th, 2012
3:51 pm
R.f C.P.
Faux Superman;
has had the advantage of never playing against True Centers.
There are no True Centers anymore.
His stats are bogus compared to the Legends;
who face another True Big Man every nite !
____________________________________________
Not to mention:
a cetain someone who is pumped up on steroids.
* Not superman, Steroidman
* Can`t play in Olympics ? hmmmmmmmm
* Mysterious back inj:
spinal column can`t handle increased muscle mass
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Grandad
December 5th, 2012
3:53 pm
who face[d] another True Big Man every nite !
* [d]
should have said *faced instead of *face
High-sider
December 5th, 2012
3:54 pm
Jamal Crawford is currently second in FT shooting % [0.945].
http://www.nba.com/statistics/index.html
High-sider
December 5th, 2012
3:59 pm
I don’t understand how you Atlanta Hawks fans and Atlantans [Altanta residents] continuously hate on NBA players who were born and/or raised in the Atlanta-metro area. I just don’t get it.
Joey
December 5th, 2012
4:07 pm
Congrats Josh!
Bring on Jenkins and his hot hand.
Slimjr
December 5th, 2012
4:12 pm
High-sider, maybe its something in the water down here! hahahahah
Grandad
December 5th, 2012
4:12 pm
High-sider
” Atlanta Hawks fans and Atlantans [Altanta residents]
continuously hate on NBA players who were born and/or raised
in the Atlanta-metro area ”
What makes you come to that conclusion ?
High-sider
December 5th, 2012
4:26 pm
Grandad,
Look at how y’all are dissin’ Dwight Howard [sic]. He’s the best center in the league.
Grandad
December 5th, 2012
4:29 pm
Many Atlantans or Georgians never had the opportunity
to play for the Home Team:
Kenny Walker, Norm Nixon, “Stinger” (is not hated),
others; Shandon Anderson, [Jae Crowder] would be a fan favorite,
Pervis Ellison, [Derrick Favors] are you kidding me,
Walt Frazier [right] we would have hated him,
the Grant brothers, Horace & Harvey, Dale Davis,
Chris Singleton (I would love to have him),
plus Al Thornton & Charlie Ward;
just a small sampling.
H S … your previous statement reeked of hyperbole.
Eric
December 5th, 2012
4:32 pm
The basketball IQ of some of the people responding to this blog kills me. The guys ahead of Jenkins are all proven players in this league Harris is a former 20+ all-star, Morrow is one of the best 3 pt shooters in this league, Stevenson is a champion and a lock -down defensive player. Drew is doing a excellent job, no one expected the Hawks to be the best defensive team in the league at any point of this season.
Rod from College Park
December 5th, 2012
4:33 pm
“I don’t understand how you Atlanta Hawks fans and Atlantans [Altanta residents] continuously hate on NBA players who were born and/or raised in the Atlanta-metro area. I just don’t get it.
Because its a bunch of haters and transplants down here. None of these guys grew up in Atlanta. Most are fat lazy old men who never played an organized game of sports in their life. Thus we get the Josh is lazy and dumb, Dwight Howard is a fake big man comments. It’s really comical. Now Dwight is on steroids. LOL. Dwight Howard with all his faults offensively would be a dominant big in any era because he is a great rebounder, and he is a great defensive player. His offensive game needs work, but if you think Rick Smits, Patrick Ewing and Arvedis Sabonis played defense like Dwight Howard, then you are obviously smoking something.
Eric
December 5th, 2012
4:36 pm
Most Atlantans hate Atlantans, the transplants love our teams!!! I know cause I grew up with these fools.
Slimjr
December 5th, 2012
4:36 pm
D12 would have been just fine playing against Pat, Morning and others…
Slimjr
December 5th, 2012
4:40 pm
Larry Drew is 96-69 as head coach of the Hawks…hmmmmmmm
30-10
12-4
11-1…. Playoffs?
Slimjr
December 5th, 2012
4:43 pm
Rod, do you remember the [Flops] that Shaq started producing once he started trying to defend the rookie D12 head to head? Memory short circuiting for some? Perhaps.. lol
Rod from College Park
December 5th, 2012
4:48 pm
It’s just like I hear all these people who grew up around here praising Jordan. Screw Jordan, and Screw the Bulls. I grew up in Atlanta, hated Jordan growing up because he got every call, and cried on the court more than Josh if the call did not go his way. I respected his game and realize that he is one of the best players ever, but I was a Nique fan. If the Hawks were not winning screw Boston, Detroit, Cleveland and the Bulls. I would never be caught dead in any of those teams clothing unless I was playing for them professionally. Fans here don’t understand what it means to be a fan. People praising the Georgia Bulldogs for playing a good game last week. LOL. They lost. Worried about the Falcons regular season record. I could care less about the regular season record, win in the playoffs. Talking about the Hawks regular seasosn record last year, and losing in the first round. A bunch of losers, and fans that accept losers. That is what Atlanta has become.
Rod from College Park
December 5th, 2012
4:55 pm
“Rod, do you remember the [Flops] that Shaq started producing once he started trying to defend the rookie D12 head to head? Memory short circuiting for some? Perhaps.. lol”
I sure do. No one else will remember that though. They will act as if Dwight and Shaq never played against each other. I surely don’t remeber Shaq dominating those matchups the way some here say he would. I Dwight was a fake big man and Shaq was so much more dominant he surely would have destroyed Dwight when they matched up against each other. LOL
DACHEF
December 5th, 2012
4:59 pm
Yes why did Jenkins come back??? Better yet why did he back after only 2 games..hmmm Pehaps DFerry is trying to figure out just what kind of coach he has…He did draft JJ2 for the purpose of using his gifted talents but LDrew like Woody is reluctant to play rookies..thus, DFerry has to ask himself as he was also a shooter…Shooters Shoot, thats what JJ2 is a shooter…Hence, LDrew can no longer blow crap up DFerry nose as now he has seen for himself what this kid can do…Therefore, LDrew is now i believe is on notice as DFerry stated he wanted his talent developed by the coaches, well that cant happen if JJ2 is rarely on the floor during meaningful gametime…So JJ2 coming back so soon from dleague is more about LDrew and now being exposed. JJ2 displayed he is a shooter and can play defense….Eyes are upon you LDrew not only for what you do but what you don’t do..JJ2/ JT0=.ShootPlay.
Grandad
December 5th, 2012
5:01 pm
High-sider
” Look at how y’all are dissin’ Dwight Howard [sic].
He’s the best center in the league.”
Debatable ?
____________________________________________
To use your word *[dissed] … (I prefer criticized);
I have previously criticized:
* LBJ – Akron
* Josh – Akron
* Kobe – Italy
* Phil Jackson – Mars
* Joe Johnson – Little Rock
* LD – who knows / who cares
* Wdsn – Indiana
* espn – Bristol, Connecticut
* David Stern – Judah [just kidding]
* Chipper Jones – Jacksonville, Fl.
* John Smoltz – Mich
* Urban Meyer – Toledo
* Kevin Love – Oregon
* Brook Lopez – Cal
* Adam Morrison – Montana *(was ex-communicated for crying)
____________________________________________________
-equal opportunity-
I think I *[dissed] every culture `cept an Asian
____________________________________________________
Next time I`ll try to Critique Dirk so I can *[diss] a German !
Rod from College Park
December 5th, 2012
5:06 pm
Grandad,
Is Lebron on steroids too?
” Look at how y’all are dissin’ Dwight Howard [sic].
He’s the best center in the league.”
Debatable ?”
Please provide a debate for Dwight Howard not being the best center in the league for the last 5 years. I’m interested to hear your perspective.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
December 5th, 2012
5:07 pm
FOREVER I LOVE ATLANTA
1. Hawks
2. Braves
3. Falcons
Grandad
December 5th, 2012
5:12 pm
Post Script:
I did not Rip on any A-Rabs neither.
But, they ain`t many A-Rabs in the NBA.
Now Muslims are a different story;
Ol` Chris Jackson, AKA – Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf,
is a good friend of mine.
There is not a finer person in the world, that I know,
than M.A-R.
So, there you go.
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For those who have not realized my little bit of satire
as I was lampooning my friend H-S;
then shame on yawl !
CJ is really my friend – that part was real.
vava74
December 5th, 2012
5:24 pm
Grandad,
How’s he dealing with Tourette these days?
Must be funny when he takes off!!!
Mike
December 5th, 2012
5:24 pm
I think people hate on Larry Drew because he doesn’t exactly look the part, he looks like an old drunk lol. Bottom line the man can coach better than half the guys in the league. Woodson was supposed to be a defensive guru, but the Hawks were top 10 in defense last year without Al and tops this year so far. There are maybe 3 teams better than the Hawks in the East right now, not many thought they would make the playoffs when they traded Joe.
Grandad
December 5th, 2012
5:24 pm
R.f C.P.
LBJ – I have often wondered.
But then he competed in the Olympics ?
I did read an article about both + steroid connection;
probably two yrs ago.
I apologize, as I cannot site the article.
I`m not accusing either one, only musing ?
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Last five yrs Dwight = Best —> absolutely.
Currently, unless he does two things:
(1) regains 100% of his previous Health [back]
(2) changes his narcissistic attitude.
Otherwise he is Not the best, nor will he return to being the Best.
Now;
Rod, understand this is only one old man`s opinion.
I think Dwight puts up great stats;
but, neither am I convinced he is a winner !
Grandad
December 5th, 2012
5:27 pm
* cite the article
should have read * cite
the word cite was misspelled site
Not a typo … I`m a doophus
John Jenkins Called Up From D-League | HawksHoop
December 5th, 2012
5:34 pm
[...] According to Chris Vivlamore of the AJC, rookie John Jenkins has been called back to the Hawks’ roster after a two game stint with Atlanta’s D-League affiliate, the Bakersfield Jam. [...]
Astro Joe
December 5th, 2012
5:36 pm
So I have to believe that every Atlanta-born person is better than every non Atlanta-born person? Really? Ciara is better than Beyonce? Lou Williams is better than Manu Ginobli? B.o.B. is better than Rakim? Freddie Freeman is better than Albert Pujols? Gladys Knight is better than Aretha Franklin? Dwight Howard is better than Shaq? Goodie Mob is better than NWA? Monica is better than Alicia Keys? Josh Smith is better than Charles Barkley?
Astro Joe
December 5th, 2012
5:37 pm
Grandad, whose minutes would you cut to give Jenkins playing time? And how much time would you give him?
DACHEF
December 5th, 2012
5:41 pm
Hate is the feeling towards a person when he/she has done something bad to you! I only hate that hawks organization has not addressed the need for a coach that can win and develop champions. LDrew is trying to secure another contract and thus can’t balance between his and ours-the HAWKS.
Astro Joe
December 5th, 2012
5:42 pm
I guess according to the “be blindly loyal to Atlantans” pundits, Lou Williams is better than Jamal Crawford. Now that one, I can get behind.
Sautee
December 5th, 2012
5:46 pm
“Fans here don’t understand what it means to be a fan. People praising the Georgia Bulldogs for playing a good game last week. LOL. They lost.” – Rod
So now, being a “FAN” means you can’t praise effort in a defeat?
No thanks, Rod. You can keep that kind of fanhood. That’s restricting (and diminishing) your fanhood to wins and losses only.
There’s MUCH more to being a fan, IMHO.
Jae Evolution
December 5th, 2012
5:46 pm
“How soon we all forget. LOL. You do realize that what they did fouling him is called the Hack a Shaq right. Dwight is struggling at the line now. It is what it is. So did Shaq. Shaq was worse. Good coaches now how to adjust.”
I’m well aware of the tactic ‘Hack-a-Bad FT shooter’ the fact remains that he will never be a good FT shooter, ever. There is no adjustment either he makes his FT’s or your forced to get a stop almost everytime. You can’t bench your best rebounder, shot-blocker, and overall defensive presence not to mention Howard would have fits on the bench in crunchtime. Also in the final 2 minutes where they can’t hack him anymore, it’s not like you can go to the guy offensively, they’ll just foul him without facing the 2 shot + possession penalty. Lakers are in a tough position and with all that talent not clicking, tension is running high.
Mike
December 5th, 2012
5:54 pm
Fans in Atlanta are somewhat delusional, if the team doesn’t win a title every year then they suck. The word FAN is short for FANATIC, meaning you ride or die for your team til the end. Take the Kansas City Chiefs, they have been bad for a while yet they have the best fan support in the league. True FANS!!!
Sautee
December 5th, 2012
6:00 pm
Rod,
Let me put it another way:
You say you are a ‘Nique fan. In 1988 when he dropped 47 on the Celtics in Game 7 of the EC semis, did you praise HIS game, though the Hawks lost?
Grandad
December 5th, 2012
6:09 pm
Eric:
Basketball IQ, I`m willing to match wits any day anytime.
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R.f C.P.
Now one day you will get old too – I hope.
As for bein` fat & lazy, I`ve earned the right.
American by birth Southern by the Grace of God.
Born and raised in Ga.
Was matriculated in Austin Peay
and thus held prisoner in Tennuhsee fer a spell,
made my way back home and been here ever since !
I`m Georgian through and through.
I played baseball, football, softball [when I was older],
basketball, table tennis, golf, & fist-fightin` or rasslin` competively.
I was also an expert on horseback and other outdoor activities.
I can shoot straight and bait a hook.
*I almost forgot … shuttlec o c k i n` … r e; badminton.
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vava
mild case, t. s. never presented itself in my presence.
[note - t. s. ( is that ironic or what) ?]
He was still playing overseas last time we spoke.
40+ yrs of age.
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Grandad
December 5th, 2012
6:11 pm
fist-fightin` and / or rasslin`
Grandad
December 5th, 2012
6:15 pm
“Game of Inches” … Cliche but true
Ball got tipped – otherwise ?
Hell yeah I`m Proud 0` My Dawgs !
Slimjr
December 5th, 2012
6:17 pm
You ever wonder why Shaq holds a grudge against D12?
They played head to head ya know and guess what? Mr Diesel did not, repeat did not [Dominate] him..
In fact there may have been intimidation shifting the other way, visa-vi the [Flopping] defense to overcome or level the playing field? Yes…
His [Fan Club]= nice try…..zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Where’s that jealousy meter when ya need one? hahahahahahahaha
Grandad
December 5th, 2012
6:18 pm
A J
I know we are show-casing him; [DHarris]
-BUT-
Devin Harris is the 1st one I would take min from and give to the kid !
Slimjr
December 5th, 2012
6:21 pm
Danny should make a deal to trade for the #2 pick from the Timberwolves [Derrick Williams]…
Make it so Scottie.. Aye Captain!
Grandad
December 5th, 2012
6:21 pm
I like New Jersey Americans !
O'brien
December 5th, 2012
6:30 pm
D12 has his issues, but I would love to have him on the hawks team.
On a similar note, I think Josh is a much BetteR PF than Horford. But I can’t help but wonder which one would be the better fit alongside D12 (all things considered).
Astro Joe
December 5th, 2012
6:31 pm
Dominique is from North Carolina. I’m trying to understand the standard… maybe you either had to play for a pro sports team in Atlanta or have grown up in Atlanta? So, therefore, should we all uniformly say that Solomon Jones is better than Marcus Camby??? Varsity better than Fuddruckers?
Astro Joe
December 5th, 2012
6:33 pm
Grandada, like you said, we’re showcasing Devin. IMO, better to showcase Devin for 2-3 months than give token minutes to Jenkins. Again, the key being a very narrow window… up to the trade deadline.
Sautee
December 5th, 2012
6:35 pm
AJ,
For some of us ATL natives, the Varsity IS better than Fuddruckers. Gotta have my grease fix every now and then.
Fuddruckers has better milk shakes, though.
Josh Smith
December 5th, 2012
6:36 pm
People if it wasn’t for Drew, Teague wouldn’t be playing for the Hawks. It was Woody who gave up on him, Drew gave Jeff a shoot. His hands are tied in Jenkins situation, cause all the vets are playing ball. Morrow isn’t getting enough playing time, yet he’s shooting 50% from the 3 pt line.
Astro Joe
December 5th, 2012
6:37 pm
Maybe we’re supposed to want every Atlanta-born player to come home to the Hawks? Let’s trade Al Horford for JJ Hickson. Trade Jeff Teague for Javaris Crittenton’s draft rights (and empty revolver).
Astro Joe
December 5th, 2012
6:38 pm
Sautee, I knew that Varsity-Fuddruckers one would stir some passion. I hate The Varsity myself. But I admire their hustle (and adoring fan base).
Sautee
December 5th, 2012
6:44 pm
AJ,
Hate the V? Say it ain’t so!
LOL, my dad was friends with Frank Gordy, so we ate there a LOT when I was a kid. I guess I got hooked on the grease, and never quite gave it up, though once or twice a year now is more than plenty.
Slimjr
December 5th, 2012
6:44 pm
What da ya have?
Five years of D12 playing for the Hawks!
Sautee
December 5th, 2012
6:47 pm
Hell, slim, if we’re dreaming. might as well go for 8 years.
BravesFan79
December 5th, 2012
6:52 pm
Im from Atlanta and am diehard Hawks (was crushed when they traded Nique and became a Utah fan for years), Braves, Falcons and GT fan!
Personally id like to see the Hawks add Morrow to the starting lineup and play like Golden State played when they beat Dallas in the playoffs.
Rod from College Park
December 5th, 2012
6:57 pm
Losers mentalities. LOL. I’m a fan, but I’m not a dummy. Georgia gets no credit for losing from me. The Hawks get no credit for continuing to get put out in the first round from me. Falcons get no credit for wining in the regular season, and getting skunked in the playoffs from me. Guess it is just how you were raised. Most of you probably played in little league parks who gave trophies to everyone who played on the team. I did not. You only got a trophy if your team won.
Sautee
December 5th, 2012
6:59 pm
So Rod,
So when the rest of the country hailed ‘Nique’s 47 point game, you stayed mute because they lost?
Just wondering.
BravesFan79
December 5th, 2012
7:00 pm
Rod: you named 3 players whod id much rather have as our center than Dwight Howard. 7′4 Rick Smits was a beast on offense and defense, Patrick Ewing was also better than Dwight in both categories, and Sabonis had offense game that Howard could only dream of!
Face it, your man Dwight is overrated, cant hit free throws in the clutch (making him a liability at end of games), and worst of all…. a QUITTER! The way he quit on the magic last year was pathetic.
Grandad
December 5th, 2012
7:05 pm
Sautee
Last Friday nite, I ate 3 chili dawgs at the V.
I had forgotten, i no longer have a gallbladder !
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhh !
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
My youngest [smart aleck] son said:
” I thought you liked … Three Dog Night ”
Seriously – the little smart ___ said that.
BravesFan79
December 5th, 2012
7:07 pm
So who exactly are your favorite teams then Rod? Any looser that dosent know sht about sports can say there a Bulls fan one decade, then say there a Heat fan now…. is that you?
Grandad
December 5th, 2012
7:08 pm
He`s 25 – He`s old enough to be called a smart ___ .
Rod from College Park
December 5th, 2012
7:11 pm
“I’m trying to understand the standard…”
If you have a hard time understanding on a number of things, you might be the one with the problem. How about this one. Short bus Shawty.
Rod from College Park
December 5th, 2012
7:17 pm
So who exactly are your favorite teams then Rod? Any looser that dosent know sht about sports can say there a Bulls fan one decade, then say there a Heat fan now…. is that you?
Never that. I support all Atlanta teams. But having traveled a lot and seen the standard that winning organizations have and their fans, I won’t continue to support these losers. Obviously you are are Braves fan, Do you walk aroud talking about the 13 straight division titles like that is the greatest thing ever. Or are you upset that out of those 13 years, we only have 1 world series title and choked away the series with the Yankees and the Twins.